tesla autopilot has a looooong way to go - easy to get excited about this stuff but from a software developer, recognize the plethera of scenarios you have to multiply by the corner cases
@@imranq9241 yes that is what they are doing. for example the confirmation of green lights is specifically for their machine learning algorithms. However, machine learning cannot make self-driving possible with current technology, data and research. Therefore, there will always have to be some things that have to be coded by hand.
@@Shapex8 Elon said that AP ran into issues with the current implementation so they are rewriting it and calling it “4D”. He said it’ll be a quantum leap from current software.
In the future, all roads will have markings all over them to give information to the car. To tell it what's coming up, and so it knows better where the lanes are, etc.. This car is doing its best with current road markings
I agree with you that it works well. Traffic light are really impressive. For stop it is not yet good because it sees too many stop sign or lines (even on divided roads that are motorroad with a speed of 120 km/h ^^). At the moment, it sees the stop from a diagonal road and think it applies to the main highway too. But it will improve. :-)
I am als impressed with the newest updates. It works almost all the time good, but yesterday I got a frightening event. At a crosspoint with red lights, I had a green but a car before me was waiting to turn left and I couldn't pass him. Finally when the lights changed to orange the car before me could proceed, but meanwhile the lights turned red .... and frightening my car went (nearly) through the red light. Luckily I could stop manually, but still frightening, more so because on the screen there was definitely a red line when it went through.
I'm driving now for a week with 2020.36.10 and since 2 days with 2020.36.11. Truly amazed how well the traffic light recognition works. It seems to be a combination of map data and visual recognition, as my car prepared to slow down for a traffic light, behind a curve. Another thing I've tried is, if it's slows down for a traffic light, that is not on the map (like for road works) and yes, it does. Not that smooth, but very impressive how it's recognized. Even though it's not perfect yet, I'm deeply impressed how well it works.
Haha, I can imagine 😁 but I’ve been doing this for a very long time already and pretty much know exactly what to expect. You should see the sometimes hairy outtakes 😜
Seems autopilot features are still very good at driving in a straight line and reacting to the traffic around thr car. Everything else is still far off. When I can get into my car, type in an address and take a nap while the car drives me there that's the future. I think this would require cars being able to communicate with one another wirelessly as well as having all traffic lights and signs being connected or having some type of RFID that can communicate with vehicles.
Mooi om te zien hoe het zich gedraagt in BE, natuurlijk is ons chaotisch wegennet het issue maar om AutoPilot 3.0 nu al echt nuttig of "amazing" te noemen, nog niet. Bedankt voor deze review, subbed
Ik rij 99% op AP en vind dit een heel nuttige feature. Je moet uiteraard weten wat wel en niet werkt, maar het maakt rijden zoveel meer ontspannen. Hou er rekening mee dat wat ik hier test, effectief tegen de limieten van het systeem en de regelgeving loopt. Dat is dus niet wat je standaard elke dag zou gebruiken ;-). Op autostrades is het geweldig intussen, met hier en daar een paar bugjes.
That is because I'm testing specific point where I know the car struggles. In daily driving on the highway, it is already very good and makes the drive much more relaxed
I use 2020.36.10 (updated this morning to 11). Traffic lights en stop signs are fun. However .... many places where it picks up wrong speeds (speed signs on segways or mis interpreted signs) and no way to make it change its mind, sometimes for a long stretch. Only solution, take it out of AP until the speed is reasonable again. Also too many places that are recognized as traffic lights but are not (or are switched off most of the year), there you get unsolicited spooky braking. Apart from these issues, nice to make some steps forward this time. Thanks for the review.
The release notes clearly state that in this release the xar will stop for green light, blinking lights and light that are off as well. Remember, it is a very first iteration now.
Lol looks like you didnt see how bad some country roads are. We dont even have lanes on most of our roads. Infact some roads are not even asphalt but cobblestone. Oh also lets not forget that you might break your rims or get airtime if you are not careful
Try driving in French speaking part of Belgium where half of the lines on the roads are missing and where traffic signs are notoriously confusing. In my street in 100 yards the speed changes from 50 to 30 to 90 to 30 to 50!
Nice Test Steven. Looking forward to my retrofit to HW 3.0 😊 I’m still not happy, that it blinks just already begining the exit. Should work equal to line changes. 2s before the exit.
I don’t really understand the point of this. It can’t do anything reliably, so you have to nanny it constantly. So you may as well be in full control anyway! Surely all this does is risk making people try and rely on it more, when it’s not capable of doing anything unsupervised. Less functionality would be far safer than trying to deliver more functionality badly
Nobody is saying that it should be used unsupervised. Tesla is raking the approach of geadually improving the features, which creates opportunity for a whole fleet learning and sending feedback, resulting in a massive amount if training data. It is the only way to do this right
Yeah the point of this is that the algorithm is learning by all of the interactions from the user; e.g. stopping when the car thought it would be OK to go. Relevant material from the trips are send so Tesla so that they can inprove the algorithms more and more. This is also why you only see gradual improvements.
Steven Peeters I get that it needs testing. But I find it bizarre/fairly unsafe that they push software that’s this immature to customers. It would be like a normal manufacturer sending out engine management software that needs you to constantly clear faults whilst driving, else it might catch on fire. Or a brake by wire system that randomly stops working and requires the driver to use the hand brake. I’m also dubious what learning they can do with ADAS level 2 hardware that’s relevant to fully autonomous driving. Pretty much any current Merc or even Hyundai could be made to do all the things the current autopilot does, but the majority of manufacturers wouldn’t dare put software this sketchy into a car that a member of the public can buy. I’m not having a go at Tesla. I find it fairly refreshing that they take this attitude, but I’m just baffled that owners see this performance as good! If it was an Audi, the owners would be taking it back to the dealer and demanding their money back/taking Audi to court!
@@ArosaMike All of this is probably true. I think its a bit of the point of the view. Its more like an aid for drivers. Currently, even for the highway driving the driver is legally required to always watch out what the car is doing. Often people overlook this. Therefore, it's finally up to the users to decide on whether they want to use new features or not. I would provably not.
One thing I found in researching autopilot is that it reduces driving strain so you can drive longer distances without feeling fatigued . Even if it’s not full self driving there’s some benefit there.
If you are in Europe as me, the FSD is really limitated because the european restriction. From my point of view, I think that the restrictions are more dangerous that the fact restricted. It's a nonsense and also dangerous to limit the angle of turn in a curve.
Still missing the ability to read standing signs, unable to go through a roundabout without turning itself off, unable to recognize some stop lights, unable to sometimes read stop lights when not moving, unable to stay on the center of the lane under certain conditions such as direct sunlight or curved streets, unable to complete some difficult highway exits, and incomplete signage display visualization. Despite the above I agree that it has gotten better, but it does not seem ready for level 3 or level 4.
@@StevenPeeters well I'd say it should do what it can to keep active. And I think in most roundabouts g force at reasonable speeds (30k kph) shouldn't be too high.
EVPaddy that needs to be a big one already. Roundabouts in Belgium are small and maybe 20kph could be doable on those. But next to the dpeed and G force, it also is about the angle of the lines to follow when entering the roundabout
Mercedes truck have same feature to slow down to roundabout... And on bends wow... 😂 And can even stop if car in front of you and it starts to drive again then it clears 😉 doesn't see anything ground breaking for what kinda time of they spend.
Wouldn't it be cool if the cameras could get more info from it's surroundings through something like QR codes. If your car is nearing a roundabout it can lookup info about the lay-out of whats up ahead and tailor the ride more smoothly. Even the traffic lights should communicate wirelessly. Maybe more should be done about this in corporation with goverments.
Don't own a Tesla, but I had two things about traffic lights. Sometimes when I see that the traffic light is about to turn green, rather than going at 60km/h and stopping at the light, waiting 1~2 seconds to turn green, i reduce the speed to 40km/h~50km/h and by the time i reach the traffic light, it is green already. This is very useful on some straight main roads that have lights which are timed. If you maintain a specific speed, all lights will be green. The other thing, I did not understand from your video. If the traffic light is red, can you not overwrite the instruction to cross the traffic light? Normally when we are turning left (left lane drive), even if the traffic light is red, there is no oncoming traffic, we can turn left. The other situation is at night, if the traffic light is red, there is no traffic, we only slow down, but we don't stop at traffic lights for safety reasons. Would it be possible to test those in controlled situations, if at all possible? I understand each country is different. I presume there is a way to turn of the beeps, alarms and red things flashing on the screen? Everyone cuts into traffic here, keeping a safe distance is a myth, that would be constant noise in the car, especially in a city ride. Is there a feature for the car to slow down for a speed breaker/bump or it doesn't recognise those yet? Is there a hole avoidance feature if it detects a hole in the road up ahead? Great testing, thank you for making such videos, it helps others understand in other parts of the world how well it does.
That "right on red" in the US or "left on red" in your case is something that is legally not allowed in Belgium (or most if not all of Europe for that matter). The car does not yet recognise speed bumps. Same with potholes. Elon has mentioned them several times, but no detection active yet. We are only scratching the surface of city driving on AP at the moment. Still a long way to go. Maybe a lot is already running in shadow mode. I know for sure it can determine between dry and wet road surface and puddles on the roads. Potholes could be coming soon...
@@StevenPeeters thank you, that is exciting indeed. The great thing about Tesla is that most of these features will be updated as a software and would not require any new hardware. With time new features will keep on getting added and fine tuned. I live in Pakistan, I know for a fact that autopilot will only work on the motorway, no chance in the city at all :D. They will require self learning routine to run that will constantly gather data on everything, send it back and have it analysed to be able to make headway. I always imagined, if you take a specific route to work/shop, there are certain bad patches in the different lanes, the car will avoid or slow down based on that. Just like how google has a google timeline, it keeps tab of places you go to, so gives you a traffic update based on the behaviour. Fun things we can look forward to in the future indeed. Out of curiosity, how well do the cameras recognise a bicycle that is at a complete stop, or when people are just slow pedaling to keep balance at a stop sign/traffic light without putting any foot down? There was fun video back in the day about the google car going crazy over a bicycle rider like that.
@@asderven There used to be a feature where the car slowed down to a certain speed in a bend, for example, because a lot of Tesla drivers would slow down there. That is the fleet learning principle. I don't know with the current AI approach if that is still the case... The car is really good at recognising bicycles and pedestrians now and stays behind them at the appropriate speed. Next step is overtaking them safely on local roads. THAT will be a huge challenge as they can behave unpredictably
@@StevenPeeters "THAT will be a huge challenge as they can behave unpredictably" That made me laugh out loud. I was thinking, how would Tesla safely over take cows, camels and sheep on the road :D. Thank you for sharing your insights, I appreciate it. Inshallah in a few years (2~10) I'll see if it is viable to import the Tesla to Pakistan and see how well it runs here. Right now the government is being a typical government. They passed a policy to remove import duty on electrical vehicles to encourage the trend. When you go to register the car, since the registration is based on oil/diesel engines working in cc. They believe all electric vehicles are 3,500 cc engine cars equivalent or more, and the yearly car tax should be about 8,000 to 12,000 dollars. Other places around the world have other kinks to remove before EV become viable there even for early adopters.
Please speak more of what you are doing to the car for example grabbing the wheel, touching break, touching gas, not touching the wheel, not touching the brake, not touching the gas... Thank you for the video 🙂
What you see in the test is almost all on AutoPilot, os the car is doing all the braking and steering. If I need to take over, you'll know in the video :-D
I really dont see how you can call this update amazing just yet? It almost crashed out of the roundabout, It almost killed a man walking up to his car on the side of the road and It almost killed you running straight into oncomming traffic. i get that its great, but what you just documented here was sketchy AF!
Yes, that's the while point of testing it: finding the edge of what works. It's a fra cry from FSD, but slowly we are getting there. When you compare to my earlier videos, you will see progress. I could also drive on the highway for 15 minutes, where the car does all the driving and doesn't show any sign of what is or is not possible. That would theoretically seem amazing and FSD-like. But it would be boring and nobody would learn from it. I try to make a point by showing what is and especially what is not possible
Looks to me like it is speeding. Blazing past the person at 5:10 with >60km/h, and not giving any safety distance. Quickly closing up to the cars in front who seem to drive regular 50km/h and lower. It definitely doesn’t adapt to the situation, and is not taking its own in capabilities into account. It actually gives me fear to encounter a Teslas as a cyclist or pedestrian, immature technology.
Exactly, the whole thing would be hilarious if not so dangerous. Please guys, stick to Autobahns and similar motorways and don't use AP in secondary roads, cities, etc. , don't put yourselves and others at risk.
Niet wachten tot je zelf gecontacteerd wordt. En anderzijds nemen ze HW2.0 met MCU2 upgrade combinatie eerst nu. Dus misschien heb je HW2.5 reeds? Of een Model 3? Die komen ook pas in december aan bod, naar het schijnt.
Why not? This is a test of the existing driver aids. I could do the same with any car that has ADAS, but that would be very boring as that system never gets updated on the same car
So now the difference between HW 2.5 and 3.0 makes a difference in the functionality in europe. I recieved 2020.36.11 at the beginning of the week and the only new function was that you can tap the actual speed on the speedometer to make it autopilot max speed. No traffic lights, no speed sign or arrows on the road recognition nor garbage cans (M3 LR DL FSD HW 2.5). So please, Tesla start to swap Hardware in our cars.
@@KoenvanderKouwe then i guess your car has HW3.0. Those settings are not available in my car and the functionalities also werent mentioned in the release notes.
Well done. Interesting that Midnight S≡R≡NITY does all that on 2020.36.10 already so not sure what more I’d get with .11 and whether it may just be skipped for me. Did you pass .10 and get straight to .10? Also amazed by the beginning at least of roundabout handling.. To your point the biggest hassle remains some S or even sharper curves yet that is regulation- not software-limited, right? Groetjes, Mike
Yes, I went straight from 2020.36.3.1 to 2020.36.11. S-curve is limited on the one hand by regulations. But slowing down before the curve is a solution that would work and has worked in the past updates. As long as the regulations do not change, that is the only way to get though there safely
Steven Peeters totaal met je eens. Boeiend het progress te zien en te beleven nochtans! Leuk dat je de Plaid al besteld hebt!! 😊 Voor mij, nadat mijn leasing contract voor Midnight S≡R≡NITY eind 2023 eindigt, blijft alles nog open. Denk niet dat ik zoveel geld wil uitgeven... 2 keer de prijs can een tri-motor Cybertruck!! 😅 Het meest waarschijnlijk en logisch zou dan zijn een (hopelijk 400 Miles/650+ km?) Y LR voor mijn ouwe (oudere?) jaren... 😁
Just after the hill crest (early in the video) is solved by software update as ma M3 AP2,5 is no more diverting left or right with with dotted lines (or just a little)
No change there and I don't expect anymore changes before the rewrite. Elon admitted that the problem lies in the overlap of the cameras and the fact that it doesn't map it correctly. The rewrite will fix all of that he said. So looking forward to that...
@@StevenPeeters yeah. I'm pretty impressed that they want to do internal beta testing in a month. I expected like 6 month to a year to relabel everything and retrain. But I suppose you could ask the cars in the fleet for new video clips where the old system is highly confident about stuff, since most of the time it's working correctly and smooth out the errors by running a 3D scene algorithm on it afterwards. Maybe that's why we saw so much traffic from the cars over night in the last weeks.
Man I really like your videos. I took my M3 (2020.36.10) for a spin on some really challenging roads and it struggled with complex road layouts especially when there’s a lot of traffic. Works better with less cars around me. Do you have the same experience?
@@StevenPeeters I was involved in an autopilot project some years ago in an international car parts supplier, ( so I have more or less some background knowledge on how it is working) and I am really amazed about the data processing & data fusion along with the short latency of taking decisions. the HW architecture including the SOC used here is for sure very unique. This is not some classic algorithm playing in background, it looks like real neural networkings in the game..
wajdi slama interesting. And yes.l, these are neural nets for a big part and hardcoded stuff as well. The latter is constantly shrinking in favour of more decidions being taken by the neural nets. In HW3.0 there are 2 custom Tesla chips specifically designed for neural nets. They process different parts but havevenough overlap to be a refundant system at the same time
@@StevenPeeters it is a collaboration project with a well known German EOM. I was involved in different topics from HW bring-up, power management, memory test/protection, and supervision concepts of the system execution ( system error handling, reaction and recovery strategies from error states). basically involved in all safety features ( ASIL-B & D levels) from system requirement to concept design, HSI, and execution and testing ( the whole V model approach)... So I was not involved directly in the "autopilot feature" but I had the chance to get a look what is going-on on the other cores during sync-up meetings with teams and deps. In the past I did also a little bit of data fusion ( based on radar & stereo camera) for an augmented reality head up display project. My thesis is based on pedestrian detection and recognition using high freq radars, so the latter project was the door to get into this world.
I wish I didn't splurge for FSD as the city AP is FAR too unreliable, as you can see in this video. It's nothing more than an expensive gimmick at the moment. Tesla really needs to fix the autopilot phantom braking problem before they roll out any more "features".
Eh, it’s cheaper to pay for it when you order the vehicle than adding it later on. Would you rather pay less and continue to see improvements or pay more later?
No, nobody has that rewrite already. That stiil needs to go into private beta. Depending on how many issues arise, a few weeks to a few months later that will go into public beta and several weeks later to the general public. I'm expecting this to hit my car somewhere in Q1 2021. Hopefully sooner, but that is my expectation...
Tesla has currently 2 levels of AutoPilot: you have the regular AP, which does lane keeping and such, but the real dynamic features are in the (expensive) FSD option package. But once you have bought this, aal subsequent updates are free of charge. And the best thing is they come over the air. So no need to drive to any dealer to get an upgrade (as other brands need to do). The car just updates while it sits in the driveway or at work, for example.
The weirdest thing in the video was seeing a Dodge Ram in Belgium (@3:13) Whoever is driving that is rather brave or paying super close attention, given the width of roads in Europe. It barely fits in standard lanes.
It is a rare sight, but not that uncommon. We have some big pickups driving around here as well. And each and every time I see them, I ask myself "but why?"...
trying to watch a person doing his job and correcting his errors is much harder than doing that thing yourself. that includes correcting a robot's errors. those roads and infrastructure are made for humans, not automatic drivers. for achieving zero probability of accidents a special railway system that enables overtaking and radio frequency signalling like ils (instrument landing system) are required. then people can freely sleep while they are on the road.
as you state this version is 3.0, the latest release is 7.0, the dangerous performance issues demonstrated here have long been weeded out. are you trying to mislead?
AP is divided into hardware: AP1, AP2.0, AP2.5 and AP3.0 (or HW3.0). The actual version is slso mentioned and is 2020.36.11 Not sure where you get the 7 from..,
Title says AP3.0 😉, which is HW3. And yes, I do have FSD. But in Europe that means hardly anything. We only get traffic light and stop sign recognition on top of EAP due to stupid UNECE regulations 😢
@@JuancarlosHernandez-tf1by If you don't have FSD they won't upgrade your AP computer and you won't experience anything different in that sense. You just get a decent working MCU again and some better displays. Here are my first impressions after upgrading: ua-cam.com/video/FqaSJqUZeb4/v-deo.html
It's not too bad though. What you see here is a specific test of what I know is difficult for the system at the moment. It is not a clear representation of what everyday driving looks like. But it does still need clearly marked lanes, so city centers are still a no-no.
A lot of the features are in the FSD package with a new car. If you have EAP (Enhanced AutoPilot) on older cars then you have most of the functionality as well, but from this point on there will be a difference as newer features (such as the upcoming 360° parking view) will be FSD only probably.
@@StevenPeeters Thanks for the reply and for your wonderful video. It was really interesting to see what the autopilot actually is and what you can expect. I also like that Tesla seems to continuously improve it. However, to a certain extent, I can now understand why some countries do not allow Tesla to advertise the autopilot feature as "autopilot".
Part of that is due to the regulatory restrictions that make AP a lot less safe than it actually is: ua-cam.com/video/SxwrD0MMZxE/v-deo.html But another part is also the fact that in Europe, each country has its own rules, signs, lane markings etc. AND we have much narrower roads, which are less forgiving than the wide US lanes. And of course, Tesla has the most data from the US and will focus on getting that right first before Europe or any other region will be on the same level
It’s the software version number of the build that id being installed. 2020 is the year, 36 is the week number. The rest is build number. Usually, the week number is a few weeks behind on the current week number because of the fact that it is tested internally and then by the beta testers before it goes out to the general public. It’s the same system as with the software on your computer or phone
If this tesla can do an efficiently do autopilot in India. It's a pass for anywhere else in the world 👍
Pakistan is the new India
That will need real AI 😂
@@dru4670 just add "aggressive horn" option, and you're good..
I believe there is another company that actually using a different Lidar technology and works in India very well
Can't people there just learn how to drive...?
Don't own a Tesla... but watch these anyway haha...
That’s how it starts my friend
I dont own a falcon 9.....but watch those anyway.
You don't have a Tesla...yet!
@@wolfe1970 That’s how it starts my friend
Buy Tesla stock if you can't afford the car.. Yet
4:36 who else’s heart dropped right here
GAS GAS GAS
I thought he was a goner
7:10 the cars overtaking are actually finally smooth and not jumping around
Yes, everything is just so much smoother with HW3. Except for trucks, but that's another problem I mentioned in the video
tesla autopilot has a looooong way to go - easy to get excited about this stuff but from a software developer, recognize the plethera of scenarios you have to multiply by the corner cases
Wouldn’t a machine learning approach “soften” those edges?
@@imranq9241 yes that is what they are doing. for example the confirmation of green lights is specifically for their machine learning algorithms. However, machine learning cannot make self-driving possible with current technology, data and research. Therefore, there will always have to be some things that have to be coded by hand.
This isn't even the 3D rewrite that Elon is testing at the moment. That'll be crazy.
What do you mean?
@@Shapex8 Elon said that AP ran into issues with the current implementation so they are rewriting it and calling it “4D”. He said it’ll be a quantum leap from current software.
@@vivekparmar7576 And of course, Elon is not known for hyperbole and overhyping.
You're driving in Belgium of all places, which has the worst roads ever. Your Tesla deserves a medal for making sense of any of that crap. LOL
You have a point 😂
These are great roads. If you want bad roads, come to India.
@@StevenPeeters ^
Have you seen ukrainian roads?
The roads in this video look well paved and maintained, with clear markings. Not sure what you're on about.
I am still on 2020.36.10 I had a long drive yesterday on mainly secondary routes, and also found a big difference.
Good to see some more significant improvements. It has been a while.
The thing can navigate the crappy roads of belgium, auto-driving this in the netherlands must be heaven on wheels
I was trying g hard to figure out what EU country you were in and then you started driving by my house, so funny 🤣🤣🤣
I was trying to figure out where I heard his voice before, but it turns out he’s actually my cousin !
@@apeman1731 if you are really an apeman i guess we are all family here then :p
Brian Walter 🤣🤣
Belgium!
Based on the bad road condition we can see that the country is obv Belgium
I didn't notice that much improvement at all.
In the future, all roads will have markings all over them to give information to the car. To tell it what's coming up, and so it knows better where the lanes are, etc..
This car is doing its best with current road markings
I agree that road infrastructure needs some changes as well to allow FSD cars.
Key word future
Thanks for the video. I appreciate the good and bad. Overall It just keeps improving. This is out in the real world and not geofenced.
I agree with you that it works well. Traffic light are really impressive. For stop it is not yet good because it sees too many stop sign or lines (even on divided roads that are motorroad with a speed of 120 km/h ^^). At the moment, it sees the stop from a diagonal road and think it applies to the main highway too. But it will improve. :-)
I am als impressed with the newest updates. It works almost all the time good, but yesterday I got a frightening event. At a crosspoint with red lights, I had a green but a car before me was waiting to turn left and I couldn't pass him. Finally when the lights changed to orange the car before me could proceed, but meanwhile the lights turned red .... and frightening my car went (nearly) through the red light. Luckily I could stop manually, but still frightening, more so because on the screen there was definitely a red line when it went through.
Can't beat good old driving...
Watching tesla autopilot working in Belgium is amazing, can't wait to have my own.
I'm driving now for a week with 2020.36.10 and since 2 days with 2020.36.11. Truly amazed how well the traffic light recognition works. It seems to be a combination of map data and visual recognition, as my car prepared to slow down for a traffic light, behind a curve. Another thing I've tried is, if it's slows down for a traffic light, that is not on the map (like for road works) and yes, it does. Not that smooth, but very impressive how it's recognized.
Even though it's not perfect yet, I'm deeply impressed how well it works.
Love your commentary style. And your bravery!! I was concerned for you! 😇
Haha, I can imagine 😁 but I’ve been doing this for a very long time already and pretty much know exactly what to expect. You should see the sometimes hairy outtakes 😜
Tesla just now learned how to stop at red lights??
No, about 6 or so months ago. But the testing phase is long, better safe than sorry.
It's still in beta
@@sinki19841984 It's in perpetual beta and always will be.
It stops and will go if the car in front of you goes on green (so long as it’s not a turn only lane)
Seems autopilot features are still very good at driving in a straight line and reacting to the traffic around thr car. Everything else is still far off. When I can get into my car, type in an address and take a nap while the car drives me there that's the future. I think this would require cars being able to communicate with one another wirelessly as well as having all traffic lights and signs being connected or having some type of RFID that can communicate with vehicles.
That is at least 5 and probably 10 years away. Especially considering the fact that legislation will have to be changed drastically too
Thought I recognized those roads! Antwerpenaar living in the US here!
Tesla is amazing! And its a leader on electric cars
Mooi om te zien hoe het zich gedraagt in BE, natuurlijk is ons chaotisch wegennet het issue maar om AutoPilot 3.0 nu al echt nuttig of "amazing" te noemen, nog niet.
Bedankt voor deze review, subbed
Ik rij 99% op AP en vind dit een heel nuttige feature. Je moet uiteraard weten wat wel en niet werkt, maar het maakt rijden zoveel meer ontspannen. Hou er rekening mee dat wat ik hier test, effectief tegen de limieten van het systeem en de regelgeving loopt. Dat is dus niet wat je standaard elke dag zou gebruiken ;-). Op autostrades is het geweldig intussen, met hier en daar een paar bugjes.
A 70 km/h limit in town? Is that right? That would be crazy.
These are the main roads crossing through town, yes. Town and city centers are 50kph or sometimes even 30kph.
Tesla is doing an amazing job
Looks like it has a long way to go. Maybe in 20 years.
It has a long way to go, but definitely not 20 years. I suspect between 5 and 10 max
TBH that’s a bit nerve wrecking.
That is because I'm testing specific point where I know the car struggles. In daily driving on the highway, it is already very good and makes the drive much more relaxed
I use 2020.36.10 (updated this morning to 11). Traffic lights en stop signs are fun. However .... many places where it picks up wrong speeds (speed signs on segways or mis interpreted signs) and no way to make it change its mind, sometimes for a long stretch. Only solution, take it out of AP until the speed is reasonable again. Also too many places that are recognized as traffic lights but are not (or are switched off most of the year), there you get unsolicited spooky braking. Apart from these issues, nice to make some steps forward this time. Thanks for the review.
The release notes clearly state that in this release the xar will stop for green light, blinking lights and light that are off as well. Remember, it is a very first iteration now.
Took me a while to notice you're Belgian! Very interesting to find someone doing autopilot tests in my country.
I’ll take that as a compliment 😁
@@StevenPeeters it is hahah
Well good thing is, if this car can drive in Belgium, it can drive anywhere else.
Lol, nice try :)
Indian streets awaits you 😂
Lol looks like you didnt see how bad some country roads are. We dont even have lanes on most of our roads. Infact some roads are not even asphalt but cobblestone. Oh also lets not forget that you might break your rims or get airtime if you are not careful
@@berkk29 I was joking. I live in The Netherlands and we always make jokes about the roads in Belgium.
@@yorinvonder8879 oh ok my bad :D
I live in Belgium as well, read Sint-Niklaas on a sign.
Try driving in French speaking part of Belgium where half of the lines on the roads are missing and where traffic signs are notoriously confusing. In my street in 100 yards the speed changes from 50 to 30 to 90 to 30 to 50!
Nice Test Steven. Looking forward to my retrofit to HW 3.0 😊
I’m still not happy, that it blinks just already begining the exit. Should work equal to line changes. 2s before the exit.
I don’t really understand the point of this. It can’t do anything reliably, so you have to nanny it constantly. So you may as well be in full control anyway! Surely all this does is risk making people try and rely on it more, when it’s not capable of doing anything unsupervised. Less functionality would be far safer than trying to deliver more functionality badly
Nobody is saying that it should be used unsupervised. Tesla is raking the approach of geadually improving the features, which creates opportunity for a whole fleet learning and sending feedback, resulting in a massive amount if training data. It is the only way to do this right
Yeah the point of this is that the algorithm is learning by all of the interactions from the user; e.g. stopping when the car thought it would be OK to go. Relevant material from the trips are send so Tesla so that they can inprove the algorithms more and more. This is also why you only see gradual improvements.
Steven Peeters I get that it needs testing. But I find it bizarre/fairly unsafe that they push software that’s this immature to customers. It would be like a normal manufacturer sending out engine management software that needs you to constantly clear faults whilst driving, else it might catch on fire. Or a brake by wire system that randomly stops working and requires the driver to use the hand brake.
I’m also dubious what learning they can do with ADAS level 2 hardware that’s relevant to fully autonomous driving. Pretty much any current Merc or even Hyundai could be made to do all the things the current autopilot does, but the majority of manufacturers wouldn’t dare put software this sketchy into a car that a member of the public can buy. I’m not having a go at Tesla. I find it fairly refreshing that they take this attitude, but I’m just baffled that owners see this performance as good! If it was an Audi, the owners would be taking it back to the dealer and demanding their money back/taking Audi to court!
@@ArosaMike All of this is probably true. I think its a bit of the point of the view. Its more like an aid for drivers. Currently, even for the highway driving the driver is legally required to always watch out what the car is doing. Often people overlook this. Therefore, it's finally up to the users to decide on whether they want to use new features or not. I would provably not.
One thing I found in researching autopilot is that it reduces driving strain so you can drive longer distances without feeling fatigued . Even if it’s not full self driving there’s some benefit there.
If you are in Europe as me, the FSD is really limitated because the european restriction. From my point of view, I think that the restrictions are more dangerous that the fact restricted. It's a nonsense and also dangerous to limit the angle of turn in a curve.
I know. I'm the one following all the regulations really closely ;-). ua-cam.com/video/SxwrD0MMZxE/v-deo.html
Please show in the lower corner a driving comparison of the previous version of autopilot with the current one.
My turn to be jealous of you, still on 36.10 here. Stop light control is great for sure. A good sign of things to come. " V shape" = "Chevron".
I skipped from 36.3 to 36.11. I guess you got the update sooner and now they are skipping 36.10 for those that haven't got it yet
@@StevenPeeters Yes, they do a lot of "leap-frogging", Which makes sense. I may get .12 in the next few days.
Same here. I went straight to .10 and now have to wait a wile for the next update
Those are some good-looking roads :o
Thanks for the update, enjoy the new version ✌️
Im glad you guys are doing all this, I'll stick to driving my bmw until this actually works properly.
I have hw3.0 and 2020.36.11 but I haven’t seen traffic lights yet. Is this model S only or is it not available in the Netherlands yet?
You have to enable it in the settings and may need a navigation database download first (that will come automatically if you haven't got it already)
Steven Peeters ah cool, thanks for the info. I guess I never saw the release notes because they installed the new firmware at the service center.
Still missing the ability to read standing signs, unable to go through a roundabout without turning itself off, unable to recognize some stop lights, unable to sometimes read stop lights when not moving, unable to stay on the center of the lane under certain conditions such as direct sunlight or curved streets, unable to complete some difficult highway exits, and incomplete signage display visualization.
Despite the above I agree that it has gotten better, but it does not seem ready for level 3 or level 4.
Correct. Still a few years away. Very small improvements.
Maybe roundabouts have too strong lateral G's for the regulators to allow that...
Interesting point
@@StevenPeeters depends on the speed, doesn't it…
EVPaddy well yes, but it shoild slso not hinder traffic. So, crawling around it at 2kph is not an option either 🤪
@@StevenPeeters well I'd say it should do what it can to keep active. And I think in most roundabouts g force at reasonable speeds (30k kph) shouldn't be too high.
EVPaddy that needs to be a big one already. Roundabouts in Belgium are small and maybe 20kph could be doable on those.
But next to the dpeed and G force, it also is about the angle of the lines to follow when entering the roundabout
I always enjoy seeing all the Elon fan-boys/Musketeers under these video’s
Wow, I didn't know I could try roundabouts as well now! Thanks for the hint, I really had no idea! Was always too scared to try it, haha.
A Dodge Ram truck in Belgium. Interesting!
Good points. Thanks
Mercedes truck have same feature to slow down to roundabout... And on bends wow... 😂 And can even stop if car in front of you and it starts to drive again then it clears 😉 doesn't see anything ground breaking for what kinda time of they spend.
4:54 it does not pickup on the object in the middle between the lanes. This is a clear example on why full automation is so difficult to achieve.
Does it not pick it up or does it just not display it. We have no way if knowing what the car actually sees, only the things that are being displayed
Wouldn't it be cool if the cameras could get more info from it's surroundings through something like QR codes. If your car is nearing a roundabout it can lookup info about the lay-out of whats up ahead and tailor the ride more smoothly. Even the traffic lights should communicate wirelessly. Maybe more should be done about this in corporation with goverments.
I agree that for FSD on all roads the infrastructure will have to change as well
Don't own a Tesla, but I had two things about traffic lights. Sometimes when I see that the traffic light is about to turn green, rather than going at 60km/h and stopping at the light, waiting 1~2 seconds to turn green, i reduce the speed to 40km/h~50km/h and by the time i reach the traffic light, it is green already. This is very useful on some straight main roads that have lights which are timed. If you maintain a specific speed, all lights will be green.
The other thing, I did not understand from your video. If the traffic light is red, can you not overwrite the instruction to cross the traffic light? Normally when we are turning left (left lane drive), even if the traffic light is red, there is no oncoming traffic, we can turn left. The other situation is at night, if the traffic light is red, there is no traffic, we only slow down, but we don't stop at traffic lights for safety reasons. Would it be possible to test those in controlled situations, if at all possible? I understand each country is different.
I presume there is a way to turn of the beeps, alarms and red things flashing on the screen? Everyone cuts into traffic here, keeping a safe distance is a myth, that would be constant noise in the car, especially in a city ride.
Is there a feature for the car to slow down for a speed breaker/bump or it doesn't recognise those yet? Is there a hole avoidance feature if it detects a hole in the road up ahead?
Great testing, thank you for making such videos, it helps others understand in other parts of the world how well it does.
That "right on red" in the US or "left on red" in your case is something that is legally not allowed in Belgium (or most if not all of Europe for that matter).
The car does not yet recognise speed bumps. Same with potholes. Elon has mentioned them several times, but no detection active yet. We are only scratching the surface of city driving on AP at the moment. Still a long way to go.
Maybe a lot is already running in shadow mode. I know for sure it can determine between dry and wet road surface and puddles on the roads. Potholes could be coming soon...
@@StevenPeeters thank you, that is exciting indeed. The great thing about Tesla is that most of these features will be updated as a software and would not require any new hardware. With time new features will keep on getting added and fine tuned. I live in Pakistan, I know for a fact that autopilot will only work on the motorway, no chance in the city at all :D. They will require self learning routine to run that will constantly gather data on everything, send it back and have it analysed to be able to make headway.
I always imagined, if you take a specific route to work/shop, there are certain bad patches in the different lanes, the car will avoid or slow down based on that. Just like how google has a google timeline, it keeps tab of places you go to, so gives you a traffic update based on the behaviour. Fun things we can look forward to in the future indeed.
Out of curiosity, how well do the cameras recognise a bicycle that is at a complete stop, or when people are just slow pedaling to keep balance at a stop sign/traffic light without putting any foot down? There was fun video back in the day about the google car going crazy over a bicycle rider like that.
@@asderven There used to be a feature where the car slowed down to a certain speed in a bend, for example, because a lot of Tesla drivers would slow down there. That is the fleet learning principle. I don't know with the current AI approach if that is still the case...
The car is really good at recognising bicycles and pedestrians now and stays behind them at the appropriate speed. Next step is overtaking them safely on local roads. THAT will be a huge challenge as they can behave unpredictably
@@StevenPeeters "THAT will be a huge challenge as they can behave unpredictably" That made me laugh out loud. I was thinking, how would Tesla safely over take cows, camels and sheep on the road :D. Thank you for sharing your insights, I appreciate it. Inshallah in a few years (2~10) I'll see if it is viable to import the Tesla to Pakistan and see how well it runs here.
Right now the government is being a typical government. They passed a policy to remove import duty on electrical vehicles to encourage the trend. When you go to register the car, since the registration is based on oil/diesel engines working in cc. They believe all electric vehicles are 3,500 cc engine cars equivalent or more, and the yearly car tax should be about 8,000 to 12,000 dollars. Other places around the world have other kinks to remove before EV become viable there even for early adopters.
I love Tesla ♥️
Looks great, one of the best updates to date. Maybe we will get a update on regulation 79 from you soon?
Absolutely. UNECE workshop is this week. Will report on it as soon as I have reliable information
Please speak more of what you are doing to the car for example grabbing the wheel, touching break, touching gas, not touching the wheel, not touching the brake, not touching the gas... Thank you for the video 🙂
What you see in the test is almost all on AutoPilot, os the car is doing all the braking and steering. If I need to take over, you'll know in the video :-D
its meant to take some of the driving from the driver so that means you still need to pay attention
Exactly
A dream that will never come through
Autopilot seems to be pretty good for highway but still has long way to go in urban roads.
Hey dat is in lokeren dedju leuk te zien dat het toch populair is, ik zal eens tuuten als ik u passeer :D
I really dont see how you can call this update amazing just yet? It almost crashed out of the roundabout, It almost killed a man walking up to his car on the side of the road and It almost killed you running straight into oncomming traffic. i get that its great, but what you just documented here was sketchy AF!
1:46 5:04 5:10
Yes, that's the while point of testing it: finding the edge of what works. It's a fra cry from FSD, but slowly we are getting there. When you compare to my earlier videos, you will see progress. I could also drive on the highway for 15 minutes, where the car does all the driving and doesn't show any sign of what is or is not possible. That would theoretically seem amazing and FSD-like. But it would be boring and nobody would learn from it. I try to make a point by showing what is and especially what is not possible
I think this is amazing because there is no other production car in the world this advanced.
Looks to me like it is speeding. Blazing past the person at 5:10 with >60km/h, and not giving any safety distance. Quickly closing up to the cars in front who seem to drive regular 50km/h and lower. It definitely doesn’t adapt to the situation, and is not taking its own in capabilities into account. It actually gives me fear to encounter a Teslas as a cyclist or pedestrian, immature technology.
Exactly, the whole thing would be hilarious if not so dangerous.
Please guys, stick to Autobahns and similar motorways and don't use AP in secondary roads, cities, etc. , don't put yourselves and others at risk.
Interesting to hear about all the software versions I have missed... After 2020.36.10 my car jumped directly to 2020.40.3
So you didn’t really miss one...
Hoe hebt jij de nieuwe hardware gekregen? Mij negeren ze 😭 top video en acties tov gov!
Niet wachten tot je zelf gecontacteerd wordt. En anderzijds nemen ze HW2.0 met MCU2 upgrade combinatie eerst nu. Dus misschien heb je HW2.5 reeds? Of een Model 3? Die komen ook pas in december aan bod, naar het schijnt.
Need another 5 years of development. Then it will be 100% ready.
I would say nearer 10 years, but you can definitely see improvements in the system.
Thanks for testing that early beta, but why are you allowed to do that on a public road? It doesn’t seem right that this car has a street license.
Why not? This is a test of the existing driver aids. I could do the same with any car that has ADAS, but that would be very boring as that system never gets updated on the same car
So now the difference between HW 2.5 and 3.0 makes a difference in the functionality in europe. I recieved 2020.36.11 at the beginning of the week and the only new function was that you can tap the actual speed on the speedometer to make it autopilot max speed. No traffic lights, no speed sign or arrows on the road recognition nor garbage cans (M3 LR DL FSD HW 2.5). So please, Tesla start to swap Hardware in our cars.
Do you have the setting for those extra visualizations turn on? Becouse I do see them and I don’t have the fsd package.
@@KoenvanderKouwe then i guess your car has HW3.0. Those settings are not available in my car and the functionalities also werent mentioned in the release notes.
@@harrywind1870 yes just checked I do have the 3.0. Hope they swap yours soon!
Well done. Interesting that Midnight S≡R≡NITY does all that on 2020.36.10 already so not sure what more I’d get with .11 and whether it may just be skipped for me. Did you pass .10 and get straight to .10? Also amazed by the beginning at least of roundabout handling.. To your point the biggest hassle remains some S or even sharper curves yet that is regulation- not software-limited, right? Groetjes, Mike
Yes, I went straight from 2020.36.3.1 to 2020.36.11. S-curve is limited on the one hand by regulations. But slowing down before the curve is a solution that would work and has worked in the past updates. As long as the regulations do not change, that is the only way to get though there safely
Steven Peeters totaal met je eens. Boeiend het progress te zien en te beleven nochtans! Leuk dat je de Plaid al besteld hebt!! 😊 Voor mij, nadat mijn leasing contract voor Midnight S≡R≡NITY eind 2023 eindigt, blijft alles nog open. Denk niet dat ik zoveel geld wil uitgeven... 2 keer de prijs can een tri-motor Cybertruck!! 😅 Het meest waarschijnlijk en logisch zou dan zijn een (hopelijk 400 Miles/650+ km?) Y LR voor mijn ouwe (oudere?) jaren... 😁
Just after the hill crest (early in the video) is solved by software update as ma M3 AP2,5 is no more diverting left or right with with dotted lines (or just a little)
Although it is still not keeping its right after a highway exit when the exit itself is splitting without initial center dotted line
8:07 I think you caused that to happen dude. You turned the wheel to quickely and made it malfunction.
No. At that point the car was still completely in control. I only took over a few seconds after the beeping
No jumping truck test? 🤔
No change there and I don't expect anymore changes before the rewrite. Elon admitted that the problem lies in the overlap of the cameras and the fact that it doesn't map it correctly. The rewrite will fix all of that he said. So looking forward to that...
@@StevenPeeters yeah. I'm pretty impressed that they want to do internal beta testing in a month. I expected like 6 month to a year to relabel everything and retrain.
But I suppose you could ask the cars in the fleet for new video clips where the old system is highly confident about stuff, since most of the time it's working correctly and smooth out the errors by running a 3D scene algorithm on it afterwards.
Maybe that's why we saw so much traffic from the cars over night in the last weeks.
Mag ik vragen op welke autostrade je rijd
E17
Man I really like your videos. I took my M3 (2020.36.10) for a spin on some really challenging roads and it struggled with complex road layouts especially when there’s a lot of traffic. Works better with less cars around me. Do you have the same experience?
Depends on what you tested. If you’re talking about lane changes and exits, then regulations and heavy traffic are your enemy 😉
I can't wait for Dojo 🙈
I am not familiar with Tesla autopilot. did you take back control in 11:07 ? anyway very impressive..
Yes, it will not overtake cars on AP (yet 😉)
@@StevenPeeters I was involved in an autopilot project some years ago in an international car parts supplier, ( so I have more or less some background knowledge on how it is working) and I am really amazed about the data processing & data fusion along with the short latency of taking decisions. the HW architecture including the SOC used here is for sure very unique. This is not some classic algorithm playing in background, it looks like real neural networkings in the game..
wajdi slama interesting. And yes.l, these are neural nets for a big part and hardcoded stuff as well. The latter is constantly shrinking in favour of more decidions being taken by the neural nets.
In HW3.0 there are 2 custom Tesla chips specifically designed for neural nets. They process different parts but havevenough overlap to be a refundant system at the same time
Can you share a bit more (via private message if you wish) what you have been doing with autonomous vehicles and at which company?
@@StevenPeeters it is a collaboration project with a well known German EOM. I was involved in different topics from HW bring-up, power management, memory test/protection, and supervision concepts of the system execution ( system error handling, reaction and recovery strategies from error states). basically involved in all safety features ( ASIL-B & D levels) from system requirement to concept design, HSI, and execution and testing ( the whole V model approach)...
So I was not involved directly in the "autopilot feature" but I had the chance to get a look what is going-on on the other cores during sync-up meetings with teams and deps. In the past I did also a little bit of data fusion ( based on radar & stereo camera) for an augmented reality head up display project. My thesis is based on pedestrian detection and recognition using high freq radars, so the latter project was the door to get into this world.
Hi Steven. May I use your video in my video? I need few seconds 🙏
If it's only a few seconds, that's fine. Send me the link please
@@StevenPeeters Thank you very much! Steven. I'll send you tomorrow
@@StevenPeeters ua-cam.com/video/WIFim4N5FRw/v-deo.html
I wish I didn't splurge for FSD as the city AP is FAR too unreliable, as you can see in this video. It's nothing more than an expensive gimmick at the moment. Tesla really needs to fix the autopilot phantom braking problem before they roll out any more "features".
Eh, it’s cheaper to pay for it when you order the vehicle than adding it later on. Would you rather pay less and continue to see improvements or pay more later?
4:35 the autopilot thought you had a very reckless driver trying to overtake you and then aborted LoL
Nice catch!
but that's not the new rewritten autopilot, right?
No, nobody has that rewrite already. That stiil needs to go into private beta. Depending on how many issues arise, a few weeks to a few months later that will go into public beta and several weeks later to the general public. I'm expecting this to hit my car somewhere in Q1 2021. Hopefully sooner, but that is my expectation...
Are the updates free or you have to pay for it?
Tesla has currently 2 levels of AutoPilot: you have the regular AP, which does lane keeping and such, but the real dynamic features are in the (expensive) FSD option package. But once you have bought this, aal subsequent updates are free of charge. And the best thing is they come over the air. So no need to drive to any dealer to get an upgrade (as other brands need to do). The car just updates while it sits in the driveway or at work, for example.
Dear Steven do you mean hardware 3 (compared to HW) when you speak of autopilot 3 ? Thanks as always for your vidéos !
Yes, correct
The weirdest thing in the video was seeing a Dodge Ram in Belgium (@3:13) Whoever is driving that is rather brave or paying super close attention, given the width of roads in Europe. It barely fits in standard lanes.
It is a rare sight, but not that uncommon. We have some big pickups driving around here as well. And each and every time I see them, I ask myself "but why?"...
Nice car at 4:31 on the other side of the road.
Indeed.
Nicely done
Thanks
trying to watch a person doing his job and correcting his errors is much harder than doing that thing yourself. that includes correcting a robot's errors.
those roads and infrastructure are made for humans, not automatic drivers. for achieving zero probability of accidents a special railway system that enables overtaking and radio frequency signalling like ils (instrument landing system) are required. then people can freely sleep while they are on the road.
I agree that for achieving full FSD everywhere, the road infrastructure will need to change as well.
the vehicle needs to stop half a car length back from the line at a stop light. include in update 2020.36.12
It’s definitely not doing that in update 2020.40.3 It’s better now, but not half a car length
Great review!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
as you state this version is 3.0, the latest release is 7.0, the dangerous performance issues demonstrated here have long been weeded out. are you trying to mislead?
AP is divided into hardware: AP1, AP2.0, AP2.5 and AP3.0 (or HW3.0). The actual version is slso mentioned and is 2020.36.11
Not sure where you get the 7 from..,
11:00 The speedometer has definitely got error...30kmph is not that slow...
Must be 15-20 kmph
It just looks slow on video, but is indeed 30kph
SO it's called "AutoPilot" but it can't take roundabouts??
Auto Pilot doesn’t mean Full Self Driving.
Can you tell me if you have the FSD or just the MCU2 with enhanced AP2.
Title says AP3.0 😉, which is HW3. And yes, I do have FSD. But in Europe that means hardly anything. We only get traffic light and stop sign recognition on top of EAP due to stupid UNECE regulations 😢
@@StevenPeeters They are changing my MCU1 to MCU2 and I have improved AP2 and I wanted to know the advantages
@@JuancarlosHernandez-tf1by If you don't have FSD they won't upgrade your AP computer and you won't experience anything different in that sense. You just get a decent working MCU again and some better displays. Here are my first impressions after upgrading: ua-cam.com/video/FqaSJqUZeb4/v-deo.html
Nice one Steven
Thanks
If I had a car like this I don't I'd trust it in built up areas on autopilot .
It's not too bad though. What you see here is a specific test of what I know is difficult for the system at the moment. It is not a clear representation of what everyday driving looks like. But it does still need clearly marked lanes, so city centers are still a no-no.
I'm still waiting for 2020.36.11, I received 2020.36.3 2 weeks ago. None of these functions (speed signs, traffic lights) in my version...
Correct. This stopping for traffic lights and stop signs feature are only available as of 2020.36.10. Patience, it will come...
@Steven Peeters --- 12Esc is on Elon's number-last list for updates ...
Do you need full self driving for this or just the autopilot that comes with the car?
A lot of the features are in the FSD package with a new car. If you have EAP (Enhanced AutoPilot) on older cars then you have most of the functionality as well, but from this point on there will be a difference as newer features (such as the upcoming 360° parking view) will be FSD only probably.
Question to the nerds; How long before fully automation?
Technologically, I will put out a prediction sfter the rewrite has hit my car and I’ve tested it. Legislation wise: 5 years at least, maybe more 😢
Wait a second... Tesla released something called "Autopilot" which was/is not able to handle roundabouts and traffic lights?
Yes, it is a driving aid and not an autonomous car
@@StevenPeeters Thanks for the reply and for your wonderful video. It was really interesting to see what the autopilot actually is and what you can expect. I also like that Tesla seems to continuously improve it. However, to a certain extent, I can now understand why some countries do not allow Tesla to advertise the autopilot feature as "autopilot".
I didn’t know Tesla’s were so far away from FSD
Part of that is due to the regulatory restrictions that make AP a lot less safe than it actually is: ua-cam.com/video/SxwrD0MMZxE/v-deo.html
But another part is also the fact that in Europe, each country has its own rules, signs, lane markings etc. AND we have much narrower roads, which are less forgiving than the wide US lanes.
And of course, Tesla has the most data from the US and will focus on getting that right first before Europe or any other region will be on the same level
Does it read the curve signs?
What is the meaning of 2020.36.11, is it year, date, month or something else, please explain it??
It’s the software version number of the build that id being installed. 2020 is the year, 36 is the week number. The rest is build number. Usually, the week number is a few weeks behind on the current week number because of the fact that it is tested internally and then by the beta testers before it goes out to the general public.
It’s the same system as with the software on your computer or phone
Even if I wished to have a Tesla, I must first wish for proper road markings for the Tesla autopilot to function...
better wish for an AP that doesn't need them.