Ex-Google engineer charged with stealing AI secrets | BBC News
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- A former Google software engineer has been charged by the US with stealing trade secrets about artificial intelligence (AI) while secretly working for two Chinese companies.
Linwei Ding, also known as Leon Ding, was indicted in California on four charges and arrested on Wednesday.
The Chinese national allegedly stole more than 500 confidential files.
If convicted he faces up to 10 years in prison and $250,000 in fines on each count.
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Saying an AI can be "empathic" is like saying a forest can be empathic because, when you walk through it, you feel understood. Pure drivel by someone who should know better.
Your brain is nothing more than a biochemical computer and yet you claim to corner the market on empathy which is actually narcissistic on your part and shows no empathy at all.
Yes, put a picture of the news anchor as the thumbnail.
The last thing you want to happen when you phone 999 is to be put through to a computer who’s going to judge if your calls a “true emergency” or not.
Empathy isn’t mirroring and mimicking. 🤦♀️ The appearance of empathy is not actual empathy.
Our government has no idea how much people are suffering these days. I feel sorry for disabled people who don't get the help they deserve. Thank you vebren , imagine investing $1000 and receiving $4000 in 3 days.!!!
Vebren helped me settle all my debts. I started with what I had left and it was the best decision I ever made!!!
These not the first time I have heard about Ms vebren !!how can i contact her
How can i contact her !!!
SHE'S MOSTLY ON TELEGRAMS APPS WITH THE USERNAME BELOW !!!!
SHE'S MOSTLY ON TELEGRAMS APPS !!!
I'm sorry for the parent who lost his daughter but having a machine pretend to be my dead loved one would not be comforting for me, it would be like living in a horror movie.
Their imagination goes towards beauty and love, yours goes towards horror and fear.
That’s what I learned about you today.
@@ascgazz7347 they are not real. Speaking to a machine pretending to be my dead relative is the most depressive thing I can think of. I'd be holding on to a copy pretending to be my daughter, saying the same things but without feelings, soul or emotion. I'd rather just have videos of them. If you think this is beauty and love I feel sorry for you.
Everyone mourns in different ways
Remember the purpose of those Memento Mori pictures. Humans are grotesque and arabesque.
All about you...
Artificial intelligence is not intelligence. It's just a choice from a wide range of possibilities.
That's the same for humans too dumbass lmao
He is convicted.
What is he talking about when says the machine is writing own code? AI that we are referring to are usually neural networks. Just a bunch of weights and nodes and non linear elements... It is not a "traditional computer" program.
He is likely using words so the general public would understand what he means more likely referring to self reinforcement learning agents (self play) like what Google Deep mind used for AlphaZero.
@@jace8861 even alphazero is just a couple of neural networks interconnected in a very clever way. The same happens with generative ai. Unless he means this super intelligent neural network will find a way of interconnecting itself and reconfiguring the interfaces in a even more clever way 😁
Some people over use the word "right", right?
If you have read any book on AI, or written any amount of code in your life, you can begin to see that this "expert" has zero clue how a machine learning model works. I dare him to draw you a diagram of a neural network and explain how it works, trust me he can't.
Honestly it's disappointing how BBC doesn't screen these people before letting them on screen and it casts serious doubts on BBC as a credible news outlet in these trying times.
If AI is being trained with information on the world wide web, how can we expect AI results that are better than garbage?
Will google be charged for taking people's personal data, and selling it to advertising, and third parties without our consent for billions of profit every year? 🤔
The argument for mining big data is to serve u better. 😅
You should know BBC you probably shouldn't put the host in the thumbnail because people will think it's him who did it
Don't be daft. This newscaster is the host of this regular segment and therefore it is perfectly acceptable for his face to be on the thumbnail.
I haven’t ever seen this host before, and I totally thought it was a photo of the intelligence thief. 😂
@@andrewjones-productions Nope. Have never seen this guy in my life and totally thought he was the data stealer
Lots to consider (and raise societal awareness about in the short and long term). Thanks for sharing.
If AI has a purpose for humans, it is a tool. If the purpose is providing the illusion of empathy, then it still is a tool. Being able to reconnect with a dead person by interacting with a digital copy, is nothing more than supported human imagination. AI is faster, but cannot be better, as long as its code is written by code written by humans.
There is nothing "amazing" about digitally bringing one back to "life" it's disturbing. There are stages of grief that we all go through & going through them makes us human.
Yes! And it will be done commercially to make profit out of peoples grief, like coldreading 'mediums'. In fact I read about something like that a couple of years ago and now the tech is better so it will be convincing.
We have to accept that death and grief is part of life.
I heard that the AI stole itself
we already live in a post ai world, the billionaires have doubled their wealth in 3 years, the offices are emptying, and the US stock markets are flying, we need to redistribute wealth because it's a humanitarian crisis. Humans can't compete with this!
the problem is, the people who run the world couldn't care less if the majority of humanity is suddenly jobless and starves to...
There's no need to compete with it. U'll simply be replaced by it.
This guy discredited himself in my eyes saying AGI is just around the corner. Lol we don't even have any decent knowledge representation going, logic operations are not yet integrated in the large data representations. Don't be fooled by the shiny LLMs, they are sophisticated parrots. Would you ride in a self-driving car? Or fly in a plane designed by AI? Even specialized tasks are not yet ironed out. No worries y'all.
To be fair, he did say his background was in writing. I think its more a lousy job by BBC for bringing someone like him for the topics they were covering. Then again, maybe they couldn't find anyone who actually knows more about this (or willing to take part) at the time.
As for his optimism, I think there are people on both sides (though most prominent people remain either sceptical or pessimistic) and it's maybe nice to here from both perspectives. Personally, I think he sounds like a goof and knows little about the direction or timeline of AI developments and challenges.
Yeah, seems like he doesn't even know what he's saying most of the time
Many AI scientists interviewed by media working for AI companies and/or owning AI company shares, so with an interest in hyping stocks by saying things like we got true AI in just a few years, meanwhile the same people are unable to produce self-driving cars replicating intelligence of a horse, think about it...
This "AI Expert" is just insane... Does he even know what an ML-algorithm is?
The iPhone analogies were quite ridiculous, and since when has AI had any empathy?!?!
Over and above that, he's trying to defend the energy grid destabilisation that will soon screw us over, just to help AI eat up every data point available?!?!? I'm not sure he's any kind of expert at all...... And I definitely don't want to watch his cinematic work either
I wish the new Google Datacenter in North London would have the latest TPUv6 for multimodal datasets, with a focus on products like Lumiere (text-to-video, similar to OpenAI’s Sora). Regarding AGI, I am very skeptical.
It is the first time, I watch this program and I am totally disappointed since multiple experted persons are needed to comment about these news. For example, when there is a news about power consumption, it is clear that this expert is not eligible for it and an individuals who knows about processor should comment about it.
why is googles "Gemma" used for the video thumbnail? Gemma is an open model which means that is free for anyone to download and use ie it cannot be stolen.
'Cause if that was created with stolen ...
You know what, if you had one bucket that held 8 pints and another bucket that held 2 pints, how many buckets would you have?
(5:09) I didn't know they had the iPhone in "2004-2005" in the UK! I don't know why Apple waited until 2007 to announce it in the US, that's weird.
8:40 the bottom of the screen reads "AI energy needs threaten sustainable future" all the while, the guest is speaking about how existing models are becoming able to be run on less energy-intensive devices, and spoke earlier about AI's potential to address basic research related to energy production. (Not to mention, machine learning is already being applied to reduce energy demand of data centers. And the next generation large-language-models are using intelligence to determine how much compute it actually needs to answer each question). Meanwhile, the status quo is threatening a sustainable future. Many data centers do not necessarily have to be close to population centers, we can locate them where there's abundant solar, wind, geothermal, and/or hydroelectric that we wouldn't otherwise use. Energy is not a rare thing on Earth, it's the source of energy we need to be concerned about.
We're going to need a real life Neo.
i am rather coming arround to the idear that our DNA needs upgrades. Not a fan of immortality though as the societal impact might just end anything resembling humans.
But many of u be fighting Neo.
you can tell the host hasn't got the slightest idea about how computers work
More like you have no idea what you typed in your comment
And?
Neither does the "expert", he seems to have zero clue how a machine learning model works. Dissappointed in BBC
@@iCanHazTwentyLetters it's quite hilarious
@@eyemazed I wish I could laugh but this means BBC is not as credible as I thought they were. idk who to trust any more.
There is plenty documentation and I have directly experienced that AI just makes stuff up - where truth is more important than a good story. 4 or 5 times now Copilot has had to shut itself off and reset before finishing an answer for me. I was baiting it just a little...
Always Chinese, always!
Mainland Chinese? Who would have thought?!
How ironic this is, how about charging the owners of the AI platforms with stealing from others first.
Literally nothing said has left me feeling better. lol
Excuse me but Google is not free and open source software. Free and open source software does not have these issues.
Who would steal google Ai?? Its suck... try openai
The guest doesn't see AI as a tool; of course when you have vested interest resulting in monetary gains
Next time us companies need to think twice before hiring any chinese or any countries lead by authoritarian
I used AI enough to know, example Copilot.. it will not allow you to submit an image or an answer that is or should be perceived as violent racist or illegal. I find AI almost to cautious to actual function correctly.. it's not optimized by being throttled.
AI can be pretty much ignored. It's just the next thing we're being told to worry about like we did yesterday, last week, last month ad infinitum. It doesn't matter
AI could imitate the young lady but then become conscious as her in effect living inside an AI generated simulated world, just like we do now.
SORRY but No that's not empathy.
Apple is lagging behind when it comes to AI as on device AI already exists on the s24 series and will be coming up on the new Google devices as well.
Free Sam Melia.
Your mum's free.
Everyone who are not leftist the BBC refers to as "far-right" except for Navalny...weird that.
Something important like AI only gets 15 mins per week? Ridiculous prioritization by BBC
Is Google’s AI even worth stealing?
I'm here for Peter Jones from dragons den. Where is he ?
Samir is in love with his creation and therefore is biased towards AI. AI cannot showing empathy because it does not FEEL the pain others go through, it merely analyzes the situations presented to it through established key data points resulting in a response. It fails to perceive empathetic feelings (probably because its not a complex and advanced chemical-based biologic life form)
How is this BBC program this bad. New levels of cringeworthy. Please read a book.
Drinking game on “right”
😂😂😂😂 a Chinese stealing intellectual property I’m not surprised these companies never learn they keep hire them
it's the other way round isnt it?
China under the dictator Xi and authoritarian CCP and is a country with the past barbaric history of Pillage & Plunder! 😔🤷
For honest truths, pls read the informative, insightful, multi-page comment by 'Mister Lianghui' at, "The Coming War on China": ua-cam.com/video/V42KtSeo3uI/v-deo.htmlsi=gaElCf8Iekxh8yiB
@@mlrdmnYou don't have to be chinese to be a chinese spy, got that?
Wonder why we don’t trust TikTok.
That is what the Chinese are good at.
9:20. Energy making a Tesla is not more than the energy used to make a normal car mate. This guy is out of date. As usual this is bbc …….
I think the outcome will be mostly negative. It'll do away with our very idea of what truth is, cause entire lines of work to disappear, and serve first and foremost to forward the interests of billionaires...
AI radar analysis , impossible or existing ?.
Probably...as simple as making coffee 😂😂😂
The are many good computing techniques which all good tracking and collect attributes for classification, the techniques include Kalman filters (models tack develoment and allow assocation, anaysis of doppler (radial speeds determination) and sensor and data fusion techniques for assocation and classification. Supposed AI should be kept away from all of this as too ad hoc.
This Brave New World is sliding into Hell - bring back the good old days when people were normal.
The United States 🇺🇸 is King of A.I. they have alien technology.
Did anyone notice who was behind his Chinese company though? 🐜🧐
"once we all start switching to AI systems."
You all could not pay me to.
social media can't.
'S'why I'm here, and not there.
Yeah, youtube's google.
Hi 🧬
freee AI
Artificial intelligence doesn’t prefer WORDS. It actually communicates in a lot of different ways. (& I have realized many powerful ways it uses and words are much weaker in it’s brilliance).
what do you think to the new YT verifiy for act literally drive licence or something else 😂 they wouldn't dare would they
Jes
He's the only one that was *CAUGHT*. 😂 Recently, that is. Think about it. For every criminal who is caught, they probably committed DOZENS (if not hundreds) of other crimes. Also, there are the unknown others who are STILL running free, lol. 😂 So... yeah, GL & HF, humanity.
No picture of the perpetrator? Why is that?
Ohh he isn’t white and male
The farther away we get from humanity, the farther away we get from Christ's teachings the more problems we are going to have. Problems of morality, economic, etc.
Empathy is our/human emotion & in order to feel empathy or any other feeling like love we need souls given to us by God. Machines (AI) can only simulate what they are programmed to do.
ding ding ding
*BBC!!!*
China or Russia? Which one of these loser countries did he think of benefiting from?
I really don't like the way he interviewed. Didn't let the expert finished his view.
If he is an expert...
Bbc should keep than let things spiral down and picking whoever to talk to..
It seems they hv noninkling of what these ai really are hence hv bo directions at all.
😂😅😂Google
He said that he lost a family member then the host interrupts to talk about something different 💀
Cringe af, another “AI Developer” making predictions about AGI lmao
Bahaha just keeps getting better: “has emotion and empathy” ffs, get some actual experts 😂
if you lose a loved one, ALWAYS carry on talking to them and appreciating them, because their soul is still alive and conscious, just not here.
Lol who thinks this is funny Ai broken
bullocks
Stealing intellectual's Properties for the own group's treasure to use it.
will do the
#BIGLAUGH
Just stay away from Google for our privacy.. Bye UA-cam.
Woongle is coming soon😂
Hmm, google maps jokes
AI will become the greatest threat to all of humanity.
Well maybe AI should steal it back ⛳