Appreciate the mention John, thank you. Finally bit the bullet this week and bought a new (used) sounder off eBay. Everything seems to be working properly now. Couple of points that people may not realise if they have later cars (2003 -). The sounder only chirps a) when the car is 'dead locked' with the remote or b) if the boot/bonnet or a door is open when the remote is used to lock the car. It does not chirp when the car is unlocked (unlike Purdey) nor does it chirp on the first press of the remote i.e. not dead locked.
This happened to my 1999 xk8. it manifested itself in the following way: the car would chirp when opening and locking so gave me no indication that anything was wrong, however I noticed that the front fog lights would not work along with the rear fog light warning bulb. looking at various threads it seems that fuse 3 or 13 or 15 dependent upon the car can be the circuit affected. I found fuse 13 to be blown so changed it. the car chirped again as normal until I drove it and the fuse had blown again. rather than put another fuse in which I don't recommend, I looked about and found that although not listed the siren is also on that fuse! I disconnected the plug and solved the blown fuse issue, all circuits working. I was advised that the siren has rechargeable batteries and that when they fail they often create a short circuit which in turn blows the fuse. a great use of your time John. much appreciated.
I have owned this Coupe for 11 years. I does this from time to time. The park light is lit up. Now it is not doing it. I will keep the fix in mind. I thank you for that! Thanks for getting back! Regards, Ben
Hi John. As a recent xk owner I have found your videos absolutely brilliant! And with the doc pack you have on your home page I was able to trace a heater problem (only warm if engine >2000rpm) down to 5amp fuse no3 in front lhs under bonnet fuse box. Changed it and of course it blew straight away. Then I saw comments on this video and disconnected the IS, which I didn't know I had. This turned out much easier than expected as I got access through the wee hatch on the front of the RHS wheel arch liner (with full left lock, ie wheel still on). Replaced said 5amp fuse again and bingo! and that rather good feeling you get (as an amateur) when you fix something yourself that you had worried was going to need a garage and lots of cash!! Also, one not so pleasant secret I found out early on is not to park mine (a X100 convertible) front down on our (modestly steep but not unusual) drive. Water soon fills the well round the front of the boot and overflows into the boot before running backwards out of the well.. Easy solution was to park front up, then found auto box fluid on the drive. So I've now got a rather amateurish drain system installed. This might be a problem you won't come across so much in Lincolnshire!! All the best. Richard Hughes (Cumbria)
Hi Richard. Glad you enjoyed the video's. And Re the Intelligent sounder issue you resolved. I know of several owners who have spent hundreds at Jag dealers without them being able to resolve it. So you should be Very pleased with yourself👍
Thanks Mitch.👍 OOO! Whats the situation with emergency trunk access on the XJ?. Genuinely not looked into this. I think its an electronic release but I don't think I have seen a keyhole!
Really pleased to have found your channel John, whole bunch of niggling little faults on my 2000 Coupe that you have already addressed, keep up the great work!
John, what a coincidence I was watching your other video on alarm and noticed the car chirping. But my cars have never chirped! Since then have been looking at replacing the sounder or repairing the sounder. Might even try using a newer unit. Great reminder about the boot lock. Excellent, thanks Damian
I would be interested in looking at aftermarket replacements for mine as well Damian. Its only a matter of time before it fails as ni cads are not meant to last 23 years
To The Garage John, took it off tonight and it’s not easily repaired. Full of rubber filler, plug contacts broken and components look worn out. Probably live without the chirp and any potential battery drain. At least for now. Part of the weight saving (ha ha) as weighs a ton. MOT next Thursday and away we go. Thanks Damian.
My 04 XKR has never chirped during my ownership and I don't have any random alarm issues except one..... The alarm goes off during heavy rain. I'm told it is a shock sensor located under the cover behind the rear view mirror, normally used to detect someone trying to break the glass. Some say to put some foam tape over the microphone to decrease its sensitivity but as I usually garage the car, I haven't done so yet. I also had exactly the same issue with a 1998 XK8 which lived on my sister's driveway. I was not popular as the alarm often went off in the middle of the night. It was such a pain in the proverbial for them that I ended up not locking it (as it was blocked in behind several other cars). However, not locking it drained the battery and I didn't have a charger then. Nowadays I keep the XKR in a rented garage permanently on a Ctek charger.
I have heard of others having the same issue and muffling the microphone a little. If you lock the car with the key rather than the remote, it won't set the interior alarm, and I THINK🤔 it won't set the screen break detector. Not 100 % sure on that one (maybe 80%😁)
Right, first job tomorrow check my intelligent sounder, never had so much as a little chirp from mine and didnt realise i may have one even! Thanks as always John, and yes i have checked my black key boot entrance system and yes i dont need the angle grinder yet! Such a relief, sounds awful. Hope you're well Andrew
Hi John just a quick one, my friend has just a finished a complete re-build of a Morris Marina pick-up. Total strip, everything looks fabulous, as his wife is disabled has fitted a auto box!!. The vehicle was given to him as a thank you for work he helped out with at a Garden Centre. He has now started on a Jowett Javelin van if fact he found two of them.
The marina pick up👍👍 I know marinas are much maligned but they were my first love. Because they were so simple they got me interested in tinkering with cars. Problems with them are never mystery's just straight forward tasks to do. If it were not for how badly they rusted I would probably have a large fleet of them now! In all seriousness they are getting genuinely scarce and less common variants such as the van and pickups even more so. At some stage I intend to find a decent coupe shell and build myself a nice sleeper one with a V8, banded steel wheels and a nice metallic gun metal paint finish.
I appreciate all your tips.i live in Chicago illinois have a 2001 xk8 thank God for u and trump.your tips on where water collects and where to check for rot was great.been with u for a long time just wanted to say thanku thanku very much.
Hi John, I had an interesting one regarding the alarm sounder. I had an MOT failure because the leds in the fog light switches were not working. Changed the switch panel for a used one but same result. Front fogs would not go on and rear fogs would go on but no led light in the switch. having looked at the wiring schematics and got a suggestion from one of the forums, the problem was the sounder. The failed internal batteries were pulling the voltage down on the same circuit as the fog lights. Unplugged the sounder and all fixed. Not even bothered to replace it as the horn still works if the alarm goes off. By the way. I can hear your videos quite clearly.
My IS went south and didnt allow the seat heaters to work or my transmission to move from Park. Had to do the manual thing to allow the gearstick to move. Disconnected the IS (taped up the connection) and all was good again. Everything is fine now. Will get to look at the IS some time soon, but I'm not missing the chirp when locking.
Hi John, Correct with the verdigris....natural patina to copper when exposed to air, though more problematic if exposed to sea air...wonder if Alan is located near coastal area ( or if his car was previously located near the coast).........ah, the old favourite boot lock ploy......
I had some serious problem with the intelligent sounder which was stopping the heater from working, basically it was blowing the fuse which also supplied the fog lights and the heater secondary pump. I disconnected the intelligent sounder, replaced the fuse ( think it was fuse 6 under the bonnet on the left hand side) and the heater worked fantastic after that. This caused me some headache at the time and I have never reconnected the intelligent sounder. So if your heater doesn’t work very well, check your fog lights and the fuse the that supplies it and if it’s blown disconnect the intelligent sounder before replacing it. My car is a 1997 XK8 convertible, hope this helps. Oh and my sounder kept going off at strange times and only chirped a couple of times and replacements are not cheap!
Hi Roger. Wow I hit the tip of the iceberg with the problems the sounders can cause. Your comment and all the others show it as the root cause of almost as many issues as a bad battery. (and hang on a minute🤔 the sounder can cause a bad battery🤯.) I think I might investigate aftermarket swap outs.
My car was doing the door lock dance both sides would go lock unlock lock unlock for like 30 sec. I found out I needed a new Vehicle battery, it lasted seven years. The alarm use to sound off now and then if I used the key to lock the car then later unlock it with the key, that was embarrassing trying to disarm it at 4am. My fob was not working at the time reprogram the fob thru the ignition key but that will only do the fob. It chirps now but the car waits 30sec to sound off again embarrassing to say the least. Thanks for the find will be looking into the horn alarm battery.
You're welcome! However check out the additional info from Alan, ' Couple of points that people may not realise if they have later cars (2003 -). The sounder only chirps a) when the car is 'dead locked' with the remote or b) if the boot/bonnet or a door is open when the remote is used to lock the car. It does not chirp when the car is unlocked (unlike Purdey) nor does it chirp on the first press of the remote i.e. not dead locked.
@@ToTheGarage yes, I read Allen's post. Amazing amount of thought went into engineering these vehicles, however there are times when I think they might have been quite mad coming up with some of these quirks.
First of all, your sound volume seems fine & love the accent, as if no one has one !! I have not used your info re cleaning the key fob & consequently my remote rarely works, except on the boot ? Using the key has not been a problem. Assuming the fuel cap release system is electronic, next to the boot release, mine has a mind of its own & can be unresponsive. Did you do an episode on this eons ago ?, was there a release in the boot ? Thanks
Really appreciate the message Alan. Cheers👍 Yes here is the link to episode 7 where we cover the manual fuel filler flap release amoungst other things. Stay safe my friend👍👍ua-cam.com/video/0X55BtFTwfQ/v-deo.html
A sealed unserviceable unit with internal NICAD batteries which can only be expected to have a life of a few years at most. What could Jaguar have been thinking? On my 2002 XK8 it is marked as LJA2620BB "Passive Sounder" but appears to have the same function? Primary horn alarm working OK after removal. I didn't pay close attention before removing it but the parasitic draw was in excess of 100ma even with the alarm turned off. I believe this is the answer to why my battery has been lasting only about 2 years at most. Am investigating practical means of removing the waterproof potting and replacing the batteries. An available replacement sounds like an entrepreneurial opportunity.
Hi Jag 626 guy. The sounder may be well be the cause of your parasitic drain 👍 However the Passive sounder (less inteligent🤣) don't have batteries in them so less to go wrong in theory.
Hi John, firstly thank you for your very helpful videos. I recently viewed the one about the key fobs. I followed the procedures and fob now works, but when I try to lock the car the car the only thing that happens is the indicators briefly flash but the door lock activators do not activate the locks. Any advice would be most welcome.
Mine never sounded, I did try replacing it with a used one from Eurojag, but that doesn’t work either. There is no current to the connector when I press the lock button, so I am assuming there is a break in the loom somewhere as all fuses are intact. I have given up on it for now…
When I try to lock my car with my key fob none of the buttons work and everytime I try to use any of the buttons it makes a loud beep and when I lock the car with the key it also makes a loud beep
Thanks John. Another good video. I had fun and games driving my car with the alarm sounder going and unable to turn it off. I pulled the fuse for it and it stopped. Never bothered with it and left the fuse out. I haven't noticed any other problems. Do you think any will surface?
No George. Nothing else will cease to function and another source of potential parasitic battery drain has been eliminated👍. I would only reinstate it if you REALLY want to keep full originality or are truly worried about relatively sophisticated thieves cutting the wires from your battery or car horn before towing your car away. (on a UK carthe sounder canl go off even if the car battery is absent)
Great to be recommended to your channel and many thanks for info. Grateful if you can confirm, are the XK (X-150s) the same set up with "Intillegent Sounder" as the XK8 (X-100s)?
Has anyone had any success fixing the Sounder (or sourcing a working replacement)? I bought a secondhand one but this too didn't work. They seem impossible to find new (no longer available from Jaguar or other firms, and no aftermarket equivalent that I have found), and the secondhand ones are rare to find for sale (and long since unserviceable if you do find one). I also think that it is somewhat unlikely that a repair would work on the Sounder because: a) there is sometimes corrosion of the circuit board itself b) it is very difficult to get at the components without damaging something as you dig out all the horrid rubbery sealant Would a sounder from another model of Jag work instead?
I have had stories from others who have successfully 'dug' the batteries out and rebuilt them at home. These issues are connected with the 'Intelligent' Sounder (that has battery back up) 'Passive' sounders were fitted in many territories which essentially produce the chirping sounds without standing in for the horn when the alarm goes off. These dont contain batteries and are therefore more robust. Maybe I should invent a plug in self build alternative🤔
I am pretty sure my sounder went spectacularly wrong bad burning smell after battery recharge as it was running low. When I fitted the battery back in it set off the alarm and the sounder shorted out internal blew a 5 p fuse in the engine fuse box fog lights no longer work and all the lights on the internal console for that row and the heater now only works when you are above a few thousand revs that one could be a coincidence but all seems to happen at once. Wish me luck going in at the weekend
Good luck Peter. With luck its a dead short in the sounder and its consuming too much current for some things to work properly (hence heater operating when the alternator is working hard?). 🤞
Hi John can you help please since fitting a new battery to the car the key fob won’t open and lock the doors is there a fuse for the alarm that might have blown ? Thanx Trevor
Just needs re programming Trevor. Probably the buttons on the fob got pressed while the car battery was off. This can throw off the rolling code versions. Just search on my channel for 'programming fob'. quite easy to do👍
John, my key fob and dash button do not trip the boot lock. Key works fine. Yes! I checked the "red button" and it is in the up position. I hear the servo but no action at the lock. Any thoughts?
Hi John - new to a 1997 XK8 (Japan import) and enjoying learning from your videos. This one resonates with me as no chirp. The IS appears to be disconnected but still no chirp on reconnection. However, as far I can tell no alarm either! The keys lock the car (no working fob at the mo) but it locks with boot/passenger door open which I thought would cause an alert - how might I check if there is a working alarm system? By the way, may see you around the roads of Lincs and the wolds in the spring as I'm a yellowbelly too :-)
Hi Paul. Well lets hope we can have a gathering somewhere in the first half of 2021👍. The Bubblecar museum keeps popping into my mind as a place with space and that would welcome car mad visitors.. I will have a think about the alarm
Hi holy John, My xk8 (named "DER CATZE") is every day chirping...another question is...what will we do, if there no secrets left of the xk8 ...??? oh my god ??? By the way your Lincolnshire "BRUMMI" accent I ever understand . Because I´m also an Islander. But my accent is like JFK " Ich bin ein Berliner" Have always fun und stay healthy and a big WOOOFF to "good golly" miss MOLLY ! Udo
Thanks Udo. Us islanders can always understand each other. I have asked Miss Molly and she has given me some more secrets of the XK8. So no worries for a while yet. Very best regards. John Molly says Woof!
Hi John! Love your videos! These Jags are complicated, Thanks for the dedication. My problem is , when I remove the key.... I hear, Da Da Da Da Da Da Da Da. In the car. It is not that loud. Then it stops. I have a new battery. I use a trickle charger. I have no chirp, but alarm arms. No alarms at night. I leave car unlocked in the garage. Any ideas??? Could it be the part you describe? Intelligent sounder. Same noise as when the ignition is NOT in park. And the key is on. Hope I am clear. I have a 1997 XK8 Coupe. Thank-you! Ben
Hi Ben, Well described re Da Da Da DA🤣 It sounds like the car is not recognising that it is in Park when you remove the key. Does the P light up red when its in Park? if not then it might be a sticky linear switch under the shifter or the shift cable needs a tiny adjustment. If it does light up then this is a new one on me.
Hi John-THANKS for getting back. It stopped doing it! Suddenly Stopped! Couldn't be more delighted. Who knows! I LOVE this stunning Coupe, but it haunts me at times like an EX wife. LOVE your videos! I had no idea there were so many details about the XK-8. I have to find the video that uses the foot pedal to reprogram driver type. Fascinating! Thank-you Sir John!
Hi John .... I posted this in an earlier video where you mentioned the problems of being locked out of the boot. This solution looks to be the easiest "get of out jail" card so I'll post it again in case anyone is interested: Many years ago, I read on the internet a way of drilling a small hole in the XK8 boot floor below the lock through which a piece of wire could be pulled which would be guaranteed to manually release the boot lock in an emergency for those whose battery had gone flat and whose "secret" key method had stopped working or had locked the keys in the boot. I did not try it because my "secret" lock has always worked properly. I'll see if I can find the link to the method. Found it: www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xk8-xkr-x100-17/emergency-boot-access-79432/
Now you have asked for it you know Morris marina's everyone knows how to fix a maureeeeeneeahh problem and that car can be fixed with a box of matches , strike match walk away
Appreciate the mention John, thank you. Finally bit the bullet this week and bought a new (used) sounder off eBay. Everything seems to be working properly now. Couple of points that people may not realise if they have later cars (2003 -). The sounder only chirps a) when the car is 'dead locked' with the remote or b) if the boot/bonnet or a door is open when the remote is used to lock the car. It does not chirp when the car is unlocked (unlike Purdey) nor does it chirp on the first press of the remote i.e. not dead locked.
Thanks for the extra info Alan.
This happened to my 1999 xk8. it manifested itself in the following way: the car would chirp when opening and locking so gave me no indication that anything was wrong, however I noticed that the front fog lights would not work along with the rear fog light warning bulb. looking at various threads it seems that fuse 3 or 13 or 15 dependent upon the car can be the circuit affected. I found fuse 13 to be blown so changed it. the car chirped again as normal until I drove it and the fuse had blown again. rather than put another fuse in which I don't recommend, I looked about and found that although not listed the siren is also on that fuse! I disconnected the plug and solved the blown fuse issue, all circuits working. I was advised that the siren has rechargeable batteries and that when they fail they often create a short circuit which in turn blows the fuse.
a great use of your time John. much appreciated.
The so called 'Intelligent' sounder seems to be at the root of a lot of problems.
Cheers @wraith388
I have owned this Coupe for 11 years. I does this from time to time. The park light is lit up. Now it is not doing it. I will keep the fix in mind. I thank you for that! Thanks for getting back! Regards, Ben
Hi John. As a recent xk owner I have found your videos absolutely brilliant! And with the doc pack you have on your home page I was able to trace a heater problem (only warm if engine >2000rpm) down to 5amp fuse no3 in front lhs under bonnet fuse box. Changed it and of course it blew straight away. Then I saw comments on this video and disconnected the IS, which I didn't know I had. This turned out much easier than expected as I got access through the wee hatch on the front of the RHS wheel arch liner (with full left lock, ie wheel still on). Replaced said 5amp fuse again and bingo! and that rather good feeling you get (as an amateur) when you fix something yourself that you had worried was going to need a garage and lots of cash!! Also, one not so pleasant secret I found out early on is not to park mine (a X100 convertible) front down on our (modestly steep but not unusual) drive. Water soon fills the well round the front of the boot and overflows into the boot before running backwards out of the well.. Easy solution was to park front up, then found auto box fluid on the drive. So I've now got a rather amateurish drain system installed. This might be a problem you won't come across so much in Lincolnshire!! All the best. Richard Hughes (Cumbria)
Hi Richard. Glad you enjoyed the video's. And Re the Intelligent sounder issue you resolved. I know of several owners who have spent hundreds at Jag dealers without them being able to resolve it. So you should be Very pleased with yourself👍
@@ToTheGarage Thanks John. Did you see my second comment about the hazards of parking nose-down on a steepish drive?
LOVE THE MESSAGE ABOUT THE BOOT LOCK.
Thanks Mitch.👍
OOO! Whats the situation with emergency trunk access on the XJ?. Genuinely not looked into this. I think its an electronic release but I don't think I have seen a keyhole!
Really pleased to have found your channel John, whole bunch of niggling little faults on my 2000 Coupe that you have already addressed, keep up the great work!
John, what a coincidence I was watching your other video on alarm and noticed the car chirping. But my cars have never chirped! Since then have been looking at replacing the sounder or repairing the sounder. Might even try using a newer unit. Great reminder about the boot lock. Excellent, thanks Damian
I would be interested in looking at aftermarket replacements for mine as well Damian. Its only a matter of time before it fails as ni cads are not meant to last 23 years
To The Garage John, took it off tonight and it’s not easily repaired. Full of rubber filler, plug contacts broken and components look worn out. Probably live without the chirp and any potential battery drain. At least for now. Part of the weight saving (ha ha) as weighs a ton. MOT next Thursday and away we go. Thanks Damian.
My 04 XKR has never chirped during my ownership and I don't have any random alarm issues except one..... The alarm goes off during heavy rain. I'm told it is a shock sensor located under the cover behind the rear view mirror, normally used to detect someone trying to break the glass. Some say to put some foam tape over the microphone to decrease its sensitivity but as I usually garage the car, I haven't done so yet. I also had exactly the same issue with a 1998 XK8 which lived on my sister's driveway. I was not popular as the alarm often went off in the middle of the night. It was such a pain in the proverbial for them that I ended up not locking it (as it was blocked in behind several other cars). However, not locking it drained the battery and I didn't have a charger then. Nowadays I keep the XKR in a rented garage permanently on a Ctek charger.
I have heard of others having the same issue and muffling the microphone a little. If you lock the car with the key rather than the remote, it won't set the interior alarm, and I THINK🤔 it won't set the screen break detector. Not 100 % sure on that one (maybe 80%😁)
Right, first job tomorrow check my intelligent sounder, never had so much as a little chirp from mine and didnt realise i may have one even! Thanks as always John, and yes i have checked my black key boot entrance system and yes i dont need the angle grinder yet! Such a relief, sounds awful.
Hope you're well
Andrew
Cheers Andrew👍
Thanks for your help.
Thanx John got it sorted now very helpful thank you 👍
Glad it helped
Hi John just a quick one, my friend has just a finished a complete re-build of a Morris Marina pick-up. Total strip, everything looks fabulous, as his wife is disabled has fitted a auto box!!. The vehicle was given to him as a thank you for work he helped out with at a Garden Centre. He has now started on a Jowett Javelin van if fact he found two of them.
The marina pick up👍👍
I know marinas are much maligned but they were my first love. Because they were so simple they got me interested in tinkering with cars. Problems with them are never mystery's just straight forward tasks to do.
If it were not for how badly they rusted I would probably have a large fleet of them now!
In all seriousness they are getting genuinely scarce and less common variants such as the van and pickups even more so.
At some stage I intend to find a decent coupe shell and build myself a nice sleeper one with a V8, banded steel wheels and a nice metallic gun metal paint finish.
I appreciate all your tips.i live in Chicago illinois have a 2001 xk8 thank God for u and trump.your tips on where water collects and where to check for rot was great.been with u for a long time just wanted to say thanku thanku very much.
The US here too, Atlanta.
Glad to help
Thanks for that 👍
Another brilliant video..thank you.!
Glad you enjoyed it
Another enlightening video. The sounder batteries are a problem I've had on another vehicle causing a parasitic drain but not the Jag thus far....
Ive only had problems wit them on the Jag.🤣
I guess its because it 'just' young enough to have one, but too old for it to still be reliable🤔
Thanks again for the info John.
Hi John, I had an interesting one regarding the alarm sounder. I had an MOT failure because the leds in the fog light switches were not working. Changed the switch panel for a used one but same result. Front fogs would not go on and rear fogs would go on but no led light in the switch. having looked at the wiring schematics and got a suggestion from one of the forums, the problem was the sounder. The failed internal batteries were pulling the voltage down on the same circuit as the fog lights. Unplugged the sounder and all fixed. Not even bothered to replace it as the horn still works if the alarm goes off. By the way. I can hear your videos quite clearly.
Really appreciate your comment Steve.
Thank you😉
And yet again the sounder is at the root of even more issues.🤯
Thank you John. You answered all my questions.
No Problem Richard👍
My IS went south and didnt allow the seat heaters to work or my transmission to move from Park. Had to do the manual thing to allow the gearstick to move. Disconnected the IS (taped up the connection) and all was good again. Everything is fine now. Will get to look at the IS some time soon, but I'm not missing the chirp when locking.
Wow. These things really do cause far reaching issues
Thank you allen
Yes Thanks Allen
Hi John,
Correct with the verdigris....natural patina to copper when exposed to air, though more problematic if exposed to sea air...wonder if Alan is located near coastal area ( or if his car was previously located near the coast).........ah, the old favourite boot lock ploy......
Cheers Harry
I had some serious problem with the intelligent sounder which was stopping the heater from working, basically it was blowing the fuse which also supplied the fog lights and the heater secondary pump. I disconnected the intelligent sounder, replaced the fuse ( think it was fuse 6 under the bonnet on the left hand side) and the heater worked fantastic after that. This caused me some headache at the time and I have never reconnected the intelligent sounder. So if your heater doesn’t work very well, check your fog lights and the fuse the that supplies it and if it’s blown disconnect the intelligent sounder before replacing it. My car is a 1997 XK8 convertible, hope this helps. Oh and my sounder kept going off at strange times and only chirped a couple of times and replacements are not cheap!
Hi Roger.
Wow I hit the tip of the iceberg with the problems the sounders can cause.
Your comment and all the others show it as the root cause of almost as many issues as a bad battery. (and hang on a minute🤔 the sounder can cause a bad battery🤯.)
I think I might investigate aftermarket swap outs.
My car was doing the door lock dance both sides would go lock unlock lock unlock for like 30 sec. I found out I needed a new Vehicle battery, it lasted seven years. The alarm use to sound off now and then if I used the key to lock the car then later unlock it with the key, that was embarrassing trying to disarm it at 4am. My fob was not working at the time reprogram the fob thru the ignition key but that will only do the fob. It chirps now but the car waits 30sec to sound off again embarrassing to say the least. Thanks for the find will be looking into the horn alarm battery.
Cheers Robert. Its always the Battery at fault😁. But occasionally its the alarm (well its battery anyway🤣)
Very interesting John 👌
Glad you enjoyed it
I had absolutely no idea that this chirp mechanism existed! Thank you for posting this video!
You're welcome! However check out the additional info from Alan,
' Couple of points that people may not realise if they have later cars (2003 -). The sounder only chirps a) when the car is 'dead locked' with the remote or b) if the boot/bonnet or a door is open when the remote is used to lock the car. It does not chirp when the car is unlocked (unlike Purdey) nor does it chirp on the first press of the remote i.e. not dead locked.
@@ToTheGarage yes, I read Allen's post. Amazing amount of thought went into engineering these vehicles, however there are times when I think they might have been quite mad coming up with some of these quirks.
First of all, your sound volume seems fine & love the accent, as if no one has one !!
I have not used your info re cleaning the key fob & consequently my remote rarely works, except on the boot ? Using the key has not been a problem.
Assuming the fuel cap release system is electronic, next to the boot release, mine has a mind of its own & can be unresponsive. Did you do an episode on this eons ago ?, was there a release in the boot ?
Thanks
Really appreciate the message Alan. Cheers👍
Yes here is the link to episode 7 where we cover the manual fuel filler flap release amoungst other things.
Stay safe my friend👍👍ua-cam.com/video/0X55BtFTwfQ/v-deo.html
On the x308 the sounder (same as yours) can fail and blow a fuse under the bonnet.
Good to know for when an 308 joins the fleet🤞🤫
Great that john mine dose not chirp cheers
Hi John,
Love the XK8 videos, have you done one on the maintenance and changing of the oil for the convertible roof?
Cheers Barrieb5
Not yet! 👍😉
A sealed unserviceable unit with internal NICAD batteries which can only be expected to have a life of a few years at most. What could Jaguar have been thinking? On my 2002 XK8 it is marked as LJA2620BB "Passive Sounder" but appears to have the same function? Primary horn alarm working OK after removal. I didn't pay close attention before removing it but the parasitic draw was in excess of 100ma even with the alarm turned off. I believe this is the answer to why my battery has been lasting only about 2 years at most. Am investigating practical means of removing the waterproof potting and replacing the batteries. An available replacement sounds like an entrepreneurial opportunity.
Hi Jag 626 guy.
The sounder may be well be the cause of your parasitic drain 👍
However the Passive sounder (less inteligent🤣) don't have batteries in them so less to go wrong in theory.
Hi John, firstly thank you for your very helpful videos. I recently viewed the one about the key fobs. I followed the procedures and fob now works, but when I try to lock the car the car the only thing that happens is the indicators briefly flash but the door lock activators do not activate the locks. Any advice would be most welcome.
Mine never sounded, I did try replacing it with a used one from Eurojag, but that doesn’t work either. There is no current to the connector when I press the lock button, so I am assuming there is a break in the loom somewhere as all fuses are intact. I have given up on it for now…
When I try to lock my jaguar xk8 it’s makes a loud beep and doesn’t lock
When I try to lock my car with my key fob none of the buttons work and everytime I try to use any of the buttons it makes a loud beep and when I lock the car with the key it also makes a loud beep
Thanks John. Another good video. I had fun and games driving my car with the alarm sounder going and unable to turn it off. I pulled the fuse for it and it stopped. Never bothered with it and left the fuse out. I haven't noticed any other problems. Do you think any will surface?
No George. Nothing else will cease to function and another source of potential parasitic battery drain has been eliminated👍. I would only reinstate it if you REALLY want to keep full originality or are truly worried about relatively sophisticated thieves cutting the wires from your battery or car horn before towing your car away. (on a UK carthe sounder canl go off even if the car battery is absent)
Great to be recommended to your channel and many thanks for info. Grateful if you can confirm, are the XK (X-150s) the same set up with "Intillegent Sounder" as the XK8 (X-100s)?
Early ones are a similar set up
Has anyone had any success fixing the Sounder (or sourcing a working replacement)? I bought a secondhand one but this too didn't work. They seem impossible to find new (no longer available from Jaguar or other firms, and no aftermarket equivalent that I have found), and the secondhand ones are rare to find for sale (and long since unserviceable if you do find one).
I also think that it is somewhat unlikely that a repair would work on the Sounder because:
a) there is sometimes corrosion of the circuit board itself
b) it is very difficult to get at the components without damaging something as you dig out all the horrid rubbery sealant
Would a sounder from another model of Jag work instead?
I have had stories from others who have successfully 'dug' the batteries out and rebuilt them at home. These issues are connected with the 'Intelligent' Sounder (that has battery back up) 'Passive' sounders were fitted in many territories which essentially produce the chirping sounds without standing in for the horn when the alarm goes off. These dont contain batteries and are therefore more robust.
Maybe I should invent a plug in self build alternative🤔
I am pretty sure my sounder went spectacularly wrong bad burning smell after battery recharge as it was running low. When I fitted the battery back in it set off the alarm and the sounder shorted out internal blew a 5 p fuse in the engine fuse box fog lights no longer work and all the lights on the internal console for that row and the heater now only works when you are above a few thousand revs that one could be a coincidence but all seems to happen at once. Wish me luck going in at the weekend
Good luck Peter.
With luck its a dead short in the sounder and its consuming too much current for some things to work properly (hence heater operating when the alternator is working hard?). 🤞
Hi John can you help please since fitting a new battery to the car the key fob won’t open and lock the doors is there a fuse for the alarm that might have blown ? Thanx Trevor
Just needs re programming Trevor. Probably the buttons on the fob got pressed while the car battery was off. This can throw off the rolling code versions. Just search on my channel for 'programming fob'. quite easy to do👍
John, my key fob and dash button do not trip the boot lock. Key works fine. Yes! I checked the "red button" and it is in the up position. I hear the servo but no action at the lock. Any thoughts?
Hi John - new to a 1997 XK8 (Japan import) and enjoying learning from your videos. This one resonates with me as no chirp. The IS appears to be disconnected but still no chirp on reconnection. However, as far I can tell no alarm either! The keys lock the car (no working fob at the mo) but it locks with boot/passenger door open which I thought would cause an alert - how might I check if there is a working alarm system? By the way, may see you around the roads of Lincs and the wolds in the spring as I'm a yellowbelly too :-)
Hi Paul. Well lets hope we can have a gathering somewhere in the first half of 2021👍.
The Bubblecar museum keeps popping into my mind as a place with space and that would welcome car mad visitors..
I will have a think about the alarm
@@ToTheGarage cheers John, sounds like a good plan!
Hi holy John, My xk8 (named "DER CATZE") is every day chirping...another question is...what will we do, if there no secrets left of the xk8 ...??? oh my god ??? By the way your Lincolnshire "BRUMMI" accent I ever understand . Because I´m also an Islander. But my accent is like JFK " Ich bin ein Berliner" Have always fun und stay healthy and a big WOOOFF to "good golly" miss MOLLY ! Udo
Thanks Udo. Us islanders can always understand each other. I have asked Miss Molly and she has given me some more secrets of the XK8. So no worries for a while yet.
Very best regards. John
Molly says Woof!
Hi John i have the same issue om my XK 2006 Convertible if i remove this unit can i leave it off without causing any issues. Thanks John
Hi John! Love your videos! These Jags are complicated, Thanks for the dedication. My problem is , when I remove the key.... I hear, Da Da Da Da Da Da Da Da. In the car. It is not that loud. Then it stops. I have a new battery. I use a trickle charger. I have no chirp, but alarm arms. No alarms at night. I leave car unlocked in the garage. Any ideas??? Could it be the part you describe? Intelligent sounder. Same noise as when the ignition is NOT in park. And the key is on. Hope I am clear. I have a 1997 XK8 Coupe. Thank-you! Ben
Hi Ben, Well described re Da Da Da DA🤣
It sounds like the car is not recognising that it is in Park when you remove the key.
Does the P light up red when its in Park? if not then it might be a sticky linear switch under the shifter or the shift cable needs a tiny adjustment.
If it does light up then this is a new one on me.
Hi John-THANKS for getting back. It stopped doing it! Suddenly Stopped! Couldn't be more delighted. Who knows! I LOVE this stunning Coupe, but it haunts me at times like an EX wife. LOVE your videos! I had no idea there were so many details about the XK-8. I have to find the video that uses the foot pedal to reprogram driver type. Fascinating! Thank-you Sir John!
Hi John .... I posted this in an earlier video where you mentioned the problems of being locked out of the boot. This solution looks to be the easiest "get of out jail" card so I'll post it again in case anyone is interested:
Many years ago, I read on the internet a way of drilling a small hole in the XK8 boot floor below the lock through which a piece of wire could be pulled which would be guaranteed to manually release the boot lock in an emergency for those whose battery had gone flat and whose "secret" key method had stopped working or had locked the keys in the boot. I did not try it because my "secret" lock has always worked properly. I'll see if I can find the link to the method.
Found it: www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xk8-xkr-x100-17/emergency-boot-access-79432/
Thanks Richard
good idea .
my license plate bulb does not work fuse good what do you think thanks
My bet would be a break in the wiring where it moves withe the boot/trunk lid hinge.
Now you have asked for it you know Morris marina's everyone knows how to fix a maureeeeeneeahh problem and that car can be fixed with a box of matches , strike match walk away
ooooh Harsh🤣
hi jon and many thanks for your info on the xk8 could you tell me where the paint code is located please
Hi Anthony its on a label in the passengers door jamb and is a three letter code.
@@ToTheGarage thanks Jon and keep the videos coming please
My gosh John who are you hiding from? I barely recognize you with the beard.
Aston Martin Owners.🥺 I said the XK8 was better than the DB7.
They are coming for me 😢
I'd like to own a DB7 too, but maybe after winning the lottery or something.
I have no chirp, I suppose any rechargeable battery is going to be suspect at this age
Its a miracle any of the 'intelligent' sounders are still working in my opinion