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Which is about how it should have gone, according to Marxism. Russians went from being serfs, skipped the Capitalist phase and went straight into the communism part, which is probably part of why so many people died. China did the same thing, but worse.
@Maxwell Kelly They didn't skip capitalism they went to state controlled capitalism And because of paranoia stayed At that particular development Crushing anyone Who wasn't a ml Because of the insane party line As for what communism is communism is a stateless classless society So no more russia no more china no more rich no more poor no more Money
@Maxwell Kelly As for why so many people died russia and china had their own civil war and was Dragging their nation into the modern age Without any help whatsoever from the outside world because they did not recognize The prc or the soviet union as legitimate states Along with their party line and extreme paranoia About capitalist states not that I or anyone else would blame them Like imagine your nation only had Is world war 1 technology This while your nation was getting invaded by Colonial nations While fighting Your provisional government that was doing such a s*** job at running the country That you decided to take s*** into your own hands In order to get out of world war one which was killing millions of your own people And I don't know about you but that seems pretty unfair for a start
the most likely way they did it is by sapping tens of millions of people from the entire french market and being hyper industrialised and relying on france for resources
Are you able to read? It's anarchist Aka: stateless moneyless classless End goal of communism, so really it with a bunch of other great powers was the most communist society of them all.
Everyonee is talking about the absurdly massive economy of Turkmenia, but no one is mentioning how the tiny city-state of Krakow has over 20 million people and over half a billion in GDP, and would be a great power if it wasn't another nation's subject.
One of the few good things about the recent surge of ai advancement is, that we might finally manage to teach one what good borders look like. This is a goddamn mess.
@@hordlood i mean those are not bordergores, these are wrong borders. Bordergore is like as if sweden went at war with china and took half of tibet while the remaining half is badly split between pakistan and china. The catch is all these territories in tibet are exclaves.
@@ZechsMerquise73 Well... afaik it does. But the SU stayed Russia for a long time, meaning it had a low SoL for a long time most likely. Adding reolutions and wars that's most likely why.
@@KVPMD Look at all the other numbers. It's been 600 years and China has only 440M people. I don't know why you guys are saying it's weird the soviet union has a population 3x bigger than Russia now as "tiny"
700 years and the highest gdp is 2 fucking billion. on my first playthrough i exceeded that by 1890 with soviet union. this is just disgusting. props to turkmenia, absolute gigachads
@Kyrie that's mainly because Victoria 3 p much works on straight up economic determinism in politics, which is also the way marx thought. also you know that ai is programmed by human people right?
There are only 4 types of economy in the world: developed nations (rich), developing nations (poor), Japan - nobody knows why it's rich, and Argentina - nobody knows why it's poor. AI Argentina in Vic3: I'm the world's fifth greatest power
Japan is rich because they built up their economy on Production and Technology. Having that kind of economy requires a reliable source of natural resources which they lack, but thanks to their relationship with the USA after WW2 they had access to an enormous amount of resources (from the US and it's allies). The main benefit of their economic model is it it doesn't require a lot of land but requires a lot of moderately-to-well educated people. This is also why Japan invested heavily into it's education system.
@@rightmunted7538 Argentina is poor because they suddenly shifted to a complete social democratic regime that made almost everything in teh country State Owned (pretty much every big country). And so, absurd taxes, corruption and all, led to the mess that is today. And that was not always the case; this regime was actually pretty stable for a while, but was clearly only preparing a disaster. I'm not a fan of liberalism, but it's certain that the liberal government Argentina had before was much, much better for the country.
I was really worry about my country during timelapse then I see our country in green regarding SoL and they are 5th great power with 5 times less population than others.
Marx: Communism will occur in the most industrially advanced nation, likely Germany will be one of the first! Literally Everyone Else, Except Germany: Sounds Great!
cuz more time leads to more industry and more industry lead to more people in the factories, the people in the factories prefer trade unions and trade unions are commonly communist
@@Cecilia-ky3uw Which is, looking into the century 1836-1935, quite realistic. The problem is more about how easy it is for them to really use that power. To focus, no get devided or suffer from outside influence (see the Holy Allience of the time, Prussia, Russia + Austria), bad leaders, the conflicts with the liberals... There's still a lot to do for sure.
I just took Italy’s weekly GDP in 2500 of 2 billion, multiplied it by 52, the number weeks in a year, giving a yearly GDP of 104 billion, which compared to the irl highest GDP of multiple trillions…damn, that’s a pretty poor world
Victoria’s currency is fixed in value though, so you will have to calculate for 664 years of inflation. Accurately predicting the inflation rates for the coming 500 years is as good as impossible. But it will surely be a lot.
Apparently 2 billion in 1836 is 64 billion in 2023 with an average inflation rate of 1.88%. I guess you could calculate that up to another 500 years but that would be speculation.
Weird, when I was playing Japan (on my 5th attempt to get the Shogunate out without going insane) the US had consumed the whole of Mexico and I hadn't even reached the turn of the century.
In my game, Belgium got a GDP commensurate with all of Europe combined, but then for some reason it lost everything and was in fifth place. Has anyone had anything like that?
not hating but I feel like the timelapse is a little too fast, basically every tech in the game should be unlocked by everyone after the first minute of the video. It is a great video though, most people don’t run their timelapses long enough!
Was this a good idea to not wait for the official release? New version just came out today. Also, I think it's too fast of a timelapse for an enjoyable watching. Maybe six or seven minutes would be better? This way 100 years would be destignated for each minute.
I don't think "plausible borders" is high on the priority list. The game is basically Factorio on a Clausewitz engine. If Austria and the Ottomans still share a border in 1936, the underlying mechanics are the game are wrong.
So the gdp, can we take it is bigger than the game shows but just that it isn't adjusted for the length of the game? (like some in the comments said) Apart from that, I will probably buy that game someday (despite the 500€ of planned dlc surely), it makes me feels like playing hoi4 millennium dawn or hoi4 iron curtain cold war and playing economic more than the wargame, or civ5 with lot of mods (for population growth, technology moving with trade, lot of movement of population between countries, borders changing with culture etc) (despite both hoi4 and civ5 not allowing to pass the 2billion (pop and economic) line due to coding limit 😭)
Wouldn't recommend in its current state or the state itll seemingly be in for a long. It's very dry and the economy playing is nigh the same as building mils and civs in HOI4. Every play through is identical
@@VoxinVivo yes, I saw that, anyway I would surely wait December (that year or next) hoping for a real sale on steam. (not - 10% like they did for some dlc and games recently) plus like hoi4, mods are what makes a game good these days. (unless like paradox, you do lot of short updates (to please players thinking paradox doesn't fix any bugs at all, showing they are active on their games, not just dlc milking players) while breaking all mods over and over)
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This only goes to show how passive the AI is. It took them 300 years to form the Soviet Union.
Meanwhile the only non communist great power is Germany pretty much
Atomic Heart irl
Which is about how it should have gone, according to Marxism. Russians went from being serfs, skipped the Capitalist phase and went straight into the communism part, which is probably part of why so many people died. China did the same thing, but worse.
@Maxwell Kelly They didn't skip capitalism they went to state controlled capitalism And because of paranoia stayed At that particular development
Crushing anyone Who wasn't a ml Because of the insane party line
As for what communism is communism is a stateless classless society
So no more russia no more china no more rich no more poor no more Money
@Maxwell Kelly As for why so many people died russia and china had their own civil war and was Dragging their nation into the modern age Without any help whatsoever from the outside world because they did not recognize The prc or the soviet union as legitimate states
Along with their party line and extreme paranoia About capitalist states not that I or anyone else would blame them
Like imagine your nation only had Is world war 1 technology This while your nation was getting invaded by Colonial nations While fighting Your provisional government that was doing such a s*** job at running the country That you decided to take s*** into your own hands In order to get out of world war one which was killing millions of your own people
And I don't know about you but that seems pretty unfair for a start
0:55 the entirety of Mongolia is just everywhere Mongolia isn’t
The giga economy of Turkmenia kills me
nothing can compare to the turkic megacities in the steppe
Всё из-за великого правителя, Гурбангулы Бердымухамедова
That and the Venezuelan standard of living
the most likely way they did it is by sapping tens of millions of people from the entire french market and being hyper industrialised and relying on france for resources
Krakow though
Most amusing to see Italian Tibet and Korea
Germany is literally the only non communist country in Europe lmao
if u pay attention their president is an Anarchist from Trade Union political group so they are not far off
Marx woudl be dissappointed
But they are still led by an Anarchist with a Trade Union Interest Group. About as close to Communism as you can get lmao
Are you able to read? It's anarchist
Aka:
stateless
moneyless
classless
End goal of communism, so really it with a bunch of other great powers was the most communist society of them all.
the game has a clear bias towards socialist policies
even with 700 years the AI can't figure out how to make a border between the US and Canada
They really need to rework colonization
respect
Thank you
@@GeneralPol welcome
Everyonee is talking about the absurdly massive economy of Turkmenia, but no one is mentioning how the tiny city-state of Krakow has over 20 million people and over half a billion in GDP, and would be a great power if it wasn't another nation's subject.
Good point!
😂
Great power argentina was unexpected
Argentina used to be a very successful state. Previously, people even had to choose between moving to Argentina or the USA
Based
@@1Masturbek yes but insofar as argentin goes, irl while it was basically a second midwest, it didnt quite have the US position
Not as unexpected as Bohemia
Atlas Shrug Simulator
this is for real red world in vicky 3
Hopefully the new update will improve things
copium
@@clutrike7956 asking for a better game is a insult for paradox fanboys
I think you mean ＤＬＣ
@@tiago27272 I'm sure 5 years from now we'll have a decent game, after paying 300% it's base price in paid DLC.
@@lucasbrant9856 i love when a complete game is equal to my monthly salary
Venezuela having the best standard of living lmfao
oh oh the irony
Literally real life, wow
gigachad venezuela
Meanwhile: The Japanese hoi4 AI declaring war everywhere against anyone because it wants must and shall get that one city.
😀
Nice to know that Japan gets conquered by France.
😁
i like the piece of italy in the middle of china
😂
0:52 - Pernambuco was once again invaded by the Netherlands! 😵
It's killing me why Turkmenistan had the highest GDP
also venezuela having a SoL of 30 lmao
Now do CKIII until 1936
Here's CK3 for 3 days! ua-cam.com/video/U63GEVuwLdM/v-deo.html
United Syndicates of America💀
They have to be called with their true name somewhere.
0:38 wait, all colonies are british?
They always we're.
were*
1:55 Russia?
I thought France was annexed by the UK at first
phew
Dammit! Russia i was away 3 days!
it is interesting to see, that in a single state there is half a billion gdp, I want to emphasize, what the hell happened in Turkmenia?!
I got close enough to half a billion(new york) in an america game.
They play tall
CyberTurkmenia 2077
There's oil there
Imagine being stuck in the Victorian era for 700 yrs
😬
The good timeline... maybe
@@arhkadian2389 Depends if you would have lived in the industrial area or not 😅
The Slowness that must have been...
I'm surprised that Italy managed to hold onto multiple landlocked colonies in Asia.
Mario’s pipe network does wonders
@@ingkknswn6275 True.
>poland still exists after 700 years
Impressive how these guys like survival
French Tannu Tuva
French Tannu Tuva
One of the few good things about the recent surge of ai advancement is, that we might finally manage to teach one what good borders look like. This is a goddamn mess.
Hook up ChatGPT! 😀
acting like real life didnt have bordergore
@@eoozy2617 still does, look at Latin America or the Balkans
@@hordlood i mean those are not bordergores, these are wrong borders. Bordergore is like as if sweden went at war with china and took half of tibet while the remaining half is badly split between pakistan and china. The catch is all these territories in tibet are exclaves.
sadly that type of AI is not actually great for this.
1:08 eu não aguento, a revolução pernambucana deu certo, Pernambuco se separou do brasil
HOW THE DUCK does Soviet Union have such a TINY population?
Wars
game doesn't simulate exponential population growth
@@ZechsMerquise73 Well... afaik it does. But the SU stayed Russia for a long time, meaning it had a low SoL for a long time most likely. Adding reolutions and wars that's most likely why.
@@KVPMD Look at all the other numbers. It's been 600 years and China has only 440M people. I don't know why you guys are saying it's weird the soviet union has a population 3x bigger than Russia now as "tiny"
@@ZechsMerquise73 it doesn’t even do that? Even Vic2 had that in it
pretty interesting
Paradox try not to make north america border gore 5 second challenge
😂
Communism Simulator 3. This makes regime change wars even funnier though.
Экономическая победа туркменистана
Crazy Argentian
700 years and the highest gdp is 2 fucking billion. on my first playthrough i exceeded that by 1890 with soviet union. this is just disgusting.
props to turkmenia, absolute gigachads
Yeah but its the AI...
@@GeneralPol that's my point. it's braindead
Bro trucial states migrated to Hedjaz from UAE
no way, the standards of living in venezuela are high
the Soviet Union is inevitable
Prison Planet
The AI really doesn’t do anything
What do we learn from this? Anarchist Communes and Council Republics are the best types of government.
Seemingly so...
They're the types of government that the AI pick, which is not high praise.
@Kyrie that's mainly because Victoria 3 p much works on straight up economic determinism in politics, which is also the way marx thought. also you know that ai is programmed by human people right?
This usually happens when you ask beings of pure logic about politics
@@jurygalati5732 Redditors do seem to prefer it.
How did your CPU not melt?
The game is stable enough to not crash at all in those 3 days too?
Ah it ran with no issues, it's a AMD ryzen 9 5900x
@DarkSnake49542 yup no crashes!
@@GeneralPol too bad paradox engine is so bad
@@DarkSnake49542 The AI doesn't like doing decent stuff with it's economy. It's been 600 years and a Germany that big is still at 1.3 billion GDP.
Crazy buryats.
20m population Krakov
I like how Soviet Union spawned in 2400s
Japan be like "look how hard I can do absolutely nothing"
Ah yes Venezuela, the best country to live in
ＲＥＤ ＰＬＡＮＥＴ💀💀
🚩
How is this dudes gpu not fried after running this for 3 days straight
LITHUANIA STAYING STRONG!!!
France 🥇 🇫🇷🇫🇷
culture= country timelapse please with any game
5:07 So my perception that the game encourages being communist is not a lie? lol
Still better borders than Hoi4 😏
😂
idk about africa
I really love this game but how do you play past 100 years?
Spain and Portugal 🗿
为你的电脑祈祷
🤣
There are only 4 types of economy in the world: developed nations (rich), developing nations (poor), Japan - nobody knows why it's rich, and Argentina - nobody knows why it's poor.
AI Argentina in Vic3: I'm the world's fifth greatest power
Well Argentina's only poor because of mismanagement and incompetent governments.
Japan is rich because they built up their economy on Production and Technology. Having that kind of economy requires a reliable source of natural resources which they lack, but thanks to their relationship with the USA after WW2 they had access to an enormous amount of resources (from the US and it's allies). The main benefit of their economic model is it it doesn't require a lot of land but requires a lot of moderately-to-well educated people. This is also why Japan invested heavily into it's education system.
@@rightmunted7538 Being a victim of imperialism with an Economy dependent on the export of resources also does'nt help
@@rightmunted7538 Argentina is poor because they suddenly shifted to a complete social democratic regime that made almost everything in teh country State Owned (pretty much every big country). And so, absurd taxes, corruption and all, led to the mess that is today. And that was not always the case; this regime was actually pretty stable for a while, but was clearly only preparing a disaster. I'm not a fan of liberalism, but it's certain that the liberal government Argentina had before was much, much better for the country.
I was really worry about my country during timelapse then I see our country in green regarding SoL and they are 5th great power with 5 times less population than others.
Marx: Communism will occur in the most industrially advanced nation, likely Germany will be one of the first!
Literally Everyone Else, Except Germany: Sounds Great!
😀
Краков, 11 место и у неё даже нету одного целого региона..
Krakow, 11th place and she doesn't even have one whole region..
Papua New guinea chilling idk why and how
As a Lithuanian, I'm happy to see we're one of the only countries Russia didn't bother to annex.
Это просто игра...
after the ss march in Latvia, Russia will probably come to Latvia soon
@@hbbiyifritdj не говори а, бляха военная политика везде .. :(
@@antonm1834 Просто кто-то захотел возродить советский союз но правого толка и крайне авторитарный.
@@AlexeyManamaster советский союз правого толка
First, why almost all countries become communist? And second, why has nobody yet colonized the colonizable part of Indonesia?
Turkmenistan 😂😂😂 GDP 4:13
It seems global communism was achieved in this video
Took the USA forever to form
swedish politicians dream:
Is anyone else gonna bring up what happened to France?
Soy el comentario en castellano que esperabas
W world 🚩🚩🚩
Why they all communists😅
cuz more time leads to more industry and more industry lead to more people in the factories, the people in the factories prefer trade unions and trade unions are commonly communist
Seems the game subscribes to the Marxist philosophy that communism is inevitable.
Vic3 has a tendency to make trade unions real strong
after 300 years in game everywhere would be hyper industrialized making the trade unions very powerful
@@Cecilia-ky3uw Which is, looking into the century 1836-1935, quite realistic. The problem is more about how easy it is for them to really use that power. To focus, no get devided or suffer from outside influence (see the Holy Allience of the time, Prussia, Russia + Austria), bad leaders, the conflicts with the liberals... There's still a lot to do for sure.
In which patch did you played?
It was patch 1.1.2 - New patch was released the day after I released the video!
@@GeneralPol Gotta do a new one, so we might see the differences. 👀
@@Zigorel Agreed! :)
What’s the small pink tumor in south Australia? Did I see it devour the east coast for a few seconds/years there?
wait how do you make the game not end
Mod
@@SkalliDE what mod genius
In observer mode you are able to continue pat the end date
@@GeneralPol oh cool thanks
Good timelapse, even though in my heart I will always be a Victoria 2 hardliner
>communist
>state religion cotholic
Ah, a communist US...truly a cursed timeline
I've played as the United States at least four times, and still can't purchase Alaska. Russia never seems to need to take out loans.
Even in the year 2550 Brazil still seeks to expand it's plantation economy 😂 C'mon man get with the times
Ah yes. Venezuela, Argentina, Turkmenia and Morocco. The 4 greatest havens of peace and prosperity in the world.
I just took Italy’s weekly GDP in 2500 of 2 billion, multiplied it by 52, the number weeks in a year, giving a yearly GDP of 104 billion, which compared to the irl highest GDP of multiple trillions…damn, that’s a pretty poor world
Victoria’s currency is fixed in value though, so you will have to calculate for 664 years of inflation. Accurately predicting the inflation rates for the coming 500 years is as good as impossible. But it will surely be a lot.
Apparently 2 billion in 1836 is 64 billion in 2023 with an average inflation rate of 1.88%. I guess you could calculate that up to another 500 years but that would be speculation.
@@liverturcxdanpavs
Ah, so that’s 5.3 trillion by 2023 standards, which isn’t that bad.
@@oracle372 I guess this is the world we’re Karl Marx was right
"Multiplied it by 84, the number weeks in a year"
Bruh
Weird, when I was playing Japan (on my 5th attempt to get the Shogunate out without going insane) the US had consumed the whole of Mexico and I hadn't even reached the turn of the century.
Most of my games, the US can't even beat Mexico.
In my game, Belgium got a GDP commensurate with all of Europe combined, but then for some reason it lost everything and was in fifth place. Has anyone had anything like that?
Ya ran a 12 year time loop for over 700 years? Freaky.
So proud for Czechs
I get a kick out of watching internal revolts make up the majority of struggles.
not hating but I feel like the timelapse is a little too fast, basically every tech in the game should be unlocked by everyone after the first minute of the video. It is a great video though, most people don’t run their timelapses long enough!
Yeah, its hard to get right, too slow and people will switch off
The bad timeline
Was this a good idea to not wait for the official release? New version just came out today.
Also, I think it's too fast of a timelapse for an enjoyable watching. Maybe six or seven minutes would be better? This way 100 years would be destignated for each minute.
I had it already recorded :) I hear you on the speed, maybe i'll do another on the update
I don't think "plausible borders" is high on the priority list. The game is basically Factorio on a Clausewitz engine. If Austria and the Ottomans still share a border in 1936, the underlying mechanics are the game are wrong.
@@GeneralPol interesting that most countries turned communist
Mate just lower the video soeed
@@GeneralPol yo what's good
So the gdp, can we take it is bigger than the game shows but just that it isn't adjusted for the length of the game? (like some in the comments said)
Apart from that, I will probably buy that game someday (despite the 500€ of planned dlc surely), it makes me feels like playing hoi4 millennium dawn or hoi4 iron curtain cold war and playing economic more than the wargame, or civ5 with lot of mods (for population growth, technology moving with trade, lot of movement of population between countries, borders changing with culture etc)
(despite both hoi4 and civ5 not allowing to pass the 2billion (pop and economic) line due to coding limit 😭)
Wouldn't recommend in its current state or the state itll seemingly be in for a long. It's very dry and the economy playing is nigh the same as building mils and civs in HOI4. Every play through is identical
@@VoxinVivo yes, I saw that, anyway I would surely wait December (that year or next) hoping for a real sale on steam. (not - 10% like they did for some dlc and games recently) plus like hoi4, mods are what makes a game good these days. (unless like paradox, you do lot of short updates (to please players thinking paradox doesn't fix any bugs at all, showing they are active on their games, not just dlc milking players) while breaking all mods over and over)
It is fake! Prussia does not unite Germany in my games at all! 😂
😂
I don't understand the game victoria 3, but as I understand it, world communism has come.?
Communism
Everywhere!