@@belo398 that's from a commercial standpoint though lol. I mean there's guys out here that have started farming with next to nothing but they didn't fair well because they're around established family farms so they don't get the opportunity to farm large acres. They get the smaller rough patches. But 15k to farm row crops? That's gonna be a really hard road to travel.
@theveteranfarmer6633 ahhh okok, was curious cuz I'm over here in Ontario n alot of farmer's here that I do work for buy used stuff for way less but then put work into to better the equipment n its costed wayyy less so I was just curious
@@belo398 that makes sense to me too. I mean if you've got the means to improve equipment and can save thousands it's a smart move. A $200k tractor with .5 hours on it just to start farming isn't logical lol.
@theveteranfarmer6633 ohhhh absolutely nott aha, and how the dealerships justify there prices on tractor repairs is killing alot of these newer guys with not alot of experience
AGREED. Small scale farming of spices, exotic peppers, flowers and houseplants have been pretty lucrative for me. I am in am Urban area and I am growing in my back yard. Hydroponic lettuce and strawberry CSA's
That is seriously badass! This type of agriculture is so damned cool, especially with myself being an HVAC and Plumbing guy. Some of those hydroponic set ups, and the HVAC systems to support indoor AG is truly industrial Art. The food is also amazing, I say as a primarily plant eating person! I really do wish you very well, and massive luck in your endeavors. Your work may very well help feed the world, and make sure they are properly seasoning their food!
I’ve got my eye on this lot to the north of the town I live in. Towns bustling these days. About to pop up, I can feel it. The land is dogshit, you can’t grow anything non irrigated there, but the land is cheap. $35k for 40 acres. Been thinking about just buying it and tossing a trailer on it and start doing some small scale hydroponics to offset the cost of ownership.
do you not have to pay for some license or certification or something? I always assumed you'd end up paying the state and fed more than you'd end up making.
I grow a variety of extremely hot peppers and we sell the crap out of them close to DC. There are a lot of western Africans in our area and they pay good money for them.
@@dahliahb.7111 real microgreens & mushrooms and other small things like lettuce you can grow large amounts of in small rooms and sell to local restaurants. I’ve seen some people with a good PVC hydroponics kit be able to grow 200-300lbs of lettuce a year by growing it inside their home, it’s not big time but it’s certainly farmers market or local shop ready for someone who likes the hobby.
I’ve always had interest in smaller scale farming with micro greens , mushrooms , and peppers. Do you think those are something you could build an indoor hydroponic setup for? I’m a plumber and me and my girl want to make side money at home. If I could work from home I’d be the happiest man ever.
@@CiCiLeathercraft all of them require different setups to grow but they’re all buildable and scalable to be done however you can handle it. Mushrooms can just be grown in tubs or buckets in the garage with you basically doing and building absolutely nothing lol
I'm 23, have a farm that will produce about 2400lbs per month of production in lions mane and oyster mushrooms. We aren't up to capacity cause I came into some HVAC money and free labor. Really writing this before I'm deep into the fruits of my labor but it's already happening! I'm well below 10k in rn but full capacity would take me to that 15k mark.
@@jtt10315only impediments are what you put on yourself. You can educate others on it while promoting your own product through the videos you make of it
"Urban" Farming is actually a decent way to make a living. A few years back, my buddy and I tilled up about .25 acre of his property, put hoop tents over it in early spring, and started the plants in a heated shed under lights. With miscellaneous greens like lettuce, kale, arugula, as well as peppers, tomatoes, etc... after a couple years he hit 6 figures selling to local restaurants who advertise that the produce is grown locally and organically, which is true. Anything left after the restaurant runs, we take to the farmers market. Really not a bad amount of profit for being located in a town of 12k people. It can be done, it's just a lot of work, a lot of networking, and a lot of determination.
How did y’all heat the shed I know energy cost can run the bill up , unless yall had plenty of disposable income which would make sense , at people are usually very resourceful so I don’t doubt that yall put a lot of work into the infrastructure of that farm. I’m just asking because I’ve heard people say solar is an alternative for green houses I’m just not sure if it’s actually true
chickens ...layers and meat birds. 15 000 would probably go a long way for getting set up. depends how you manage it. if you already have a small rural property... also, goats and other small animals. then grow a huge garden on the side and sell at the farmers market. but realistically, you'll need equipment sooner or later. sell the chicken waste for compost. find a friend to go in on it with you. just make hay and sell hay every year... buy equipment at auctions. farm estate sales... you can find great deals sometimes.
Just make hay??? You live on a different planet to me. Do you know how much equipment you need just to cut, spin and bale hay is, the manpower to do it, the money to build a place to store it if you've not got it etc. If someone is writing in about how to start, they haven't got a rural property already 😂
@BackToNature123 Some guys inherit a small lot of land and don't know how to build a different life.... Anyway is called brain storming. Some towns have by laws against chickens. Some don't. Yes, I do know the equipment needed...honestly old equipment is fairly cheap...if ur in the right place at the right time.
I've never heard anyone say spin hay...lmao. You rake it...and you can Tedder it...but you don't have to use a Tedder. Some land owners are happy to have a farmer lease there land for stumpage on bales of hay. They will more orders let you work the land for cheap or free...just so it doesn't grow back in...so you don't need to own the land always
They missed the point. This needs to be explained every person should know how to start farming the basic foods corn grain potato’s shits not hard. People are ignorant.
@@Dingleberry454 CORN is VERY hard, the amount of nitrogen fertilizer you need to grow decent sized ears in MOST SOILS. Exotic sweet potatos, herbs and houseplants are a pretty good way to start at your local farmers market
The guy answering the question wasn’t really paying attention. And didn’t have very good advice to give. He’s knowledgeable, but the advice fell short.
Yes and no. Mushrooms need a certain level of moisture and humdity to thrive, especially if you ate doing the high ticket ones like lion's mane, shitake, oyster and wine cap. A dark temperature controlled warehouse could be a good idea or a log set up in a shaded backyard area. 🍄
This right here is the reason I follow and watch y’all. You didn’t clown on the question. You have a great response while saying that’s not something your familiar with but point that person in the right direction. Y’all are some good folks thank you for what you’re doing
@@BushLeague_BC Trees that I currently planted are for furniture. I am planning on getting more land and planting nut producing trees, sparsely. Reintroduce cattle for grazing while the trees grow. Slowly start adding wild pigs when the trees start making fruits.
Wish I had 15k when i started! I bought a tractor for a 1000bucks. Borrowed a small grain drill. Charged up my inputs. Bought an old massey combine. Took the crop off and it all worked out.
Market gardening is definitely the way to go. I started off with $5,000 6 years ago gardening in an area the size of a pop-up tent and now I grow over 6 acres of produce and employee five full-time people. It is a very profitable business for my family. I came from a big agriculture background and I can tell you for sure that that's not the way to go. All the other conventional Farmers around me are struggling and meanwhile I have people throwing money at me. I do this all with very little overhead on just a few acres of land.
If you’re planning to row crop corn and soybeans, you’ll need 10x, or $150,000 IMHO. If the budget is 15k, look at small market top price stuff just like they described: microgreens, mushrooms, herbs, plants in demand by florists or decorators, and similar. Perhaps even gourmet peppers or tomatoes or some other variant that chefs and restaurants want.
If you only got $15,000 you need to get in someplace and have your own stand on the side of the road peaches apples pears plums that kind of stuff you can grow and get pretty good quantities after a short amount of time with small areas in the whole lot of money but it's labor-intensive when it rains it pours
Mycelium mushrooms are worth it if u have not alot of capital, just need to work hard and put all ur effort into it. Im doing this also, dont even need a huge place like a warehouse.
On the upside if you make a few strong liquid cultures and agar dishes, you can upscale very rapidly by a handful of methods that are exponential in and of themselves. LC to grain, grain to grain, and then grain to bulk substrate. If i didnt live in a high altitude arid desert climate it would be very feasable for me to get into it.
That’s exactly what me and my dad used to the penny to start our strawberry business 2 1/2 years ago. I started with 8 acres and a Old Massey Ferguson. We made $125,000 that strawberry season and the rest is history. As long as your soil composition is good, you can yield strawberries as long as the weather and season permits.
Been watching you guys for quite sometime. I really like the authenticity of what you share. I am primarily focused on alternative and smaller scale ag, but the way we help new and aspiring farmers and growers is by keeping all options on the table and focusing on developing a context, or set of goals, and then sorting through the forest of options to find what works ofr them. I know you guys are focused on systems that minimize labour, and I really appreciate that. Keep up the great work!
Well, I live in Manitoba Canada, I’m 12 years old and my grandmother owns 30 acres of land that we rent out to another farmer. I’ve been saving up money for 3 years I’ve been working really hard and I’ve racked up $5.000 and I’m starting to look for equipment, because I just want to start hobby farming until I’m old enough to go big, I’ve found a perfect condition co-op combine, I’ve found an old versatile 400 swather, some old Massey diskers for seeding and a international vibra chisel plow all for $4.600 dollars. By next summer rolls around I’ll probably have some peas in the dirt. P.s I already have tractors and my uncle farms grain for seed so I’m sure I can get a good deal with him for my first year to second year farming
You should do an interview there's this new farm in Florida first of its kind in the USA they have like 300 acres and grow what called kratom a type of green tea, apparently its a pretty big deal that many of the orange groves failing plan to convert to kratom as well. The place is called Miami botany
Urban agriculture and small market gardening is so much easier with way less overhead costs. And if you know how to market yourself to the correct buyer, you can easily make 6 figures with the same work hours as a 9-5 job. I’m literally starting to Wade into it as a side gig right now.
A small plot and some elephant garlic isn't a bad place to start. At least you will find out if you can farm or not. You could do a half acre with standard gardening equipment. You will probably have to only plant a quarter acre to start because it's expensive. A half acre will net about 400 to 1000 lbs at approx $10-15 a lb
these guys were the wrong guys to ask, but they did get around to the truth that you can do stuff with 15k, it just aint common among Iowa rowcroppers.
15k disposable and if you gotta little gamble you could buy a livestock trailer, take it into a state where steer calves are generally low. Buy as many light calves as possible drive them overnight to a sale barn in an area with higher prices ie iowa kansas nebraska and sell them higher the very next day. You can make around 10 to 20 dollars more per 100 pounds lbs. Then repeat. Boom youre in agriculture. Dont do thisnif 15k would break you also dont do it if you have kids and a family
Nah you could actually move some where struggle live off the grid me personally I would start with chickens 🐓 and work my way up to cow chickens and pigs 🐖 in the beginning selling locally to friends and family 😂
I’m not a farmer ! But I find all the information about farming very interesting and like the work you guys are doing keep the information coming thanks .
yeah diversification of your products can lead to natural crop insurance as you'll still have other options to sell and while row planting is great an all for fast harvesting large quantities with tractors and combines the vertical integration especially with efficient rows paths and breaks every so often for cross paths your main cost will be in shelving but just pre dig some topsoil for those planters and away you go
Sounds like someone should start growing cannabis to me. In my state all you need is a fence and a lock to start growing legally. You can do several crops during the growing season and net a couple pounds of cured product with each crop. Not a bad side hustle to get started with.
My cousin is in the process of starting a marijuana farm and the amount of red tape is ridiculous, like two different branches of government gave him multiple different answers for the same thing (we're in Canada BTW)
I heard a thing a while back that in Arizona to start a MJ farm, the minimum estimated cost (because of red tape obviously) was around $50 million. Not 5. 50. To START.
@@tatebrown5733 there's gotta be more to that story. Where i live (ct) to open a weed store, the application to the state is about 20k, and its not refundable, even if you don't get approved. Least thats what someone i know who tried told me. Even that sounded ridiculous to me. But 50m? For what exactly? To buy everything, including land, to match an already established/producing place? Id like to hear more about this.
Man i live in Colorado which legalized bith medical and recreational marijuana, and the red tape surrounding homegrows is even ludicrous. You've still gotta worry about federal crackdowns, on top of state regulations, county, city, and sub municipality regulations too boot. My town and county for instance allows homegrows, but it is banned for both indoor and outdoor grows in a manner of speaking. Cant grow it indoors in a dwelling, but you can build a seperate indoor structure detached from the dwelling no more than 100² ft which then has to be permitted as a structure, with a handful of additional electric and fire code stipulations specific to grow ops as well as filtered ventilation. But if you want to grow outdoors you cant be within city limits, and still have to build a non transparent structure that is higher than your tallest plant from all four sides and no larger than 100² ft in area. And i haven't even gotten to the plant count! Cant have any more than 12 in aggregate or six per person per household, and of those plants only so many are allowed to be in the flowering stage at a time (which kinda makes outdoors unfeasable because the natural light cycle triggers flowering). Theres some other stuff about how close it can be to other dwellings and property lines and public easments, cant even store fertilizers in the garage away from the grow area and stiff like that. I cant even imagine the red tape and cost behind a commercial grow... almost feels like a fever dream more than a cash crop.
Depending on your area the USDA is offering financial help to first generation farmers to help you get started. I believe if you're a minority or of the female gender they offer substantially more. It's something I've been looking into to get started on a small cattle/sheep ranch. It's something I plan on doing alongside my electrician career.
Well this idea depends on where you are but if you have a little nack for selling and a little experience. You can make good money on small square baled hay. And you can buy some half descent equipment for that money. Once you get things going you can update your equipment and get more ground. Around me we have been see $6 to $7 for squares and as much as $85 for round bales. A little planning and you can sell it right off the wagon.
The secret to life is have low expenses. Having a high margine product with lower expenses is how to do it. There's a guy doing a pick-you-own pumpkin patch and a corn maze. Dude is leasing like 5 acres or something and making a killing. Low labor, a tent for the month of Oct. Used equipment. Leasing to food trucks. What do I know though, I'm 4MM in debt.
i work on a farm and my coworker is always tryna preach to me that microgreens use alot of soil but youd be using that much soil everytime u transplant tour seedlings before the hit the ground. and then theres amendments you gotta out in the ground.. micros def the way to go!!
I've started farming less than 12k caf. I do custom hay work aswell as breeding poultry. Paid $4200 cad for a jd 2120 and despite me inheriting most of my other equipment I could still buy most of it for less
Myco, selling psychedelics in places they're legal is a cash cow. You can grow tens of pounds in a closet for a thousand dollars, and retail is 10/g. So 5kg is 5000g
You would probably be a small time operator with $15,000 you might be able to get 4400 or 6600 or something like that for a combine and then get a old tractor and probably some used equipment
Took an interesting direction but I feel like the question was a bit more literal for me. Like what tractor and planter and tiller would you buy on a budget typa thing. Kinda how Donut Media does their “Cars under $xyz”
Dark Harvest Farms here in Clayton, NC is one I know of. I definitely think you all give some impressive advice, I think you all are dialed in on your guesses on how to start with such a small financial investment.
$15k in western Iowa would get you a decent hay setup. Used square baler $1500, Farmall letter series $500/$1500, hay rake $350, sickle mower $350, hay rack $500. Lots of small grass pieces that can be had for share crop. Several DNR contracts on alfalfa fields 40 acres is under $5000 for the year. Small squares are selling for $8/$12 average plenty of work but very cheap starting off.
Thinking farming in two dimensional is like thinking smart phones are only good for using a calculator, a flashlight and a talking device. Three dimensional farming is so simple that there might be a conspiracy theory behind the wheel keeping it from dominating the game.
It all depends on what is grown and where like outside vs indoor big difference it matters bc like urbers are lighter then corn but look how long corn grows have to come up with a plan to get money all year if not make as much as possible before the seasons change
Does hydroponics and vertical farming rely on to much water? I know there’s drip irrigation for growing things outside I’m just wondering if vertical farming can survive a water shortage of any sort , of course that would effect everyone
Heard tell of a farmer in El Centro that made more money from a 5 acre plot that he worked with one hand, than the rest of the farm growing alfalfa and whatnot. He had onsite refrigeration and sold straight to an outfit in Japan. They would come out and routinely insect the operation. Must have been sweet.
I mean a walk behind roto tiller a small green house like 10x20 and a half acre to 1 acre garden will grow a shitload of produce and could even make a living with a budget like that if you live in an area where you don't need irrigation
Urban indoor farming equipment, overhead and other upfront costs are vastly more expensive than outdoor farming of any kind. Unless its mushrooms due to the lack of lighting and costly environmental control equipment when generating volatile environments that comes with indoor lighting.
it has become a growing thesis of mine that, the Midwest should grow the staple crops, the south east should focus on the more labor intensive low yield crops, and the rest of the states should basically seek to supplement but not dominate the market.
Baling. And don't be a push over for the cost for the bales. Value your time. Figure out how much your time is worth, cost of fuel, machine maintenance, how many hours it takes to mow, tedder, rake, bale, and load. Then however any bales you get, divide that buy how much money your time and effort is worth, plus expenses and that is how much you should start to charge per bale.
If they own the land, even a smaller plot, they can start with a large garden of crop. Build on it. They'll make money, it'll take some time to expand but it's doable.
You could start a good home stead. I think there is a difference between farming and industrial agriculture. And industrial ag is where 15k just won’t cut it lol.
I recently read an article about a man who raises crickets to be frd to chickens. He stsrted with $500 and after 10 years is esrning $160,000 per month. Thats a hell of a lot less than I needed to start my cow/calf operation and a hell of a lot kore thsn I make doing it.
plants are a good source of income weather you grow micro-greens in a tower or maintain the plants at an eternal gravesite ... theres plants and or plant maintenance everywhere you look. even starting smaller and sell fresh herbs at a restaurants back door it all can be done to turn plants into money ...imo
Best way is to start working at a farm, get to know the family really well, then wait for them to retire and work out a deal to buy it from them. Not sure how anyone starts farming from scratch anymore unless they are already rich and the farming is just for fun….
What about hay? I’ve found plenty of sickle mowers for 1500 and windrowers for 1200 and bailers for 2000 so that leaves a couple thousand for a old tractor
Start with something that generates a cashflow. Build on that. Invest cashflow in equity or in something that adds value to the basic farming. Build on that and then when youve got enough, just keep doing chickens!
everyone argues "start in niche" and I really have to agree. some foods u just can't find at all or they're extremely expensive. if you're good, you'll soon have a whole local ethnic community buying from you
15k in Central Indiana will get you a 2 row planter a beat up Kubota and a garden hoe. Good luck son! 😂
That's pretty sad😂
@@belo398 that's from a commercial standpoint though lol. I mean there's guys out here that have started farming with next to nothing but they didn't fair well because they're around established family farms so they don't get the opportunity to farm large acres. They get the smaller rough patches. But 15k to farm row crops? That's gonna be a really hard road to travel.
@theveteranfarmer6633 ahhh okok, was curious cuz I'm over here in Ontario n alot of farmer's here that I do work for buy used stuff for way less but then put work into to better the equipment n its costed wayyy less so I was just curious
@@belo398 that makes sense to me too. I mean if you've got the means to improve equipment and can save thousands it's a smart move. A $200k tractor with .5 hours on it just to start farming isn't logical lol.
@theveteranfarmer6633 ohhhh absolutely nott aha, and how the dealerships justify there prices on tractor repairs is killing alot of these newer guys with not alot of experience
AGREED. Small scale farming of spices, exotic peppers, flowers and houseplants have been pretty lucrative for me. I am in am Urban area and I am growing in my back yard. Hydroponic lettuce and strawberry CSA's
That is seriously badass! This type of agriculture is so damned cool, especially with myself being an HVAC and Plumbing guy. Some of those hydroponic set ups, and the HVAC systems to support indoor AG is truly industrial Art. The food is also amazing, I say as a primarily plant eating person!
I really do wish you very well, and massive luck in your endeavors. Your work may very well help feed the world, and make sure they are properly seasoning their food!
Living my dream!
I’ve got my eye on this lot to the north of the town I live in.
Towns bustling these days. About to pop up, I can feel it.
The land is dogshit, you can’t grow anything non irrigated there, but the land is cheap. $35k for 40 acres. Been thinking about just buying it and tossing a trailer on it and start doing some small scale hydroponics to offset the cost of ownership.
do you not have to pay for some license or certification or something? I always assumed you'd end up paying the state and fed more than you'd end up making.
I grow a variety of extremely hot peppers and we sell the crap out of them close to DC. There are a lot of western Africans in our area and they pay good money for them.
Step 1: be richer. What a great fuckin help these guys are.
They arent rich. Theyre up to their earlobes in debt and government contracts 😂
Oh yeah! You could do microgreens and mushrooms from $15k for sure and those are profitable especially in cities
Wait, like microgreens and mushrooms?
Or like, "microgreens" and "mushrooms" ?
@@dahliahb.7111 real microgreens & mushrooms and other small things like lettuce you can grow large amounts of in small rooms and sell to local restaurants. I’ve seen some people with a good PVC hydroponics kit be able to grow 200-300lbs of lettuce a year by growing it inside their home, it’s not big time but it’s certainly farmers market or local shop ready for someone who likes the hobby.
@@dahliahb.7111mao both actually. But microgreens aren't bud and mushrooms aren't just psilocybin. But most ppl who do it I know do both
I’ve always had interest in smaller scale farming with micro greens , mushrooms , and peppers. Do you think those are something you could build an indoor hydroponic setup for? I’m a plumber and me and my girl want to make side money at home. If I could work from home I’d be the happiest man ever.
@@CiCiLeathercraft all of them require different setups to grow but they’re all buildable and scalable to be done however you can handle it. Mushrooms can just be grown in tubs or buckets in the garage with you basically doing and building absolutely nothing lol
I'm 23, have a farm that will produce about 2400lbs per month of production in lions mane and oyster mushrooms. We aren't up to capacity cause I came into some HVAC money and free labor. Really writing this before I'm deep into the fruits of my labor but it's already happening! I'm well below 10k in rn but full capacity would take me to that 15k mark.
You could double your income if you document it all on a social media channel
@nczioox1116 man I really need to try. I just feel weird making a page about myself because there's no way I could just document the mushroom farm.
@@jtt10315only impediments are what you put on yourself. You can educate others on it while promoting your own product through the videos you make of it
Good job man so yeah I like to buy some lion's mane all the old people in my life they need it they're so forgetful
stop the cap
"Urban" Farming is actually a decent way to make a living.
A few years back, my buddy and I tilled up about .25 acre of his property, put hoop tents over it in early spring, and started the plants in a heated shed under lights.
With miscellaneous greens like lettuce, kale, arugula, as well as peppers, tomatoes, etc... after a couple years he hit 6 figures selling to local restaurants who advertise that the produce is grown locally and organically, which is true.
Anything left after the restaurant runs, we take to the farmers market.
Really not a bad amount of profit for being located in a town of 12k people.
It can be done, it's just a lot of work, a lot of networking, and a lot of determination.
How did y’all heat the shed I know energy cost can run the bill up , unless yall had plenty of disposable income which would make sense , at people are usually very resourceful so I don’t doubt that yall put a lot of work into the infrastructure of that farm. I’m just asking because I’ve heard people say solar is an alternative for green houses I’m just not sure if it’s actually true
@@TryshroomI have solar on my house, and I'm not impressed at all.
chickens ...layers and meat birds.
15 000 would probably go a long way for getting set up.
depends how you manage it.
if you already have a small rural property...
also, goats and other small animals.
then grow a huge garden on the side and sell at the farmers market.
but realistically, you'll need equipment sooner or later.
sell the chicken waste for compost.
find a friend to go in on it with you.
just make hay and sell hay every year...
buy equipment at auctions.
farm estate sales...
you can find great deals sometimes.
Bro, you could sell a ton of natural eggs every day.
Agree 💯. After 4 years and rhe laying hens slow down you can process and dehydrate to sell DOG TREATS and in the spring sell the baby chicks 🐣.
Just make hay??? You live on a different planet to me. Do you know how much equipment you need just to cut, spin and bale hay is, the manpower to do it, the money to build a place to store it if you've not got it etc. If someone is writing in about how to start, they haven't got a rural property already 😂
@BackToNature123
Some guys inherit a small lot of land and don't know how to build a different life....
Anyway is called brain storming.
Some towns have by laws against chickens.
Some don't.
Yes, I do know the equipment needed...honestly old equipment is fairly cheap...if ur in the right place at the right time.
I've never heard anyone say spin hay...lmao.
You rake it...and you can Tedder it...but you don't have to use a Tedder.
Some land owners are happy to have a farmer lease there land for stumpage on bales of hay.
They will more orders let you work the land for cheap or free...just so it doesn't grow back in...so you don't need to own the land always
Yeah that's why you don't large scale farm at first. If you can't handle a garden you can't farm 😂
They missed the point. This needs to be explained every person should know how to start farming the basic foods corn grain potato’s shits not hard. People are ignorant.
@@Dingleberry454 CORN is VERY hard, the amount of nitrogen fertilizer you need to grow decent sized ears in MOST SOILS. Exotic sweet potatos, herbs and houseplants are a pretty good way to start at your local farmers market
The guy answering the question wasn’t really paying attention. And didn’t have very good advice to give. He’s knowledgeable, but the advice fell short.
@@jacobpalomino96 well obviously... if I asked you to describe a cat and you described a dog.. because cats don't bark... its the same as what he did.
“If I have $15,000 in my bank, how do I start farming?”
“You don’t”
Buy a land at a 3rd world country and farm there maybe?
@@jacksbob8746good call
Come from one of those 15k does buy a backyard
@@jacksbob8746 Oh god no. Maybe for a vacation but I’m already used to living in America. That’d be one serious adjustment.
@@jacksbob8746you dont Buy shit with 15k in 3rd World neither farming is expensive here too
idk why y’all come up in my feed so much but i’m here for it lol. growing mushrooms is pretty easy, i imagine much easier than growing plants
Except it’s not easy. And space is expensive in the city. Y’all really having fun saying nothing.
@@notcosteffective9920 lol 🍄 u mad?
Yes and no. Mushrooms need a certain level of moisture and humdity to thrive, especially if you ate doing the high ticket ones like lion's mane, shitake, oyster and wine cap. A dark temperature controlled warehouse could be a good idea or a log set up in a shaded backyard area. 🍄
The setup is much much more difficult, but the yields are absolutely astronomical for the space used. They just keep growing lol.
This right here is the reason I follow and watch y’all. You didn’t clown on the question. You have a great response while saying that’s not something your familiar with but point that person in the right direction. Y’all are some good folks thank you for what you’re doing
I plant trees.
My kids can cash in the results.
That's very thoughtful of you, thanks! I needed some firewood
Plant pecans, they're my favorite, I also like figs, cherry, pomegranate etc
@@BushLeague_BC Trees that I currently planted are for furniture.
I am planning on getting more land and planting nut producing trees, sparsely. Reintroduce cattle for grazing while the trees grow. Slowly start adding wild pigs when the trees start making fruits.
Wish I had 15k when i started! I bought a tractor for a 1000bucks. Borrowed a small grain drill. Charged up my inputs. Bought an old massey combine. Took the crop off and it all worked out.
Market gardening is definitely the way to go. I started off with $5,000 6 years ago gardening in an area the size of a pop-up tent and now I grow over 6 acres of produce and employee five full-time people. It is a very profitable business for my family. I came from a big agriculture background and I can tell you for sure that that's not the way to go. All the other conventional Farmers around me are struggling and meanwhile I have people throwing money at me. I do this all with very little overhead on just a few acres of land.
May I ask the name of your farm I’d love to reach out to you if that’s cool
If you’re planning to row crop corn and soybeans, you’ll need 10x, or $150,000 IMHO. If the budget is 15k, look at small market top price stuff just like they described: microgreens, mushrooms, herbs, plants in demand by florists or decorators, and similar. Perhaps even gourmet peppers or tomatoes or some other variant that chefs and restaurants want.
If you only got $15,000 you need to get in someplace and have your own stand on the side of the road peaches apples pears plums that kind of stuff you can grow and get pretty good quantities after a short amount of time with small areas in the whole lot of money but it's labor-intensive when it rains it pours
Need land for that
@@CAPDude44 how much land do you need that's the question 1000 acres for 1 tree? If you have a yard you have enough land to grow trees and sell fruit.
I love that they actually do say they don’t know enough about it. These are some honest hard working Americans
Lol
Mycelium mushrooms are worth it if u have not alot of capital, just need to work hard and put all ur effort into it. Im doing this also, dont even need a huge place like a warehouse.
On the upside if you make a few strong liquid cultures and agar dishes, you can upscale very rapidly by a handful of methods that are exponential in and of themselves. LC to grain, grain to grain, and then grain to bulk substrate.
If i didnt live in a high altitude arid desert climate it would be very feasable for me to get into it.
That’s exactly what me and my dad used to the penny to start our strawberry business 2 1/2 years ago. I started with 8 acres and a Old Massey Ferguson.
We made $125,000 that strawberry season and the rest is history. As long as your soil composition is good, you can yield strawberries as long as the weather and season permits.
Can charge people to go pick ‘em themselves as well lol
@@CameUpOffDown we are actually building a pick it yourself field right now. Putting up fence post and a nice small metal pole barn.
Been watching you guys for quite sometime. I really like the authenticity of what you share. I am primarily focused on alternative and smaller scale ag, but the way we help new and aspiring farmers and growers is by keeping all options on the table and focusing on developing a context, or set of goals, and then sorting through the forest of options to find what works ofr them. I know you guys are focused on systems that minimize labour, and I really appreciate that. Keep up the great work!
$15,000? Start a pasture raised pig or chicken farm. You could rent ground, build enclosures, and buy animals for that.
A man could win the lottery and blow it all farming. Vegas ain't got shit on a big green dealership.
Well, I live in Manitoba Canada, I’m 12 years old and my grandmother owns 30 acres of land that we rent out to another farmer. I’ve been saving up money for 3 years I’ve been working really hard and I’ve racked up $5.000 and I’m starting to look for equipment, because I just want to start hobby farming until I’m old enough to go big, I’ve found a perfect condition co-op combine, I’ve found an old versatile 400 swather, some old Massey diskers for seeding and a international vibra chisel plow all for $4.600 dollars. By next summer rolls around I’ll probably have some peas in the dirt. P.s I already have tractors and my uncle farms grain for seed so I’m sure I can get a good deal with him for my first year to second year farming
I got a kick out of the small generational difference there when they said,
"To the chalkboard!"
and young guy said,
"Yeah, we need a whiteboard."
You should do an interview there's this new farm in Florida first of its kind in the USA they have like 300 acres and grow what called kratom a type of green tea, apparently its a pretty big deal that many of the orange groves failing plan to convert to kratom as well. The place is called Miami botany
Urban agriculture and small market gardening is so much easier with way less overhead costs. And if you know how to market yourself to the correct buyer, you can easily make 6 figures with the same work hours as a 9-5 job. I’m literally starting to Wade into it as a side gig right now.
My dad started a row crop farm with under 10k and we now have a pretty solid operation and we are still growing!
A small plot and some elephant garlic isn't a bad place to start. At least you will find out if you can farm or not. You could do a half acre with standard gardening equipment. You will probably have to only plant a quarter acre to start because it's expensive. A half acre will net about 400 to 1000 lbs at approx $10-15 a lb
these guys were the wrong guys to ask, but they did get around to the truth that you can do stuff with 15k, it just aint common among Iowa rowcroppers.
15k disposable and if you gotta little gamble you could buy a livestock trailer, take it into a state where steer calves are generally low. Buy as many light calves as possible drive them overnight to a sale barn in an area with higher prices ie iowa kansas nebraska and sell them higher the very next day. You can make around 10 to 20 dollars more per 100 pounds lbs. Then repeat. Boom youre in agriculture. Dont do thisnif 15k would break you also dont do it if you have kids and a family
Grow garden crops like sweet corn or other vegetables. Would have to be a side gig for a while but you could expand over time.
So unless daddy ain't paid for it don't even try?
I mean, that's what essentially family owned farms are. They usually go back generations.
That or take out a massive loan.
Nah you could actually move some where struggle live off the grid me personally I would start with chickens 🐓 and work my way up to cow chickens and pigs 🐖 in the beginning selling locally to friends and family 😂
I’m not a farmer ! But I find all the information about farming very interesting and like the work you guys are doing keep the information coming thanks .
You can benefit from agricultural investment without owning a farm land
@@MillieFalcone. how would that be possible?
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yeah diversification of your products can lead to natural crop insurance as you'll still have other options to sell and while row planting is great an all for fast harvesting large quantities with tractors and combines the vertical integration especially with efficient rows paths and breaks every so often for cross paths your main cost will be in shelving but just pre dig some topsoil for those planters and away you go
15k will get you a really cool backyard setup.
Thats y i rock with yall so hard 💯💪🏿
Sounds like someone should start growing cannabis to me. In my state all you need is a fence and a lock to start growing legally. You can do several crops during the growing season and net a couple pounds of cured product with each crop. Not a bad side hustle to get started with.
My cousin is in the process of starting a marijuana farm and the amount of red tape is ridiculous, like two different branches of government gave him multiple different answers for the same thing (we're in Canada BTW)
I heard a thing a while back that in Arizona to start a MJ farm, the minimum estimated cost (because of red tape obviously) was around $50 million. Not 5. 50. To START.
@@tatebrown5733 there's gotta be more to that story. Where i live (ct) to open a weed store, the application to the state is about 20k, and its not refundable, even if you don't get approved. Least thats what someone i know who tried told me. Even that sounded ridiculous to me.
But 50m? For what exactly? To buy everything, including land, to match an already established/producing place? Id like to hear more about this.
Absolute worst time to get into this. Prices have plummeted. Almost makes it impossible unless he’s growing trash.
@@MechanicalMafioso I believe he's going to be growing for other clients
Man i live in Colorado which legalized bith medical and recreational marijuana, and the red tape surrounding homegrows is even ludicrous. You've still gotta worry about federal crackdowns, on top of state regulations, county, city, and sub municipality regulations too boot.
My town and county for instance allows homegrows, but it is banned for both indoor and outdoor grows in a manner of speaking. Cant grow it indoors in a dwelling, but you can build a seperate indoor structure detached from the dwelling no more than 100² ft which then has to be permitted as a structure, with a handful of additional electric and fire code stipulations specific to grow ops as well as filtered ventilation. But if you want to grow outdoors you cant be within city limits, and still have to build a non transparent structure that is higher than your tallest plant from all four sides and no larger than 100² ft in area. And i haven't even gotten to the plant count! Cant have any more than 12 in aggregate or six per person per household, and of those plants only so many are allowed to be in the flowering stage at a time (which kinda makes outdoors unfeasable because the natural light cycle triggers flowering). Theres some other stuff about how close it can be to other dwellings and property lines and public easments, cant even store fertilizers in the garage away from the grow area and stiff like that.
I cant even imagine the red tape and cost behind a commercial grow... almost feels like a fever dream more than a cash crop.
Marry a farmers daughter...
Depending on your area the USDA is offering financial help to first generation farmers to help you get started. I believe if you're a minority or of the female gender they offer substantially more. It's something I've been looking into to get started on a small cattle/sheep ranch. It's something I plan on doing alongside my electrician career.
DID. It's now considered unconditional to give someone more benefits base on skin color and gender. Ruled was 2 days ago from this comment.
@@coffeebreak4888thats litt but theyre still gonna find ways to be racist
I’m glad you guys say “hey we don’t know much about this but it may work better for you” smart people know when they don’t know things.
This video is the IRL demonstration of "regulatory capture"
Well this idea depends on where you are but if you have a little nack for selling and a little experience. You can make good money on small square baled hay. And you can buy some half descent equipment for that money. Once you get things going you can update your equipment and get more ground. Around me we have been see $6 to $7 for squares and as much as $85 for round bales. A little planning and you can sell it right off the wagon.
I am pretty sure I started farming under 15,000 only on my second year but can be done just need to go about it smart and slowly
This made me tear up badly, its so sad and sweet.
Lol sounds a lot like the old racing joke. “How do you make a million bucks in racing?” “Start with three.”
Uh,um,your buddy might have wanted that to be just “amongst friends”….or he’s the master of fungi
The secret to life is have low expenses. Having a high margine product with lower expenses is how to do it. There's a guy doing a pick-you-own pumpkin patch and a corn maze. Dude is leasing like 5 acres or something and making a killing. Low labor, a tent for the month of Oct. Used equipment. Leasing to food trucks. What do I know though, I'm 4MM in debt.
i work on a farm and my coworker is always tryna preach to me that microgreens use alot of soil but youd be using that much soil everytime u transplant tour seedlings before the hit the ground. and then theres amendments you gotta out in the ground.. micros def the way to go!!
Farm humans for our vampire overlord 😂
I love the difference of casually saying chalk board then white board 🤣😭
15k starts a very nice garden 👌
I've started farming less than 12k caf. I do custom hay work aswell as breeding poultry. Paid $4200 cad for a jd 2120 and despite me inheriting most of my other equipment I could still buy most of it for less
Myco, selling psychedelics in places they're legal is a cash cow.
You can grow tens of pounds in a closet for a thousand dollars, and retail is 10/g. So 5kg is 5000g
You would probably be a small time operator with $15,000 you might be able to get 4400 or 6600 or something like that for a combine and then get a old tractor and probably some used equipment
Took an interesting direction but I feel like the question was a bit more literal for me. Like what tractor and planter and tiller would you buy on a budget typa thing. Kinda how Donut Media does their “Cars under $xyz”
Dark Harvest Farms here in Clayton, NC is one I know of. I definitely think you all give some impressive advice, I think you all are dialed in on your guesses on how to start with such a small financial investment.
I know a little about a warehouse that is used to grow mushrooms. Cost them about $160 mil I believe to build it.
$15k in western Iowa would get you a decent hay setup. Used square baler $1500, Farmall letter series $500/$1500, hay rake $350, sickle mower $350, hay rack $500. Lots of small grass pieces that can be had for share crop. Several DNR contracts on alfalfa fields 40 acres is under $5000 for the year. Small squares are selling for $8/$12 average plenty of work but very cheap starting off.
Look up Curtis Stone. He/s been small scale farming for a while at leased a decade . His book The urban farm.
Pastured broilers, grassfed stocker cows, micro greens, feeder pigs
Thinking farming in two dimensional is like thinking smart phones are only good for using a calculator, a flashlight and a talking device. Three dimensional farming is so simple that there might be a conspiracy theory behind the wheel keeping it from dominating the game.
If you already have an extra room or garage. You can grow over $100,000 of microgreens or mushrooms per year with around $15,000 start up cost
I have a question about the guy that's growing mushrooms is that the ones you eat or the ones you smoke
Good point, tjanks for the idea.
It all depends on what is grown and where like outside vs indoor big difference it matters bc like urbers are lighter then corn but look how long corn grows have to come up with a plan to get money all year if not make as much as possible before the seasons change
As someone whos not from a family thats done farming for a few generations where would you get the money to get started?
Herbs, spices, microfauna, and mushrooms great low cost set ups. Hydroponics have tonnes of hidden costs, vehicle farming is like a 100k set up.
I grow mushrooms too. 😋
The shower doesnt count😂
Does hydroponics and vertical farming rely on to much water?
I know there’s drip irrigation for growing things outside
I’m just wondering if vertical farming can survive a water shortage of any sort , of course that would effect everyone
Hmm... I will grow cheese in my apartment now!!!
😂you already are 😮
Heard tell of a farmer in El Centro that made more money from a 5 acre plot that he worked with one hand, than the rest of the farm growing alfalfa and whatnot. He had onsite refrigeration and sold straight to an outfit in Japan. They would come out and routinely insect the operation. Must have been sweet.
I mean a walk behind roto tiller a small green house like 10x20 and a half acre to 1 acre garden will grow a shitload of produce and could even make a living with a budget like that if you live in an area where you don't need irrigation
The market is getting pretty saturated. You’ll go to a farmers market as see 4+ stands all doing micro greens.
Micro greens mushrooms or cater towards a small business like a resteraunt or organic store.
You start with good old Mary Jane 😂
Start growing weed. Set up a hydroponic set up in your basement.
Take the 15k, buy an 80k Ford, get 160k loan, start farming, then complain how hard it is to make payments
Urban indoor farming equipment, overhead and other upfront costs are vastly more expensive than outdoor farming of any kind. Unless its mushrooms due to the lack of lighting and costly environmental control equipment when generating volatile environments that comes with indoor lighting.
it has become a growing thesis of mine that, the Midwest should grow the staple crops, the south east should focus on the more labor intensive low yield crops, and the rest of the states should basically seek to supplement but not dominate the market.
Mushrooms that’s not farming; That’s dealing
Cheap old mower, wind rower, trailer and a small cheap bailer, all second hand. And your car with a tow-bar
Baling. And don't be a push over for the cost for the bales. Value your time. Figure out how much your time is worth, cost of fuel, machine maintenance, how many hours it takes to mow, tedder, rake, bale, and load. Then however any bales you get, divide that buy how much money your time and effort is worth, plus expenses and that is how much you should start to charge per bale.
How many farmers grow their own food?
Joel Salatin, Greg Judy, curtis Stone
Micro greens. Or selling starter plants every spring
If they own the land, even a smaller plot, they can start with a large garden of crop. Build on it. They'll make money, it'll take some time to expand but it's doable.
You could start a good home stead. I think there is a difference between farming and industrial agriculture. And industrial ag is where 15k just won’t cut it lol.
I've been working on this idea of mine for almost a year and I think you guys and your connections could actually kick this thing off.
I recently read an article about a man who raises crickets to be frd to chickens. He stsrted with $500 and after 10 years is esrning $160,000 per month. Thats a hell of a lot less than I needed to start my cow/calf operation and a hell of a lot kore thsn I make doing it.
I would recommend every high schooler interested in farming joins FFA opens up a lot of opportunities
Whiley coyote moment...
Pull out the board
Y’all need to get Ray Tyler of Rose Creek Farms on your show!
How do I find land in Oklahoma to lease for raising pigs?
plants are a good source of income weather you grow micro-greens in a tower or maintain the plants at an eternal gravesite ... theres plants and or plant maintenance everywhere you look. even starting smaller and sell fresh herbs at a restaurants back door it all can be done to turn plants into money ...imo
Best way is to start working at a farm, get to know the family really well, then wait for them to retire and work out a deal to buy it from them. Not sure how anyone starts farming from scratch anymore unless they are already rich and the farming is just for fun….
What about hay? I’ve found plenty of sickle mowers for 1500 and windrowers for 1200 and bailers for 2000 so that leaves a couple thousand for a old tractor
Start with something that generates a cashflow. Build on that. Invest cashflow in equity or in something that adds value to the basic farming. Build on that and then when youve got enough, just keep doing chickens!
I can't help but notice they didn't actually answer the question.
everyone argues "start in niche" and I really have to agree. some foods u just can't find at all or they're extremely expensive. if you're good, you'll soon have a whole local ethnic community buying from you
I started with 200 bucks and some scrap wood and alot of work. I am on track to be clearing 1.5 million a year in the next 2 years.