Who Was Truman Capote's Mother and How Did She DIE?? FEUD: Capote vs The Swans s1e2

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  • Meet Truman Capote's mother, Lillie Mae (Nina) Capote. Who was she? How did she die and what was it about her that led him to betray his swans?
    The TV mini-series, Feud Capote vs. the Swans’ portrays Truman Capote haunted by the ghost of his mother whose role is to remind him who he is and where he came from before his rise to celebrity and success.
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  • @fabulouswomeninhistory
    @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +25

    So who was she? How did she die and what was it about her that led him to betray his swans? LEAVE COMMENTS! Tell me what you think!!!

    • @ellebassa9288
      @ellebassa9288 4 місяці тому +10

      So do to the abandoned, he suffered from his mother. He's afraid the very same thing will happen with the swans. Even if he's given them no reason to. So he decided to strike first.
      when he didn't really have to at all

    • @nancyvillines4552
      @nancyvillines4552 4 місяці тому +10

      I honestly believe he caused Ann's death definitely. I think with Babe he thought he was going to ruin Bill. Not realizing he was ruining her whole life. And when he finally realized it, it was too late and he acted as if they should of expected it. He was Babe's best friend and he destroyed her whole being. I personally think he was a vicious little man child who used people for his own purposes. Even the way he tricked Perry Smith and Dick Hickock was disgusting. They deserved what they got. But to wish for someone's death so you can finish a book? That's just sick in my book. He got exactly what he deserved with the Swan's. It shouldn't of been his decision to out her husband. And he had no right to spread his version of Ann's husband's death. As far as his mother, she was a piece of work. It's no wonder he turned out the way he did.

    • @jimmccord487
      @jimmccord487 3 місяці тому

      Very well spoken.For all his literary talent TC was a self serving weasel.@@nancyvillines4552

  • @lepetitenellie
    @lepetitenellie 4 місяці тому +67

    I never knew Capote's mother's name was Lillie Mae. His character Holly Golightly's real name is Lulamae. There are always analyses of who the real-life Holly was in Truman's life but now I understand some inspiration came from his mother's country-to-New York ambitions.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +20

      Yes, I've come across some very interesting articles that say the his mother was the inspiration for Holly Golightly. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @elizabethcloutman8913
      @elizabethcloutman8913 4 місяці тому +10

      @@fabulouswomeninhistory
      Yes, while others have suggested it was Carol Matthau, his mother as the inspiration makes far more sense!

    • @clivecarser7356
      @clivecarser7356 4 місяці тому +4

      And a bit of Ann Woodward too.!!!

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  3 місяці тому +9

      Yes, I am doing a video on Carol Matthau and her friendship with Capote. Should be out in next couple of days.

  • @Goodkidjr43
    @Goodkidjr43 4 місяці тому +98

    If anyone is interested, Capote's mother's life and behavior is similar to the female protagonist in a French classic by Flaubert called, "Madam Bovary written in 1856. A very prescient book. Following the god of Materialism is explicit. God bless.

  • @historychannelpodcasts
    @historychannelpodcasts 4 місяці тому +64

    I love Jessica Lange! Her character is an awesome way to show not only how truman was affected by his childhood but also a way to show him as the empath child. YOu stated this so brilliantly in your video with he part about the sin eaters. Very smart! Keep 'em coming! I love your channel!

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +4

      Thanks so much. I love getting this kind of feedback! And, thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @soniandukwe8981
    @soniandukwe8981 4 місяці тому +79

    This explains Truman’s hatred of women. He probably felt they would dump him like his mother did, so before they dumped him, he would dump them first. It’s a self defense

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +4

      I think it does. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @honeypure-pye9474
      @honeypure-pye9474 4 місяці тому +2

      I agree 💯

    • @3506Dodge
      @3506Dodge 4 місяці тому

      Many gay men resent women for a number of reasons including their mother's failures to establish trusting and respectful relations with their gay sons.

    • @nadyarossi5102
      @nadyarossi5102 4 місяці тому +5

      Didn't he love his aged aunties, tho? "A Christmas Memory" was written as an homage to them.

    • @AAZEDLARC
      @AAZEDLARC 3 місяці тому

      I don't think hated them, but feared them for potential abandonment, a self-fulfilling prophecy. Nina was abandoned by her parents too. I feel like Robbie Baitz addressed this pretty well in an earlier episode@ossi5102

  • @thedowagerd.2431
    @thedowagerd.2431 4 місяці тому +39

    I would imagine he had a split psyche from the terrors he suffered by being abandoned by Mommy. His emotional and physical growth were also stunted. He searched for the perfect woman, even imitating his version as his persona, in order to destroy both.

  • @beverlyhayshouston2770
    @beverlyhayshouston2770 4 місяці тому +44

    Check out A Christmas Memory by Truman Capote. A beautiful and sad memory of his life as a child. It’s available on UA-cam. The character Dill in the movie To Kill A Mockingbird is based on Truman.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +9

      His aunt sook is featured in A Christmas Memory. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @barbaragrider9136
      @barbaragrider9136 4 місяці тому +3

      He also had his dear.friend, Belle Harper Lee, who wrote To Kill A Mockingbird. They were childhood friends and into adulthood. He is portrayed in her book as the little boy, Dill.

    • @elizabethcloutman8913
      @elizabethcloutman8913 4 місяці тому +4

      @@barbaragrider9136
      Yes - minor correction: Her name was Nell Harper Lee.

    • @cherylboucher4491
      @cherylboucher4491 4 місяці тому +1

      A theater group performed this in Hudson, NY, as a multi sensory experience. It was in a small, intimate theater and brought me to tears. It's definitely worth reading.

    • @tooma4886
      @tooma4886 3 місяці тому +1

      It is rumored that Capote wrote "To Kill a Mockingbird" FOR Harper Lee, and it's completely plausible seeing as she wrote only one other book which was published in 2015.

  • @carol-lynnrossel8700
    @carol-lynnrossel8700 4 місяці тому +10

    Thanks for illuminating Joe Capote’s background. In the 1960s he and his wife Marge landed in TOTTENVILLE Staten Island and became a bizarre part of our family circle. Marge was certain any day Truman would come visit. Of course he didn’t. I wish I knew more about Joe Capote. He was a fascinating enigma.

  • @howto4u705
    @howto4u705 4 місяці тому +52

    I think her dislike of his effeminate nature was also a part of his emotional angst. I read somewhere that she wished she had gotten the abortion rather than have such a 'sissy' son. This must have instilled a lot of self hatred as so often happens with gay men. But, I just watched Phillip Seymour do his capote interpretation in the movie and it seems that Capote didn't try very hard to disguise it. If anyone can find where I can watch the Toby Jones version of Capote, please let me know. This series has made me want to go back and see these earlier representation of Capote. I think Tom Hollander is doing an excellent job and, who doesn't love Jessica Lange. Thank you for this video.I thoroughly enjoyed it!

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +5

      It's called, Infamous and was made in 2006 according to IMDB.com. I use justwatch.com to find where to find movies and shows. According to them it is only available to rent at various places include UA-cam for something like 3.99. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @erics1140
      @erics1140 4 місяці тому

      Not all gay men are "sissies" and the self hatred is imbedded by straight people. It's taught not inherent.

    • @GiftSparks
      @GiftSparks 4 місяці тому +11

      For what it’s worth, “Infamous” is a far better film than “Capote.” Toby Jones deserved the Oscar for it. But it was unfortunate that the film came out after “Capote.”

    • @erics1140
      @erics1140 4 місяці тому +7

      Why did you delete my initial response which was that not all gay men are sissies and that internalized self hate is not inherent but taught by straight people? What was false about that statement and what triggered you enough to get rid of it?

    • @xrrrismickey
      @xrrrismickey 4 місяці тому +3

      Infamous is much better and this is why DVDs and Blu-rays are still valuable

  • @lynnboyd33
    @lynnboyd33 4 місяці тому +25

    Video was so well done. Makes me feel a bit sad for poor Truman. I'm glad at least, thru childhood, he had grandma Sook.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +5

      Truman once said he would have been better off if his mother had never come back for him and he could have stayed with his aunts. It is sad and I did want to present a side of the story that is integral to who he was and why he did the things that he did. Thanks for appreciating the video. ❤

    • @deborahcurtis1385
      @deborahcurtis1385 4 місяці тому +6

      @@fabulouswomeninhistory He can't really say that with any certainty, because the life of a small gay effeminate man in Alalbama would not have been so great. He would instead be wistful about the life his mother was leading in NYC and probably would have searched her out. Overall Capote had a lot of opportunities in life and he took them. He could have benefited from modern psychology and facing up to his emotional deficits he was attempting to fill artificially. You. have to find a sense of security within yourself, trying to find it in others makes you vulnerable. He knew that and despised his own vulnerability and that of the swans, who took him for granted. It's a tragedy but at least we can learn from it.

  • @marlenemeldrum7382
    @marlenemeldrum7382 3 місяці тому +3

    A tragic story full of a most Talented human being with unfortunately unresolved mother issues, abandonment, lack of boundaries, self hate, self Sabotage....it is just an incredibly sad story of what we all strive for TO BE LOVED AND ACCEPTED...the video is indeed well done...thank you so much...all the best....

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  3 місяці тому

      Thank you for liking the video. He was definitely a product of his childhood. Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @kathyblalock8078
    @kathyblalock8078 4 місяці тому +10

    The man-child was always looking for her his mother in the swans the lush styles of life😢

  • @ilanamillion8942
    @ilanamillion8942 4 місяці тому +11

    It is unforgiveable to betray the' confidences and secrets of those women. I don't think I would have behaved any differently than the swans did. He sure underestimated their intelligence, didn't he?.

    • @mE-zx7pt
      @mE-zx7pt 3 місяці тому +2

      Most of them were snakes, too.

    • @terry4137
      @terry4137 2 місяці тому

      What intelligence?😂

    • @thechaz83
      @thechaz83 Місяць тому

      Discovering the names of the swans I say touché my friend. Touché 😂

  • @ceceliagarmer5479
    @ceceliagarmer5479 4 місяці тому +23

    Jessica Lange is glorious!

  • @elizabethcloutman8913
    @elizabethcloutman8913 4 місяці тому +6

    Wonderfully done video! Thank you!

  • @maryellengrayberg9146
    @maryellengrayberg9146 4 місяці тому +7

    Thank you for posting this. I have often wondered what his mother was like and what the actual story was.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому

      I did as well; hence the video. Glad you liked it and it's good to have the feedback!

  • @doreendash
    @doreendash День тому

    great video! i just finished Feud and this was a helpful capture of who Truman was. thank you!

  • @MunchForWellness
    @MunchForWellness 4 місяці тому +11

    I looked up some old pictures of his mother in the show, Jessica Lange and she was gorgeous! Just like is mother, I guess. I have only watched the first episode and will have to get back to watching it since it looks like more and more people are watching it. Gotta keep up, you know! 😃😃 Good video. Thanks,

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +2

      Thank you for liking the video and thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @johelenfugate3498
      @johelenfugate3498 4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for this video . I’ve always thought that Truman’s betrayal of the swans was rooted in his relationship with his mother.

  • @dianemiller3682
    @dianemiller3682 4 місяці тому +4

    This was so interesting! Thank you!❤

  • @johnvonundzu2170
    @johnvonundzu2170 4 місяці тому +7

    The use of 1950s imagery for Lillie Mae's & Truman's early life in the 1920s & 30s is a little strange.

  • @dividends4retirement
    @dividends4retirement 4 місяці тому +6

    I wondered just this question after watchin ep. 3 of the series! Good job putting it all together. I like the AI art, too.

  • @1234cheerful
    @1234cheerful 4 місяці тому +7

    Text was concise and written, narration clear and confident, not sensationalized. But NONE of those cars or hairstyles or clothes are from the 1920s. More like the 1940s and 1950s. A bit jarring. I did enjoy seeing the actual photographs of Truman with his family.

  • @AAZEDLARC
    @AAZEDLARC 3 місяці тому

    Side note, I am so glad this series is sparking a conversation. Mr. Capote's tragedy is all of our tragedy, high/low, ambition/destruction, acceptance/rejection, love/"hate," and so much more. It's a testament to Mr. Capote's talent that we are talking about this 40-ish years later RIP

  • @helenwheels3341
    @helenwheels3341 4 місяці тому +15

    If you don't want children. Don't have children 😮

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +7

      We are talking the 30's 40's. Birth control was not so availalbe then.

    • @patriciagonzales2148
      @patriciagonzales2148 3 місяці тому +2

      @@fabulouswomeninhistoryI would say or abortions, but we are almost right back there. No rights at all.

    • @thunderousapplause
      @thunderousapplause 3 місяці тому +2

      Not so much a choice then, or now. Some women could not, cannot afford to leave the state to travel for a safe and legal abortion.

    • @gloriamontgomery6900
      @gloriamontgomery6900 3 місяці тому +3

      There was birth control available-diaphragms and condoms. Not too difficult for a man to get, but fairly tricky for thewoman’s option . My grandparents were birth control (prevention of pregnancy) activists back in the 1920’s and 1930s. Diaphragms for women had to be smuggled in from the UK. Even publishing information about birth control was illegal.

    • @rachaelmorgan4025
      @rachaelmorgan4025 2 місяці тому

      ​@@gloriamontgomery6900there was adoption. Having a baby and keeping a baby is two speaker things. Had she not been heartless she could have given baby Truman up for adoption where he would have had a fighting chance

  • @prosperwoman7085
    @prosperwoman7085 4 місяці тому +9

    Brilliant ❤

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому

      Thanks! I really enjoyed making this video. I found Lillie Mae so interesting!

  • @lillianmcgrew217
    @lillianmcgrew217 4 місяці тому +5

    So sad 😔 for him

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +1

      Yes, it does show just how much our childhood afffects us! Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @persia888
    @persia888 4 місяці тому +11

    Why does Truman have a full English accent when he was born and bred in the US?

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +1

      My narrator works hard to sound like Capote but sometimes he slips up! Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @bryanspindle4455
      @bryanspindle4455 4 місяці тому +9

      He didn't really have an English accent. He had a strange high- pitched, childlike, feminine way of speaking. I have seen several interviews with him.

    • @allinaday9882
      @allinaday9882 4 місяці тому +2

      See if you can view him on one his appearances on the old Dick Cavet shows he visited. I do not know how, but I have seen a few of those shows recently. 😊

    • @elizabethcloutman8913
      @elizabethcloutman8913 4 місяці тому

      ⁠@@allinaday9882 You can find on UA-cam both the Dick Cavett interview, as well as one by journalist David Susskind!

    • @terry4137
      @terry4137 2 місяці тому

      😂

  • @thunderousapplause
    @thunderousapplause 3 місяці тому +2

    Cruelty almost always stems from trauma, I expect.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  3 місяці тому

      Does it? That is an interesting observation. I'll have to think on that. Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @judithbooth3165
    @judithbooth3165 4 місяці тому +3

    Might explain why he had in it in for the swans at an unconscious level.

  • @mallorygraf8574
    @mallorygraf8574 4 місяці тому +3

    I am watching the series and though Diane Lane and Chloe are great the story is so jagged. And adding Jessica Lange to "story plot" is confusing. Sadly, I don't think I have the stomach to finish the series.

  • @TheSahand68
    @TheSahand68 4 місяці тому +9

    So, Truman Capote was a wictim of a narcissistic mother, similar to those "swans", he outgrew, and came to resent.

  • @honeyfungus4774
    @honeyfungus4774 4 місяці тому +4

    Photographs are obviously very deceptive. Capote's mother and several of the Swans are described as beautiful but to my eyes they're not even attractive.

    • @Kinikia95
      @Kinikia95 4 місяці тому

      I think the swans were pretty.

  • @elizabethcloutman8913
    @elizabethcloutman8913 3 місяці тому

    One correction, coming from Joanne Carson, a close friend of Truman’s in whose home he passed away. She was with him when he passed away. She said that the two causes of his death were liver disease as he was a heavy drinker, as well as phlebitis, a blood clot in his leg. She denies a drug overdose was the cause, but according to the coroner’s report, in addition to liver disease and phlebitis, multiple drug intoxication also a contributing factor. Clearly, he was a very unhealthy man at his death. He was just 59 when he died Aug. 25, 1984. He would have turned 60 on Sept. 30, 1984. 😂😂

  • @shadrach6299
    @shadrach6299 3 місяці тому

    Capote adored Babe, CZ, Joanna and Harper Lee

  • @cynthiafritze7418
    @cynthiafritze7418 4 місяці тому +7

    Babe Paley wasn’t a great mother either.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +4

      Yes, that is why you see her photo in my video where I am talking about bad mothers, Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @ammasophia4663
    @ammasophia4663 25 днів тому

    Interesting how Capote is framed as 'empathetic therapist".
    Instead of "manipulative user".
    The wealthy women had no skills to be internally honest.
    Truman's listening skills got them to feel someone understood them and loved them.
    Capote wasn't able to even think of being attractive to them as a man,
    so played off of their need to feel loved, ultimately using them and proving he used them and discarded them... as he felt his mother had discarded him.
    Had his mother be able to catch a wealthy man when she was young Capote would have been neglected in an entirely different way.

  • @shadrach6299
    @shadrach6299 3 місяці тому

    I could read an entire book on Babe Paley

  • @jazzbuff630
    @jazzbuff630 3 місяці тому +1

    Based on this depiction, his first name should have been Trauma, not Truman. The name "Tru-man"is oxymironic.

  • @volume2517
    @volume2517 3 місяці тому +2

    It's obvious that his exposing the problems and flaws of high society women was born by his mother's unfulfilled dreams and her shunning him. Its almost as if he was trying to win his deceased mother's approval, even though he knew she was an awful mother. 😢

  • @madelinekimbro2440
    @madelinekimbro2440 3 місяці тому +1

    He turned into his mom.

  • @jacqueblue
    @jacqueblue 4 місяці тому +3

    Petty little man.

  • @user-dy2fx3xq9t
    @user-dy2fx3xq9t 3 місяці тому +1

    Mummy, first 🦢!!!

  • @christysmith2807
    @christysmith2807 4 місяці тому +3

    The clothes and cars are wrong. He didn’t grow up in the 50’s.

  • @CatherinesChronicles_
    @CatherinesChronicles_ 4 місяці тому

    😢

  • @Mishaseymour
    @Mishaseymour 4 місяці тому +6

    Which perfume did she wear ?

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +5

      Evening in Paris (can't remember the source).

    • @beverlystraus9300
      @beverlystraus9300 4 місяці тому +6

      My mother has blue bottles of Evening in Paris cologne back in the early 1960's to my recollection.

    • @bryanspindle4455
      @bryanspindle4455 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@beverlystraus9300l remember as a kid in the sixties seeing Evening In Paris in every drug store and discount store. It was a cheap perfume.

  • @shadrach6299
    @shadrach6299 3 місяці тому +2

    Who doesn’t have “mommy issues”?

  • @pamelacox540
    @pamelacox540 4 місяці тому +9

    Truman learned how to support vain, narcissistic women.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +3

      Like attracted to like for sure! Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @mizfrenchtwist
    @mizfrenchtwist 3 місяці тому +1

    🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @donnashomin357
    @donnashomin357 4 місяці тому +3

    The simple answer is the Truman wanted to get Bill Pall Paley for the things he had done to Babe.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +2

      That is the way he explained it away but I read that it didn't stand because Babe was more of a loyalist wife than Capote counted on. Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @a.m.9474
    @a.m.9474 4 місяці тому

    Who’s Nina

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +1

      Lillie Mae "Nina" Faulk Capaote - ua-cam.com/video/x-d0kbQZDvE/v-deo.htmlsi=qDOA92w97qH3Hb50&t=71

  • @joeluisishere
    @joeluisishere 3 місяці тому

    He seemed very upset about mother’s way so I think he chose these women because they had similar traits as his mother, all were bad mothers. All of them wanted fame and wealth over love. So I think he wrote this book to make them pay for their ways. It backfired and he ended up wishing he never wrote these things about them because like his mother ,he loved them and just wanted their love back. He couldn’t bear living with out them like his mother.

  • @AP-wq9dv
    @AP-wq9dv 4 місяці тому +1

    You might have given a spoiler alert for those of us invested in this new series and remain unaware of the circumstances in which these people have died.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +1

      I think that is evident from the scenes with his molther in the show where she is encouraging him to come join her; but then I read, reseach and have watched the docs and movie about TC so I could be ahead of you on that. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @thunderousapplause
      @thunderousapplause 3 місяці тому

      wahhh. good grief.

  • @Richardsonprincess00
    @Richardsonprincess00 4 місяці тому +1

    Scandal alert

  • @SnarkNSass
    @SnarkNSass 4 місяці тому +1

    She just thought she was a beauty...🤢

  • @shelaakaumi
    @shelaakaumi 4 місяці тому +3

    Such bs. Always an excuse for doing evil.

    • @dalehoward3704
      @dalehoward3704 4 місяці тому +1

      Not an excuse, but some insight.

  • @hyacinth4368
    @hyacinth4368 3 місяці тому +1

    Jessica Lange sure got old! Hardly recognized her.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  3 місяці тому +3

      I give her credit for not being another Jane Fonda with a face that doesn't match her age.

    • @kathychinski6308
      @kathychinski6308 3 місяці тому +1

      I agree. She was also made up to look like a faded beauty with a bad attitude.

    • @mirabellaolson6410
      @mirabellaolson6410 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@kathychinski6308 I thought she looked beautiful!

  • @migmadmarine
    @migmadmarine 4 місяці тому +2

    I dont give a ratz arse about him or his mother

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 місяці тому +6

      😃 I guess you aren't watching the show then! Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @donnashomin357
      @donnashomin357 4 місяці тому +11

      Then go take your comments to something that does interest you.

    • @Kinikia95
      @Kinikia95 4 місяці тому +8

      Then why in the world would you watch this?