ToolkitRC M6D Review | FULL Detailed Review
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- It's easy to chalk the M6D up as just another cheap ToolkitRC charger. But the M6D is incredibly feature-packed, its calibration checked out, so I thought the M6D deserved a fair review. Because you don't judge a charger based on its watts per dollar without discussing many of its features! This is a very long video because there were so many features I wanted to include in the video, but I wanted to find a balance between something that has new info for veterans but also very informative for someone looking at a ToolkitRC charger for the first time. Just check out the TOC below to skip to a section if you need to.
Buy it here bit.ly/3go2kMJ | bit.ly/2AttXEV
Download the manual and firmware from Toolkit RC M6D website www.toolkitrc.com/m6d
If you have one of the first 100 units (your unit came with either V1.00 or V1.01 firmware) use this firmware to update to V1.04 - bit.ly/2C256IL
Designed a TPU cover for this - www.thingiverse.com/thing:453...
If you'd like to show your appreciation for my efforts, you can buy me coffee here! :) - ko-fi.com/imaginationtech
Table of Contents
0:00 Introduction
1:20 Unboxing & External Observations
3:25 Main screen info
4:07 Input Settings
4:34 Security Settings
5:23 Backlight
5:39 Calibration
6:58 Two Channels
7:12 Battery Selection Presets
8:11 Charge Features
9:03 Discharge Features/Recycle Mode
10:37 Power
11:29 UAVBat
12:04 Synchronous Mode
13:00 Continuous Work Mode
14:04 Multiple Operations
14:21 Manual and Firmware
15:02 Firmware Limitation on early units
15:52 Changes after update
16:18 Conclusion
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Oblivion
-TBS Oblivion frame
-Helio RC Spring AIO
-Drone Drop Boxcutter Motors 2207 2450kv
-Flycolor Raptor BLS 4in1 ESC
-TBS Unify Pro Nano
-TBS Crossfire Nano Rx
-TBS CCD FPV Camera
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Mich (Mini Tricopter) - • Mini Tricopter Maiden ...
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MY OTHER GEAR
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Taranis Q X7 Transmitter - bit.ly/2CA5KvC
Fatshark Dominator V3 goggles - bit.ly/2PJUHDQ
ToolkitRC M6D Dual Smart Charger - bit.ly/2AttXEV | bit.ly/3go2kMJ
Ultra Power UP-S6 6-port 1S LiHV charger - bit.ly/3cvmu66
TS100 Smart Soldering Iron - bit.ly/35UoPFj
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Very thorough review, that's what we need more of. Unfortunately I was washing up (manual) and couldn't read notes in time, gotta watch twice
I've met some polish people, indeed hard to spell names and almost as hard to pronounce 😆
Really great review. Clear and informative. Your review is what made me decide on this charger. Thanks.
Glad you liked it! Both the review and the charger itself :)
Thanks for the good info. September 2021 now so I figured most all the bugs have been worked out and thanks to you I ordered one. Looking forward to using it.
Great to hear! It's been my regular-use charger since. Now that you mention it, I haven't even updated the firmware on mine ever since.
what bugs ??
Tanx for good info👍
You're very much welcome! 😊
great review JB eat your heart out!
Well, it eventually made it into JB's FPV Shopping List! :)
Really great video ever seen in my life 😍
Thanks 🙏
I just ordered one the other day. I like the power mode... I should be able to hook up a 15A load bank to each channel, set the battery type to power, and quickly discharge the lipo battery connected to input. When the input battery is below the input cut-off voltage it should stop automatically. A nice option when you don't have a different battery you want to recycle to.
That is a great idea! I've got a bank of 1W resistors I could use, they can up those amps like there's no tomorrow, but with this it's going to be more controlled.
@@ImaginationTech I've been thinking about what I want to use as a load bank. Instead of doing resisters, I may try out a 24v PTC heater or two, they seem cheap and I won't need to find a good heat sink. Resistors would be better if I need a more precise load but honestly if I could just discharge at 10A+ and not have to closely monitor, I'll be happy.
How well did it work out
Amazing review! Question - did you ever get a chance to check M7AC or M9? Here where I live, M7AC, M9 and M6D are basically identically priced ($2 plus, minus). I already have iSDT D1 (AC/DC), but I want to buy another one just in case, as my backup charger. In case my D1 decides to retire or die, I don't want to be stranded without a charger. Trying to decide which one to go with among those 3 chargers by ToolkitRC. I understand M6D has dual charging option, but I believe that other two also have some nice features this one does not have, plus M6D probably has the oldest firmware of all, it's an older model after all. Thanks in advance!
I've unfortunately not been able to do a hands-on review of those units. Believe it or not, I'm still using this M6D!
Onto the M7AC and M9, here are my pros and cons for each (things I didn't list I feel are trivial or unnecessary "features")
M7AC
+AC input (not that useful to me, as I have a power supply at home and various DC power w/ XT60 on the go. But it could be useful to some people on a case-to-case basis. I know a lot of people got the Hota D6 exactly for the AC input.
+Sliding XT30/XT60 charging port! (I already got adapters for XT30, but I could do without the little bits and bobs in my bag)
-Only goes to 6S (I personally don't need more than that, but if you're flying cinelifters, you'll need 8S).
M9
+600W output
+8S charging
+65W USB-C/A charging port
-No AC input (not a con for me). Though, it's only 10g lighter than the M7AC.
-I am afraid of the moving screen might be prone to damage.
Conclusion: Personal opinion is I would go for the M7AC even though it has less power on paper. In practice, I'm not gonna need all that 600W unless I'm going 8S or have some really beefy batteries, some of the minor "features" of the M9 isn't really that useful to me and is in the M7AC as well. Nice to have, but not essential.
At 4:11 input settings, I see there is P1, P2, ect. Does this mean the m6d will store different power supply settings? Or what is this selection used for?
When charging my 4s battery's sometimes the individual cell numbers are randomly changing colors like orange and red. What does that mean?
This is the best video I have found for the M6d that breaks down the features. Thank you for doing this, got you some coffee!
Good call! I missed that one. Just took a look at my M6D now as I'm discharging some packs, and they seem to be input profiles. For example, you can have P1 to be your regular power supply at home, but for P2 you can set it for your field charging battery pack, say a 6S 5000mah pack, so you can set the power type to battery (so you can do recycle discharge) and set the voltage range to the safe limits for that battery. As for the colors, not 100% sure but the red seems to indicate the lowest cell while the orange means it's (dis)charging it up to balance them. I don't usually take note of it since I look at the cell values more.
Thanks for the coffee! Really appreciate it :)
You forgot to mention the maximum end voltage per cell it can handle.
Guess I did! In my defense that usually is determined by the industry not the charger e..g Li-Ion is usually 4.10v max, LiPo is 4.20v, and LiHV is 4.35V, but I shouldn't have expected everyone to know that.
great video mate, this charger doesn't have balance charging mode? thanks
Yes it does! It's in the video.
@@ImaginationTech thanks for the reply, in your video I saw only charge-discharge-storage, where do you see the balance? thanks
Smart charger Dual channel for 65 bucks? I'm sold!
ISDT who? 😂
Hello very good video thank you for sharing I would like to know if it is possible to charge LHIV smart batteries without the balancer plug, I do not see the option on the menu to deactivate the balanceator, the battery which I want to charge is is a FIMI X8 SE drone battery, thank you very much
Indeed, it will start charging whether you plug in the balance plug or not. If it doesn't have the balance plug, it's just going to charge up to whatever target voltage is set.
@@ImaginationTech Thank you very much and keep up the good work it a pleasure to watch your videos
@@ImaginationTech I had asked the question I have a brand new isdt 608ac charger that I have just bought and it starts to charge and after a few minutes stop charging and therefore the following message on the screen, abnormal battery connection, that's why that I would like to be on who the ToolkitRC M6D is running on before buying it thanks
@@brocas7325 Yup, the ISDT doesn't like to balance anything without a balance lead. It's a "smart" charger that assumes its users don't know what they're doing 🤣
@@ImaginationTech Thanks 👍👍👍
Better then htrc t240 ? I'm not interested output power . Just to be accurate and we'll done made and can charge 1-6s without balans ? only battery in series ? thanks you .
Not necessarily better, that's your call. Cons, it doesn't have built-in like the T240. Pros, it can go 300W and is smaller. It can charge without balance, just the XT60 plug. Killer feature for me is the continuous charge mode so I don't have to fiddle around everytime a battery finishes and I plug in a new one for charging. End of the day, up to you to weigh the pros and cons depending on your needs. Cheers! :)
Do you know if toolkitrc uses their balancing current spec as 2x800mAh or is it 800 total?
Hota d6 Pro makes it very clear, stating 2x1600mAh. I've got a charger with 300mAh balancing and would like a considerable upgrade in this department, but with toolkit it's unclear.
I believe it's 800mah per channel, meaning 2x800mah. While I haven't measured that myself, just basing it on experience that the specs they've put out is pretty consistent with real-world performance e.g. they state their max discharge is 12W @ 3A, I'm getting 12-14W IRL.
Hi@all, just a weired idea, the M6D hast also a "power mode" where it behaves like a bench powersupply with 1-28V output, would it be possible to connect both outputs in series to get up to 58V ?
if yes, that would be awesome and I could charge even my 13S E-Bike :D
In theory it could work as long as your power supply could handle it. I'm confirming with Toolkitrc.
@@ImaginationTech on a second thought it can't work :( I assume both channels have a common ground, so they can"t be connected in series only in parallel
can i charge a 12s battery when connected in series using both ports simultaniously ??
Synchronous mode allows you to go up to 25A, but the max is still 6S unfortunately.
@@ImaginationTech yeah i really want a 12s balance charger
Hi, what is the max Input current it can take. I will use a 12v dc supply to charge 2x 6S 6000mah. Will this work? Ohms law...lol?
Not exactly ohm's law but close. Power (W) = Volts (V) x Current (A). Your output would be 25.2V (6S) x 6A x 2 channels = 302.4W. So if you get a 12V 30A power supply ( 360W) you should be good (it's always a good idea to not max them out).
@@ImaginationTech Thanks man:-)
I think this is going to be my next charger, but I don't like that I also need to buy a $33 power supply to use it. But it's 2 chargers in 1.
I use an old laptop charger, puts out about 90W which is enough for most except maybe if you're parallel charging a lot of 6S, but 5x 4S is fine.
At 0:25 I said "watts per hour" instead of "watts per dollar". I may or may not have been thinking of my electric bill 😂. Regardless, my point is don't judge or compare chargers by the watts per dollar.
Disappointed that it doesn't have Destroy mode. How do I safely dispose of batteries now?
Me too. But considering I don't dispose batteries all the time, but I charge, storage charge, and use the power mode very often, I'd consider the trade off well worth it. The continuous mode is the one killer feature I always use. As for disposing batteries, you could still use the Pb and NIMH modes to discharge to 0 (cells set to Auto), but it takes some fiddling.
In power supply mode. What voltage ranges can set ?
In video i can't see.
Thank you
It can go all the way from 1V to 30V.
@@ImaginationTech thank you so much
Sorry my bad, it only goes up to 28V. Checked it just now.
@@ImaginationTech this mean is 1v to 28v ?
I see Hota D6 lite only adjust power mode from 5v to 24v
Yup 👍
How about now is there any problem , because I was bad experience with toolkitrc charger
Still using it to this day! Had to eventually replace the screen which I bought off Aliexpress.
Can I connect an AC adapter to keep that charger powered
Yes of course. I just don't know if it will have any long-term effects on the LCD screen being powered up all the time.
Can u do recycle 15amps into a powersupply i got a 575w 12v power supply
If you set the input source to Adapter in settings, you won't be able to select Recycle mode. I can't say if there will be any damage if you have your setting to Recycle but actually have an adapter plugged in; Recycle mode is designed for when you have a rechargable battery as the power source.
@@ImaginationTech so if i wanna discharge at 15 amps i can just plug in a 3s lipo battery does it have to be fully charged?
@@maagneticc6470 think of recycle as reverse charging. Do you charge your 3S lipo at 15A? Also, when the lipo gets fully charged, it will stop the operation. So depending on the situation, Internal discharge might be better. I definitely use recycle when I have a big discharged battery (6S LiIon 3000mah) and I need to quickly discharge several smaller batteries (ex. 4S 1300mah)
@@ImaginationTech i will use it for drag racing so i need to cycle the pack so discharge and recharge as fast as possible my 2s lipo's to get irs down
Does anyone have the smaller v1.06 firmware they could share?
There was someone who shared a link to the smaller v1.06 firmware in the ToolkitRC group. I'll try to look for it and copy it here.
Ok, my mistake, the latest AVAILABLE seems to still be 1.06 but it's not the small version.
Hard decision , Q8 or M6D to upgrade from imaxb6 )
Made a review of the Q8 as well. Personally went for the M6D, because it made sense for me, and it wasn't a hard decision for me once I got to review the M6D. Check out that review as well, and weigh the pros and cons of each (only thing I miss with Q8 is the destroy mode, which I don't need that often anyway).
@@ImaginationTech hehe yeah destroy I found a way around that but it takes time to destroy a battery w this m6d , what I liked about the m6d against any isdt is the color statues I have had the same amperage charging on both and I just feel the isdt it’s more efficient on charging and balancing the cells it takes along long time on the m6d after doing fast charging , but yeah this m6d has feautures but the thing I liked more than anything on this m6d is that the scroll knob is perfect and dual channel option more useful . In charging only I will go for isdt any model but for discharging the m6d is great regen mode 15A charge and discharge hehehe . I had no issue with calibration on my experience with the isdt as I did calibration and did worst so left it alone and balance well my cells , only that for the $ you get way more features for the m6d it’s more powerful in anyway . Btw disclaimer I tested the usb output and it says 2.1A it’s not I got .94-1Amp max no matter what I put so yeah it took a long time to charge my devices hehe not reliable but there again it’s an extra feature
Thanks for the link to the V1.04 (256K) firmware. My M6D would not accept any of the firmware on the ToolkitRC site as it didn't have enough space. I contacted ToolkitRC and here is a link to the v1.05 (256K) firmware:
we.tl/t-DJKkioCVTV?src=dnl
Oh nice! I didn't see this comment earlier.
@@ImaginationTech v1.06 is being shipped on newer chargers now but I haven't been able to get a copy of the 256K version yet. Not sure what it improves though.
I'm gonna make sure to go on that other channel, and give him some hell for making a poor review 😜
I sympathize with the other guy, they have deadlines to meet, so unfortunately sometimes their reviews can be a bit rushed. Meanwhile, I bought this with my own money and took my sweet time to really get to know it. 😁