I have cloned Auto's by Air Layering. The purpose of this was to reverse the cutting with Silver Thiosulphate and produce S1 clones of the donor plant, also to create Auto Hybrids with other plants. Lots of advantages in reversing clone cuttings over full size plants. You can easily keep tiny pollen producing plants away from flowers, collect pollen and take it to the buds you want fertilised. So making a small amount of seed, without damaging yield or quality in your grow.
why the hell would you not just treat a single branch on the plant? air layering would not bypass the auto trait would it (it wouldnt make sense for it to)? even just cloning them normally they go in to flower immediately after sprouting roots (making it easy to treat them anyways).
@@megaflux7144 Treat the branch and your whole plant and the room gets pollinated, I'm not trying to bypass the auto trait, I'm trying to keep control of the pollen. I Air layered co's I couldn't be arsed doing cuttings the normal way, i.e. Setting up a propagator, cloning light, etc. for 1 or 2 cuts. And layering is the least stressful way of taking cuttings for any plant. My aim is to mature one male flower and get enough pollen to stain my finger tip. I then go touch up the girls in just the places I want. Creating between 10 and 30 seed on a plant and not the thousands which result from a blanket pollination. Small numbers of seed also take nothing from the quality of the smoke, heavily seeded bud is usually nothing compared to the Sensi. So that is the hell why I do it this way.
@@megaflux7144 Because he wants to make s1. Not sure if you have to spray the whole plant or if you can reverse a single branch. He probably didn’t know either so decided to just take and root a cutting or two and just reverse those. He might want to use the pollen to hit other plants as well. At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter. It’s not like taking and rooting a clone costs much. It costs a few pennies each. And rooting a few cuttings takes no effort. Just take em, dip em and stick em and leave em in a propagator for seven to ten days.
@@BeneathTheGold no, you can cover the plant with plastic (bag/tarp/whatever) and spray just 1 branch. that would give you pollen and pollinate the plant in the process (yay free seeds). generally speaking one would take a clone from a healthy plant, i have never considered mutants (which is what autos are) "healthy". it makes more sense to me to do normal clones and start the sts treatment immediately since they go in to flower as soon as you cut them anyways (which is when you are supposed to start treating them). another option would be revegging, but that takes forever. my suspicion is.. since stress or roots hitting something is what triggers flower in autos (as far as i know) air layering would have the new roots hit something and BAM its flower time. if it somehow bypasses that switch being hit then thats awesome and something to be looked in to.
@kushcraft9914 yes I've heard mate, I've never tried it mind and quite a few have said things like it's not worth it or it's hard or it's hit and miss but again I wouldn't know first hand because it's not something I would even wanna try myself I would just rather buy some litte fellas and get germinating if ycmd but maybe one day as a side project who knows right? I would certainly like to see the outcome of such a task that's for sure just so I could see the outcome, maybe somebody here has videos?
@@deleqtronica8733not true. They tell you from seed is better yield cuz they want you to buy seeds rather than literally perpetually cropping lmao.. but cloning results in an older plant with more volatile growth
This is Really a simple conversation. It's just a belief of mine. Has anyone thought about tissue culture? You can get the tissue culture kit online. No problem to deal with the Genetic material in tissue culture and the plantlets think that they are just born from seed. So when you find that beautiful finatype,taking tissue culture restarts the clock.And therefore you could have a perpetual harvest.It's just the thought.I'm not sure if it's proven but I thought about it! That could be a great video!!!!😊😊 4:20 test tube babies.
I've tried to call them and they kept budding I've tried to call him before they were button and they still butted right away and there's no way of stopping them from budding as soon as they're done cleaning they start button you want to play that buds right away sure but they don't get that big it's just like a little egg corn butt on the top of them they don't usually get big at all it's a good experiment to try if you want to try something but it's not really
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1 thing I've not tried is super cropping. Now next time i think I'll try it. Tried all other ways off growing. Coco soil mix is the best for me. I like to play with the nutes trying to figure out best combos but every time each plant wants it differently.
I've never seen hemp Rudy crosses that turn into good weed. Rudy is hemp. I'd be shocked if someone was able to do it. Been in the game for over 30 years.
Get an auto that has a longer grow cycle and then take all the cuttings you can as soon as possible! If you can get them to root you will have multiple auto plants that can grow at least ½ the size and if you have 8 clones made from 1 auto and each produces about ½ the amount you will STILL end up with 400% more yeild! This is only worth it if you can get them to root fast and the auto strain has a but longer grow time!! Hope someone has had ok results with cloning auto plants?! Normally only new growers grow auto plants though thinking it is easier but the only difference is switching your lights to 12/12 whenever you want which allows for much larger yeilds!!!
I broke a piece off my auto in its early stages by accident. I figured it would not hurt to try and clone it. The plant itself did not grow very big but it did grow one huge I mean huge bud it looked like a small Christmas tree. For me it was worth it. Too bad you cannot post pictures in the comment section.
purpose for what though? 🤔 we clone photos here in nz bc its hard to get the strains here, so once they're in they get passed about via cuts in europe and states etc you guys can easy get seeds, so I get it why autos are popular there but for cloning, na.
depent what kind of auto,,i found some auto that flowers in 20hrs of light,,,but i also find a kind that flowering in 24 hrs of light,,,so it vary a lot...
very hard to stop autoflowering when they flowers in 24 hrs,,but whit some gen that flower whit 18 to 20 hrs,,posssible to stop them and put clones in 24hrs
you can clone them.. and get little single node bud branches.. meaning no its not worth it. autos in general arent worth it, by the time growers are learning how to clone they should have grown out of autos anyways.
Honestly autos for me are faster and jus as good quality as photos. Been using seedsman seeds. Wanna get super high quality next as I see it's all about genes. Not sure when the last time you grew out any autos but the market is getting really good results with autos only. Read about f1 hybrid seeds the other day n wow it's all I can say.
@@dmo848 havent wasted time on seedsman in like 6 years, and autos are NEVER the same quality as photos because the genetics are diluted with the ruderalis trait. you cant really properly use scrog with autos because you cant control when they go in to flower and every bit of pruning stunts them, so you definitely dont get the same weight out of the plants (to me thats also a "quality" factor). i could potentially also get hundreds of plants out of a single seed with photos, i dare you to do it with autos. havent dealt with anyone but humboldt seed company for years now, once you find the best you dont tend to fuck with the rest.. though there is a company in BC that doesnt ship to america that had some seeds i wanted. also.. "faster" is really not a factor to me, id rather fill a 4x4 with 1 gnarly plant than have 4 "cute" little bushes.
@@dmo848 they are definitely NOT "just as good quality" as photos. ALL weed is getting better, that includes autos. the thing is though MOST of the autos have different terpene profiles than the photos do because the ruderalis is part of the genetics and therefore it dilutes the original photo genetics. if gene editing weed starts happening large scale and they can JUST switch the single autoflower trait without changing ANYTHING else about the seeds it could happen, but we arent there yet. seedsman is kind of shit (especially in america where some vendors they sell will not ship here) but if you want to up your game try humboldt. ilgm is very reliable too, but i find their selection lacking and lagging, pacific seedbank has lots of variety but ive had a couple rounds of duds from them too (yea great you get a refund, but you still end up having wasted the time trying to get beans to pop that just dont).
@@dmo848 Yeah it's a lot different these days with some of the new offerings. I recommend Mephisto Mango Smile or Double Grape, and fastbuds Strawberry Gorilla. Not everyone has more than a single tent space, or cares about quantity as much as quality and variety for personal use.
no.. you have 1 normal size plant or you have.. well i frankly doubt hundreds but lets say several little tiny popcorn bud plants. just stick to photos in the first place.
@@megaflux7144 , I had 4 plants that hundreds were cloned off of ! 1988 I have 6 NOW and in the last 2 months I have added 54 clones , All Female , under lights 24 /7 and being fed 24-8-16 plant food . Anything to say now ?
but auto or not,,,from seeds,,even in 24 hrs lights,,the plant gonna show you if male or female,,betwin 5 or 6 weeks,of life,,juste take a good care when begin
@@megaflux7144 i stopped growing for over a year, when i restarted i grew some autos with my photos vegging tent to get a fast harvest. autos have their uses. i also grow outdoors i will be growing some autos to get a early harvest befor the cold sets in i geew these first autos outdoors in December. you cant do that with photos
I have cloned Auto's by Air Layering. The purpose of this was to reverse the cutting with Silver Thiosulphate and produce S1 clones of the donor plant, also to create Auto Hybrids with other plants. Lots of advantages in reversing clone cuttings over full size plants. You can easily keep tiny pollen producing plants away from flowers, collect pollen and take it to the buds you want fertilised. So making a small amount of seed, without damaging yield or quality in your grow.
why the hell would you not just treat a single branch on the plant? air layering would not bypass the auto trait would it (it wouldnt make sense for it to)? even just cloning them normally they go in to flower immediately after sprouting roots (making it easy to treat them anyways).
@@megaflux7144 Treat the branch and your whole plant and the room gets pollinated, I'm not trying to bypass the auto trait, I'm trying to keep control of the pollen. I Air layered co's I couldn't be arsed doing cuttings the normal way, i.e. Setting up a propagator, cloning light, etc. for 1 or 2 cuts. And layering is the least stressful way of taking cuttings for any plant. My aim is to mature one male flower and get enough pollen to stain my finger tip. I then go touch up the girls in just the places I want. Creating between 10 and 30 seed on a plant and not the thousands which result from a blanket pollination. Small numbers of seed also take nothing from the quality of the smoke, heavily seeded bud is usually nothing compared to the Sensi. So that is the hell why I do it this way.
@@megaflux7144 ikr you could do like a sog once out of a few autos but I dont see any point
@@megaflux7144
Because he wants to make s1. Not sure if you have to spray the whole plant or if you can reverse a single branch. He probably didn’t know either so decided to just take and root a cutting or two and just reverse those. He might want to use the pollen to hit other plants as well. At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter. It’s not like taking and rooting a clone costs much. It costs a few pennies each. And rooting a few cuttings takes no effort. Just take em, dip em and stick em and leave em in a propagator for seven to ten days.
@@BeneathTheGold no, you can cover the plant with plastic (bag/tarp/whatever) and spray just 1 branch. that would give you pollen and pollinate the plant in the process (yay free seeds). generally speaking one would take a clone from a healthy plant, i have never considered mutants (which is what autos are) "healthy". it makes more sense to me to do normal clones and start the sts treatment immediately since they go in to flower as soon as you cut them anyways (which is when you are supposed to start treating them). another option would be revegging, but that takes forever. my suspicion is.. since stress or roots hitting something is what triggers flower in autos (as far as i know) air layering would have the new roots hit something and BAM its flower time. if it somehow bypasses that switch being hit then thats awesome and something to be looked in to.
Now I've never tried but I hear it can be done under the right conditions although I've heard many say forget about it.
It can be done
@kushcraft9914 yes I've heard mate, I've never tried it mind and quite a few have said things like it's not worth it or it's hard or it's hit and miss but again I wouldn't know first hand because it's not something I would even wanna try myself I would just rather buy some litte fellas and get germinating if ycmd but maybe one day as a side project who knows right? I would certainly like to see the outcome of such a task that's for sure just so I could see the outcome, maybe somebody here has videos?
The answer is yes ,
I do it all the time ....
Yes you can clone or yes it is worth it???🤔
You don't know? Ppl that can, do. Ppl that cant, fake it and post on UA-cam.
Hi, could you do a video about how-to and results-of selfing autos for auto seeds? thx!
Self-pollinated seeds will yield you hermied seeds.
In other words, don't bother.
4th generation, full sized plants. Pete6724 is a cop.
@owendigity1581 you have a 4th gen cloned autoflower? You'd be the only person in the world.
@@deleqtronica8733not true. They tell you from seed is better yield cuz they want you to buy seeds rather than literally perpetually cropping lmao.. but cloning results in an older plant with more volatile growth
This is
Really a simple conversation. It's just a belief of mine. Has anyone thought about tissue culture? You can get the tissue culture kit online. No problem to deal with the
Genetic material in tissue culture and the plantlets think that they are just born from seed. So when you find that beautiful finatype,taking tissue culture restarts the clock.And therefore you could have a perpetual harvest.It's just the thought.I'm not sure if it's proven but I thought about it! That could be a great video!!!!😊😊 4:20 test tube babies.
I've tried to call them and they kept budding I've tried to call him before they were button and they still butted right away and there's no way of stopping them from budding as soon as they're done cleaning they start button you want to play that buds right away sure but they don't get that big it's just like a little egg corn butt on the top of them they don't usually get big at all it's a good experiment to try if you want to try something but it's not really
curious if autoflower roots would help photoperiod or vice versa via grafting... (thinking)... much like what they do for tomato's.
If taking off a clone 2 weeks before harvest works on an autoflower, imagine grafting a clone to a well established root system.
Weird. I had an email from RQS yesterday that covered the exact same topic.
I had a friend who’s brothers mom didn’t clone autoflowers
and usualy,,auto start flowering aroud 5 to 6 weeks of life no matthers the light,,,so you maystill got times to make clone before des starts flow,,,
u def can clone have done it quite a few times before i heard u couldnt lol
I just snapped a branch doing lst at 3 weeks from a fem auto GG #4 . I just cloned it & I'm going to see what happens
Update? What happened?
@@Twist3dKiid sadly it didn't make it 😔🥀
I just snapped one during lst today so we'll see if she takes off or not
Can you clone off a clone and/or cuttings or auto flower?
Auto flower is not disquise for clone & a cloned phone is cultivater or grows?
Does the London Seed Center have delivery guarantees to the US? Do they replace them if customs seizes them?
Seedsman is good I know and north American seeds co
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1 thing I've not tried is super cropping. Now next time i think I'll try it. Tried all other ways off growing. Coco soil mix is the best for me. I like to play with the nutes trying to figure out best combos but every time each plant wants it differently.
I've never seen hemp Rudy crosses that turn into good weed. Rudy is hemp. I'd be shocked if someone was able to do it. Been in the game for over 30 years.
Get an auto that has a longer grow cycle and then take all the cuttings you can as soon as possible! If you can get them to root you will have multiple auto plants that can grow at least ½ the size and if you have 8 clones made from 1 auto and each produces about ½ the amount you will STILL end up with 400% more yeild! This is only worth it if you can get them to root fast and the auto strain has a but longer grow time!! Hope someone has had ok results with cloning auto plants?! Normally only new growers grow auto plants though thinking it is easier but the only difference is switching your lights to 12/12 whenever you want which allows for much larger yeilds!!!
I broke a piece off my auto in its early stages by accident. I figured it would not hurt to try and clone it. The plant itself did not grow very big but it did grow one huge I mean huge bud it looked like a small Christmas tree. For me it was worth it. Too bad you cannot post pictures in the comment section.
😊 I only grow clones.
But those cuts are on the same timeline as the mother so how do you get more veg time
24/0 blue or white light.
thats exactly what i did. cloning autos has its purposes if you know what you are doing
purpose for what though? 🤔 we clone photos here in nz bc its hard to get the strains here, so once they're in they get passed about via cuts in europe and states etc you guys can easy get seeds, so I get it why autos are popular there but for cloning, na.
@@zweed69 to reverse and collect pollen to make more fem seeds for free instead of constantly buying new seeds
idk canabis still illegal here if it legal i will share this channel to them
education aint illegal
Nerd
depent what kind of auto,,i found some auto that flowers in 20hrs of light,,,but i also find a kind that flowering in 24 hrs of light,,,so it vary a lot...
very hard to stop autoflowering when they flowers in 24 hrs,,but whit some gen that flower whit 18 to 20 hrs,,posssible to stop them and put clones in 24hrs
Wonder if auto clones would still be good for outdoors
It's a waste of time since they will flower at the same time as the mom
Yes & no to answer those two questions.
😂 my reason to clone is because i don't wanna buy more seeds
You could just herm a favorite strain and have a lifetime supply
you can clone them.. and get little single node bud branches.. meaning no its not worth it. autos in general arent worth it, by the time growers are learning how to clone they should have grown out of autos anyways.
Honestly autos for me are faster and jus as good quality as photos. Been using seedsman seeds. Wanna get super high quality next as I see it's all about genes. Not sure when the last time you grew out any autos but the market is getting really good results with autos only. Read about f1 hybrid seeds the other day n wow it's all I can say.
@@dmo848 havent wasted time on seedsman in like 6 years, and autos are NEVER the same quality as photos because the genetics are diluted with the ruderalis trait. you cant really properly use scrog with autos because you cant control when they go in to flower and every bit of pruning stunts them, so you definitely dont get the same weight out of the plants (to me thats also a "quality" factor). i could potentially also get hundreds of plants out of a single seed with photos, i dare you to do it with autos. havent dealt with anyone but humboldt seed company for years now, once you find the best you dont tend to fuck with the rest.. though there is a company in BC that doesnt ship to america that had some seeds i wanted. also.. "faster" is really not a factor to me, id rather fill a 4x4 with 1 gnarly plant than have 4 "cute" little bushes.
@@dmo848 they are definitely NOT "just as good quality" as photos. ALL weed is getting better, that includes autos. the thing is though MOST of the autos have different terpene profiles than the photos do because the ruderalis is part of the genetics and therefore it dilutes the original photo genetics. if gene editing weed starts happening large scale and they can JUST switch the single autoflower trait without changing ANYTHING else about the seeds it could happen, but we arent there yet. seedsman is kind of shit (especially in america where some vendors they sell will not ship here) but if you want to up your game try humboldt. ilgm is very reliable too, but i find their selection lacking and lagging, pacific seedbank has lots of variety but ive had a couple rounds of duds from them too (yea great you get a refund, but you still end up having wasted the time trying to get beans to pop that just dont).
@@dmo848 Yeah it's a lot different these days with some of the new offerings. I recommend Mephisto Mango Smile or Double Grape, and fastbuds Strawberry Gorilla. Not everyone has more than a single tent space, or cares about quantity as much as quality and variety for personal use.
Yes you can. And no, probably not worth it. Unless you want a cute little plant on your desk for a month.
Hate to tell u guys but my clone did better then the mother auto lol so yes u can and do better also
i have cloned several with success also . I have not made it to harvest yet but the yield looks to be a good one
@allGnb that's what's up yo hell yeah keep up the good work
Hey dude what week did you cut the clone??
@@Twist3dKiid week 2
Is it worth it ?
I have one plant or i have hundreds of plants .
I think that it is worth it !
no.. you have 1 normal size plant or you have.. well i frankly doubt hundreds but lets say several little tiny popcorn bud plants. just stick to photos in the first place.
@@megaflux7144 , I had 4 plants that hundreds were cloned off of ! 1988
I have 6 NOW and in the last 2 months I have added 54 clones ,
All Female , under lights 24 /7 and being fed 24-8-16 plant food .
Anything to say now ?
@@megaflux7144 , I turned 6 into 54
54
+6
60 Female Plants
They deleted my comment !
My comment said,
I started with 6 plants , I cloned 54 and now I have 60 😂
but auto or not,,,from seeds,,even in 24 hrs lights,,the plant gonna show you if male or female,,betwin 5 or 6 weeks,of life,,juste take a good care when begin
If your a real expert can I speak in the future content? Cause I'm English my name is Eden Shorthouse
Can you clone autoflowers? Yes.
Is it worth it? No. It will actually lessen your over all yeild.
There I’ve saved you the trouble of watching it.
Cheers
fascinating
Ruderslis=Bunk
explain..?
@@YodaMan-420 i dont know what they are going to say but for one thing it corrupts the genetics it mixes with.
i used to think that. i just harvested my first auto it was surprisingly good. I've been growing photos for over ten years
@@weilam03 why would you stop? going from photos to autos is like putting the training wheels back on your bike.
@@megaflux7144 i stopped growing for over a year, when i restarted i grew some autos with my photos vegging tent to get a fast harvest. autos have their uses. i also grow outdoors i will be growing some autos to get a early harvest befor the cold sets in
i geew these first autos outdoors in December. you cant do that with photos
Bill ward
Hard pass. You need to be able to manipulate the vegetative phase of the cultivar to successfully propagate it.
No
Auto’s aren’t as potent as regular cannabis
Absolutely a false statement lol.
Damn false indeed
I would say autos are more potent but photoperiods yield more and taste better
Why are we still discussing this?
In a word , NO .
Junk
No its not worth it
Short answer yes u can no its not worth it
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