"DeepSeek CANNOT Be Trusted" - Rep. Ro Khanna WARNS About China’s AI Takeover!

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  • This PBD Podcast clip explores the implications of Nvidia's record-breaking $600 billion market cap loss, sparked by the emergence of China's DeepSeek AI. The discussion covers AI competition, the role of U.S. startups, open-source innovation, global tech rivalry, and the strategic challenges in maintaining U.S. dominance in the AI race.
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  • @satinderbank4607
    @satinderbank4607 8 днів тому +980

    "DeepSeek CANNOT Be Trusted" - Hmmm.... and Google, Meta AI can be ? Best comedy line of the decade

    • @JohnChu-z4w
      @JohnChu-z4w 8 днів тому +36

      U.S. court ruling certifies that Apple's Siri eavesdropped and secretly recorded user conversations

    • @PlanetCHINA.1
      @PlanetCHINA.1 8 днів тому +7

      from a brainless ..

    • @rajuchiluvuri4716
      @rajuchiluvuri4716 8 днів тому

      If you can't trust CIA and deep state, how can you trust open source software

    • @peterbelanger4094
      @peterbelanger4094 8 днів тому

      Anything tainted by CCP ideology & culture can not be trusted. China can't be trusted.

    • @peterbelanger4094
      @peterbelanger4094 8 днів тому

      Anything

  • @Dangic23
    @Dangic23 8 днів тому +938

    Same goes for Open AI, Meta, Google, etc.
    Can’t be trusted.

    • @GodLovesYou828
      @GodLovesYou828 8 днів тому +30

      Yes all evil, even government

    • @ghost-writer007
      @ghost-writer007 8 днів тому +15

      Apple microsoft

    • @John-b6u5b
      @John-b6u5b 8 днів тому

      An Indian talking trash about Chinese products, who would have guessed?

    • @CarportCarl
      @CarportCarl 8 днів тому

      They all need to face Treason charges. The executives

    • @jaycdp
      @jaycdp 8 днів тому +17

      This is not cold war, Now in every village every kid will start innovating, that means end of corporate greed and golden age for poor people with no brain damage with junk food and obesity

  • @mgs5241
    @mgs5241 8 днів тому +722

    China just exposed America’s multi billion dollar AI scam. 😂😂😂 Those greedy billionaires in silicon valley must be pissed. 😂😂😂 Good job China.

    • @PlanetCHINA.1
      @PlanetCHINA.1 8 днів тому

      it's even run up to trillions...corruption exposed

    • @TinaA-ob4rr
      @TinaA-ob4rr 8 днів тому +32

      I hate to agree but I do.

    • @kaleeysmith8801
      @kaleeysmith8801 8 днів тому

      yup, but FACIST america, will twist this truth into a narrative against china......... watch how fast western media and social media companies like valutainment, twist this into propaganda against chinese, and the american SHEEP people will eat up the lies, just like 100 other lies in the past. ONLY difference is, the lies against china and russia will get america nuked.

    • @aziziborhan7121
      @aziziborhan7121 8 днів тому +21

      agree. too much corruption among them. all money goes to them

    • @JCSY1
      @JCSY1 8 днів тому +4

      @@mgs5241 Do more with less. 😂😂😂

  • @richardlabeja
    @richardlabeja 7 днів тому +165

    A year ago they said China was 10 years behind US in AI, then last month they said China was 5 years behind, then here we are in January 2025 with DeepSeek. Never underestimate your competition.

    • @nammoadidaphat52
      @nammoadidaphat52 7 днів тому

      Watch out for propaganda for political agendas of CCP!

    • @Roberto-kc8tx
      @Roberto-kc8tx 6 днів тому +11

      Next they will be saying China is 10 years ahead 😅😅😅!!!

    • @brianye964
      @brianye964 6 днів тому

      ​@@Roberto-kc8txthey will not say that. More likely they will say, China stole our technology which we will be developing in 10 years.

    • @ashleybanks-wm4cg
      @ashleybanks-wm4cg 6 днів тому

      That's because of Corporate espionage China has robbed America of a lot of opportunities with this Yu should be worried not making jokes China just stole our work and copied our homework that should make you mad

    • @donelltarver7371
      @donelltarver7371 6 днів тому +1

      They are 😂😂

  • @MrChenjinyuan
    @MrChenjinyuan 7 днів тому +73

    Read the writing on the wall
    1. US excluded China from Space station fraternity. Now China has its own
    2. China leads technology in High speed trains. US does not have any
    3. China is leader in alt. Energy especially solar and wind technology
    4. American motor industry is basically non existent
    China leads in the Electric Vehicle market
    5. US tried to resrict Huawei. Huawei has gone from strength to strength
    6. Now we have Deepseek which is s start up research AI company which hss put all the hyped up Ai related tech companies.
    7. China continues to inovate and surprise. US competes via sanctions and tarriffs

    • @livefree1030
      @livefree1030 6 днів тому +7

      You forgot how far the Chang'e program is. US is still on Artemis 1 and it's delayed another 3 years from being delayed 5.
      Chinas Chang'e is already on Chang'e 8 (3d printing a base on the dark side of the moon)

    • @donelltarver7371
      @donelltarver7371 6 днів тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @dalazycheapskate
      @dalazycheapskate 5 днів тому +5

      The word in China is America is helping them improve with all the restrictions. It helps them get stronger and innovate out of necessity

    • @144kGz
      @144kGz 5 днів тому +3

      💯

    • @josephmwamlima2377
      @josephmwamlima2377 3 дні тому

      ​@@dalazycheapskate Not surprised an Indian guy is with these guys. India is basically so far behind china that people like him are not happy.

  • @sheenoreiki7843
    @sheenoreiki7843 8 днів тому +675

    Deepseek is open sourced whereas OpenAI isn't, we obviously know which is the dangerous one

    • @bleak83
      @bleak83 8 днів тому +4

      I would ask people to to watch glenn beck's video on his conversation with deepseek

    • @user-vh8yn9cc9h
      @user-vh8yn9cc9h 8 днів тому

      Yes DeepSeek, the CCP spyware

    • @aes9217
      @aes9217 8 днів тому +25

      If you dont like how it responds you can retrain it yourself with 70% less powerful GPUs. Thats the power of open source software

    • @GodLovesYou828
      @GodLovesYou828 8 днів тому +3

      All ai is evil

    • @sheenoreiki7843
      @sheenoreiki7843 8 днів тому +13

      @@bleak83 I would trust fireship over him on this matter

  • @TingMo-n4i
    @TingMo-n4i 8 днів тому +483

    I will trust Chinese AI over Meta and google

    • @MoisesRosarioHernandezshort
      @MoisesRosarioHernandezshort 8 днів тому +10

      Meet too

    • @phoenixrising164
      @phoenixrising164 8 днів тому +4

      😂

    • @FreeSpeech-z6j
      @FreeSpeech-z6j 7 днів тому

      nice try yellow wu mao, we are not accepting "free speech" from ccp 50 cent army.

    • @jwren51
      @jwren51 7 днів тому

      In the UK there's about 3,000 people in jail for social media posts. I doubt they were using Chinese apps or were reported by the CCP. 😅

    • @WebStixx0000
      @WebStixx0000 7 днів тому +1

      Joker

  • @georgeyawopoku4639
    @georgeyawopoku4639 8 днів тому +457

    As usual and always, everything about China cannot be trusted, pathetic for the US when it comes to competetion.

    • @plastilina2007
      @plastilina2007 8 днів тому

      The big moneys guys already are ready to invest in DeepSeek. No loyalty to USA

    • @garfraaccounting4010
      @garfraaccounting4010 8 днів тому +22

      It's seems that's the only excuse our politicians can say. I think is another way to tell us China is ahead in that area.

    • @ksw7259
      @ksw7259 8 днів тому +13

      Arrogant .cannot lose, always want to win.

    • @LordHeroMc
      @LordHeroMc 8 днів тому +9

      You realize American apps are banned in China right 😂😭

    • @user-ot2nh8qb7d
      @user-ot2nh8qb7d 8 днів тому +4

      @@garfraaccounting4010Because these things are way too technical for them and above their heads.

  • @SuccessSecretsTV
    @SuccessSecretsTV 7 днів тому +38

    I trust Facebook, Google, and OpenCloseAi. Now you know im a fool.

  • @kornbob2665
    @kornbob2665 8 днів тому +37

    Thankyou China for the OPEN SOURCE DeepSeek.

  • @d1btd3265
    @d1btd3265 8 днів тому +574

    You can run it on your own laptop, without it accessing the internet. No data leaves your control. This is fearmongering on behalf of openai.

    • @j.c.4192
      @j.c.4192 8 днів тому +60

      these guys has there bets on team US a long time ago. They are just doing damage control and pump it back up while they sell and hedge.

    • @brendandeery5705
      @brendandeery5705 8 днів тому +32

      Exactly. If deepseek can be used to train your own data on your own servers for less expense than US competitors then naturally companies will use the cheapest option.

    • @sophiahcq1282
      @sophiahcq1282 8 днів тому

      Would you please have common sense little bit? CCP lied about their rockets have landed on the moon where the area no light no one can see. Xi told Trump when summer comes the virus will go away ! Why we lost memories so fast? Tiktok must banned it makes Americans lost common sense ! Bcz they lost the ability to think buy directly acceptable to all lies.

    • @vladeputinovic6128
      @vladeputinovic6128 8 днів тому

      "progressive" khana in fear mongering.... hypocrite trash

    • @Red_Flags_Reactions
      @Red_Flags_Reactions 8 днів тому +28

      They invested so money in Nvidia that’s why they are downing DeepSeek, but Nvidia is already down 1 trillion 😂😂😂

  • @NorthTonawanda1
    @NorthTonawanda1 8 днів тому +94

    It's the American way, call what they're doing evil, justify spending billions to combat it. I hate this aspect of America.

  • @kevinyong8095
    @kevinyong8095 8 днів тому +183

    How can the world trust anything about the USA

    • @TheCbins
      @TheCbins 8 днів тому +4

      100%

    • @polyseed12
      @polyseed12 7 днів тому +7

      We are closed for business. We will reopen in 2075.

    • @GGLEDOU
      @GGLEDOU 7 днів тому

      The world can trust the US when it comes to sanctions, tariffs, regime change, wars, and so on.

    • @Caged63Man
      @Caged63Man 7 днів тому +6

      You mean United States of Israel!?

    • @marksmanships
      @marksmanships 7 днів тому

      and you trust China more? If so, how are they better?

  • @MrRajaGamer100k
    @MrRajaGamer100k 7 днів тому +600

    Qardun has two of the largest Tesla shareholders already; most likely something is coming

  • @minimale3243
    @minimale3243 8 днів тому +21

    Deepseek is OPEN SOURCE. It means anyone can look at the source code, modify and customise it to their hearts content even. It'll be pretty stupid if they coded it to do malicious things and then leave it completely out in the open for the whole world to see, dont you think? Also since its open source you can remove anything from the source code you may think is suspicious. So the whole trust issue is a non starter. Secondly they also published a technical paper elaborating how they managed to train deepseek with the claimed resources and funds and some people who are already testing and replicating the process seem to think the numbers are legit. Lastly the utterly blinkered comment about it being biased towards China is hilarious. Just cause it replies that chinese people love their president? Has it even occured to the person that it gives that reply cause its True? Yes, Chinese people like their president xi jing ping. Just because it doesnt give you the answer you want doesnt mean its biased. Maybe get some people who know about tech to discuss next time. What a disastrous discussion.

  • @HarveyChenBlog
    @HarveyChenBlog 8 днів тому +332

    China: deepseek!
    World: deepshock!
    Silicon Valley: deepwreck!
    Investors: deepshit!
    Geopoliticians: deepsick! 😂😂😂😂

  • @Donut16367
    @Donut16367 8 днів тому +292

    I’m glad that technology is in the hands of civilization.

    • @keepingittight
      @keepingittight 8 днів тому +23

      HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR

    • @bang8534
      @bang8534 8 днів тому

      You are right, it's firmly in the hands of a 5000 Year Chinese civilization; and out of the robber barons in silicon valley who are parasites

    • @spooky99
      @spooky99 7 днів тому +3

      that's why Tom's argument sounds like oligarchs

    • @SumTingWong888
      @SumTingWong888 7 днів тому

      Lol, not china

    • @ThereYouAreT1
      @ThereYouAreT1 7 днів тому +2

      ​@@keepingittight❤❤

  • @AustinJohnson-zv5hy
    @AustinJohnson-zv5hy 8 днів тому +241

    I love when non-technical people say things they don't understand about technical issues.

    • @davidmendez528
      @davidmendez528 7 днів тому +8

      Adam is clueless 😅

    • @GGLEDOU
      @GGLEDOU 7 днів тому

      Like this chatpati Rep.

    • @woogieboogie3889
      @woogieboogie3889 7 днів тому +1

      That's 99.9 percent of the comment section. I had no idea we had so many God like polymaths with PHds. You wanna know why we have problems just read what these goobers write.

    • @omphilemathole4450
      @omphilemathole4450 7 днів тому +6

      Remember, Podcasters want to be first to upload content, without fact checking. Thats why many podcasts recycle guests and topics, with no substance, chasing the buck over quality of content.

    • @baejisoozy
      @baejisoozy 7 днів тому +5

      spot on. These luddites are absolutely dodo brained when it comes to the tech.

  • @cellmate69
    @cellmate69 8 днів тому +38

    It’s so painful to hear a non-technology person discussing field they don’t even understand. DeepSeek make the AI to run on lower computing machine and they make it open source. So every small company or individual can already access the AI technology with small budget. No longer need the highest powerful chip. The technology already democratise by Chinese engineers. With open source you can use and modify and make profit from it. US gov no longer need to spend 500B for the Stargate project as now AI tech is cheaper. Thanks for DeepSeek.

  • @jyotisangale4199
    @jyotisangale4199 7 днів тому +810

    $Qardun yet has to really hit mainstream media guys

  • @ShadowBlack-vh5ed
    @ShadowBlack-vh5ed 8 днів тому +100

    Warmongering...now Fearmongering 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @albuquerquehotspot7835
    @albuquerquehotspot7835 8 днів тому +254

    Bruh DeepSeek is open source and explained their process plainly. Cmon.

    • @Jimmybucketzz
      @Jimmybucketzz 8 днів тому +9

      Boomers are not techy, unless they are nerds, open source dont mean shit

    • @SIR_RR
      @SIR_RR 8 днів тому +3

      Ask it about Tiananmen uhummm

    • @debianlasmana8794
      @debianlasmana8794 8 днів тому +8

      @@SIR_RR
      ask about palestinian right in gpt without making ite "complex issue"

    • @Anderson-f4t6c
      @Anderson-f4t6c 8 днів тому +4

      ​@@SIR_RR But that's the best part of open source.
      You can teach it put out most viIe, racist anti Chinese output. If it makes you sleep any better😂😂

    • @SIR_RR
      @SIR_RR 8 днів тому

      @@debianlasmana8794 Tiananmen is so simple and not that complex, if you know how to read.
      And you can ask gtp about Palestinian and Israeli there's no limit about it.. what you talkin.

  • @TheContrarianThinker-S0
    @TheContrarianThinker-S0 8 днів тому +196

    Asking a Chinese app if it is biased, towards the Country's Premier, is like Adam asking ChatGPT if Netanyahoo is as good a Human Being, as he thinks he is 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @VCR0010
      @VCR0010 8 днів тому +13

      Facts they just hating

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 8 днів тому +5

      The deepseek released is their version, of course they would put limitations when it comes to chinese politics. But anybody can get the codes and fine tune it (modify) according to the limitations they personally want.

    • @DukeLM
      @DukeLM 8 днів тому +1

      It all depends on the training

    • @polyseed12
      @polyseed12 7 днів тому

      its open AI.

    • @72dew
      @72dew 4 дні тому

      The censorship comes from the service (front end) not the model (back end). Proof: just change the language of the question.
      Good thing about open source is that you can just have the model.

  • @ElangbamMotilalSingh
    @ElangbamMotilalSingh 7 днів тому +33

    China is the future 👍👍

  • @GSanthosh-rm3sp
    @GSanthosh-rm3sp 7 днів тому +670

    Walmart, Amazon and Trump support? Qardun is going to 500x no doubt... I just hope there is not too many insiders

  • @spaceorbison
    @spaceorbison 8 днів тому +321

    How can it be a "takeover" if its free and open source?

    • @nicholasfrancoeur3897
      @nicholasfrancoeur3897 8 днів тому +7

      You are missing the point !

    • @albuquerquehotspot7835
      @albuquerquehotspot7835 8 днів тому +76

      @@nicholasfrancoeur3897no he’s not 😂 which is why you can’t explain one.

    • @ryang6222
      @ryang6222 8 днів тому +8

      Exactly right.

    • @Hotshotman
      @Hotshotman 8 днів тому

      Because nobody will pay for your expensive and shitty shit when a better shit is free.

    • @bigbigdog
      @bigbigdog 8 днів тому +3

      What IS the point?

  • @croat1455
    @croat1455 8 днів тому +210

    Snowden proved that your side is not good guy that you trust.

    • @guhoya19
      @guhoya19 8 днів тому +2

      He did it for sure

    • @cromBumny
      @cromBumny 8 днів тому +2

      But Chyna is better? Lol...right

    • @meekmeads
      @meekmeads 8 днів тому

      Chinese Asset

    • @guhoya19
      @guhoya19 8 днів тому

      @@cromBumny Way better. China does not bomb other countries. The US has waged so many wars in the past few decades, killing directly and indirectly millions of civilians (source: Brown University the costs of war project) and pretending nothing happened. Of course, Americans either don’t know or don’t care because those civilians are just numbers to them. So yeah, Uncle Sam wins in terms of the number of civilians killed. Be proud of yourself

    • @ChristopherCopeland
      @ChristopherCopeland 8 днів тому

      To all the replies to this- it’s not that the others are “better”, it’s just f-k our government for pretending like they’re the good guys 😊 lie to our face and pretend like we’re safer in their hands than “our” enemies

  • @juliansmulian
    @juliansmulian 8 днів тому +94

    Open source is the answer. The lack of open source in Android is the #1 reason for no major tech advances on phones since Google closed it. Apple hasn't pushed innovation in at least a decade and this is why your iPhone is just a prettier version of your old iPhone with a slightly more powerful chip. Open source is also a big reason crypto has exploded in market value.

  • @CitizenEa
    @CitizenEa 8 днів тому +15

    "CANNOT BE TRUSTED?!" As a developer already building on Deepseek models, I-DON'T-CARE!

  • @Rolaax24
    @Rolaax24 8 днів тому +20

    Deepseek is open sourced and even some African countries can launch similar to Deepseek Ai models with little money.
    Trump's 500b investment for a large data center is dead on arrival at white house parking lot.

  • @DrojanaleTorvic
    @DrojanaleTorvic 8 днів тому +150

    The American empire is declining and Americans can barely notice it 😂😂😂

    • @prettyorangesea
      @prettyorangesea 8 днів тому +4

      in deep sleep stupor

    • @kingscorpion26m
      @kingscorpion26m 8 днів тому

      😂😂😂 America is not a empire

    • @nonsoenwelim9731
      @nonsoenwelim9731 8 днів тому +10

      They’re too obnoxious to see it….well no one can stay ontop forever 🤷‍♂️

    • @TheCbins
      @TheCbins 8 днів тому +2

      @@nonsoenwelim9731 100%

    • @polyseed12
      @polyseed12 7 днів тому

      Half the U.S. knows but the other half is too busy licking Trumps boot to notice.

  • @FlyingScot911
    @FlyingScot911 8 днів тому +105

    As of yesterday I'm running the DeepSeek 32B version on my laptop. Now I'm integrating our databases with it offline keeping our app and database secure. I haven't been able to do anything like this until now due to cost. Now I have an open source model with no cost.

    • @arigatoSev7en
      @arigatoSev7en 7 днів тому +3

      Imagine you could start a small ai consultancy business with it and help companies bring ai on board 😮

    • @crackatinee351
      @crackatinee351 7 днів тому

      And what does it do for you?
      Did it revolutionise your business?
      I bet not much

  • @abdulmalikbadamasi3069
    @abdulmalikbadamasi3069 8 днів тому +187

    usa always crying when lagging behind

    • @MaigreMou
      @MaigreMou 8 днів тому +5

      US obsession to always be the no.1 for everything....at the end I'm not worried about Nvidia, Microsoft, etc. they are diversified companies they will do ok.

    • @mousepurple1713
      @mousepurple1713 8 днів тому

      Abdul Malik from the shithole Middle East 😂

    • @Brainbuster
      @Brainbuster 8 днів тому +1

      Because China piggy backs USA research.

    • @anashasan9263
      @anashasan9263 8 днів тому

      ​@@MaigreMouyes,they will do ok,thats why their stock free falling.

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 8 днів тому +15

      @@MaigreMou They want to be or remain number 1 not by working hard but by stopping others from innovating.

  • @KrishDhole-n6u
    @KrishDhole-n6u 7 днів тому +798

    Good luck everyone that holds Qardun probably a guaranteed profit at launch

  • @anitasaini1298
    @anitasaini1298 7 днів тому +796

    Musk's Qardun announcement is coming soon. Easyest money if you get in on the ICO

  • @codasm
    @codasm 8 днів тому +114

    I trust the Chinese AI more than the Americans chat GTP any day of the week

    • @GodLovesYou828
      @GodLovesYou828 8 днів тому

      They are both evil spirits

    • @Pulgoso1
      @Pulgoso1 8 днів тому +3

      Wow. That's a real bizarre conviction. You should live in china if that's your sincere position. And you don't.

    • @2realink279
      @2realink279 8 днів тому

      @@Pulgoso1yes!

    • @debianlasmana8794
      @debianlasmana8794 8 днів тому +8

      @@Pulgoso1 well...living in american isn't that heavenlly either

    • @Lu_90s
      @Lu_90s 8 днів тому +3

      @@Pulgoso1so people are not allowed to trust what they believe? 😂

  • @12350francois
    @12350francois 8 днів тому +70

    It’s more like this channel can’t be trusted

    • @eleghari
      @eleghari 8 днів тому +8

      This channel SHOULD NOT be trusted. And the fact that PBD is a scammer has been proven time and again 😂

    • @nowie4007
      @nowie4007 7 днів тому +2

      Damn 😂😂

    • @mr.edwvrd
      @mr.edwvrd 6 днів тому +3

      Exactly, Patrick is a clown

  • @RobertRatliff
    @RobertRatliff 8 днів тому +159

    Great move for ai. Open-source is always the way to go.

    • @Brainbuster
      @Brainbuster 8 днів тому +19

      For the uninitiated, OpenAI is NOT open, despite the name. Deep Seek is open source.

    • @appaloosa42
      @appaloosa42 8 днів тому +1

      Do you teally think it’s not biased?

    • @Anderson-f4t6c
      @Anderson-f4t6c 8 днів тому +3

      ​@@appaloosa42It is. But that's the best part of open source. You can teach it put out most viIe, racist anti Chinese output. If it makes you sleep any better

    • @JeremySMJ
      @JeremySMJ 8 днів тому

      Yeah what these guys said about Deepseek being pro China is pointless for multiple reasons.
      1) its open source and you can make a version called DeepFake that says whatver you want about China
      2) China is very transparent about its censorship so you know what information wont be accurate
      3) America AI and internet is filled with far more random fake and censored info.
      Last year, when i tried, ChatGPT would not right a story where Trump was the hero because it cannot participate in political issues but immediately did the same prompt about Obama and Biden. Americans are actually far more censored than Chinese people because China is just open about it. Americans arent even aware of the bubble they are trapped inside. Deepseek should be trusted far more than any American released AI systems, especially if open sourced

    • @RobertRatliff
      @RobertRatliff 7 днів тому +3

      @appaloosa42 who cares it is better than openai

  • @AnilKumar-ns1vm
    @AnilKumar-ns1vm 7 днів тому +256

    I am in Qardun with everything

  • @Corpselordx
    @Corpselordx 6 днів тому +7

    If it's between the CIA or CCP spying on me, I would go with CCP on any day 😂

  • @newworldorder9891
    @newworldorder9891 8 днів тому +123

    hahaha, only politicians said China is a threat. Scientists and the common people said , its NOT .

    • @griefg2967
      @griefg2967 8 днів тому

      Scientists can not be trusted.

    • @MrMaguuuuuuuuu
      @MrMaguuuuuuuuu 8 днів тому +1

      Covid says ni hao

    • @MrJermson
      @MrJermson 8 днів тому +10

      @@MrMaguuuuuuuuu Wow. This is the only intelligent reply you can come out with? Our country is in deep shit.

    • @justicerules1373
      @justicerules1373 8 днів тому

      ​@@MrJermson, every time anyone who said the truth about China, UA-cam either censored that person or western paid bots would attack that person fierciously!

    • @URnignorant
      @URnignorant 8 днів тому +2

      @@MrJermsonyet people forgot and moved on so fast.

  • @lucasa1059
    @lucasa1059 8 днів тому +87

    Go China !!!! 🇨🇳

    • @SIR_RR
      @SIR_RR 8 днів тому +1

      Chinas enemy is china itself, lol victimization card again

  • @paulaitix77
    @paulaitix77 8 днів тому +56

    khanna doesn't know what he's talking about, good grief

    • @harisabram4767
      @harisabram4767 8 днів тому +3

      Khanna is an Indian, the Chinese due to their economic and military power, are always a threat to them.

    • @peterg0
      @peterg0 7 днів тому +2

      @@harisabram4767 Because some parts of indian land belonged to China before Indian master british invading that region ....

    • @liengamier3290
      @liengamier3290 7 днів тому

      Khanna know about india

    • @HIIIBEAR
      @HIIIBEAR 7 днів тому

      😂 you dont understand what he’s saying. Compute is literally the only thing we have over China, India, Japan. Please look into what is actually happening. Its embarrassing seeing humans with access to the same info not see basic logic

  • @lebohang8405
    @lebohang8405 7 днів тому +8

    America is yesterday in all areas of life and tech while China is tomorrow!!

  • @mansinghyadav3318
    @mansinghyadav3318 7 днів тому +739

    Trump has announced a new coin $Qardun

  • @shik4488
    @shik4488 8 днів тому +57

    Yes we cant trist China but we can TOTALLY trust American companies not to abuse their data access, even though they already do right now

    • @mrtee1211
      @mrtee1211 8 днів тому

      I trust the Chinese more than I trust Elon H Musk with my data!!!

  • @branbozic
    @branbozic 8 днів тому +31

    China, China, China! National Security! 😂
    The same and very predictable responses from the US whenever China does ANYTHING that's better 😂
    The US is falling behind in competing!

  • @roque-au-parcus
    @roque-au-parcus 8 днів тому +34

    Coming from a software engineer, this guest has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.

  • @googoogooman
    @googoogooman 8 днів тому +9

    Competition is good, and Deepseek is great.

    • @FIRSTASIAN
      @FIRSTASIAN 7 днів тому

      U can build a car by yourself from scratch, does that sound right?

  • @hansonhughes684
    @hansonhughes684 8 днів тому +38

    I lost over $80k when everything started to tank. Not because I was in an exchange that went belly up. I was just stupid to hold and because that's what everyone said. I'm still responsible. It just taught me to be a better investor now that I understand more of what could go wrong. It took me over two years of being in the market, I'm really grateful I found one source to recover my money, at least $10k profits weekly. Thanks Veronica Hoy

    • @Camillalambertilee2123
      @Camillalambertilee2123 8 днів тому

      Wow. I'm a bit perplexed seeing her been mentioned here also Didn’t know she has been good to so many people too this is wonderful, I'm in my fifth trade with her and it has been super.

    • @Lunlun07
      @Lunlun07 8 днів тому

      She is my family's personal Broker and also a personal Broker to many families in the United states, she is a licensed broker and a FINRA AGENT in the United States.

    • @Alfonsosilva6
      @Alfonsosilva6 8 днів тому

      You trade with Veronica Hoy too? Wow that woman has been a blessing to me and my family.

    • @ChristophAdino12w2
      @ChristophAdino12w2 8 днів тому

      I'm new at this, please how can I reach her?

    • @ThomasGuirgio1
      @ThomasGuirgio1 8 днів тому

      I was skeptical at first till I decided to try. Its huge returns is awesome. I can't say much

  • @purplechum9
    @purplechum9 8 днів тому +54

    How smug the Americans talking heads are. Can't stand that China is kicking butt and we aren't the cats' meow.

    • @grlnexdoorable
      @grlnexdoorable 8 днів тому +1

      Bot

    • @purplechum9
      @purplechum9 8 днів тому +1

      @@grlnexdoorable Not

    • @GodLovesYou828
      @GodLovesYou828 8 днів тому

      All these governments are ridiculous

    • @jeffwads
      @jeffwads 8 днів тому +2

      @@grlnexdoorablenot a bot just not very bright.

    • @SmikeyDeeson
      @SmikeyDeeson 7 днів тому

      Where are the Chinese on this subject? Why aren't we allowed to communicate with each other? It appears neither country will permit it. Reminds me of the USSR, but over here.

  • @beekeeper937
    @beekeeper937 8 днів тому +43

    It's interesting how much the origin of an AI model can shape how people perceive it. Imagine if a powerful LLM like DeepSeek had been developed in a Scandinavian country, would it face the same scrutiny or speculation about hidden agendas?
    We often forget that developers, no matter where they’re based, aren’t just extensions of their governments. Sure, the Chinese government might have more access to DeepSeek because of where it’s developed, but that’s not unique to China. The U.S. (with intelligence agencies leveraging tech firms), Israel (with close ties between the military and tech), and France (with its state-supported industries) all have varying levels of government involvement in private companies too.
    The key difference here is that DeepSeek is open source, which means anyone can review its code and training for potential bias. Plus, with the accessibility of specialized hardware like Groq's LPU, or companies like Perplexity AI building their own models, DeepSeek can be run outside its country of origin. Its birthplace doesn’t dictate where it operates or how it’s used.
    Instead of judging technology by where it comes from, let’s focus on what it can do and how it can drive innovation. Allowing bias to cloud our perspective only holds back progress and prevents fair evaluation.

    • @SmikeyDeeson
      @SmikeyDeeson 7 днів тому

      Which version was rolled out and China? Let's see what they think.

  • @RobertRatliff
    @RobertRatliff 8 днів тому +34

    DeepSeek is fine

  • @osamazayed8480
    @osamazayed8480 8 днів тому +47

    This channel loves free market until there’s a competitor from outside of the US

    • @AnaLissansky
      @AnaLissansky 8 днів тому +9

      At the amazing price of ZERO this model is actually the best value

    • @JesusEsDios007
      @JesusEsDios007 8 днів тому +10

      OpenAI is close source and deep seek is open source. That tells you everything.

    • @73oxen
      @73oxen 8 днів тому +8

      Yup, the arrogance suddenly got smacked. especially on Patrick.

    • @73oxen
      @73oxen 8 днів тому +4

      Americans here talks too much. Loud and no wisdom. Too bad Ro.....

    • @MO_603
      @MO_603 8 днів тому

      Every country is, and should be, nationalistic, unless they are stupid.

  • @rdzhang
    @rdzhang 8 днів тому +42

    Those hosts don't understand differences between open sources and proprietary. If the app is an open source nothing is hidden. It doesn't matter which country or people who wrote the source code. Period.

    • @brewcity2317
      @brewcity2317 8 днів тому +7

      Correct.
      And if everyone on Earth uses less expensive AI that is just as good as American astronomically expensive AI, then the USA simply loses.

    • @SmikeyDeeson
      @SmikeyDeeson 7 днів тому

      Yeah, but Triads though.

  • @murphy7-x3y
    @murphy7-x3y 8 днів тому +47

    Rep. Ro Khanna's warning about Deepseek being dangerous because it's made by the Chinese is like saying chopsticks are dangerous because they're made in China. It's not just ignorant; it's a whole new level of cluelessness. 🤣😂😅

    • @joycegoins8221
      @joycegoins8221 8 днів тому

      This is the same kind of fear monger they say about TT and we are on RED NOTE and so far we don’t see anything happened to our DATA. Allegedly MARK was accused of selling our data that one of the reasons he changed from Facebook to Meta.

    • @level1selamat155
      @level1selamat155 8 днів тому +1

      Tamilian or Malayalam

    • @URnignorant
      @URnignorant 8 днів тому

      china ccp has deep hatred towards US and they can’t inflict harm to US militarily but through cheap subsidized
      manufacturing and İP theft. Common people have no idea what ccp schema for the long.
      I never forget after 911 I witnessed that one of the ccp general openly praised and said it was cool during a school meeting.

    • @michaelotieno6524
      @michaelotieno6524 7 днів тому +4

      It is even dumber than that it is like saying you don't trust your local Chinese food outlet because it sells Chinese food.

    • @mubarizsalim
      @mubarizsalim 7 днів тому +1

      Ro Khanna is P jeet

  • @HarryBungle
    @HarryBungle 7 днів тому +7

    what happens if you ask US AI about who started the Vietnam war, Iraq war and the Ukrainian conflict?....and what nation is the biggest mass murderers in history?? will it tell the truth??

  • @ALuizRG
    @ALuizRG 7 днів тому +3

    The truth is that the Chinese government works for the well-being of the people, while the American government works to make millionaires-like this one-even richer. That’s why all these millions in investments end up in the pockets of millionaires.
    In other words, American policy is designed to create a few millionaires, while Chinese policy is focused on improving people's lives.

  • @Luiz-w5s
    @Luiz-w5s 8 днів тому +33

    If they could do it with a less modern chip and just 6M in investiment, imagine what they could do with US level investiment. Once they develop their own modern chip, it's over for the US in the tech sector. They produce millions of STEM profissionals per year.

    • @BenjaBoss
      @BenjaBoss 8 днів тому +3

      1.5 million stem graduates, US 500k graduates. Because our primary public schools are antiquated and have no investment in our precious children. None. College free in China

    • @JCSY1
      @JCSY1 8 днів тому +2

      To defeat China, the US needs at least USD 50 Trillions, not USD 500 Billions. 😂

    • @JCSY1
      @JCSY1 8 днів тому +3

      ​@@BenjaBossand most of the 500K are foreigners including Chinese, Indians and others. 😂😂😂. How to compete? 😂😂😂

    • @Caged63Man
      @Caged63Man 7 днів тому

      😆😅😂😅🤣 your funny!

    • @QuantumEcofarm
      @QuantumEcofarm 7 днів тому

      Aren’t just Tech & Innovation should make our life easier and cheaper?instead off falling into like big company profit making machine sucking out our blood?

  • @mandeepnanda
    @mandeepnanda 8 днів тому +21

    Thing coming FROM USA always be trusted. MOral of the story. Even now other countries have stopped trusting USA.

  • @TingMo-n4i
    @TingMo-n4i 8 днів тому +19

    The US is taking another L from China 😂😂😂

  • @gautamanyerere3294
    @gautamanyerere3294 4 дні тому +1

    Why's the US default position is always to ban competition when they think they can lose??

  • @josetreto7937
    @josetreto7937 6 днів тому +1

    Mega sure likes you guys! 😄😄

  • @MV12267
    @MV12267 8 днів тому +34

    I have already moved all my projects to deepseek. Everyone has all your data it doesn't matter anymore.

    • @mrtee1211
      @mrtee1211 8 днів тому +6

      I trust the Chinese more than I trust elon musk with my data

    • @FIRSTASIAN
      @FIRSTASIAN 7 днів тому

      What can China do to a u s resident?

    • @MV12267
      @MV12267 7 днів тому +1

      @@FIRSTASIAN the government definitely cares way more than the average citizen. Is China going to start sending me propaganda mail? That would be hilarious.

    • @FIRSTASIAN
      @FIRSTASIAN 7 днів тому

      @ exactly

  • @TNNest2023
    @TNNest2023 8 днів тому +17

    One of the most controversial quotes I’ve ever heard is “if you don’t cheat you don’t care enough about winning.”

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 8 днів тому +3

      The western mentality where they say winning is not everything, it is the only thing.

    • @slc801
      @slc801 8 днів тому +1

      Ask Tanya Harding “ American ice skater “😜

  • @prasadareddy5617
    @prasadareddy5617 8 днів тому +8

    This isn't about questioning capability-America can certainly develop its own AI independently. The point is that cost-effective alternatives have been demonstrated, proving such innovation doesn’t require $500 billion in funding. Much of that budget would likely end up padding executive compensation rather than driving progress. With this transparency, corporate leaders can no longer justify inflated spending claims to everyday investors

  • @PlayShorts3
    @PlayShorts3 6 днів тому +1

    It must be painful for Patrick and Adam to read all the comments supporting Chinese AI over the USA’s 😂😂

  • @BuddhaHeadAI
    @BuddhaHeadAI 5 днів тому +2

    In summary, whether the situation in Gaza legally constitutes genocide is still under intense debate and investigation by international bodies such as the International Criminal Court and the International Court of Justice. What is clear is that the conflict has resulted in enormous suffering and widespread destruction, and there is a significant push among many human rights advocates to hold all responsible parties accountable for violations of international humanitarian law. chatgpt answer

  • @Dan-eu6fl
    @Dan-eu6fl 8 днів тому +20

    Open source is already what it say Open source. everyone has access to it.

  • @donaldreynolds3561
    @donaldreynolds3561 8 днів тому +16

    That's rich! None on our US companies should be trusted either! LMFAO!

    • @arunanarina1316
      @arunanarina1316 7 днів тому

      It's too late Buddy
      Zuckerberg bought an Island in Hawaii, from your Money 😃👍

    • @SmikeyDeeson
      @SmikeyDeeson 7 днів тому +1

      Doesn't this remind you of the Covid?

  • @TNNest2023
    @TNNest2023 8 днів тому +15

    This Indian guy must have never heard cloud computing. You can automatically scale almost anything if you got money 💴

  • @gregwang8628
    @gregwang8628 7 днів тому +5

    Trusted or not is not up to you politicians, it’s up to the people, don’t play the scare game, people are not stupid as you think, on the other hand, you are trusted or not is the question you should worry about.

  • @keemy258
    @keemy258 7 днів тому +3

    Deep seek is free for whole world to enjoy using. They don't charge $200 /month for usage it's totally FREE. 👍

  • @stinger2214
    @stinger2214 8 днів тому +20

    Doesn't matter if it can be trusted or not.
    How is it possible for quants from a hedge fund to build an equivalent ai chat bot as a side project for a fraction of the price
    Then give it away to the world for free and explained to everyone how to build it themselves

  • @9997gg
    @9997gg 8 днів тому +16

    “It won’t let you ask about Tiananmen Square!” Okay and ChatGPT has multiple things it won’t talk about, so clearly censorship doesn’t matter that much

    • @eleghari
      @eleghari 8 днів тому +3

      That "Tiananmen Square" example was the only thing The Guardian can find wrong with DeepSeek too 🤭
      Pathetic!

    • @jetli740
      @jetli740 8 днів тому

      thay make ai as a tool not for politic..

    • @TheCbins
      @TheCbins 8 днів тому

      Ask it about Guantanamo? Or which government overthrows democratically elected leaders?

    • @arigatoSev7en
      @arigatoSev7en 7 днів тому

      The point is even if it can't talk about tiananmen square, then what happens ? Really then what happens??

    • @jetli740
      @jetli740 7 днів тому +1

      @ why you want involve AI with politic? only Pathetic people do that

  • @Red_Flags_Reactions
    @Red_Flags_Reactions 8 днів тому +12

    Nvidia bubble was bound to bust at some point😂😂😂😂😂

  • @bGzzzzz
    @bGzzzzz 6 днів тому +1

    Well it’s clear they did it cheaper considering the ridiculous wages Google/Meta/OpenAI pay themselves 🤷‍♂️
    Question should be - where did OpenAI actually put that money 🤔

  • @alrickyt9075
    @alrickyt9075 6 днів тому +1

    What does Ro and Patrick knows about AI?

  • @KemalKaratatar
    @KemalKaratatar 8 днів тому +18

    Chatgpt can share only public information till 2021 and can not tell how many people are working for openai 😂😂😂😂

  • @user-pl9wu1xy3m
    @user-pl9wu1xy3m 8 днів тому +19

    The way we all saw this coming already lmao 😂

  • @Peace-ok7xo
    @Peace-ok7xo 8 днів тому +13

    So everything has turned into politics, Including science and innovation. Smh

  • @luting3
    @luting3 7 днів тому +1

    Agree. People should stop using non open AI, which could be inspected by public. With so many AI experts scrutinizing now. It makes the safest AI in human history.

  • @shencheanglow3726
    @shencheanglow3726 7 днів тому +4

    So Deepseek avoid discussing controversial issues like Xinjiang genocide, , Hingkong riots, Tiananmen incident or massacre as foreigners like to call it made it ubreliable for use. While meta or google censored discussions on Palestinian genocide, jewish cartel in US politics and such controversial topics is OK for use?

  • @naamaramirez46
    @naamaramirez46 8 днів тому +21

    I used to like this channel.

    • @j.c.4192
      @j.c.4192 8 днів тому

      it's just doing pump and dumps now and shill.

    • @Facts-Over-Feelings
      @Facts-Over-Feelings 8 днів тому

      CANT STAND PBD THE MLS CONMAN. I POST JUST TO EXPOSE HIS RACIST BS

  • @TheContrarianThinker-S0
    @TheContrarianThinker-S0 8 днів тому +10

    And, people like Altman can 🤣🤣🤣
    He's been using his tech to scan people's retinas, for biometric data collation, for 2 years!

  • @richardz247
    @richardz247 8 днів тому +16

    Huawei is already preparing something better than Nvdia top chip..wait for it soon

  • @thommccarthy1139
    @thommccarthy1139 6 днів тому +1

    Honestly surprised a politician knows what the hell compute power is

  • @livefree1030
    @livefree1030 6 днів тому +2

    And ChatGPT can?
    DeepSeek can be taken offline permanently and built on. Meaning the CCP loses access.
    OpenAI doesn't offer Open Source Code

  • @FredAureus
    @FredAureus 8 днів тому +12

    Someone is worried about his nVidia shares...

    • @hughmungus2760
      @hughmungus2760 7 днів тому

      oh boy he's going to be in for the shock of his life when in a few years china finally breaks through the EUV blockade.

  • @jahkarimirza7286
    @jahkarimirza7286 8 днів тому +12

    Competition is good.

  • @Temporary.life4321
    @Temporary.life4321 8 днів тому +13

    As if cia and fbi can be trusted 😂 more propaganda pls😂

  • @luxuryblues
    @luxuryblues 7 днів тому +4

    Obviously this guy is as clueless as a doorknob. It's open source dumbbell. You can run it on your laptop, in your server, close off any external traffic - do whatever you want with it. But of course - lets continue with your narrative 😀

  • @CW-yg7qm
    @CW-yg7qm 7 днів тому +2

    Why compete to win? Why not cooperate and work together for the betterment of mankind?

  • @douglaswong8610
    @douglaswong8610 8 днів тому +6

    You just forgot, remember the saying that China copying
    Well, perhaps
    Now they are not copying, they are just multiplying infinitely
    You went from 0 to 1
    Chinese took off from 2 to infinity

  • @jukesters123
    @jukesters123 8 днів тому +11

    LMAO,p-off .Deepseek must be banned now???

    • @Mor4me
      @Mor4me 8 днів тому +1

      Exactly ‼️
      and where does it end?

    • @rap3208
      @rap3208 8 днів тому +1

      They can't, it is open source.

    • @eleghari
      @eleghari 8 днів тому +1

      Or increase what it charges by a factor of hundred and give them 75% 🤭

  • @EbbaPaps
    @EbbaPaps 6 днів тому +1

    It's open source. Still better than Open AI who began open and chose to close >:(

  • @callas60
    @callas60 6 днів тому +1

    The hosts' arrogance, ignorance and conceit reveal their inner concerns and fears about China.

  • @joelbautista46
    @joelbautista46 8 днів тому +26

    Can chat gpt be trusted?...

  • @aeva69
    @aeva69 8 днів тому +9

    Make OpenAI code open so can be audited

  • @adamurbanik7545
    @adamurbanik7545 8 днів тому +14

    In case you don’t know, the best is yet to come🎉

    • @FIRSTASIAN
      @FIRSTASIAN 7 днів тому

      They have discovered teleportation.