total war peaked in 2002. it has been 1 step forward and 2 steps back ever since. simple as. if youve never played medieval 1 and thinking about it, i made a video for my 2nd channel to show how to get it running well in 2023: ua-cam.com/video/9uR8WmkG1-I/v-deo.html
@@真志雄 That's the absolute minimum we need... Perfomance problems, improved interface, controls, camera, improved resolutions, sprites and textures as bug fixes and expanded modding capabilities are what we do need at the very least...but I'd rather prefer a full remaster HD version of the game as they already done with Rome 1. I think there are decent chances for that to happen especially if Med2 remaster is going to sell well. Finger crossed :)
@@Djnomad912 Shogun 1 and Medieval 1 are the peak of the series. Rome 1 and Medieval 2 are very good indeed, along with Shogun 2, Three Kingdoms and maybe Rome 2 (only with mods for the latter). Attila, Empire, Napoleon and the Warhammer trilogy are alright games but they don't stand out particularly in comparison to the latter. The rest that is not in my list suck ass
I spent so many hours as a kid playing Medieval 1 on my dad's PC, honestly an incredible game. A shame I lost my disc (and a further shame my PC doesn't have a disc drive anyway) else these videos would have encouraged me to start playing it again. The atmosphere in the battles is just so beyond anything even Rome 1 and Medieval 2 could create for me, the music and the tactics sync up perfectly
oh man, the problem is all the features that we lost over the years are easy to implement, I actually got relieved that they are not releasing medieval game even though I have given up on CA. just imagine troy battle system with medieval reskin, i am just waiting for manner lord to get my kick to be honest.
The old games are fun but the archers are overpowered. As soon as you start getting kills filling up your side of the morale meter it makes the units break faster. They went too far in nerfing archers in the later games though.
Man, things like formation deph and terrain having such big impact on the performance of a unit is such a nice thing to see. I also really like that missle units are not completely ineffectual in melee engagements and actually can break lower quality or diminished units in the right conditions, that is something i enjoyed in the other older TW games aswell. Maybe i should give Medieval 1 a go.
At 2:24 you ordered the longbows to fire which ignores friendly units and caused two peasants to die rather than leaving the longbows picking their own targets and be more safe with the shots. Could've been way worse with crossbows/arbalesters because of their flat trajectory so yea it's usually best to let them fire at will.
What modern game enjoyers fail to realise: Big pixels and a lot of pretty colours =/= good gameplay and strategy Nothing wrong if you like to play a modern tw game, but stop saying that your McDonalds burger version of the game is better than my Gordon Ramsey handmade burger just because your cheese was spray painted to look more yellow.
another example is sudden strike. sudden strike is an isometric RTT game and the tactics and gameplay are way better than company of heroes 3. thats a 20 year old game beating a brand new one. modern games are dogshit compared to the good ones from 20 years ago, which are basically freeware by now.
@@Volound and ofc the normies wlll shitfling the nostalgia fallacy at you over and over again despite the fact i just started M1 with only around 100mins played and im already impressed with it being actually good. The AI even tries to not let me abuse cavalry cycle charges unlike every 3d game where they just stand there until i kill entire armies with 1-2 cav units
@@SuperCrumpets exactly man, well said. i first played med1 in 2020 after having started with the shogun 1 demo before total war even shipped a title. i can play med1 20 years late and have 0 nostalgia and correctly observe it is better than every total war game in the past decade.
@@VoloundIt hurts that in the last decade Total War has only declined. Having worked at a hardware company (it starts with an N and is most famous for making GPUs) it hurts my brain knowing what work has gone into improving computer hardware. The advancement in hardware available for the average consumer have been massive. Transistor have gotten so small that we're reaching the limit of what is possible in the laws of physics and the accuracy of lasers, clockspeeds of GPUs and CPUs have multiple massively. VRAM for high end GPUs in 2000s was measured in MB, now we're looking at GPUs with 24 GB or maybe even 48GB in the future. Yet unit size has only gone from 100 max to 200 max. And despite modern computers having become far more powerful than before there are somehow less factors simulated? Never played Medieval 1 and this video is painful and shows an unfortunate truth. This just reinforces the belief that CA doesn't care about making games anymore
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I might just have to buy medieval 1 now, I've played shogun 1 and I would say there really isn't any issues with them other than their age, moving troops is a bit of a pain and the graphics aren't the best but its still fine as is, and the fact that the entire map is factions does make it seem like a upgrade from medieval 2 ngl.
Damage increases on hills but yeah its weird that theres no range increase. I guess technically it makes a little since, since like the absolute distance is still larger, its just diagonal instead, but thats judt math thing not mechanic
Since being on a hill increases range back then what would you think is a reasonable counter to that? What can force an army to leave a hill other than maybe arty?
@@RomannTW a hill is as good as it gets. if youre on that hill you took the fight hoping to use it to survive the attack. if you took the fight you hoped you would get a hill. you have it now.
With a hill, sometimes you got no choice but to close distance fast with the army, make it so they can't fire into your men due to them entangled in fighting with his men. To deal with a hill you either need to overwhelm their range with your own Range, use artillery to bombard them, or a huge assault up the hill to close the distance quickly and make his range less useful. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and deal with not great options. You could distract him with some action in the front, while other troops sneak up on him from behind, but this working depends on the total war title in question.
I've been watching a lot of Chess games and Go lately. Accidentally stumbled upon AI games with AlphaZero beating Stockfish and the 1 in a million game where Lee Sedol defeated AlphaGo (the first and last human to ever beat a real AI in a board game). I've seen Deepmind be hyped to be used in starcraft 2 but that's a lot less interesting than Chess or Go. Another lost opportunity is developing an AI that could play Total War, why? Because it's a lot more nuanced than Starcraft 2. In Starcraft 2, there is no positioning, there is only pure micro/macro. Unlike chess, which is a game about supreme positioning, and who can pin each other's pieces before they start trading pieces. Go, another game about supreme positioning and coexisting in a limited space. In my mind, Total war was the next logical step. This is the battlefield that these board games were trying to recreate and simulate. AlphaGo and AlphaZero just showed us how far we are in the skill ceiling and our place in these ancient board games. Just how far are we in the skill ceiling on the battlefield of Agincourt, and many other battles presented to us in total war? Total War, originally, was a game about positioning and trading units or positions for superior ones. The games were about so much more than pure micro and more about good decision making and it makes me wonder what it could have been but we'll never know the answer.
Nah the peak was Medieval 2 and shogun 2 was much Better than empire, Napoleon was very well done too. Rome 1 wasn't the start of the downfall, Rome 2 was
@@Voloundnever played It, maybe you're right, it's just that the successive games often bringed more things to the table and were ambitious (like Med 2 had cutscenes and more immersive events) and still had almost all things of Med 1
i played medieval 2 on launch and i still remember it was totally bland and boring. i immediately went back to barbarian invasion for rome total war. to this day, ive basically only ever played the third age mod for medieval 2. good reason almost nobody plays it without mods. medieval 1 > barbarian invasion expansion of rtw > fall of the samurai > shogun 2 > kingdoms expansion of med2
@@Volound You are just not properly familiar with Medieval 2. Vanilla was obviously rushed and unfinished so you should actually refer Stainless steel 6.4 with Germanicus AI and BGR 2 (or BGR 4 for additional flavor but I would not recommend that) as Medieval 2, not the vanilla version.
total war peaked in 2002. it has been 1 step forward and 2 steps back ever since. simple as.
if youve never played medieval 1 and thinking about it, i made a video for my 2nd channel to show how to get it running well in 2023: ua-cam.com/video/9uR8WmkG1-I/v-deo.html
Medieval 1 is the peak of the series, no context!
i wish they make a performance update like shogun 2 and let modders make bigger maps and 500 men per unit with 60 units per arrmy
@@真志雄 That's the absolute minimum we need... Perfomance problems, improved interface, controls, camera, improved resolutions, sprites and textures as bug fixes and expanded modding capabilities are what we do need at the very least...but I'd rather prefer a full remaster HD version of the game as they already done with Rome 1. I think there are decent chances for that to happen especially if Med2 remaster is going to sell well. Finger crossed :)
What about Rome 1 and Medieval 2
@@Djnomad912 Shogun 1 and Medieval 1 are the peak of the series. Rome 1 and Medieval 2 are very good indeed, along with Shogun 2, Three Kingdoms and maybe Rome 2 (only with mods for the latter). Attila, Empire, Napoleon and the Warhammer trilogy are alright games but they don't stand out particularly in comparison to the latter. The rest that is not in my list suck ass
These medieval 1 videos have been making me want to give it another try
worth it if youve never played it seriously. no reason to play total war games past 2012 when this game exists. none whatsoever.
I spent so many hours as a kid playing Medieval 1 on my dad's PC, honestly an incredible game. A shame I lost my disc (and a further shame my PC doesn't have a disc drive anyway) else these videos would have encouraged me to start playing it again.
The atmosphere in the battles is just so beyond anything even Rome 1 and Medieval 2 could create for me, the music and the tactics sync up perfectly
Check the internet archive. You'll need the cracked exe that CA provided themselves.
oh man, the problem is all the features that we lost over the years are easy to implement, I actually got relieved that they are not releasing medieval game even though I have given up on CA.
just imagine troy battle system with medieval reskin, i am just waiting for manner lord to get my kick to be honest.
Why the hell would they remove a range bonus from hills, christ
The old games are fun but the archers are overpowered. As soon as you start getting kills filling up your side of the morale meter it makes the units break faster. They went too far in nerfing archers in the later games though.
@@charlescook5542 Archers are the only viable strategy in the new games though. They are far too accurate
Man, things like formation deph and terrain having such big impact on the performance of a unit is such a nice thing to see. I also really like that missle units are not completely ineffectual in melee engagements and actually can break lower quality or diminished units in the right conditions, that is something i enjoyed in the other older TW games aswell. Maybe i should give Medieval 1 a go.
My first TW when I was 9. When I first got the game my friends and I been playing quick battles at my house as a team. Good times!
Thank you Volound for everything you do for Total War. I love these Medieval vids.🙃
It's hard for me to get invested in the historical battles b/c they don't feel like ''my'' army but these are a lot of fun to watch.
thank god your doing these videos, i tend to reference your playstyle as a guide and its good seeing you play again
The units themselves kinda hurt the eyes but the map itself is really beautiful. Looks like an actual location which isn't something im used to in TW
At 2:24 you ordered the longbows to fire which ignores friendly units and caused two peasants to die rather than leaving the longbows picking their own targets and be more safe with the shots. Could've been way worse with crossbows/arbalesters because of their flat trajectory so yea it's usually best to let them fire at will.
What modern game enjoyers fail to realise:
Big pixels and a lot of pretty colours =/= good gameplay and strategy
Nothing wrong if you like to play a modern tw game, but stop saying that your McDonalds burger version of the game is better than my Gordon Ramsey handmade burger just because your cheese was spray painted to look more yellow.
another example is sudden strike. sudden strike is an isometric RTT game and the tactics and gameplay are way better than company of heroes 3. thats a 20 year old game beating a brand new one. modern games are dogshit compared to the good ones from 20 years ago, which are basically freeware by now.
@@Volound and ofc the normies wlll shitfling the nostalgia fallacy at you over and over again despite the fact i just started M1 with only around 100mins played and im already impressed with it being actually good.
The AI even tries to not let me abuse cavalry cycle charges unlike every 3d game where they just stand there until i kill entire armies with 1-2 cav units
@@SuperCrumpets exactly man, well said. i first played med1 in 2020 after having started with the shogun 1 demo before total war even shipped a title. i can play med1 20 years late and have 0 nostalgia and correctly observe it is better than every total war game in the past decade.
@@VoloundIt hurts that in the last decade Total War has only declined. Having worked at a hardware company (it starts with an N and is most famous for making GPUs) it hurts my brain knowing what work has gone into improving computer hardware. The advancement in hardware available for the average consumer have been massive. Transistor have gotten so small that we're reaching the limit of what is possible in the laws of physics and the accuracy of lasers, clockspeeds of GPUs and CPUs have multiple massively. VRAM for high end GPUs in 2000s was measured in MB, now we're looking at GPUs with 24 GB or maybe even 48GB in the future. Yet unit size has only gone from 100 max to 200 max. And despite modern computers having become far more powerful than before there are somehow less factors simulated? Never played Medieval 1 and this video is painful and shows an unfortunate truth. This just reinforces the belief that CA doesn't care about making games anymore
These historical battles are so fun to watch, can’t wait to see more!
holy shit never played med1,what is the first song from the ost ? awesome
List of the tracks from the video -
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ua-cam.com/video/KgWpr_pD3C4/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/lIroDcCmlrM/v-deo.html
congrats on 100k subs
I might just have to buy medieval 1 now, I've played shogun 1 and I would say there really isn't any issues with them other than their age, moving troops is a bit of a pain and the graphics aren't the best but its still fine as is, and the fact that the entire map is factions does make it seem like a upgrade from medieval 2 ngl.
Now that the dust has settled... what was the trick for getting Sword of Amaterasu in Shogun 2?
What are the odds of a new shogun 2 campaign on this channel in the future? Playing the ikko ikki or uesugi mabye?
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Great battle. I miss this game so much. Plus Viking Invasion obviously. ❤
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Epic battle
Damage increases on hills but yeah its weird that theres no range increase. I guess technically it makes a little since, since like the absolute distance is still larger, its just diagonal instead, but thats judt math thing not mechanic
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Nice
Loved this game but not the battles though, never liked that in Med 1. Akward camera angle, Med 2 is when they perfected the game.
Only the controls and the camera are what stop med 1 from being the best total war game
До сих пор люблю тактику в Medieval 1. Эта игра была шедевром… Простите, но мне лень писать на английском после трудного дня и пары стаканов виски 🤝🤝.
Since being on a hill increases range back then what would you think is a reasonable counter to that? What can force an army to leave a hill other than maybe arty?
why would an army leave a hill? lol. the whole point of the hill is that the defender uses it.
just a weird question.
@@RomannTW a hill is as good as it gets. if youre on that hill you took the fight hoping to use it to survive the attack. if you took the fight you hoped you would get a hill. you have it now.
not to mention the fact that leaving the hill makes enemy ranged units more effective.
you played this game?
@@RomannTW of course he wasnt. done be silly.
With a hill, sometimes you got no choice but to close distance fast with the army, make it so they can't fire into your men due to them entangled in fighting with his men. To deal with a hill you either need to overwhelm their range with your own Range, use artillery to bombard them, or a huge assault up the hill to close the distance quickly and make his range less useful. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and deal with not great options.
You could distract him with some action in the front, while other troops sneak up on him from behind, but this working depends on the total war title in question.
Little did we know we were the original warhammer fanboys
My first tw game was actually this but i sent it back for rome total war in cash converters cos i didnt like the graphics aha butni might try again
I've been watching a lot of Chess games and Go lately. Accidentally stumbled upon AI games with AlphaZero beating Stockfish and the 1 in a million game where Lee Sedol defeated AlphaGo (the first and last human to ever beat a real AI in a board game). I've seen Deepmind be hyped to be used in starcraft 2 but that's a lot less interesting than Chess or Go. Another lost opportunity is developing an AI that could play Total War, why? Because it's a lot more nuanced than Starcraft 2. In Starcraft 2, there is no positioning, there is only pure micro/macro. Unlike chess, which is a game about supreme positioning, and who can pin each other's pieces before they start trading pieces. Go, another game about supreme positioning and coexisting in a limited space.
In my mind, Total war was the next logical step. This is the battlefield that these board games were trying to recreate and simulate. AlphaGo and AlphaZero just showed us how far we are in the skill ceiling and our place in these ancient board games. Just how far are we in the skill ceiling on the battlefield of Agincourt, and many other battles presented to us in total war? Total War, originally, was a game about positioning and trading units or positions for superior ones. The games were about so much more than pure micro and more about good decision making and it makes me wonder what it could have been but we'll never know the answer.
Nah the peak was Medieval 2 and shogun 2 was much Better than empire, Napoleon was very well done too. Rome 1 wasn't the start of the downfall, Rome 2 was
medieval 1 is better than medieval 2.
@@Voloundnever played It, maybe you're right, it's just that the successive games often bringed more things to the table and were ambitious (like Med 2 had cutscenes and more immersive events) and still had almost all things of Med 1
i played medieval 2 on launch and i still remember it was totally bland and boring. i immediately went back to barbarian invasion for rome total war. to this day, ive basically only ever played the third age mod for medieval 2. good reason almost nobody plays it without mods.
medieval 1 > barbarian invasion expansion of rtw > fall of the samurai > shogun 2 > kingdoms expansion of med2
@@Volound You are just not properly familiar with Medieval 2. Vanilla was obviously rushed and unfinished so you should actually refer Stainless steel 6.4 with Germanicus AI and BGR 2 (or BGR 4 for additional flavor but I would not recommend that) as Medieval 2, not the vanilla version.
@@Mars78887 "you are not familiar with this game, so check out this mod that has nothing to do with what you were talking about" lmao garbage autism.