Vecna was a wizard that hungered for power and took it whenever possible. He became a lich by killing himself and storing his soul in a phylactery, making him undead and immortal. He became so powerful he was known as an Arch-lich. Then he became a divinity, god of secrets and lichdom. Now in the new book that D&D is releasing that this DLC is tied to, he strives to gain the ultimate power and rewrite the endless multiverse in his image. Truly a monster of infinite ambition. The way DBD tied him in was creative, he himself went to the entity's realm to research it, claimed a part of it to create his dungeon, and is just there learning. The entity put a seal on the back of his neck to inhibit his power and limit him to the 4 spells he can cast, because otherwise he could summon meteors, stop time, or just utter one word that kills a person.
I love the idea that Vecna is just like "You know what? I'm bored, I'll play this spider's game and restrict myself to 4 of my weakest spells and melee."
@@mrboogosama5664 Vecna is a literal god. If humans can escape, he can as well. Besides, Vecna is better to have as a friend for the entity. Vecna would be able to get the Entity so many more souls to consume than the entity could ever want. Also Vecna is not stupid, I’m sure he’s made contingency plans for if the entity doesn’t let him go. One doesn’t become a lich and a god without having contingency after contingency. There’s no guarantee that Vecna’s soul is even there. He could just be remotely puppeteering it using magic. We need to also remember that Vecna’s hand is also canonically in use on the material plane and The Entity doesn’t have Arkhan. That means Vecna can’t be fully in the Entity. The items in game are purely created by the entity.
@@Skrillmast3r considering that the entity's realm is outside of the range of the weave(the source of magic in almost all dnd material) he is unable to use actual magic
Just as a minor note cause I'm a D&D nerd - that magic dagger, Afterthought, is actually a +5 dagger when wielded by Vecna himself. It just magically makes itself weaker if anyone else tries to use, hence why it specifically says "in the hands of anyone other than Vecna, it is a +2 dagger." Little nerdy fun fact.
Quick n simple Vecna D&D Lore: He is THE lich, was the first to discover the process. He got betrayed by his close allies a couple times and said "Aight fuck y'all I'm ascending to godhood." The statblock of him is pre-ascension, to give an idea of how strong this mf is.
@@IIThaGawdII "Often such a creature is the result of a willful transformation, as a powerful wizard skilled in necromancy who seeks eternal life uses rare substances in a magical ritual to become undead. Unlike zombies, which are often depicted as mindless, liches are sapient revenants, retaining their previous intelligence and magical abilities. Liches are often depicted as holding power over lesser mindless undead soldiers and servants." (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lich) The lore in Dungeons & Dragons says that he was the first of the first to figure out how to do it. After his buddies back-stabbed him he got tired of the grind & turned to the dark-side basically. In actual D&D, he is OP (a la Voldemort) so the little red circle with entity claws hovering on his neck is an "Entity's Seal" that makes him as strong as he normally was before he became so Super Saiyan he transformed into an immortal being.
@@IIThaGawdII Essentially, Vecna discovered how to put his soul in another object and achieve immortality so long as that object remains intact and occasionally fed souls. He was betrayed by allies, likely resulting in his hand and eye being lost, got pissed, and essentially found a process to make his immortality even stronger by essentially becoming the demigod of secrets and lichdom. If you look up his stats to be used as an encounter in dungeons and dragons, it's his stats just as a lich, not as a demigod. He's incredibly powerful based on those stats, and he's only become more powerful.
I need you to understand that in DnD, mage hand is a cantrip, a little pissbaby spell that even starter mages can cast as much as they want. It can only lift 5 pounds. Vecna is literally a god. It's freaking hilarious to me that it's one of the strongest things he has in dbd.
To me, it's called mage hand. But it's the size of how I feel bigsby's hand is. Just a giant hand yanking up the pallet and destroying it, but he's so powerful even his most basic cantrip is that big and powerful in his kit
My favorite build for vecna is one I've been calling just Franklin's Attunement. Franklin's demise, weave attunement, hex: plaything, pentimento. It shouldn't work nearly as well as it does. Closest I've gotten to losing is 2 gens left. Oh and the add ons are the ring of spell storage or whatever for cooldowns, and ive forgotten the other one. Just bring whatever compliments your playstyle.
Vorpal Sword makes some pallet loops instant death for survivors. It turns dropped pallets into solid walls that survivors will think they can vault. If they trap themselves in an enclosed pallet loop where normally the only option is to break it, simply cast and watch the survivor on the other side find out what it's like to be caught between an immovable object and an unstoppable force. My favorite way to troll because these are normally very safe loops...until they're not. Also gets bonus points for being able to stop "We'll make it" unhook heals with the orb. Just says nope to healing survivors. Pair that with A nurse's calling and you got the no heals build down pat.
Beyond impressed with the creativity on this build, mixing the killers power nicely along side the perks and add ons. AND you did research on Vecna trying to figure out how to make him really come alive in the game. Good work Spooky 👏
The stats you saw were for him when he was "Just the most powerful lich in the multiverse" before he ascended to a god. To see how much stronger he is than most, just look up a Goblin or Orc stats. And the spot where it says his CR " Challenge Rating " That means roughly that if a party is level 2, a monster that is CR 2 should be moderate difficult, and anything higher than that, will be challenging. The maximum level what players can be, is 20. A Goblin has a CR of 1/4th, so pretty damn low. A Dragon is CR 17.. Vecna is 26
@@dillity Okay you have good point, CR doesnt necessarily tell how deadly the enemy is, like Vecna vs Tarrasque is not even a match, as Vecna just casts, for example, True Polymorph and turns the tarrasque into a kitten. But still the Tarrasque is basically godzilla minus the breath weapon, meaning its a mountain sized lizard with anger issues
@@_Lunaria Doesnt the tarrasque have skin that resists magic and can even reflect it? Edit: I Found it "Reflective Carapace. Any time the tarrasque is targeted by a magic missile spell, a line spell, or a spell that requires a ranged attack roll, roll a d6. On a 1 to 5, the tarrasque is unaffected. On a 6, the tarrasque is unaffected, and the effect is reflected back at the caster as though it originated from the tarrasque, turning the caster into the target. " So as it stands true poly would still affect it.
@@IAmCasualty the problem with that is a Tarrasque has +9 to it's wisdom save and magic resistance, this isn't even mentioning it's three uses of legendary resistance. Hell if I am understanding the stat block correctly the Tarrasque would absolutely shit on Vecna
A +2 dagger means a +2 modifiar ro attack rolls and damage rolls, on top of other bonuses. Vecna has a +13 to hit, and deals 1d4+5 (average 7.5), 2d8(average 9) in one hit (average 17), and he haa multiattack, meaning he can attack agaun, xoing an average of 32 damage with his dagger alone. For most ofher people, his dagger would deal 1d4+2 damage (average 5.5)
At 19:18, I had to deal with that pallet yesterday. I vaulted it and the killer went between it and the tree and knocked me down. Then he walked over to the pallet and hit it a couple times because he didn't understand, either.
My favorite Vecna build so far is: franklins, hoarder, weave attunement, overwhelming presence and bag of holding + robe of eyes for add-ons. Someone called it the minefield of aura reading build. Its so fun and theres really not much if any counterplay
I was playing DBD yesterday and me and my cousin were playing online survivor and we were on the new DND map and if you have played the map you know about the Portals and me and my cousin tried to go through the Portal at the same time on accident and it kicked me out of the animation and the sent me cousin though the wall for the rest of the game and the best part was he ended up being the last survivor and the death slinger just sat there staring at a wall for like 3 minutes until the entity killed my cousin
Spooky my guy you should start a tips N Tricks series. They way your able to in detail describe the situations and your awareness of the setting is just phenomenal. much love man keep it up! 🔥💯
I don’t play DND much personally. But ima need for Lore and stories and DND is so rich with just potential in fantasy. As a writer I’ve written, created and expanded concepts, for characters and even full campaigns. That’s a whole story. But Vecna is such a big icon in the whole universe. Man I’d love to make a brutal campaign for people using him.
Im glad to see you can still enjoy playing the game and not be angry with it since you left the Fog Whisperer program. I think its not even worth it to be in the program and it would be funner to just enjoy the game and say what you want without worrying about making the company angry. Cheers!
I like to think that the entity is the one blinding and stunning killers, not the actual flashlights and pallets, the entity feeds of fear and other emotions so survivors stunning and blidning even someone as powerful as vecna or pinhead gives them an emboldened feeling. And keeping them alive longer gives more time to be scared.
DnD vecna is legit either your big bad that the party takes on at the end of fhe campaign, the guy you never fight, or your Dm is trying to kill you. Also I love that his spellbook is stored in his ribs...you could say he keeps his spells close to his chest
Pretty much. I've used him one time outside of those contexts, and it was using the party's mission to further his own insidious goals. One of the players was stupid enough to bargain with him. It was never my intent for it turn into Number 3, but damn it, it did.
@JRook-00 Haha, well I can't say much one of our paladins made a deal with Baphomet and my cleric trusted him more than Mystra soooo... (no legit if I had a nickel for everything I said 'fuck mystra' I woukd have two nickels, that's not a lot but it's weird it happened twice, the first was because my cleric told Mystra she wasnt going to tell her where an item was and mystra made it to where she couldnt talk at all....and the second time was Gale in Baldurs Gate 3)
Man spooky, last summer I watched like all ur vids all ur streams twice and once I stopped I literally didn’t know who to watch that’s how entertaining u are bro so keep doing what you’re doing love ur vids man
can i just say just started the video ran an almost identical build, but vecna can cook even with out perks or add ons, its wild how diverse the spells are.
23:55 imagine they made a new version of pallets. Tilted/leaning (normal pallets) then ones that just fall flat, and the killer could walk over it (if not stunned). Say god pallets for instance.
Honestly, I don't feel it needs a nerf. It is effective, but it doesn't prevent the pallet that was lifted from being immediately thrown down again, so it rewards the Killer for taking advantage of the Survivor urge to run after predropping due to imagining the Killer will have to lose distance to breaking or going around a dropped pallet. A Survivor who is ready for Mage Hand can stick around for a second and drop the pallet right on Vecna's head for a stun, with Mage Hand also on cooldown, at which point a Vecna might counter-counter play by seeing the Survivor not running, back up to avoid the stun, and swap to Flight of the Damned to get an injury while the Survivor is locked in the pallet dropping animation. Things shouldn't be nerfed just because the majority of Survivors haven't learned (or refuse to learn) counterplay to a Killer's Powers.
Not to mention the fact that treasure chests are extremely common and quick to open, so if you see a Vecna getting lots of Mage Hand value, you can search Treasure Chests until you find the boots or gloves (since you only need one to get the effect) that give you 5% Haste when Vecna uses Mage Hand, allowing you to not give up as much distance without forcing the Vecna to also attempt to use Dispel Magic on you as well (putting another spell on cooldown for a single hit/down, lowering his efficiency). Make your other magic item one of the ones that allows you to see the Dispel Magic sphere and potentially allow you to dodge the very slow spell, and you can completely screw a Vecna using the Ring of Telekinesis if he overcommits to you.
That ring addon is his worst addon lol. It literally hurts him. If the survivor predictions he going to raise the pallet all they have to do is step in to the pallet bodyblocking it and drop it again before vecna has the ability to swing. I done that sooooooo many Vecnas already and the ring just makes it safer to do for survivors because they can drop it sooner.
A couple Flight of the Damned tips for you aspiring Archliches out there: - Use upward slopes to position yourself slightly below the survivors before firing if possible- it removes their ability to crouch to avoid the ghouls. Likewise, avoid trying to hit people downhill, they might not have to do anything. This is obviously quite map dependent, but try to chase people up stairs. - The ghouls' active hit frames come out very fast. At close range, over pallets and relatively thin walls, you can position the ghouls to immediately spawn in and hit a survivor, provided they don't pre-crouch. Given how fast it is, it catches a lot of people by surprise and gets some very easy health states! The issue is getting used to the slight distance in front of you where the ghouls initially spawn, which isn't very clearly labeled in the UI. Spooky demonstrated using it for zoning and slowing survivors by making them crouch, which is also useful. Also: breaking LoS with the survivor might help, but it makes a very distinct sound, so barring the direct hit strategy, survivors will probably crouch on reaction to the sound of the spell and still dodge.
Weave Attunment and Franklin’s Demise work well together. I also throw in Overwhelming Presence and Hoarder too. Absolutely slays on small, two story maps. Works well with Vecna but i think Pyramid Head and The Artist would do great too.
the reason why vecna can be inconvenienced by wooden palettes and flashlights despite demonstrating the ability to stop the entity from taking him with his spells is, once again, the entity nerfing him to oblivion he also has a seal behind his neck - according to the dbd wiki, this seal (mark of negation) not only limits vecna's powers, it also prevents him from leaving the realm, meaning that he's stuck in here and any knowledge he gains will be kept within the realm and even if he does somehow remove the seal and tries to leave, the entity will take notice and do something about it
Honestly am new to this channel but I first got introduced to spookyloopz when chucky came out and watch him demonstrate his perks and add ons and offerings and I just wanted to say I love your videos all straight forward videos no issues of understanding at thank u so much
I can just imagine the entity greeting him when he arrived saying: “Your are in my realm, but I do not grant you the rank of God” “What, how can you do this, this is outrageous, it’s unfair. How can I be anywhere and not be a God” “Take a Mori, young Vecna” “No. I’ll take two.” “Fine.”
Vecna willingly submit to the Entity, at least for the time being. He'd more likely say, "Of course! Of course." while mentally plotting a way to research and oust the Entity. You know, Vecna finding Talbot and learning from him is a... scary thought.
As a D&D nerd, I find it hilarious that his best spell in DBD, mage hand, is as beginner as a spell can be in wizardry. But considering the devs had to implement a LITERAL GOD into a game where he stands side-by-side with "guy with knife" characters, I think he was very well implemented.
I can give a build for Vecna, Hex: plaything, Hex: pentimento, Hex: thrill of the hunt, and Hex: face the darkness. This is an impossible totem build and Survivors that can't get rid of their plaything have to power through the game with plaything and face the darkness. Making it extremely difficult for survivors to do objectives. I hope to see a video of this build :)
And this is where people say "the games killer sided" or "killer needs nerf" but in reality this is just a good player who knows their maps and what their doing, great gameplay keep it up ❤
i kinda forget the perk names now, but id really love to see if there is any viability with the myers perk uh dying light i think it was the perk where only the obsession gets a bonus to heal and unhook speed and everyone else loses that same amount, paired with um make your choice and the ghost face perk where when the obs is hooked the savior becomes the obs..there was one more perk i thought would be good, in some way friends till the end is helpful and hurtful to the build..i think it was grim embrace tbh just played well with the rotation of hooks so hook the obs, then proxy to return when saved for the make your choice, and the whole time the obs should be on hook taking 25% healing from everyone...then grim embrace to lock off gens and steamroll the game
"Hey, here's a situation for you: if you're up against a Gen Rush SWF that's focused solely on Gen rushing, you need to choose 4 perks for the match that can prevent them from doing gens or regress their progress as much as possible. Which 4 Gen regress perks would you use? And remember, the perks shouldn't interfere with each other. For example, if you have Hex: Ruin, then Pop Goes the Weasel is useless as long as the totem is up. So, they shouldn't overlap like that. The perks should work in combination, for example, Pop Goes the Weasel with Call of Brine. What would those 4 perk combinations be?"
personally I've been using jolt, thrilling tremors, lethal persuer and superior anatomy on ghostface. no addons and either survivor pudding or one of the hatch offerings if I bring offerings at all. i play on mobile though so PC players can probably make a better loadout.
@@silent.killer.6007 I only have eruption otherwise for gen slowing and it feels a bit of a waste for ghostface. I down people so quickly I can't really get a good chain of eruptions going.
Vecna is my favorite killer his anti loop game is so good. I love playing against him too I’ve made some CLUTCH plays with the hand of Vecna. Love the D and D chapter so much fun
Seeing how the vecna plays... i think when the Dr. Shocks a player and they drop play pallets or interactions should come with a a shock and stun like a pallet drop on a survivor
Every time you said "mage hand" for some reason I kept hearing it like it was "May Chan" like its an anime name or something LOL, I had to go back and see what "May Chan" is since I was just listening to the video mostly while I was playing something else myself.
He has the mark of negation on the back of his neck which BHVR confirmed is the Entity 'nerfing' him so he isn't lore-accurate powerful otherwise there would be no fun in the trials for the Entity to enjoy.
Let’s be fair pallets in and windows not let other nonsense it’s it won’t stop 99% of the killers in this game but still love it and I’m still a killer mean❤😂
Currently there's a bug, where if Vecna uses mage hand, but then gets stunned, the mage hand will still happen, and Vecna gets a free hit. They're changing that. Next patch, if you get stunned while mage hand is casting, then it will cancel the spell. So long as you either cast mage hand before the pallet, or after your stun, then it'll be fine.
@@celinagarza8001 Ok that's fine I was worried for a second lol they also need to fix how it works when survivors interact with it. I grabbed it during a survivors mid vault. To me that shouldn't work either after the animation and stuff it's fine Thanks for telling me
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Vecna was a wizard that hungered for power and took it whenever possible. He became a lich by killing himself and storing his soul in a phylactery, making him undead and immortal. He became so powerful he was known as an Arch-lich. Then he became a divinity, god of secrets and lichdom. Now in the new book that D&D is releasing that this DLC is tied to, he strives to gain the ultimate power and rewrite the endless multiverse in his image. Truly a monster of infinite ambition.
The way DBD tied him in was creative, he himself went to the entity's realm to research it, claimed a part of it to create his dungeon, and is just there learning. The entity put a seal on the back of his neck to inhibit his power and limit him to the 4 spells he can cast, because otherwise he could summon meteors, stop time, or just utter one word that kills a person.
Dope
They need to fix the dungeon area it's like old haddonfield window infinite. It's busted down their
Theres a book!? when is it due out?
I think they mean the new module book it is a D&D campaign it is called Eye of Ruin@aureliegilbert1523
@AbsoluteZero1991 ohhh the one where Neil newbon voiced him in the trailer...I remember seeing that
I love the idea that Vecna is just like "You know what? I'm bored, I'll play this spider's game and restrict myself to 4 of my weakest spells and melee."
That’s essentially what’s happening. He’s allowing himself to be restricted just so he can potentially learn more about the entities realm
But he's sealed his fate he can't actually use the weaves magic inside the realm he assumes he is but he's using what the entity gives him
@@mrboogosama5664 Vecna is a literal god. If humans can escape, he can as well. Besides, Vecna is better to have as a friend for the entity. Vecna would be able to get the Entity so many more souls to consume than the entity could ever want. Also Vecna is not stupid, I’m sure he’s made contingency plans for if the entity doesn’t let him go. One doesn’t become a lich and a god without having contingency after contingency. There’s no guarantee that Vecna’s soul is even there. He could just be remotely puppeteering it using magic.
We need to also remember that Vecna’s hand is also canonically in use on the material plane and The Entity doesn’t have Arkhan. That means Vecna can’t be fully in the Entity. The items in game are purely created by the entity.
@@mrboogosama5664Other way around the entity tried to completely nullify his magic power.
But it didn't work as you can see.
@@Skrillmast3r considering that the entity's realm is outside of the range of the weave(the source of magic in almost all dnd material) he is unable to use actual magic
Just as a minor note cause I'm a D&D nerd - that magic dagger, Afterthought, is actually a +5 dagger when wielded by Vecna himself. It just magically makes itself weaker if anyone else tries to use, hence why it specifically says "in the hands of anyone other than Vecna, it is a +2 dagger."
Little nerdy fun fact.
Quick n simple Vecna D&D Lore: He is THE lich, was the first to discover the process. He got betrayed by his close allies a couple times and said "Aight fuck y'all I'm ascending to godhood."
The statblock of him is pre-ascension, to give an idea of how strong this mf is.
Hes everything the dead 3 in baldur's gate wish they could be.
I didn’t understand a single thing in this explanation😁👍🏽.
@@IIThaGawdII "Often such a creature is the result of a willful transformation, as a powerful wizard skilled in necromancy who seeks eternal life uses rare substances in a magical ritual to become undead. Unlike zombies, which are often depicted as mindless, liches are sapient revenants, retaining their previous intelligence and magical abilities. Liches are often depicted as holding power over lesser mindless undead soldiers and servants." (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lich) The lore in Dungeons & Dragons says that he was the first of the first to figure out how to do it. After his buddies back-stabbed him he got tired of the grind & turned to the dark-side basically. In actual D&D, he is OP (a la Voldemort) so the little red circle with entity claws hovering on his neck is an "Entity's Seal" that makes him as strong as he normally was before he became so Super Saiyan he transformed into an immortal being.
@@IIThaGawdII Essentially, Vecna discovered how to put his soul in another object and achieve immortality so long as that object remains intact and occasionally fed souls. He was betrayed by allies, likely resulting in his hand and eye being lost, got pissed, and essentially found a process to make his immortality even stronger by essentially becoming the demigod of secrets and lichdom.
If you look up his stats to be used as an encounter in dungeons and dragons, it's his stats just as a lich, not as a demigod. He's incredibly powerful based on those stats, and he's only become more powerful.
Now the entity controlls him. I wanna see the entity as a killer soon. Like a big Ole shpider
I need you to understand that in DnD, mage hand is a cantrip, a little pissbaby spell that even starter mages can cast as much as they want. It can only lift 5 pounds. Vecna is literally a god. It's freaking hilarious to me that it's one of the strongest things he has in dbd.
To me, it's called mage hand. But it's the size of how I feel bigsby's hand is. Just a giant hand yanking up the pallet and destroying it, but he's so powerful even his most basic cantrip is that big and powerful in his kit
19:21 I had the exact same reaction when I saw those two broken pallets, lmao.
My favorite build for vecna is one I've been calling just Franklin's Attunement.
Franklin's demise, weave attunement, hex: plaything, pentimento. It shouldn't work nearly as well as it does. Closest I've gotten to losing is 2 gens left.
Oh and the add ons are the ring of spell storage or whatever for cooldowns, and ive forgotten the other one. Just bring whatever compliments your playstyle.
Vecna getting a concussion each time he flies in Lerrys
Vorpal Sword makes some pallet loops instant death for survivors. It turns dropped pallets into solid walls that survivors will think they can vault. If they trap themselves in an enclosed pallet loop where normally the only option is to break it, simply cast and watch the survivor on the other side find out what it's like to be caught between an immovable object and an unstoppable force. My favorite way to troll because these are normally very safe loops...until they're not.
Also gets bonus points for being able to stop "We'll make it" unhook heals with the orb. Just says nope to healing survivors. Pair that with A nurse's calling and you got the no heals build down pat.
22:42 These double pallets on the new maps are getting ridiculous
At 19:20, Spooky discovers the Atheist Pallet. 😅
God pallet, but on the killers side XD
There's also a DOUBLE PALLET right next to that tile.
@@joeluckyman DOUBLE PALLET (What does it mean?) (It means BHVR is bad at playtesting their maps)
he had the exact same reaction as me when i first saw it, just stop and stare in disbelief
Beyond impressed with the creativity on this build, mixing the killers power nicely along side the perks and add ons. AND you did research on Vecna trying to figure out how to make him really come alive in the game. Good work Spooky 👏
The stats you saw were for him when he was "Just the most powerful lich in the multiverse" before he ascended to a god.
To see how much stronger he is than most, just look up a Goblin or Orc stats. And the spot where it says his CR " Challenge Rating " That means roughly that if a party is level 2, a monster that is CR 2 should be moderate difficult, and anything higher than that, will be challenging. The maximum level what players can be, is 20.
A Goblin has a CR of 1/4th, so pretty damn low. A Dragon is CR 17.. Vecna is 26
And a terrasque has CR 30
@@dillity Okay you have good point, CR doesnt necessarily tell how deadly the enemy is, like Vecna vs Tarrasque is not even a match, as Vecna just casts, for example, True Polymorph and turns the tarrasque into a kitten.
But still the Tarrasque is basically godzilla minus the breath weapon, meaning its a mountain sized lizard with anger issues
@@_Lunaria Doesnt the tarrasque have skin that resists magic and can even reflect it?
Edit: I Found it "Reflective Carapace. Any time the tarrasque is targeted by a magic missile spell, a line spell, or a spell that requires a ranged attack roll, roll a d6. On a 1 to 5, the tarrasque is unaffected. On a 6, the tarrasque is unaffected, and the effect is reflected back at the caster as though it originated from the tarrasque, turning the caster into the target. " So as it stands true poly would still affect it.
@@IAmCasualty the problem with that is a Tarrasque has +9 to it's wisdom save and magic resistance, this isn't even mentioning it's three uses of legendary resistance. Hell if I am understanding the stat block correctly the Tarrasque would absolutely shit on Vecna
@nathancurnutt8074 the terrasque can be kited very easily though. Vecna could just fly above him and kill the terrasque eventually
A +2 dagger means a +2 modifiar ro attack rolls and damage rolls, on top of other bonuses. Vecna has a +13 to hit, and deals 1d4+5 (average 7.5), 2d8(average 9) in one hit (average 17), and he haa multiattack, meaning he can attack agaun, xoing an average of 32 damage with his dagger alone. For most ofher people, his dagger would deal 1d4+2 damage (average 5.5)
DnD nerds rise up!
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At 19:18, I had to deal with that pallet yesterday. I vaulted it and the killer went between it and the tree and knocked me down. Then he walked over to the pallet and hit it a couple times because he didn't understand, either.
I love using his new crow ability with the old noise notification crows. It helps alot with finding survivors whoever is last
My favorite Vecna build so far is: franklins, hoarder, weave attunement, overwhelming presence and bag of holding + robe of eyes for add-ons. Someone called it the minefield of aura reading build. Its so fun and theres really not much if any counterplay
The couterplay is to just ignore items
I was playing DBD yesterday and me and my cousin were playing online survivor and we were on the new DND map and if you have played the map you know about the Portals and me and my cousin tried to go through the Portal at the same time on accident and it kicked me out of the animation and the sent me cousin though the wall for the rest of the game and the best part was he ended up being the last survivor and the death slinger just sat there staring at a wall for like 3 minutes until the entity killed my cousin
Spooky my guy you should start a tips N Tricks series. They way your able to in detail describe the situations and your awareness of the setting is just phenomenal. much love man keep it up! 🔥💯
I don’t play DND much personally. But ima need for Lore and stories and DND is so rich with just potential in fantasy. As a writer I’ve written, created and expanded concepts, for characters and even full campaigns. That’s a whole story. But Vecna is such a big icon in the whole universe. Man I’d love to make a brutal campaign for people using him.
Im glad to see you can still enjoy playing the game and not be angry with it since you left the Fog Whisperer program. I think its not even worth it to be in the program and it would be funner to just enjoy the game and say what you want without worrying about making the company angry. Cheers!
I like to think that the entity is the one blinding and stunning killers, not the actual flashlights and pallets, the entity feeds of fear and other emotions so survivors stunning and blidning even someone as powerful as vecna or pinhead gives them an emboldened feeling. And keeping them alive longer gives more time to be scared.
As someone who's been playing D&D for YEARS seeing Vecna show up was unexpected but absolutely amazing
VECNA!! Casting spells, with both direction, AND, MAGNITUDE!! OH YEAH!!!
Vecna got those vector spells!!! 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
10:00 "that 10% is vaomygod they duthats ruin"- Mr spooky loopz
Dark arrogance + bamboozle is a devious perk combo
DnD vecna is legit either your big bad that the party takes on at the end of fhe campaign, the guy you never fight, or your Dm is trying to kill you.
Also I love that his spellbook is stored in his ribs...you could say he keeps his spells close to his chest
Pretty much. I've used him one time outside of those contexts, and it was using the party's mission to further his own insidious goals. One of the players was stupid enough to bargain with him. It was never my intent for it turn into Number 3, but damn it, it did.
@JRook-00 Haha, well I can't say much one of our paladins made a deal with Baphomet and my cleric trusted him more than Mystra soooo... (no legit if I had a nickel for everything I said 'fuck mystra' I woukd have two nickels, that's not a lot but it's weird it happened twice, the first was because my cleric told Mystra she wasnt going to tell her where an item was and mystra made it to where she couldnt talk at all....and the second time was Gale in Baldurs Gate 3)
“In terms of add-ons I wanted to pick a pair of pickled peppers”
To make vecna more evil, you should've had a mori or more mist
Man spooky, last summer I watched like all ur vids all ur streams twice and once I stopped I literally didn’t know who to watch that’s how entertaining u are bro so keep doing what you’re doing love ur vids man
I haven't lost a game as Vecna yet. I've played around 15-20 games since his release. Favorite killer release since Wesker
That tree pallet is the stuff of legend. I would have let that player out as repayment for the laugh from seeing that glitch in action.
Some people pointed out that there's a red mark on Vecna's back that the entity put there to nerf him, so he's not as powerful.
can i just say just started the video ran an almost identical build, but vecna can cook even with out perks or add ons, its wild how diverse the spells are.
23:55 imagine they made a new version of pallets. Tilted/leaning (normal pallets) then ones that just fall flat, and the killer could walk over it (if not stunned). Say god pallets for instance.
That ring add on is FILTHY. I know it's gonna get nerfed but god I love it
It’s so nutty 😭😭 but yeah it needs a nerf LOL
Honestly, I don't feel it needs a nerf. It is effective, but it doesn't prevent the pallet that was lifted from being immediately thrown down again, so it rewards the Killer for taking advantage of the Survivor urge to run after predropping due to imagining the Killer will have to lose distance to breaking or going around a dropped pallet. A Survivor who is ready for Mage Hand can stick around for a second and drop the pallet right on Vecna's head for a stun, with Mage Hand also on cooldown, at which point a Vecna might counter-counter play by seeing the Survivor not running, back up to avoid the stun, and swap to Flight of the Damned to get an injury while the Survivor is locked in the pallet dropping animation. Things shouldn't be nerfed just because the majority of Survivors haven't learned (or refuse to learn) counterplay to a Killer's Powers.
Not to mention the fact that treasure chests are extremely common and quick to open, so if you see a Vecna getting lots of Mage Hand value, you can search Treasure Chests until you find the boots or gloves (since you only need one to get the effect) that give you 5% Haste when Vecna uses Mage Hand, allowing you to not give up as much distance without forcing the Vecna to also attempt to use Dispel Magic on you as well (putting another spell on cooldown for a single hit/down, lowering his efficiency). Make your other magic item one of the ones that allows you to see the Dispel Magic sphere and potentially allow you to dodge the very slow spell, and you can completely screw a Vecna using the Ring of Telekinesis if he overcommits to you.
This has been said before…
That ring addon is his worst addon lol. It literally hurts him. If the survivor predictions he going to raise the pallet all they have to do is step in to the pallet bodyblocking it and drop it again before vecna has the ability to swing. I done that sooooooo many Vecnas already and the ring just makes it safer to do for survivors because they can drop it sooner.
I called this from the first hour of release, Ring of Telekinesis is RIDICULOUSLY POWERFUL with the basekit 0.5 second pallet lift time.
A couple Flight of the Damned tips for you aspiring Archliches out there:
- Use upward slopes to position yourself slightly below the survivors before firing if possible- it removes their ability to crouch to avoid the ghouls. Likewise, avoid trying to hit people downhill, they might not have to do anything. This is obviously quite map dependent, but try to chase people up stairs.
- The ghouls' active hit frames come out very fast. At close range, over pallets and relatively thin walls, you can position the ghouls to immediately spawn in and hit a survivor, provided they don't pre-crouch. Given how fast it is, it catches a lot of people by surprise and gets some very easy health states! The issue is getting used to the slight distance in front of you where the ghouls initially spawn, which isn't very clearly labeled in the UI.
Spooky demonstrated using it for zoning and slowing survivors by making them crouch, which is also useful. Also: breaking LoS with the survivor might help, but it makes a very distinct sound, so barring the direct hit strategy, survivors will probably crouch on reaction to the sound of the spell and still dodge.
Weave Attunment and Franklin’s Demise work well together. I also throw in Overwhelming Presence and Hoarder too. Absolutely slays on small, two story maps. Works well with Vecna but i think Pyramid Head and The Artist would do great too.
I love that in the time you managed to squeeze out this great video, the ring add-on was already nerfed.
Vecna may be the reason why I come back. Love dnd and love the versatility this man's packin
the reason why vecna can be inconvenienced by wooden palettes and flashlights despite demonstrating the ability to stop the entity from taking him with his spells is, once again, the entity nerfing him to oblivion
he also has a seal behind his neck - according to the dbd wiki, this seal (mark of negation) not only limits vecna's powers, it also prevents him from leaving the realm, meaning that he's stuck in here and any knowledge he gains will be kept within the realm
and even if he does somehow remove the seal and tries to leave, the entity will take notice and do something about it
Vecna is so fun and unique. I was very excited to see you play his release version. Great video, Spooky!
This build works way too well man sheesh, I love it
I’ve been having a blast messing around with this character, would love to see some more build ideas down the road!
15:55 ~ "COME CHASE ME, VECNA"
Poor silly Dwight on Lary's, he had no clue what's going on 😢
OMG I SAW THAT PALLET THIS MORNING AND IT WOULDN’T LET ME DROP IT!!! 19:12
that pally at the end, strongest pally in the game. calling it!
Honestly am new to this channel but I first got introduced to spookyloopz when chucky came out and watch him demonstrate his perks and add ons and offerings and I just wanted to say I love your videos all straight forward videos no issues of understanding at thank u so much
Can't wait for Anti-chest build as Vecna
I can just imagine the entity greeting him when he arrived saying:
“Your are in my realm, but I do not grant you the rank of God”
“What, how can you do this, this is outrageous, it’s unfair. How can I be anywhere and not be a God”
“Take a Mori, young Vecna”
“No. I’ll take two.”
“Fine.”
Vecna willingly submit to the Entity, at least for the time being.
He'd more likely say, "Of course! Of course." while mentally plotting a way to research and oust the Entity.
You know, Vecna finding Talbot and learning from him is a... scary thought.
20:22
Wait that voice line… Is Vecna aware he is being played as a character and breaking the fourth wall? xD
Hubris and Mage hand is so sick because it means that your main resource for activating hubris doesn’t run out
Perfect timing, just got my food
The pure evil series fills the void monto left in my heart. Ty spookyloops.
Spooky starts rapping like Eminem at 0:31
As a D&D nerd, I find it hilarious that his best spell in DBD, mage hand, is as beginner as a spell can be in wizardry.
But considering the devs had to implement a LITERAL GOD into a game where he stands side-by-side with "guy with knife" characters, I think he was very well implemented.
Tell me why spooky talking about the Vecna stats from DND sounded like an Eminem rap
Man I love this dude I kinda wish he would do a nemesis build
Thank you for introducing me to hubris + enduring vecna, I will use this to great effect :)
That mage hand is too OP
Holy CRAP, that lunge distance with Coup on Vecna is borderline criminal. My jaw dropped
I can give a build for Vecna, Hex: plaything, Hex: pentimento, Hex: thrill of the hunt, and Hex: face the darkness. This is an impossible totem build and Survivors that can't get rid of their plaything have to power through the game with plaything and face the darkness. Making it extremely difficult for survivors to do objectives. I hope to see a video of this build :)
And this is where people say "the games killer sided" or "killer needs nerf" but in reality this is just a good player who knows their maps and what their doing, great gameplay keep it up ❤
Even spookyloopz says the game is killer sided though… cause it is.
i kinda forget the perk names now, but id really love to see if there is any viability with the myers perk uh dying light i think it was
the perk where only the obsession gets a bonus to heal and unhook speed and everyone else loses that same amount, paired with um make your choice and the ghost face perk where when the obs is hooked the savior becomes the obs..there was one more perk i thought would be good, in some way friends till the end is helpful and hurtful to the build..i think it was grim embrace tbh just played well with the rotation of hooks
so hook the obs, then proxy to return when saved for the make your choice, and the whole time the obs should be on hook taking 25% healing from everyone...then grim embrace to lock off gens and steamroll the game
watching as you explained his background of dnd lore was quite funny +2 but then a +3 xD had me in stitches
15:08 what’s happening with enduring in the next coming weeks?
Tip for vecna: when there is elevatuon use flight of the dammed to get a guaranteed hit.
Definitely not guaranteed
Will there be a V3 vault Myers video? That Dark arrogance really cooks when vaulting, despite the drawback
Vecna is the most fun killer to go against imo. Every game with him with me as Surv has been a blast!
Bro that pallet at 19:20 is wild 💀 i died stunning the killer on it 😂
"Hey, here's a situation for you: if you're up against a Gen Rush SWF that's focused solely on Gen rushing, you need to choose 4 perks for the match that can prevent them from doing gens or regress their progress as much as possible. Which 4 Gen regress perks would you use? And remember, the perks shouldn't interfere with each other. For example, if you have Hex: Ruin, then Pop Goes the Weasel is useless as long as the totem is up. So, they shouldn't overlap like that. The perks should work in combination, for example, Pop Goes the Weasel with Call of Brine. What would those 4 perk combinations be?"
personally I've been using jolt, thrilling tremors, lethal persuer and superior anatomy on ghostface. no addons and either survivor pudding or one of the hatch offerings if I bring offerings at all. i play on mobile though so PC players can probably make a better loadout.
@@greysonalex na bro, I want full slot to be gen regression or stopping perks.
@@silent.killer.6007 I only have eruption otherwise for gen slowing and it feels a bit of a waste for ghostface. I down people so quickly I can't really get a good chain of eruptions going.
@@greysonalex nice even I wanted to try, but am from ban region 🥲, can't buy auric cells also🥲
23:58 I was confused when I saw it in my match too, but I didn't actually drop it ahah
Vecna is my favorite killer his anti loop game is so good. I love playing against him too I’ve made some CLUTCH plays with the hand of Vecna. Love the D and D chapter so much fun
That first down play was absolutely nuts 😳
I love vecna, his spells are so useful, but so far I have not gotten any usage out of mage hand so I'm glad spooky knows a trick for that
I play dnd a lot myself and seeing this new chapter has made me very happy
Seeing how the vecna plays... i think when the Dr. Shocks a player and they drop play pallets or interactions should come with a a shock and stun like a pallet drop on a survivor
Seems like he didnt found that window on Borgo yet
your reactions to the pallets were so real bc what the actual flip 😂
24:00 best part of the whole video lmao!
Stray Pallet is my new favourite mechanic!
I Hope that Behaviour will get some licence from Midway to use Quan Chi as skin for Vecna. It would be amazing.
Damage immunity: Bludgeoning.
Condition immunity: Paralyzed/stunned.
DBD pallet: I'm about to laugh at this whole man's career.
The Outro sound instrumental 🔥
Veccna needs one buff and it's for mage hand to block windows by floating infront of it and wagging its finger
Fun fact: Coup de grâce is french for the word knockout.
Every time you said "mage hand" for some reason I kept hearing it like it was "May Chan" like its an anime name or something LOL, I had to go back and see what "May Chan" is since I was just listening to the video mostly while I was playing something else myself.
The double pallet literally confuzed me so bad. I got hit and was like, surely its just a visual bug...
(It was not.)
He has the mark of negation on the back of his neck which BHVR confirmed is the Entity 'nerfing' him so he isn't lore-accurate powerful otherwise there would be no fun in the trials for the Entity to enjoy.
"where is the goth woman" got me and my bro laughing hard 😂
Let’s be fair pallets in and windows not let other nonsense it’s it won’t stop 99% of the killers in this game but still love it and I’m still a killer mean❤😂
I hope that pallets stay like that 😂😂😂
Spooky can you elaborate on what they will do to enduring?
Currently there's a bug, where if Vecna uses mage hand, but then gets stunned, the mage hand will still happen, and Vecna gets a free hit. They're changing that. Next patch, if you get stunned while mage hand is casting, then it will cancel the spell. So long as you either cast mage hand before the pallet, or after your stun, then it'll be fine.
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Ok that's fine I was worried for a second lol they also need to fix how it works when survivors interact with it. I grabbed it during a survivors mid vault. To me that shouldn't work either after the animation and stuff it's fine
Thanks for telling me
Vecna looks amazing, I'm actually impressed!
Why does the voice of vecna sound like the voice actor for gankplank from leauge of legends.
Who wouldve thought Vecna's weakness would be wooden pallets
I absolutely love the editing in the intro (I’m typing this as I watch)
Well done