Best to turn your key to already on position before even inserting the device into your OBD port. Keep the door close so you don't drain the battery down. They don't tell you this as they don't come with any instructions. I read this online on many forums and this trick seem to work for many. Also very important when you buy these you buy from a reputable seller. It's okay to buy from Chinese seller just make sure they have been around for awhile and have good customer support. Also always check to make sure you're getting the latest up to date devices so you can do more cars. You need to read the firmware carefully before buying. Tell them to send you a quick video of the device starting up to show the current firmware is the latest or if not latest not so out of date as to be pretty much useless. If they can't send a video a picture is fine as long as it is clear and you prove it's really their device by writing a word you told them to on a piece of paper to prove it's really them taking the picture for you. That it's not just some random picture they found online and sending it to you to trick you. You can know who to deal with or avoid by asking around in forums and blogs before buying any new device. Always try to buy it from eBay or Amazon prime seller so you can return it if it isn't as described or doesn't work at all. Especially when it comes to these devices that are hit and miss. Always use a credit card for purchase for protection as well.
yes, it works on some things. works on an 05 expedition, but not 04 or 03. also worked on a 06 ford f150. not sure the version, ill check it out this weekend
Hey, I literally had this same issue and tried numerous things, but what actually work was leaving the machine plugged in over night to the vehicle. Once I did that it finally read the ECU. Now I’m not saying you have to leave it plugged up this long, it could take a few hours and then work but just leave it plugged in for a few hours with the vehicle switched off. Just wanting to help and share info. By the way my vehicle was a 02 Ford Explorer.
Speaking from the UK i took a punt and bought one from ebay and it worked! i now have 3 keys programmed to the immobiliser for my 2003 Golf mk4 1.8T, i only had one before. It has more than paid for itself on just one car. They really all do work, was i just lucky? The only thing i did find was that if the cable was not properly attached to the back of the unit you would get ECU not found message so check the two screw attachments mounts as they may be loose.
I had the same problem. Come to find out my immobilezer was a Honda pilot 03 to 05 not an 03 Odyssey idk if it had been replaced before or a mistake but it worked easy as cake after that.
I also have this problem with other key programming tools. Sometime, it can be the wrong connector. Or just a case that the machine you have, simply does not work with your car. Not all key programmers work with all vehicles unless you spend 1000s of dollars on a top of the range OBD programmer.
follow up ,,,,,, i have tried it on a vuaxhall opal like its says it should work with it ,, but it does not work not the plugs as i have cleaned it ,, what a load of crap ,, i now agree with you
One other suggestion is to try the year before. I have had that work in the past with an MVP from AD. Even with the MVP I have seen a lot of weird things happen. Sometimes they have leftover parts from the year before and use them up?
+smittyo0 that is a great suggestion, but, alas, i tried it. This programmer has a real problem with ford expedition in general. I was buying them as totaled and putting some back on the road, using others for parts. So I've tried what you said, plus i tried using other similar vehicles like f150 or 250 to program mine with no luck. Bottom line, it didnt work on expeditions 03, 04, 06. It did work on an 05. Thats all ive tested it on. Actually i did an 06 f150 for a friend, that worked too.
ver (sw) 30.03.123 You got the old one , that's probably your issue . I got one of these on the way now , been using someone else's unit and never had an issue with it . Did you get your's to work ?
I have had issues with Asian OBD2 adapters that did not support the J1850 protocol used in several domestic vehicles. I hope this device supports atleast J1850 because I've ordered one.
DUDE that thing works in my experience. IT IS NOT FINDING THE ECU because your ODB2 fuse appears to be busted. Check it and replace. Its the fuse box on your driver side kick panel right below the dash board. Check your Expedition manual Have a nice day. Cheers!
I have that same unit from China and it programs keys for almost any car with immobilizers. I also own a 2000 expedition which I lost the last key so I bought this one. Works like charm :)
if the fuse was popped then the machine would not power on at all. sometimes with these machines you might try selecting a different year newer or older than what your vehicle is and sometimes they simply just dont work.
+imzjustplayin yes, i heard that, and it is a new battery. Still, because i heard that i hooked the charger up for a few hours prior to trying it, and left the charger on while using it. Still doesnt work. In the end, my final solution was to take the computer out and bring it to a friend who has a bench programmer, and he programmed the ecm to have no keys, as if it were a new ecm or reconditioned ecm, then when i put the keys in it for the first time i had to follow a short 5 minute programming process. Cost was zero, except time and effort. Thanks for your input!
Have you tried every option including under Ford Sud-America. I had the same problem with some Volkswagen and after trying all options I found one that worked.
Also if you do not plug in the power cord it will not work, I tried for several hours then plugged it the power supply, surprise it works. It will power up under the car power but won't program the keys.
I unknowingly bought an SBB clone. Used it for a 2002 Nissan Elgrand remote key successfully. Can't do the key blade as the ignition needs to be on to communicate. On Elgrands you can only turn the key if it is programmed. So, I read that you have to bypass the ignition and turn it on with a screwdriver. I'd assume this would work. For £70 it was worth the money. Hard to find a locksmith here in England who can do these cars.
Should list the version when it boots up. Check it out sometime when you get a chance. The viewers may appreciate the info! Thanks so much have a great day!
Just put regular Ford not Ford USA I had that same issue on Mitsubishi Lancer until I put just Mitsubishi without the USA and it worked just fine hope this helps
I've been using the same gadget on my shop for several years now and it always works perfectly, and already made me thousands of dollars more richer. I bought one directly from China, which is by the way where the Silca USA get their supply and just RE-BRAND them with a US name.. I GUESS YOU INSERTED A NONE BLANK TRANSPONDER KEY. YOU NEED TO USE A BLANK TRANSPONDER KEY FOR IT TO WORK. AND ALL TRANSPONDERS HAVE CORRESPONDING NUMBER CODES, All vehicles have different blank-transponder code numbers.
Thanks for watching, I apologise for the poor quality of the video, it was originally made in order to get a refund from the Chinese supplier. I did do everything correctly. And, full disclosure I bought another one which did the same thing. Other users have commented that other versions worked as they we're supposed to, specifically the model before this one. Maybe that's why yours works well, I'm not sure. Thanks for your input!
I did a little search regarding your SBB problem my friend, I think it has something to do with its software. You can tell the new versions with the new software on them by the Faceplate of the SBB. Older versions with un-updated software are ones with a light-greyish faceplate (the one that's on the outer LCD), while the new models with updated software has the black faceplate. But I read something about updrading software of SBB maybe it'll fix your gadget.
I have ck100 and always receive 'ECU not found' also maybe due to a NONE BLANK transponder key inserted, as I always put a programmed master key in. I will try with a blank one. Thanks for this helpful info.
Please make sure the month and year the vehicle was manufactured....a lot of times the car could be 2003 on the vin.. But has immobilzer system of 2002....but maybe you just got a lemon... usually those machines are amazing for the price...
I have the very same problem with my unit... have attempted several different cars with very few successes. I have other programmers that get the job done....so it's not the car , but the SBB that is at fault.
Just a heads up for anyone looking to get the CK-100 programmer. Make sure to get the v46.02 firmware version not the old outdated v99 version that are everywhere. Haven't use or bought either one but that's from everything I've read so far.
Some Fords you have to turn the key to the ignition position first then plug up the diagnostic plug in order for it to connect the MVP has this problem also.
+jack Thanks for your thoughts! Certainly it fails somewhere along the line, i was thinking more along the lines of faulty programming. Ford uses many different model number pcm for thier expedition. I believe it is programmed for some and not others. I guess it could be the cable, but then it should fail sometimes on ones i know it works on, and work sometimes on others it usually fails on. It consistently fails on 03 and 04 expedition, works consistently on my 05. Another person commented that the earlier version works more consistently.
See, with me, I've had it not fail consistently with the same vehicle. I've never had it fail with pcm, though. I guess the bottom line is if you buy these chinese knock offs, the quality control is zilch. I think we've have about 3 or 4 of this particular machine sitting in a bin somewhere. I've bought a couple of the CK100 programmers, and those seem to be much more stable.
I have this sbb and the ck100 version 46 and i have never had the sbb work on anything. The ck100 works every time ive tried it. Just did an 04 nissan murano yesterday. This guy is right DO NOT BUY THIS JUNK! Buy a ck100 version 46 not the 99. The ck is worth the 100 i spent on it.
@@johnbrennan7175 the protocol is completely different… internal program is different and internal circuits are different, they are very much not the same. No clue where you are getting your info but you are wrong sir.
Thank you for this excellent experience .. But I have a question: What is the preferred device which I can find in programming key and remotes for cars especially American cars? Please advise
NOTICE The clones with vehicles that do not work actually work in Deutsch and a couple other languages. Just figured this out. Its missing a few cars but opens up all of what was not functioning in English.
@@coolstuffhowtoandfishing5488 it is effective for the bug where you can not select the vehicle from the list. It just does nothing when you try to select. For the unable to connect to ecu bug you need the actual cable sbb uses you have a knockoff cable
for those that had this work , did you need the smart card to use it? i have one but have not usedit much..will it work out of the box with no ther purchases?
+Kyle Corey there is no card, just what is pre programmed into the machine. No additional cost. Just go in with your eyes open, it wont program all vehicles that are on its list
Yea I have not used it really yet ,but because it has that smart key port and it has an area on it for tokens I am wondering if I need more shit to even use the thing. I plan to buy a real one next over this.
I feel like first off you don’t have a key fob key which this unit mostly works with and if your computer your ECU is not working then this machine will not work also usually takes two times in for it to work
No, you do not necessarily "get what you pay for." Paying more does not make the product bought better. A cheaper product may in fact be better than the expensive. This refrain is consisten w/ PT Barnum, There's a sucker born every second" or whatever who said.
@@coolstuffhowtoandfishing5488 greetings! From what i seen from locksmiths is that it may take up to three times to program a key if it dont work the first couple times. Hope this info works for you.
I have bought three of these SBB for me and I have sold two now I have bought the SBB PRO-2 same works very well, I think maybe your car has communication problems or the communication protocol is not correct because I see that when connecting the team turns on the only thing the unit does not recognize.
+Zachary Kennedy good thinking, however I'm reasonably sure it's the unit itself because I tried it on multiple Ford expeditions. Only worked on an 05, not 03, 04, or 06....
well have you tried other vehicles maybe there is a glitch in the firmware i just find it hard to believe a whole unit that powers on doesnt work lol also if you could do me a favor and tell me does the unit say that it supports the 2005 pontiac g6?
+Zachary Kennedy no, it doesn't claim support for that. You should research that on UA-cam or something though, I thought there was a method to program GM keys without a programmer. I thought it was something like turn key on but don't start leave on for 10 min with all accessories off. Turn off for 10 seconds, repeat this 2 more times, then turn off, wait 5 seconds after the third cycle and your key is programmed and will start the car. Something like that....
+oversizerunescape good suggestion, thanks. Unfortunately i tried both those things having seen it somewhere as a suggestion. I didn't work in my case.
oversizerunescape yes that is correct. It has to do with the voltage. If its too low it will not work. Some Fords I had to try three times and you have to wait 15 minutes for the OBD to unlock. Can be tiresome.
Hi, maybe I am late with the commets, but your car had too low voltage - 11.3 V. For succesfull programming need to have at least 12.0 V, so need to charge the car battery. Also there is an additional 12 V charger in kit package, so you can try to use it, just I am not sure if it compatible in your area. Best regards!
by the way, i kept the unit. it was either partial refund and keep it, or ship it back for supposidly full refund, at my expense. so, your screwed either way.
+howard roberts great question. Yes, I did try that, as well as having the battery hooked up to a charger to make sure it had enough juice. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the reply. I see a new version 46.02 is out and they claim it's much better but it seems like a crap-shoot with all these boxes being mass produced so cheaply over in Asia. I played around with the mini zed-bull but there is a reason it's so inexpensive.
5:34 it never says press return , actually it shows you "could"press return or enter , but doesn't ask you to do it , i wonder if your transponder ring on the ignition is even working, it looks like it doesn't see the key .
+estrelladelnorte1308 yes, it is not compatible but it is supposed to be. As a side note, the one in the video is the second one i tried. The first one was used, purchased on ebay so i simply returned it for a refund, and i thought it was a broken used unit. Turns out the new one did the same thing. Bottom line is it does not work on everything it is supposed to. But it has plus sides too. Cheap cost, no tokens, etc.
I've been using the exact model, and copied all kinds of transponders without much of a hitch, (well the occasional.. mechanic done something to the immobilizer and we don\t know what problem) i tried on volkswagen, porche, honda, audi, rover, mercedes, Fiat, renault, citroen, ford. and just a few days ago on a ford made in the same year as yours and it worked fine.. of course i'm using it in Europe, so that may be the issue, also you maybe just received a faulty unit.. which is quite likely since they sure as hell feel like cheap, bad craftsmanship.
+Attila Kos Yes. What I've discovered is that there are different ecm modules for the same year vehicle in some cases, some ecm modules it works on, some it does not. Ford USA seems to be a particular problem. Honestly I've never tried it on anything other than fords, thats all I own anymore. This is the second one i bought though, thinking the first time i got a lemon, purchased on ebay so i was able to return it for a full refund easily. The one in the video i bought from aliexpress in china and it acted the same as the first. I bet it will do plenty of cars, just not the ones I need it to.....for the 70 odd bucks they cost, if someone is looking to add to their auto locksmith buisness this unit may not be a bad value, but in my experience it is hit or miss, more miss than hit, so if youre buying it for one car like i did be aware of that beforehand. Like you say though, it may work better on european or south american cars.
i see, well that sucks, they must have screwed up royally with the US versions then. as i never seen that error before.. sometimes it will say the process has failed and re-do it 1-2 times and it works. and yeah we are looking into getting one that isn't so tedious to use, better quality and a bit more modern.. since this thing doesn't copy anything made past 2006. agreed with you decent price tag, but not necessarily worth it as for a 30$ bump in the budget you can get a much better made product.
Silca is an Italian company that specializes in' key replacement, Key programming, Transponders, Receivers. They've been around for years and are extremely good at what they do. You purchased this off of Aliexpress #1 .... Its probably a clone for a cloning machine. Don't knock the company from a shady place you've purchased it at ....
I was ready to return it. My luck was that it worked from the beginning. Then I had a constant Ecu not found error. Untill I noticed that it worked with the battery car fully charged - that is the idea. If I made a mistake please excuse me.
Yes, so I see in your case, it worked for you. You are correct, in order for proper function the battery must be fully charged, and in the video it shows low voltage. I did, however also try this with a full charge, both with and without the charger hooked up at the time, it still didnt work in my case. The unit in the video was actually the second one of these I bought, and the first one didnt work either. The first one I bought used on ebay and when that didnt work i figured it must be a broken used unit so I bought this one new on ali express. Obviously this one didnt work either. I am glad yours worked though.
It's a RIPOFF was told that this would work on my 2003 VW Jetta US Specification and then after it arrived tried it to find that it will not pull up the key code you need to reprogram so I'm screwed and will lose money as I now have to pay the dealership $150 to have it done. Not easy being retired and on Social Security as this appears to be nothing more than an illegal boot leg of the real machine !
Sort of. i got a partial refund, equal to about 3/5 of what i paid. Do not buy from aliexpress if you do try one, the dispute process is purposely cumbersome, and lengthy, and favors the seller. took a couple months, and they try everything in the book to give no refund.
I own a mobile diag business have one exactly the same. Go back and try a few diff fords on your car. Will find that sometimes something out of left field will work as the immobilizers are the same. They are actually a good unit once you have used them for a while gotta remember a original one is 15 times the price :)
Yes, it works on the 05 Eddie Bauer Expedition my wife drives. Also worked on a an 06 f-150. But, what I needed it for, the sole purpose of the purchase, was the 03, which it wont work on.
hi i m interested to do key or vw/audi 2001-2005 model.they are good to make clone,easy to use,is worth to buy,i see on alliexpress people buy it over 200 order, or what u recommended to buy for that type of cars,any other better value one,a different method.thanks in advance.
+lucian maxim I wish i could recommend something to you, but i just dont know the answer. I can tell you that its around 70 bucks on aliexpress, at least here in the US. Im just a do it yourself guy, not an automotive locksmith, so I can't tell you if it works on a vw audi or not. I would recommend if you are considering buying one to download the supported vehicle list, but that is not foolproof, as mine was on the supported vehicle list, and didn't work. If you do buy, consider buying it on ebay, where you have decent buyer protection. It costs more on ebay, but its worth it. The dispute process on aliexpress is deliberately cumbersome and heavily favors the seller. And very, very lengthy. As long as you go into it knowing when dealing wirh Chinese product such as this you it is a gamble, you may loose. But if it works for you the first time you use it it pays for its self. Bottom line, if you are an auto locksmith a shop if you buy one it'll work on some things, and you'll probably get your money's worth. If you're just a guy looking to do one car like i was, consider just taking it to a dealer or locksmith.
I have the same unit… funny thing is your serial number is the same as mine… you can tell they cloned a good unit and stuck the image on mass produced, subpar parts… smh
I have bought same model as that SBB, waist of money because mine also does not work, some say it has a orange relay inside thats the good copy of SBB, but when i open my SBB it does not have a orange relay, as i open i notice that the slot for the SMART CARD and the port of RS232 does not have any connection with the pcv pannel inside.. in short this is a piec of crap device..
Correct. So why did they ship a RS232 Cable?? Card Reader. Good, not needed, that's a plus. I am thinking the OBD cable is not of high quality, and a bad connection may cause problems - references to wiggle it, dust corrosion etc. I will have to test if a car with a dead flat battery, then recharged, the ECU may be in a not-so-talkative state or needs one master key turn to fix it. Aim to fix that by sticking on a ELM reader to test that theory. People just cant to do elimination diagnostics these days.
@@coolstuffhowtoandfishing5488 thanks for the reply I think I'm going to get the CK-100. Do you know anything about the tokens? Do you have to buy tokens to program keys??
@@coolstuffhowtoandfishing5488 i have one of these SBB Machines but i have never used it . i use the M8 or the Autel maxidas ds708 and the ez400 xtool and the MVP MACHINE i have not came across a car i have not been able to do yet
I pulled it out and plugged it in to check for you. I am sorry, it is not on the supported vehicle list. Please subscribe, I need subscribers. Hours of views I have, but subscribers I am lacking. UA-cam's new partner rules. Anyways, good luck!
You are correct. However, it was also tried with full voltage and still didnt work. I literally must have tried it 100 times. I dont like to give up. Also tried it hooked to a charger too.
All u need is a USB to obd cable and a laptop and this software called forsake key programming this only works with fords tho and u can add , delete,add a key or delete and add all brand new keys with the software and computer tho anything else u have to have a programmer tho ur better programmers is the kd product or the zed bull like there minis other then that u may get a ck100 maybe and do them but that's it slick so other than that ur hit fr lol
And pay postage to china and wait 6 weeks. Then the send you another one that does the same thing 6 weeks later.I just cut my loss and took their partial refund. Lesson learned.
+Rob C Thanks for the advice. You are of course assuming I did not try that, as well as 100 other things. The video was required by AliExpress in order to prove that the unit did not work. I only posted it to try and help others make an informed decision. At this point, I've made far more on the video than the unit cost to begin with. This video is what prompted me to become a UA-cam partner and I began making more videos. While still not perfect, the quality of my videos are continually improving as I learn. I would remove this video due to poor quality except that it continues to be my highest revenue video. Thanks again for watching.
dude i use mine all the time. u paid under 100$ i am amusing. the real one cost about 2000 what are you complaining about you get what you pay for just buy a another china machine
You can buy this item from Amazon (for about $20 more than what I paid for, which was $78) and save you the agony of dealing with seller who have no idea of customer service.
FYI. Not one single programmer will work for all vehicles. Thats why auto locksmith will carry 2,3 or even 4 programmers. You get what you pay for when you buy cheap and old technology. Also, anything with an LCD screen is very old technology. Did you turn the key to the point when the dash lights light up?
This unit is very poor with Asian/Japan brands, because they have very small subset of ECU regional variations - which gives ECU not found like messages - because the ECU's vary a lot. Bad for Honda, Mazda seems better. The seller does not have a list of cars it does not work on. If only I could dump the eeprom memory and know what you get before buying.
Best to turn your key to already on position before even inserting the device into your OBD port. Keep the door close so you don't drain the battery down. They don't tell you this as they don't come with any instructions. I read this online on many forums and this trick seem to work for many.
Also very important when you buy these you buy from a reputable seller. It's okay to buy from Chinese seller just make sure they have been around for awhile and have good customer support. Also always check to make sure you're getting the latest up to date devices so you can do more cars. You need to read the firmware carefully before buying. Tell them to send you a quick video of the device starting up to show the current firmware is the latest or if not latest not so out of date as to be pretty much useless. If they can't send a video a picture is fine as long as it is clear and you prove it's really their device by writing a word you told them to on a piece of paper to prove it's really them taking the picture for you. That it's not just some random picture they found online and sending it to you to trick you.
You can know who to deal with or avoid by asking around in forums and blogs before buying any new device. Always try to buy it from eBay or Amazon prime seller so you can return it if it isn't as described or doesn't work at all. Especially when it comes to these devices that are hit and miss. Always use a credit card for purchase for protection as well.
Thanks for sharing this! It helps all of us see how these work or in this case - don't work.
How is your problem solved? I am also considering buying a machine, but do not know if your problem has been fixed yet?
Thank you for reading
yes, it works on some things. works on an 05 expedition, but not 04 or 03. also worked on a 06 ford f150. not sure the version, ill check it out this weekend
Have same one for my shop only worked one time out of the four all different cars get launch tool can do way more and works on everything
Hey, I literally had this same issue and tried numerous things, but what actually work was leaving the machine plugged in over night to the vehicle. Once I did that it finally read the ECU. Now I’m not saying you have to leave it plugged up this long, it could take a few hours and then work but just leave it plugged in for a few hours with the vehicle switched off. Just wanting to help and share info. By the way my vehicle was a 02 Ford Explorer.
Speaking from the UK i took a punt and bought one from ebay and it worked! i now have 3 keys programmed to the immobiliser for my 2003 Golf mk4 1.8T, i only had one before. It has more than paid for itself on just one car. They really all do work, was i just lucky? The only thing i did find was that if the cable was not properly attached to the back of the unit you would get ECU not found message so check the two screw attachments mounts as they may be loose.
I had the same problem. Come to find out my immobilezer was a Honda pilot 03 to 05 not an 03 Odyssey idk if it had been replaced before or a mistake but it worked easy as cake after that.
I also have this problem with other key programming tools. Sometime, it can be the wrong connector. Or just a case that the machine you have, simply does not work with your car. Not all key programmers work with all vehicles unless you spend 1000s of dollars on a top of the range OBD programmer.
follow up ,,,,,, i have tried it on a vuaxhall opal like its says it should work with it ,, but it does not work not the plugs as i have cleaned it ,, what a load of crap ,, i now agree with you
One other suggestion is to try the year before. I have had that work in the past with an MVP from AD. Even with the MVP I have seen a lot of weird things happen. Sometimes they have leftover parts from the year before and use them up?
+smittyo0 that is a great suggestion, but, alas, i tried it. This programmer has a real problem with ford expedition in general. I was buying them as totaled and putting some back on the road, using others for parts. So I've tried what you said, plus i tried using other similar vehicles like f150 or 250 to program mine with no luck. Bottom line, it didnt work on expeditions 03, 04, 06. It did work on an 05. Thats all ive tested it on. Actually i did an 06 f150 for a friend, that worked too.
ver (sw) 30.03.123 You got the old one , that's probably your issue . I got one of these on the way now , been using someone else's unit and never had an issue with it .
Did you get your's to work ?
+Wind nope. But at this point, I'm okay with that, I've made more on this stupid video than the darn thing cost to begin with lol
I have had issues with Asian OBD2 adapters that did not support the J1850 protocol used in several domestic vehicles. I hope this device supports atleast J1850 because I've ordered one.
Never did get it to program a single key.
DUDE that thing works in my experience. IT IS NOT FINDING THE ECU because your ODB2 fuse appears to be busted. Check it and replace. Its the fuse box on your driver side kick panel right below the dash board. Check your Expedition manual
Have a nice day. Cheers!
+Fernan Ramos i will try that and get back with you. I know it communicates with a code reader, but still, ill try anything. Thanks
I have that same unit from China and it programs keys for almost any car with immobilizers. I also own a 2000 expedition which I lost the last key so I bought this one. Works like charm :)
+Fernan Ramos wait, i just had a thought. The fuse cant be bad because the unit draws its power from the obd2 port. No?
if the fuse was popped then the machine would not power on at all. sometimes with these machines you might try selecting a different year newer or older than what your vehicle is and sometimes they simply just dont work.
Try older/newer years, that works. I’ve got the original programmer like this, and it has similar issues once in a while
I am a locksmith for 28 years and I use shh and it works okay but it has a problem ecu it’s not the programming
Battery voltage seems very low, would not try programming an immobilizer with that low of voltage.
+imzjustplayin yes, i heard that, and it is a new battery. Still, because i heard that i hooked the charger up for a few hours prior to trying it, and left the charger on while using it. Still doesnt work. In the end, my final solution was to take the computer out and bring it to a friend who has a bench programmer, and he programmed the ecm to have no keys, as if it were a new ecm or reconditioned ecm, then when i put the keys in it for the first time i had to follow a short 5 minute programming process. Cost was zero, except time and effort. Thanks for your input!
As long as your key does not have chip in it, it won't programm it. Did your key had a chip in it?
Have you tried every option including under Ford Sud-America. I had the same problem with some Volkswagen and after trying all options I found one that worked.
Besides, have you checked where your car is manufactured? If the car is located in USA does not mean that it was made there :)
Also if you do not plug in the power cord it will not work, I tried for several hours then plugged it the power supply, surprise it works. It will power up under the car power but won't program the keys.
+porscheman2944 tried that too. In my case, it doesn't work. Thanks for your input
I unknowingly bought an SBB clone. Used it for a 2002 Nissan Elgrand remote key successfully. Can't do the key blade as the ignition needs to be on to communicate. On Elgrands you can only turn the key if it is programmed. So, I read that you have to bypass the ignition and turn it on with a screwdriver. I'd assume this would work. For £70 it was worth the money. Hard to find a locksmith here in England who can do these cars.
My first thought is that the door should be closed but who knows.
It's got to be the unit itself because I have the same one and use it all the time. It has made me a lot of money.
Which version do you have? I heard earlier ones worked well. Thanks for your input!
Mine was version 33.02. I'd be interested to know if yours is a different version. I did have the same issue with two units, same version, 33.02
I'm not sure right now. I have had it a long time. It is good up to 2012 models
Should list the version when it boots up. Check it out sometime when you get a chance. The viewers may appreciate the info! Thanks so much have a great day!
Just put regular Ford not Ford USA I had that same issue on Mitsubishi Lancer until I put just Mitsubishi without the USA and it worked just fine hope this helps
+Tswizzy210 I will check that out, thanks!
I've been using the same gadget on my shop for several years now and it always works perfectly, and already made me thousands of dollars more richer. I bought one directly from China, which is by the way where the Silca USA get their supply and just RE-BRAND them with a US name.. I GUESS YOU INSERTED A NONE BLANK TRANSPONDER KEY. YOU NEED TO USE A BLANK TRANSPONDER KEY FOR IT TO WORK. AND ALL TRANSPONDERS HAVE CORRESPONDING NUMBER CODES, All vehicles have different blank-transponder code numbers.
Thanks for watching, I apologise for the poor quality of the video, it was originally made in order to get a refund from the Chinese supplier. I did do everything correctly. And, full disclosure I bought another one which did the same thing. Other users have commented that other versions worked as they we're supposed to, specifically the model before this one. Maybe that's why yours works well, I'm not sure. Thanks for your input!
I did a little search regarding your SBB problem my friend, I think it has something to do with its software. You can tell the new versions with the new software on them by the Faceplate of the SBB. Older versions with un-updated software are ones with a light-greyish faceplate (the one that's on the outer LCD), while the new models with updated software has the black faceplate. But I read something about updrading software of SBB maybe it'll fix your gadget.
Very useful information, thank you!
I have ck100 and always receive 'ECU not found' also maybe due to a NONE BLANK transponder key inserted, as I always put a programmed master key in. I will try with a blank one. Thanks for this helpful info.
how do you change the number 2 to a A? the pin code is 6543A. where is the function key?
Please make sure the month and year the vehicle was manufactured....a lot of times the car could be 2003 on the vin..
But has immobilzer system of 2002....but maybe you just got a lemon... usually those machines are amazing for the price...
it worked for me..I had the same prioblem and I just updated the firmware ..it works great..i made my money back and then some!
how did u update it
I have the very same problem with my unit... have attempted several different cars with very few successes. I have other programmers that get the job done....so it's not the car , but the SBB that is at fault.
+kg4st yeah. Same here. The good news is it was cheap, so not a huge loss
need buy tokens
Just a heads up for anyone looking to get the CK-100 programmer. Make sure to get the v46.02 firmware version not the old outdated v99 version that are everywhere. Haven't use or bought either one but that's from everything I've read so far.
Thanks for your input!
Some Fords you have to turn the key to the ignition position first then plug up the diagnostic plug in order for it to connect the MVP has this problem also.
+Robert Wilkins interesting. Not something i tried....ill check it out when i get a chance and get back to you. Thanks!
did it work?
Cool stuff, How to and Fishing
Did it work?
+basil abedallah not for my vehicle, however I have used it for others with success. All in all, it works half the time.
I found it that the obd cable is the problem more than the machine. i've done plenty of those vehicles your'e working on.
+jack
Thanks for your thoughts! Certainly it fails somewhere along the line, i was thinking more along the lines of faulty programming. Ford uses many different model number pcm for thier expedition. I believe it is programmed for some and not others. I guess it could be the cable, but then it should fail sometimes on ones i know it works on, and work sometimes on others it usually fails on. It consistently fails on 03 and 04 expedition, works consistently on my 05. Another person commented that the earlier version works more consistently.
See, with me, I've had it not fail consistently with the same vehicle. I've never had it fail with pcm, though. I guess the bottom line is if you buy these chinese knock offs, the quality control is zilch. I think we've have about 3 or 4 of this particular machine sitting in a bin somewhere. I've bought a couple of the CK100 programmers, and those seem to be much more stable.
+jack
All good info..thank you.
SBB Pro2 work just fine on my 04 ford explorer xlt v6, under few 10 min.
I have this sbb and the ck100 version 46 and i have never had the sbb work on anything. The ck100 works every time ive tried it. Just did an 04 nissan murano yesterday. This guy is right DO NOT BUY THIS JUNK! Buy a ck100 version 46 not the 99. The ck is worth the 100 i spent on it.
Both the SBB and CK100 are the same tool, just in different casing.
@@johnbrennan7175 the protocol is completely different… internal program is different and internal circuits are different, they are very much not the same. No clue where you are getting your info but you are wrong sir.
because you know how to use it.you have to check why it does not comunicate with the ecu.i dont think is the sbb
Thank you for this excellent experience ..
But I have a question: What is the preferred device which I can find in programming key and remotes for cars especially American cars?
Please advise
NOTICE
The clones with vehicles that do not work actually work in Deutsch and a couple other languages.
Just figured this out. Its missing a few cars but opens up all of what was not functioning in English.
Thats a tip worth checking out!
Now, if I only still had any of those vehicles....lol!
@@coolstuffhowtoandfishing5488 it is effective for the bug where you can not select the vehicle from the list. It just does nothing when you try to select. For the unable to connect to ecu bug you need the actual cable sbb uses you have a knockoff cable
for those that had this work , did you need the smart card to use it? i have one but have not usedit much..will it work out of the box with no ther purchases?
+Kyle Corey there is no card, just what is pre programmed into the machine. No additional cost. Just go in with your eyes open, it wont program all vehicles that are on its list
Yea I have not used it really yet ,but because it has that smart key port and it has an area on it for tokens I am wondering if I need more shit to even use the thing. I plan to buy a real one next over this.
+Kyle Corey no tokens, at least not on mine
Kerry Mueller ok thx
@@kylecorey88 it sounds like you have a genuine SBB
I got the orginal uts really old but works a treat i done an audi a2 today job done in 5 mins
I feel like first off you don’t have a key fob key which this unit mostly works with and if your computer your ECU is not working then this machine will not work also usually takes two times in for it to work
No, you do not necessarily "get what you pay for." Paying more does not make the product bought better. A cheaper product may in fact be better than the expensive. This refrain is consisten w/ PT Barnum, There's a sucker born every second" or whatever who said.
+Thunkful2 well said. Thanks for watching!
yes
@@coolstuffhowtoandfishing5488 greetings! From what i seen from locksmiths is that it may take up to three times to program a key if it dont work the first couple times. Hope this info works for you.
I have bought three of these SBB for me and I have sold two now I have bought the SBB PRO-2 same works very well, I think maybe your car has communication problems or the communication protocol is not correct because I see that when connecting the team turns on the only thing the unit does not recognize.
yep me , say hello sucker every one
i would check the connections to your ECU and the obdii port it could be an issue
+Zachary Kennedy good thinking, however I'm reasonably sure it's the unit itself because I tried it on multiple Ford expeditions. Only worked on an 05, not 03, 04, or 06....
well have you tried other vehicles maybe there is a glitch in the firmware i just find it hard to believe a whole unit that powers on doesnt work lol also if you could do me a favor and tell me does the unit say that it supports the 2005 pontiac g6?
+Zachary Kennedy no, it doesn't claim support for that. You should research that on UA-cam or something though, I thought there was a method to program GM keys without a programmer. I thought it was something like turn key on but don't start leave on for 10 min with all accessories off. Turn off for 10 seconds, repeat this 2 more times, then turn off, wait 5 seconds after the third cycle and your key is programmed and will start the car. Something like that....
tried all those thanks for the help though actually did so much trying i broke my one key off in the ignition managed to get it back out thank god
+Zachary Kennedy phew!
Works perfect for me all the time
fords are terrible for keys not going in, alot of the time its because of the battery voltage, try again with a battery hooked up also close the door
+oversizerunescape good suggestion, thanks. Unfortunately i tried both those things having seen it somewhere as a suggestion. I didn't work in my case.
oh well that sucks, all the best!
oversizerunescape yes that is correct. It has to do with the voltage. If its too low it will not work. Some Fords I had to try three times and you have to wait 15 minutes for the OBD to unlock.
Can be tiresome.
HI BUD ...... RIGHT ITS NOT THE SSB .... DO THIS CHECK YOUR DIAGNOSIS PLUG .... IT MAY BE CORRODED WITH GREEN ON THE PINS ,, I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM
Hi, maybe I am late with the commets, but your car had too low voltage - 11.3 V. For succesfull programming need to have at least 12.0 V, so need to charge the car battery. Also there is an additional 12 V charger in kit package, so you can try to use it, just I am not sure if it compatible in your area. Best regards!
I got one two use it on about 10 cars and it's the same wiv all of them comes up wiv ecu not found
by the way, i kept the unit. it was either partial refund and keep it, or ship it back for supposidly full refund, at my expense. so, your screwed either way.
Change language to Deutsch and all the vehicles will work where they didnt on English
May you have problem with ecu communication
All the videos show low voltage. Has anyone tried it with the power supply connected? Maybe the port cant supply enough juice.
+howard roberts great question. Yes, I did try that, as well as having the battery hooked up to a charger to make sure it had enough juice. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the reply. I see a new version 46.02 is out and they claim it's much better but it seems like a crap-shoot with all these boxes being mass produced so cheaply over in Asia. I played around with the mini zed-bull but there is a reason it's so inexpensive.
5:34 it never says press return , actually it shows you "could"press return or enter , but doesn't ask you to do it , i wonder if your transponder ring on the ignition is even working, it looks like it doesn't see the key .
+estrelladelnorte1308 good point...ill have to look at that when i get a chance.
I just watched other videos and looks like you were doing it the right way , maybe your car is not compatible with this.
+estrelladelnorte1308 yes, it is not compatible but it is supposed to be. As a side note, the one in the video is the second one i tried. The first one was used, purchased on ebay so i simply returned it for a refund, and i thought it was a broken used unit. Turns out the new one did the same thing. Bottom line is it does not work on everything it is supposed to. But it has plus sides too. Cheap cost, no tokens, etc.
thanks for the info .
I've been using the exact model, and copied all kinds of transponders without much of a hitch, (well the occasional.. mechanic done something to the immobilizer and we don\t know what problem)
i tried on volkswagen, porche, honda, audi, rover, mercedes, Fiat, renault, citroen, ford.
and just a few days ago on a ford made in the same year as yours and it worked fine..
of course i'm using it in Europe, so that may be the issue,
also you maybe just received a faulty unit.. which is quite likely since they sure as hell feel like cheap, bad craftsmanship.
+Attila Kos
Yes. What I've discovered is that there are different ecm modules for the same year vehicle in some cases, some ecm modules it works on, some it does not. Ford USA seems to be a particular problem. Honestly I've never tried it on anything other than fords, thats all I own anymore. This is the second one i bought though, thinking the first time i got a lemon, purchased on ebay so i was able to return it for a full refund easily. The one in the video i bought from aliexpress in china and it acted the same as the first. I bet it will do plenty of cars, just not the ones I need it to.....for the 70 odd bucks they cost, if someone is looking to add to their auto locksmith buisness this unit may not be a bad value, but in my experience it is hit or miss, more miss than hit, so if youre buying it for one car like i did be aware of that beforehand. Like you say though, it may work better on european or south american cars.
i see, well that sucks, they must have screwed up royally with the US versions then.
as i never seen that error before.. sometimes it will say the process has failed and re-do it 1-2 times and it works.
and yeah we are looking into getting one that isn't so tedious to use, better quality and a bit more modern.. since this thing doesn't copy anything made past 2006.
agreed with you decent price tag, but not necessarily worth it as for a 30$ bump in the budget you can get a much better made product.
+Attila Kos great input, thank you very much.
how do you change 2 to a A on pin code 6543A?
You must use the chinese chips .
thank you!!!
+Mihai Munteanu welcome. Knowlege is power. If you read all the comments there is some good info in there as well if you are interested
Did you try with an original SBB?
+Josue Haro No, I'm sure one that wasn't counterfeit would have worked. No I ended up just taking it to the Ford dealer to be programmed.
Silca is an Italian company that specializes in' key replacement, Key programming, Transponders, Receivers. They've been around for years and are extremely good at what they do. You purchased this off of Aliexpress #1 .... Its probably a clone for a cloning machine. Don't knock the company from a shady place you've purchased it at ....
Good point, yes I understand that this is a cheap Chinese clone. The real deal I'm sure works well. Great point to make, thanks!
i wrote them and they dont know anything about it except sell it.
Battery must be fully charged. Voltage > 11.5 V. Works very fine.
Please read other coments regarding this.
I was ready to return it. My luck was that it worked from the beginning. Then I had a constant Ecu not found error. Untill I noticed that it worked with the battery car fully charged - that is the idea. If I made a mistake please excuse me.
Yes, so I see in your case, it worked for you. You are correct, in order for proper function the battery must be fully charged, and in the video it shows low voltage. I did, however also try this with a full charge, both with and without the charger hooked up at the time, it still didnt work in my case. The unit in the video was actually the second one of these I bought, and the first one didnt work either. The first one I bought used on ebay and when that didnt work i figured it must be a broken used unit so I bought this one new on ali express. Obviously this one didnt work either.
I am glad yours worked though.
It's a RIPOFF was told that this would work on my 2003 VW Jetta US Specification and then after it arrived tried it to find that it will not pull up the key code you need to reprogram so I'm screwed and will lose money as I now have to pay the dealership $150 to have it done. Not easy being retired and on Social Security as this appears to be nothing more than an illegal boot leg of the real machine !
+DENNIS CARNEY
Yes, it really is hit or miss. My ultimate goal here is to help people make an informed decision. Thanks for your input!
manufacture moved from Italy to Taiwan and now China. I have no problem with that even though I am only an occasional user.
I'm sure its counterfeit. As another user mentioned, the real unit is a pile of money. Thanks for your input
Sort of. i got a partial refund, equal to about 3/5 of what i paid. Do not buy from aliexpress if you do try one, the dispute process is purposely cumbersome, and lengthy, and favors the seller. took a couple months, and they try everything in the book to give no refund.
I own a mobile diag business have one exactly the same. Go back and try a few diff fords on your car. Will find that sometimes something out of left field will work as the immobilizers are the same. They are actually a good unit once you have used them for a while gotta remember a original one is 15 times the price :)
Yes, it works on the 05 Eddie Bauer Expedition my wife drives. Also worked on a an 06 f-150. But, what I needed it for, the sole purpose of the purchase, was the 03, which it wont work on.
hi i m interested to do key or vw/audi 2001-2005 model.they are good to make clone,easy to use,is worth to buy,i see on alliexpress people buy it over 200 order,
or what u recommended to buy for that type of cars,any other better value one,a different method.thanks in advance.
+lucian maxim I wish i could recommend something to you, but i just dont know the answer. I can tell you that its around 70 bucks on aliexpress, at least here in the US. Im just a do it yourself guy, not an automotive locksmith, so I can't tell you if it works on a vw audi or not. I would recommend if you are considering buying one to download the supported vehicle list, but that is not foolproof, as mine was on the supported vehicle list, and didn't work. If you do buy, consider buying it on ebay, where you have decent buyer protection. It costs more on ebay, but its worth it. The dispute process on aliexpress is deliberately cumbersome and heavily favors the seller. And very, very lengthy. As long as you go into it knowing when dealing wirh Chinese product such as this you it is a gamble, you may loose. But if it works for you the first time you use it it pays for its self. Bottom line, if you are an auto locksmith a shop if you buy one it'll work on some things, and you'll probably get your money's worth. If you're just a guy looking to do one car like i was, consider just taking it to a dealer or locksmith.
Cool stuff, How to and Fishing did you check the obd II fuse?
I have the same unit… funny thing is your serial number is the same as mine… you can tell they cloned a good unit and stuck the image on mass produced, subpar parts… smh
Well it's because you have purchased SBB clone! Real one have Silca logo on the front of it
+Yevheniy Bochkarov yes, i am aware. Thanks for your input.
I have bought same model as that SBB, waist of money because mine also does not work, some say it has a orange relay inside thats the good copy of SBB, but when i open my SBB it does not have a orange relay, as i open i notice that the slot for the SMART CARD and the port of RS232 does not have any connection with the pcv pannel inside.. in short this is a piec of crap device..
Exactly. Thanks for sharing
Correct. So why did they ship a RS232 Cable?? Card Reader. Good, not needed, that's a plus. I am thinking the OBD cable is not of high quality, and a bad connection may cause problems - references to wiggle it, dust corrosion etc.
I will have to test if a car with a dead flat battery, then recharged, the ECU may be in a not-so-talkative state or needs one master key turn to fix it. Aim to fix that by sticking on a ELM reader to test that theory. People just cant to do elimination diagnostics these days.
Who did you order it from, because I was going to buy one of those. I want to avoid that seller. Thanks
Ali express. Cant remember the exact seller, there are a ton on there.
@@coolstuffhowtoandfishing5488 thanks for the reply I think I'm going to get the CK-100. Do you know anything about the tokens? Do you have to buy tokens to program keys??
Not with the model i bought, im unsure about others...
Just like I'm sure everybody has heard if it sounds to good to be true it probably is (to good to be true)
You are correct!
@@coolstuffhowtoandfishing5488 i have one of these SBB Machines but i have never used it .
i use the M8 or the Autel maxidas ds708 and the ez400 xtool and the MVP MACHINE i have not came across a car i have not been able to do yet
Hi there,
Does it cover a 2004 Volvo C70 by any chance,
cheers
Joe.
I pulled it out and plugged it in to check for you. I am sorry, it is not on the supported vehicle list. Please subscribe, I need subscribers. Hours of views I have, but subscribers I am lacking. UA-cam's new partner rules. Anyways, good luck!
Done and thanks.
should have just had a locksmith make and program an extra key.
Probably right, but on the flip side it was useful to me on 2 occasions. Thanks for watching!
Won't work when your battery is not at 12 volts
now i have tried it on a peugot 307 guess what not working on this as well come on whats going on with this lup of crap thats what it is
Put programmer into Deutsch language mode and you are chappy
Im probably wrong but isn't that a Ford EXPLORER?
It says "Expedition" on the back of the vehicle when the video starts.
Did you get a refund?
Sorry, I'm still new at this. I replied, but the answer went into the all comments section. I accepted a Partial refund, 3/5 of what I paid.
you have low battery voltage your ecu will not function properly
You are correct. However, it was also tried with full voltage and still didnt work. I literally must have tried it 100 times. I dont like to give up. Also tried it hooked to a charger too.
I just bought a CK 100 and it doesn't work so its going back!!😈😈😈
All u need is a USB to obd cable and a laptop and this software called forsake key programming this only works with fords tho and u can add , delete,add a key or delete and add all brand new keys with the software and computer tho anything else u have to have a programmer tho ur better programmers is the kd product or the zed bull like there minis other then that u may get a ck100 maybe and do them but that's it slick so other than that ur hit fr lol
Just send it back and they give you a new one
And pay postage to china and wait 6 weeks. Then the send you another one that does the same thing 6 weeks later.I just cut my loss and took their partial refund. Lesson learned.
Did you get your money back?
A portion, not all. I cant remember how much anymore....
Maybe the cable is no good
Put the key in and turn the console on before you plug in the device, instead of making a video, trouble shoot a little.....
+Rob C Thanks for the advice. You are of course assuming I did not try that, as well as 100 other things. The video was required by AliExpress in order to prove that the unit did not work. I only posted it to try and help others make an informed decision. At this point, I've made far more on the video than the unit cost to begin with. This video is what prompted me to become a UA-cam partner and I began making more videos. While still not perfect, the quality of my videos are continually improving as I learn. I would remove this video due to poor quality except that it continues to be my highest revenue video. Thanks again for watching.
Any new sbb tool is fake they dont make them anymore and haven't for years
check how many token this have .
Unlimited.
try other years options of car expedition..... your version 33.2?? bad version... great version 33.1....
Sorry it took so long to respond. Yes, it is version 33.2. Thanks for the info!
dude i use mine all the time. u paid under 100$ i am amusing. the real one cost about 2000 what are you complaining about you get what you pay for just buy a another china machine
2000 for silca sbb? Quit lying and showing off man. You know what 2000 bucks is?
"You people"
I have also bought, but also doesn't work, fake items
well you did buy a clone machine - you get what you pay for dude
+Ross Canpolat absolutely true...
You can buy this item from Amazon (for about $20 more than what I paid for, which was $78) and save you the agony of dealing with seller who have no idea of customer service.
+champt99 yes, for sure. No more aliexpress for me.
+champt99 yes, for sure. No more aliexpress for me.
+champt99 yes, for sure. No more aliexpress for me.
+champt99 yes, for sure. No more aliexpress for me.
+champt99 yes, for sure. No more aliexpress for me.
FYI. Not one single programmer will work for all vehicles. Thats why auto locksmith will carry 2,3 or even 4 programmers. You get what you pay for when you buy cheap and old technology. Also, anything with an LCD screen is very old technology. Did you turn the key to the point when the dash lights light up?
This unit is very poor with Asian/Japan brands, because they have very small subset of ECU regional variations - which gives ECU not found like messages - because the ECU's vary a lot. Bad for Honda, Mazda seems better. The seller does not have a list of cars it does not work on. If only I could dump the eeprom memory and know what you get before buying.
is traah
have you tried the year that the car was built, year models aren't built that year. Stop being a cry baby