[3.22] Cast on Crit Fireball Nimis (Projectiles Everywhere!) - Path of Exile Trial of Ancestors

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  • @PhoenixLive_YT
    @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому +14

    Notes (Please Read):
    1- This is a VERY high-end build as it's the fastest mapper in the game, hence, it's expensive
    2- This build is neither tanky nor glass cannon, it uses the unique defensive interaction of (Petrified Blood + Dissolution Jewel), Captain Lance explained how it works in a video
    3- sorry for mispronouncing Palsteron name in the video (lol)

  • @FlyyPanda
    @FlyyPanda Рік тому +19

    NOTE: NIMIS WAS NERFED AND CAN NO LONGER SHOTGUN FIREBALL.
    I tried out both this build and Palsteron's version, making minor adjustments to accommodate for the v3.22 changes and personal playstyle. Spent a non-trivial amount of time and currency making it happen, even got the Mageblood for good measure. Here are my thoughts.
    This is by far the fastest mapping build I've ever played, it's almost laughable how fast it clears! Running fully juiced T16 8-mod corrupted Cemetery with Breach/Legion/Harvest takes about 2-3 min.
    However, sadly this is not a great bossing build because of the Nimis nerf. To explain, Nimis used to cause all projectiles to "return to you" as stated in the item description. This means Fireballs will fly out, return, and blow up at your feet (see Palsteron's video for detailed explanation). Now however, as shown in Phoenix's video, Nimis will cause projectiles to fly out, change direction to return, but then fly PAST & behind the character without exploding. This is absolutely massive since you can no longer "shotgun" fireballs. This means in boss fights, despite the billion projectiles on screen, each cast will disappointingly only hit the boss once. To get the shotgun effect, you'd need the boss to be standing next to a wall, which is super unreliable.
    Comparing this build to Palsteron's version, you definitely get a ton more damage Power stacking. Phoenix didn't mention Tattoos, but you can also Tattoo a large INT node for another +1 Max Power, and make up for any lacking resistances/spell suppress with small Tats. The trade for more damage is tankiness, I would argue that it leans much more into the "glass cannon" side of life. Dissolution of The Flesh + Petrified Blood is a cute combo, but feels bad since you have to "take no damage for 2 seconds", which is longer than one might think.
    Lastly, Phoenix called it out, but this build is NOT CHEAP, and the challenge it faces with Ubers with the Nimis nerf really takes away from the appeal. Even without the Mageblood, I still spent about 150-200 divines making it happen. The higher damage ceiling with power stacking helps a bit with Uber viability, but this is by no means a bossing build. Ultimately if I were to pick, I personally prefer Palsteron's version a bit more due to the better tankiness, cost efficiency, and overall QOL. But, if you just want to see stupidly high numbers, don't let me stop you from trying it out!

    • @caneca4395
      @caneca4395 Рік тому +1

      Thank you for all those notes, they helped alot!

    • @gettinyukky
      @gettinyukky Рік тому

      when was this nerfed? i just noticed this putting the build together, wtf.

    • @mainedorio4363
      @mainedorio4363 Рік тому

      ​@@gettinyukkylmao at least read the patch notes nub

    • @willemdafoe171
      @willemdafoe171 Рік тому

      @@gettinyukky 3.21 pre-patch, a decent while ago.

    • @astelan3393
      @astelan3393 Рік тому

      Would you be able to share your 3.22 version of palsterons build?

  • @itspliskyn
    @itspliskyn Рік тому +5

    I wanted to do a build that used fireball but was told that dozens of people have theory crafted things and I can't come up with anything new.
    Nice to see this build.

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому

      This version is literally different than all of them, nobody attacks with Void batteries, also nobody uses Militnt faith timeless jewel in this build.

  • @coloradodirtbike5930
    @coloradodirtbike5930 10 місяців тому

    Thats a cool looking build

  • @phantomTheSavior
    @phantomTheSavior Рік тому +2

    ive just looked into the pob real quick and the first thing ive noticed is that you are not using any tattoo on 30 int node ( which cost 2 points to get to ) ive taken out crit multi and a small life node to get to it , you can have another maximum power charge with it and it adds up the full dps to go from 107 M to 118 M which i think is a nice increased since were buildind around those . Nice build overall ;)
    Cheers !

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому +2

      Yea thanks for the advice, I have learnt about the +1 power charge tattoo after I made this video xD

  • @Prowlyi
    @Prowlyi Рік тому +1

    Legit the most what the fuck thing I've seen, I love it

  • @itsyaboypepega9517
    @itsyaboypepega9517 Рік тому +2

    The dissolution of the flesh tech, do I need to activate herald of thunder BEFORE I open a map and then turn it off when I am inside the map for it to meet the conditions?

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому +2

      Either before or after you enter the map, doesn't matter.

  • @DenisFox-
    @DenisFox- Рік тому +5

    Phoenix the legend 👑

  • @diamondsword7972
    @diamondsword7972 Рік тому +1

    would this work for ice spear with herald of ice or would the lack of AoE not be worth the extra damage?

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому

      It works just fine thanks to chain, also single target is better.

  • @nexxos3498
    @nexxos3498 Рік тому +2

    How would u build it without mageblood? How to solve the mana issues?

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому

      You will have to take mana nodes and 5% reduced mana cost of skills on every jewel.

  • @DatLe-pz5pz
    @DatLe-pz5pz Рік тому +1

    How can we upgrade this build with tattoo?

  • @chrisclark-vv4yn
    @chrisclark-vv4yn Рік тому

    what level does this build need to get going and started? is one that can be played fom a lower level or needs like level 90 to function

  • @hamstibambsti1108
    @hamstibambsti1108 Рік тому +1

    whats the point of elevated onslaught if you have a permanent boosted silver flask

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому

      The second line it comes with it (10% increased attack, cast and movement speed while you have onslaught)

  • @jordanwhite4963
    @jordanwhite4963 Рік тому +2

    What would be a price for this build without mageblood?

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому

      It would drop to mid range investment, you still have to get the rings and boot to play the build.

    • @jordanwhite4963
      @jordanwhite4963 Рік тому

      30div would be possible?@@PhoenixLive_YT

    • @aetherlumine839
      @aetherlumine839 Рік тому

      ​@@jordanwhite4963it's a joke? Just nimis prices 16+ divs, even with craft won't be enough 30 div without that ring

    • @aetherlumine839
      @aetherlumine839 Рік тому

      ​@@jordanwhite4963200+ 😢 and mageblood confirmed

  • @numberj5737
    @numberj5737 Рік тому

    is there any budget version w/o mageblood?

  • @DinoFluffyBoi
    @DinoFluffyBoi Рік тому +1

    How are you sustaining mana without mana leech?

  • @xeholy4949
    @xeholy4949 Рік тому

    How much was the budget for this build?

  • @DodamIh
    @DodamIh Рік тому +1

    Hi - how does the single target damage work on this build? Am I thinking correctly that against bosses without any other enemies, only one of the Power Siphons will hit (twice due to Nimis), and of all the fireballs that the one hit procs CoC, only one of the fireballs will hit for damage (again twice due to Nimis), and won't explode if I have chain or pierce?

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому

      Nimis overrides the "one projectile per attack" rule allowing you to shotgun at close range, this is mentioned in one of the videos posted by GGG with creeping frost.

    • @DodamIh
      @DodamIh Рік тому

      @@PhoenixLive_YT So I did watch the creeping frost video, but if my understanding is correct, the way that the shotgun works is that multiple explosions from creeping frost can hit the same enemy multiple times, not that the projectiles could. (Similar to how KB and LA could "shotgun" through the explosion, but not against a single boss with nothing around it.) This works since creeping frost explodes where you target, but for fireball, it will only explode at the end of the projectile's life, after all the pierce, chain, and fork is done. What this means is that if you have any pierce, fork, or chain, fireball will NOT explode on the boss on either the outbound or the return leg - you can see this in your video as well since none of the fireballs are exploding. (This was a nerf to Nimis in 3.21 - there is a post where MarkGGG explains this, but UA-cam won't let me post the link.) If you unallocate the pierce nodes and the chain ascendancy node, the fireballs will start exploding, but even then I think all except one will pass straight through the boss.
      Uber Maven has around 51M HP (46M if you discount culling), and the fireballs (according to the linked PoB) has about 700K damage each vs uber pinnacles - if all of them were shotgunning with 9 projectiles each and hitting twice, Maven would be dead in 4 casts (2 seconds at most, even without proc from return). I think what's happening is that the actual DPS is closer to 700K (single fireball per crit proc) x 2 (2 hits of fireball due to Nimis) x 4 (2 power siphons per second, 2 procs each due to Nimis) = 5.6M, which is why it took 8 seconds to kill Uber Maven at 6:31.
      (I did try the build, and the clear was indeed amazing.)

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому

      @DodamIh this doesn’t just apply to projectiles that explode, returning projectiles count as separate from the ones originally fired, add wall chain on top of that and you get multiple projectiles to hit the boss on their return “standing on top means that they all will hit”

  • @knaz7468
    @knaz7468 Рік тому +2

    Could this be done budget without Nimi's to start? And Mageblood isn't needed if just map clearing with auto flasks? Looks like fun for sure.

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому +2

      Mageblood was not even part of the build originally, it was added as a Quality of Life upgrade, mostly to solve our mana problem (which can be solved in other ways), so yes overall this can be made cheaper, remove nimis for more concentrated damage at the cost of clearing.

    • @phillipvalente2207
      @phillipvalente2207 Рік тому +2

      which kind of belt would you use instead of mageblood? could you give an example?@@PhoenixLive_YT

  • @aukaii7530
    @aukaii7530 Рік тому

    Hi Phoenix :) It can be done without Precurso's Emblem power charge version?

  • @Woadyn
    @Woadyn Рік тому

    How many divs?

  • @tadeuszdombrowski5159
    @tadeuszdombrowski5159 Рік тому

    Hi i have a question about build i read a lot of text about nerfed explode from fireball now its alredy fixed ? I will build that ones but not sure

  • @astelan3393
    @astelan3393 Рік тому +1

    What are the maximum number of procs you can get in single target? it looks like the attack rate is 4.15/s each cast can hit twice? so 8 fireball procs per second on 1 target?

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому

      you are forgetting when some projectiles hit a wall and chain back to hit the boss again adding 30% hit rate.

  • @inigocenozhuarte6362
    @inigocenozhuarte6362 Рік тому +1

    Would like teo play the build. How does it perform vs Pinacle bosses? Can you kill ubers?

  • @shuriken5638
    @shuriken5638 Рік тому +1

    Are there any MTX involved in the explosions ? Looking sick :D

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому +1

      Despair Herald effect equipped to Herald of Ash :)

  • @remusio
    @remusio Рік тому

    how about the tattoos?

  • @TheRosbak
    @TheRosbak Рік тому +2

    I wanna Play this, but in a different version. I want to stay around 25-35 mil dps, and instead build it insanely tanky. Do you have any advice to make this immortal or very tanky?

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому +1

      Yes, use a defensive chest like "Doppelganger" and just take more life nodes instead of damage.

  • @Melancraze
    @Melancraze Рік тому

    Any ideashowto do this build without MB? Would charge on crit flask with 25% less mana cost work?

    • @Melancraze
      @Melancraze Рік тому

      Read comments, that's a bad idea unless we replace inspiration with something

  • @jagojuice9133
    @jagojuice9133 Рік тому +1

    i need a lvling build for this/cheap to start i would love to do this and am new to the game i have 10chaos rn lol sooo rly far off..

  • @Narulogo
    @Narulogo Рік тому +1

    wont you get one shot from anything that deals chaos damage or giant amounts of phys damage? because of the almost 0 armor and -60% chaos res

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому +2

      I never said that this build isn't supposed to die, it's made for SC, don't confuse me with Zizran :D

  • @DaanClear
    @DaanClear Рік тому

    Would it be possible to make a budget build

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому +2

      I did make many budget builds on this channel, my Arc build cost like 20 Divines, go follow it.

  • @amirridzuan1633
    @amirridzuan1633 Рік тому

    can this work on marauder? lol

  • @uwuxie8800
    @uwuxie8800 Рік тому +1

    why not kb, tell me pls

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому +2

      Power Siphon provide Culling Strike and helps with generating power charges.

    • @uwuxie8800
      @uwuxie8800 Рік тому

      @@PhoenixLive_YT ahhh right ty

  • @skull7832
    @skull7832 Рік тому

    what other belt could i use instead of mageblood?

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому

      Any stygian vise with good basic stats.

    • @skull7832
      @skull7832 Рік тому

      @@PhoenixLive_YT how about amulet? There are non on playstation servers yet

  • @itsyaboypepega9517
    @itsyaboypepega9517 Рік тому

    Wouldn't it be better to put divergent inspiration in a green socket in diallas? for like 20% reduced mana cost of skills?

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому +1

      No that's a really bad idea, it will push our mana cost reduction to beyond 100% preventing us from generating inspiration charges altogether making us lose 30% of our damage

  • @alexandrewalch6798
    @alexandrewalch6798 Рік тому

    how do u get so many fireball levels ?

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому +1

      Check our chest (I explained how it works in the video.)

  • @megatoys7
    @megatoys7 Рік тому

    Can this do wave 30 simulacrum

  • @zina0086
    @zina0086 Рік тому

    How its 100% deli or simulacrum with it?

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому

      It hs the damage, you will have to dodge a lot tho :p

  • @WassUp28041995
    @WassUp28041995 Рік тому

    Can you make a tanky budget version? 🤞🤞

  • @alyssonbonato8075
    @alyssonbonato8075 Рік тому

    How many divines?

  • @bobbymurphy3712
    @bobbymurphy3712 Рік тому

    why not use kb?

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому

      Power Siphon has built in power charge generation mechanic and free Culling Strike.

  • @Louis-f1p1i
    @Louis-f1p1i Рік тому

    I use this build but i cant get mana?

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому

      We have 95~ mana cost reduction from Mageblood flask and inspiration

  • @Mrsobotkaa
    @Mrsobotkaa Рік тому

    Can i do this build with 50-60 div?

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому

      It's tricky without mageblood, I didn't think of a way to fix our mana cost without it.

    • @G0DJ1R4
      @G0DJ1R4 Рік тому

      @@PhoenixLive_YT how about lifetap instead of inspiration?

    • @skull7832
      @skull7832 Рік тому +1

      @@G0DJ1R4 your hp would get nuked lol

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому

      Yep xd

  • @trythis2006
    @trythis2006 Рік тому +3

    how much mirror does it cost?
    yes

  • @victordethuin4699
    @victordethuin4699 Рік тому

    i realy tryed but something get wrong,

  • @MrMaxwelHouse
    @MrMaxwelHouse Рік тому +2

    Just add Mageblood 5Head EZ.

  • @LowKiiMusiK
    @LowKiiMusiK Рік тому

    why am i killing myself ???? i dont get it

    • @LowKiiMusiK
      @LowKiiMusiK Рік тому

      also when i fight a boss i do 0 damage

  • @Pkwen23
    @Pkwen23 Рік тому

    next time start with you need mageblood so i dont watch it midway and quit lol

    • @PhoenixLive_YT
      @PhoenixLive_YT  Рік тому

      I mean you can literally tell that I am using mageblood at any stage of the video by looking at my flasks LOL

  • @Gcfhyuh7
    @Gcfhyuh7 Рік тому +1

    Hi