I realized that laughing it off means "laugh away the pain" Undyne laughs when she's fading away, Toriel laughs when you kill her and by so monster it says "You laugh so hard tears roll down your face"
and also Mettaton, when he casts you into the 'dungeon' with the multi-colored tile maze. He says "I'm so filled with grief I can't stop laughing" I'm beginning to think that laughter is a common coping mechanism in the underground. Undyne laughs as she dies, Toriel laughs as she realizes who she should have protected before her death, Mettaton references this coping mechanism like it's the default response, and sans hides his depression through humor. The entire underground tries to smile and laugh, in spite of their pain and tragedy, because, in the words of one of the minor characters... "We can't do anything, so why be morose about it?"
I have a sister called Cara. SwankyBox: The demon that comes when people call it's name. *At that exact moment, Cara comes into my room.* Cara: Hey, Aoife, do you have any spare card? Me: *SCREAMS*
When Chara calls themslef “the demon who comes when people call it’s name” she used the term demon, and not devil, referring to a loyal servant of the devil, and on genocide, the devil, is the player
@Peculiar Young Lady Chara kills like 3 people while you have a 100 killstreak,and even if you try to argue "Asgore was their dad!" The player kills Toriel,who was essentially their mother.
“Similar to the cutscene you see when you first start playing...” That _is_ Chara, because Frisk landed on flowers, which don’t show in the cutscene...
The only thing that confuses me is, in genocide route, asriel immediately tells you that you are Chara, AND you have a STOLEN soul. BUT when you get to the ending, Chara 'asks' you for your soul to bring back the world. In the game it is said that a human cannot absorb a human soul. So Chara cannot be a human.
+lightsen - It sort of goes along the lines of being a demon as well, since a soul can be sold to a demon or devil (in a figure of speech sense). And since humans can't absorb other human souls like you said, it leaves a lot to be interpreted about why a human would want to acquire another human's soul then. Unless Chara's intentions were not to absorb it, but more so to prove dominance over it.
+victini pokeparkroad - The dialogue about Chara being a demon is the second genocide route's ending. I included bits and pieces of it in the video and make note of it at 5:09. As for the repeatedly destroying the world part, while I didn't feature the dialogue in the video visually, I sort of believed it to be snowballed in with the part about Chara being bored with the world. In my eyes, their analysis of your behavior was that of confusion because they don't see the point in repeating what has been done. They find it entertaining regardless though, so they might as well stick around for the ride for the next world. However, I suppose that would only hold true if your interpretation of the purpose behind Chara's behavior aligns with that.
... What I have as a theory is kinda crazy. So Chara, the first fallen human, raised with Asriel under the care of Asgore and Toriel Dreemurr was a normal child. Possibly abused or orphaned on the surface, they were left with a deep 'hatred' for humanity which is really just depression. Finding a family, Chara forgets their depression until a misread recipie causes them to send Asgore into a near-death sickness. This reincarnates Chara's depression at a higher level, believing it is their fault, they do what most people do when they want to hide sadness. Smile and laugh so the ones they love stay happy. ~Time Skip~ Asriel finds the camera and begins asking Chara about their past. Chara refuses to answer, but instead does a 'creepy face' that scares Asriel. This may be Chara's depression showing through, and Asriel being an oblivious monster, takes the fake yet creepy smile as a scary face. Then Chara remembers about Asgore's situation with buttercups when Asriel mentions them being able to laugh it off and requests the camera to be turned off so their parents could not listen in on the conversation. ~Time Skip~ A few months later, Chara has torn up their internal organs with the poisonous buttercup. Eating the flower puts them into a comatose state. This had been the hidden conversation Asriel and Chara had. Chara was to poison themselves, die, and let Asriel take their soul to get six more and break the barrier. Sadly, in the state of mind they are in, they talk about golden flowers of their village, and Asriel takes that as a tell that Chara wants to see them. After crossing the barrier with Chara's soulless corpse, humans see and attack the young monster believing he murdered the human child. This fuels Chara's rage towards humanity. ~Fallen Down~ More children fall down. Not a single one had the determination Chara had. Then, Frisk falls. Young little determined Frisk. Their determination is strong enough to awaken Chara. Chara then proceeds to help Frisk through the underground. When they begin to kill, Chara grows confused, and ends up helping. Sadly, this twists Chara's mind, and after killing Flowey, they remind Frisk just who was helping them. Chara explains that they are the feeling players get. That they are the summoned demon, but truly, they don't believe this. They are a confused kid who sat through limbo after watching their brother be mercilessly murdered by humans. Chara wants to erase the world, so the player learns a lesson. They want to teach the player that every action has a consequence.
heres why, its not really my theory but it sums up my points. You did not "teach them" that killing is okay. In fact, Chara helps you every way they can in the genocide route. They give you the kill count, both in the stat screen and save points as early as Snowdin. They would even go as far as calling Papyrus "Forgettable" and Monster Kid "Free EXP". Also, they are not corrupted by the LV either. Some proof to this is that if you kill 36 Knight Knights in the Core (There being 40 enemies) that will bring you to LV 15, even if you don't kill anyone else in the game. This proves that Chara doesn't care about LV. The genocide ending will not occur until EVERY. SINGLE. THING. is killed. Finally bringing you to LV 19 and all monsters possible are killed in the Ruins, Snowdin, Waterfall, and Hotland. Only then, will Chara reveal themself. If Chara was really "taught" that killing is okay, then they wouldn't have required that you killed everyone. More evidence to prove that Chara wants to destroy monsterkind is that if you kill everyone in Snowdin, but spare Snowdrake everytime you pass him, the SAVE point will say "The comedian got away." and the genocide run will be aborted. Which proves that Snowdrake is a special enemy and requires to be killed, even if you got the kill count reqired. Also, in Waterfall before you get to the bridge, Chara will advise you to go back and kill everyone before continuing because of the changed battleground scene. These actions are not of someone who was "taught" that killing is okay, these actions are from someone that wanted to be The Angle of Death and kill everyone in the Underground and destroy the timeline. Just Snowdrake in itself is enough evidence to prove that Chara is out for blood- er... dust. Since Snowdrake is a random encounter, you will randomly meet him if you do not kill him. If you get the kill count you need (and therefore "teaching" Chara) but you spare Snowdrake everytime, you will abort genocide because unlike the rest of the random encounter monsters, there is only one Snowdrake, and it is required you kill it.
@@HarleyBeeLive Id get toriel, but chara does it before you kill toriel, and plus, the monsters in the ruins arent as old as toriel, and porbably havent met chara...
In my mind, Chara was a very damaged and traumatized child. They ran away from their village and sought to commit suicide upon Mount Ebbot. However being taken in by the Dreemurrs caused him to grow attached to monsters. Thus began his misguided effort to destroy both the barrier and the humans who hurt him. Later, when Frisk arrived Charas essence latches onto Frisk. Then it is the Player who decides the outcome. If the Player goes towards the Pacifist Route then Charas soul is pacified and simply laid to peace. However if the Player goes the genocide route the soul of Chara, who is still that of a traumatized child reaches a breaking point. Seeing Frisk and the Player mercilessly kill monsters and his "mother" Toriel causes the soul of Chara to become corrupt by not only the Players actions but also the accumulated LV. Chara then becomes a demon and takes advantage of the Players actions to escape the underground.
+Santos La Rose That's actually a really good theory. It ties up some (if not all) of the loose ends and doesn't make Chara 'completely evil', which I really like.
Immortal Turtle I'm thinking maybe Chara will either be 'good' like in Pacifist (in case you never actually killed ahyone and just forgot to befriend Undyne, Alphys or Papyrus) or maybe he'll regret his actions and start sparing people (in case you DID kill someone, but either on accident or because you didn't know how to get past them otherwise.)
+Immortal Turtle (Sharders) in the pacifist ending I'm not too sure. Even what happened to Frisk afterwards is foggy. It could be that Chara just doesn't exist outside of a "narrator".
Honestly, portraying Chara as the great threat in Undertale is unfair. In the Genocide route, he says that he realizes why whe came back when you start killing monsters, prompting him to gain in LV and boosting the stats. So what I'm saying is: the Darkness behind Chara? It's you. The player. You're the one who turned him into a demon. Because in the end, in the genocide route...you are the bad guy who decided "let's just kill everyone". Even Sans noticed it. Who do you think "the anomaly" was? Chara was no angel in his living...but YOU made him a demon.
it was LV that corrupted chara, the stat menu says chara not frisk. She absorbs the LV and as sans says 'the more LV you gain, the easier it is to kill. The more you get disconnected.
StrongFish91 Getting our *skulls* out of the clouds, lets talk about something different. did *sansta* claus come to town? He almost didn't because we were *Snowdin* ~Sans (I just realized you are StrongFish91 from the spaghetti post)
After you finish the Pacifist route completely, and the 6 main characters are standing in a circle you can walk all the way back to the ruins. If you go to the very first room of the game after defeating Asriel, he is standing over the flowers that you originally fell on. If you talk to him, he tells you that Chara hated humanity and fell down the mountain to kill themself. So yes, they did attempt suicide.
+MicroKube He never said anything about suicide, All he said was, "I Know why Chara Climbed the mountain, It wasn't a very happy Reason, Chara hated humanity."
It's actually the opposite, Frisk killing monster is what corrupts Chara, not Chara corrupting Frisk. Chara says "with YOUR guidance I realised the purpose of my reincarnation" which means that Frisk killing everybody made Chara think that he was reincarnated to get more power, and if you go by the Chara narrator theory you'll realise that Chara got reincarnated the moment Frisk fell on the flower bed and since they were so confused they decided to let Frisk guide them instead of controlling Frisk by themselves.
They hated humanity, yess, but not evil. Remember they killed THEMSELVES to cross the barrier , when they could have killed any other monster in the underground. Chara´s hatred wanted to kill humans but Asriel resisted. If he hadnt resisted Chara would have killed six people and broken the barrier setting the undergroung free.
What triggered Chara’s corruption? Were they always this way due to their upbringing, or did something occur overtime that made them become what they are? What do you think?
+SwankyBox It is mostly us the player, which twisted Chara into a disillusioned killer, because we gave them the only answer to everything, Power. It is as it were the one and only answer to everything. If we go the full pacifist without ever completing Genocide, Chara won't be twisted. As they say, children are the most cruel, when they do not know what they do.
I like how you dident just state Chara was evil...you kept it up to debate...I disagreed with a few things here...but there was some things I agreed on...either way I liked the video
I honestly think that Chara ISN'T the "evil character". Now, now, I have evidence. Actually ALOT of evidence... *You are the influence to Chara's "evil".* Yes, you, the player. After all, WE are the people who are pressing that "fight" button. We are the ones telling her, pushing her to grab that knife. At the end of the game, Chara states (Not exact same words cause I can't remember the exact words...) 'Oh? You want to go back? After all you've done? Since were you the one in control?'. What Chara said is true but we did have the power of influence. After you play the Genocide route again, you see Chara again. She begs you to do the special "Pacifist route". Sure, after you do what Chara wants, at the end, Chara scribbles over all the characters on the picture, she is actually serving justice. After doing the Genocide route 2 times (or more), she is giving you want you deserved. You killed everyone's families, friends, monsters, you deserved something at least. Most players feel that oh no what has Chara done? No, what have YOU done? This world didn't do anything to you. Actually, it saved you from dying (Starvation and fall) So, why do you have to kill every single creature you see? Note for all paths (Genocide, Pacifist, Neutral). It doesn't matter if it's red text or not, she's always narrator. Chara even knows how the player is! She knows that we think we are above consequences. Chara's story is still a bit clouded. It starts off by Chara trying to kill herself? Again, I'm not sure. She lands on flowers and Asriel finds her. She asks for the fallen human's name and she joins Asriel's family. Fast forwards and Chara and Asriel backs Asgore a pie. They put buttercups as one if the ingredients, Thus posioning him. They children after all! And Asriel was helping Chara so why isn't he one of the "evil characters"?. After that discovery, Chara realized that if she died, the border could be broken. She was a human after all. So, she posioned herself so Asriel could absorb the 6 now 7 humans souls, thus be able to break the border. Well, that was their plan. Asriel made it up to the surface, Chara still with her and advising her, Asriel walked towards a small village. The humans, seeing this monster with a dead child in it's hands, assumed that the monster had killed the child. So, they drove him out. Chara told Asriel to fight back because she wanted to show Asriel how cruel humans really are, thus driving her to falling down the mountain (I theorize). But Asriel gave Mercy. But the humans did not. They drove them down, back into the monster world. So, they placed Chara's body down below the golden patch of flowers where they had met her. When Frisk fell down, her/his determination was so that Chara was brought back, thus making herself useful by giving tips and building the child and acting as the narrator. Anyways, if you want more evidence I got more. Just tell me if you want to see it. I guess I should wrap this up. So those were some of my reasons and explanations to why Chara is not "Evil". So yeah. Debate all ya want but I'm sticking to my theory. Sorry this was so long... For more evidence search: Judgement boy who is the true villian of undertale? And here's part 2: Judgement boy Chara's orgins. Enjoy both vids! :D
None of that is really evidence. You string together facts from the game, then jump to conclusions. But this is what all the Chara fans do. This is what we know. Chara hated humankind. All of them, and this may well include mom and dad. Even after poisoning Asgore with buttercups, which is a really nasty affliction by the way, what did she learn? Not "hey, don't mess with these flowers like that." No, "they're deadly." What does she do even after spending a happy life with the Dreemurrs and particularly her new step-brother Asriel? Plots her suicide. When she dies and merges with Asriel, what does she do? Tries to gain control so she can kill all the humans. Asriel resists and stops her, even as he's being killed. Yes, we are the ultimate villain of Undertale, should we decide to go on a killing spree. The game won't play itself. But Chara is not a nice, normal girl in any way, shape or form. And this is the real evidence.
True, you do decide Pasicfist (Sorry I don't know how to spell it) Or Genocide. Chara Became a "Demon" due to watch you doing Genocide. She'd go back in time (If that is possible) and terrorize people untill she was considered one. if she did it in time, she'd be able to come back and tell you that
Its_Elkku yeah there is lots of proof 1st she didn't slip she jumped to commit suicide 2nd she made a pie with toriel and then she put poison in the pie making her sick
Is Chara really evil? Whe Chara fell she was probably fell because she wanted to commit suicide, she was being bullied . She fell and got found by Asriel. He took her Chara to the Dreemurs and was loved. She baked a pie using buttercups and poisoned Asgore. She felt bad and "laughed it off". Most characters do this when they are sad or scared. She poisoned herself to let Asriel absorb her soul. She wanted to see the buttercup flowers in the overworld. He got there and was accused of killing Chara. He went back to the underground and died where you first start out in the game. Where Chara died buttercup flowers grew there. When frisk fell Chara was awokken by Frisks determination and was now a ghost following Frisk on her adventure. She saw everyone she loved. She gave you descriptions of all the characters when you were in battle. But if you choose the genocide route she be silent for most of the battles like Sans, Undyne, and mom and dad. Chara was never a murderer, the only person she killed was herself. Frisk was the one making the decision to kill everybody while Chara is just hopelessly watching while all off her friends and family were being killed right before her. She was around 10 most likely and didn't know how to respond to all of that confusion.
One question , if Chara really wanted to see the golden flowers on the overworld , why did Chara committed suicide trying to fell down Mt. Ebott , even when she knows that everyone that fell down , will die . Or maybe it was an excuse to go to the surface and use his real plan .
On top of that, they even state themselves that they don't like the players actions. When you recreate the world and do another genocide run, they state: "You're wracked with a perverted sentimality." Key word is "perverted". That means they don't like your actions and choices. Also, THEY are the one punishing you with doing that run. They jumpscare you and then corrupt your game so you will never get a happy ending. In other words, they aren't the bad guy. Chara was the good guy all along, you just have to look deep enough.
I don't think people who get bullied will want to destroy entire humanity. They may get sad, depressed and may get suicidal but they don't feel like they need to destroy humanity. That's totally messed up. And if she did hate humans, she showed no sadness for all the monsters that were killed. Also Chara doesn't come to life in Pacifist run because only true evil can wake her up suggesting she's evil. And the eyes are very much creepy. This is what I think tho.
My theory on Chara's relation to Frisk *Pacifist Run= Truly Frisk. this is Frisk acting as their truest self. with no influence from Chara. a hint to this (if I remember correctly) is that your name is only revealed and you are only called 'Frisk' in the pacifist run. I really feel this was a hint left by toby along with "despite everything, it is still you" *Any Neutral Run= Frisk is being 'influenced' my Chara. almost like having a ghost or demon whispering in your ear, or taking temporary being taken over. like, maybe Chara's soul is still human at this point so they are unable to steal Frisk's soul (more about soul steal below) *Merciless/Genocide Run- Total Chara possession. As stated by Flowey in the beginning of the genocide run "you're Chara right?" and "i have a plan to become more powerful, even more powerful than you and your STOLEN SOUL" this means that Chara has stolen Frisk's soul. but I believe this also means that Chara is also no longer a human but rather a demon (like this video stated) because accorded to Alphys's Journal entries, humans can not steal other human soul. Same with monster being unable to steal other monster souls. That is why Flowey could steal both human AND monster souls at the end of the pacifist run, because he was neither monster nor human...he was a demon...flower...thing...lol. anyway, it's also hinted that Chara is not a human or monster based off of how Sans and Asgore address them. Sans stated "it would make my brother really happy if you were a human, so I would really appreciate if you could keep PRETENDING TO BE ONE" and Asgore says "i'm sorry but what kind of monster are you? sorry but I can not tell." this pretty clearly implying that they are neither human nor monster. now again, this is only MY THEORY so I could be wrong but I do think I have some pretty solid evidence to support it. but what do you guys think?
thank you :) i thought so too lol and idk about you guys, but i imagine Frisk as an extremely kind hearted, silly and oddly flirtatious child lol like i said before, i feel like this why Toby Fox only uses Frisk's name in the Pacifist ending, but this is the only ending that is the true Frisk, where you dance, laugh, smile and flirt your way to victory lol the other endings are Chara's influence or Chara themselves. which again is why your name is never really used in the neutral run and why you are called Chara in the Genocide run. sorry, i am repeating myself aren't i? lol XD i do that sometimes just to make sure i explained myself properly.
So I'm guessing that when you ditch a genocide run, Frisk take back control from Chara? Interesting thought. Another thing: it possible to do a genocide run in hard mode. AKA when you name your character Frisk to trigger it. If Toby ever finishes Hard Mode, we may get some more story dwelling on that.
coments for this video- 8% Chara is EVIL!! I knew it! 1% Papyrus's skull XD 1% Chara didn't laugh at Asgore! 90% CHARA ISN'T EVIL I UNSUBSCRIBE FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE!!!!
Alfa Tayfa chara was most likely corrupted by the human,also chara doesn’t hate anyone as she doesn’t have a soul,she even stated herself as a demon,and a demon is someone that do the devil bidding meaning that chara is doing your dirty job
Chara is not the true villain, we are: chara was forced to follow the player (aka frisk) and is 'good' when we do a pasafist ending, but if WE do a genocide ending then chara was forced to be 'bad' and such. so WE are given the. hope to be good or bad, WE choose, IT IS NOT CHARA!!!!!!! don't blame chara for our choosing or wrongdoings to murder
I think Chara is kind of an awful mix between good and bad. Like, what they do is with good intent, but they carry it out through evil manners Getting revenge on the Humans to save the Monsters and destroy the barrier = Good intent Manipulating their best friend by purposefully poisoning themself to make a dying wish = Evilly carried out
@@ohmeohmicah They were a bad kid but they had good intentions. As you gain LOVE, so does Chara. Chara is the one who becomes more and more distanced, like sans described
ı think chara is soulless just like flowey he couldnt feel love and just like flowey if you spare all mosnters he will give you your good ending but if you kill them all he will become corrupted
Well the question about Chara falling into the Underground--Unlikely that it was out of suicidal intent. Chara canonically trips over a branch into the Underground. Upon their landing, they also call out for help, likely out of desperation. If they truly wanted to die, they probably would've just stopped trying and accepted their fate. Another thing is that Asgore himself compares Frisk to Chara, saying they have the same "look of hope" in their eyes.
dazai-san I think that Chara climbed the mountain because of the legend, but they didn't actually know that the hole was supposed to be the reason why people should disappear, and that's why they tripped. Don't forget that Asriel tells us the reason why Chara _climbed_ the mountain, not the reason why they fell, so Chara probably climbed the mountain because they thought they will be dead soon because of the legend, but they didn't know about the hole.
Salvo il Commentatore It's unlikely that Chara came to Mount Ebott to die, though. They may have thought coming to Mount Ebott would allow them an escape from humanity, but likely didn't expect to die.
dazai-san "So, I decided to _follow in your footsteps_. I wuold _erase myself from existence_." -Flowey, talking to Chara, near the end of the Genocide run.
Salvo il Commentatore That is completely up to interpretation. Flowey could've meant that he tried to kill himself because _Chara_ was dead, or like you seem to imply, Chara killed themself. I'm leaning towards the former, especially considering my previous points about how Chara isn't suicidal.
dazai-san Well, about Chara calling for help, it makes sense, probably Chara thought that it will be a quick death, but then they survived the fall, and we know that falling in Mt. Ebott, without golden flowers that broke the fall, _hurts_. Someone has even found a narration that proves that Chara was masochist (aminoapps.com/page/undertale/7670312/chara-facts-part-6), but it's only for those who believe in the Narra-Chara theory.
I think Chara is a personiphication of Player's decisions in game. Players often are agressive and cruel in game worlds. If Player is a good person and don't wannna hurt game characters, then Chara is not a demon. Is only a sad child from cruel world. Frisk is one os reincarnation of Chara, because Players play in more than one game.
Happiest of holidays! I bring the best gift of all this season… Sleep paralysis and corruption! Mwhahaha! In all seriousness, I hope you all have a great holiday season and I want to thank you for your continued support. Stay swanky my friends!
Well about sleep paralysis, i always, ALWAYS had sleep paralysis when i woke up from a bad dream. I broke through the sleep paralysis thou (struggle and somehow broke through and made me can move) for the most time
Hey swanky merry Christmas also I have a Theory maybe chara is just a sick representation of Toby foxs dark mind and frisk ( pacifist) is his spare kind mind hmm also ( theory about the toy knife plz I wonder was it a weapon in general or.... A human who killed before charas apperince in Undertale maybe a cold hearted human hunter anyways I think it's silly right?
I think chara is becoming a demon because he wants the humanities to be dead(include monsters from underground)and the character that you are play,could be chars.
Chara called themself a Stat spirit basically, she’s not a demon, but a stat embodiment, they would not notice as they were alive, due to they were alive.
I think what is left of chara's soul floods into frisk when they fall. Chara's body is buried under these flowers. If frisk is an evil child, then chara returns as that, the levels and numbers dictate who chara grows into. In pacifist their soul doesn't gain power, but still conscience. It calls for Asriel, your best friend. but they cannot do anything, the only route with asriel coming back is where chara has no control. maybe that's why they want frisk's soul? to do pacifist and end things right. the chara flash thing at the end of the game was most likely them waking up, and I theorize going to find asriel.
You do realize after Chara 'wakes up' she goes out to kill all the monsters in the village. If you choose to go other places after a geno run, it shows a picture of all your friends and you in the middle, then you turn into Chara and all your friend's faces have red x's on them. Chara has killed them.
Note that Chara is very similar to Chakra. The Google definition is "each of the centers of spiritual power in the human body, usually considered to be seven in number." Coincidence? The fact that spiritual power in the human body is basically the soul or the trait each fallen human soul had. And that there were 7 human souls originally.
+Masahiro Sakurai™ (Tony) I did a little more research on this. The 7 chakra 'centres' are Spirituality (purple), Intuition ( Dark Blue) , Communication (Light Blue), Love (Green) , Power (Yellow), Sexuality (Orange) and Survival (Red). Coincidentally, these are also the representative colours of all the 7 fallen human's souls. Toby Fox did change the meanings (Bravery Justice Integrity Kindness Perseverence and Patience) to suit the game. The mystery surrounding Chara can probably be solved if we delve deeper into what this all means.
From my understanding, Chara('s spirit?) isn't malevolent unless the player makes them so. In their words, "I was so confused. Our plan had failed, hadn't it? Why was I brought back to life? ...You. With your guidance. I realized the purpose of my reincarnation. Power." With your guidance. Your guidance being what you, the player, do during your run. By using your power to murder everyone in a genocide run, you... corrupt Chara into thinking that was why they were brought back in the first place. They begin to seek power, hence why they begin possessing Frisk. Which would explain why they DON'T try anything funny during a pacifist/neutral run. They have no desire to seek power because you haven't exposed them to that level of nefariousness. If anything, during a true pacifist run, you show them how to love and BE loved, giving them somewhat of a happy ending. I mean, I'm not saying Chara wasn't a messed up kid. They were most definitely One Messed Up Kid. But they weren't evil, and they weren't always a demon spawn. Not until you make them into one with your gross murder-y actions.
Interesting comment, I'd like to put in my input if you don't mind. I couldn't find any evidence to support Chara ever WAS brought back to life in True pacifist. What revives them is the murdering of countless innocent monsters, the gaining of LOVE. If Frisk never gains any LOVE, it's safe to assume Chara never even awakens from within Frisk. If they were present, you'd think they would have stirred inside Frisk, at least when seeing Asriel again, but that never happens. I'd say Chara in genocide, was asking why they were allowed to come back after their previous plan was a complete failure, why they're still alive after committing suicide for their plan. There only other thing I have to add is, if Chara cared about their family or to be more specific, Asriel, even a little bit, I think Asriel, as nice as he is, would have said "but they still cared about us at heart." or something to that effect. But no, all he says is "Chara wasn't the greatest person." And that's more or less Asriel saying Chara was a bad person, but sugarcoating it, like he seems to often do,
+Sasori (Grima) (my apologies for how long this got, oh lord) It's the player's + Frisk's presence that brings Chara back to consciousness, and it's their evil acts that completely resurrect Chara into... whatever they are at the end of the genocide run. Not a monster, not a human, but a demon. And there IS evidence of Chara's presence during a pacifist run. You know that dream about Asriel Frisk has after Undyne knocks them into the garbage dump? Yeah, that's one of Chara's memories. Every time you hear Asgore tell you not to give up after you die? Chara. Also, there could be evidence of Chara's presence during Asriel's battle. (and this is purely speculation, ofc, but,) After saving the souls of all your friends, (all of which were referred to with their own gender-specific pronouns, might I add,) you have to save one more soul."You reach out and call THEIR name." It's easy to assume THEY are Asriel, and it's HIS soul you're saving, but Chara's actually one of the characters in-game only ever referred to with they/them pronouns. Reaching out and saving Chara triggers those memories of Asriel finding Chara, befriending them, growing to love them like a sibling. And THAT memory is what brings back Asriel's empathy and allows you to defeat him. And in regards to Asriel saying Chara's a bad person: At the end of the game, there's another character that gets called a bad person for despising humanity and generally being mean as heck. Undyne. Monster Kid says that she's not as cool as they thought, she's mean, etc, but no one believes Undyne is evil and irredeemable. In fact, there are tons of parallels between Undyne and Chara, but I won't go into that right here omg. Basically what I'm getting at is that if we had gotten to know Chara to the extent we did Undyne, we would probably be more sympathetic toward them. Based on what we know about Chara's life with the Dreemurrs, it's safe to assume Chara was actually rather FOND of them, and Asriel in particular. They wore around a friendship locket, most likely from Asriel, and even in the genocide run, they say that it's right where it belongs when you equip it. Chara drew pictures for their parents which Asgore kept up on the wall of his room, "For King Dad!"Also, in one ending, Asgore says himself that the hope he sees in Frisk's eyes is reminiscent of Chara';s... not exactly something you'd hear about a kid that is completely evil. But most importantly, they never, ever intentionally hurt any of the Dreemurrs. Asgore's buttercup poisoning was unintentional, a child's mistake. If they had wanted to hurt the goat fam, they absolutely could have, being a human and all. If Chara was cruel enough, they could have poisoned Asgore for good, or stabbed Toriel with that Real Knife of theirs, taken a soul, and crossed the barrier to punish humanity themselves. But they didn't. Instead, they poisoned themselves and died slowly and painfully. (I suggest you look up the symptoms of buttercup poisoning.... they're not very fun) They trusted Asriel with their soul, not knowing that they would have any power once a part of him. And I'm willing to bet they NEVER meant for Asriel to get hurt, let alone die.
Sad Goat (Well I'll have a long response myself, sorry, lol) All of those memories/flashback that Frisk experiences while unconscious/dead?. Yeah, I know, those were what led people to believe that Chara's spirit was inside Frisk in the first place. But there is still NEVER any direct intervention, positive or negative. I'm sure the "they" in saving Someone Else was to temporarily hide the fact it was Asriel, especially since it becomes his name afterwards. And I wouldn't say it's exactly right to compare Monster Kid, who is legitimately still a kid, to Asriel, who at that point is a LOT older than he looks, despite still being a child at heart, and actually was close with Chara, unlike Monster Kid who doesn't seem to know Undyne very well at all personally. Regarding Flowey, the part in genocide when he tells Chara that he started killing people out of curiosity, only wanting to do so to see what would happen, he says to Chara "You of all people must know how liberating it is to act this way!" This hints at Chara's violent nature. If I were to speculate, Chara didn't kill everyone at first because they had no idea what monsters were like, I'm sure they TRIED to like them, and not hate them like humans but honestly aside from appearance and soul, they don't seem to be too different. And to be honest? I don't think poisoning Asgore was a mistake. Aside from using the advanced vocabulary, Chara was able to come up their plan. They're smarter than they look. I could even go so far as to say Chara's was testing the potency of the flower's effects on Asgore, probably making sure it will kill them when they try it themself. Chara probably also knew that as large as Asgore is, a small amount of the flower wouldn't kill him. I'm honestly surprised people didn't notice something like that in the VHS tapes. All of the tapes revealed a tidbit of information, and the thing revealed in that one? What, that the kids made a dumb mistake at one point, that doesn't seem to be super relevant to the story? I really don't think it's something as simple as that. There's no other conclusion it could be other than revealing an ulterior motive in Chara, or maybe even a bit of sadism. Considering how it was worded. Asriel said "I should have laughed it off, like you did." There it is, Asriel THINKS Chara laughed it off for the reason you described, because Chara knew he would get better. And that is exactly right, but not in the way Asriel thought, it wasn't wishful thinking. Chara DID know Asgore would get better. Why? Because they did it themself, insuring it wouldn't kill Asgore, to test it's effects in small amounts. All in all, I still think my theory is a bit more plausible, but a lot of your points did make sense. It's made me realize Chara is a lot more of a debatable character than I thought. And I'm guessing Toby meant for them to be like that.
I think that Chara started out nice, but then wanted to help break the barrier, and because of the buttercups, her mind got all screwy, and she started to go crazy. However in the genocide run, she wants to kill everyone for the same reason Flowey feels no mercy- she has no soul, so she can't feel love or compassion or mercy. That's what I think
Nah Chara doesn't want to kill anyone during the pacifist route Chara's actually following you everywhere since you fell unto her grave which is the flower buds on the first place. Chara became bad due to the influence of Frisk(or you the player) killing everything and became so confused that she just went up to the conclusion of wanting power
I agree... also If you think about it, chara isn't able to make you killed is actually quite helpful, for instance translating froggit and giving helpful suggestions during battles. Notice: asgore got sick and Chara laughed it off, this is also a way to deal with pain like how Toriel laughs when you kill her and sans with all his jokes. so she obviously felt for asgore. I think when the humans attacked them, the reason why chara tried to take over and fight back was not because she wanted to kill all the humans, it was because she didn't want asriel to die with her. also on a genocide route, realize this, it was the player that was pushing the fight button not chara and i think she got a very bad influence from someone (frisk/player) and when frisk fell into the underground it awakened chara's soul from death and she was stuck with frisk weather she wanted to be or not. she also hesitated before killing flowey and it was the player who pressed enter to kill flowey. If they had reset then and there, their files would've been fine. P.S. we can all agree chara is a girl, right?
+Fireork Nation He is the weakest enemy, since he does 1 damage per frame. And yet, his superhuman speed makes him do that 1 damage on EVERY SINGLE FRAME of his attack animation. THAT is why he appears to be extremely powerful.
WD Gaster is involved with Chara. Chara themself is neither a demon nor aware of the game. But their Determination is. From a spiritualist standpoint, a Soul is a compromise of two major parts. A spirit and a noncorporeal mass. Chara, the good character, would be the Spirit. Whom possesses Frisk at the start of the game. Introducing us to narration. The Mass would be the Determination. In this case, a black blood-like substance that is hinted at in the sprites of Flowey, Hypergod of Death Asriel, the Amalgamites, the Map pieces for True Lab, WD Gaster, and Demon Chara. Also remember that according to Alphys' notes, she extracted Determination from the Blueprints of the Soul. Where did those Blueprints come from? Take not that Chara's soul is also missing from all the souls collected. While this can be assumed it was destroyed with Asriel's body, you have to remember the six souls still existed after the destruction of Omega Flowey. So where did Chara's soul go? It can then be assumed Gaster experimented on Chara's Soul. This is most likely the experiment that killed Gaster, and ultimately lead to the creation of Undertale.
+Carum Sarene I am pretty sure that soul were destroyed with Asriel's body, because in the neautral ending, pacifist ending and true pacifist ending (not sure about the true pacifist ending) it is said that other souls disappeared. But souls need a body to relocate themselves, which they didn't have, and yet they disappeared, so they were most likely destroyed. So, if other human souls were destroyed in genocide and pacifist ending, means that Chara's soul was also destroyed with Asriel's body. Correct me if I'm wrong about something, but I'm pretty sure that this is correct
I was thinking about this. What happens if a monster absorbs a human soul but then dies? Asriel did this. I think Chara is sort of like the eye of Sauron - he doesn't have a body, but his spirit is out there, but he will have one once he gets power. He does this by entering frisk's body when frisk lands on the bed of flowers Asriel died on. Chara's soul returned to life when frisk gained power by killing everything, and then Chara took control.
+Carum Sarene I was about to say the same thing, actually. That the cause of Gaster's death, his "experiment failure" the people of Undertale were talking about was Chara. But your statements, made it clearer; about how Chara killed Gaster. I was just wondering the point of his reappearance inside the mystery door in Waterfall. Did he want to avenge himself? Warning Chara that he won't get away for everything he's done?
I believe that Chara in the genocide run, they got corrupt. When frisk started killing, they thought that you where looking for power. But it wasn't they're fault. They say "you pushed everything to its edge" Chara had no part in that. And if you do a second genocide route, they tell you to do a pacifist route! I don't think that Chara is the true villain of UNDERTALE. But one question I must ask is, does UNDERTALE really need a villain???
to HEHE I STILL AM A SUPAHSTA NOT-SO-MEMER, flowey even says that the only villain left the one that can erase everything, is you/the player and then flowery says something about let frisk live there life on the surface. so yep the player is a villain
I know this was an old video, and other facts and theories have risen over Chara’s actions and feelings. Maybe a sequel to this video covering more info? Completely up to you tho.
I would add that in the genocide run, Chara possesses Frisk. if you look into a mirror in Toriel's house after Clearing the ruins of everyone but toriel, instead of saying "It's You!" it says, "It's me, Chara."
I really don't like Chara. She's way too arrogant for someone who knows the existence of a Player. The Player, in this game at least, is God, we can kill everyone, we can save everyone, happy endings, bad endings, It's Our Choice no doubt about it! And even then! This Brat comes and says: "Howdy! I'm a Demon I was the one guiding all your actions blablabla, gimme your sou-" Y O U I D I O T . T H I S W O R L D E X I S T F O R M Y E N T E R T A I N M E N T . I C O U L D E A S I L Y E R A S E Y O U R M E M O R Y , M E S S I N G W I T H T H E G A M E F I L E S . I mean, if there's a real demon in this game, it's not Chara at all, it's US. We could replace her sprite face with a sprite ASS and she wouldn't even notice xD . . . . Fucking Jumpscares...
Here are all the awnsers that are pretty accurate! Chara was probably like 10 at the time she and Asriel baked the pie for Asgore they mistaked butter for buttercups and accidentally poisoned Asgore then Chara was laughing to laugh away the pain of sadness also the player YOU are the one who is killing everyone not Chara. Chara loved the Dreemurrs they where her family and Chara fell down Mt.Ebott to commit suicide because the humans abused her that's how Chara hates humans. Also Chara goes quiet when battling Toriel and Asgore in the genocide run. There you go all the awnsers your welcome.
+SuperOkega Whether or not he left the Underground after the game, things about his corporeal form, etc... I've thought of a lot of weird theories on him.
I'm aware as to who made his corporeal form, just maybe more on how the hell it even works. Like that if that pink goo in her lab is connected at all, or hell, even more on his 'calculator' form. :v I'm saying to get creative. I've thought of plenty of theories, like I said.
+sonicawesomeness - Funny you should bring this up... I may have started laying down the groundwork for a Mettaton video last weekend. I've been excited to do it for a while since Mettaton is such an amazing character. It should probably come out sometime mid-January. Cheers!
Someone mentioned to me that back in the past, villagers used to banish children with mental issues to mountains to die on their own. If Chara had a mental issue, it would explain why she was banished to the mountain. It would also explain why she would hate humanity. She herself was hated because she was born different. If I were her, I would hate humanity and want to watch it burn too.
I honestly don't think Chara was inheritantly evil. I think Chara was influenced by what path the player chose; genocide run obviously being very traumatic to a young child. There are some in the community who believe Chara "fell" into the underground to take their own life originally but when Asgore and Chara fall ill and Chara dies, Chara sees how cruel humanity really is and starts to harbor a hatred for them for harming their brother and best friend, Asriel. This is just what I believe though.
It's my personal belief that Chara was NOT the villain of Undertale. They weren't a villain at all. They were a child, an _impressionable_ child. When you first start a game, you, the Player, have a choice. You can choose to be a pacifist, and refuse to hurt anyone, even if it means your character will die multiple times. You can choose to protect your character even if it means killing in self-defense (Neutral). Or, you can choose to actively seek to murder every single monster you can in order to gain power (Genocide). Frisk doesn't choose this. _You_ do. Chara's spirit is there when you make that choice. Since we know human souls linger after they've died, it's a logical conclusion to make that Chara would be nearby when another human falls into the underground. While we don't have any factual evidence that a human soul can speak to anyone, we _do_ have evidence that they can affect other beings, since that's the reason why Omega Flowey is defeated in the Pacifist route. This leads me to believe that Chara actually can speak to Frisk, especially with the theory that the two of them share the same Soul Trait: Determination, which is cemented by the red heart--or soul-- in the True Lab. The only thing I can see interfering with this, is that their soul is _in the lab_ so maybe it's their...essence? That's talking to Frisk throughout their adventure? Still working out the bugs on that one, to be honest. So, Chara is there from the beginning, and I believe that they are the Narrator. Keeping this in mind, when you make the choice to do the Genocide run, they are influenced by the Player. Chara was never the villain. Far from it, actually. They may have harbored a hatred for humanity, but that's the only thing that was wrong with them. They gave their life, sacrificed themselves in a selfless, heroic act to save monsterkind, because in their young mind, they were the only one who could do it. Another human may fall into the underground, but would more likely refuse to give up their soul. Chara's reasons for falling were canonically unhappy. They were, very likely, suicidal in the first place. They had given up on life from the start, and they were just happy to have a family that loved them at all. They were the best candidate, in their mind, because they were supposed to die that day anyway, and their hatred for other humans would make it easier for them to take the souls needed to free the people they loved. Chara was a good kid. Flawed, like any other, but still had a _good heart._ You chose to kill. You believed that it was okay to do that. And in doing so, _you taught Chara, an _*_impressionable child_*_ that killing is okay._ You taught them that nothing else matters, besides power. You. You created a demon from the soul of a child. You are the villain in the Genocide route.
Theory: Charas evil soul and Asriel's good soul are both in Flowey, fused. Asriel's soul has most control over the forms that Flowey takes, but Charas evilness has infected Asriel. By using the souls to break the barrier, one soul has to be destroyed right? What if Asriel destroyed Charas part of the soul? What if flowey isn't so evil anymore? By taking the genocide route, you destroy Asriel, and release Chara. By taking the pacifist route, you destroy Chara, and turn Asriel good again.
I feel bad for chara. she fell into the underground to end their awful life, and ended up finding a family instead. they gave their life in one of the most painful methods, poisoning themselves with buttercups, just so they could save all monsters. they didn't go to the surface to kill all humans, they went to get six souls. and when asriel was being attacked, they told him to fight back. now they're the villain of the story. Chara may have some mental issues from her time on the surface, but I don't think they were ever evil. They only become evil when they are forced to. they are a servant to the player, and they assist you no matter what path you choose. even if it means having to watch you destroy their former friends and family.
>chara is mistreated on the surface, tries to attempt suicide >gets depressed again, after accidentally poisoning Asgore, but laughs because they now realize they can use it on themself >uses poison on self gets sick and dies >charas soul is angered and in pain even in death, it becomes more corrupted as time goes on.
"Why did chara hated humanity?" oh cmon! its simple. look at all these wars we humans created. we toture animals, destroy our own world. we humans are selfish.
Jaden Stewart Haha No psy·cho·path ˈsīkəˌpaTH/Submit noun a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior. synonyms: madman, madwoman, maniac, lunatic, psychotic, sociopath; More informal an unstable and aggressive person. "schoolyard psychopaths will gather around a fight to encourage the combatants"
When it said Chara laughed it off, she/he was laughing away the pain, cause toriel laughed when you killed her, sans tell jokes even tho he is depressed...
Ok........this video is off BECAUSE Chara isn't the evil character you are depending on you choose!One example of that is in the Genocide rout in the end,Chara say thank you for showing me the right choices (idk it's been awhile since I've played the game) and ask you if you want to delete this world.BUT with the Pacifist rout she is happy and more like Frisk.If you disagree watch: The Truth Behind Chara
meaning of Chara Chara is an English feminine given name that is a diminutive form of Charlotte as well as an alternate form of Cara and Kara from the Latin cārus meaning “darling, beloved, dear, loved one”. Chara is also a Spanish feminine given name as an alternate form for Sarah.
*this is a chocolate robbery* aww here have a chocolate kid *i said every chocolate* aww he’s so cute,here is another chocolate *HAND OVER THE CHOCOLATE OR DIE* O-O
Thats actually a very good point Heres mine Chara is the first human of course, and people think she is evil right? Partly Chara only hates human, but not monsters, cause she loves them. If she hated monsters, then she wouldn't like Frisk taking a pacifist run, and liked frisk taking genocide. Also, in the spooky chara appearance, she said she reincarnated who did she reincarnate as? Frisk Thats why Chara is named Chara, Toby fox named him over that as a generic name Thats why her name is pronounced 'Kara' in 'character' The character... you're playing as Chara in frisk's body also, it was never shown that frisk climbed mount ebott, Frisk didn't climb mount ebott, Chara reincarnated in the flowers but how did she get there? Wasn't chara in the dreemur's home? well, flowey said its because of... Determination Also, when undyne makes frisk fall, which memory does frisk remember? Chara's memory What happens at the end of the genocide run? Chara takes over frisk That also explains the used bandage frisk gets Also, when you name the fallen human, you ARE naming yourself, you are playing as... Chara Why else would Toby fox make you name someone that you can't meet until a specific run? Credits for my thought goes to Leviticus's video "Frisk's SECRET Identity"
A quote from a tweet by Toby that was later deleted: “Some people say "What am I supposed to name the fallen child?" Your own name.” But then in a reply he told someone that naming the fallen human after their cat was fine, soooo
In the genocide run chara says since when were you the one in control not referring to you but to frisk assuming that frisk was the only one who could have made that decision
@@CALndStuff you're in control of Frisk, Chara is the Ghost Narrator who follows you and watches in sadness as The Player Kills their Family and Friends!
+Hubaduba Tron She has 6 Sprites: 1. Chara regular smiley face 2. Chara with wide eyes 3. Chara horrifying laugh 1 4. Chara horrifying laugh 2 5. Chara horrifying laugh 3 6. Chara smiley face with red eyes (If those are considered sprites)
I feel like the first time he fell in, it was a suicide attempt. He landed, and all that stuff happened, but Chara could have realized something. He could have remembered why he threw himself into the cave to try and kill himself and realized how strong monsters were compared to humans, especially in his time since there aren't wizards and warriors anymore. Chara, realizing he can get revenge on all the people who bullied him, hatches a plan for revenge with Asriel. Chara poisons himself and lets Asriel absorb his soul to cross the barrier, from there, he would take over his body and destroy humanity for what it did to him. However, what he did not account for would be Asriel's soul. Asriel was filled with determination, making him immune to the corruption of human souls. Because of this, Chara is trapped soulless and memoryless on the surface after waking up on the flowers. Chara returns home to a new family and new name... Frisk. Frisk goes up to the mountain, looking for flowers to give their mom, and trips into the underground once again. The reason I say that Chara lost his memories is because Asriel's soul was lost inside Flowey, making him forget everyone and everything. For the genocide route, Chara seeks revenge on the monsters for being filled with determination and not letting him destroy humanity, and in doing so, grows stronger and stronger with more souls he absorbs, eventually resulting in the destruction of everyone and everything. In the pacifist playthrough, Chara embraces Frisk as his new self and seeks to forgive everyone, and is then filled with determination, making him finally whole.
I haven't watched the video yet, but I believe chara isn't evil when you think about it, the whole plan with the monster and human soul, if chara really was evil, they'd just kill asriel and take the soul for themselves. Also, I believe i make a pretty good point when i say that they watched asgore in pain, and some of you may say, "Well Asriel says "I should've just laughed off like she did", so HA!" but in undertale, laughing is shown as away of dealing with negative emotions, so Chara wasn't laughing at asgore, but she was dealing with seeing him go through it. Lastly, After chara sees this, she eats the buttercups used in the pie that made asgore ill, putting her through that would cause chara to salivate and her mouth to become inflamed. Pains in the stomach and constrictions happen right before she dies. she put herself through all of this, just so the monsters could get through the barrier. If you say that Chara is not a hero, then, well, you're probably wrong
I believe you buddy. I believe Chara was just influenced by the human who fell down and started attacking everything that they saw, and decided to just follow that human around, or they didn't have a choice. And then they were later influenced by their choice and became a bit, unstable. She even goes silent during some battles in the genocide route (and the others routes, I think).
If Chara wasn't evil (or at least not a bad person) before the genocide run then how does that explain what Asriel says about them at the end of the true pacifist run?
“The demon that comes when people call it’s name... when you figure out how” Chara? Chaira? Kara? Kaira? Shara? (I think it’s supposed to be Kaira cause character but I say Kara cause it sounds pretty lol)
yep! infact thats a common thing in monsters, when you kill one, they laugh because in the wiki it states something for monsters say "Laughter Hides The Pain".(also sans tells puns even though hes depressed)
Watching this again and comparing Chara's story with Kris' story (From DELTARUNE Chapter 1) made me think some interesting thoughts: 1. It has been speculated that the Dark World in DELTARUNE is shaped by Kris' imagination, at least in part. Perhaps the whole Underground and all the Monsters were also created by Chara's imagination, desire to have a family of people that cared about them and/or to gain superpowers to get revenge on the humans they hate. 2. If Chara's thoughts shaped the Underground in some way, maybe that helps to explain why they came to know about the stat mechanics and say that they are tied to the very process gaining them. 3. This would also help the "Narrator Chara" theory, since they would be easily able to explain anything in the Underground to Frisk, since everything inside it comes from mind.
Anyways speaking about Gaster: Some time ago me and my friend were talking about Sans and Gaster and their connections so after a bit of talk he said: "People call Sans the shadow of Gaster" Me: "Yeah, cause they have some similarities... Wait hold the damn phone, what if Sans IS Gaster... He see's through the timelines... Like Gaster, he has GASTER blasters, he is very aware of everything going on around him... What if Sans is somehow being controlled by Gaster" I mean think about it: Sans is kinda lazy and likes making puns, but then there is the teleporting/timeline seeing/making people die 100 times side of him that doesn't really seem to fit in with the rest... What if he's actually being controlled a bit just so he can stop any bad things from happening. We have not really got any clue about Gaster but surely he isn't like Flowey/Chara with the wanting to kill the FUCKING TIMELINES!!!... And in the end like Sans, he always seems to be watching you...
+Sir Goldenblade Actually I had a similar theory... but what if Papyrus was originally Gaster and Sans was his main assistant. He and a team of top scientists were working on a way to use Determination to go back to before the war and prevent it... there is a horrible accident that ends up killing the team and leaves Gaster/Papyrus in a blank memoryless state. Sans decides it would be best to retire to Snowden and uses what notes gaster/papyrus left in a attempt to fix things and fix and finish the machine. Over time it becomes aparent that he just cant do it and gives up. Ultimately deciding to make the best of things and move on. All the while giving his brother a happy carefree life filled with childlike ambition while keeping a watchful eye on him. Basically it would still jive with the whole "gaster fell into his machine and was scatted to the far reaches of the game" thing. It wasn't his physical body but his personification itself. Basically... he RESET himself instead of the world. This would also explain Sans knowledge of the game mechanics, a awareness of timeline changes, and his weaponry. It was leftover's from his time as his brothers/Gasters assistant. :D
***** Not hating on your theory or anything but usually brothers understand each other more and Sans PROBABLY (maybe not but still) would have had quite a bit of understanding about the machine... Since well Papyrus annoys enough people as it is imagine if he talked about science that way ;_;... xD but anyway still a nice theory just doesn't seem like Papyrus might be any kind of scientist to me... Then again that explains your reset personality part xD
When you play a game, any game, you are Chara. You kill, you gain, and that's the game you play. Because you as the player kill so easily because you know the people you are killing have no real feelings, no soul, you become Chara; Just someone playing around in a game they can toy around in, just like Flowey. When you are doing the pacifist/neutral route (or whatever the route you wanted to do the first time around), you are putting the soul of you, the player, into Frisk. You act the same way you would if you were Frisk them self. Frisk, however, is NOT a human. The only reason why they are assumed to be human is because you, the player, are human. The monster souls represent characters in a game. They are weak because although they have some meaning to the player, the player knows that none of the characters are real, and the game is in the end a sandbox for the player to mess around in. The thing about Undertale is the surface is reality. When a human fell down into the underground, it was your character, Frisk, the one you control, being given a physical form. Frisk has such a blank expression all the time because they do not feel anything, as they are not even human. During the Sans fight, he mentions Frisk's expression, and is able to read it. That's because Sans sees YOU. The player. Flowey is able to do this, too, at least he is aware of it. He says "I bet someone like that is watching right now, aren't they?" hinting at the presence of the player. He knows you exist, since he speaks directly to you. Also, Chara has that smile on her face because they do have a soul. They are able to have/feel expression, as Toby Fox intended for that to be a part of the game. Chara's smile indicates that they were a player that actually fell into the game. The player, however, still had the ability to save and load. I would go on, but gosh, I need to stop at some point. Any thoughts?
+IntelGameZ Its also meant for you to put your name in when naming Chara. But we need to consider Charas existence from two different perspectives: both as a metaphorical device and as a character within the fictional 'sandbox'. From a metaphorical standpoint I feel that Chara like flowery could be thought of as a manifestation of the Buddhist concept of attachment. There is no love, no enjoyment, just predictable lines of text that nurture a heartless indifference. Your soulless MC who continues to run the false pacifist ending is the ultimate result. This is why after the true pacifist ending Flowery begs you to stop, not give in to the power that you have been fighting all along, this soulless attachment. From an in-game point of view my theory is that we should continue with the Buddhists theme and focus on the word 'reincarnation'. Every time you see a game over screen your MC sees Charas last memories and when you fall in the trash zone your MC relives Charas fall into the underground. In world I believe that Frisk is Charas reincarnation and that this connection to the underground from his past life might have been what drew him there in the first place. Perhaps it was what drew all the children there. In waterfall it's mentioned that the barrier was constructed by seven human mages. But in that case, in-world what is possessing Fisk? One thought could be that Frisk reverts to his personality from his previous life, but I don't think Char was as much a horrific evil as he was in the genocide run when he was alive or he would have just killed the monsters then. No I think that like flowery the Chara we meet in the genocide run is a soulless essence left behind by Charts corpse buried under the flowered you fall on. Like Flowery your souls enormous DETERMINATION animates him within frisks body instead of inside a flower and that on every run Frisk fights against his influence as you play. The Level of Violence you gain as you kill monsters is Charas influence slowly warping Fisk into something inhumane. This is all my interpretation and could be 100 percent incorrect but I do feel that Chara needs to be examined as both an in game Character and a reference to part of the one controlling the CHARActer.
Joel Sasmad I see what you are saying there, but here's a theory: What if Frisk isn't human? What if they are what they are in reality; A 2d sprite that you control. That's why Chara can posses Frisk, but only in the genocide route. This is so because in the pacifist or a friendly neutral route, you as the player are acting like these characters are real. That's why some people cry at the end of Undertale. However, once you do the genocide route, you know that all the characters are purely fictional. You don't treat these characters as living things; Only as pawns in the game you control. In the genocide route, Chara is just the in-game representation of the loss of one's ability to treat characters as real people. Eventually, as you kill more and more, Chara, your ability to kill characters without any serious concern, becomes more & more powerful. This applies to any game where you can kill things, not just Undertale. Take games like Fallout 4 or Dishonored for example; When you kill someone in those games, you don't have that sense of "Oh my god, what have I done! I just killed someone!!!" That you would get if you took someone's life in reality. That's what Chara is; Your Character. The one that you control (thus having no soul) and the one that carries out the act of killing without feeling ANYTHING. They are just a sprite, so they don't care if you kill. The only reason why you can end the genocide route at (almost) any moment is because you, the player, can still say "Hey, this is wrong! I have to stop killing these guys!" And Chara can't stop you. Once you complete the genocide route, though, Chara's in charge now. You have fully committed to murder, and you have basically reached a point of no return; You killed every monster in the underground, and if you were able to keep playing to be able to kill the shopkeepers, you wouldn't hesitate to do so. That's why Chara can take over; They would do the same as you if you were to keep going, so you are no longer needed in that world. Hence Chara, being that she is actually a force within the game, can crash your game, delete saves, basically run the game themself. And once that happens, there's no going back; You have fully become Chara.
well the comment below me I strongly feel is correct but there is no way of knowing I went back to when chara was trying to commit suicide it just shows that the way most adults make children feel is powerless imagine you are brought into a mysterious new place and have so many questions but the more you ask the more you get told to shut up or when you become quriouse and want to try new things you are told to follow tradition and since they are older than you there is nothing you can do about it you realise the flaws in the society and are too weak to OK correct it or fight back so living becomes kinda pointless it's just to grow and do the same to other kids that's why I find my teachers so annoying the forget how it feels to be under powered to be so afraid to ask a question in fear of the teacher hitting you ( in Africa BTW I heard Americans aren't aloud to get hit with a stick on the bum or get clapped in the face for failing to answer a question correctly ) what I am trying to say is that chara depicts how children feel when trying to reason with adults it's because adults don't see the error in their ways but you can't really blame them it's just what their parents did to them so they just copy it it's what their grandparents showed their parents and so on they get so used to being mistreated ( or as my parents call it being respecting your elders ) that even though the child's ideas might make a difference they won't listen and by doing so they are taking away the child's right to have a say
I realized that laughing it off means "laugh away the pain"
Undyne laughs when she's fading away, Toriel laughs when you kill her and by so monster it says "You laugh so hard tears roll down your face"
and also Mettaton, when he casts you into the 'dungeon' with the multi-colored tile maze. He says "I'm so filled with grief I can't stop laughing"
I'm beginning to think that laughter is a common coping mechanism in the underground. Undyne laughs as she dies, Toriel laughs as she realizes who she should have protected before her death, Mettaton references this coping mechanism like it's the default response, and sans hides his depression through humor. The entire underground tries to smile and laugh, in spite of their pain and tragedy, because, in the words of one of the minor characters... "We can't do anything, so why be morose about it?"
SwankyBox is so dumb
I still dosent understand why someone will kill toriel... i mean its just being the crulest person alive
@@noname-rq1vm How the heck does killing a IN GAME NPC make you the cruelest person alive?
@@amrgohar2609 because they don’t know bout real murderers
I have a sister called Cara.
SwankyBox: The demon that comes when people call it's name.
*At that exact moment, Cara comes into my room.*
Cara: Hey, Aoife, do you have any spare card?
Me: *SCREAMS*
Chara
HOLY TEMMIE FLAKES IN A SPAGHETTI BOWL WITH MACARONI AND CHEESE WITH KETCHUP
Ruysiel Avalos
Eww
Yep ur ded
Are you Italian?
When Chara calls themslef “the demon who comes when people call it’s name” she used the term demon, and not devil, referring to a loyal servant of the devil, and on genocide, the devil, is the player
Yup
smart
@Peculiar Young Lady Asriel is calling himself the god of hyperdeath chara just have the same imo
@Peculiar Young Lady Chara kills like 3 people while you have a 100 killstreak,and even if you try to argue "Asgore was their dad!" The player kills Toriel,who was essentially their mother.
@Peculiar Young Lady I don't know if you didn't notice my comment,if you dipped out,or whatever,but I'm still waiting on another response.
“Similar to the cutscene you see when you first start playing...”
That _is_ Chara, because Frisk landed on flowers, which don’t show in the cutscene...
Oh hi
=)
X_X
hi chara
No, it was confirmed ingame during the Asriel fight
The only thing that confuses me is, in genocide route, asriel immediately tells you that you are Chara, AND you have a STOLEN soul. BUT when you get to the ending, Chara 'asks' you for your soul to bring back the world.
In the game it is said that a human cannot absorb a human soul. So Chara cannot be a human.
+lightsen - It sort of goes along the lines of being a demon as well, since a soul can be sold to a demon or devil (in a figure of speech sense). And since humans can't absorb other human souls like you said, it leaves a lot to be interpreted about why a human would want to acquire another human's soul then. Unless Chara's intentions were not to absorb it, but more so to prove dominance over it.
+SwankyBox Hey you forgot something HUGE.
Chara's second genocide route dialouge.
+SwankyBox In it,Chara states that he is confused (and maybe even a little disgusted) that you "rebuild this world to destroy it all over again."
+lightsen I thought Chara somehow possessed Frisk when Frisk fell onto the flowers.
+victini pokeparkroad - The dialogue about Chara being a demon is the second genocide route's ending. I included bits and pieces of it in the video and make note of it at 5:09. As for the repeatedly destroying the world part, while I didn't feature the dialogue in the video visually, I sort of believed it to be snowballed in with the part about Chara being bored with the world. In my eyes, their analysis of your behavior was that of confusion because they don't see the point in repeating what has been done. They find it entertaining regardless though, so they might as well stick around for the ride for the next world. However, I suppose that would only hold true if your interpretation of the purpose behind Chara's behavior aligns with that.
"Chara" the demon that comes when people call it's name
John Cena: Are you sure about that?
Frisk : yes
Or you want to put yourself into INFINITE DEATH SEQUENCE???
(kill then LOAD and kill again)
9999999999999999999999
I thought we couldn't see you Cena.
... What I have as a theory is kinda crazy.
So Chara, the first fallen human, raised with Asriel under the care of Asgore and Toriel Dreemurr was a normal child. Possibly abused or orphaned on the surface, they were left with a deep 'hatred' for humanity which is really just depression. Finding a family, Chara forgets their depression until a misread recipie causes them to send Asgore into a near-death sickness. This reincarnates Chara's depression at a higher level, believing it is their fault, they do what most people do when they want to hide sadness. Smile and laugh so the ones they love stay happy.
~Time Skip~
Asriel finds the camera and begins asking Chara about their past. Chara refuses to answer, but instead does a 'creepy face' that scares Asriel. This may be Chara's depression showing through, and Asriel being an oblivious monster, takes the fake yet creepy smile as a scary face. Then Chara remembers about Asgore's situation with buttercups when Asriel mentions them being able to laugh it off and requests the camera to be turned off so their parents could not listen in on the conversation.
~Time Skip~
A few months later, Chara has torn up their internal organs with the poisonous buttercup. Eating the flower puts them into a comatose state. This had been the hidden conversation Asriel and Chara had. Chara was to poison themselves, die, and let Asriel take their soul to get six more and break the barrier. Sadly, in the state of mind they are in, they talk about golden flowers of their village, and Asriel takes that as a tell that Chara wants to see them. After crossing the barrier with Chara's soulless corpse, humans see and attack the young monster believing he murdered the human child. This fuels Chara's rage towards humanity.
~Fallen Down~
More children fall down. Not a single one had the determination Chara had. Then, Frisk falls. Young little determined Frisk. Their determination is strong enough to awaken Chara. Chara then proceeds to help Frisk through the underground. When they begin to kill, Chara grows confused, and ends up helping. Sadly, this twists Chara's mind, and after killing Flowey, they remind Frisk just who was helping them. Chara explains that they are the feeling players get. That they are the summoned demon, but truly, they don't believe this. They are a confused kid who sat through limbo after watching their brother be mercilessly murdered by humans. Chara wants to erase the world, so the player learns a lesson. They want to teach the player that every action has a consequence.
BlueB 03 I love this theory
i dont reeally agre to this theory, though it does have some good ideas
heres why, its not really my theory but it sums up my points.
You did not "teach them" that killing is okay. In fact, Chara helps you every way they can in the genocide route. They give you the kill count, both in the stat screen and save points as early as Snowdin. They would even go as far as calling Papyrus "Forgettable" and Monster Kid "Free EXP".
Also, they are not corrupted by the LV either. Some proof to this is that if you kill 36 Knight Knights in the Core (There being 40 enemies) that will bring you to LV 15, even if you don't kill anyone else in the game. This proves that Chara doesn't care about LV. The genocide ending will not occur until EVERY. SINGLE. THING. is killed. Finally bringing you to LV 19 and all monsters possible are killed in the Ruins, Snowdin, Waterfall, and Hotland.
Only then, will Chara reveal themself. If Chara was really "taught" that killing is okay, then they wouldn't have required that you killed everyone.
More evidence to prove that Chara wants to destroy monsterkind is that if you kill everyone in Snowdin, but spare Snowdrake everytime you pass him, the SAVE point will say "The comedian got away." and the genocide run will be aborted. Which proves that Snowdrake is a special enemy and requires to be killed, even if you got the kill count reqired.
Also, in Waterfall before you get to the bridge, Chara will advise you to go back and kill everyone before continuing because of the changed battleground scene. These actions are not of someone who was "taught" that killing is okay, these actions are from someone that wanted to be The Angle of Death and kill everyone in the Underground and destroy the timeline.
Just Snowdrake in itself is enough evidence to prove that Chara is out for blood- er... dust. Since Snowdrake is a random encounter, you will randomly meet him if you do not kill him. If you get the kill count you need (and therefore "teaching" Chara) but you spare Snowdrake everytime, you will abort genocide because unlike the rest of the random encounter monsters, there is only one Snowdrake, and it is required you kill it.
BlueB 03 dude you said time skip in some parts this ain’t Dragon Ball Super
@@HarleyBeeLive Id get toriel, but chara does it before you kill toriel, and plus, the monsters in the ruins arent as old as toriel, and porbably havent met chara...
The real reason chara fell into the underground was
To see if there was fall damage
Does Minecraft existed at that time
@@neondarium9016 Yes it did.
theres none
from what i can tell chara lost about..............69hp from the fall
Lol
In my mind, Chara was a very damaged and traumatized child. They ran away from their village and sought to commit suicide upon Mount Ebbot. However being taken in by the Dreemurrs caused him to grow attached to monsters. Thus began his misguided effort to destroy both the barrier and the humans who hurt him.
Later, when Frisk arrived Charas essence latches onto Frisk. Then it is the Player who decides the outcome. If the Player goes towards the Pacifist Route then Charas soul is pacified and simply laid to peace.
However if the Player goes the genocide route the soul of Chara, who is still that of a traumatized child reaches a breaking point. Seeing Frisk and the Player mercilessly kill monsters and his "mother" Toriel causes the soul of Chara to become corrupt by not only the Players actions but also the accumulated LV.
Chara then becomes a demon and takes advantage of the Players actions to escape the underground.
+Santos La Rose That's actually a really good theory. It ties up some (if not all) of the loose ends and doesn't make Chara 'completely evil', which I really like.
+Santos La Rose what about the neutral path?
+Immortal Turtle (Sharders) I think Chara will just stay normal.
Immortal Turtle I'm thinking maybe Chara will either be 'good' like in Pacifist (in case you never actually killed ahyone and just forgot to befriend Undyne, Alphys or Papyrus) or maybe he'll regret his actions and start sparing people (in case you DID kill someone, but either on accident or because you didn't know how to get past them otherwise.)
+Immortal Turtle (Sharders) in the pacifist ending I'm not too sure. Even what happened to Frisk afterwards is foggy. It could be that Chara just doesn't exist outside of a "narrator".
Honestly, portraying Chara as the great threat in Undertale is unfair. In the Genocide route, he says that he realizes why whe came back when you start killing monsters, prompting him to gain in LV and boosting the stats.
So what I'm saying is: the Darkness behind Chara? It's you. The player. You're the one who turned him into a demon. Because in the end, in the genocide route...you are the bad guy who decided "let's just kill everyone". Even Sans noticed it. Who do you think "the anomaly" was?
Chara was no angel in his living...but YOU made him a demon.
it was LV that corrupted chara, the stat menu says chara not frisk. She absorbs the LV and as sans says 'the more LV you gain, the easier it is to kill. The more you get disconnected.
This person gets it
The stats menu only says Chara if you name your character chara
Finally someone who has knowledge
The Diamond Falls aka Rosa Ice the Cat Fox The Fuck
ehhh your very close if not correct
"The demon that comes when called by name"
Ok, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara,Chara
Huh, nothing happene-
Greetings. :)
Wrong smile
=)
OH SHIT
Yay :D
Uh oh, looks like you accidentally summoned a demon.
Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara,Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, CharaChara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara,Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, Chara, CHARA!!!!!
"And without direct clarification" -SwankyBox
"And without direct charafication" -Sans
Someone had to
lol
Seneca Adrian Sibaja Pinacho You have a good funny bone
+Nicole L well that's rather... *sunglasses on* humerous.
I thought that exact same thing XD
StrongFish91 Getting our *skulls* out of the clouds, lets talk about something different. did *sansta* claus come to town? He almost didn't because we were *Snowdin* ~Sans
(I just realized you are StrongFish91 from the spaghetti post)
Most people: "I say Chara, like from CHARActer"
Some people: " I think its Chara, like Shara"
My Friend: " I think its Clara"
I always thought it was like charcoal
CHARAcoal. Because.. Idk.
My impossible girl...
Your friend is literally insane
I pronounce the ch like the ch from chocolate
pronounce it chara is actually better to hear it than pronounce it "khara"
After you finish the Pacifist route completely, and the 6 main characters are standing in a circle you can walk all the way back to the ruins. If you go to the very first room of the game after defeating Asriel, he is standing over the flowers that you originally fell on. If you talk to him, he tells you that Chara hated humanity and fell down the mountain to kill themself.
So yes, they did attempt suicide.
actually asriel says "It wasn't for a happy reason"
***** If you keep talking to him his dialogue changes
+MicroKube He never said anything about suicide, All he said was,
"I Know why Chara Climbed the mountain, It wasn't a very happy Reason, Chara hated humanity."
+MicroKube He never says he commited suicide, but it's implied
+Arctic Chill In the Genocide run, Flowey said He followed in Chara's footsteps and "erase" himself. Sounds like Chara wanted to die.
Chara: *Chara* - cter
Sans: sand
Frisk: risk
Toriel: tutorial
Asgore: Assgore
Sans: COMIC SANS
Ass gore
Sands
Sans: ness
Ness: snes
Wolfie-Mask 777 Asgore : Gore
"why does chara hate humanity"
she was a teenager.
That's 100% legit.
She had puberty
Peter Kolev Kid are you high?
Peter Kolev to what
I understand the reference, Pete.
It's actually the opposite, Frisk killing monster is what corrupts Chara, not Chara corrupting Frisk. Chara says "with YOUR guidance I realised the purpose of my reincarnation" which means that Frisk killing everybody made Chara think that he was reincarnated to get more power, and if you go by the Chara narrator theory you'll realise that Chara got reincarnated the moment Frisk fell on the flower bed and since they were so confused they decided to let Frisk guide them instead of controlling Frisk by themselves.
Good theory.
are you muslim
+Ranu Akhter The HELL did that come from?
but chara already was evil BEFORE genocide
They hated humanity, yess, but not evil. Remember they killed THEMSELVES to cross the barrier , when they could have killed any other monster in the underground. Chara´s hatred wanted to kill humans but Asriel resisted. If he hadnt resisted Chara would have killed six people and broken the barrier setting the undergroung free.
What triggered Chara’s corruption? Were they always this way due to their upbringing, or did something occur overtime that made them become what they are? What do you think?
I think you next theory should be about how frisk not die when fall and every thing in game is maybe just a dream
Get dunked on
+Sirapob Yodmahalabkul the bed of flowers. But that does not explain how Chara survived since the bed of flowers was planted after Asriel's death.
I'd say Time.
+SwankyBox It is mostly us the player, which twisted Chara into a disillusioned killer, because we gave them the only answer to everything, Power. It is as it were the one and only answer to everything. If we go the full pacifist without ever completing Genocide, Chara won't be twisted.
As they say, children are the most cruel, when they do not know what they do.
I like how you dident just state Chara was evil...you kept it up to debate...I disagreed with a few things here...but there was some things I agreed on...either way I liked the video
Do you know what a facade is? Just because people thought chara was nice and a hopeful good person doesnt mean that he/she was
I honestly think that Chara ISN'T the "evil character". Now, now, I have evidence. Actually ALOT of evidence...
*You are the influence to Chara's "evil".* Yes, you, the player. After all, WE are the people who are pressing that "fight" button. We are the ones telling her, pushing her to grab that knife. At the end of the game, Chara states (Not exact same words cause I can't remember the exact words...) 'Oh? You want to go back? After all you've done? Since were you the one in control?'. What Chara said is true but we did have the power of influence. After you play the Genocide route again, you see Chara again. She begs you to do the special "Pacifist route". Sure, after you do what Chara wants, at the end, Chara scribbles over all the characters on the picture, she is actually serving justice. After doing the Genocide route 2 times (or more), she is giving you want you deserved. You killed everyone's families, friends, monsters, you deserved something at least. Most players feel that oh no what has Chara done? No, what have YOU done? This world didn't do anything to you. Actually, it saved you from dying (Starvation and fall) So, why do you have to kill every single creature you see? Note for all paths (Genocide, Pacifist, Neutral). It doesn't matter if it's red text or not, she's always narrator.
Chara even knows how the player is! She knows that we think we are above consequences.
Chara's story is still a bit clouded. It starts off by Chara trying to kill herself? Again, I'm not sure. She lands on flowers and Asriel finds her. She asks for the fallen human's name and she joins Asriel's family. Fast forwards and Chara and Asriel backs Asgore a pie. They put buttercups as one if the ingredients, Thus posioning him. They children after all! And Asriel was helping Chara so why isn't he one of the "evil characters"?. After that discovery, Chara realized that if she died, the border could be broken. She was a human after all. So, she posioned herself so Asriel could absorb the 6 now 7 humans souls, thus be able to break the border. Well, that was their plan. Asriel made it up to the surface, Chara still with her and advising her, Asriel walked towards a small village. The humans, seeing this monster with a dead child in it's hands, assumed that the monster had killed the child. So, they drove him out. Chara told Asriel to fight back because she wanted to show Asriel how cruel humans really are, thus driving her to falling down the mountain (I theorize). But Asriel gave Mercy. But the humans did not. They drove them down, back into the monster world. So, they placed Chara's body down below the golden patch of flowers where they had met her. When Frisk fell down, her/his determination was so that Chara was brought back, thus making herself useful by giving tips and building the child and acting as the narrator.
Anyways, if you want more evidence I got more. Just tell me if you want to see it. I guess I should wrap this up. So those were some of my reasons and explanations to why Chara is not "Evil". So yeah. Debate all ya want but I'm sticking to my theory. Sorry this was so long... For more evidence search: Judgement boy who is the true villian of undertale? And here's part 2: Judgement boy Chara's orgins.
Enjoy both vids! :D
Oof, I said break the barrier with 6 souls. I meant that with a human soul combined with a monster's soul, you can cross the barrier not break it.
Part 2's title is actually: Chara theory [FOLLOWUP]
I was on a phone while typing this theory okay? I didn't know the titles -_-
None of that is really evidence. You string together facts from the game, then jump to conclusions. But this is what all the Chara fans do. This is what we know.
Chara hated humankind. All of them, and this may well include mom and dad.
Even after poisoning Asgore with buttercups, which is a really nasty affliction by the way, what did she learn? Not "hey, don't mess with these flowers like that." No, "they're deadly."
What does she do even after spending a happy life with the Dreemurrs and particularly her new step-brother Asriel? Plots her suicide.
When she dies and merges with Asriel, what does she do? Tries to gain control so she can kill all the humans. Asriel resists and stops her, even as he's being killed.
Yes, we are the ultimate villain of Undertale, should we decide to go on a killing spree. The game won't play itself. But Chara is not a nice, normal girl in any way, shape or form. And this is the real evidence.
I just read another long comment
THIS IS LIKE A ESSAY!!!
True, you do decide Pasicfist (Sorry I don't know how to spell it) Or Genocide. Chara Became a "Demon" due to watch you doing Genocide. She'd go back in time (If that is possible) and terrorize people untill she was considered one. if she did it in time, she'd be able to come back and tell you that
I have one thing to say about chara falling chara didn't fall by tripping she really jumped down to commit suicide
Growger2908 gaming Proof?)
Its_Elkku yeah there is lots of proof 1st she didn't slip she jumped to commit suicide 2nd she made a pie with toriel and then she put poison in the pie making her sick
Its_Elkku also asriel says she/he came down the mountain for "not a very happy reason"
Growger2908 gaming That's not proof. That is just restating your previous statement.
Growger2908 gaming dude you guys just want to be laid chara a boy
Chara actually is the narrator of the game
Sometimes Chara and sometimes Gaster
The narrator is textbox_01
Flowey is actually the OP character in the game.
But here we analyse chara and asriel as characters, not as 4th wall breaking gods
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Yes
Is Chara really evil? Whe Chara fell she was probably fell because she wanted to commit suicide, she was being bullied . She fell and got found by Asriel. He took her Chara to the Dreemurs and was loved. She baked a pie using buttercups and poisoned Asgore. She felt bad and "laughed it off". Most characters do this when they are sad or scared. She poisoned herself to let Asriel absorb her soul. She wanted to see the buttercup flowers in the overworld. He got there and was accused of killing Chara. He went back to the underground and died where you first start out in the game. Where Chara died buttercup flowers grew there.
When frisk fell Chara was awokken by Frisks determination and was now a ghost following Frisk on her adventure. She saw everyone she loved. She gave you descriptions of all the characters when you were in battle. But if you choose the genocide route she be silent for most of the battles like Sans, Undyne, and mom and dad. Chara was never a murderer, the only person she killed was herself. Frisk was the one making the decision to kill everybody while Chara is just hopelessly watching while all off her friends and family were being killed right before her. She was around 10 most likely and didn't know how to respond to all of that confusion.
One question , if Chara really wanted to see the golden flowers on the overworld , why did Chara committed suicide trying to fell down Mt. Ebott , even when she knows that everyone that fell down , will die .
Or maybe it was an excuse to go to the surface and use his real plan .
On top of that, they even state themselves that they don't like the players actions. When you recreate the world and do another genocide run, they state: "You're wracked with a perverted sentimality." Key word is "perverted". That means they don't like your actions and choices. Also, THEY are the one punishing you with doing that run. They jumpscare you and then corrupt your game so you will never get a happy ending. In other words, they aren't the bad guy. Chara was the good guy all along, you just have to look deep enough.
I don't think people who get bullied will want to destroy entire humanity. They may get sad, depressed and may get suicidal but they don't feel like they need to destroy humanity. That's totally messed up. And if she did hate humans, she showed no sadness for all the monsters that were killed. Also Chara doesn't come to life in Pacifist run because only true evil can wake her up suggesting she's evil. And the eyes are very much creepy. This is what I think tho.
WOW you have to much time on your hands
*chill face*
when you said "the demon that comes when you call its name" i went Chara hmmmmmm no one came
*wispers* i kind of wish someone came
Same
And say kill me daddy IS DAT WAT YAH GONZZA SAY
But nobody came.
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@@katsu_devil508 Chara doesn't exist in real world, that's why
My theory on Chara's relation to Frisk *Pacifist Run= Truly Frisk. this is Frisk acting as their truest self. with no influence from Chara. a hint to this (if I remember correctly) is that your name is only revealed and you are only called 'Frisk' in the pacifist run. I really feel this was a hint left by toby along with "despite everything, it is still you" *Any Neutral Run= Frisk is being 'influenced' my Chara. almost like having a ghost or demon whispering in your ear, or taking temporary being taken over. like, maybe Chara's soul is still human at this point so they are unable to steal Frisk's soul (more about soul steal below) *Merciless/Genocide Run- Total Chara possession. As stated by Flowey in the beginning of the genocide run "you're Chara right?" and "i have a plan to become more powerful, even more powerful than you and your STOLEN SOUL" this means that Chara has stolen Frisk's soul. but I believe this also means that Chara is also no longer a human but rather a demon (like this video stated) because accorded to Alphys's Journal entries, humans can not steal other human soul. Same with monster being unable to steal other monster souls. That is why Flowey could steal both human AND monster souls at the end of the pacifist run, because he was neither monster nor human...he was a demon...flower...thing...lol. anyway, it's also hinted that Chara is not a human or monster based off of how Sans and Asgore address them. Sans stated "it would make my brother really happy if you were a human, so I would really appreciate if you could keep PRETENDING TO BE ONE" and Asgore says "i'm sorry but what kind of monster are you? sorry but I can not tell." this pretty clearly implying that they are neither human nor monster. now again, this is only MY THEORY so I could be wrong but I do think I have some pretty solid evidence to support it. but what do you guys think?
nice theory
why thank you :)
I like this! It makes a lot of sense.
thank you :) i thought so too lol and idk about you guys, but i imagine Frisk as an extremely kind hearted, silly and oddly flirtatious child lol like i said before, i feel like this why Toby Fox only uses Frisk's name in the Pacifist ending, but this is the only ending that is the true Frisk, where you dance, laugh, smile and flirt your way to victory lol the other endings are Chara's influence or Chara themselves. which again is why your name is never really used in the neutral run and why you are called Chara in the Genocide run. sorry, i am repeating myself aren't i? lol XD i do that sometimes just to make sure i explained myself properly.
So I'm guessing that when you ditch a genocide run, Frisk take back control from Chara? Interesting thought.
Another thing: it possible to do a genocide run in hard mode. AKA when you name your character Frisk to trigger it. If Toby ever finishes Hard Mode, we may get some more story dwelling on that.
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8% Chara is EVIL!! I knew it!
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1% Chara didn't laugh at Asgore!
90% CHARA ISN'T EVIL I UNSUBSCRIBE FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE!!!!
But she isn't. chara was most likely corrupted by the murder
I like chara being evil theory much more and I think it fits to the game very well.
@@Mas-cm6cy Her hate comes before the player's actions, I think she was corrupted when she and asriel were attacked by humans at surface
Alfa Tayfa chara was most likely corrupted by the human,also chara doesn’t hate anyone as she doesn’t have a soul,she even stated herself as a demon,and a demon is someone that do the devil bidding meaning that chara is doing your dirty job
@@kaanuysal579 chara was teach that it's killed or be killed
Actually, Chara was confirmed "Chill" by Temmie Chang...
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STILL CHILL
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like the ch in chill?
S t I l l c h a r a
chara laughed because she's laughing from pain
chara of undertal and frisk of undertal
yes, I agree
Gamer Girl06 yeah
Yeah
Me too
IT COULD BE TRUE
Chara is not the true villain, we are:
chara was forced to follow the player (aka frisk) and is 'good' when we do a pasafist ending, but if WE do a genocide ending then chara was forced to be 'bad' and such. so WE are given the. hope to be good or bad, WE choose, IT IS NOT CHARA!!!!!!! don't blame chara for our choosing or wrongdoings to murder
thank you I hate when people say is chara the villain, chara is just learning from us we can teach them to be good or bad
+Kezayah Eberhart exactly!!!!!
Ally Tyson it really spoils my blood when they say chara is a demon
+Kezayah Eberhart
rattles ur bones?
XD
Ally Tyson lol good one
“Save the world from a brown haired child”
*i look at myself
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Hair! Cool! Yummy...
U are not frisk!
It's ok frisk *whisper*: I think your beautiful.
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I think that Chara isn't evil at all. We're the ones who corrupt them, and we use them as our scapegoat.
"You think you are above consequences"
I think Chara is kind of an awful mix between good and bad.
Like, what they do is with good intent, but they carry it out through evil manners
Getting revenge on the Humans to save the Monsters and destroy the barrier = Good intent
Manipulating their best friend by purposefully poisoning themself to make a dying wish = Evilly carried out
@@ohmeohmicah They were a bad kid but they had good intentions. As you gain LOVE, so does Chara. Chara is the one who becomes more and more distanced, like sans described
ı think chara is soulless just like flowey he couldnt feel love and just like flowey if you spare all mosnters he will give you your good ending but if you kill them all he will become corrupted
@@Ahmet-co8ps You are actually right, since Chara only felt emotions when we gave them our soul.
Well the question about Chara falling into the Underground--Unlikely that it was out of suicidal intent. Chara canonically trips over a branch into the Underground. Upon their landing, they also call out for help, likely out of desperation. If they truly wanted to die, they probably would've just stopped trying and accepted their fate. Another thing is that Asgore himself compares Frisk to Chara, saying they have the same "look of hope" in their eyes.
dazai-san I think that Chara climbed the mountain because of the legend, but they didn't actually know that the hole was supposed to be the reason why people should disappear, and that's why they tripped. Don't forget that Asriel tells us the reason why Chara _climbed_ the mountain, not the reason why they fell, so Chara probably climbed the mountain because they thought they will be dead soon because of the legend, but they didn't know about the hole.
Salvo il Commentatore It's unlikely that Chara came to Mount Ebott to die, though. They may have thought coming to Mount Ebott would allow them an escape from humanity, but likely didn't expect to die.
dazai-san
"So, I decided to _follow in your footsteps_. I wuold _erase myself from existence_."
-Flowey, talking to Chara, near the end of the Genocide run.
Salvo il Commentatore That is completely up to interpretation. Flowey could've meant that he tried to kill himself because _Chara_ was dead, or like you seem to imply, Chara killed themself.
I'm leaning towards the former, especially considering my previous points about how Chara isn't suicidal.
dazai-san Well, about Chara calling for help, it makes sense, probably Chara thought that it will be a quick death, but then they survived the fall, and we know that falling in Mt. Ebott, without golden flowers that broke the fall, _hurts_. Someone has even found a narration that proves that Chara was masochist (aminoapps.com/page/undertale/7670312/chara-facts-part-6), but it's only for those who believe in the Narra-Chara theory.
I think Chara is a personiphication of Player's decisions in game. Players often are agressive and cruel in game worlds. If Player is a good person and don't wannna hurt game characters, then Chara is not a demon. Is only a sad child from cruel world.
Frisk is one os reincarnation of Chara, because Players play in more than one game.
Yes, because in most RPGs, players usually fight monsters to progress in the story
Jannine Jaylo When i fight in cRPG, this is my defence.
+Nekrolai240591 that's a good idea
+Jacob Lassing r
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Happiest of holidays! I bring the best gift of all this season… Sleep paralysis and corruption! Mwhahaha! In all seriousness, I hope you all have a great holiday season and I want to thank you for your continued support. Stay swanky my friends!
You too
Well about sleep paralysis, i always, ALWAYS had sleep paralysis when i woke up from a bad dream. I broke through the sleep paralysis thou (struggle and somehow broke through and made me can move) for the most time
Hey swanky merry Christmas also I have a Theory maybe chara is just a sick representation of Toby foxs dark mind and frisk ( pacifist) is his spare kind mind hmm also ( theory about the toy knife plz I wonder was it a weapon in general or.... A human who killed before charas apperince in Undertale maybe a cold hearted human hunter anyways I think it's silly right?
I think chara is becoming a demon because he wants the humanities to be dead(include monsters from underground)and the character that you are play,could be chars.
lv means level of violence
Chara called themself a Stat spirit basically, she’s not a demon, but a stat embodiment, they would not notice as they were alive, due to they were alive.
Well, Everyone is a dog,so character is a cat
It's obvious
Come on guys
i can see where your right
Lol
Bratty-????? Catty-Cat (duh!)
......o.....k?
+Metrack
sans the dog
papyrus the dog
toriel's my dogmom
asgore's my dogdad
asriel is the babydog
flOWEY THE GODDAMN DOG.
I think what is left of chara's soul floods into frisk when they fall. Chara's body is buried under these flowers. If frisk is an evil child, then chara returns as that, the levels and numbers dictate who chara grows into.
In pacifist their soul doesn't gain power, but still conscience. It calls for Asriel, your best friend. but they cannot do anything, the only route with asriel coming back is where chara has no control.
maybe that's why they want frisk's soul? to do pacifist and end things right. the chara flash thing at the end of the game was most likely them waking up, and I theorize going to find asriel.
They likely woke up to murder all of humanity... then they were bitchkilled by our insane technologically advanced weapons.
+YourMumsGrannysPetDolphin lol omg have a likexD
Try to be nice that's a good thing plus the whole school hates the genocide route
You do realize after Chara 'wakes up' she goes out to kill all the monsters in the village. If you choose to go other places after a geno run, it shows a picture of all your friends and you in the middle, then you turn into Chara and all your friend's faces have red x's on them. Chara has killed them.
Note that Chara is very similar to Chakra.
The Google definition is "each of the centers of spiritual power in the human body, usually considered to be seven in number."
Coincidence? The fact that spiritual power in the human body is basically the soul or the trait each fallen human soul had.
And that there were 7 human souls originally.
+Tony Got Very Really Super Omega Hyper Startled By Chadtronic oh shit
you're right
+Masahiro Sakurai™ (Tony) I did a little more research on this. The 7 chakra 'centres' are Spirituality (purple), Intuition ( Dark Blue) , Communication (Light Blue), Love (Green) , Power (Yellow), Sexuality (Orange) and Survival (Red). Coincidentally, these are also the representative colours of all the 7 fallen human's souls. Toby Fox did change the meanings (Bravery Justice Integrity Kindness Perseverence and Patience) to suit the game. The mystery surrounding Chara can probably be solved if we delve deeper into what this all means.
+Crusty Sean I always thought that too
+Madhu T :o
+Crusty Sean smart cookie! I like that statement it spoken well!
Chara wasn't happy about asgore getting sick she was laughing out the pain like other monsters like to riel when you kill her
What?Chara is evolving!
Congratulations!Chara evolved into GIRATINA!
A Pokémon
charamander xD
OMG,i get this, ccuz i play pkmn
Alexe Mihnea Andrei XD
CHARAZARDDDDDDD!!!!
Chara is a real name/word, it is the Irish word for friend, WHICH MAKES PERFECT SENCE! FOR SOME REASON
+DragonFang 409 - I wasn't aware of that actually. Thanks for bestowing your wisdom!
+SwankyBox
Your welcome!
Because Asriel delusionally saw them as a friend
+DragonFang 409 irish u say?
have you seen game theory's video about the revenants and it being linked to ireland
I'd like to correct you - it's "cara". Spelling is actually very important.
From my understanding, Chara('s spirit?) isn't malevolent unless the player makes them so. In their words, "I was so confused. Our plan had failed, hadn't it? Why was I brought back to life? ...You. With your guidance. I realized the purpose of my reincarnation. Power." With your guidance. Your guidance being what you, the player, do during your run. By using your power to murder everyone in a genocide run, you... corrupt Chara into thinking that was why they were brought back in the first place. They begin to seek power, hence why they begin possessing Frisk.
Which would explain why they DON'T try anything funny during a pacifist/neutral run. They have no desire to seek power because you haven't exposed them to that level of nefariousness. If anything, during a true pacifist run, you show them how to love and BE loved, giving them somewhat of a happy ending.
I mean, I'm not saying Chara wasn't a messed up kid. They were most definitely One Messed Up Kid. But they weren't evil, and they weren't always a demon spawn. Not until you make them into one with your gross murder-y actions.
Interesting comment, I'd like to put in my input if you don't mind.
I couldn't find any evidence to support Chara ever WAS brought back to life in True pacifist. What revives them is the murdering of countless innocent monsters, the gaining of LOVE. If Frisk never gains any LOVE, it's safe to assume Chara never even awakens from within Frisk. If they were present, you'd think they would have stirred inside Frisk, at least when seeing Asriel again, but that never happens. I'd say Chara in genocide, was asking why they were allowed to come back after their previous plan was a complete failure, why they're still alive after committing suicide for their plan.
There only other thing I have to add is, if Chara cared about their family or to be more specific, Asriel, even a little bit, I think Asriel, as nice as he is, would have said "but they still cared about us at heart." or something to that effect. But no, all he says is "Chara wasn't the greatest person." And that's more or less Asriel saying Chara was a bad person, but sugarcoating it, like he seems to often do,
+Sasori (Grima)
(my apologies for how long this got, oh lord) It's the player's + Frisk's presence that brings Chara back to consciousness, and it's their evil acts that completely resurrect Chara into... whatever they are at the end of the genocide run. Not a monster, not a human, but a demon.
And there IS evidence of Chara's presence during a pacifist run. You know that dream about Asriel Frisk has after Undyne knocks them into the garbage dump? Yeah, that's one of Chara's memories. Every time you hear Asgore tell you not to give up after you die? Chara. Also, there could be evidence of Chara's presence during Asriel's battle. (and this is purely speculation, ofc, but,) After saving the souls of all your friends, (all of which were referred to with their own gender-specific pronouns, might I add,) you have to save one more soul."You reach out and call THEIR name." It's easy to assume THEY are Asriel, and it's HIS soul you're saving, but Chara's actually one of the characters in-game only ever referred to with they/them pronouns.
Reaching out and saving Chara triggers those memories of Asriel finding Chara, befriending them, growing to love them like a sibling. And THAT memory is what brings back Asriel's empathy and allows you to defeat him.
And in regards to Asriel saying Chara's a bad person: At the end of the game, there's another character that gets called a bad person for despising humanity and generally being mean as heck. Undyne. Monster Kid says that she's not as cool as they thought, she's mean, etc, but no one believes Undyne is evil and irredeemable. In fact, there are tons of parallels between Undyne and Chara, but I won't go into that right here omg. Basically what I'm getting at is that if we had gotten to know Chara to the extent we did Undyne, we would probably be more sympathetic toward them.
Based on what we know about Chara's life with the Dreemurrs, it's safe to assume Chara was actually rather FOND of them, and Asriel in particular. They wore around a friendship locket, most likely from Asriel, and even in the genocide run, they say that it's right where it belongs when you equip it. Chara drew pictures for their parents which Asgore kept up on the wall of his room, "For King Dad!"Also, in one ending, Asgore says himself that the hope he sees in Frisk's eyes is reminiscent of Chara';s... not exactly something you'd hear about a kid that is completely evil.
But most importantly, they never, ever intentionally hurt any of the Dreemurrs. Asgore's buttercup poisoning was unintentional, a child's mistake. If they had wanted to hurt the goat fam, they absolutely could have, being a human and all. If Chara was cruel enough, they could have poisoned Asgore for good, or stabbed Toriel with that Real Knife of theirs, taken a soul, and crossed the barrier to punish humanity themselves. But they didn't. Instead, they poisoned themselves and died slowly and painfully. (I suggest you look up the symptoms of buttercup poisoning.... they're not very fun) They trusted Asriel with their soul, not knowing that they would have any power once a part of him. And I'm willing to bet they NEVER meant for Asriel to get hurt, let alone die.
Sad Goat (Well I'll have a long response myself, sorry, lol) All of those memories/flashback that Frisk experiences while unconscious/dead?. Yeah, I know, those were what led people to believe that Chara's spirit was inside Frisk in the first place. But there is still NEVER any direct intervention, positive or negative. I'm sure the "they" in saving Someone Else was to temporarily hide the fact it was Asriel, especially since it becomes his name afterwards.
And I wouldn't say it's exactly right to compare Monster Kid, who is legitimately still a kid, to Asriel, who at that point is a LOT older than he looks, despite still being a child at heart, and actually was close with Chara, unlike Monster Kid who doesn't seem to know Undyne very well at all personally.
Regarding Flowey, the part in genocide when he tells Chara that he started killing people out of curiosity, only wanting to do so to see what would happen, he says to Chara "You of all people must know how liberating it is to act this way!" This hints at Chara's violent nature.
If I were to speculate, Chara didn't kill everyone at first because they had no idea what monsters were like, I'm sure they TRIED to like them, and not hate them like humans but honestly aside from appearance and soul, they don't seem to be too different. And to be honest? I don't think poisoning Asgore was a mistake. Aside from using the advanced vocabulary, Chara was able to come up their plan. They're smarter than they look. I could even go so far as to say Chara's was testing the potency of the flower's effects on Asgore, probably making sure it will kill them when they try it themself. Chara probably also knew that as large as Asgore is, a small amount of the flower wouldn't kill him.
I'm honestly surprised people didn't notice something like that in the VHS tapes. All of the tapes revealed a tidbit of information, and the thing revealed in that one? What, that the kids made a dumb mistake at one point, that doesn't seem to be super relevant to the story? I really don't think it's something as simple as that. There's no other conclusion it could be other than revealing an ulterior motive in Chara, or maybe even a bit of sadism. Considering how it was worded. Asriel said "I should have laughed it off, like you did." There it is, Asriel THINKS Chara laughed it off for the reason you described, because Chara knew he would get better. And that is exactly right, but not in the way Asriel thought, it wasn't wishful thinking. Chara DID know Asgore would get better. Why? Because they did it themself, insuring it wouldn't kill Asgore, to test it's effects in small amounts.
All in all, I still think my theory is a bit more plausible, but a lot of your points did make sense. It's made me realize Chara is a lot more of a debatable character than I thought. And I'm guessing Toby meant for them to be like that.
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Mouachee Vang Nah
KARR-ə is how the wiki says it's pronounced
I think that Chara started out nice, but then wanted to help break the barrier, and because of the buttercups, her mind got all screwy, and she started to go crazy. However in the genocide run, she wants to kill everyone for the same reason Flowey feels no mercy- she has no soul, so she can't feel love or compassion or mercy.
That's what I think
Nah Chara doesn't want to kill anyone during the pacifist route Chara's actually following you everywhere since you fell unto her grave which is the flower buds on the first place. Chara became bad due to the influence of Frisk(or you the player) killing everything and became so confused that she just went up to the conclusion of wanting power
+JC Morgendorffer lMobster101l exactly
I agree... also If you think about it, chara isn't able to make you killed is actually quite helpful, for instance translating froggit and giving helpful suggestions during battles. Notice: asgore got sick and Chara laughed it off, this is also a way to deal with pain like how Toriel laughs when you kill her and sans with all his jokes. so she obviously felt for asgore. I think when the humans attacked them, the reason why chara tried to take over and fight back was not because she wanted to kill all the humans, it was because she didn't want asriel to die with her. also on a genocide route, realize this, it was the player that was pushing the fight button not chara and i think she got a very bad influence from someone (frisk/player) and when frisk fell into the underground it awakened chara's soul from death and she was stuck with frisk weather she wanted to be or not. she also hesitated before killing flowey and it was the player who pressed enter to kill flowey. If they had reset then and there, their files would've been fine.
P.S. we can all agree chara is a girl, right?
+Drew Gislason This Is All Correct. Except The Gender.
Chara's grave is that tree in front of the house, with the red leaves
The demon that comes when you call it's name...
HEY! HEY, CHARA!!!
CHARA CHARA
CHARA CHARA!
Chara come here girl/boy. CHARA
+Emily Foster CHARA! *Gets hit by a child*
What do you want????
Chara Dreemurr SING FOR US CHARA!
What if sans had absorbed a human soul to get his powers? He is able to stay alive longer than undyne in her neutral death.
+Tim Seivfried because he is smart enough to dodge
if he couldn't dodge, he would die in 1 hit
also his attacks are all 1 damage
"The Weakest enemy"
BULL. SHIT.
+Fireork Nation
Nah. Stat wise he is.
+Fireork Nation He is the weakest enemy, since he does 1 damage per frame.
And yet, his superhuman speed makes him do that 1 damage on EVERY SINGLE FRAME of his attack animation. THAT is why he appears to be extremely powerful.
Sans also has his eye that gives him insane buffs; with him being LV 1, there is almost no way that he can dish out a better attack than a Froggit.
Chara's "scary face"s mouth kinda looks like a heart
"And without direct clarification" -SwankyBox
"And without direct charafication" -Sans
WD Gaster is involved with Chara.
Chara themself is neither a demon nor aware of the game. But their Determination is.
From a spiritualist standpoint, a Soul is a compromise of two major parts. A spirit and a noncorporeal mass. Chara, the good character, would be the Spirit. Whom possesses Frisk at the start of the game. Introducing us to narration. The Mass would be the Determination. In this case, a black blood-like substance that is hinted at in the sprites of Flowey, Hypergod of Death Asriel, the Amalgamites, the Map pieces for True Lab, WD Gaster, and Demon Chara.
Also remember that according to Alphys' notes, she extracted Determination from the Blueprints of the Soul. Where did those Blueprints come from?
Take not that Chara's soul is also missing from all the souls collected. While this can be assumed it was destroyed with Asriel's body, you have to remember the six souls still existed after the destruction of Omega Flowey. So where did Chara's soul go?
It can then be assumed Gaster experimented on Chara's Soul. This is most likely the experiment that killed Gaster, and ultimately lead to the creation of Undertale.
+Carum Sarene that is actualy a very interesting theory that chould very well be true.
+Carum Sarene I am pretty sure that soul were destroyed with Asriel's body, because in the neautral ending, pacifist ending and true pacifist ending (not sure about the true pacifist ending) it is said that other souls disappeared. But souls need a body to relocate themselves, which they didn't have, and yet they disappeared, so they were most likely destroyed. So, if other human souls were destroyed in genocide and pacifist ending, means that Chara's soul was also destroyed with Asriel's body. Correct me if I'm wrong about something, but I'm pretty sure that this is correct
...well fuck gaster
I was thinking about this. What happens if a monster absorbs a human soul but then dies? Asriel did this. I think Chara is sort of like the eye of Sauron - he doesn't have a body, but his spirit is out there, but he will have one once he gets power. He does this by entering frisk's body when frisk lands on the bed of flowers Asriel died on. Chara's soul returned to life when frisk gained power by killing everything, and then Chara took control.
+Carum Sarene I was about to say the same thing, actually.
That the cause of Gaster's death, his "experiment failure" the people of Undertale were talking about was Chara.
But your statements, made it clearer; about how Chara killed Gaster.
I was just wondering the point of his reappearance inside the mystery door in Waterfall.
Did he want to avenge himself? Warning Chara that he won't get away for everything he's done?
I believe that Chara in the genocide run, they got corrupt. When frisk started killing, they thought that you where looking for power. But it wasn't they're fault. They say "you pushed everything to its edge" Chara had no part in that. And if you do a second genocide route, they tell you to do a pacifist route! I don't think that Chara is the true villain of UNDERTALE. But one question I must ask is, does UNDERTALE really need a villain???
Ziccronwarrior Well..to explain short...the true villain is YOU. The Player.
to HEHE I STILL AM A SUPAHSTA NOT-SO-MEMER, flowey even says that the only villain left the one that can erase everything, is you/the player and then flowery says something about let frisk live there life on the surface. so yep the player is a villain
The closest thing to a villain that the game itself suggests would be the anomaly. The player.
I know this was an old video, and other facts and theories have risen over Chara’s actions and feelings. Maybe a sequel to this video covering more info? Completely up to you tho.
I would add that in the genocide run, Chara possesses Frisk. if you look into a mirror in Toriel's house after Clearing the ruins of everyone but toriel, instead of saying "It's You!" it says, "It's me, Chara."
also while equpping that heart shaped locket, it says "Right where it belongs," in the genocide run
+Joseph Sorbello and there are lots of other texts from chara in red in the new home
Yeah, but if that were the case, who do you think was the narrator in the other contexts?
+dragonvale19 frisk's internal monologue
djt08031996 ..... (it's chara) >:0
I really don't like Chara.
She's way too arrogant for someone who knows the existence of a Player.
The Player, in this game at least, is God, we can kill everyone, we can save everyone, happy endings, bad endings, It's Our Choice no doubt about it!
And even then!
This Brat comes and says: "Howdy! I'm a Demon I was the one guiding all your actions blablabla, gimme your sou-"
Y O U I D I O T .
T H I S W O R L D E X I S T F O R M Y E N T E R T A I N M E N T .
I C O U L D E A S I L Y E R A S E Y O U R M E M O R Y , M E S S I N G W I T H T H E G A M E F I L E S .
I mean, if there's a real demon in this game, it's not Chara at all, it's US.
We could replace her sprite face with a sprite ASS and she wouldn't even notice xD
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Fucking Jumpscares...
But dog is god spelled backwards which is also why Toby being the annoying dog is brilliant.
ever tried replacing sprite chara with sprite boobs?
+No One's Important *they, not she.
Ner0mancer i thought it was already confirmed that chara's a she?
Blue Screen Rounds + Gunslinger with Faceoff
The sheer insanity of Infinite Ammo Pistol
I dont care if Chara's a demon, still favourite character.
Watch who is the true villain of Undertale by judgement boy
Temmie universe i did and its bullshit. Cause Chara is love, Chara is life
Chara is shit.
PAPYRUS FOREVER!
John Erlwanger Hmm... How Curious... You must have misunderstood. SINCE WHEN DID YOU DECIDE WHO THE BEST CHARACTER IS.
ayyyyy chara's my favorite too
Here are all the awnsers that are pretty accurate!
Chara was probably like 10 at the time she and Asriel baked the pie for Asgore they mistaked butter for buttercups and accidentally poisoned Asgore then Chara was laughing to laugh away the pain of sadness also the player YOU are the one who is killing everyone not Chara. Chara loved the Dreemurrs they where her family and Chara fell down Mt.Ebott to commit suicide because the humans abused her that's how Chara hates humans. Also Chara goes quiet when battling Toriel and Asgore in the genocide run.
There you go all the awnsers your welcome.
CHARA CHARA CHARA CHARA CHARA!!!.... umm...where Is chara?
Kim Greenock here I am...heh
N.A.T.O Allience ok
Kim Greenock IM HERE
You encounter her at the end of genocide
Kim Greenock im here
Can you do some kind of theory about Mettaton?
+SuperOkega Whether or not he left the Underground after the game, things about his corporeal form, etc... I've thought of a lot of weird theories on him.
I'm aware as to who made his corporeal form, just maybe more on how the hell it even works. Like that if that pink goo in her lab is connected at all, or hell, even more on his 'calculator' form. :v
I'm saying to get creative. I've thought of plenty of theories, like I said.
+sonicawesomeness Whit determitation, okno :v
It's just a game xD
+Alejo Tassile I know it is...? I never said it wasn't? lol
+sonicawesomeness - Funny you should bring this up... I may have started laying down the groundwork for a Mettaton video last weekend. I've been excited to do it for a while since Mettaton is such an amazing character. It should probably come out sometime mid-January. Cheers!
Someone mentioned to me that back in the past, villagers used to banish children with mental issues to mountains to die on their own. If Chara had a mental issue, it would explain why she was banished to the mountain. It would also explain why she would hate humanity. She herself was hated because she was born different. If I were her, I would hate humanity and want to watch it burn too.
*that might be true
So... Every single time I spare a monster and in return I earn 2 or 3 Gold, that's Chara's awakening... Interesting.
Technically, you ARE an influence to Chara.
*the demon that comes when people call its name*
me: ok! CHARA *walks all over my house* CHARA COME OUT COME OUT WHERE EVER YOU ARE
Heeey! I'm heere!
@@shhsjszu WANNA HAVE A BAD TIME?
@@fluffyboisquad7477 -_-
@@shhsjszu R U Frisk or chara
I honestly don't think Chara was inheritantly evil. I think Chara was influenced by what path the player chose; genocide run obviously being very traumatic to a young child. There are some in the community who believe Chara "fell" into the underground to take their own life originally but when Asgore and Chara fall ill and Chara dies, Chara sees how cruel humanity really is and starts to harbor a hatred for them for harming their brother and best friend, Asriel. This is just what I believe though.
I have the answer!!
Toby fox!
no toby fox is the annoying sog
+Domino PlayGames and the person who made undertale
+Jamie Hyland yup. ....
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now that comment makes sense! I though that you meant somethingn else
+Domino PlayGames lol
+Jamie Hyland toby made undertale by accident, he had bark-to-speech on, and I'm not lying there's an easter egg in the game
It's my personal belief that Chara was NOT the villain of Undertale. They weren't a villain at all. They were a child, an _impressionable_ child.
When you first start a game, you, the Player, have a choice.
You can choose to be a pacifist, and refuse to hurt anyone, even if it means your character will die multiple times.
You can choose to protect your character even if it means killing in self-defense (Neutral).
Or, you can choose to actively seek to murder every single monster you can in order to gain power (Genocide).
Frisk doesn't choose this.
_You_ do.
Chara's spirit is there when you make that choice.
Since we know human souls linger after they've died, it's a logical conclusion to make that Chara would be nearby when another human falls into the underground. While we don't have any factual evidence that a human soul can speak to anyone, we _do_ have evidence that they can affect other beings, since that's the reason why Omega Flowey is defeated in the Pacifist route.
This leads me to believe that Chara actually can speak to Frisk, especially with the theory that the two of them share the same Soul Trait: Determination, which is cemented by the red heart--or soul-- in the True Lab. The only thing I can see interfering with this, is that their soul is _in the lab_ so maybe it's their...essence? That's talking to Frisk throughout their adventure? Still working out the bugs on that one, to be honest.
So, Chara is there from the beginning, and I believe that they are the Narrator.
Keeping this in mind, when you make the choice to do the Genocide run, they are influenced by the Player.
Chara was never the villain.
Far from it, actually. They may have harbored a hatred for humanity, but that's the only thing that was wrong with them. They gave their life, sacrificed themselves in a selfless, heroic act to save monsterkind, because in their young mind, they were the only one who could do it.
Another human may fall into the underground, but would more likely refuse to give up their soul. Chara's reasons for falling were canonically unhappy. They were, very likely, suicidal in the first place.
They had given up on life from the start, and they were just happy to have a family that loved them at all.
They were the best candidate, in their mind, because they were supposed to die that day anyway, and their hatred for other humans would make it easier for them to take the souls needed to free the people they loved.
Chara was a good kid. Flawed, like any other, but still had a _good heart._
You chose to kill.
You believed that it was okay to do that. And in doing so, _you taught Chara, an _*_impressionable child_*_ that killing is okay._
You taught them that nothing else matters, besides power.
You.
You created a demon from the soul of a child.
You are the villain in the Genocide route.
shes not the bad guy in undertale
frisk is
No we are
technically we are frisk
+The bigE i guess
+Michael Hauser why?
Maybe Chara isn't as bad as we thought. Maybe Chara's just misunderstood...
like handsome jack?
like handsome jack?
Sligneris Okay, I'll try to not do it again. 'twas a joke though.
lol nope he was definitely evil as hell
Mohammed Aouiniya It was Sarcasm.
Theory:
Charas evil soul and Asriel's good soul are both in Flowey, fused. Asriel's soul has most control over the forms that Flowey takes, but Charas evilness has infected Asriel. By using the souls to break the barrier, one soul has to be destroyed right? What if Asriel destroyed Charas part of the soul? What if flowey isn't so evil anymore? By taking the genocide route, you destroy Asriel, and release Chara. By taking the pacifist route, you destroy Chara, and turn Asriel good again.
Wrong.
Flowey is JUST Asriel's soul. Asriel's compassion is gone though.
"As a flower, I lacked compassion." - Asriel
Well shit.... My theory just went out the window.
Also wouldn't flowery not have to see Asgor to show him the souls, as he could've just gone through and killed them
+Señor Jecansu
Flowey doesn't have a SOUL.
It was a short thaught theory.... Oh well.
I feel bad for chara. she fell into the underground to end their awful life, and ended up finding a family instead. they gave their life in one of the most painful methods, poisoning themselves with buttercups, just so they could save all monsters. they didn't go to the surface to kill all humans, they went to get six souls. and when asriel was being attacked, they told him to fight back. now they're the villain of the story. Chara may have some mental issues from her time on the surface, but I don't think they were ever evil. They only become evil when they are forced to. they are a servant to the player, and they assist you no matter what path you choose. even if it means having to watch you destroy their former friends and family.
You know characters in undertale sometimes laugh when there sad
Most of them are because of other reasons
I'm tired of judgment boy's shitty theory
>chara is mistreated on the surface, tries to attempt suicide
>gets depressed again, after accidentally poisoning Asgore, but laughs because they now realize they can use it on themself
>uses poison on self gets sick and dies
>charas soul is angered and in pain even in death, it becomes more corrupted as time goes on.
chara isn't evil. just flawed. evil is the player who decides to take the genocide route themselves and blame it on chara.
+FletchSmoothTalkerofTriage true xD
"Why did chara hated humanity?" oh cmon! its simple. look at all these wars we humans created. we toture animals, destroy our own world. we humans are selfish.
Well that's just in real life in undertale there is no proof that humans are like that soooo yeah chara is still evil
Laura The Glitch well I hate humans too so me and chara are the same
Asriel Dreemuur You're a psychopath
Jaden Stewart Haha
No
psy·cho·path
ˈsīkəˌpaTH/Submit
noun
a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior.
synonyms: madman, madwoman, maniac, lunatic, psychotic, sociopath; More
informal
an unstable and aggressive person.
"schoolyard psychopaths will gather around a fight to encourage the combatants"
Electro Hipster Hating humans can encourage violent behavior lol dumbass
“Lol I wanna watch this”
Frick. Not another one.
6:37 the answer is D: Toby fox
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witherblaze should be everyone or humans because asriel said chara hates humanity
When it said Chara laughed it off, she/he was laughing away the pain, cause toriel laughed when you killed her, sans tell jokes even tho he is depressed...
I'm super depressed!
Yeah people should know that Chara isn’t evil
Ok........this video is off BECAUSE Chara isn't the evil character you are depending on you choose!One example of that is in the Genocide rout in the end,Chara say thank you for showing me the right choices (idk it's been awhile since I've played the game) and ask you if you want to delete this world.BUT with the Pacifist rout she is happy and more like Frisk.If you disagree watch: The Truth Behind Chara
in the pacifist ending she don't appear
you as a player are responsible for the genocide run.
+Chara Dreemur YES
+Chara Dreemur wait............Hi Chara :3
ayo
meaning of Chara
Chara is an English feminine given name that is a diminutive form of Charlotte as well as an alternate form of Cara and Kara from the Latin cārus meaning “darling, beloved, dear, loved one”. Chara is also a Spanish feminine given name as an alternate form for Sarah.
The only reason chara kills is for chocolate
She/he just wanted good high standard
Nice chocolate it's obviously dhuuuuu
*this is a chocolate robbery*
aww here have a chocolate kid
*i said every chocolate*
aww he’s so cute,here is another chocolate
*HAND OVER THE CHOCOLATE OR DIE*
O-O
One answer, Chara hates humanity because they trapped the monsters underground. Thats why..
Thats actually a very good point
Heres mine
Chara is the first human of course, and people think she is evil right? Partly
Chara only hates human, but not monsters, cause she loves them.
If she hated monsters, then she wouldn't like Frisk taking a pacifist run, and liked frisk taking genocide.
Also, in the spooky chara appearance, she said she reincarnated
who did she reincarnate as?
Frisk
Thats why Chara is named Chara, Toby fox named him over that as a generic name
Thats why her name is pronounced 'Kara' in 'character' The character... you're playing as Chara in frisk's body
also, it was never shown that frisk climbed mount ebott, Frisk didn't climb mount ebott, Chara reincarnated in the flowers
but how did she get there? Wasn't chara in the dreemur's home? well, flowey said its because of...
Determination
Also, when undyne makes frisk fall, which memory does frisk remember?
Chara's memory
What happens at the end of the genocide run?
Chara takes over frisk
That also explains the used bandage frisk gets
Also, when you name the fallen human, you ARE naming yourself, you are playing as... Chara
Why else would Toby fox make you name someone that you can't meet until a specific run?
Credits for my thought goes to Leviticus's video "Frisk's SECRET Identity"
TheGamerCreeper399 Good point, and THANKS!
+TheGamerCreeper399 no they called chara because she is a CHARA-cter
Sam with tiny box Tim you write he said so
+Yanil Garcia 😂pfff CHARA-cter
A quote from a tweet by Toby that was later deleted:
“Some people say "What am I supposed to name the fallen child?"
Your own name.”
But then in a reply he told someone that naming the fallen human after their cat was fine, soooo
In the genocide run chara says since when were you the one in control not referring to you but to frisk assuming that frisk was the only one who could have made that decision
Chara actually means "since when were you the one in control of me"
@@TheEmeraldCreeper uh no they didn't choose genocide or Pacifist so yes you are in control of them
@@CALndStuff you're in control of Frisk,
Chara is the Ghost Narrator who follows you and watches in sadness as The Player Kills their Family and Friends!
Do you know what thing you will do to piss chara off?
STEALING HER CHOCOLATE =)
how did you get all those sprites for chara if she only has one sprite?
+Hubaduba Tron - I'm a pretty avid spriter, so I made them all myself. I used to make a lot of RPG assets, so it was right up my alley.
+SwankyBox oooh ok
+Hubaduba Tron She has 6 Sprites:
1. Chara regular smiley face
2. Chara with wide eyes
3. Chara horrifying laugh 1
4. Chara horrifying laugh 2
5. Chara horrifying laugh 3
6. Chara smiley face with red eyes
(If those are considered sprites)
ITS CAKLED EDITING FYCKING LOkED IT UP
***** Well, these guys call it a she, so I did the same
I feel like the first time he fell in, it was a suicide attempt. He landed, and all that stuff happened, but Chara could have realized something. He could have remembered why he threw himself into the cave to try and kill himself and realized how strong monsters were compared to humans, especially in his time since there aren't wizards and warriors anymore. Chara, realizing he can get revenge on all the people who bullied him, hatches a plan for revenge with Asriel. Chara poisons himself and lets Asriel absorb his soul to cross the barrier, from there, he would take over his body and destroy humanity for what it did to him. However, what he did not account for would be Asriel's soul. Asriel was filled with determination, making him immune to the corruption of human souls. Because of this, Chara is trapped soulless and memoryless on the surface after waking up on the flowers. Chara returns home to a new family and new name... Frisk. Frisk goes up to the mountain, looking for flowers to give their mom, and trips into the underground once again. The reason I say that Chara lost his memories is because Asriel's soul was lost inside Flowey, making him forget everyone and everything. For the genocide route, Chara seeks revenge on the monsters for being filled with determination and not letting him destroy humanity, and in doing so, grows stronger and stronger with more souls he absorbs, eventually resulting in the destruction of everyone and everything. In the pacifist playthrough, Chara embraces Frisk as his new self and seeks to forgive everyone, and is then filled with determination, making him finally whole.
Chara and frisk have no gender, and thus go by they/them.
+ZarolTheFlame Chara has the gender of the player.
+ZarolTheFlame I just used gender words because I'm lazy and I noticed it half way through.
+D3th10rd You would make sans happy
+ZarolTheFlame to me chara sounds like a girl name and frisk a boy name
me: love
every undertale youtuber:love
swanky box:level
I haven't watched the video yet, but I believe chara isn't evil
when you think about it, the whole plan with the monster and human soul, if chara really was evil, they'd just kill asriel and take the soul for themselves. Also, I believe i make a pretty good point when i say that they watched asgore in pain, and some of you may say, "Well Asriel says "I should've just laughed off like she did", so HA!" but in undertale, laughing is shown as away of dealing with negative emotions, so Chara wasn't laughing at asgore, but she was dealing with seeing him go through it. Lastly, After chara sees this, she eats the buttercups used in the pie that made asgore ill, putting her through that would cause chara to salivate and her mouth
to become inflamed. Pains in the stomach and constrictions happen right
before she dies. she put herself through all of this, just so the monsters could get through the barrier. If you say that Chara is not a hero, then, well, you're probably wrong
When i said go t hrough it i meant go through the pain
I believe you buddy. I believe Chara was just influenced by the human who fell down and started attacking everything that they saw, and decided to just follow that human around, or they didn't have a choice.
And then they were later influenced by their choice and became a bit, unstable. She even goes silent during some battles in the genocide route (and the others routes, I think).
Wow, i didn't even notice that, and thanks for a greeing
If Chara wasn't evil (or at least not a bad person) before the genocide run then how does that explain what Asriel says about them at the end of the true pacifist run?
+TheCrocodileWithSunglasses *shrug*
"But Asriel refused."
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyy
1:31 he say charmander but it says charzard in the sub titles
Chara is the human that came before you,possibly dying and going crazy when reaching the underground.
She did die you find that out after the end of a genocide run untill you brought her back to life
The opening cutscene is Chara not Frisk.
The person doesn't land on flowers and has 1 stripe not 2.
chara why don't you come i am calling u
“The demon that comes when people call it’s name... when you figure out how”
Chara? Chaira? Kara? Kaira? Shara?
(I think it’s supposed to be Kaira cause character but I say Kara cause it sounds pretty lol)
Yeah I think it’s pronounced Kara
No Its spelt chara so it’s pronounced chara
Chara wanted to die but got a family who was endangered by her and her species and she goes crazy.
“it often leads us scratching our heads”
We have lice now?
Hi temmie
HOI WELCOME TO TEM VILLAGE YAYA GO TO TEM SHOP (Or else)
2:40 that's becuse chara is laughing away the pain of there father being sick
yep! infact thats a common thing in monsters, when you kill one, they laugh because in the wiki it states something for monsters say "Laughter Hides The Pain".(also sans tells puns even though hes depressed)
Hey what should I pronounce Chara?
1.Care-a
2.Kar-a
3.Sha-ra
4.Share-ra
Which??
+ichiro thepvongsa like chara-cter
Shara
I pronounce it like 2. But I'm French so I don't think I can give you advice.
+ichiro thepvongsa I pronounce it ike Care-a
K-ara
Watching this again and comparing Chara's story with Kris' story (From DELTARUNE Chapter 1) made me think some interesting thoughts:
1. It has been speculated that the Dark World in DELTARUNE is shaped by Kris' imagination, at least in part. Perhaps the whole Underground and all the Monsters were also created by Chara's imagination, desire to have a family of people that cared about them and/or to gain superpowers to get revenge on the humans they hate.
2. If Chara's thoughts shaped the Underground in some way, maybe that helps to explain why they came to know about the stat mechanics and say that they are tied to the very process gaining them.
3. This would also help the "Narrator Chara" theory, since they would be easily able to explain anything in the Underground to Frisk, since everything inside it comes from mind.
Anyways speaking about Gaster: Some time ago me and my friend were talking about Sans and Gaster and their connections so after a bit of talk he said: "People call Sans the shadow of Gaster" Me: "Yeah, cause they have some similarities... Wait hold the damn phone, what if Sans IS Gaster... He see's through the timelines... Like Gaster, he has GASTER blasters, he is very aware of everything going on around him... What if Sans is somehow being controlled by Gaster" I mean think about it: Sans is kinda lazy and likes making puns, but then there is the teleporting/timeline seeing/making people die 100 times side of him that doesn't really seem to fit in with the rest... What if he's actually being controlled a bit just so he can stop any bad things from happening. We have not really got any clue about Gaster but surely he isn't like Flowey/Chara with the wanting to kill the FUCKING TIMELINES!!!... And in the end like Sans, he always seems to be watching you...
Ok
WackyWavingInflatableArmFlailingTubeMan thanks for saying: "Ok" randomly to my comment :D
Sir Goldenblade Ok
+Sir Goldenblade Actually I had a similar theory... but what if Papyrus was originally Gaster and Sans was his main assistant. He and a team of top scientists were working on a way to use Determination to go back to before the war and prevent it... there is a horrible accident that ends up killing the team and leaves Gaster/Papyrus in a blank memoryless state.
Sans decides it would be best to retire to Snowden and uses what notes gaster/papyrus left in a attempt to fix things and fix and finish the machine. Over time it becomes aparent that he just cant do it and gives up. Ultimately deciding to make the best of things and move on. All the while giving his brother a happy carefree life filled with childlike ambition while keeping a watchful eye on him.
Basically it would still jive with the whole "gaster fell into his machine and was scatted to the far reaches of the game" thing. It wasn't his physical body but his personification itself. Basically... he RESET himself instead of the world. This would also explain Sans knowledge of the game mechanics, a awareness of timeline changes, and his weaponry. It was leftover's from his time as his brothers/Gasters assistant. :D
***** Not hating on your theory or anything but usually brothers understand each other more and Sans PROBABLY (maybe not but still) would have had quite a bit of understanding about the machine... Since well Papyrus annoys enough people as it is imagine if he talked about science that way ;_;... xD but anyway still a nice theory just doesn't seem like Papyrus might be any kind of scientist to me... Then again that explains your reset personality part xD
When you play a game, any game, you are Chara. You kill, you gain, and that's the game you play. Because you as the player kill so easily because you know the people you are killing have no real feelings, no soul, you become Chara; Just someone playing around in a game they can toy around in, just like Flowey. When you are doing the pacifist/neutral route (or whatever the route you wanted to do the first time around), you are putting the soul of you, the player, into Frisk. You act the same way you would if you were Frisk them self. Frisk, however, is NOT a human. The only reason why they are assumed to be human is because you, the player, are human. The monster souls represent characters in a game. They are weak because although they have some meaning to the player, the player knows that none of the characters are real, and the game is in the end a sandbox for the player to mess around in. The thing about Undertale is the surface is reality. When a human fell down into the underground, it was your character, Frisk, the one you control, being given a physical form. Frisk has such a blank expression all the time because they do not feel anything, as they are not even human. During the Sans fight, he mentions Frisk's expression, and is able to read it. That's because Sans sees YOU. The player. Flowey is able to do this, too, at least he is aware of it. He says "I bet someone like that is watching right now, aren't they?" hinting at the presence of the player. He knows you exist, since he speaks directly to you. Also, Chara has that smile on her face because they do have a soul. They are able to have/feel expression, as Toby Fox intended for that to be a part of the game. Chara's smile indicates that they were a player that actually fell into the game. The player, however, still had the ability to save and load. I would go on, but gosh, I need to stop at some point. Any thoughts?
+IntelGameZ Makes sense to me
+IntelGameZ Its also meant for you to put your name in when naming Chara. But we need to consider Charas existence from two different perspectives: both as a metaphorical device and as a character within the fictional 'sandbox'. From a metaphorical standpoint I feel that Chara like flowery could be thought of as a manifestation of the Buddhist concept of attachment. There is no love, no enjoyment, just predictable lines of text that nurture a heartless indifference. Your soulless MC who continues to run the false pacifist ending is the ultimate result. This is why after the true pacifist ending Flowery begs you to stop, not give in to the power that you have been fighting all along, this soulless attachment. From an in-game point of view my theory is that we should continue with the Buddhists theme and focus on the word 'reincarnation'. Every time you see a game over screen your MC sees Charas last memories and when you fall in the trash zone your MC relives Charas fall into the underground. In world I believe that Frisk is Charas reincarnation and that this connection to the underground from his past life might have been what drew him there in the first place. Perhaps it was what drew all the children there. In waterfall it's mentioned that the barrier was constructed by seven human mages. But in that case, in-world what is possessing Fisk? One thought could be that Frisk reverts to his personality from his previous life, but I don't think Char was as much a horrific evil as he was in the genocide run when he was alive or he would have just killed the monsters then. No I think that like flowery the Chara we meet in the genocide run is a soulless essence left behind by Charts corpse buried under the flowered you fall on. Like Flowery your souls enormous DETERMINATION animates him within frisks body instead of inside a flower and that on every run Frisk fights against his influence as you play. The Level of Violence you gain as you kill monsters is Charas influence slowly warping Fisk into something inhumane. This is all my interpretation and could be 100 percent incorrect but I do feel that Chara needs to be examined as both an in game Character and a reference to part of the one controlling the CHARActer.
Joel Sasmad I see what you are saying there, but here's a theory: What if Frisk isn't human? What if they are what they are in reality; A 2d sprite that you control. That's why Chara can posses Frisk, but only in the genocide route. This is so because in the pacifist or a friendly neutral route, you as the player are acting like these characters are real. That's why some people cry at the end of Undertale. However, once you do the genocide route, you know that all the characters are purely fictional. You don't treat these characters as living things; Only as pawns in the game you control. In the genocide route, Chara is just the in-game representation of the loss of one's ability to treat characters as real people. Eventually, as you kill more and more, Chara, your ability to kill characters without any serious concern, becomes more & more powerful. This applies to any game where you can kill things, not just Undertale. Take games like Fallout 4 or Dishonored for example; When you kill someone in those games, you don't have that sense of "Oh my god, what have I done! I just killed someone!!!" That you would get if you took someone's life in reality. That's what Chara is; Your Character. The one that you control (thus having no soul) and the one that carries out the act of killing without feeling ANYTHING. They are just a sprite, so they don't care if you kill. The only reason why you can end the genocide route at (almost) any moment is because you, the player, can still say "Hey, this is wrong! I have to stop killing these guys!" And Chara can't stop you. Once you complete the genocide route, though, Chara's in charge now. You have fully committed to murder, and you have basically reached a point of no return; You killed every monster in the underground, and if you were able to keep playing to be able to kill the shopkeepers, you wouldn't hesitate to do so. That's why Chara can take over; They would do the same as you if you were to keep going, so you are no longer needed in that world. Hence Chara, being that she is actually a force within the game, can crash your game, delete saves, basically run the game themself. And once that happens, there's no going back; You have fully become Chara.
+IntelGameZ i read all of these your both 50% correct im guessing we could only know if we talked with toby fox
well the comment below me I strongly feel is correct but there is no way of knowing I went back to when chara was trying to commit suicide it just shows that the way most adults make children feel is powerless imagine you are brought into a mysterious new place and have so many questions but the more you ask the more you get told to shut up or when you become quriouse and want to try new things you are told to follow tradition and since they are older than you there is nothing you can do about it you realise the flaws in the society and are too weak to OK correct it or fight back so living becomes kinda pointless it's just to grow and do the same to other kids that's why I find my teachers so annoying the forget how it feels to be under powered to be so afraid to ask a question in fear of the teacher hitting you ( in Africa BTW I heard Americans aren't aloud to get hit with a stick on the bum or get clapped in the face for failing to answer a question correctly ) what I am trying to say is that chara depicts how children feel when trying to reason with adults it's because adults don't see the error in their ways but you can't really blame them it's just what their parents did to them so they just copy it it's what their grandparents showed their parents and so on they get so used to being mistreated ( or as my parents call it being respecting your elders ) that even though the child's ideas might make a difference they won't listen and by doing so they are taking away the child's right to have a say
dear God I had lots of time
I NOTICED THAT ONE PART OF CHARA HATE EYE IS GASTERS EYE UPSIDE DOWN