That's the one thing that I think football lacks, in regards to all of the other sports. Football doesn't really have a signature sound. Basketball has the swish of the nets. Even hitting the rim is still basketball. Baseball has bat contact, even the sliding sound. Hockey, tennis, golf all have signature sounds. Football doesn't really have one. Totally agree though. The sound of bat to ball never gets old, but esp with wood.
@@mrsain19The sound of men slamming into eachother at full speed in pads akin to armor. The loud "clack" sound that you hear when there's big contact is iconic. The Quarterbacks cadences, although all different, sound like a general giving commands. The roar of the crowd when the home team scores. The boos when the referee announces the ruling of a call against the home team. The sound of the football leaving the kickers foot. The whistle that blows the play dead. The sound of cleats on hard ground as you walk to the field. Football has a lot of sounds - even though that's kind of a strange way to compare sports. Lol
Not all long time follower to this page, but I want to express my thanks for your enthusiasm, I am a bit of an amateur audio editor and I am always finding things to train myself on, listening to your videos and watching them has helped me hone my skills, getting the best sound from the crack of the bat. Not only is a thrill for me as someone who's trying to train up a skill, but as a baseball fan. There is nothing like it. Thank you guys for your skills. I enjoy them very much.
Been working on the art of cupping myself. There's issues with endcap durability and chipped bats that I'm looking to alleviate, but cupping is still an effective method of bat modification. It's like a legal version is corking. The mlb has reduced the allowed depth of cupping over the years, but it's still an open variable. Cupping reduces volume slightly to increase density by a roughly 1-2%. This isn't a dramatic difference in terms of power, however in terms of bat flex and durability, it is a neat benefit. It does bring back the balance point of a bat without changing the MOI or sweet spot LOCATION too much so the swing weight feels better without losing as much power as a different uncupped turn model of equal swing weight. That's the main argument that players have, if cupping is there to make a bat more balanced, why not just get a more balanced bat? Of which mass distribution is the answer as to why it's effective. Logically, you get an uncupped turn model, saw off like .5 inches from the end and it'll have the same amount of mass removed from the end, but the MOI and sweet spot location is now in a totally different area. That's why with wood, trial and experimentation is the best way to get your personal gamer
To my understanding, cupped bats are denser because with the reduced weight of the cupping, they can balance with denser wood. This should result in faster velos, as the bat aborbs less of the impact and instead redirects more of it back into the ball. However, uncupped in end loaded and drives the ball farther. It’s a perfect difference of contact hitter vs power hitter
How could a bat with better exit velos not go as far? I’m not questioning your idea on bat density, but would that just mean cupped bats are better because they are lighter and hit the ball harder/farther.
@@dominicteneriello9977 Cupped bats aren't considered "better", it's mostly about what you can control better. For instance, guys who swing the heavy power hitter bats like Vlady Jr are able to control the bat even though its a heavy end loaded uncupped 243 variant and he is so strong he of course still gets really high exit velos because hes just damn strong. However, you got a player like Matt Chapman who is considered a versatile hitter in my opinion he swings a cupped C271L. Not necessarily a power hitter bat, but he swings it so fast and has so much control with his bat and he has enough strength to generate enough power from it and also get higher exit velocity because the wood is strong enough even with a smaller sweet spot. If that same hitter tried to swing a heavier bat, he still might hit a home run but he would have probably lower exit velocity, slower bat speed and probably less bat control. Now there does have to be a balance of course, you can't get good exit velo or distance if you are using a very very light bat because there isn't enough mass to get behind the ball. You will have to fight and almost push the barrel through the zone vs letting there be some mass to help you out once you get to the ball. I feel like I made it more confusing for you, but oh well.
@@Dr.MalcomsBrokenLeg ok that makes sense, vlad, judge, and Stanton seem to have uppers 70s low 80s bat speed, along with a heavier bat. That gives them more power, so to simplify it, swing the heaviest bat that gives you mid 70s bat speed, or if your Arron judge swing a 35 inch bat faster than people swing 33.5s. And the cupping is used to increase a bit of mass instead of having to go up an entire inch or half inch of bat, while adding power.
@@dominicteneriello9977 In short yeah, for instance I went back and forth between a 110 and T141 both maple and both were cupped 33inches & 30.5 ounces. Hardest ball I ever hit was about 101 and that was with the 141 model. But, I really reared into that one. Otherwise, I averaged about 97ish with both bats. In terms of the numbers though dude, don't let them get on your mind too much. If you hit homeruns or get clean peppered base hits. No one cares how hard they were hit. Focus on what you can swing without sacrificing your ability to control the bat and have good barrel control. Rest is all mechanics and doing what you need to do to be productive.
Bro I cannot believe it took me so long to realize will wears like 300-700 dollar shoes for some of the vids like it's truly amazing how far you've come and also, u have some good taste in shoes lmao
YES another great video PERFECT. This might be my favorite channel of all. Especially because I am a baseball player in middle school. I play at this same spot
@@baseballbatbrosYou dang welcome! I am literally serious when I say I play here. Where are you guys from? I am such a big fan I love playing baseball! #baseballbatbros(best youtube channel) :)
I love it when you swing wood bats in this field, it's a beautiful experience for my ears. I would love to buy this bat but it doesn't show up in their store sadly :c
This is really interesting. Thank you guys for making this one! I've been curious about this myself. I've found that on my company's bats, the deeper the cup the smaller the sweet spot, regardless of turn model. Reducing weight with a deeper cup may help create balance and increase swing speed, but potentially at the cost of a smaller sweet spot. Another thing that may be interesting to test/measure would be the impact that different shapes and depths of cups would have on the performance and feel of different turn models and types of woods. Spherical-shaped cups (like the one in this vid) may create different results than more cylindrical-shaped cups, such as those from Sambat or MAXbat. Probably very subtle differences, but may be interesting to test out! Thanks again guys, looking forward to your next wood bat video!
I actually have done research on this. I know we were suppose to speak before, sorry i haven't had time to coordinate this, but let's actually do it this time lol Where do you like to connect most often?
That sound!!! Uncupped for the big hosses or guys that are just country strong. Seemed like you guys kind of revved up the velo on the BP pitches. Things starting to get green in Oregon...spring has arrived!!
Personally, I think the T141 & MT27 models are a perfect versatile bat. Swung a 110 & T141 both cupped 33/30.5's and I really enjoyed them both. But, I would get the T141 today with a knob like the one you guys had on this one. Wasn't available to me back then, wish it was!
Just picked up a Prairie Stick birch 271(equivalent) 33.5, -2 uncupped bat. Looking forward to the first hacks with it. Would love to see you guys do a review
Since you’re doing stuff like cupped and uncupped, you guys should get both versions of the old hickory mt27, the steel pressed and non steel pressed. Very curious to see which is better considering a roughly $40 price difference
i personally like Chandlers option of having a Kiss cup , where literally only a small amount is taken out at the end of the barrel but it still feels like a uncupped bat as far as how solid it hits.
When I went to Cooperstown back in the 90's all players who hit five hundred or more homers used uncupped bats. I know the purpose of cupped bats, but I'm just old school.
id suggest if you want to get it cupped then go for a 33.5/30.5 i13 model. if you want to get it uncupped then i suggest going for a 33/30 110 or 271 model
I swing a 33/30 uncupped 271 Yellow Birch bat and love it :) I hit a screaming line drive yesterday, but right back at the pitcher lol. Sucks, but I loved the contact, didn't feel anything.
@@paul-baseballcollector. i swing a C243 KR3 Maple and its solid, but i find having the cup on the 33/30 to have a bit less barrel than i'd like. for my next bat id like to go birch and a bit longer with the cup still
@@baileysmith4744 I've heard bad reviews about KR3 bats and their wood not being solid. I live in Québec, Canada and we have one well-known company here named B45 (Bros tested the B13c) and two other: Märk Lumber (a bunch of Minor Leaguers swing them) and TBF (which is what I swing, their bats are as good as B45 but much cheaper. Nobody knows this company much, very underrated). We have very cold winters here in Québec, so the wood is the hardest it can be! Above the 45th parallel No intent to brag haha
@@paul-baseballcollector. B45 is big league birch wood, and Mark Lumber is solid. KR3 are great bats but they are mainly known for wood composite maple. their bats can be hit or miss, but the best bats are honestly incredible. ive heard mixed reviews about them but one thing i heard consistently was they are durable and have a great swing weight for a 243 model, and the barrels can be hot if you get a good one
Also, the 110 composite one is practically a C271 with a sort of half cup, idk if it was intended to be like that, but I'm not complaining because I love my Trinity CS271's that are uncupped 👍🏻
@@baseballbatbros would definitely be even more 🔥 uncupped, but the cup on it already is pretty small and shallow. idk if it differs from bat to bat, but it's a lot smaller of a cup than the one on the 243.
I wondered when you would start putting a grip on a wood bat! So many big leaguers are doing it now. When did you start? I've never seen it in any previous video.
You guys need a scale to weigh your wood bats. I weighed mine and they tend to be well over an ounce heavier than marked, often 2+ ounces. I swing a 34 inch bat, so it can pretty annoying when you buy a bat that’s supposed to be a drop 2 when in fact it’s a drop .5, if even that.
Love the kids in the background going "ohh", "aww", just like they are watching fireworks. Great video, Rock on man.
My favorite part of the video. I remember being a kid and watching adults hitting tanks and being amazed. Awesome video guys!
I was 1 of the kids in the back round
@@jamesonhall2086 Sounded like you all where having a blast.
So great...like a group of kids talking with Babe Ruth on the streets of NY, everyone loving the game.
There’s no other better sound like a wood bat making solid contact with a baseball
I absolutely love it
That's the one thing that I think football lacks, in regards to all of the other sports. Football doesn't really have a signature sound. Basketball has the swish of the nets. Even hitting the rim is still basketball. Baseball has bat contact, even the sliding sound. Hockey, tennis, golf all have signature sounds. Football doesn't really have one.
Totally agree though. The sound of bat to ball never gets old, but esp with wood.
@@mrsain19The sound of men slamming into eachother at full speed in pads akin to armor. The loud "clack" sound that you hear when there's big contact is iconic. The Quarterbacks cadences, although all different, sound like a general giving commands. The roar of the crowd when the home team scores. The boos when the referee announces the ruling of a call against the home team. The sound of the football leaving the kickers foot. The whistle that blows the play dead. The sound of cleats on hard ground as you walk to the field.
Football has a lot of sounds - even though that's kind of a strange way to compare sports. Lol
Pure joy watching The Bros work 💪
How can I purchase this RH7 Cupped bat?
@@eliasmiranda5637 Request this model in Additional Notes
yall legends
loving the new camera angles would love to see one on the mound as well!
Yall the ones that keep me entertained in this time, thank you for this wonderful content!!!
for real my guy
Absolute nukes! You guys are on another level.
Not all long time follower to this page, but I want to express my thanks for your enthusiasm, I am a bit of an amateur audio editor and I am always finding things to train myself on, listening to your videos and watching them has helped me hone my skills, getting the best sound from the crack of the bat. Not only is a thrill for me as someone who's trying to train up a skill, but as a baseball fan. There is nothing like it. Thank you guys for your skills. I enjoy them very much.
Been working on the art of cupping myself. There's issues with endcap durability and chipped bats that I'm looking to alleviate, but cupping is still an effective method of bat modification. It's like a legal version is corking. The mlb has reduced the allowed depth of cupping over the years, but it's still an open variable. Cupping reduces volume slightly to increase density by a roughly 1-2%. This isn't a dramatic difference in terms of power, however in terms of bat flex and durability, it is a neat benefit. It does bring back the balance point of a bat without changing the MOI or sweet spot LOCATION too much so the swing weight feels better without losing as much power as a different uncupped turn model of equal swing weight.
That's the main argument that players have, if cupping is there to make a bat more balanced, why not just get a more balanced bat? Of which mass distribution is the answer as to why it's effective. Logically, you get an uncupped turn model, saw off like .5 inches from the end and it'll have the same amount of mass removed from the end, but the MOI and sweet spot location is now in a totally different area. That's why with wood, trial and experimentation is the best way to get your personal gamer
To my understanding, cupped bats are denser because with the reduced weight of the cupping, they can balance with denser wood. This should result in faster velos, as the bat aborbs less of the impact and instead redirects more of it back into the ball. However, uncupped in end loaded and drives the ball farther. It’s a perfect difference of contact hitter vs power hitter
yep it really kind of washes out in the end in our opinion. Just depends on the hitter. There are hall of famers that are on both sides
How could a bat with better exit velos not go as far? I’m not questioning your idea on bat density, but would that just mean cupped bats are better because they are lighter and hit the ball harder/farther.
@@dominicteneriello9977 Cupped bats aren't considered "better", it's mostly about what you can control better. For instance, guys who swing the heavy power hitter bats like Vlady Jr are able to control the bat even though its a heavy end loaded uncupped 243 variant and he is so strong he of course still gets really high exit velos because hes just damn strong. However, you got a player like Matt Chapman who is considered a versatile hitter in my opinion he swings a cupped C271L. Not necessarily a power hitter bat, but he swings it so fast and has so much control with his bat and he has enough strength to generate enough power from it and also get higher exit velocity because the wood is strong enough even with a smaller sweet spot. If that same hitter tried to swing a heavier bat, he still might hit a home run but he would have probably lower exit velocity, slower bat speed and probably less bat control. Now there does have to be a balance of course, you can't get good exit velo or distance if you are using a very very light bat because there isn't enough mass to get behind the ball. You will have to fight and almost push the barrel through the zone vs letting there be some mass to help you out once you get to the ball. I feel like I made it more confusing for you, but oh well.
@@Dr.MalcomsBrokenLeg ok that makes sense, vlad, judge, and Stanton seem to have uppers 70s low 80s bat speed, along with a heavier bat. That gives them more power, so to simplify it, swing the heaviest bat that gives you mid 70s bat speed, or if your Arron judge swing a 35 inch bat faster than people swing 33.5s. And the cupping is used to increase a bit of mass instead of having to go up an entire inch or half inch of bat, while adding power.
@@dominicteneriello9977 In short yeah, for instance I went back and forth between a 110 and T141 both maple and both were cupped 33inches & 30.5 ounces. Hardest ball I ever hit was about 101 and that was with the 141 model. But, I really reared into that one. Otherwise, I averaged about 97ish with both bats. In terms of the numbers though dude, don't let them get on your mind too much. If you hit homeruns or get clean peppered base hits. No one cares how hard they were hit. Focus on what you can swing without sacrificing your ability to control the bat and have good barrel control. Rest is all mechanics and doing what you need to do to be productive.
Finally! More wood bats! Keep up the great work, men!
Bro I cannot believe it took me so long to realize will wears like 300-700 dollar shoes for some of the vids like it's truly amazing how far you've come and also, u have some good taste in shoes lmao
I'm not really into blue colored bats , but I have to admit that one is gorgeous
right?! caught me by surprise
The fact that it looks bright and glossy on the barrel and dark and solid towards the handle is just 👌
YES another great video PERFECT. This might be my favorite channel of all. Especially because I am a baseball player in middle school. I play at this same spot
you're the man bro thank you!
@@baseballbatbrosYou dang welcome! I am literally serious when I say I play here. Where are you guys from? I am such a big fan I love playing baseball! #baseballbatbros(best youtube channel) :)
I'm absolutely loving the cameras in the outfield. So satisfying to see!
I love it when you swing wood bats in this field, it's a beautiful experience for my ears. I would love to buy this bat but it doesn't show up in their store sadly :c
The Chandler bat has such a nice sound, god pop. Really considering trying one out.
Always great analysis and demonstration
Amazing sounds, wood bats are the best !!!!!!!
This is really interesting. Thank you guys for making this one! I've been curious about this myself. I've found that on my company's bats, the deeper the cup the smaller the sweet spot, regardless of turn model. Reducing weight with a deeper cup may help create balance and increase swing speed, but potentially at the cost of a smaller sweet spot.
Another thing that may be interesting to test/measure would be the impact that different shapes and depths of cups would have on the performance and feel of different turn models and types of woods. Spherical-shaped cups (like the one in this vid) may create different results than more cylindrical-shaped cups, such as those from Sambat or MAXbat. Probably very subtle differences, but may be interesting to test out!
Thanks again guys, looking forward to your next wood bat video!
Agreed!! 💯
I actually have done research on this. I know we were suppose to speak before, sorry i haven't had time to coordinate this, but let's actually do it this time lol
Where do you like to connect most often?
Absolute nukes my goodness will
Hear that kid in the back. “Damn”😂
That sound!!! Uncupped for the big hosses or guys that are just country strong. Seemed like you guys kind of revved up the velo on the BP pitches. Things starting to get green in Oregon...spring has arrived!!
yessir!! I think the move is: cupped on bigger turn models, uncupped on smaller turn models.
Personally, I think the T141 & MT27 models are a perfect versatile bat. Swung a 110 & T141 both cupped 33/30.5's and I really enjoyed them both. But, I would get the T141 today with a knob like the one you guys had on this one. Wasn't available to me back then, wish it was!
I just love the sound of a good wood bat
OMG your video's are so good you've inspired me to know more about baseball and are so entertaining keep up the great work!!!
Outfield camera there to get the flag pole shot :)
Would love to see you guys measure the bat speed difference of cupped vs uncupped
Rhys Hoskins is a great player in my opinion he’s underrated great video guys
Just picked up a Prairie Stick birch 271(equivalent) 33.5, -2 uncupped bat. Looking forward to the first hacks with it. Would love to see you guys do a review
Those bats are both beauts
I love the kids in the background 🤣🤩
Blue bats!! 🔥
Love the kids in the background. Lol
Love wood bat Science videos! Shout out to the Sacramento State Alum RH7!
Love the wood bat videos!!!
The Sound everybody wants to hear, the collision between rubber/cork wrapped ball in leather and maple wood ♥
Some companies like Sam Bat offer a half-cup as well. I really liked it on the AP5 model.
Big fan of that Chupacabras hat!
I've seen a wild pitch and a hit batsman so far. Looking for a balk. lol Great video.
Yes another video love your channel keep the banger vids coming
Lookin yolked, Will!
do a vid on bruce bolt wood bats
love it! And love you wood bat videos! When's the rest of wood bat madness 2.0 coming?
next vid!
@@baseballbatbros so pumped!
Those sunglasses 🕶 are 🔥
Definitely woke the wife up when you hit the flag pole! All worth it! Keep it up guys! 🇺🇸🇺🇸
3:33 more blue and orange bats 100% the way to go
Need more wood bat reviews now that summer ball is rolling around soon 👀👀👀
Bat bros with another banger
Since you’re doing stuff like cupped and uncupped, you guys should get both versions of the old hickory mt27, the steel pressed and non steel pressed. Very curious to see which is better considering a roughly $40 price difference
What would you recommend for a RA13M, 32.5, -3, when Someone is switching from a metal to wood
i personally like Chandlers option of having a Kiss cup , where literally only a small amount is taken out at the end of the barrel but it still feels like a uncupped bat as far as how solid it hits.
Any company can do that. Chandler makes amazing bats though
@@timmathias2677 how many have those options online though?
@@mlewis6892 I would think custom from any company has that option but I’m too lazy to check. I just know victus and Marucci do it
It has to be a custom though
@@timmathias2677 they dont offer kiss cup , victus offers either full or half cup. its just a small difference
love the d'arnaud edit
I would love to see a review on Tucci Lumber wood bats!
I need the next episode of wood bat madness
Yo love the fence cam.
Dang those sound good
Love you Jack! :D
Lookin like General Kenobi in the box HELLO THERE
Y’all should try and cork a metal bat with foam insulation 👀
When I went to Cooperstown back in the 90's all players who hit five hundred or more homers used uncupped bats. I know the purpose of cupped bats, but I'm just old school.
What are some good affordable baseballs I can get ?
Can u guys make a video on the illegal bats
I've always wondered lol do u fetch all the homerun balls too?
“…whether one of these options outweighs the other.”
I see what you did there.
can you guys do a 33.5 31 cupped vs 33.5 30.5 cupped to tell if you should go up a half ounce or just no cup on your bat
Good video, lots of info. For me pro select wood, cupped , Bonds model feels better. Swings lighter.
Curious.. how about velo testing -cupped vs uncupped..?. awesome vid as usual.
On your Small-Larger Barreled Wood Bat Scale, where would an AJ99.2 land on the scale?
can you guys try the 2022 zoa (the gold one)
I'm not sure there is any better sound in baseball then the crack of a wood bat.
Maybe a catcher's mitt indoors
Trace is back we can party again
I love these videos
Is there a difference between the black and red voodoo one?
The sad thing is I know exactly what day this was filmed because of how few nice days we’ve had in oregon
I have a great video idea: heavier cupped VS lighter uncupped
I love the fact that you play baseball and wear jordans
id suggest if you want to get it cupped then go for a 33.5/30.5 i13 model. if you want to get it uncupped then i suggest going for a 33/30 110 or 271 model
I swing a 33/30 uncupped 271 Yellow Birch bat and love it :) I hit a screaming line drive yesterday, but right back at the pitcher lol. Sucks, but I loved the contact, didn't feel anything.
@@paul-baseballcollector. i swing a C243 KR3 Maple and its solid, but i find having the cup on the 33/30 to have a bit less barrel than i'd like. for my next bat id like to go birch and a bit longer with the cup still
@@baileysmith4744 I've heard bad reviews about KR3 bats and their wood not being solid. I live in Québec, Canada and we have one well-known company here named B45 (Bros tested the B13c) and two other: Märk Lumber (a bunch of Minor Leaguers swing them) and TBF (which is what I swing, their bats are as good as B45 but much cheaper. Nobody knows this company much, very underrated).
We have very cold winters here in Québec, so the wood is the hardest it can be! Above the 45th parallel
No intent to brag haha
@@paul-baseballcollector. B45 is big league birch wood, and Mark Lumber is solid. KR3 are great bats but they are mainly known for wood composite maple. their bats can be hit or miss, but the best bats are honestly incredible. ive heard mixed reviews about them but one thing i heard consistently was they are durable and have a great swing weight for a 243 model, and the barrels can be hot if you get a good one
Loved the vid
Day 1 of asking can you review the jrodshow victus bat
What batting gloves would you recommend
Will gets hit first pitch and proceeds to Say this is gonna be a good day
The kids in the back😂
needs to be some tucci love!!!
Hi guys great review on the RH7 Chandler bats. Went to Chandler website to purchase RH7. Can't find it. Can u guide me how to purchase it. Thanks
Just request in additional notes
@@ChandlerBatsWhat bat to purchase in order to exercise option.
try out the “Rawling OA1” ozzie albies wood bat it’s underrated
How 🔥 would that Red & Blue Rawlings composite be if they offered it in an uncupped version?! Love mine but feels terrible off the end of the bat!
Also, the 110 composite one is practically a C271 with a sort of half cup, idk if it was intended to be like that, but I'm not complaining because I love my Trinity CS271's that are uncupped 👍🏻
or if they offered the 110 version uncupped!! 🔥🔥🔥
@@ChadVoos202 100%
@@baseballbatbros would definitely be even more 🔥 uncupped, but the cup on it already is pretty small and shallow. idk if it differs from bat to bat, but it's a lot smaller of a cup than the one on the 243.
I swear y'all did a test like this before, either way good video.
Nah not yet, been wanting to do this one for awhile. These bats were fire!!
Bro the kid in the background be like ddddaaaaammmmm
are these out yet?
Just request RH7 in additional notes
Can you guys do zoa Vs Green Zen
1:53 Man does he turn on that one.
I wondered when you would start putting a grip on a wood bat! So many big leaguers are doing it now. When did you start? I've never seen it in any previous video.
You should try the rawlings red quatro pro.
You guys need a scale to weigh your wood bats. I weighed mine and they tend to be well over an ounce heavier than marked, often 2+ ounces.
I swing a 34 inch bat, so it can pretty annoying when you buy a bat that’s supposed to be a drop 2 when in fact it’s a drop .5, if even that.
yeah I usually do. Some manufacturers are better than others. The last few wood bat videos we've done (powerbull and chandler) they've been spot on.
Looking good
I love that blue one it looks fantastic
You guys should try the marucci f5 2022
U should review the goods one piece usssa and the posey pro metal usssa
And use the white goods from last year
You should try the trea turner Marucci it’s super light
Bat bro Will slams bat in video… Rhys slams bat in the playoffs… coincidence? I think not!😂