@@TarZBlammo on that note, why did you give Kazuha Favonius instead of the Xiphos Moonlight ? Also you do realize that Nahida can pick up the violet grass ?
What frustrates me the most about the situation is that everyone has Traveler and access to their alternate forms so if there ever was a case they could go back and tweak a characters kit without opening a can of worms it would be THE free universal unit.
I honestly don't know how they would implement swapping mid-combat, especially given all the forms we have. A toggle would be nice, but knowing mihoyo, they would probably put that on a cooldown just like swapping and have it tied to the server
@@TarZBlammoIf I was hoyo I wouldn't do swapping but mixing so you can change your burst and skills elements and out of combat make it so you can swap them in the character menu (I'm still Holding out hope for dual element characters for Vision+delusion holders
@@TarZBlammo Swapping elements or at least a single element would be actually pretty easy. L+● or L+× (or both) as L+■ is already taken for special gadgets and skills, and L+^ is for swapping the 5th hero slot. Either way, I could totally see them, adding a cool down on swapping. Additionally, resetting the cool down on the elemental skill and burst. Making swapping borderline unless.
@@sebay4654 I have no evidence of this, but I have a feeling that's what's going to happen to Iansan. I don't want to spoil too much if you're not caught up on Natlan's story, but Mavuika _might_ be getting the Foçalors treatment, and since it's implied that Iansan is her deputy of sorts, she might end up with some extra Pyro powers when Natlan finally wraps up. This is all extrapolation and speculation on my part, so don't take it too seriously.
@SageRuffin even if it’s speculation in which I get, you know we will wait until the official source comes. but we need something. I need aether and lumine to start whooping ass like we’ve never seen before gameplay wise.
You can imagine the disappointment from having great kit with Dendro MC to having a terrible kit with Hydro MC. Hopefully Pyro MC doesn’t follow that trend.
Don’t get your hopes up. Dendro Traveller was a fluke. He had to be good due to a lack of Dendro units. There are plenty of pyro units, and almost all of them are good. Giving pyro Traveller a good kit would de-incentivize the need for new and low-spending players to pull pyro units. Same for all other Traveller kits.
pyro traveller will be awesome because he's gonna have the nighsoul blessing from natlan since he's gonna receive his ancient name on the next archon quest. they need to make him use the sup artifacts that's why I think he's gonna be good @@WhatzitT00ya
@@user-Asparaguskisser I mean: 1. There was an Archon at the time the Hydro MC gets their power 2. HMC's kit is like a mini-Neuvillette that was starved as a child and kept in the basement to feed on crickets and hopes of a better life.
while not possible in single player, hydro mc's best companion might be the anemo mc. anema mc s burst also moves forward, while keeping small enemies inside. so what you can theoritically do is to use anemo mc burst, swirling pyro, and follow up with hydro mc burst to make a moving vaporize pillar. might be worth a try in multiplayer
There is one issue with this, HMC's c2 makes them move at different speeds iirc, making it so that this isn't as practical to use. Pre-c2, this does work, but then you don't get the rest of the constellations, so it's a give and take.
@@JanaiAlmeida-jo7sv You already should know that Ayaka'a burst stops on enemies, while HMC doesn't. 1 or 2 Hydro applications aren't worth 80 energy.
I mean, the Traveler was already level 90 from the Geo MC video Sure, triple crowning HMC is insanity, but this isn't as insane as building Qiqi in term of investment (although it has much lower return on investment than even Qiqi tbh)
@@pawilox copium it may be, but I swear I hate how bennet is among the best buffers for over 4 years. Really hope that we will finally switch up bennet for something else
Idk if you know, but violet grass can be grown in your teapot. (A lot of level up plants can such as lumidoce, sea cucumbers*, violetgrass, valberries, quenepa, and lampgrass. )
Hydro MC can theoretically work with Candance and the 4-piece Heart of Depth bonus I’d also use Yun Jin and Thoma for buffs and reactions Just use Candance’s burst and Hydro Traveler’s tap skill and whale into the enemy with Normal Attacks infused with Hydro
and then bring Baizhu and Nilou and you will get an okay team but would work much better if you replace Hydro MC with Nahida instead or any other hydro/dendro character The issue with normal attack infused is that they have normal icd which mean only 1 weak hydro application every 3 hit and normal attack have low range so it doesn't work super well in AOE while being too weak for single target
@@zeromailss I am very aware of that But I want to do decent damage with Hydro Traveler at least once Also I am replacing Thoma with Xiangling because she’s unironically got the best Crit Ratio on my entire account. Plus the copypasta meme
as a aether main i can say that i focus more on the skill then the burst burst is a nice side order and i focused on vape with the skill useing dehya does nice dmg also nice to see someone else working on traveler some of the elements are hidden gems looking forward to electro! and see how you build them
I thought we were done with awful traveler kits T-T no one ever talks about electro traveler but its pretty damn good for what it is and being free. Not as good as someone like Raiden but MUCH better than people say it is
Electro was my favorite until Dendro came out and I was forced to switch to it due to lack of alternatives. By that time I also got more Electro so I never switched back. I know Geo and Anemo were actually decent as well and had their uses, but Electro was the first Traveler kit that I actually enjoyed using.
Duh becouse electro mc is raiden ordered on wish 😅 Same for hydro but wit neuvilett od couse but its not just ordered on wish but also yelivered with DPD
Well I use both dendro and electro, also I use geo in my mono geo team and also use anemo...well anemo I use for fun same with hydro, actually I only use hydro since it's my favorite element and out of pity, but it can still be fun in some team compositions *inhales copium*
@@Nameah109 electro mc is decent Anemo mc straight up doesn’t work. Remember how anemo characters usually group small enemies? Anemo mc does the opposite!
@@santabakure6264 i mean atleast with c6 you can get 60% elemental res shred in total with vv and a bonus 20% anemo res shred honestly every mc has a use than hydro anemo good if you dont have any anemo good support geo can dish out decent dmg and can buff your team crit rate through cons electro mc for energy and dendro mc is dendro no nedd to explain how broken it is i dont get mihoyo design on hydro especially the burst normally you would think its an oversite on how the burst past through everything but there is a litteral cons that slow so they know how bad it is and just kept it
You know, HMC's Burst would synergize perfectly with AMC's Burst. Mihoyo might have plans to allow players to eventually combine elemental attunements (2 accessible elemental attunement slots instead of 1), which could create combined kit effects (and make for a really interesting combinatorics level of kit building). I.e. HMC + AMC Burst would be a moving, swirling mass of Anemo and Hydro that pulls and carries enemies with it. And the Skill would be a long moment of standing still firing small hydro vortexes that pull enemies in on impact and detonate with a hydro + anemo blast + swirl. It'd be easy to implement, just slightly alter the built-in Attunement system when interacting with a statue to then select which "slot" to replace. THEN Traveler's multiple kits wouldn't be a "well this one's weaker than this other one, so I guess I'll never use it beyond puzzles" anymore, but now a question of "this new kit has an odd niche, I wonder how it interacts with the rest of the accessible kits." I have to believe that they have a plan. Because otherwise, the egregious oversights they make regarding Traveler's kit, EVERY TIME, could only be explained by pure greed and ignorance. Yes, there must be a grand plan...
i have always been waiting to see if we get double Traveler after the game's main story ends and we find our sibling. i dont exactly see why they would stay in Teyvat lorewise considering they are TRAVELERS but hey i can hope
See you in version 7.0, when the Traveler has finally resonated with all of Teyvat's elements and regained their own divinity. ...unless they pull an Imbibitor Lunae & make "God" Traveler banner-limited. x__x
@@GhostDraggon_ well maybe to level them up later and just keeping them to have them.. but everyone I pull for a 5 Star I either have every lvlup material ready or I grind for 2-3 weeks
@@benrood2562 Xianyuns one of the 5 stars at level 1. Bro had 8 months her banner was in February 😭 I wish I had that level of disposable income cuz I can't imagine pulling for someone and not use them
It really sucks that HMCs kit is basically built to fail, i mean dude literally has a talent with a 5000 dmg bonus cap which is absolutely insane when you look at other characters like Hu Tao with her 400% atk bonus cap
7:16 Genuine skill issue, should've gone by the edge of the stairs to avoid the story trigger the moment you saw Qiqi in the overworld. On a serious note, I can relate with the pain that it is to grind Violet Grass as after i finished my Qiqi all the way back in 2020 I just instinctively kept on grinding it over and over that when Baizhu came out, I just happened to have like 900 of it and I think thats where I stopped grinding Violet grass to.
So a literal tornado can’t go through a wall despite being a formless entity and yet a huge water ball can?! What, does the water ball’s molecules dissemble just so it can go through the fucking atoms of the wall and then assemble back into a water ball?!
Okay, so hydro mc is meant to be mini neuvillette, right? For the E, maybe a charge shot rather then a pea shooter and for the burst make it circle around the active character like Kaeya's or kuki's burst. Though, honestly I always thought that the reason for traveler's kits (asides from dendro and geo) being eh, is because they plan to make so you can switch elements in battle and don't wanna make them overpowered. Imagine the only thing the hydro burst is good for is watering the dendro burst 😭 😭
I doubt that they will allow us to change elements mid battle. It breaks the whole point of the game and the combat system that is based on team building, synergy and following rotation. Plus, there's no use for a multi-elemental character in the game in general...
It's a cracked theory, but people have been saying that the traveler's burst is reminiscent of the dragons abilities (I.e. anemo dragon and the tornadoes, dendro dragon and the bulb, hydro dragons hydro pump), while the skill is the severely toned down version of the archons abilities (I.e. Zhongli and his pillar, raiden and her burst, Venti and the vortex)
@@meangengar8053 yea, you're right, but I imagined it with a handicap of only using traveler along with and or handful of his abilities and not all. Though honestly, it kinda sounds more stupid the more I type it out lol.
@@uchosewiselee6776 I mean, this doesn't work for Hydro MC specifically. Their hold-skill is obviously a budget Neuvillette CA (and sure, we can count him as the holder of Hydro authority by the end of Fontaine Act 5), but their burst being a water vortex would then send us back to Osial. Whom is pointedly NOT the hydro dragon. Also, DMC's skill pretty much has nothing to do with Nahida's.
@@gallalameblook9911 hydro MC burst would be reminiscent to the archon and not Neuvillette (who is the hydro dragon). Which in that case should be Focalors, and technically by extension Furina. It's a bit of a stretch for sure, but bubbles be bubbling. Dendro MC skill for sure has no similarity. There's no debate on that lol
I accidentally picked HMC one time during some kind of event, the team comp consist of HMC, Nahida, Nilou, Yaoyao. At first, I marked enemies with Nahida's skill then accidentally pressed HMC burst(I play on mobile) and then immediately died because of bloom damage. So I tried using HMC again equipped with FLOP Em + Er and cleared some spiral abyss floor in around 15-20 seconds because of HMC burst. Therefore I conclude that HMC might be viable with Nahida C2
They could have made a tennis character where everything is based around the burst. Normal attacks can hit the burst and change the direction and the skill can add to the burst to make it bigger. The burst would explode after a certain amount of water droplets added to the burst and also after a certain amount of normal attack hits. It would be a dumb play style that wouldn’t always pay off if enemies are too mobile but at least it would be fun
fwiw, I have loads and loads of violetgrass because you can grow them in your teapot. I just rotate and grow everything, so I'm able to avoid all the violetgrass heartache
My Hydro MC isn't built, but while just messing around, Hydro MC, Furina, Bennett, and Kazuha was a pretty nice feeling team tbh. Just make sure to swirl pyro with Kazuha's burst and you have some nice vaporize. Bennett is Hydro MC's perfect teammate because you don't have to worry about leaving his burst's range. You might've tried that already in your other video though, idk. Just thought I'd put it out there. You could also do a burn-vape style team with a dendro character, Xiangling, and Bennett as well. I personally would use Emilie but I didn't see her on your account. Could also use characters like Layla for freeze, or Fischl for electro-charged. Idk, just spit-balling ideas.
I understood why people disliked Hydro MC, but I personally loved them a lot. They deal a decent amount of damage for overworld, which made them the perfect MC for story quest for me. My Lumine has been hydro this whole year and only changed element once during the Narzissenkreuz quest because Rene was immune to Hydro. I sometimes bring her to the abyss as a secondary healer and a droplet provider for Neuvillette.
@@HellBent_lowkey dmc works so damn well that kinda goes off the "meme build" realm. Build phys dmg while also generating seeds for hyperbloom. Raiden, Charlotte and furina
First time seeing your channel. First time seeing someone spend actual time and resources using Hydro MC in the Abyss. I have subscribed for the sheer commitment to this. 🤣 Salute Sir
I honestly didn’t know what they did back when I used to them, all I knew was that they were fun lol Might use them with sethos too once I unlock inazuma on that acc
I actually use him with raiden to give her more energy recharge, also his ultimate has electro shredded...what was the word in English again....what does that anemo pice do, vv
The fact that all those elementary powers are actually strong in lore vs their actual trash gameplay is really funny. Let's hope the Pyro MC is actually good 😂.
It being almost exclusively single-target is definitely a serious downside. I do recognize that the overall DPS is higher than people tend to assume because you're getting about 4 instances of damage per second, but for a point of comparison, look at how it compares to someone like Noelle, who hits about half as often but twice as hard, but also isn't field-locked or gated by CD and has very generous AoE.
I'm telling you if the burst stayed like Ayaka's burst or made a constilation for them that did that hydro mc would have been at least viable as a burst hydro support.
Well you just need a grouping projectile that moves to match the hydro traveler burst. Fortunately, we have just the thing. Anemo traveler burst. I'll just go get him, and oh, I see the problem.
And yet I still love the Hydro kit. Anemo and Hydro are probably the most fun to actually use in combat. Geo's good but kind of requires more free time to finesse than a lot of fights will give you if you're soloing them as the Traveler and can't get a Crystallize. Both Electro and Dendro do work but I keep seeing their slight failings instead of their strengths while playing them; they're objectively powerful but less fun for me to play. ...I'm still hoping to be disappointed by Pyro. (This is because I'm hoping the very early hints that Pyro and Cryo are the two elements the siblings don't feel the same way about lead to their kits for these two elements being distinct beyond animations, and I main Lumine. Given all the early bits of the game that are being trimmed away, I'd feel it's worth having one truly weak kit to see that lore fragment preserved.)
I remember I crowned hydro traveler skill and hydro traveler is the only reason I built traveler properly because it's so funny to me idk why and I genuinely enjoy their play style
I want them to split the elemental travellers into separately selectable units, so you can roleplay as canon traveller by swapping between all 4 of his elements as needed, and gear each separately, simply by assinging multiple travellers to your party
I wonder if there are enough Traveler Mains with the will & ping to trial how "well" Traveler synergizes with Traveler. Can Anemo MC vortex the bubble? Can Geo MC's burst "catch" it? Maybe the best support for Traveler IS Traveler (or, at least, their AU Twin).
There is a video on Anemo and Hydro MC burst on UA-cam but I forgot where it is (it was just as Fontaine released, before its first banner even ended). A constellation 0 Hydro MC’s burst moves close enough to an Anemo MC burst they can keep enemies in their AOEs, but since one of Hydro MC’s constellations changes the burst speed, that stops being the case with constellations.
@@studiesinflux1304 That's lowkey hilarious - imagine two players, one maining Anemo Lumine & the other, Aether. They play Anemo & Hydro MCs in co-op together... and then Aether unlocks all his constellations. Sibling synergy? Deleted.
I remember how much I loved dendro mc and had her in my nahida abys team for a super long time, hydro mc dissapointed me soooo badly... I hope pyro mc is good, especially as a nahida main, pyro mc will have to be really REALLY strong for me to like her...
I'd bet that they would do the Wuwa route of unlocking the pyro traveler during the climax of the archon quest and hopefully be very strong considering you have to progress SO MUCH of the game&story just to unlock that.
Not gonna lie: awesome video and team! With proper gear optimization and level up and such I guess this team can truly slap. Would you consider running deepwood rather than exile on Baizhu? Ofc, with enough ER. Wouldn't a Nilou bloom team be better thou, for Hydro MC I mean?
A team I find works really well for her is her with venti, Raiden, and bennet as a single target electro charge team! Electro charge isn’t that great but seeing the rapid amount of hits with the fast pace of lumines skill, venti burst, Raiden e, and electro charge is really fun! Also Bennetts js there to buff and heal so u can swap him out with someone of your own choice
You can also pair Hydro MC with Venti and two pyro characters and use ventis ult to shoot fish in a barrell. You can use him with layla, charlotte and albedo for freeze shatter and cherry on top shoot from Albedos elevator. Grow an imagination and there are a lot of things you can do.
I used Nymph's Dream for hydro traveler for dps and its good but a little bit harder we must use normal, charge, and skill to get maximum stack of Nymph's Dream it gave 30% hydro dmg bonus + 25% atk higher than 2 set 18% atk and 15% hydro dmg bonus. Dont worry about time limit its 8 second, hydro traveler skill is 6 second I know this artifact is bad for all hydro but idk why i feel like the dmg higher than another artifact
You should test how the hydro damage here compares to hydro damage dealth by absorbing hydro with the anemo traveler, compared to what you got here. Really looking forward to the anemo video.
I just got the Hydro traveler C6 and she is actually pretty good Because I finished the archon quest I got her constellations so that’s how I got it C6 and I also bought some I think and she actually doesn’t take damage from using her scale anymore she self heals really good I do recommend and also Good damage
I fell in love with Hydro Traveler, I've learn to use him with great success so far but the dendro bloom tech I did not know, so this will make my Hydro Traveler even stronger. No, I am not saying its a good kit. Hoyoverse was huffing galaxy gas when they made the Hydro Traveler but as a Traveler main, I just had to try
I just got the uraku misugiri and tried it on every element of traveler's The numbers were crazy and here they r Hydro-50k highest with combo is 1.3m Geo-70k highest with como is 1.2m Electro [phy dmg build]-15k-16k per hit Dendro [mostly with ult and hyper bloom]-10k-12k fast hitting dmg Anemo-2k building up to 77k Anemo was shocked me that it was the lowest
I actually really enjoy Hydro Traveler haha "Wipe out!" makes me giggle, I made him pretty strong though... The team I use is HTraveler, Neuvillette, Baizhu, and Fischl
Ive been using Hydro MC since fontaine released and I have had zero issues with him. In fact Ive mained the Traveler since the games launch. I 36 starred the spiral abyss with him too. Heres the thing, if you play a unit stupidly they dont perform well. My Hydro Traveler is built 100% for damage. I use him in a sniperbloom party with Raiden, Nahida and Kuki. Nahida solves for elemental mastery, Raiden solves for energy recharge and Kuki heals so good that your party is unkillable. The travelers kit is bad if you have no imagination or experience with other games. If you arent a fool hes actually very easy to use and the damage you can get out of him, with shielding and healing is decent enough.
Does the dendro core interaction make the burst apply more hydro? If it changes the interaction there could be a use case in bloom, fridge and Nilou bloom teams. Back then, the Nilou main madlads used Collei against the Wenut because of her frontloaded dendro application was better suited to the hell worm's short vulnerability period. Maybe HMC Collei Nahida can make some sort of bloom chain reaction. There was a similar unexpected interaction with Barbara's E, normally it hits an enemy in its radius every cooldown and "pulses" every time it touches a new enemy and dendro cores used to count for that, so every 3 dendro cores would cause her to apply hydro again (3 hit rule), against 3 enemies she could easily overpower the dendro aura of Nahida and another dendro combined. This interaction was removed because we can't have good things, but maybe our Hoyoverlords forgor about HMC just like we did...
If I were to make a build around hydro atm, I would probs do tazer with; Crit HY-Trav(4p:Nymph), HP Xingqui(2p:Tenacity&2p:Vourukasha), EM raiden(4p:Thundering), and EM ororon(4p:Gilded). the idea playing more toward trav's E
Yeah part of the issue is that their Skill generates 3.33 particles under all circumstances. 3.33 particles for a 10s CD is fine, but if you use Hold E it's 3.33 particles for a 16s CD which is a lot more rough (you can only get it once per rotation). Their C1 is meant to alleviate this, but only does so for themself, so they're still producing a relatively low amount of particles for the rest of the team.
Furina has 60 burst cost 6:04
You are absolutely correct and that is completely my bad. Apologies for the mistake
To be honest hydro mc just feels like they were trying to figure out the scalings for nivelette xD
@@walterdawgwater4669 And they still messed it up smh
@@GreparsYTat least they did it in the opposite direction instead of doubling down
@@TarZBlammo on that note, why did you give Kazuha Favonius instead of the Xiphos Moonlight ?
Also you do realize that Nahida can pick up the violet grass ?
What frustrates me the most about the situation is that everyone has Traveler and access to their alternate forms so if there ever was a case they could go back and tweak a characters kit without opening a can of worms it would be THE free universal unit.
I honestly don't know how they would implement swapping mid-combat, especially given all the forms we have. A toggle would be nice, but knowing mihoyo, they would probably put that on a cooldown just like swapping and have it tied to the server
@@TarZBlammoIf I was hoyo I wouldn't do swapping but mixing so you can change your burst and skills elements and out of combat make it so you can swap them in the character menu
(I'm still Holding out hope for dual element characters for Vision+delusion holders
@@TarZBlammo Swapping elements or at least a single element would be actually pretty easy. L+● or L+× (or both) as L+■ is already taken for special gadgets and skills, and L+^ is for swapping the 5th hero slot.
Either way, I could totally see them, adding a cool down on swapping. Additionally, resetting the cool down on the elemental skill and burst. Making swapping borderline unless.
@@sebay4654 I have no evidence of this, but I have a feeling that's what's going to happen to Iansan. I don't want to spoil too much if you're not caught up on Natlan's story, but Mavuika _might_ be getting the Foçalors treatment, and since it's implied that Iansan is her deputy of sorts, she might end up with some extra Pyro powers when Natlan finally wraps up.
This is all extrapolation and speculation on my part, so don't take it too seriously.
@SageRuffin even if it’s speculation in which I get, you know we will wait until the official source comes. but we need something. I need aether and lumine to start whooping ass like we’ve never seen before gameplay wise.
You can imagine the disappointment from having great kit with Dendro MC to having a terrible kit with Hydro MC. Hopefully Pyro MC doesn’t follow that trend.
Don’t get your hopes up. Dendro Traveller was a fluke. He had to be good due to a lack of Dendro units. There are plenty of pyro units, and almost all of them are good. Giving pyro Traveller a good kit would de-incentivize the need for new and low-spending players to pull pyro units. Same for all other Traveller kits.
I pray that he is a OK Pyro dps. Like. Same power level of yanfei please. Make him usable
@@treymoney1019 Yanfei goes crazy against enemies that move or teleport.
@@PowerSpirit50except when missing a CA
pyro traveller will be awesome because he's gonna have the nighsoul blessing from natlan since he's gonna receive his ancient name on the next archon quest. they need to make him use the sup artifacts that's why I think he's gonna be good @@WhatzitT00ya
people have said MC is usually a budget Archon.... hopefully HoYo remembers the "Archon" part of "Budget Archon" for Pyro and Cryo MC
That makes sense since hydro mc is so weak because there is no archon in fontaine❤
They’re more like “Budget Sovereigns”
@@user-Asparaguskisser I mean:
1. There was an Archon at the time the Hydro MC gets their power
2. HMC's kit is like a mini-Neuvillette that was starved as a child and kept in the basement to feed on crickets and hopes of a better life.
Budget? Bugged and unplayable
@@user-Asparaguskisserif you think about it, Hydro MC kit kinda resembles to Neuvillete.
Wow, the triple crowning hurts my soul, just by watching. You must have been through a lot, Sir.
My Aether has 15 crowns and I regret nothing :D
@@olgabutorina4156Damn dude. OUCH
My Aether has 15 crowns and is my main
while not possible in single player, hydro mc's best companion might be the anemo mc. anema mc s burst also moves forward, while keeping small enemies inside. so what you can theoritically do is to use anemo mc burst, swirling pyro, and follow up with hydro mc burst to make a moving vaporize pillar. might be worth a try in multiplayer
There is one issue with this, HMC's c2 makes them move at different speeds iirc, making it so that this isn't as practical to use. Pre-c2, this does work, but then you don't get the rest of the constellations, so it's a give and take.
@@TarZBlammo what about using ayaka? freeze and then use kazuha to continue the freezing effect?
@@JanaiAlmeida-jo7sv You already should know that Ayaka'a burst stops on enemies, while HMC doesn't. 1 or 2 Hydro applications aren't worth 80 energy.
1:48 the amount of 5 stars at lvl 1 is crazy and bro chooses to build hydro mc out of all of them💀
I mean, the Traveler was already level 90 from the Geo MC video
Sure, triple crowning HMC is insanity, but this isn't as insane as building Qiqi in term of investment (although it has much lower return on investment than even Qiqi tbh)
it's our fault
That shit kills me whenever I see it. What's the point of pulling for LIMITED 5 stars if you aren't going to use them?
@@GhostDraggon_exactly
Level 20 Neuvi while chooing to buils hydro MC is actually insane 😂
it genuinely takes more effort to make a kit this bad than to just make smth decent
I hope Mihoyo's plan is to make Pyro Traveler better than Bennet to shake up the meta. Little 4* has been SS tier for 4 years, enough.
I smell copium.
nah mavuika is gonna do that
@@mizu9420 a 5 star ARCHON isn't ever gonna power-creep a op 4 star such as bennet
@@pawilox copium it may be, but I swear I hate how bennet is among the best buffers for over 4 years. Really hope that we will finally switch up bennet for something else
@@zakmohsalbenali5243 yeah mabye a sub dps because there's only xiangling
Idk if you know, but violet grass can be grown in your teapot. (A lot of level up plants can such as lumidoce, sea cucumbers*, violetgrass, valberries, quenepa, and lampgrass. )
Hydro MC can theoretically work with Candance and the 4-piece Heart of Depth bonus
I’d also use Yun Jin and Thoma for buffs and reactions
Just use Candance’s burst and Hydro Traveler’s tap skill and whale into the enemy with Normal Attacks infused with Hydro
and then bring Baizhu and Nilou and you will get an okay team but would work much better if you replace Hydro MC with Nahida instead or any other hydro/dendro character
The issue with normal attack infused is that they have normal icd which mean only 1 weak hydro application every 3 hit and normal attack have low range so it doesn't work super well in AOE while being too weak for single target
@@zeromailss I am very aware of that
But I want to do decent damage with Hydro Traveler at least once
Also I am replacing Thoma with Xiangling because she’s unironically got the best Crit Ratio on my entire account. Plus the copypasta meme
I would do the same but just Hydro MC + Nahida + Candace + Kuki
@@randyjr.arsenio5624 True
I have Nahida and Kuki built
as a aether main i can say that i focus more on the skill then the burst burst is a nice side order and i focused on vape with the skill useing dehya does nice dmg also nice to see someone else working on traveler some of the elements are hidden gems looking forward to electro! and see how you build them
Ong same!!!!!!...but I kinda use kazuha ulti swirled with fire
I can get up to 65k vaporize from Dehya, Xilolen, and Zhongli.
But the setup is expensive... Really expensive. Not worth it.
I thought we were done with awful traveler kits T-T no one ever talks about electro traveler but its pretty damn good for what it is and being free. Not as good as someone like Raiden but MUCH better than people say it is
I think the big problem with Electro Traveler is that people just forgot they existed by the time Dendro happened and they started to have more value.
I used electro traveler for a long long time
Electro was my favorite until Dendro came out and I was forced to switch to it due to lack of alternatives. By that time I also got more Electro so I never switched back. I know Geo and Anemo were actually decent as well and had their uses, but Electro was the first Traveler kit that I actually enjoyed using.
Duh becouse electro mc is raiden ordered on wish 😅
Same for hydro but wit neuvilett od couse but its not just ordered on wish but also yelivered with DPD
Well I use both dendro and electro, also I use geo in my mono geo team and also use anemo...well anemo I use for fun same with hydro, actually I only use hydro since it's my favorite element and out of pity, but it can still be fun in some team compositions *inhales copium*
Looking forward to anemo mc
It's gonna be electro
@@Nameah109 electro mc is decent
Anemo mc straight up doesn’t work. Remember how anemo characters usually group small enemies? Anemo mc does the opposite!
@@santabakure6264Anemo MC can hold VV so they are automatically usable
@@santabakure6264 i mean atleast with c6 you can get 60% elemental res shred in total with vv and a bonus 20% anemo res shred honestly every mc has a use than hydro anemo good if you dont have any anemo good support geo can dish out decent dmg and can buff your team crit rate through cons electro mc for energy and dendro mc is dendro no nedd to explain how broken it is i dont get mihoyo design on hydro especially the burst normally you would think its an oversite on how the burst past through everything but there is a litteral cons that slow so they know how bad it is and just kept it
The guy who "invented" Hydro mc kit need to get fired.
0:10 plot twist: he purposefully used reverse psychology on us to make more interesting content and get more views
You know, HMC's Burst would synergize perfectly with AMC's Burst. Mihoyo might have plans to allow players to eventually combine elemental attunements (2 accessible elemental attunement slots instead of 1), which could create combined kit effects (and make for a really interesting combinatorics level of kit building). I.e. HMC + AMC Burst would be a moving, swirling mass of Anemo and Hydro that pulls and carries enemies with it. And the Skill would be a long moment of standing still firing small hydro vortexes that pull enemies in on impact and detonate with a hydro + anemo blast + swirl. It'd be easy to implement, just slightly alter the built-in Attunement system when interacting with a statue to then select which "slot" to replace. THEN Traveler's multiple kits wouldn't be a "well this one's weaker than this other one, so I guess I'll never use it beyond puzzles" anymore, but now a question of "this new kit has an odd niche, I wonder how it interacts with the rest of the accessible kits."
I have to believe that they have a plan. Because otherwise, the egregious oversights they make regarding Traveler's kit, EVERY TIME, could only be explained by pure greed and ignorance.
Yes, there must be a grand plan...
im also hoping they do that too because traveler really needs buffs
I could see a situation where you end up with both Aether and Lumine playable once the game hits its end point.
i have always been waiting to see if we get double Traveler after the game's main story ends and we find our sibling. i dont exactly see why they would stay in Teyvat lorewise considering they are TRAVELERS but hey i can hope
This is so much copium ahaha u gave a good laugh
See you in version 7.0, when the Traveler has finally resonated with all of Teyvat's elements and regained their own divinity.
...unless they pull an Imbibitor Lunae & make "God" Traveler banner-limited. x__x
6:50 Violetgrass can be grown in the Teapot.
The lvl20 Neuvi hurt my eyes that wish for Neuvi
lvl 79 Lynette but no Neuvi is lvl 20 😰😰😰😰
1:48 so many 5 stars at lvl 1. I don't get why people pull for limited 5 stars and just not use them
@@GhostDraggon_ well maybe to level them up later and just keeping them to have them.. but everyone I pull for a 5 Star I either have every lvlup material ready or I grind for 2-3 weeks
@@benrood2562 Xianyuns one of the 5 stars at level 1. Bro had 8 months her banner was in February 😭 I wish I had that level of disposable income cuz I can't imagine pulling for someone and not use them
Well, for the very simple reason : They did not aime/pull for the specific 5 star but the 4 stars and their constalations. (I did that too).
It really sucks that HMCs kit is basically built to fail, i mean dude literally has a talent with a 5000 dmg bonus cap which is absolutely insane when you look at other characters like Hu Tao with her 400% atk bonus cap
I didnt expect the Hydro Travler doing at least acceptable damange lol.
Nice video
7:16 Genuine skill issue, should've gone by the edge of the stairs to avoid the story trigger the moment you saw Qiqi in the overworld.
On a serious note, I can relate with the pain that it is to grind Violet Grass as after i finished my Qiqi all the way back in 2020 I just instinctively kept on grinding it over and over that when Baizhu came out, I just happened to have like 900 of it and I think thats where I stopped grinding Violet grass to.
skill issue for not being aware he started a quest? ok
@@seabasskei Well, they also said "On a serious note", so I think they were being facetious.
So a literal tornado can’t go through a wall despite being a formless entity and yet a huge water ball can?! What, does the water ball’s molecules dissemble just so it can go through the fucking atoms of the wall and then assemble back into a water ball?!
Okay, so hydro mc is meant to be mini neuvillette, right?
For the E, maybe a charge shot rather then a pea shooter and for the burst make it circle around the active character like Kaeya's or kuki's burst.
Though, honestly I always thought that the reason for traveler's kits (asides from dendro and geo) being eh, is because they plan to make so you can switch elements in battle and don't wanna make them overpowered.
Imagine the only thing the hydro burst is good for is watering the dendro burst 😭 😭
I doubt that they will allow us to change elements mid battle. It breaks the whole point of the game and the combat system that is based on team building, synergy and following rotation. Plus, there's no use for a multi-elemental character in the game in general...
It's a cracked theory, but people have been saying that the traveler's burst is reminiscent of the dragons abilities (I.e. anemo dragon and the tornadoes, dendro dragon and the bulb, hydro dragons hydro pump), while the skill is the severely toned down version of the archons abilities (I.e. Zhongli and his pillar, raiden and her burst, Venti and the vortex)
@@meangengar8053 yea, you're right, but I imagined it with a handicap of only using traveler along with and or handful of his abilities and not all. Though honestly, it kinda sounds more stupid the more I type it out lol.
@@uchosewiselee6776 I mean, this doesn't work for Hydro MC specifically. Their hold-skill is obviously a budget Neuvillette CA (and sure, we can count him as the holder of Hydro authority by the end of Fontaine Act 5), but their burst being a water vortex would then send us back to Osial.
Whom is pointedly NOT the hydro dragon.
Also, DMC's skill pretty much has nothing to do with Nahida's.
@@gallalameblook9911 hydro MC burst would be reminiscent to the archon and not Neuvillette (who is the hydro dragon). Which in that case should be Focalors, and technically by extension Furina. It's a bit of a stretch for sure, but bubbles be bubbling. Dendro MC skill for sure has no similarity. There's no debate on that lol
Thank you for your sacrifice.
Would be fun to see Hydro MC + Ororon team whenever he releases
I was literally tryna farm oculus for C6 Hydro Traveler yesterday, this can't be a coincidence
the difference between the HMCs in both hoyo games is crazy
I accidentally picked HMC one time during some kind of event, the team comp consist of HMC, Nahida, Nilou, Yaoyao.
At first, I marked enemies with Nahida's skill then accidentally pressed HMC burst(I play on mobile) and then immediately died because of bloom damage.
So I tried using HMC again equipped with FLOP Em + Er and cleared some spiral abyss floor in around 15-20 seconds because of HMC burst.
Therefore I conclude that HMC might be viable with Nahida C2
In before, that interaction with the dendro cores is going to be fixed next patch for no reason at all.
They could have made a tennis character where everything is based around the burst. Normal attacks can hit the burst and change the direction and the skill can add to the burst to make it bigger. The burst would explode after a certain amount of water droplets added to the burst and also after a certain amount of normal attack hits. It would be a dumb play style that wouldn’t always pay off if enemies are too mobile but at least it would be fun
Honestly, IMO Hydro MC beats Aloy, Xinyan, and Qiqi as the worst character in the entire game. Not just a bad kit, but they are pretty much useless
Xinyan atleast works with Mualani and Skyward Qiqi is a fun teammate for Clorinde. 💀
I'll take hydro MC over Aloy. I could play hyperbloom or Nilou bloom with HMC or play some cracked vaporize shield team.
I really hope the traveler get a redemtion arc with his pyro kit
fwiw, I have loads and loads of violetgrass because you can grow them in your teapot. I just rotate and grow everything, so I'm able to avoid all the violetgrass heartache
8:47 the moaning😭
My Hydro MC isn't built, but while just messing around, Hydro MC, Furina, Bennett, and Kazuha was a pretty nice feeling team tbh. Just make sure to swirl pyro with Kazuha's burst and you have some nice vaporize. Bennett is Hydro MC's perfect teammate because you don't have to worry about leaving his burst's range. You might've tried that already in your other video though, idk. Just thought I'd put it out there. You could also do a burn-vape style team with a dendro character, Xiangling, and Bennett as well. I personally would use Emilie but I didn't see her on your account. Could also use characters like Layla for freeze, or Fischl for electro-charged. Idk, just spit-balling ideas.
I understood why people disliked Hydro MC, but I personally loved them a lot. They deal a decent amount of damage for overworld, which made them the perfect MC for story quest for me.
My Lumine has been hydro this whole year and only changed element once during the Narzissenkreuz quest because Rene was immune to Hydro. I sometimes bring her to the abyss as a secondary healer and a droplet provider for Neuvillette.
8:14 time for physical mc 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 you should try making one if you didn't yet
Prototype Rancor is canon! 😤😤😤
emc helps proc their own superconduct surely (that has been my plan with emc at least tho i used mare for stats since they are so stat hungry)
@@cass_caps Amc works better in my experience, purely for the fact that the E has a very good consistency with pale flame artifact set
@@HellBent_lowkey dmc works so damn well that kinda goes off the "meme build" realm. Build phys dmg while also generating seeds for hyperbloom.
Raiden, Charlotte and furina
@@jeremy8316 Wait you're cooking, idk why I never thought of a phys hyperbloom traveller. Definitely trying that
barbara has a similar "bug" before nilou released.. she can apply hydro on dendro core and multiply it..
but they fixed it when nilou was released..
First time seeing your channel. First time seeing someone spend actual time and resources using Hydro MC in the Abyss. I have subscribed for the sheer commitment to this. 🤣 Salute Sir
It's gonna be fun to see how he uses electro mc
im using electro mc to battery sethos cause i dont have fishcl
my Electro Traveler i have equipped with the Ferryman and use to battery my whole team
Emc is fun as phys bc they help proc superconduct! Doing like an emc layla fufu and benny/xianyun team is fun
I honestly didn’t know what they did back when I used to them, all I knew was that they were fun lol
Might use them with sethos too once I unlock inazuma on that acc
I actually use him with raiden to give her more energy recharge, also his ultimate has electro shredded...what was the word in English again....what does that anemo pice do, vv
I like ur dedication to being a Traveller main. Im Building Pyro Traveller too. It's gonna he fun
The fact that all those elementary powers are actually strong in lore vs their actual trash gameplay is really funny. Let's hope the Pyro MC is actually good 😂.
loved the use of the song from childe's trailer, it's a nice nod to the og hydro dps and it always gives me chills!
9:22 y'all acting like this is bad? dude, people PAID to get the 5-star version of this
It being almost exclusively single-target is definitely a serious downside. I do recognize that the overall DPS is higher than people tend to assume because you're getting about 4 instances of damage per second, but for a point of comparison, look at how it compares to someone like Noelle, who hits about half as often but twice as hard, but also isn't field-locked or gated by CD and has very generous AoE.
Violet grass can be found in the chasm as well.
I'm telling you if the burst stayed like Ayaka's burst or made a constilation for them that did that hydro mc would have been at least viable as a burst hydro support.
It's been 3 years since I last saw the abyss timer reach 0:00 xD
1:50
My mouth was wide opened when I saw lots of 5star characters thats level 1
Well you just need a grouping projectile that moves to match the hydro traveler burst. Fortunately, we have just the thing. Anemo traveler burst. I'll just go get him, and oh, I see the problem.
I have played HMC 6-7 months. he is not a dmg dealer, he is driver. Best team - Furina, Nahida/prototype R5/, Kuki. The team is very comfi.
Uhh you get that those 3 work regardeless of hmc right? I don't know what you understand as driver but that's not it.
@@canaldecasta onfielder is more correct
And yet I still love the Hydro kit. Anemo and Hydro are probably the most fun to actually use in combat. Geo's good but kind of requires more free time to finesse than a lot of fights will give you if you're soloing them as the Traveler and can't get a Crystallize. Both Electro and Dendro do work but I keep seeing their slight failings instead of their strengths while playing them; they're objectively powerful but less fun for me to play.
...I'm still hoping to be disappointed by Pyro. (This is because I'm hoping the very early hints that Pyro and Cryo are the two elements the siblings don't feel the same way about lead to their kits for these two elements being distinct beyond animations, and I main Lumine. Given all the early bits of the game that are being trimmed away, I'd feel it's worth having one truly weak kit to see that lore fragment preserved.)
08:17 Ah yes. I used two hydros against this boss as well. Party was Barbara, Nilou, DMC and Collei
Loved how the traveler was the one with less on field time haha.
What if you C1 Jean Skill the enemies into the angry bubble's range?
My deception was so strong when I tried the MC hydro... WHY THIS BURST MOVES SO MUCH
I was really expecting you to just pump them full of EM and stand them next to Nilou and Nahida.
I remember I crowned hydro traveler skill and hydro traveler is the only reason I built traveler properly because it's so funny to me idk why and I genuinely enjoy their play style
Was not expecting a NIKKE soundtrack at 10:35
I want them to split the elemental travellers into separately selectable units, so you can roleplay as canon traveller by swapping between all 4 of his elements as needed, and gear each separately, simply by assinging multiple travellers to your party
Mom I want Neuvlette. Stfu we have Neuvelette at home.
I wonder if there are enough Traveler Mains with the will & ping to trial how "well" Traveler synergizes with Traveler.
Can Anemo MC vortex the bubble? Can Geo MC's burst "catch" it? Maybe the best support for Traveler IS Traveler (or, at least, their AU Twin).
There is a video on Anemo and Hydro MC burst on UA-cam but I forgot where it is (it was just as Fontaine released, before its first banner even ended).
A constellation 0 Hydro MC’s burst moves close enough to an Anemo MC burst they can keep enemies in their AOEs, but since one of Hydro MC’s constellations changes the burst speed, that stops being the case with constellations.
@@studiesinflux1304 That's lowkey hilarious - imagine two players, one maining Anemo Lumine & the other, Aether. They play Anemo & Hydro MCs in co-op together... and then Aether unlocks all his constellations.
Sibling synergy? Deleted.
I am a traveler main, but never actually have meet another traveler main ever, in game, I have seen some on social media, but your ideas do sound good
I remember how much I loved dendro mc and had her in my nahida abys team for a super long time, hydro mc dissapointed me soooo badly... I hope pyro mc is good, especially as a nahida main, pyro mc will have to be really REALLY strong for me to like her...
What if you used the burst with Ayaka's ?
So traveller, nahida, Nilou and any off-field dendro applicator could be a working team
Couple days ago i was looking at achievements and have found out that i don't have an achievement for getting hydro element for traveler
When Kazuha's Hydro swirl and Furina's pets deal more Hydro dmg than the Hydro Traveller💀
I'd bet that they would do the Wuwa route of unlocking the pyro traveler during the climax of the archon quest and hopefully be very strong considering you have to progress SO MUCH of the game&story just to unlock that.
In order could have been fun
True, but I wanted to give viewers options and let them be involved. Also, I already broke the order by starting with geo mc first lol
Not gonna lie: awesome video and team! With proper gear optimization and level up and such I guess this team can truly slap. Would you consider running deepwood rather than exile on Baizhu? Ofc, with enough ER. Wouldn't a Nilou bloom team be better thou, for Hydro MC I mean?
My copium is that they'll make traveler fuse kits, and that the hydro traveler burst is intended to be used with the anemo travelers moving nado.
A team I find works really well for her is her with venti, Raiden, and bennet as a single target electro charge team! Electro charge isn’t that great but seeing the rapid amount of hits with the fast pace of lumines skill, venti burst, Raiden e, and electro charge is really fun! Also Bennetts js there to buff and heal so u can swap him out with someone of your own choice
You can also pair Hydro MC with Venti and two pyro characters and use ventis ult to shoot fish in a barrell.
You can use him with layla, charlotte and albedo for freeze shatter and cherry on top shoot from Albedos elevator.
Grow an imagination and there are a lot of things you can do.
I just want the Electro MC video
I used Nymph's Dream for hydro traveler for dps and its good but a little bit harder we must use normal, charge, and skill to get maximum stack of Nymph's Dream it gave 30% hydro dmg bonus + 25% atk higher than 2 set 18% atk and 15% hydro dmg bonus. Dont worry about time limit its 8 second, hydro traveler skill is 6 second
I know this artifact is bad for all hydro but idk why i feel like the dmg higher than another artifact
You can't convince me Fontaine was a year ago already 💀💀💀
You should test how the hydro damage here compares to hydro damage dealth by absorbing hydro with the anemo traveler, compared to what you got here. Really looking forward to the anemo video.
This is genuinely such a great showcase. It's so cool that you made Hydro traveler work. Did you 36* with that team or did you only do Floor 12?
I only did floor 12, but if you can do floor 12, 36* is pretty much possible
The best way to make hydro mc do dmg is to build physical
I just got the Hydro traveler C6 and she is actually pretty good Because I finished the archon quest I got her constellations so that’s how I got it C6 and I also bought some I think and she actually doesn’t take damage from using her scale anymore she self heals really good I do recommend and also Good damage
I fell in love with Hydro Traveler, I've learn to use him with great success so far but the dendro bloom tech I did not know, so this will make my Hydro Traveler even stronger.
No, I am not saying its a good kit. Hoyoverse was huffing galaxy gas when they made the Hydro Traveler but as a Traveler main, I just had to try
I love baizhu, he is on my every team in overworld but he is lvl80 not ascended. violet grass, uhm..no
The only reason I play him, is so I can go pew, pew, pew, while playing goldeneye music in the background.
Why didn’t you level them up or build them? 1:57
As long as the MC can kill a Ruin Guard, that is a win for me.
I just got the uraku misugiri and tried it on every element of traveler's
The numbers were crazy and here they r
Hydro-50k highest with combo is 1.3m
Geo-70k highest with como is 1.2m
Electro [phy dmg build]-15k-16k per hit
Dendro [mostly with ult and hyper bloom]-10k-12k fast hitting dmg
Anemo-2k building up to 77k
Anemo was shocked me that it was the lowest
I actually really enjoy Hydro Traveler haha "Wipe out!" makes me giggle, I made him pretty strong though... The team I use is HTraveler, Neuvillette, Baizhu, and Fischl
This is my first time seeing the hydro mc's burst
Ive been using Hydro MC since fontaine released and I have had zero issues with him. In fact Ive mained the Traveler since the games launch.
I 36 starred the spiral abyss with him too.
Heres the thing, if you play a unit stupidly they dont perform well.
My Hydro Traveler is built 100% for damage. I use him in a sniperbloom party with Raiden, Nahida and Kuki. Nahida solves for elemental mastery, Raiden solves for energy recharge and Kuki heals so good that your party is unkillable.
The travelers kit is bad if you have no imagination or experience with other games. If you arent a fool hes actually very easy to use and the damage you can get out of him, with shielding and healing is decent enough.
Does the dendro core interaction make the burst apply more hydro? If it changes the interaction there could be a use case in bloom, fridge and Nilou bloom teams.
Back then, the Nilou main madlads used Collei against the Wenut because of her frontloaded dendro application was better suited to the hell worm's short vulnerability period. Maybe HMC Collei Nahida can make some sort of bloom chain reaction.
There was a similar unexpected interaction with Barbara's E, normally it hits an enemy in its radius every cooldown and "pulses" every time it touches a new enemy and dendro cores used to count for that, so every 3 dendro cores would cause her to apply hydro again (3 hit rule), against 3 enemies she could easily overpower the dendro aura of Nahida and another dendro combined. This interaction was removed because we can't have good things, but maybe our Hoyoverlords forgor about HMC just like we did...
As far as I can tell, it doesn't because the application is on the core rather than the enemy being hit, so it doesn't override icds.
They didn't forgor, we can't have good things
10:30 dang that was good play
I used him as a quick swap, Burst then skill tap. The water gun tap was doing a decent chunk of damage but furina was obviously carrying lol
haven't cross my mind to use Hydro MC for Nilou Bloom comp
If I were to make a build around hydro atm, I would probs do tazer with; Crit HY-Trav(4p:Nymph), HP Xingqui(2p:Tenacity&2p:Vourukasha), EM raiden(4p:Thundering), and EM ororon(4p:Gilded).
the idea playing more toward trav's E
6:04 yeah. Even though Furina has 60 Energy cost. It feels like 120 when using Hydro MC. It doubles the teams energy cost lmao
Yeah part of the issue is that their Skill generates 3.33 particles under all circumstances. 3.33 particles for a 10s CD is fine, but if you use Hold E it's 3.33 particles for a 16s CD which is a lot more rough (you can only get it once per rotation). Their C1 is meant to alleviate this, but only does so for themself, so they're still producing a relatively low amount of particles for the rest of the team.
Ok but hear me out: you run klee on-field and use her charge attack to continuously blow enemies back into where the burst is going
my respects. impressive work you did.
If Hoyo didn't patch Hydro MC burst interaction with Dendro cores, maybe he will make more appearances in abyss meta
- Mom I want Neuvillette.
- We have Neuvillette at home.
Neuvillette at home:
I think Hydro MC's "Watergun" is so fun to me in concept.
IF ONLY IT DID DAMAGE I might've legit made Hydro MC one of my main chars.