how this *HUGE* misplay ALMOST cost NICKMERCS & the boys another Finals in ALGS Qualifiers!
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- Опубліковано 2 гру 2023
- NICKMERCS & the boys got into a HEATED discussion after barely making Finals in ALGS Qualifiers! 😲
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People in these comments don’t seem to understand Nicks whole point. Whether you agree with the call or not they said they are going to do it. They commit and then they leave him to get thirsted. He downs one and hurts another one. They reacted way too slow to help him.
He got stuck. Popped a whole battery. Downed one. Cracked another. And his team still wasn’t there to stop him from getting thirsted. Unacceptable.
I’m surprised someone in the comment section noticed it. I thought that was clearly spoken out, but even then it’s like no one understood the point he was making.
THIS, seems like everyone in the comments just brushes off that both of Nicks' teammmate agreed to his call, and half assed it, instead of fully committing. They didnt voice their objections while nicks gave out the suggestion, they said "Yea". As far as the arc star goes, dudes focusing to much on it, yes it was a mistake, but nothing bad came out of it. The arc star wasnt the reason the fight was almost lost.
Split up is the problem, it's always the problem.
Doesn't matter what we did, if we did anything together, that's the play.
──TSM Reps
@@19ryuusei The problem was only 1/3 of the team fully committed to the wipe in and out. You can tell the team they were fighting had no intentions of even living through it the moment Nick went for the wipe play. That’s why they went for the thirst in him. They just wanted that 1kp.
Agreed , as soon as the arc goes off they need to get back in there. The other team is 100% going to push off that arc especially with zone coming in.
Can’t believe it but Nick is right here - he told them the plan before anything even happened and they just dipped leaving him. I don’t agree with the play in general, should’ve just held them out, but they agreed and can’t just back out in the middle of it.
I agree I think if they just ratted at the top of the hill after seeing the team evac there, the team just walks up to them naturally and they can sweep em more cleanly without giving up good position
I see what hes going for though, if that team, TSMEX, rotates there then they have to take the stairs/height. If tripods push them early and q up to height they essentially have TSMEX trapped in a kill trough both up top and against the hill side. If deeds had horizon q then he could have dodged the arc and stayed engaged on height. Nicks play was good, i think the position just baited his team because there is a much easier but leas aggressive play there by waiting. But even waiting at the top of the hill for ring to close gives TSMEX a chance to use ults in their walk up or a team could come from behind tripods. I see what nick is going for. Hes trying to make tripods more proactive. They already mastered how to play safe, i think he wants to then to start playing risky.
I’m pretty sure the thinking was if you let them live there and a team gets behind them they’re now in a really bad pinch where their forced to ape one of the teams for KP, Nick had the right call imo I think they all need to be more aware during the fight, Nick not comming he’s pulling a bat through the arc or calling deeds off from pulling back and he doesn’t get full killed.
they should have been sliding and shooting as TSMEX's toes were touching the ground. there was some hesitation, which could have been fine and they probably should have just shifted to a gatecamp. i feel like nick needs to be a little more flexible as things happen in game.
You can't really hold them out that easily. They cat wall then bang ult with smokes and they're right on you. Nick's play is the play and but deeds and gent sold. In their pov they see arc star pop and they act like it has a 100 foot blast radius.
Not gon lie Nick has gotten wayyyy better. Those r9 beams are beautiful. Managing to even knock 1 in a 3v 1.
he didnt get better... He just switched over to 4 3 linear for the past couple of months maybe around s18.
Yeah that aim assist looking saucy
@@Astelchyou act like 4 3 gives you more AA 🤣
@@Taaxmaanthe fact is it does lol
@@Taaxmaan yep you’re right. 4 3 linear isn’t broken at all completely skill based input.
Bro Nick is actually cooking in these clips. Dude has improved so much
Fr.. those kraber shots makes me embarrassed to be banned in his chat lmao
Look at the kill feed lol have you ever heard of a single player or team in the lobby?
To be fair this lobby ain’t close to the skill a real pro lobby would have
Nick on hound is a great move for them.
Nick is 100% right. Hard swing that team, HOLDING HANDS, clean them up as quick as possible then tripods have a nice corner of the map all to themselves. Otherwise they’re in between two teams who they’ll have to inevitably fight and are vulnerable to be third partied from either side.
Facts, especially after nick 1 clipped dude and had the 2 flesh. Idk that was crazy to push back to the rock while your teammate is fighting. Thats some solo Que ranked shit 😂😂😂😂
Love seeing Nick improve. Ngl I didn’t think he had it in him but dude is an awesome IGL and becoming an insane player
Nick is 100% right! Has every right to be upset. Deed’s and Gent should’ve committed especially is they were healthy throughout that whole fight. You cant just agree and establish a plan back off like that. Nothing but excuses on their part.
I can understand Deeds & Gents logic of falling back a little because they see TSMex are forced to move in to open space without cover. The spot where they fall back on is actually the only piece of cover on zone close. So they know they are going to deal a ton of damage whilst taking very little damage bc they can just peak in and out of cover.
I agree with your take on their logic but where I falls apart is when you’re in a 3v2 with one cracked and there is a Cat ult down. You either all back off or you follow the plan, push through the wall and get the wipe. If the boys didn’t run away to find cover Nick never gets thirsted and they have a full 3 man walking into end game from a power position.
nick is 100% wrong, he didnt wait for them to agree he popped hound ult and ran at the team needlessly and died, doesnt matter if he knocked one, if he listened to gent, who is a more experienced player that played at apex lan before and killed them with zone would have been much easier, they never should have gone balls deep into a team in zone with zone closing.
@@sanjaysanj5603 sure. That should have been argued before the event. Nick called a play, they agreed with the play, Nick followed the plan. Nick has been caught out over extending a lot these last couple weeks but this wasn’t one of those times. You don’t argue an agreed upon plan in the moment. You argue it before you agree to it. Plain and simple. I never said it was the best plan. But it was a plan that was agreed upon and they left Nick in the breeze.
@@sanjaysanj5603 In what world do you think Nick didn’t wait for them to agree? He called it as soon as they got to the spot. He specifically called them each out by name and they agreed that was the play. Watch the clip again.
Nick is right. They were hesitant to push that. Nicks plan or gent and deeds plan wouldve worked, but the fact they all werent 100% on it made a valuable mistake. Its team work 101
Nick is right. He knew that team was landing there and they had blue armor. Once the plan is in they had to fully commit to the push, not drop all the way back. Where there backs were fully exposed. Nick is 1000% correct on that call.
Nick is actually on point here bro, I can understand getting downed but getting thirsted while teamates are busy dipping away and scratching their nuts is unacceptable.
i 100% agree with nick. no way he swings and drops 1 for free then hits another for 130 before he gets any help. by the time he’s watching their pov they’re 3030’ing from a rock claiming it was the arc stick before he even killed one. just bad chemistry there, they need more faith in nicks frag potential
"be a slinky" 💀
Nick knocked one guy and then put another guy to one shot... Nick called it right, did a bunch of damage, and that should have been cleaned up INCREDIBLY quickly. I really need to see Deeds/Gents perspective because Nick actually COOKED.
That moment at around 1:23 matters so much man. He left the fight for a second and gent got doubled focused. Just the small things Nick has to fix
Agree. He yells kill left, then he proceeds to not go left and for some reason just pops out to stare into the gas
he was checking for the mirror but yeah at this level you full commit to everything no matter what it is@@Stretchystrong
cant remember who said this but the top IGLs in the game do one thing great and thats take risks. You can't be a good team if you are constantly trying to find the play that has zero risk. Theres too many things that can happen. Nick called the play knowing full well what could happen and his team HAS to commit. If he calls something and they dont commit then theres zero chance of success.
Nick's R9 and Hound combo is disgusting.
that low sens be looking nasty
The hound is actually decent. Not great, not terrible though
Nick predicted that they would evac tower around the mountain, I would say as soon as they heard the evac tower just slide down and camp behind structures. Camping in big tournaments is always the best way to win a fight.
What’s really impressive is nick hitting the wall jump at 3:34
?? How is that impressive 😂
@@irelix8057 because it’s nick😂😂
@@sebastianterrazas9829 😭😭😭😭
Learn to put a timestamp right.... 3:31 better
@@TheHockeyplaya14075 🤓🤓🤓🤓
at 1:20 nick should be SWINGING after cracking that bang so hard. He does want to scan the back to make sure there isnt a third but his teammates lose because he isnt in there with them.
lol I haven’t been tuning into the nicmercs apex pro thing but the fact he’s now the one picking up the Kraber is crazy to see
Bro deeds and gent are strangely completely wrong here. I dont think nick should be igl nor do i think hes a great player, but if your igl makes a call you cant be one foot out the door. They cant disagree mid fight
And Nick was right this time, they had to push that team quick
@@marciliojunior4919 or they just hold zone, and force the team to continue rotating through zone? NO team is going to fight uphill whilst taking zone damage, theyd much rather just try rotate and live.
@@190daesEither way, they have to figure a quick way to attack and reset. That was a free kill for them wherever they do, but losing 1 teammate is too much on the game.
😂 what was the point of the trash talk in the middle?
@@TJzWayyy to show even as someone who is praying on nicks Downfall, that even I think he's right
I didnt know Nick was cooking that hard while still playing classic
I still play on classic and still do well
Thought he switched to linear. Did he change back?
@@SoulsSavehe plays 4-3 linear small deadzone that’s why he been beaming on another level 😭
Ultimately nick right, they full committed and u have to wipe it, deeds panicked and backed up to much
Nick has a valid point if they committed to that would’ve won that fight way quicker and everyone of them would be healthy and fine
Nick is was actually beating them pretty bad and he is low key right tho y'all fell back to far and left him to dry and he got thristed
Totally agree!
Nick really established so many times they were gonna commit to the fight, hesitating mid fight is one of the worst things you can do. Deeds and gent have to have way more confidence
Nah it's a bad call, better to hold that team out. They had high ground at the top of a hill and the other team had to run into them. No teams behind them either. They didn't need to run up on them, should have played it slower. Gent and Deeds just need to vocalize that
Thing is a play done as a team will ALWAYS be better than a team that is divided. It is gent and Deeds job to follow to the best of their abilities.
@@michaeleasley3373 I mean they did job to the best of their ability, just not how Nick wanted them to do it. They won the fight in the end.
In the first game at the end he said “we clean left” then does damage to one dude and then just turns around while his teams in the mix 😭
they just need to pay a guy to give them macro and they are chillin
I really like the team comp switch they made after after the last PLQ didn't go well. Deeds and Gent are beasts. Nicks IGLing, positioning and gun mechanics have kept improving. His movement tech could still use some work but when they execute plans, Tripods look like a solid team that could be back in pro league.
I won't lie I used to not even be able to watch Nick bc he pissed me off so much. I 100% agree with him on this one, and that self reflection at the end was mature as fuck and I respect it
3:57 that was nasty
Nick needs to chill with calling "big damage" after hitting for 30-40 😂 but really good confident calls he was making, they played well enough, happy for them
I said the same thing about the big damage callouts lmao
To a controller player that’s big damage. Next clip is instant one clip
Nick is finding his form on Bloodhound. Was cooking all night
Deeds had a HUGE turnaround and the entire squad played great. But DAMN NICK you are playing so well right now. Love it
I can't believe they just left vs a duo blue shield
Watching Nick's POV changed my opinion. While watching Wigg's watch party all we were seeing was, Nick dead 1st, oh it happened again. Oh look Tripods a duo again with Nick dead.
But doesn't look like it was all Nick's fault, more of a teamwork issue. Well i hope they do better, crazy to see a Pro league level team down bad like this.
Nick has actually gotten way better and honestly the only thing that’s really holding them back is there hesitation when making plays
The Boys losing the contest the first 2 games only to land tarps and armor cave last game and end up winning to qual was actually insane
Nick is Soo much better as an IGL. His calls are on point. Deeds as a fragger bailed on his IGL. It's these thoughts that are preventing tripods from being a real competive team. His igl made a call, he agreed to it, then halfway through made his own calls, ran, and pulled gent with him! If that was Hal making that call and reps and verhaulst left him he would LOSE IT!! if the igl calls a bad push, you HAVE to full send the call. No matter wat you think. Any doubts In a push results in a loss in pros 😊
This is the most important comment.
Nick definitely took a look at himself and did the work his attitude towards his teammates are different and his gameplay has improved significantly as well. Good shyt
If he literally waited for zone to push them into the OPEN FIELD, WITH NO COVER they die regardless, they have the boxes and high ground to play off that, there was no point for them to push them.
Yeah that call was terrible. That team was dead for free and nicks team would have been all 3 alive still.
@@2robjenkins That's cool and everything but that's not nick's point at all. It's about the execution of the plan they talked about based on how they want to play. He wants them to play super aggro and not back down. If gent and deeds didn't run away, they also wipe them instantly lol gent and deeds played passive when they shouldn't have in that situation and that's why he was pissed
@@Shane-sf5ul yeah I get that, but Nick put himself in a terrible spot there and died for it. It wasn’t worth it to even put themselves in a vulnerable position where they could lose a player. He’s defending his terrible call as an igl by blaming them for not apeing with him, it’s deflection and you don’t do that as a leader. Own up to your shit call.
@@2robjenkins I don't understand why you think holding them on a slow zone push while TSMEX plays bang, horizon, cat is a free wipe lol don't be stupid. Regardless of how they should've approached the fight, I think that when your IGL calls a play by any means you follow your IGL and trust him. The call wasn't even terrible at all, they left his ass after he did 250 dmg on blue shields, that's a free wipe and reset every single time.
nick was cookin tho
Nick calling to wipe a team, then turning around, then complaining when his teammates lose a 2vs3 cus he’s turned around in la la land 😂
nick is right if my boys dip on me because of an arc star (they've been nerfed fourty five times since launch its essentially throwing a wet noodle at someone considering how broken a hemlock or nemesis is) im getting extremely pissed off..
From being called a fk lame ass player to having pretty good insight in that game and being defended in the comments lol what a time to be alive. I really want to see Tripods, they have a lot of good content that not many teams show at all, the banter and flame makes ALGS spicy.
I left apex when nick was doing OK, I come back and see this guy beaming??? Good shit FR!
Going by the comments, you can tell just how many people didn't watch PSQ yesterday. 😂
Be a slinky felt that when he said it like man put in work dip out pop back that simple my teammates coms I knocked one did 120 ima going balls to the wall no matter what deeds needs a lil more faith in nick but overall great team for sure
Nick is cracked 🔥🔥🎯
Nick has really been on the grindstone! Massive respect to this dude he made me eat my own words
Even though i disagree with Nicks initial plan to send the team, he is absolutely right that when he tells Deeds and Gent the plan and they agree with him, they can't just dip during the fight.
Especially since Nick did more than enough entry damage for them to just clean up afterwards.
Nick's improvement in Comp Apex has been wildly inspiring.
Crazy how good Nick has gotten (happens when all you do is play scrims with good players vs other good players)
I believe Tripods could qual through qualifiers but would need more consistency and quite a bit of luck.
This is PSQ people, chill a bit. This team has been together for nearly 2 years. Vs new teams, some console teams. They shouldn't have struggled that much last week or yesterday. They should qual for pro league
bro killing me calling random spray at 3 dudes big damage
Na bro, Nick is 100% right here on god. They shouldn't have fully left. Even if it was a bad play, 3 people seeing it through has better odds than 1 person seeing it through. And even if gent said he would have been shooting knockdown, the point is if he did come back to Nick then that fight would have been over so quickly.
yea as soon as nick knock 1 they should of help him he even call it out for help smh
Looks like a miscommunication they def understood that they have to kill them but nick wasnt clear BEFORE the initiation cuz to them and many others holding the platform and letting them run into the open as the ring close in would seems much more sensible and before anyone goes “oh nick def called for them to run in when the enemy just landed” thats true but if nick had been much more detailed on how he would initiate the fight with the enemy team by saying “we are pushing forward right in there face” it would open up a room for more of the opinions of his mates
Nick spraying for 40 “big damage”
That’s dam near every pro player. 1: “he’s one shot!!!!
2: shoots and gets 70 damage, “you said one shot!!!”
Nick is 100% right. The kids knew they f’d up & doubled down
what happens now that they got 10th place? what would have happened if they got 11th?
GL tonight!
I agree with Nick, he isn't even talking about the actions they did in this game but the fact that they as players Failed to communicate with their IGL that the original plan had changed.
Must be fucking annoying to deal with people who argue the way Deeds does, Nick is clearly trying to move the argument forward and leave any animosity for a later review with a more relaxed environment. Deeds clearly doesn't get it and continues to argue to the point where Nick literally has to state that he is genuinely getting mad. Deeds is a kid, understandable.
Shoulda told them to pop a cell when you dropped on em
I was saying in another vid i really dont think nick should be playing cat and that he should be playing bloodhound. And now here he is playing bloodhound and cooking. Im impressed. He gotta stop with the “big damage” for 40 damage callouts tho lol.
Also nick is 100% right here he got stuck and deeds just dipped on him even tho he was safe under the stairs. Deeds role isnt to make calls its to shoot his gun and follow directions
I think you guys can be serious contenders but you need a coach. You guys need a neutral out of game perspective and a fresh one that can identify your strengths and weaknesses and tweak your comp and macros.
A coach and a designated igl, but I'm ngl nicks mindset is kinda toxic towards his teammates, if that affects team moral/synergy then it can really hinder them
@@tings. You find all competition toxic then. Nick is on the calm side of 90% of igl in apex.
@@tings. I’ll be honest I don’t think he’s that toxic. Doesn’t have his moments of anger sure but it def comes with the territory. In comparison he’s nowhere near as bad at Hal or sweet haha
@@Stretchystrong he's not an igl, and if he is then he's not the right guy for it, and my main reason for saying he's toxic is purely how angry he's getting and then he plays it all off like a child with an attitude, bro literally screamed into his mic because he got fucked up after making a shitty play
@tings. yea we definitely didnt watch the same video lmao. his teammates bitched out of a plan that was established literally 20 seconds before the fight even started. that is 100% on them
Nick looks like he’s playing so well right now, they should be the new faze team
Nick's 100% right in that fight, when you agree to a plan you have to stick to it, its better to die sticking to the plan then bailing on it mid fight. they would've wiped in less than 10 seconds got the res and been ready for next fight. It was the right play and would've worked perfectly if they just trusted him in the moment. If they don't trust his calls he shouldn't be igl cause in situations like that you have to trust the igl completely and go with the call.
Deeds stayed with nic, none of the enemies peaked over nic. Then the other team cat walled the tripods off. At that point deeds commed he is going back with gent which makes sense at that point as the enemy didnt peak and catwalled them off suggesting they will rotate. That was a good call. Deeds was walking towards the end of the catwall to peak around it pressure them and defend their flank. Then two enemies immediately dropped on nic instead of rotating along the otherside of their cat wall. Deeds could have stayed with nic despite no enemy presence on their side of the cat wall in case the enemies baited their wall as they did. Either call would be a good call. In fact, peaking around catwall to flank them by deeds is more aggressive than passively staying with nic with no enemy prescence and them likely rotating opposite their wall
why tf did he just turn around when his team pushed??
Nick is speaking facts, they should of pushed hard as soon as Nick knocked the first guy. Didn’t even need to push but just lay fire immediately.
Nick as IGL, you’re going to go down more often because your processing more info and needing to sct around then just beaming peeps. Hal goes down more than his teammates as well because he’s always scouting the area out. As long as your team understands that. Don’t beat yourself up over it.
50 damage -> "big damage" bro died to zone and died in the open like 4 times, gent carried like crazy. If they can't macro well in a relatively low level lobby pro league, if they make it, will be just as bad as it was last time. This loot forever and have no actual rotation/zone play doesn't work against good teams.
I actually though nick was tripping when i was watching live, but he for sure right here tho
I agree w killing the flying team but they did it early so they could have that platform, but there was never a need to rush until storm pushed them off. & nicks angle was shit tbh, thats why they double swung him. They coulda worked them to get a knock first at least since it was that early. Nicks plan. Wasn’t wrong it just didn’t need to be rushed
nick's cookin
Guy hits 2 people for a total of 30. Big damage big damage
NICK MERCS!! U should be so proud of this performance
watching pods in psq is frustrating. they show flashes of greatness and then they just toss easy points or make bad plays. the fact that they were contesting the boys for so long during finals was such a bad call. even when they were winning the contest, it was really hurting them, especially when eurice and them came to clean it up.
*semis, not finals, my bad
It wasn’t a good push but they agreed that they were committing to the team that flies behind. The fact he called it out beforehand and they didnt argue against it means nick is correct hear me even if it wasn’t the best call.
Totally got world stared
cant jump on gent and deedz so hard when they make mistakes when up until this point im 100% confident i was better than nick and i dont even play anymore and ATLEAST a quarter of the playerbase was better than him aswell he was getting carried and was throwing every fight now he is making good calls having good sense and beaming pretty solid so dont get a big head now because before it was the other way around where deedz literally built his reputation off 1v2ing and 1v3ing fights after nick throws
Nick has been pro before in Gears and Halo. I don't know why anyone is surprised that he's taken on a game as challenging as Quake or CS, AND is controller dominated, and done well.
Nick had the right call. He knocked one and broke the other 2 shields.
holy shit, not even close to the nick 2 years ago. he is really good actually
Nick is right on this
I will give nick his props hes been getting better as a apex pro, but theres is just something missing. Tripods could be a bigger threat than they are.
If he gets more concise with communicating as an igl like sweet he would be elite. And it’s the movement when in tight situations. He needs to move just a lil faster but overall he’s really good
Let's be real, both gent and deeds could join ALGS teams. Deeds purely as a fragger, gent as secondary IGL. They're just sticking with Nick since he got them onto faze as CC's.
@@yolobob3740why are people always talking about Sweet? lol what has he won? For YEARS people compare him to Hal. I don’t get it.
@@TJzWayyy he won over 1 million on earnings he is top 3 undisputed. Don’t refer me to everybody I’m HIM
@@TJzWayyy lol sweet is actually one of my favorite igls. Hes very analytical and not many can breakdown a game like him. The problem with sweets igl’ing is he takes on too much responsibility and he has to be right 100% of the time or it fails. He leaves almost no room for error.
I like this Nick..... Aggressive
As a dumb ass. How was zone the problem when they left Nick to 3 v 1 without good coms of what they were doing?
Nicks Right!! Gotta Clean That Up Fast!! They Could Have Gotten Pinched/3rd Partied Letting Them Co-exist.. 8:49 11:54 All Facts From Nick!! 12:32 Deeds Put The Ego Aside Fam
Nick is right no way you back up when both are that low
Bang ult was past them if they were on Nick tho
Nick might not be the best mechanically but he’s got pretty good leadership qualities
Watching Nickmercs forehead play apex 😂😂
I sint knownif anyone has noticed this but doesnt seem to carry any Explosives(💣⭐️🧨) and some of these plays he could have won or spent less time fighting if he had grenades or arc stars
2.15 hitting 40 big damage
nick dead good in fight but a huge mistake jumping right next to his teamate without calling for arc star stuck on him
Dropping back to hold them was definitely the right call BUT if you elected Nickmercs as your IGL, you have to follow the call that he predicted. It’s a team game
I agree with deeds, but nick has a point especially when they had 3 blues. That area was bad, but again deeds and gent are disgusting. Nick is killing it
"You got stuck by an arc star" yea but you ran away? lmao and didn't come back till Nick had to yell at you that they are 1 hp. Nick was 1v3 that team. His team just made up some random crap to say at 8:55
Edit: Bro really said "but zone was right there" 💀 the excuses are crazy.