Thank you so very much. I watched it all very intently. I used a punch like the ones you showed (with a flat end) but my hammering technique was much more, shall we say, chain-gang-like. I will take all this information and give it another shot before I drill it out. Great video. Helped a lot.
Not only was it good info as always but Scoutcrafter is apparently doing all for the love of it & not money because there are never any ads in his videos. It's free education. Scoutcrafter college....the best value on UA-cam.
@@rickhammar1636 He's a great guy and in many ways drives this UA-cam tool community. But I make my videos for the love of it too. It's certainly not for the pennies I get from being monetized. I do it and I fault no one else if they choose to do it too.
@@mrbenmall Maybe I should clarify my comment. I didn't mean in any way to knock anyone for making money. If I'm ever able to get a channel going I hope it would be good enough to produce some $. My comment was meant more as a thankful appreciation for having someone so willing to help others out. I agree with you, Scoutcrafter is definitely a driver of the community.
Nobody here minds you talking about pins for twenty minutes! :) Thank you. We have a good community here, usually I shy away from telling I collect and restore tools 😂
After 30+ years as a plumber, I have had my share of those stupid factory pins, Because of the mortis type fit, they tend to bend when the pipe wrench is used. Not a lot, just enough to teach anyone near you new words. I now just drill them and replace with roll pins. If I am concerned with the look, I will insert a much smaller soft steel pin through the roll pin and peen that over to give the appearance of a rivet. Love the video keep them coming!!!!
No worries about the run time. You are very informative and easy to listen to. You're like the Bob Ross of tool research and restoration. Always good videos ScoutCrafter.
The taper pins that are used in industrial machines have a threaded hole in it to pull the pin. These are used for precession fit parts. They are formed with a tapered drill. Great video. Young and new techs need to know about these. 👍
You know a project I need to do this year is make some of those wooden cases for pin punches. They are the same as the old ones for center drills. You look on line for a set like the Starrett and others, there will be missing punches or all miss matched but at prices that reflect a complete matching set. Those wood cylinder cases are about the coolest thing so make one that works with a set of punches you can find.
Taper pins are used for work that needs to be disassembled occasionally. On machine tools the older the machine the more often you may encounter them. You do have to look carefully to determine which is the small end. Well made pins often have the large end slightly rounded which helps identify which end is which. If you can't tell if it is a tapered pin try lightly driving the pin. If it doesn't break free try lightly driving from the other end. If it won't move either way it may be a pressed straight pin. Be careful and don't get carried away and start flailing on it. It's not uncommon to have pins under a shear load (like a gear on a shaft) break the pin and the parts have shifted. If this has happened no amount of force is going to push the pin out. Then drilling out may be required. If you think the pin is broken I have had luck welding an extension onto the pin (if it's big enough and you are lucky enough to have the pin protruding a bit) and jerking the broken pieces out with a slide hammer. Cheers from NC/USA
With timber framing joints, I was taught that they offset the joint holes a little on the tongues so that driving the trenail would pull the joint together. Another great video. Good Luck, Rick
THIS is one of your best instructional videos yet. Good information to have,,,now go get em Ben. Those tapered pins are the devils work for sure👹. Another technique used on post and beam construction was to offset the holes a fraction of an inch. They pull the joint apart just slightly then drill through both pieces at the same time. To assemble they drive the joint together then drive the wood peg in to draw the two together.
Great video. My first job out of high school was with a place called Pins Unlimited. They sold every type of pin imaginable. I was in the shipping and receiving department. I never counted more pins in my life. Thousands and thousands and thousands.There are so many different types you brought back some memories. Not sure if they were good or bad. Lol
John, that was so informative, thank you! Awhile back I did a video about Tekton punch set which has a good assortment of all punches including role pins and made in USA 🇺🇸
I am watching these backwards. Very good information. I have been working with tools for years and still learn every time you have a video. Stay safe and healthy my friend. Thanks
Glad I watched this one too. I had a set of pin punches but most of them walked off. LOTS of my stuff walked off but I have enough to do what I need to do. Wherever my stuff walked off to can do the rest. Thanks, John CS! BLESSINGS 2 U!
You're a lifesaver. I'm about to start restoration of a pipe wrench very similar to the one you showed in the video. You convinced me to leave the pin alone and see how it turns out before I tackle that pin (with my limited skills.) Loved learning about the wooden pins too. Very interesting. Keep up the great work! Thanks!
Great video. Educational and fun. This is great educational pin info for someone like me who is a casual shop worker, restorer etc. I never had a shop teacher who could explain tool and hardware subjects as well as you do. Your videos are never too long, and I was very happy to watch both offerings today. Thanks
ScoutCrafter's 4 year anniversary of retirement from the MTA is later this month. Good for you ScoutCrafter!!! I went back to review some March of 2017 installments, to see if you mentioned it back then. Surprised to discover there are 9 episodes missing 3/16 - 4/7/17.
I’m fascinated by what we call in the U.K. “shear pins” that are literally designed to fail, to sacrifice themselves thus saving a more expensive part from destruction. It wasn’t till even later that I learned they even have different shear strengths. Fit the wrong one, the pin doesn’t shear and the expensive part goes bye bye. I presume it’s part of the forging, either temperatures or materials, but I do find intentionally designing for failure, a fascinating tactic.
Hi Sarah! You are so right! For most of us here in the US our first introduction to a shear pin is via the snowblower or lawn mower! =D How many shear pins have been replaced with bolts! LOL
The dreaded tapper pin, bell& howell swing arm inserters from the 40’s to 2000’s. Beat many of them out. Plus there are different hardness’ too. Roll pins are easy out with an old exact sized ground flat drill bits
Think you scoutcrafter. Back in the day when I was in the army I had a first sergeant that always preached "Pay attention to the details." This video parallels with that thinking. Job well done.
Two videos in one day from Scoutcrafter? Get the popcorn out. All you subjects are great. If you find that you have more information to provide than 3x per week, then we are willing to watch 5 or 7 times a week. 😛
I think you should create an Amazon affiliate store. It would make it easier for us to find products you suggest, plus you could make a little money on the side.
Great video, Scout! 18 minutes well spent. Now if someone can teach me how to peen the head of a pin so that it looks like the factory did it, I'd be set.
A two for Monday? I'll take two of your videos any day of the week. Great job! Who would have thought there was so much to say about pins and punches? I never heard of roll-pin punches before. I have had a couple collapse on me. I now realize how much my punch assortment is in need of an upgrade!
Forgot to mention earlier I had a roll pin come out of the gear on my distributor many years ago and brought my car to an instant stop............Also got a section with the pinned mortise and tenon from an old barn about a year ago just for a display and conversation piece.....A lot of those old barns are disappearing fast......Got some beautiful pine with massive knots out of the same barn, you can't find wood like that anymore.
Roll pins like any spring can weaken over time and loose their spring and become loose... The other problem is they are prone to rust inside of everything! LOL
i was hoping you would show a rolled ping as well as the spring pin.... a set of US General pin punches in the wood box (like the Starretts) was one of the first tools i bought a hundred years ago. good video.
Thanks so much for all your videos, this was the first and only thing to bring a smile to my face on a dismal Monday. I watched Ben yesterday and I'm delighted you're helping him, he's a good guy just like you! Keep up the good work!
I just gave this video the 301st upvote. You need to do more videos like this. Maybe start a weekly thing where you answer one viewer's question in this kind of detail. While I knew about pin punches I never thought about all those nuances. I never knew roll spring punches existed but I do remember sharpening my bit like 8 times to get out one underneathe a car.
@@ScoutCrafter Yup. I got lifelong scolisis that is now majorly kicking my ass, too. That is part of the reason I am carless now. I drive an Ebike everywhere I need to go. "Filling my tank" involves plugging in the charger and costs me about 5 cents now. My only worries are flats, of which I have had 2 in the past two weeks despite running flat stop strips.
Great info on pins I had to stop watching about half way though Pinky Tuscadero was on a Happy Days rerun ..I did get back here and finished watching LOL
Mind blown!!! That was a great video. I’ve been in the maintenance field for almost 40 years and I still can learn more. Thanks for the great info. One question, in a lot of your videos you use what you call 50/50. What exactly is that?
Hmm, new project , making split pin punches. An old trick for securing a pin. Cut the pin length wise at an angle, Turns it into two wedges. Then drive them in from both sides of the hole. If there's a thin lip sticking out, bend it over and that locks it in.
Thank you so very much. I watched it all very intently. I used a punch like the ones you showed (with a flat end) but my hammering technique was much more, shall we say, chain-gang-like. I will take all this information and give it another shot before I drill it out.
Great video. Helped a lot.
Ben- Hope it helped... Nothing wrong with drilling out a pin when it is accessible. A little more difficult when the pin is hard to get to. 😃👍
Not only was it good info as always but Scoutcrafter is apparently doing all for the love of it & not money because there are never any ads in his videos. It's free education. Scoutcrafter college....the best value on UA-cam.
@@rickhammar1636 He's a great guy and in many ways drives this UA-cam tool community. But I make my videos for the love of it too. It's certainly not for the pennies I get from being monetized. I do it and I fault no one else if they choose to do it too.
@@mrbenmall Maybe I should clarify my comment. I didn't mean in any way to knock anyone for making money. If I'm ever able to get a channel going I hope it would be good enough to produce some $. My comment was meant more as a thankful appreciation for having someone so willing to help others out. I agree with you, Scoutcrafter is definitely a driver of the community.
Excellent "pins 101" tutorial!
Nobody here minds you talking about pins for twenty minutes! :) Thank you. We have a good community here, usually I shy away from telling I collect and restore tools 😂
After 30+ years as a plumber, I have had my share of those stupid factory pins, Because of the mortis type fit, they tend to bend when the pipe wrench is used. Not a lot, just enough to teach anyone near you new words. I now just drill them and replace with roll pins. If I am concerned with the look, I will insert a much smaller soft steel pin through the roll pin and peen that over to give the appearance of a rivet. Love the video keep them coming!!!!
Patrick- Great info!!!!
No worries about the run time. You are very informative and easy to listen to. You're like the Bob Ross of tool research and restoration. Always good videos ScoutCrafter.
Great video very very good video thanks for sharing your time and skill ☕☕👍👍😷🇬🇧
The taper pins that are used in industrial machines have a threaded hole in it to pull the pin. These are used for precession fit parts. They are formed with a tapered drill. Great video. Young and new techs need to know about these. 👍
You know a project I need to do this year is make some of those wooden cases for pin punches. They are the same as the old ones for center drills. You look on line for a set like the Starrett and others, there will be missing punches or all miss matched but at prices that reflect a complete matching set. Those wood cylinder cases are about the coolest thing so make one that works with a set of punches you can find.
Taper pins are used for work that needs to be disassembled occasionally. On machine tools the older the machine the more often you may encounter them. You do have to look carefully to determine which is the small end. Well made pins often have the large end slightly rounded which helps identify which end is which.
If you can't tell if it is a tapered pin try lightly driving the pin. If it doesn't break free try lightly driving from the other end. If it won't move either way it may be a pressed straight pin. Be careful and don't get carried away and start flailing on it. It's not uncommon to have pins under a shear load (like a gear on a shaft) break the pin and the parts have shifted. If this has happened no amount of force is going to push the pin out. Then drilling out may be required. If you think the pin is broken I have had luck welding an extension onto the pin (if it's big enough and you are lucky enough to have the pin protruding a bit) and jerking the broken pieces out with a slide hammer.
Cheers from NC/USA
I like the slide-hammer trick!!!!!! Thanks!
Loved this!! More please
With timber framing joints, I was taught that they offset the joint holes a little on the tongues so that driving the trenail would pull the joint together. Another great video. Good Luck, Rick
Hi Rick! Yes on some joints they do, they also do that in some metalworking applications!
"The evil tapered pin" 😂 if we're talking evil fasteners, the spring retaining clip might have the crown for most evil
Only when they try to blind you 🤪
Thanks for the shout out. Those punches are fun to make. Great talk about pins and punches, well done Scout.
THIS is one of your best instructional videos yet. Good information to have,,,now go get em Ben. Those tapered pins are the devils work for sure👹. Another technique used on post and beam construction was to offset the holes a fraction of an inch. They pull the joint apart just slightly then drill through both pieces at the same time. To assemble they drive the joint together then drive the wood peg in to draw the two together.
Yes! The Do pin drawing in metal too! 😃👍
John, you don't really want me to skip this video and go to the 2nd one and miss all this Scout Crafter knowledge ! I'm staying! Lol.✌Roger
For me that was an excellent tutorial , very much appreciated. Thanks
Thanks great information .John your videos are never to long
Power pill of info in this one. I scrap and disassemble stuff with pins often.
Roll pin punch- genius.
This is very valuable information. You could teach classes and give seminars. Very well explained and shown 🐱👍
Very interesting. Those tapered pins do look evil. Especially if a person has been hammering on the wrong end for a while.
That was me!!! 😂👍
Great video. My first job out of high school was with a place called Pins Unlimited. They sold every type of pin imaginable. I was in the shipping and receiving department. I never counted more pins in my life. Thousands and thousands and thousands.There are so many different types you brought back some memories. Not sure if they were good or bad. Lol
Wow! Phil I bet you have seen a ton of pins!!!! Awesome!!!!!
Very interesting. Thanks Ben for asking for help!
And thank You John for the video
You should never apologize for a video that runs a little longer. That’s like Santa apologizing for giving a child what they wanted for Christmas.
“Im no expert on pins, but”......lol. Yes you are John, yes you are.
John, that was so informative, thank you! Awhile back I did a video about Tekton punch set which has a good assortment of all punches including role pins and made in USA 🇺🇸
Hi Tom! Tekton makes good stuff!
I can’t believe how much I learn from you. You would have been an awesome industrial arts teacher. Thanks again Scout Crafter!
Great video thanks. Now i need a set of roll pin punches :) It grinds my gears when someone uses a centre punch to knock a pin out.
I am watching these backwards. Very good information. I have been working with tools for years and still learn every time you have a video. Stay safe and healthy my friend. Thanks
Glad I watched this one too. I had a set of pin punches but most of them walked off. LOTS of my stuff walked off but I have enough to do what I need to do. Wherever my stuff walked off to can do the rest. Thanks, John CS! BLESSINGS 2 U!
You're a lifesaver. I'm about to start restoration of a pipe wrench very similar to the one you showed in the video. You convinced me to leave the pin alone and see how it turns out before I tackle that pin (with my limited skills.)
Loved learning about the wooden pins too. Very interesting.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks!
Great video. Educational and fun. This is great educational pin info for someone like me who is a casual shop worker, restorer etc. I never had a shop teacher who could explain tool and hardware subjects as well as you do. Your videos are never too long, and I was very happy to watch both offerings today. Thanks
ScoutCrafter's 4 year anniversary of retirement from the MTA is later this month. Good for you ScoutCrafter!!! I went back to review some March of 2017 installments, to see if you mentioned it back then. Surprised to discover there are 9 episodes missing 3/16 - 4/7/17.
Hi John- It went so fast...
I’m fascinated by what we call in the U.K. “shear pins” that are literally designed to fail, to sacrifice themselves thus saving a more expensive part from destruction. It wasn’t till even later that I learned they even have different shear strengths. Fit the wrong one, the pin doesn’t shear and the expensive part goes bye bye. I presume it’s part of the forging, either temperatures or materials, but I do find intentionally designing for failure, a fascinating tactic.
Hi Sarah! You are so right! For most of us here in the US our first introduction to a shear pin is via the snowblower or lawn mower! =D How many shear pins have been replaced with bolts! LOL
You are a great teacher, ScoutCrafter. Great video! Fun!
I just want to say "THANK YOU" ! I love the Learning part of the TOOL & RESTORATION Community! 🔨👍😁👍🔧
This is a video I wish I would have seen 40 years ago. It would have saved me A LOT of pain and agony.
I really like and appreciate informative videos like this one :-)
Love your pin punch sets. VERY nice!!
The dreaded tapper pin, bell& howell swing arm inserters from the 40’s to 2000’s. Beat many of them out. Plus there are different hardness’ too.
Roll pins are easy out with an old exact sized ground flat drill bits
Think you scoutcrafter. Back in the day when I was in the army I had a first sergeant that always preached "Pay attention to the details." This video parallels with that thinking. Job well done.
Two videos in one day from Scoutcrafter? Get the popcorn out. All you subjects are great. If you find that you have more information to provide than 3x per week, then we are willing to watch 5 or 7 times a week. 😛
Great information John. Thank you.
I think you should create an Amazon affiliate store. It would make it easier for us to find products you suggest, plus you could make a little money on the side.
Great detail information on types of pins. Roll pin punch set is very handy to have when needed.
Great video, Scout! 18 minutes well spent. Now if someone can teach me how to peen the head of a pin so that it looks like the factory did it, I'd be set.
Enjoyed both video's John. Keep em coming and don't worry about the time. I'll still watch!
Thanks for explaining the different punches and their uses.
ScoutCrafter’s Archie Bunker’s Son-In-Law episode - aka ScoutCrafter’s Archie Bunker’s Pinhead episode.
Thanks for the detailed explanation of various types of pins. Very informative & educational!
I sure learn a lot from your videos.
Thanks for taking the time to make and post them.
Have a Jesus filled day everyone
Greg in Michigan
Watching and listening carefully, signing out from the Evil Genius in the Uk lol 😂
S.C. Thanks for the excellent explanation.. I'd say most of us learned something from that video.. God Bless and take care..
Wow! Again, so much knowledge shared. I have had my share of pin problems for sure! Well done.
Such great information scout love the information great video
God bless take care 👍🗽🙏🇺🇸🇳🇿
You forgot a kinda common one, Scout, the grooved pin. OK, now I'll shut up.
Learned a lot from this one! I personally dig the in depth explanations of how to's. Thanks!
You should have been a shop teacher. You have a knack of taking the most mundane subject and making it interesting. I even liked your pencil video!
A two for Monday? I'll take two of your videos any day of the week. Great job! Who would have thought there was so much to say about pins and punches? I never heard of roll-pin punches before. I have had a couple collapse on me. I now realize how much my punch assortment is in need of an upgrade!
Informative as always! Thanks for sharing, John.
I don’t think you need to put out two videos this video was great really enjoyed it :-)
This is a video every 12 year old needs to watch
Forgot to mention earlier I had a roll pin come out of the gear on my distributor many years ago and brought my car to an instant stop............Also got a section with the pinned mortise and tenon from an old barn about a year ago just for a display and conversation piece.....A lot of those old barns are disappearing fast......Got some beautiful pine with massive knots out of the same barn, you can't find wood like that anymore.
Roll pins like any spring can weaken over time and loose their spring and become loose... The other problem is they are prone to rust inside of everything! LOL
Great discussion on pins. Thank you
Never heard of a "roll pin punch". I guess the old dog learned a new trick today.
*Two Videos ~ Multiple Monday*
Hopefully Ben survived, I know he was in bed after having a reaction to his second Vaccine Shot.
Very exciting video! I was on "pins" & needles for the whole thing!
Great info Thanks SC
...great info, stay safe..
The finger pointer should make an appearance every video! Great job as usual!
16:30 Try using a Palm Nailer & Punch, instead of a Hammer & Punch, to remove the 'pin'!
Think smarter, not harder!
i was hoping you would show a rolled ping as well as the spring pin.... a set of US General pin punches in the wood box (like the Starretts) was one of the first tools i bought a hundred years ago. good video.
That was interesting! Thanks for sharing this information.
Good information. Thanks 😊!!
Lovely content.Thank you friend
Thanks so much for all your videos, this was the first and only thing to bring a smile to my face on a dismal Monday. I watched Ben yesterday and I'm delighted you're helping him, he's a good guy just like you! Keep up the good work!
I just gave this video the 301st upvote. You need to do more videos like this. Maybe start a weekly thing where you answer one viewer's question in this kind of detail. While I knew about pin punches I never thought about all those nuances. I never knew roll spring punches existed but I do remember sharpening my bit like 8 times to get out one underneathe a car.
Working under a car is no fun after 30! =D I remember when I was a kid it was no problem, now everything hurts! LOL
@@ScoutCrafter Yup. I got lifelong scolisis that is now majorly kicking my ass, too. That is part of the reason I am carless now. I drive an Ebike everywhere I need to go. "Filling my tank" involves plugging in the charger and costs me about 5 cents now. My only worries are flats, of which I have had 2 in the past two weeks despite running flat stop strips.
Great info!!
Thanks John it was very informative
Awesome video John...very informative.
Well I learned lots today!
Great info on pins I had to stop watching about half way though Pinky Tuscadero was on a Happy Days rerun ..I did get back here and finished watching LOL
Great info
Southcrafter on my lunch break sure beats shop talk with the guys
Very useful information!
Good info crafterman..stay safe...
Ooohh!!! Good to know. 👌
Super interesting, thanks a lot !
Pins can be bent slightly thus increasing their holding power.
Mind blown!!! That was a great video. I’ve been in the maintenance field for almost 40 years and I still can learn more. Thanks for the great info. One question, in a lot of your videos you use what you call 50/50. What exactly is that?
Hi Jerome! That is a mix of 50% Acetone and 50% Automatic Transmission Fluid... Best penetrating fluid ever!!! =D
@@ScoutCrafter Thanks, I’m going to mix up a batch tomorrow.
Interesting stuff, Thanks 🛠👍😊
Hmm, new project , making split pin punches. An old trick for securing a pin. Cut the pin length wise at an angle, Turns it into two wedges. Then drive them in from both sides of the hole. If there's a thin lip sticking out, bend it over and that locks it in.
Thanks for the instructive video ...Pins and rivets are such a pain 😁
#littlerestorers
Good video, I think you did justice to Bens question.
Hello from uk.
WOW GREAT VIDEO SCOUT
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐👍
I am going to call this video Pinterest.
That's interesting on pins thanks
Which of those did our parents have in mind when they threatened to pin our ears back?
Don't the amish still build barns with wooden pegs and no nails?
They have stepped up their game to quite modern building as to remain competitive however I bet they still know how to fabricate the old way! =D
Waching