One of the most important aspects of this technique is moving your chest to the bars and back to weight and unweight the front end. Watch how Jarvis does it by moving his whole body towards the front and pivoting from his foot/knee, compared to how most of the students were doing it by pivoting at the waist and neck to try and get their head towards the bars......The students were getting tired quickly from poor technique until graham shows them the way...big difference! This is how the pros make everything look easy...good technique uses the bikes energy, not yours!
Helps a lot to work against the front brake too. Your advice about not using waist and upper body is true for most things, most weight transfer is done with lower body from hips down, upper body generally stays pretty neutral, like head doesnt move much no matter what.
@@zynx142 I think more rebound makes it easier, and I know Mario Roman runs his clickers all the way out. You can still do it with firm, even MX suspension but it definitely doesnt make things easier.
GJ makes everything look so dang smooth and easy, it's amazing how difficult it can be accomplishing these so called "simple"maneuvers and not looking like you're having a seizure. Great vid
A friend tried to explain this move to me while I was stuck , in the trails , I couldn't do it at all at first. Now I'm going to practice this , thanks for the awesome video once again!
Very cool, thank you. Never ceases to amaze me how effortless everything is with good technique. And 10'000 hours of practice... I guess same as most subscribers I do a fair bit of practice but remain resolutely useless at pivot turns, zaps, floating turns and finding traction on command. I can't even guarantee a little wheelie. What I have noticed out in the wild is that a lot of these techniques just seem to miraculously happen without me thinking about it. When I'm on terrain way beyond my skill level and trying to avoid a heart attack my brain is picking lines way ahead of me, not focused on what is immediately ahead, things seem to happen subliminally. I just wish it was a lot more consistent so I fall off less. Had a bad limp for over a week now..
short legs are definitely a disadvantage for technical work, but even Jarvis is not that tall. I would say he is roughly my size (5'11")....This is where balance makes up for height!
@@PrimalEnduro Its not that difficult when I have 1 foot on a higher bank or a rock on singletrack. On flat a surface to practice. Forget it.. The bike will flop on its side because the only way to have 1 foot on the ground is to have your bike lean sideways. No way I can have my right foot on the rear brake and right foot on the ground at the same time. I think your standard of short is us short guys standard for tall. 5'8 here on a good day. :)
@LR T yes! I'm just under 5'8" & I can tell you that shorter guys definitely have to put a lot more effort into the same techniques on a full size bike. Give me a kx65 and everything is ridiculously easier. In fact I recommend shorter guys learning the techniques on a smaller bike then transfer that to a full sized. It will save yourself a ton of frustration and possible injury.
I find this video very informative, yet it is also funny (wide smile on mi face) at the same time while others are trying and figuring out how to do it xD edit: and then I started laughing at 4:18 ahaha.
I have seen it all now. This is like watching second graders make there first paper airplane. Hes sitting on the back of his seat when he does it then the one dudes sitting in the center asking why he cant do it!? Lol. Sheesh look at the belly at 3:20.... forgot his Jersey at home. Man that's some funny stuff.
Because he's using good technique he can be loose and not rely on strength..making the bike do the work. Everyone else (me included) is trying to man handle the bike because they haven't learned the technique yet. With time and practice comes smoothness.
@@PrimalEnduro yes, I agree 100% I'm just thinking, if the idea is to let the front forks help with lifting up the front wheel, wouldn't a soft/slow rebound setting make this harder to do? Which would be even better to do the practice, then adjusting the rebound back to "normal" and you do it even better?? Just trying to understand the logic 😄
@@elcoviljoen3025 obviously I'm not Jarvis, but I think it's more to do with the timing. The fork is going to rebound at whatever speed you have it set to. The trick is to catch the timing. If you change this just to practice then when you are riding the timing will be off. I've found that it's better to just compress and then move your body immediately....if you try to "wait for the rebound" you will miss it. But I'm no teacher so your mileage may vary!
One of the most important aspects of this technique is moving your chest to the bars and back to weight and unweight the front end. Watch how Jarvis does it by moving his whole body towards the front and pivoting from his foot/knee, compared to how most of the students were doing it by pivoting at the waist and neck to try and get their head towards the bars......The students were getting tired quickly from poor technique until graham shows them the way...big difference! This is how the pros make everything look easy...good technique uses the bikes energy, not yours!
And going to fully extended arms unlike what most of us were doing.
@@exozx6r Good point! He kept emphasizing leaning back with arms fully extended!
Helps a lot to work against the front brake too. Your advice about not using waist and upper body is true for most things, most weight transfer is done with lower body from hips down, upper body generally stays pretty neutral, like head doesnt move much no matter what.
How important is the rebound setting for this move? Seems like the more open, the easier?
@@zynx142 I think more rebound makes it easier, and I know Mario Roman runs his clickers all the way out. You can still do it with firm, even MX suspension but it definitely doesnt make things easier.
GJ makes everything look so dang smooth and easy, it's amazing how difficult it can be accomplishing these so called "simple"maneuvers and not looking like you're having a seizure. Great vid
My riding style has often been described as a series of seizures strung together!
A friend tried to explain this move to me while I was stuck , in the trails , I couldn't do it at all at first. Now I'm going to practice this , thanks for the awesome video once again!
Very cool, thank you. Never ceases to amaze me how effortless everything is with good technique. And 10'000 hours of practice... I guess same as most subscribers I do a fair bit of practice but remain resolutely useless at pivot turns, zaps, floating turns and finding traction on command. I can't even guarantee a little wheelie. What I have noticed out in the wild is that a lot of these techniques just seem to miraculously happen without me thinking about it. When I'm on terrain way beyond my skill level and trying to avoid a heart attack my brain is picking lines way ahead of me, not focused on what is immediately ahead, things seem to happen subliminally. I just wish it was a lot more consistent so I fall off less. Had a bad limp for over a week now..
The right suspension settings help a ton too.
Graham does appear to get his butt back to very end of the seat in this technique.
WP suspension: We are the best for technical enduro moves
KYB: 4:30 hold my beer
So true!
Not enough pink tootoos to go around for this vid :P
Can never have enough around here!
Difficult with short legs. The guy in the light blue pants would agree.
short legs are definitely a disadvantage for technical work, but even Jarvis is not that tall. I would say he is roughly my size (5'11")....This is where balance makes up for height!
@@PrimalEnduro Its not that difficult when I have 1 foot on a higher bank or a rock on singletrack. On flat a surface to practice. Forget it.. The bike will flop on its side because the only way to have 1 foot on the ground is to have your bike lean sideways. No way I can have my right foot on the rear brake and right foot on the ground at the same time. I think your standard of short is us short guys standard for tall. 5'8 here on a good day. :)
@LR T yes! I'm just under 5'8" & I can tell you that shorter guys definitely have to put a lot more effort into the same techniques on a full size bike. Give me a kx65 and everything is ridiculously easier. In fact I recommend shorter guys learning the techniques on a smaller bike then transfer that to a full sized. It will save yourself a ton of frustration and possible injury.
I taught him that
No doubt!
Pull back, not up ;)
I find this video very informative, yet it is also funny (wide smile on mi face) at the same time while others are trying and figuring out how to do it xD edit: and then I started laughing at 4:18 ahaha.
I have seen it all now. This is like watching second graders make there first paper airplane. Hes sitting on the back of his seat when he does it then the one dudes sitting in the center asking why he cant do it!? Lol. Sheesh look at the belly at 3:20.... forgot his Jersey at home. Man that's some funny stuff.
You would be surprised at how fast the chubby fellow is! He takes his jersey off just for laughs...he's a good sport!
@@PrimalEnduro That's awesome. Whole new respect for that dude now haha. Pullin for him
@@ChasinTrails his UA-cam channel is Fat Enduro by Don Joy.ua-cam.com/users/exozx6r
Sounds like Mr. Graham wears sidi.
The guy on the yammy is darn consistent 👍
No mistaking the sound of a Sidi crossfire! The guy on the Yamaha is very good, he's part of the Zachatk1 crew!
@@PrimalEnduro I 3rd the squeaky SIDI
Excellent video! Thank you so much 😊
He is so smooth and everyone looks so robotic
Because he's using good technique he can be loose and not rely on strength..making the bike do the work. Everyone else (me included) is trying to man handle the bike because they haven't learned the technique yet. With time and practice comes smoothness.
@Chad Hebert Trials is the real secret everyone needs more of in their life!
Its a long process . When you done that a billion times , you get smooth aswell :)
This is awesome, thanks!🤘
Practice make Progress!
Great vid. Can hear Jarvis well
Insane
Yamaha guy wasn’t doing the compression thing he talked about. He was just popping the clutch
up is up! LOL
The YZ250F does it well
Klx mana bisa bgini 😂
Ending music was spot on.
Its all about saving the energy
That's how Jarvis keeps up with the young guns!
Look at em all
Ha😂 , id love to learn how to do a bounce turn from jarvis !!!
Super
The best part of these videos is the music when the average riders try hero stuff :)
That music could be the theme track to every one of my rides!
Yea, love the music you play on these vids when guys are trying the tricks out.
Will different shock settings make this easier/more difficult?
I hear that music in my head while I'm riding. Concerning the shock, It's all in the technique...not the bike!
@@PrimalEnduro yes, I agree 100%
I'm just thinking, if the idea is to let the front forks help with lifting up the front wheel, wouldn't a soft/slow rebound setting make this harder to do?
Which would be even better to do the practice, then adjusting the rebound back to "normal" and you do it even better??
Just trying to understand the logic 😄
@@elcoviljoen3025 obviously I'm not Jarvis, but I think it's more to do with the timing. The fork is going to rebound at whatever speed you have it set to. The trick is to catch the timing. If you change this just to practice then when you are riding the timing will be off. I've found that it's better to just compress and then move your body immediately....if you try to "wait for the rebound" you will miss it. But I'm no teacher so your mileage may vary!
I can’t do it at all and i can’t say I’m so weak 85kg / 174cm
And to think they're paying for this ...
lol, I say that during every race I enter! Usually about half way in.