I bought your future authoring programme and I’m excited to complete it! I’ve been watching your lectures for a couple of years now and they have helped me recover from anorexia and succeed in university!!
@@thechairman6617 Oh yeah, I hadn't realised that I imagined the brain damage content of your comment. Moral of that is, read comments at least twice before leaping to comment. Sorry about that
... most of us don't have time to socialise even now outside work... I relocated alone 7 times and have never been able to settle... don't assume traveling makes a diverse situation better because of modern travel with relocation... I've done this myself for work and at 42 I am left completely without friends.... isolated in a foreign country... the past had the opposite problem with limited mobility... but I would say life was slower and less frenetic... stress worldwide is high now and so is suicide...
@@dn1697 it is difficult to grasp! Funny, I have lived in 5 different countries from east to west & traveled much more. It is fascinating that how we move, learn & change. At 51 I don't & see the life with & without new bio-elctronic tech & so confused which is better? Take a self drive car but don't know where to go or walk to the next water well to drink but enjoy the nature!
As a history graduate, I get this often. They say the good old days were better, so I ask them what they consider a better time in history, then I begin listing all the issues that plagued that time period, how limited they were in education and technologically, and the common mindset of society at the time.
Human beings prefer simplicity. If you want to turn people in Marxists and socialists, and for them to hate you convince them of the complexities and actual, unnoticed, real sufferings of the human condition that's always been bubbling under the surface of consciousness. The human impulse to simplify the world through action can drive them mad. Don't forget, we are a species that nearly drove the grey wolf extinct at one point in history for very similar reasons.
We are terrible at taking a careful look at the past and bringing forward with us what was valuable for our fore bearers. We are entirely too good at dismissing the old in favor of the new and I kind of wonder if paradoxically our romanticizing of the past contributes to that? I mean if the past was somehow unattainably better then we can avoid having to look at it in honesty and see the good and the bad. It's hard to bring forward the good without the contrast of the bad.
The times I find that I'm at my happiest are when I've consumed the least and worked to create or manage those things ive consumed myself. Older times may not be sunshine and rainbows but it does hold appeal for a lot of people. Everytime in history has a give and take. Your proclivity to that relationship will determine your preferences for being in that time frame.
2:51 Only the wealthy had spoons in the 1800s. If a family had spoons, they were a sign of wealth. The spoons were displayed in full view in the home of the average household, rarely if ever used for eating. Many people in modern day will collect spoons for display, not realizing why people used to display spoons on a rack. The fork is the most recently invented. Don't get me started on sporks! People ate mostly with their hands & fingers if they were not wealthy. I thought those tidbits might be interesting. Much love to you, Dr. Peterson! It's great to see you, again.
But wooden spoons were a thing. It wasn’t hard and still isn’t hard today to make a wooden spoon. But you had to work to make that. And it wouldn’t last but only a year or two if used all the time
@@dustyandsneezing True. I wonder, if a child or teen ager spent time making their own eating utensils, if they would be punished for using their time plus the materials to make their own forks & spoons.
Wooden spoons could be easily made, although crappy. So hands and crappy wooden spoons were used. I think what you meant is nice spoons. Or silverware. The rich throughout time always had a much nicer version of whatever crap the poor had.
@@DC-gh6dy The rich or other classes have zero influence as to what station in life they are born into. It seems to me that it may, I say, may be more feasible for someone to work their way into a higher income bracket. Dr. Peterson, himself, is proof of that.
... most of us don't have time to socialise even now outside work... I relocated alone 7 times and have never been able to settle... don't assume traveling makes a diverse situation better because of modern travel with relocation... I've done this myself for work and at 42 I am left completely without friends.... isolated in a foreign country... the past had the opposite problem with limited mobility... but I would say life was slower and less frenetic... stress worldwide is high now and so is suicide...
Me when anyone says _"it's a really deep idea you know"_ : *are you so sure ? Don't think so; can you please elaborate?* when J.B. Peterson _"and that, that's a very deep idea, man"_ : *Crawl back into my chair for fear of falling into Nothingness if he starts to elaborate*
Nothingness? To me it's the greatest creature comfort I have ever experienced in my life. Just to know that a mind so in tune with existence from just analyzing the data can exist gives validation to the path I have chosen. Which is that of anti-organized religion, pro mythology based spirituality(that is to say I do not worship but have reserved the highest postion in the hierarchy for something transcendent)ruling a blue collar lifestyle with commitment to endure all with an undying pride in the truth. It's true that this path leads to a loss of the romantized reality but the ecstasy found in a love born from the will to overcome adversary I have found to be unequaled in the mortal coil. That concept strikes hot at the core of what doctor Peterson is trying to teach us, honesty with yourself and reality results in the most meaningful existence. Individualism is the savior of our souls and that is why the distillation of 200k years of human knowledge = Jesus Christ, the avatar of individualism. OR if you need a secular scientific version of that look no further than Dr. Jordan B Peterson. THE Einstein of MY generation.
If given the choice of having my current life and being a king in the 18th century, I'd choose the current life everytime. Arguably, I have better living conditions now than it was possible in that time. I'm a very big fan of not dying in my youth.
trump is a humanitarian who has promoted human rights in china who caused 2nd modern holocaust in history ---while "democrats" want to "help" china or tell us how china is americas "friend" --- dont ever let the propoganda or any government aspect of "establishment" MAKE A FOOL OUT OF YOU --- vote corrupt chinese backed politicians out of your country !!!!!
Jordan what's up with the online university I'm hungry I'm trying to get associated fundementally with the best of the world I don't need but guess I want some heavy teachers
I hope you're feeling better Jay don't give out medication these days it's used to just 3 hours sleep post-traumatic stress that bad the home invasion 5l bashed and other things I voice text shaky so that's no full stops you've been an inspiration to me I might be dead without people like you suffer from some personal things also yes yes know white privilege I've been on the public housing list for over 15 years and I'm not even on cattery one
To be fair, despite all of our progress and prosperity ( and because of it ) humanity is now dealing with a series of dilemmas including exponential population growth, unprecedented pandemics, raging inflation, historical weather events, food shortages and insecurities and curiously biased and non impartial scientific conclusions conspicuously reflecting governments stance. Scientists and science will become obsolete and God I'd rumoured to be dead. I enjoy your discussions 👍
I’d much rather use an outhouse, heat my home and water with a wood boiler, build my house out of mud and stones and have dirt floors than shell out all the money to inspectors and industrialized materials and utility companies. The standard of living is so high in North America that it’s financially crushing us
The pandemic lockdowns have shown us that the United States is not really a "wealthy" country. Most American families had practically no savings and plenty of debt before the lockdowns, and now they are even worse off than before. It's interesting to me that the median Australian's net worth is about three times the figure for the median American's net worth. Australians are objectively just stronger financially on average than Americans.
Human beings prefer simplicity. If you want to turn people into Marxists and socialists, and for them to hate you, convince them of the complexities and actual, real, unnoticed sufferings of the human condition that's always been bubbling under the surface of consciousness. The human impulse to simplify the world through action can drive them mad. Complexity of our environment drives men mad. Don't forget, we are a species that nearly drove the grey wolf extinct at one point in history for very similar reasons.
this world truly is a kind of hell. I would almost say that the nature of evil is from the corruptible nature which bites and devours. would I even have sin if I was not a corruptible human being? would I have sin if I can simply will myself to not have the evil compulsions that makes me sad and if I could easily obtain all that I wish? this world exposes a kind of fault in Immortal beings, supposedly. as a demigod I could simply do away with boredom by willing it to not be a concept. though I cannot see it clearly I understand that the world does have enough usefulness to justify it. but now most people are lost in a dream. I hear that atheism is just a continuation of the fad of being blinded by this reality. I understand the true nature of some of these atheist, that they are angels from above. they seek to do good even when they believe that they are nothing and that God, the ultimate goodness and truth, is not. for me, I exceeded in not believing this reality is the ultimate. you have to keep sending angels to the world if you want demons to be tempted into a kind of possible human reformation.
I grew up poor on a farm in America. But my husband grew up poor on a farm in Mexico! There’s no comparison. It’s like growing up in different time periods except we didn’t. My family always had food, heat, running water, cars. My husband is an incredibly hard worker because of this and reminds me what a wonderful country we live in and to always be grateful. He’s more patriotic to the United States than most native born Americans. We often joke he’ll have the best when I was your age stories for our grandchildren.
So glad to see you're back to your former self Professor Peterson.
I bought your future authoring programme and I’m excited to complete it! I’ve been watching your lectures for a couple of years now and they have helped me recover from anorexia and succeed in university!!
i guess its great for damaged or mentally ill ppl
@@thechairman6617 Dr Peterson has said as much before. It works best for people that aren't doing so well.
Not sure about the brain damage though.
@@letsgoBrandon204 i meant enotionally damaged....
@@letsgoBrandon204 maybe a great first step....still a long way to go and learn about this filthy world !
@@thechairman6617 Oh yeah, I hadn't realised that I imagined the brain damage content of your comment.
Moral of that is, read comments at least twice before leaping to comment.
Sorry about that
So good. I can't stand people who act like the past was so much better or that nature isn't trying to kill us in cruel ways
It is wonderful to see you back Professor, we send you all the love you deserve
Much love, Dr Peterson!
Lifestyle was simpler but difficult, now it's easier but more complex! Thank you prof. & looking forward to have more of yours & ur guests' knowledge.
... most of us don't have time to socialise even now outside work... I relocated alone 7 times and have never been able to settle... don't assume traveling makes a diverse situation better because of modern travel with relocation... I've done this myself for work and at 42 I am left completely without friends.... isolated in a foreign country... the past had the opposite problem with limited mobility... but I would say life was slower and less frenetic... stress worldwide is high now and so is suicide...
@@dn1697 it is difficult to grasp! Funny, I have lived in 5 different countries from east to west & traveled much more. It is fascinating that how we move, learn & change. At 51 I don't & see the life with & without new bio-elctronic tech & so confused which is better? Take a self drive car but don't know where to go or walk to the next water well to drink but enjoy the nature!
As a history graduate, I get this often. They say the good old days were better, so I ask them what they consider a better time in history, then I begin listing all the issues that plagued that time period, how limited they were in education and technologically, and the common mindset of society at the time.
nerd.
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@@thechairman6617 😂😂😂
@@Arthur_Wellesley 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Human beings prefer simplicity.
If you want to turn people in Marxists and socialists, and for them to hate you convince them of the complexities and actual, unnoticed, real sufferings of the human condition that's always been bubbling under the surface of consciousness.
The human impulse to simplify the world through action can drive them mad.
Don't forget, we are a species that nearly drove the grey wolf extinct at one point in history for very similar reasons.
Just completely on a different level. Stunning.
Love you dr Peterson you have saved my life rn and have helped me infinitely going forward.
Thank you Jordan. Your words have given my life more meaning.
Good to see you back dr Peterson !!
The book mentioned is:
"The Rational Optimist" by Matt Ridley
Praise be for your ongoing recovery.
Thank you, JBP!!
I suppose it's funny in a bleack-hearted kind of way.
I love, Matt. He taught me so much that I value and others detest.
very nice to see JP combining a bit of his psyche specialized knowledge to the current economic system
We are terrible at taking a careful look at the past and bringing forward with us what was valuable for our fore bearers. We are entirely too good at dismissing the old in favor of the new and I kind of wonder if paradoxically our romanticizing of the past contributes to that? I mean if the past was somehow unattainably better then we can avoid having to look at it in honesty and see the good and the bad. It's hard to bring forward the good without the contrast of the bad.
So good to see more videos from you, thank you!
The times I find that I'm at my happiest are when I've consumed the least and worked to create or manage those things ive consumed myself. Older times may not be sunshine and rainbows but it does hold appeal for a lot of people. Everytime in history has a give and take. Your proclivity to that relationship will determine your preferences for being in that time frame.
I liked this a lot!
Jordan is back.
2:51 Only the wealthy had spoons in the 1800s. If a family had spoons, they were a sign of wealth. The spoons were displayed in full view in the home of the average household, rarely if ever used for eating. Many people in modern day will collect spoons for display, not realizing why people used to display spoons on a rack. The fork is the most recently invented. Don't get me started on sporks!
People ate mostly with their hands & fingers if they were not wealthy. I thought those tidbits might be interesting.
Much love to you, Dr. Peterson! It's great to see you, again.
But wooden spoons were a thing. It wasn’t hard and still isn’t hard today to make a wooden spoon. But you had to work to make that. And it wouldn’t last but only a year or two if used all the time
@@dustyandsneezing True. I wonder, if a child or teen ager spent time making their own eating utensils, if they would be punished for using their time plus the materials to make their own forks & spoons.
Wooden spoons could be easily made, although crappy. So hands and crappy wooden spoons were used. I think what you meant is nice spoons. Or silverware. The rich throughout time always had a much nicer version of whatever crap the poor had.
@@DC-gh6dy The rich or other classes have zero influence as to what station in life they are born into. It seems to me that it may, I say, may be more feasible for someone to work their way into a higher income bracket. Dr. Peterson, himself, is proof of that.
He's back to his full power!
1:36 , Didn't see him coming
Thanks for the headsup. Yeah it was abrupt. Jumpscare.
I laughed way more than I should have
Yes!
Looking healthy and good dr.
... most of us don't have time to socialise even now outside work... I relocated alone 7 times and have never been able to settle... don't assume traveling makes a diverse situation better because of modern travel with relocation... I've done this myself for work and at 42 I am left completely without friends.... isolated in a foreign country... the past had the opposite problem with limited mobility... but I would say life was slower and less frenetic... stress worldwide is high now and so is suicide...
Me when anyone says _"it's a really deep idea you know"_ : *are you so sure ? Don't think so; can you please elaborate?*
when J.B. Peterson _"and that, that's a very deep idea, man"_ : *Crawl back into my chair for fear of falling into Nothingness if he starts to elaborate*
Damn that's so accurate
Nothingness? To me it's the greatest creature comfort I have ever experienced in my life. Just to know that a mind so in tune with existence from just analyzing the data can exist gives validation to the path I have chosen. Which is that of anti-organized religion, pro mythology based spirituality(that is to say I do not worship but have reserved the highest postion in the hierarchy for something transcendent)ruling a blue collar lifestyle with commitment to endure all with an undying pride in the truth. It's true that this path leads to a loss of the romantized reality but the ecstasy found in a love born from the will to overcome adversary I have found to be unequaled in the mortal coil. That concept strikes hot at the core of what doctor Peterson is trying to teach us, honesty with yourself and reality results in the most meaningful existence. Individualism is the savior of our souls and that is why the distillation of 200k years of human knowledge = Jesus Christ, the avatar of individualism. OR if you need a secular scientific version of that look no further than Dr. Jordan B Peterson. THE Einstein of MY generation.
😇 thanks so much mate the standing up for the truth we had a long drop
Story time with Dr. Peterson.
Whats the name of the book?
Every era since the dawn of time has had its positives & negatives.
I think there is a good argument that even though life was more difficult in the past, it had more meaning. Survival is the ultimate purpose.
what book was Peterson reading from?
If given the choice of having my current life and being a king in the 18th century, I'd choose the current life everytime. Arguably, I have better living conditions now than it was possible in that time. I'm a very big fan of not dying in my youth.
the past has myths which precede strange virtues which we are so perplexed with right now...
Does anyone know the name of the book Peterson is quoting from?
link to full video not working. says private.
Well I miss the 90s n it did have virtue
Jordan, have you read The Republic from Platon???
You look noticeably better, sir. Is this the result of Wim Hof's breathing exercises?
Does anyone know which book Peterson is reading from? I haven't watched the full podcast yet.
trump is a humanitarian who has promoted human rights in china who caused 2nd modern holocaust in history ---while "democrats" want to "help" china or tell us how china is americas "friend" --- dont ever let the propoganda or any government aspect of "establishment" MAKE A FOOL OUT OF YOU --- vote corrupt chinese backed politicians out of your country !!!!!
The Rational Optimist by Matt Ridley ;)
3:51 that scared me loll
Jordan what's up with the online university I'm hungry I'm trying to get associated fundementally with the best of the world I don't need but guess I want some heavy teachers
First!
What book is he reading?
"The Rational Optimist" by Matt Ridley
Hello, english isn't my first language so I wanted to know what russoian means. I looked it up on google, but it changed the word for "russian"
Roussea-ian may have been intended there
@@stevencruise5516 ohh ok, thank you
I hope you're feeling better Jay don't give out medication these days it's used to just 3 hours sleep post-traumatic stress that bad the home invasion 5l bashed and other things I voice text shaky so that's no full stops you've been an inspiration to me I might be dead without people like you suffer from some personal things also yes yes know white privilege I've been on the public housing list for over 15 years and I'm not even on cattery one
To be fair, despite all of our progress and prosperity ( and because of it ) humanity is now dealing with a series of dilemmas including exponential population growth, unprecedented pandemics, raging inflation, historical weather events, food shortages and insecurities and curiously biased and non impartial scientific conclusions conspicuously reflecting governments stance. Scientists and science will become obsolete and God I'd rumoured to be dead.
I enjoy your discussions 👍
People has forgotten how lífe was even 50 years ago
I got it from your book lmaoooo
I’d much rather use an outhouse, heat my home and water with a wood boiler, build my house out of mud and stones and have dirt floors than shell out all the money to inspectors and industrialized materials and utility companies. The standard of living is so high in North America that it’s financially crushing us
When people say things were good....I think they are talking about the 1990’s, not the 1890’s
seriously ... just two wars in the first 4 decades. reasonable
Then whey are people are dressing up as 1890's bartenders? Nah but seriously, "distant past" probably means more than 30 years.
hm...but were on to holocaust # 2....wait somethings not clicking*
Today's poverty is that of information hierarchies.
When you think of the good old days, think one word: dentistry.”
PJ O’Rourke
Slowly looking less like shit mate. keep chugging, love ya lots
The pandemic lockdowns have shown us that the United States is not really a "wealthy" country. Most American families had practically no savings and plenty of debt before the lockdowns, and now they are even worse off than before. It's interesting to me that the median Australian's net worth is about three times the figure for the median American's net worth. Australians are objectively just stronger financially on average than Americans.
Human beings prefer simplicity.
If you want to turn people into Marxists and socialists, and for them to hate you, convince them of the complexities and actual, real, unnoticed sufferings of the human condition that's always been bubbling under the surface of consciousness.
The human impulse to simplify the world through action can drive them mad.
Complexity of our environment drives men mad.
Don't forget, we are a species that nearly drove the grey wolf extinct at one point in history for very similar reasons.
In the thumbnail this guy looks like the doctor that green goblin threw across the room in Spider-Man when he was gettin roided up
Non-duality.
One day, we may be allowed to dance again...
Nooooo! Don't crush my longing for 50's America. : (
Everything is so good! Really?. 2021...there is no life.. There is no vivacity, it has been destroyed.
hahahah 6: 40
this world truly is a kind of hell. I would almost say that the nature of evil is from the corruptible nature which bites and devours. would I even have sin if I was not a corruptible human being? would I have sin if I can simply will myself to not have the evil compulsions that makes me sad and if I could easily obtain all that I wish? this world exposes a kind of fault in Immortal beings, supposedly. as a demigod I could simply do away with boredom by willing it to not be a concept. though I cannot see it clearly I understand that the world does have enough usefulness to justify it. but now most people are lost in a dream. I hear that atheism is just a continuation of the fad of being blinded by this reality. I understand the true nature of some of these atheist, that they are angels from above. they seek to do good even when they believe that they are nothing and that God, the ultimate goodness and truth, is not. for me, I exceeded in not believing this reality is the ultimate.
you have to keep sending angels to the world if you want demons to be tempted into a kind of possible human reformation.
I'd rather be poor with enforced monogamy than an incel with a high standard of living.
Do I have to spell it out?
C-h-e-e-s-e-a-n-d-o-n-i-o-n-s, oh no.
Oh, wait. He said, "beef and onions."
Never mind.
RIP to one of the great songwriters. This is one of my favorite tunes to cover on the piano.
Mine too!
Ah yes. Love when very woke people say “Id love to live in the past. My spirit belongs there” hippie bullshit. Like really? Not now?
& a collapse in the Demographics of developed populations.
Bye bye majority European societies.
I grew up poor on a farm in America. But my husband grew up poor on a farm in Mexico! There’s no comparison. It’s like growing up in different time periods except we didn’t. My family always had food, heat, running water, cars. My husband is an incredibly hard worker because of this and reminds me what a wonderful country we live in and to always be grateful. He’s more patriotic to the United States than most native born Americans. We often joke he’ll have the best when I was your age stories for our grandchildren.
But now they want to depopulate the earth.
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Jordan P slingin white pills like a doctor
i still cant believe he out of all ppl had a britney spears moment
Dr. Peterson just says common sense and you act like he knows any secret knowledge. You must educate yourself to see beyond the surface.
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