BILLIONAIRE SPACE RACE - Bezos v Musk (Part 3)

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  • Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
  • The third instalment in this series breaks down the differences between SpaceX and Blue Origin and the billionaires behind them.
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  • @rvdxpress
    @rvdxpress 8 місяців тому +108

    The difference between Bezos and Musk is the difference between an actor and a celebrity. Samuel L. Jackson is my favorite actor, I think he does a fantastic job in everything he does, and plays a wide range of characters. But I don’t know a single detail about his life other than he’s been married to his wife for a long time. I never see him in the press, or the news, and occasionally promoting Capital One. On the other hand, everything I know about Kim Kardashian and her life, I’ve learned against my will.
    Brilliant video, as always. I hope whatever problem there was with UA-cam has been sorted.

    • @obtuseangler768
      @obtuseangler768 8 місяців тому +5

      She certainly has forced herself on a few of us🤒

    • @cherubin7th
      @cherubin7th 8 місяців тому

      ​@qweqwe9678True.

    • @rvdxpress
      @rvdxpress 8 місяців тому

      @qweqwe9678 …..right.

  • @EnglishAbundance
    @EnglishAbundance 8 місяців тому +180

    This is the high-quality journalism you rarely see in most media outlets. Keep up the good work, CSS.

    • @bipolarminddroppings
      @bipolarminddroppings 8 місяців тому +7

      CSS doesn't have to make money and doesn't have a billionaire owner to appease. That makes a huge difference. I know a couple of journalists who wish they were allowed to write stories even half as critical of public figures like Musk, but any time they try, the story doesn't get approved or is quietly put online and not promoted.
      The best journalism has always come from outlets that didn't have to make lots of money, in decades past, that was local newspapers and organisations like the Associated Press, BBC, NPR. Now it's channels like CSS.

    • @oktc68
      @oktc68 8 місяців тому +2

      Well said

  • @marusis4453
    @marusis4453 8 місяців тому +671

    Thunderfoot made me doubt Elon in highschool. This channel just made me feel stupid for ever believing anything he said. Thanks for all the commom sense.

    • @hugh_jasso
      @hugh_jasso 8 місяців тому +21

      Saaaaame!

    • @nogmeerjan
      @nogmeerjan 8 місяців тому +59

      Do not shame yourself. Just realize you have your limitations (like everybody else) and know you can bee fooled. Elon is a great con artist. Knowing that makes you an early bird (even today). Just some advice from an old men; you will be fooled again; so will everybody else.

    • @shaider1982
      @shaider1982 8 місяців тому +10

      Same here.

    • @rvdxpress
      @rvdxpress 8 місяців тому +31

      What sets you apart is the ability to take in new information and change your mind. That is saying A LOT. Not a common trait in people. Pat yourself on the back, you’re brilliant. Don’t feel stupid.

    • @bipolarminddroppings
      @bipolarminddroppings 8 місяців тому +16

      You're smart enough to see the light when the truth was presented to you, that's better than most people. We're glad to have you over here on the Dark Side, I hope you're enjoying the cookies!

  • @corporalpunishment1133
    @corporalpunishment1133 8 місяців тому +123

    Funny using Tesla team to design the interior of Starship all you get is a iPad glued to a desk.

    • @JohnBailey39
      @JohnBailey39 8 місяців тому +12

      Wait until you find out the flight controls are actually a Wiimote.

    • @sketchie2210
      @sketchie2210 8 місяців тому +7

      Now it's starting to sound like OceanGate. Probably with a similar outcome.

    • @fromgermany271
      @fromgermany271 8 місяців тому +3

      At least they only have to deal with a single bar pressure difference (for the ship).

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 8 місяців тому

      @@sketchie2210We can only hope…

    • @lovetheallbeautiful
      @lovetheallbeautiful 8 місяців тому +2

      At least there's a cup holder next to the iPad.

  • @ViaConDias
    @ViaConDias 8 місяців тому +40

    It must be eating away at Elmo seeing Bezos go to space while Elmo is stuck here with all the peasants, stabbing himself with Ozempic in a desperate attempt to able to fit through the door of a spaceship should SpaceX ever surprise and build one that can carry humans... I LOVE it

  • @tedmaul5842
    @tedmaul5842 8 місяців тому +40

    I have personally been trained in confined space rescue. Trying to carry a 80kg Dummy 500 m on a stretcher (4 persons) through a narrow, poorly lit tunnel in full breathing apparatus and then having to hand winch that dummy to the top of a 30 m shaft, is incredibly physically demanding and people often run out of oxygen due to the stress/exertion of the task. Imagine trying to deal with a broken down personnel hoist on the side of a rocket on the moon and yes I know the moon's gravity plays a significant factor as well but imagine the stress and physical exertion involved in that. Why take that chance.?
    Great video as always.

    • @ForeverNeverwhere1
      @ForeverNeverwhere1 8 місяців тому

      In fairness, on the moon you could probably lift a 200 lb man under each arm and still be able to jump 6 foot in the air. The gravity is low.
      Of course with the bulky space suits you would need 3 people to help you tying a shoelace

    • @Lambdarevolution86
      @Lambdarevolution86 8 місяців тому

      You are not seeing it from musks perspective. So what if a few people die? Theres 1000's upon 1000's of either plainly stupid or just depressed people that will sign up to anything including aiming straight for the sun. Theres a reason why all his fever dream missions have bunch of influencers as their crew instead of actual astronauts.

    • @lovetheallbeautiful
      @lovetheallbeautiful 8 місяців тому

      That dummy... wouldn't be Elon by any chance?

  • @ElTwOJaY
    @ElTwOJaY 8 місяців тому +134

    I feel confident that his fall from grace will be the largest in history and I think that will be quite profound.

    • @ct1762
      @ct1762 8 місяців тому

      its only a matter of time before the house of cards collapses. I bet it will begin with say a funding round suddenly going unanswered. Nobody willing to burn cash. then, within a matter of months its all over.

    • @mist3h
      @mist3h 8 місяців тому +15

      It’ll be thermonuclear 😅

    • @D64nz
      @D64nz 8 місяців тому +16

      He can join his contemporaries Trevor Milton, Elizabeth Holmes, and SBF.

    • @zagreus5773
      @zagreus5773 8 місяців тому +10

      @@D64nz Though the hype around Musk is in an entirely different league. And so is his wealth.

    • @RealButcher
      @RealButcher 8 місяців тому +2

      Sadly these types of people almost always get away with this. But hopefully jailed for something else. Like sexual harassments.

  • @RogerM88
    @RogerM88 8 місяців тому +116

    Imagine all the amazing robotic probe missions we could achieve with Artemis budget. The Luvoir Space telescope, a drone mission to Titan, a Radio telescope in the far side of the Moon, a landing probe to Europa Ganymedes or Callisto are some of the ideas.

    • @mrandersson2009
      @mrandersson2009 8 місяців тому +10

      And also the progress we could have made in autonomous robotics.

    • @LeonardTavast
      @LeonardTavast 8 місяців тому +7

      While I think Mars is a red herring I do love the idea of more Moon exploration. Wether it should be with robots or humans is an open question but I do think the idea of a permanent Moon base on the south pole is extremely cool even if it might be too expensive compared to the benefits it brings.

    • @portcybertryx222
      @portcybertryx222 8 місяців тому

      Thank Donald Trump for shifting NASAs priorities to the moon which was completely unnecessary. They were aiming for Mars and beyond. I dunno why NASA is always at the whim of the Congress whereas an agency like the f ing CIA answers to no one but the executive. NASA should have more autonomy and the capability. I’m still impressed with how much NASA gets done with what they have,

    • @portcybertryx222
      @portcybertryx222 8 місяців тому +6

      @@mrandersson2009we still are. JPL is hard at work and while tbh a lot of resources are already dedicated to that. Tbh a funding increase would’ve gone into other places like biotech, material science and actually building prototypes to test out things like NASAs new rotating detonating engine or some new X planes as those aerospace project proposals have been on the back burner due to funding cuts. But at the same time it would also mean NASA probably won’t be as open to the commercial space as it is now.

    • @Talpiot_Program
      @Talpiot_Program 8 місяців тому

      These people all slur their words. All on antidepressants, ketamine and micrdosibg LSD for depression? It's an elite freak show.

  • @verde5738
    @verde5738 8 місяців тому +14

    Easily one of your best episodes so far. The information was presented in a clear and direct manner and you did a great job highlighting just how wide the gap between SpaceX and Blue Origin truly is. Thank you for your continued dedication to exposing these hucksters!

    • @JeffreyRush-rs6zg
      @JeffreyRush-rs6zg 7 місяців тому

      What do you mean? Blue Origin has not reached orbit even once while SpaceX has launched falcon 9 over 300 times...
      And the design of both landers is pretty similar, both starship and the Blue Origin lander need refilling in orbit. Both are way bigger than the Apollo lander.
      The Blue Origin lander is still smaller than starship, but so is New Glenn. So they still need 10 flights to fuel it up.

  • @vladtherussian9594
    @vladtherussian9594 8 місяців тому +38

    Some people watch videos of acts of kindness to restore their faith in humanity... I watch Thunderf00t and Common Sense Skeptic to remind me that common sense, even if not so common anymore, it still exists

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 8 місяців тому +2

      Thunderfoot at this point is repeating himself, beating the dead horse and sometimes really has poor argumentation. For Similar style, but with MUCH more substance See Pressure Fed Austronaut.

    • @vladtherussian9594
      @vladtherussian9594 8 місяців тому

      @piotrd.4850 I'll check it out thanks. Poor arguments but valid nonetheless, and yeah, it's true that he's repeating the same ones often... Wonder if the next busted would be about something other than Elon Musk again...

  • @MrTewaka2
    @MrTewaka2 8 місяців тому +102

    If someone robs a bank? A cost to public would be less than $100,000. You go to jail for years. She cost the public 10,000,000 times as much and walks away scott free? Bizarre

    • @TheStarBlack
      @TheStarBlack 8 місяців тому

      Yeah you would think there would be some conflict of interest laws coming into play here. Just shows how Musk's ill gotten wealth gives him the power to silence even the US government.

    • @jamesclerkmaxwell8020
      @jamesclerkmaxwell8020 8 місяців тому +3

      this system is rotten to the core. Centralized power attracts the most corrupted human beings.

    • @Pushing_Pixels
      @Pushing_Pixels 8 місяців тому +7

      Blatant corruption. The contract should be voided, and SpaceX should be required to resubmit their bid and return the money until the new bid is either accepted or not. She belongs in prison.

    • @thorin1045
      @thorin1045 8 місяців тому

      the robber harms the bank, and that is not allowed, the obvious corruption harms the government, payed by the taxpayers, so who cares, not the government and those in the power, maybe you, the taxpayer.

  • @Hobohunter23
    @Hobohunter23 8 місяців тому +137

    Blue Origin are what are called "quiet professionals." No more needs to be said.

    • @tjroelsma
      @tjroelsma 8 місяців тому

      Whereas SpaceX and Musk are bragging snake oil salesmen: promising everything yet delivering close to nothing.

    • @SpaceAdvocate
      @SpaceAdvocate 8 місяців тому +2

      I would like to see them successfully getting to orbit before calling them professionals. They have yet to achieve what SpaceX achieved in 2008 with Falcon 1.
      Of course, they have achieved other things that SpaceX hadn't achieved at that point, like selling engines and doing suborbital hops with passengers. So, I'm not saying that Blue is actually 16 years behind SpaceX. But successfully reaching orbit for the first time is *the* milestone for a startup launch company. It has a unique set of challenges, and success is not guaranteed. Generally companies fail on their first attempt. If I give the first New Glenn launch a 50/50 chance of success, I'm being generous, given historical precendent.

    • @classydave75
      @classydave75 8 місяців тому

      @@SpaceAdvocate "But successfully reaching orbit for the first time is the milestone for a startup launch company"... If they reach orbit with something that big as New Glenn, while sending a probe toward Mars, and successfully develop their HLS architecture as well at the end of this decade (with the other big partners), it's going to be one of the biggest feat ever achieved by a "new comer" in the aerospace industry. They won't look any less better than SpaceX when they developed their Falcon / Dragon (albeit, with a stringent overlook and co-development with NASA). Let's be honest.
      "If I give the first New Glenn launch a 50/50 chance of success, I'm being generous, given historical precedent"... Well, the precedent is the very good and "prudent" track record of New Shepard. Not that bad isn't it? They obviously are professionals and work as such. So, I'm going to be optimistic and think they will succeed on the first attempt, just like ULA. If anything, I'm more skeptical about an August launch. More probably end of this year. Will see. I'm excited for it. I'm not anymore for what SpaceX is doing...

    • @DumbledoreMcCracken
      @DumbledoreMcCracken 8 місяців тому +1

      What is the point of any of it​@@SpaceAdvocate

    • @fromgermany271
      @fromgermany271 8 місяців тому +1

      @@SpaceAdvocate
      You get the difference between „in front“ and „already behind“ that first milestone?

  • @gup8175
    @gup8175 8 місяців тому +182

    I feel confident in saying starship hls will never carry a human.

    • @lostsauce0
      @lostsauce0 8 місяців тому

      And if it does, which idiot will volunteer to be the first to ride on Elon's rocket

    • @amphiumaiii7058
      @amphiumaiii7058 8 місяців тому +33

      If they do carry a human may they rest in peace.

    • @abdulhafizuddin95
      @abdulhafizuddin95 8 місяців тому +25

      should have add, "by next year" and keep saying it for 25 years

    • @doncarlin9081
      @doncarlin9081 8 місяців тому +7

      Never is a long time, but yeah 😂

    • @StefanReich
      @StefanReich 8 місяців тому +9

      Hey, at least they have completed FSD this time (Full Self Destruction)

  • @Overonator
    @Overonator 8 місяців тому +9

    Kathy Leuders is the perfect example of that kind of revolving door between regulators and the industry they regulate.

  • @ericcarabetta1161
    @ericcarabetta1161 8 місяців тому +34

    Blue Origin looks like a professionally run rocket company. SpaceX looks like if a frat boy were given a rocket company, and then ran it to satisfy his ego.

    • @JeffreyRush-rs6zg
      @JeffreyRush-rs6zg 7 місяців тому

      Call me back when those proffessionals have reached orbit even once LMAO.
      Besides, their lander design isn't even better than starship in any way, they also needs to fly New Glenn 10 times to fuel it.

  • @bald_engineer
    @bald_engineer 8 місяців тому +41

    I never thought I'd see something that made me say: "Bezos isn't the bad guy [in this comparison]." But, here we are.

    • @gauloiseguy
      @gauloiseguy 5 місяців тому

      Being the lesser of evils doesn't make you the good guy.
      Edit: let me nuance this a bit after rewatching: I think Bezos could treat and pay his workers better at Amazon. If he even still has a say in that.
      Considering the development of his space flight company he just earned my respect. It's mostly his own money on the line. He even flew his own spacecraft.
      His methodic approach shows he is willing and capable to listen to his engineering staff and doesn't let his ego get in the way of developing their dream. So it seems anyway.
      We'll see. I never bought into starship for flights to Mars, especially given the timeframe Musk threw around. I had some hope he would accomplish the basics though.

    • @bald_engineer
      @bald_engineer 5 місяців тому +1

      @@gauloiseguy To be clear, that was the sentiment I meant to express.

    • @gauloiseguy
      @gauloiseguy 5 місяців тому

      @@bald_engineer
      Ah, and there I was, thinking I had an original thought 🙈

  • @testboga5991
    @testboga5991 8 місяців тому +361

    We live in a world, where people like Bezos are the "good" guys 😢

    • @portcybertryx222
      @portcybertryx222 8 місяців тому +73

      It’s strange how Elon was thought of as the improved next gen of entrepreneur who would disrupt the game after zuck and Bezos but somehow now he has managed to become a worse version of them while the other two are happy to not be in the limelight anymore 😅. You notice how people stopped caring about Facebook data breaches and Amazons employee treatments when Elon hogs up all the news about his Twitter disaster and controversial statement almost every other day.

    • @edwardmoes1617
      @edwardmoes1617 8 місяців тому

      I guess… if you accept the premise that multimillionaires are by definition sociopathic douchebags… hmm, who come to mind?…. Bezos is a sociopathic douchebag with some integrity and a conscience… I’m getting a headache.

    • @dmk_games
      @dmk_games 8 місяців тому +18

      Compliant with more rules and being more careful with money doesn't make someone a "good guy". It might mean that in this aspect of their life they are less destructive than the definitely not receding hare.

    • @jason8ification
      @jason8ification 8 місяців тому +16

      Good, that questionable. Competent business man, compared to musk definitely.

    • @ddwkc
      @ddwkc 8 місяців тому +31

      I hate the guy, but I have some respect for him be onboard on his test flight.

  • @Ob1sdarkside
    @Ob1sdarkside 8 місяців тому +15

    I'm glad a sceptic and cynic. Channels like yours and thunderfoot have given me the facts. Legends

  • @jshowao
    @jshowao 8 місяців тому +38

    Tom Mueller is probably one of the greatest men ever to grace private space flight. He is also, like most fantastic individuals that push boundaries, not fantastically rich and not well known.
    I suggest anyone look up interviews he's done. He is an amazing person.

    • @commonsenseskeptic
      @commonsenseskeptic  8 місяців тому +19

      Did you know that he started up his own space company after "retiring" from SpaceX?

    • @jshowao
      @jshowao 8 місяців тому +11

      @@commonsenseskeptic No I didnt, because everytime I look up his name, he is buried in the miasma of search results. Ill have to look again.

    • @commonsenseskeptic
      @commonsenseskeptic  8 місяців тому +18

      www.impulsespace.com/company @@jshowao

    • @classydave75
      @classydave75 8 місяців тому +2

      @@commonsenseskeptic Yes Impulse Space... Just for that, I wish for SpaceX to put as much as Starlink trash out there because it may become a big source of work and profits for Mueller's space tug startup... He looks like a good man indeed, a bit like Tory Bruno, whom I was positively surprised by when I saw his interview with SmarterEveryDay...

  • @MARK-gp9hb
    @MARK-gp9hb 8 місяців тому +8

    This is exactly the video I needed! Thank you

  • @trucksanddirt1506
    @trucksanddirt1506 8 місяців тому +141

    Thank you for another great episodes. Somehow SpaceX keeps loosing money but the valuation on paper continues to grow. Fundraising on vapor.

    • @jason8ification
      @jason8ification 8 місяців тому +12

      Seems to suggest that investors don't do their do diligence when it comes to funding companies.

    • @trucksanddirt1506
      @trucksanddirt1506 8 місяців тому +9

      @@jason8ification When it comes to Muskconomy. See his other companies, Tesla, Boring Company and Neuralink. A car company worth a trillion, and worthless companies worth billions.

    • @plainText384
      @plainText384 8 місяців тому +4

      SpaceX accounted for 90% of US launches.
      Starship may still be in development, but Falcon 9 is incredibly successful, and even Falcon heavy is flying somewhat regularly now.
      SpaceX launched 80% of the total global mass to orbit in 2023.
      Now, about 2/3 of all SpaceX launches are for their own Starlink satellites, not paying customers, but they are still incredibly dominant at the moment.

    • @trucksanddirt1506
      @trucksanddirt1506 8 місяців тому +9

      @@plainText384 90% of which was Starlink, which in turn is not making any money. Your point?
      Starship will add to the lunch capabilities for Starlink and nothing more.

    • @plainText384
      @plainText384 8 місяців тому +2

      @trucksanddirt1506 No, 90% is incorrect.
      As I said, about 2/3 of the launches in 2023 were for Starlink (62 dedicated Starlink launches and 1 rideshare mission). If you want to be precise, that's 65.625% of all 96 successful orbital launches (excluding the 2 failed Starship launches).
      For reference, ULA had 3 orbital launches in 2023.
      Starlink is making money, about 222 million dollars in 2021, 1.4 billion dollars in revenue in 2022, and probably even more in 2023 (no publicly available data as far as I can tell). Whether they are spending more than they are making and whether the investment will pay off, are separate questions, but at the very least, Amazon believes in the idea enough to spend in excess of 10 billion dollars just on the launch contracts for project kuiper (their version of starlink).

  • @phred196
    @phred196 8 місяців тому +20

    Dust on the moon is a massive issue. First of all it's not really dust. It's more like ground up bits of glass. Sharp very sharp. Secondly it clings to everything because of static. If you've ever rubbed a balloon on your head and then stuck it on the wall you'll notice that it attracts every bit of dust and debris. This happens on the moon. And the dust clings to everything.
    This natural sandpaper jammed up the seals on the space suits and generally trashed everything that it was exposed to.
    And it is the ideal thing for Wrecking any kind of pulley system that an elevator might have.
    It will coat the cable and the pulley and the track and the spool. Coating them all with a player of supercoarse abrasive.
    Other than the surface of the Sun I don't know a worse place to try to make an elevator than the lunar surface.

    • @classydave75
      @classydave75 8 місяців тому +3

      100%...That's why it takes so much time to develop there new suits. I think they are supposed to be able to generate an electrostatic field through its fabric and joints to effectively repel that super corrosive ultra fine regolith (if they want to operate on the surface during longer periods than Apollo, before their suits become damaged and un-serviceable)... Unless they will use something similar for the elevator, it will probably break pretty fast... But honestly, looking at them talking about that, they know how mindbogglingly bad the concept is and can't do anything about it, except trying to make it work... The whole situation looks really bad.

  • @abhilashyadav2274
    @abhilashyadav2274 8 місяців тому +14

    A clear cut scam is being palyed out but the common man has to face legal fury if they have 0.01 Dollars of undeclared income . This is gross injustice in our face .

  • @krozareq
    @krozareq 8 місяців тому +5

    Here's a comment for the algorithm! Underrated channel.

  • @russh6414
    @russh6414 8 місяців тому +9

    I love how you stitch together all the facts.

  • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
    @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 8 місяців тому +3

    I appreciate both the graphs CSS does & the "walking us thru the graphs" stuff CSS does for us.

  • @jessemaron1767
    @jessemaron1767 8 місяців тому +5

    Loved the Premier and chat. Thanks so much for answering my questions! Prob one of my fav channels on UA-cam along with thunderfoot and coffeezilla

  • @FroyourHistory
    @FroyourHistory 8 місяців тому +9

    I wasnt expecting to see heraldry in this video, but it was a bonus. A nice coat of arms for a company

  • @craneteam87
    @craneteam87 8 місяців тому +6

    im really glad this was able to get onto youtube. more eyes need to see this

  • @edwardmoes1617
    @edwardmoes1617 8 місяців тому +14

    This is a really well conceived analysis, researched based and grounded in sound logic. Well done Common Sense Skeptic. Keep it coming !

  • @vladimirdyuzhev
    @vladimirdyuzhev 8 місяців тому +35

    It makes sense now why Leuders, quite unusually IMHO, used personal "I" in the decision to award the contract to SpaceX.
    She had to show her briber, SpaceX, that it was in fact her and only her decision and it was her who should be rewarded for it!
    If it were a committee "we", the SpaceX may have backpedal on the deal saying "And what is your role in it, actually? Other people also thought ours is the best proposal!"

    • @dmrr7739
      @dmrr7739 8 місяців тому +6

      She sounded drunk in that Brownsville talk. Although, I have never heard her talk before- maybe that’s her normal speaking voice.

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 8 місяців тому

      At least we know who to put up against the wall first in the event of failure…

  • @stevenbaumann8692
    @stevenbaumann8692 8 місяців тому +7

    You know what gets me? Elon blows up $2 billion between 2 ships. And all the Stans are like YAY! If NASA did that, they would be screaming.

  • @Jin420
    @Jin420 8 місяців тому +10

    Alright! FINALLY! (Been dealing with my car..... blew out 2 tires thanks to these awful pot holes...)
    At least your videos can make me smile 😊❤️
    Thanks CSS ❤
    ❤ Hope everyone's weekend is going well ❤

  • @P0LARice
    @P0LARice 8 місяців тому +73

    It could benefit the entire world if Elon and his brother are on the first manned flight of Starship.

    • @lagonda77
      @lagonda77 8 місяців тому +7

      😂😂😂 No but seriously what you just wrote is baaaaad!🤪

    • @tede1838
      @tede1838 8 місяців тому +12

      @@lagonda77 nowhere near as bad as the damage done by Musk. the human race is genuinely better off without them, so there is nothing bad if they were removed from it.

    • @RealButcher
      @RealButcher 8 місяців тому +5

      "Flight" 😂

    • @TheStarBlack
      @TheStarBlack 8 місяців тому +4

      We should start a crowd funding campaign!

    • @briandbeaudin9166
      @briandbeaudin9166 8 місяців тому +7

      Actually, I wouldn't even care if they had to strap Elon to the outside of the capsule because there wasn't enough room in the crew module!

  • @FRANKMUSIKOFFICIAL
    @FRANKMUSIKOFFICIAL 8 місяців тому +11

    In this race it seems there are no real winners. Great work as always.

    • @russellharrell2747
      @russellharrell2747 8 місяців тому +2

      If either billionaire succeeds in their plans we lose. Becoming indentured servants offworld is not the future humanity deserves.

    • @FRANKMUSIKOFFICIAL
      @FRANKMUSIKOFFICIAL 8 місяців тому

      @@russellharrell2747 a grim potential for sure

  • @Adam-rz4wr
    @Adam-rz4wr 8 місяців тому +7

    Quite similar to office politics. Incompetent people are the ones who talk the loudest about their victories most of the time. Competent people let their work speak for itself as they slowly build their reputation.

  • @Fimbulvinter19
    @Fimbulvinter19 8 місяців тому +12

    Starship having an access hatch 30 meters up off the ground won't be a problem once the rocket falls over when those tiny landing struts can't get a stable purchase on the loose lunar or mars regolith. Then it will only be a couple of meters off the ground. Problem Solved... Right?

  • @will6246
    @will6246 8 місяців тому +14

    Pre-premier thumbnail appreciation post - Good work! 👍

  • @joecies
    @joecies 8 місяців тому +15

    The most egregious thing exposed here is the diversion of public funds to SpaceX by the horribly incompetant Kathy Lueders and her subsequent employment by them. Absolutely outrageous. CSS - another excellent production as always!

    • @classydave75
      @classydave75 8 місяців тому +2

      I mean, she's been competent in that regard... And got away with it... Best karma will be the probable, I would now say, failure of the whole SpaceX HLS boondoggle (to use the favorite word of SLS detractors).

    • @Pushing_Pixels
      @Pushing_Pixels 8 місяців тому +1

      A competent demonstration of corruption in action. She belongs in prison.

    • @alexgamble4718
      @alexgamble4718 8 місяців тому +1

      That was also the biggest shock to me. I cannot believe she would have the audacity to join SpaceX shortly after resigning from NASA and the controversy around her contract award. Sadly though, unless there is clear evidence she acted as an agent for SpaceX she is fine.
      How much do you think she is on at SpaceX? Maybe some Juicy share based compensation as well? I suspect is might be a multiple of $250k.

    • @classydave75
      @classydave75 8 місяців тому +2

      @@alexgamble4718 At least half a million for her, if not more. Plus a stock package probably... And a golden parachute in case everything goes to shit.
      The deal was probably just a discreet hand shake between the two of them, no records. So no evidence and they will basically get away with it...

    • @alexgamble4718
      @alexgamble4718 8 місяців тому

      @classydave75 yeh she definetly got a stock based package and a fat pay rise over the gov position. She obviously wants to be rich. I am sure her salary reflects the cash she steered to SpaceX.

  • @moodynoob
    @moodynoob 8 місяців тому +9

    LMAO I had a suspicion Kathy ended up at SpaceX and I found it hilarious that a former NASA employee finds rockets blowing up to be inspiring at SpaceX 😂

  • @harrynac6017
    @harrynac6017 8 місяців тому +4

    What a treat. I was half expecting not to see you back on UA-cam. And here you are: 3 videos in 1 weekend :)

  • @benaiah1960
    @benaiah1960 8 місяців тому +8

    Well done, CSS: along with a critical debunking of Space X/IHS, the stark portrayal of Kathy Lueders as a senile sycophant was spot-on; combine that with Blue Origin's measured approach - symbolized by Jeff Bezos' counter punching in the tortoise and hare analogy - shows how engineering will trump Caprice ... As an aside, when did Bezos' first begin negotiating with USSF? Soon after its formation? - and are there other projects with them in the pipeline?

    • @toomanyaccounts
      @toomanyaccounts 8 місяців тому +4

      Blue Origin has two reusable launch vehicles both human rated. it looks like they are cheaper than spacex when they get fully deployed

  • @jshowao
    @jshowao 8 місяців тому +20

    The great thing about the success of BE-4 is now, Blue Origin has established a market to sell rocket engines to other competitors.

    • @obtuseangler768
      @obtuseangler768 8 місяців тому +3

      Helps when you understand how to turn a profit in reality and do it year after year

    • @classydave75
      @classydave75 8 місяців тому +1

      Great move indeed...

    • @JeffreyRush-rs6zg
      @JeffreyRush-rs6zg 7 місяців тому

      BE-4 is $8M per engine, it's so expensive that ULA is working on SMART reuse for Vulcan to get their engine back. I don't see how that's a good thing.

    • @jshowao
      @jshowao 7 місяців тому

      @@JeffreyRush-rs6zg And Musk lies over and over. What's to say he isnt low balling his rockets to get even more money?
      Oh wait, SpaceX is private, so nobody will ever know. Same with BO.
      ULA will be bought by BO most likely so I dont see your point.
      You are the same person that believes that Starship will have a 100 ton effective payload, clearly you'll believe anything.

  • @mrN3w7
    @mrN3w7 8 місяців тому +17

    A race between two different kind of business people...
    One that success is based on luck and lies...
    And one that actually knows what he is doing... and succeeds.
    I dislike both for different reasons, but at least I can respect one of them for having his head on his shoulders and for actually delivering things and not be full of BS.

  • @StardustYT
    @StardustYT 8 місяців тому +4

    great work, can't wait for the last part. I have a question : In the US, can Kathy Lueders be sued for Conflict of interest or something like that ? Here in France we call it "Favoritism". If you give a public contract to a company and then go to work for that company you can be in trouble and the public contract can be terminated

  • @blakewisswell
    @blakewisswell 8 місяців тому +13

    Im so happy for the intro length. UA-cam fed me unskippable preroll

    • @dzhang4459
      @dzhang4459 8 місяців тому +1

      start ad blocking

    • @gagaxueguzheng
      @gagaxueguzheng 8 місяців тому +1

      Ad block on PC, alternative app on mobile. Better become a patreon to your most loved creators.

    • @blakewisswell
      @blakewisswell 8 місяців тому

      ​@@dzhang4459 preventing UA-cam from making money will not improve the UA-cam experience in the long run.

  • @Orion6479
    @Orion6479 8 місяців тому +5

    Hahahah part 3 is pure beast mode, I love it!

  • @jnb756
    @jnb756 8 місяців тому +7

    I so want one of those Nuke Mars T-shirts - when I need a good laugh I can put it on ironically

  • @davebland8489
    @davebland8489 8 місяців тому +7

    Damn, never thought I’d watch a video where Bezos is the good guy!

  • @justinfowler2857
    @justinfowler2857 8 місяців тому +7

    Loki: You might want a guide. I have experience.
    Thanos: If you consider failure experience...
    Musk: Hold my beer and Adderall.

    • @Pushing_Pixels
      @Pushing_Pixels 8 місяців тому

      ... and ketamine, and LSD, and weed...

  • @chrisose
    @chrisose 8 місяців тому +7

    Another great piece CSS. While I have never bought into Musk's BS, I am glad to see your confirmation of my skepticism as well as the power of your content to help shatter the Cult of Musk.

  • @stew_redman
    @stew_redman 8 місяців тому +14

    Media outlets were always happy to start stories with the line "The world's richest man/person, Elon Musk..." I do hope they now change that to "The world's second richest..." as I'm sure that will irritate his ego.

    • @RealButcher
      @RealButcher 8 місяців тому +1

      He is NOT rich... it's all borrowed money.
      He has to go to jail for his sexual harassments. Let's "Streisand" this.

  • @bipolarminddroppings
    @bipolarminddroppings 8 місяців тому +12

    20:00 that quote "Slow is smooth and smooth is fast" reminds of the best Michael Schumacher quote "To finish first, first you have to finish" which is a short way of saying "You can be the fastest on the track, but that doesn't matter if you crash the car"
    25:43 "Project Jarvis" I gotta wonder whether that's a little sly dig at Elon Musk aka Tony Stark, since Tony's AI assistant is called Jarvis.

    • @Case_
      @Case_ 8 місяців тому

      "Slow is smooth and smooth is fast" is frequently used in racing too when talking about your racing line and your approach to corners. (Also, just a note, that Michael Schumacher quote is not really from Schumacher. It's uncertain who said it first, but it absolutely predates him by decades and is quoted frequently in racing circles. The two most often suggested sources seem to be Stirling Moss and Juan Manuel Fangio, so drivers from the very first decade of the F1.)

    • @bipolarminddroppings
      @bipolarminddroppings 8 місяців тому

      @Case_ yeah, but we know Schumy actually said it. The rest of them can only claim to have said it before (which I'm sure they did, but its a famous thing Schumy said, so I credit him)
      Also, slow is smooth and smooth is fast, unless you are Max Verstappen, then you just throw the car around at will and make it go faster by sheer force of will. I genuinely think sometimes that Max's force of will pushes the go pedal a little further than is technically possible, haha.

    • @davidbrayshaw3529
      @davidbrayshaw3529 8 місяців тому

      @@Case_ I believe that a reporter once asked Fangio how he won so many races. Fangio's response was something like: "By driving as slowly as I possibly can".

  • @audiogarden21
    @audiogarden21 8 місяців тому +3

    14:57. I love that image. He's still the same malding geek he always was. What a goober.

  • @todhagan2966
    @todhagan2966 8 місяців тому +12

    Alternate title: *The Billionaire Space Race: Why Jeff Bezos is Winning and Why You Don't Know That*
    As expected, another excellent episode. Looking forward to part 4 tomorrow!

  • @lagonda77
    @lagonda77 8 місяців тому +37

    That Lueders story is just baffling. How is such a thing even allowed or legal? It stinks soooo much! Foul play seems so obvious...

    • @TheStarBlack
      @TheStarBlack 8 місяців тому +3

      That's the power of money. Seems NASA is scared of getting into a battle with Musk.

    • @classydave75
      @classydave75 8 місяців тому

      I suppose there is nothing illegal in having Musk promise her a good paying job at his company in exchange for (dubiously at best) awarding the Artemis 3 contract to SpaceX... They probably discreetly shook hands around a cup of coffee ; nothing signed, no telephone conversation... No traces.

    • @hanspecans
      @hanspecans 8 місяців тому

      It’s almost like the entire system is designed to be corrupt in order to benefit whoever the most corrupt people are.

  • @jamesevans8520
    @jamesevans8520 8 місяців тому +5

    Amazing video as always 🎉

  • @aquaticborealis4877
    @aquaticborealis4877 8 місяців тому +26

    Like him or not, Bezos took an online book seller, and built a company that now dwarfs everyone with online sales. Not only that, he built the largest cloud services company in the world. AWS is a technical marvel, and is absolutely enormous. 6 times larger than the next 12 competitors combined. I don’t agree with this kind of market domination, but there is no doubt that Bezos is exceptionally capable from a technical, and probably more important, process perspective. Its processes and frameworks that lead to long term results.

    • @madensmith7014
      @madensmith7014 8 місяців тому +10

      One thing about Bezos is that he doesn't really claim to be the "genius" behind all of it. He's the CEO, he just determines what direction his companies go.
      Honestly, I think many people trusted Musk back then because many of the richest CEOs are like him and Jobs, they tend to not blatantly lie about their promises and actually deliver something that works (not necessarily gonna stick, but works). Musk was lucky to own Tesla to have that facade as if he's one of those people.

    • @kangaroomax8198
      @kangaroomax8198 8 місяців тому +2

      Why don't you agree with the market domination? AWS and Amazon simply built the best service that people love the most and are willing to pay for more than their competitors. The entire point of monopoly laws was to prevent single ownership of material goods like oil. There is no barrier to entry on creating an internet-based marketplace, or even on renting out servers. I've always found this criticism completely insane.

    • @aquaticborealis4877
      @aquaticborealis4877 8 місяців тому

      @@kangaroomax8198 Amazon has been known to use its power in a predatory way, as do many companies that lack good competition. Against competitors, against sellers on their platform, and against employees. They have also been known to seek excessive tax exemptions in return for setting up in certain states. Not toxic like Tesla, but also not exactly ideal either.

    • @toomanyaccounts
      @toomanyaccounts 8 місяців тому

      Steve Jobs was marketing without the Woz being the tech Wizard the company would have not produced anything @@madensmith7014

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 8 місяців тому

      @@kangaroomax8198 Because in long term, it is ALWAYS harmful.

  • @jirom71
    @jirom71 8 місяців тому +7

    The only way the “Everyday Astronaut” gets launched into space is if he hitches a ride with a Blue Origin rocket but I’m sure they have a zero clown policy.

  • @marinoceccotti9155
    @marinoceccotti9155 8 місяців тому +4

    Lueders... I love seeing people with absolutely not a shade of shame entering the slow but certain path to their own drowning. From the very first time I saw the CGI of the "Lunar Starship", I wondered "What if it capsized due to the lunar surface being irregular or uncertain under the dust?" There would be no way to save the crew. And this elevator... That's hyperlopp-level. Even Jules Vernes would have designed something better.

  • @moresugartradercc2744
    @moresugartradercc2744 8 місяців тому +4

    can't wait until the next one comes out for this

  • @TheBonsaiZone
    @TheBonsaiZone 8 місяців тому +4

    What a brilliant video!!!!

  • @bipolarminddroppings
    @bipolarminddroppings 8 місяців тому +15

    11:00 I dont like Bezos much, but damn do I respect him. That man was so sure of the engineers he employed that he was the FIRST person to go up in his rocket, that tells you he has the most important skill a business manager needs, the skill of picking the right people for the job. Ain't no way Musk would do that shit, I bet he barely even knows the names of the SpaceX engineers who make all his fantasies happen.

  • @QuestionEverything-qp6kw
    @QuestionEverything-qp6kw 8 місяців тому +8

    Awesome! Whenever I hear something that Musky promises, I'm reminded of something my granny used to say, "a promise is a comfort to a fool". Muskrats, I meant, fanboys and gals, are they fools? 🙃🤔🤷

  • @khalimero99
    @khalimero99 8 місяців тому +6

    Sweet,Still time for making popcorn..😋

  • @DanniGeee
    @DanniGeee 8 місяців тому +9

    *Musk: Single-handedly, the most outstanding personification of ”MUve faSt and breaK things” in modern times.* His relentless dedication to continuously outdoing himself, across as many sectors of life imaginable, is truly unbelievable. And insanely depressing.

    • @gagaxueguzheng
      @gagaxueguzheng 8 місяців тому +2

      He made people believe "fail fast" from software development would apply to rocket engineering with this giving himself the chance to call any failure a success. It's really worked great so far. He blows up poorly engineered rockets and people cheer at him for being so bold and believe him that he gathered an awesome amount of data from it. I always don't know if I should find it amusing and jusy enjoy my popcorn and wait for the inevitable end or if I just jump around shouting at everyone how stupid this is.

  • @dmrr7739
    @dmrr7739 8 місяців тому +11

    SpaceX… “The Elevator People”

  • @Akash-uq8wg
    @Akash-uq8wg 8 місяців тому +18

    Why ist katy leuders charged for corruption?

    • @thorin1045
      @thorin1045 8 місяців тому +7

      at her level it is no longer called corruption, just perfectly legal lobbying. corruption happens between two poor person and it is a crime.

  • @johnsullivan4049
    @johnsullivan4049 8 місяців тому +3

    This is brilliant work. Brilliant Research.

  • @oktc68
    @oktc68 8 місяців тому +5

    Outstanding! The man and the man child. Actions speak louder... How do these people get away with it?

  • @artnull13
    @artnull13 8 місяців тому +7

    Tintin’s space rocket was better designed than SpaceX’s lunar lander 😂

  • @datman6266
    @datman6266 8 місяців тому +3

    Very well done update..

  • @fazergazer
    @fazergazer 8 місяців тому +3

    Knocked this one out of the park!❤🎉

  • @horizob
    @horizob 8 місяців тому +7

    This is the most blatant case of revolving door corruption I have ever heard of.
    How is this not under criminal investigation?
    Isn't there a minimum period before moving from govt to same sector industry?

  • @tip00former1
    @tip00former1 8 місяців тому +5

    CSS hit the 100K 🥂🍻

  • @VRctrl
    @VRctrl 8 місяців тому +8

    The elevator on the moon wont malfunction because it will never be there.

  • @dasgibmekker768
    @dasgibmekker768 8 місяців тому +24

    I'm really not into conspiracies... But this channel not having at least 500k followers sure feels like one...

    • @tj7870
      @tj7870 8 місяців тому

      you are full of BS!

    • @dasgibmekker768
      @dasgibmekker768 8 місяців тому

      @@tj7870 Elon? Is that you? 🤔

  • @ninefoldgoose429
    @ninefoldgoose429 8 місяців тому +3

    Great video! I have been waiting for a comparison like this for years. I think Bezos' approach is good but he needs to improve the marketing and communications department

  • @TheBagOfHolding
    @TheBagOfHolding 8 місяців тому +3

    Your videos are alway top notch.

  • @garyclarke2808
    @garyclarke2808 8 місяців тому +6

    If a had 1% of the money some of these investors put into SpaceX i would invest it in this channel .
    "All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing ! "
    CSS and guys like TF are the future of UNBIASED MEDIA for the new upcoming SPACE AGE ! ! ! .
    I have not watched a bad video between what these 2 guys put out and for that i am very very grateful indeed , and as for Latin for your coat of arms when you get round to it something like " QUALITY and TRUTH " but in Latin ! would be fitting place to start .

  • @Gruwg2024
    @Gruwg2024 8 місяців тому +3

    Great video as always!

  • @rhobot75
    @rhobot75 8 місяців тому +2

    Love the music you use bc it reminds me of Joe Frank, the radio monologuist. Particularly one of his absolute opus shows, Iceland. Parts 1, 2 and 3. Cheers!

  • @jawi499
    @jawi499 8 місяців тому +6

    Excellent. Thank you.

  • @palindromic7873
    @palindromic7873 8 місяців тому +30

    Q:What do you call someone who knows nothing about everything?
    A:Elon Musk.

    • @obtuseangler768
      @obtuseangler768 8 місяців тому +1

      Here I've been thinking he knew everything about nothing🙄

    • @howdj
      @howdj 8 місяців тому +1

      Why did Elon cross the road?
      To pay a stewardess he absolutely didn't sexually assault 250,000.

    • @StefanReich
      @StefanReich 8 місяців тому

      @@howdj You think she was somehow magically unable to say no?

    • @lovetheallbeautiful
      @lovetheallbeautiful 8 місяців тому

      ​@@StefanReich Can be hard to say no to someone who likes to claim "I'm the Alpha in this relationship". Especially if he can order that she lose her job.

  • @chrispitchforth621
    @chrispitchforth621 8 місяців тому +7

    The man who hates government handouts seems to keep getting government handouts.

    • @Pushing_Pixels
      @Pushing_Pixels 8 місяців тому +1

      He would be nowhere without them.

  • @walsterdoomit
    @walsterdoomit 8 місяців тому +4

    Fantastic work.

  • @angerissues69626
    @angerissues69626 8 місяців тому +7

    20 launches is crazy when they can't even manage 1 right now

    • @dmrr7739
      @dmrr7739 8 місяців тому +1

      I assume the 20 figure includes some spares/contingency rockets. But they should’ve been laughed out of the room even when they predicted eight launches per mission.

    • @JeffreyRush-rs6zg
      @JeffreyRush-rs6zg 7 місяців тому

      They did 96 launches just last year while Blue Origin has not even reached orbit yet.
      On top of that the Blue Origin lander will also need around 10 launches to land on the Moon. It's 6 times smaller than starship but New Glenn has 4 times less payload...

    • @JeffreyRush-rs6zg
      @JeffreyRush-rs6zg 7 місяців тому

      @@dmrr7739 Blue Origin are the ones who should be laughed out of the room, their lander needs almost as many refillings but on top of that they use hydrogen so boiloff will be way worse.

  • @staleofte3309
    @staleofte3309 8 місяців тому +2

    A multi purpose space vehicle seems like a bad idea. That elevator is a possible death trap.

  • @congeedaily
    @congeedaily 8 місяців тому +4

    Like commented and subscribed.

  • @s0uldr4ke
    @s0uldr4ke 8 місяців тому +2

    Honestly if I am an engineer and my boss, one of the richest people in the world, says I'll trust your work enough to bet my life on it, that would mean a lot to me! You got to hand it to Bezos, sure he has his dark sides too, nobody denies the bad things going on at amazon, but the man is a peak example for good leadership of an organisation.

  • @AniStormSonic
    @AniStormSonic 8 місяців тому +3

    Good series of videos, I really enjoyed them a lot. Though I'm one of those who tink this "modern era space race" will sooner or later be cut and won't get anywhere because eventually we will need to relocate earth's limited and decaying resources to actual vital and useful stuff, seeing Musk and his fanbase get the reality check is always a pleasure to see. At least Besos is doing it out of his own pocket without any "collateral damage" I guess (NASA grants are still taxpayers's money though).

  • @alexgamble4718
    @alexgamble4718 8 місяців тому +4

    The NASA employee which directed grants to SpaceX in dubious circumstances, only then to resign soon after and going to work for SpaceX herself looks dodgy as fuck.

  • @Ultramesh
    @Ultramesh 8 місяців тому +7

    I like to think that I've helped finance a tiny part of Blue Origin in some way, with all the money I've spent at Amazon over the past 25 years. Glad also that I've not given a dime and never will to anything related to Musk.

    • @aeugenegray
      @aeugenegray 8 місяців тому +1

      I'm gonna grab an EV after moving to Honolulu, it's not gonna be a Tesla. They're more ubiquitous than a Toyota Camry. Nothing says following the herd like a Tesla

  • @HerveMaas
    @HerveMaas 8 місяців тому +1

    One small bit of critique. It would be a good thing to link your sources in the description. Otherwise great job!

  • @johnbauby6612
    @johnbauby6612 8 місяців тому +7

    Well done. Thanks for your work. This vid was particularly fluid and entertaining. Very much looking forward to your continued coverage of the stuttering , lying conman and his eventual demise.

  • @pvelectronics4291
    @pvelectronics4291 8 місяців тому +1

    Please everyone share, like, subscribe and get the word out.... CSS are total legends, they should get to 1million + subs quickly and get the message out to the masses. THANKS CSS, for your amazing work.

  • @hblaub
    @hblaub 8 місяців тому +5

    Kathryn Lueders be like: I give Musk way too much money for basically nothing - and then he will hire me ; that's okay and not corruption in any sense

  • @StressMats
    @StressMats 8 місяців тому +1

    Watching this while holding almost everything I own in a short position against Tesla wondering whether or not to pull out

  • @conors4430
    @conors4430 8 місяців тому +5

    The leader is good, the leader is great, we give up our mind as of this date

  • @Colombiaguapo
    @Colombiaguapo 8 місяців тому +2

    It’s funny how whenever someone points out how unsuccessful starship is, the musketeers always say “but what about falcon 9?!”
    Our taxpayer dollars are paying for the starship, not falcon 9. We’re not going to the moon using falcon 9 rockets.