FGO’s Definition of "Animal" Is a Joke and I’m Here for It

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  • @constantdemonics
    @constantdemonics Місяць тому +27

    Barghest is 1. A member of the Fang Clan 2. A literal dog-girl.

  • @biggestboss
    @biggestboss Місяць тому +86

    Basically, the devs made it the fuck up

  • @trex1019
    @trex1019 Місяць тому +65

    Fun fact : the only servant that do anything with the animal trait is koyan dark and she's a fan of the playboy company
    Looking at how bunny girls are part of the category it's safe to say that Koyan made it the fuck up

  • @quackyducky9495
    @quackyducky9495 Місяць тому +29

    kiyohime actually a human before turned into half snake and half human in most japanese lore

  • @chrisdiokno5600
    @chrisdiokno5600 Місяць тому +14

    TBF to Barghest, she IS a black dog of the Fang Clan in humanoid form

    • @deathgod1142
      @deathgod1142 Місяць тому +1

      she got a human form when she was given the name tam lin Gawian

    • @chrisdiokno5600
      @chrisdiokno5600 Місяць тому

      @deathgod1142 Yup

    • @L16htW4rr10r
      @L16htW4rr10r 18 днів тому

      ​@@chrisdiokno5600I think the reason he complained was because some Servants were also like Barghest but didn't get animal traits

  • @gudakoalter
    @gudakoalter Місяць тому +22

    maybe they are animals in bed?

  • @snezhnayanpenguin4671
    @snezhnayanpenguin4671 Місяць тому +17

    Criteria for that category most likely evolved over time, as the devs fleshed out the concept. But as for a lore-friendly explanation… I really don’t know. But it is the same universe where Merlin gave a female Arthur a shlong for one night then got his load stolen by Morgan to make a female Mordred…

  • @NRawk
    @NRawk Місяць тому +4

    The clothing that Servants wear are generate from their Spirit Origins and are made of Spiritrons, generated from the Ether their bodies are made of. Servants can change their clothes with a thought, and expending a bit of mana to alter their forms. That's why they are called Spiritron Dresses.
    Also, Caenis calls out that her ears are horse ears either in her voice lines, or in an event
    Barghest was a demon dog that took the form of a human.
    Kyohime was a human who became a snake
    The Aztec gods in Fate are actually parasitic lifeforms that came from space. The Quetz we have in FGO is a human possessed by alien bacteria.
    Unlike her sisters, while Gorgon was born an Earth Goddess, she was not immortal. Plus her snake features come from Athena's curse.

  • @alexgarrett4673
    @alexgarrett4673 Місяць тому +3

    For Barghest vs Kiyohime, Barghest IS a dog that can transform into a humanoid form, whereas Kiyohime is a human who transformed into a snake/dragon. Similarly for Melusine, if you look at her proper human history origin rather than the losbelt version, she's half-woman-half-snake (though how relevant that is is debatable, since it's the lostbelt version we summon through her connection to Morgan)

  • @snoopdoge7269
    @snoopdoge7269 Місяць тому +10

    Shuten has divinity, dragoin traits, human traits, demonic traits, non- human traits, Demon Beast traits and Oni traits. The girl is the most compatible waifu at so many lvls.

  • @twelfthknight
    @twelfthknight Місяць тому +8

    Dragons aren't animals by Fate's reckoning, those with Draconic characteristics wouldn't apply. Melusine gets her beast characteristics by virtue of her name, Melusine is a fairy with snake-like features that transforms into a serpent. While she's not actually a/the Melusine, just bearing the name of something influences who and what you are among fairies - as shown with the Fairy Knights - so she gets serpentine qualities despite actually being (a fragment of) a dragon.

  • @jonathanwilkes300
    @jonathanwilkes300 Місяць тому +3

    for Melusine and Bargest could it be that when they transform they follow their animalistic instinct instead of rational thought. Where as Kiyohime's transformation is based off of her human obsession

  • @gudakoalter
    @gudakoalter Місяць тому +12

    I still need Mashu's dangerous beast costume.

  • @anivmoreno9612
    @anivmoreno9612 Місяць тому +5

    Actually, costumes are specifically mentioned to change a servants spirit origin all the way back on summer 1.

  • @vitgeburas.l4688
    @vitgeburas.l4688 Місяць тому +5

    Latoria summer have that trait too because that cathpalug story of her body been eating by the beast

  • @Solqueen86
    @Solqueen86 Місяць тому +4

    The day we get a Dragon God Servant that default having a dragon tail, scales on their body, claws, and horns but not in the animal trait but has a sticky note from Lasengle that they are but also not

    • @notforyou2893
      @notforyou2893 Місяць тому +3

      Vitra kind of fit all those caracteristics you stated tho !

  • @Rabidconscience
    @Rabidconscience Місяць тому +11

    7:50 my immediate thoughts were “because she got that dog in her”
    Also I think the reason kiyohime isn’t is because she turns into a dragon specifically, which I guess doesn’t count as an animal.
    Same for quetz
    At least that’s what I thought until melusine

  • @DHYohko
    @DHYohko Місяць тому +3

    Here are my dumb theories to this.
    Animal refers to "natural" creatures, born of the earth. We also have true/pure and false/lesser dragons, true dragons being of the earth and thus being "natural animals", while lesser are just big powerful lizards that inherited a tiny fraction of true dragon power.
    Barghest, the black dog, is sometimes associated with electrical storms which are natural "disasters" so the black dog being a natural animal can work.
    Melusine: Albion is the last true dragon (born of the earth) and as such is a "natural animal" unlike all other "lesser" dragons that came after (Artoria, Elizabeth, Siegfried, etc.)
    Suzuka, as you said, added the ears herself but didn't modify her spirit origin, they are just cosmetic, so they don't come with the animal trait.
    Artoira ruler: Her desire to incorporate the bunny aesthetic to her spirit origin in order to have a "proper" casino (as recommended by Gawain and Lancelot) led her to add proper bunny traits (SO 1 NP animation) instead of just bunny girl aesthetics. ( lancertoria takes everything very serious)

  • @jinrapper9556
    @jinrapper9556 Місяць тому +1

    The thing about barghest and melusine is that they are dog and dragon hand first then fairy.

  • @TheBlazefire21
    @TheBlazefire21 Місяць тому +1

    I saw Barghest in the thumbnail, so obviously its a like, and favorite from me. banger video

  • @EngreGerne
    @EngreGerne Місяць тому +1

    Is there a reason why Kyokutei Bakin doesn't have the "Animal Characteristics" trait, even though she have dog ears and tail and her whole character literally revolving around dogs?

  • @adamloga3788
    @adamloga3788 Місяць тому +2

    I personally believe that it's less an actual 'Animal-characteristic Trait,' and more of a 'Koyanskaya likes this Servant/thinks it's funny Trait.'

  • @anivmoreno9612
    @anivmoreno9612 Місяць тому +1

    Also Gorgon is in the category because remember that according to the legend, her hair are snakes. I do agree that Kiyohime should be included in the category

  • @cratzbroth1735
    @cratzbroth1735 Місяць тому

    what im seeing is the certain aspects of the animal they represent are affecting their overall state of being, ex: barhest on the best days full on golden retriever on the worst days " no davinci she is my dog ill do it". if the overall personality is not affected by the animalistic side then they dont receive it, while there are servants that are the exception of the norm aka the bunny girls, but in the end they start going pyon pyon at random moments, & and this works for somone like kiyohime a human that transformed into a dragon out of madness... a human madness, and Melusine dose have that draconic attitude that is described in fiction when a dragon is able to communicate
    all in all if the animal of origin is affecting the current self then they end up receiving the animal trait

  • @TheStuffEnjoyer
    @TheStuffEnjoyer Місяць тому +1

    Defender and Group Servant traits are still weird to me.

  • @theopeneyes
    @theopeneyes Місяць тому +1

    And then we have Edison with a literal lion head not having the trait. The devs are just straight up drunk with this trait or follow some unique logic that only makes sense to japanese culture.

  • @infinitykiyen6270
    @infinitykiyen6270 Місяць тому

    Kiyohime isn't a snake but rather a "yokai" monster.

  • @Rabidconscience
    @Rabidconscience Місяць тому +4

    5:15 wait. But don’t centaurs have human ears?

    • @ridhonasruloh_LeArmourer
      @ridhonasruloh_LeArmourer Місяць тому

      No , they have like elf ear ,

    • @mr.skeptic
      @mr.skeptic  Місяць тому +2

      Some legends depict them with human ears, while others describe them with horse-like ears

  • @yichlyichl4204
    @yichlyichl4204 Місяць тому

    Meanwhile Dobrynya only has the trait (and the physical ones) because of a pun.

  • @фанаткасаши-з7д
    @фанаткасаши-з7д Місяць тому

    As far as I understand Animal trait is for servants whose lore is associated with animal
    Then there's shiki who's a rabbit for no fucking reason but mikiya said that she's like a rabbit so I guess it works

  • @yoshi658
    @yoshi658 Місяць тому

    the origin seems to be what counts Beni_enma was sparrow before being an oni while kiyohime was regular girl before become half snake, same with bargest her original form is the huge dog, also it seems that dragons also count as an animals as long the servant isn't human the only exception would be Sieg which I guess is an oversight.
    the japanese term is kemonoka no sarvanto so the accurate translation would be beastlike servants that's why Oberon is out since he is insect like, kemono can refer to reptiles as well nonhuman mammals and birds, animal in japanese is doubutsu.
    I also guess Koyanskaya likes bunny ears and that overrides all the rules and she dictates whats kemonoka so its pretty much how much Koyanska likes you and she hates humans and likes playboy

  • @ahborn6961
    @ahborn6961 Місяць тому +1

    If you have to be bs about it. The animal characteristic traits came from koyanskaya of dark, and perhaps because of her being a beast tamer, any "animal" she deem tame-able as an animal will gain that trait. 😂

    • @ahborn6961
      @ahborn6961 Місяць тому

      You can said the same thing about other newly added traits such as: Child or Fairy Tale, Genji,...

  • @Itachi45481
    @Itachi45481 Місяць тому

    Gameplay is my assumption and when we got a costume it ps there for a benefit as for some who don’t have the trait and should half are probably due to not caring, didn’t think about it, or again gameplay to many animals might affect mechanics

  • @Zabasu
    @Zabasu Місяць тому +2

    well I think you should make a own video when talking about Dragon Trait, because just because someone like "Elizabeth" has a dragon as a family crest and thus gets "Dragon Trait" or Artoria Pen "Dragon" because of her name, it is still different than Melusin who is a real dragon. and my opinion on dragons if they existed in the world of Fate they would certainly count as an "animal"

    • @joshcooper467
      @joshcooper467 Місяць тому +2

      The Elizabeth one is for style and splendor. The Artoria one isn't for the dragon in the name, she was defined as the Welsh Dragon, if you're familiar with DXD, she's basically got Ddraig's draconic essence within her via a Servant core which also explains her ravenous appetite beyond Gawain's awful cooking and British cuisine being absolute pits. Mélusine is the arm of Albion, a dragon that lingered in the real world and whose corpse is what the Clock Tower is situated over.

    • @MokoES
      @MokoES Місяць тому +4

      nope both have actual dragon blood in them. CCC makes clear Elizabeth has actual true dragon blood mixed in her.
      Artoria has a literal dragon heart which is the reason she was chosen to be king. Uther was trying to have a child be born with a dragon heart and then become the ruler of Camelot and us their power to protect the kingdom however it turned out the only one to be born with one was a Girl and Merlin had to come up with a way to make a girl into the king.
      the dream sequence in Fate route(the CGI dragon) is actually very literal.

    • @DeadApostleAncestor10
      @DeadApostleAncestor10 Місяць тому

      Did this guy read the story?

  • @arimadecker7578
    @arimadecker7578 Місяць тому

    Next video idea: enuma elish nullfication traits servant

  • @Niccogamer01
    @Niccogamer01 Місяць тому +3

    I would love if you made a video of Hector and the why he makes no sense whatsoever with proof enough to show why and how he's one of the greatest servants possibles to summon and his deeds.
    I am a Hector fan, i admire the guy but i hate how disrespectful the devs are towards him and how forgotten he is; he's not only Troy greatest warrior but recognized as all Troy history strongest warrior with a Spear so unbreakable and powerful that Roland, the strongest of Charlemagne knight was not only able to cut an entire mountain in half with it but also was unable to break it when he tried to avoid the sword to end in enemy hands, he was so good at fighting that he was on par with Ajax who was barely weaker than Achilles and lost due to Ajax being too drunk.
    Achilles in Fate/Apocrypha (manga) admitted that the reality marble he used against Chiron was originally made for him to take down Hector on a 1v1 without divinity and admitted he barely won by sheer luck as their levels were as close as a sheet of paper. Remember Achilles is the same guy who defeated countless enemies and was fated to be born so powerful he will surpass even Zeus so the Olympian had to come to earth and ruin it's birth so that he wouldn't become so powerful and yet Hector. The simple, ordinary man was able to fight him. Then his name was renowed and known so much and so fsr that he was put in the mural of the 9 worthies also known as the 9 greatest chivalry knight ever alongside Arthur pendragon and Charlemagne, his descendants were also famous as 2 of Charlemagne knight also were descendants of Hector being Bradamante and Ruggerio.
    Wish they gave Hector some more popularity as the guy is simply. THE PEAK OF A HUMAN LIMITS

  • @Exelionmode
    @Exelionmode Місяць тому

    I think dev just forget to give it to some of this charterers because the amount of servant we have right now compare to at start. also back in the day trait system aren't give mich attention because game very basic back then. like Attributes only now start matter with newer servant anti eart/sky/star damage mod.

  • @Type_Blue
    @Type_Blue Місяць тому

    Seems like Atelante has ears, is considered animal characteristics. 3:00

  • @badgamemaster
    @badgamemaster Місяць тому

    Something is feels like the people making the game is just trolling with this like this.
    Also Kiyohime's snake form may be closer to a Oni/Yokai

  • @infinitykiyen6270
    @infinitykiyen6270 Місяць тому

    Also Gorgon isn't a snake too.

    • @mr.skeptic
      @mr.skeptic  Місяць тому

      So... why does she have that trait, then? 😅

  • @D3_Special_Extra
    @D3_Special_Extra Місяць тому

    not a "trait", but a "tag"

  • @umath6392
    @umath6392 Місяць тому

    อืม... ตามที่ผมเข้าใจ "บีส"ที่เป็นคลาส จะเป็นศัตรูของมนุษย์ชาติ ผู้ทำลายมนุษย์ชาติ สัตว์ร้ายทั้ง666ตนหรือตัวตนของบาปและความชั่วร้ายทั้ง7ของแทบทุกศาสนาที่ใกล้เคียงหรือเหมือนกัน สำหรับเฟทจีโอแล้ว ก็จะถือว่าเป็น"บอสใหญ่ตามเนื้อเรื่อง"แค่เดิมล่ะนะ พอช่วงหลังที่มีการเพิ่มเติมและขยายเนื้อเรื่องรวมถึงระบบของเกม ก็เลยออกอวกาศน่ะ(ออกทะเลคงแคบไปมังนะ) ก็เลยต้องเอา สเกลระดับอวกาศมาถ่วงสมดุลของเนื้อเรื่องกับการเดินเรื่องน่ะนะ คลาส"บีส"ก็เลยถูกเพิ่มเข้ามาน่ะ(จริงๆก็คงกะจะแค่ขายของผ่านกาชาล่ะนะ จังหวะมีโอกาศเหมาะ ก็ต้องตักตวงน่ะล่ะ) , ส่วน "สัตว์"(สัตว์ป่า , เดรัจฉาน)ที่เป็นไทร์น น่าจะเป็นองค์ประกอบหนึ่งของการระบุตัวตนมังนะ เลยเหมือนการสับสนกันระหว่างการจำแนก "คำศัพท์" "ความหมาย" "การระบุ" "การกำหนด" อะไรประมาณนั้นมังนะ เพราะเหมือนเป็นเอเลเม้นหรือสมดุลที่มีผลกระทบกับระบบเกมด้วยน่ะ ก็เลยเป็นอะไรที่ค่อนข้างซับซ้อนอยู่เหมือนกันล่ะนะ ส่วน"บันนี่สูท"นี่ก็จะเป็นอีกหมวดนึงของไทร์นไปเลยล่ะนะ อย่างชุดว่ายน้ำน่ะนะ(แล้วด้วยความที่เป็นเอเลเม้น"จุดที่เป็นเอกลักษณ์ของสัตว์(หู หาง ปีก ขน เคโมะ)"ที่มีต้นกำเนิดมาจากอารยะธรรมโอตาคุก็เลยจะมีความเป็นไปได้ของการที่จะมีเอเลเม้น"คอสเพล" "เมกาเน่" "โชวะเมก้า"อะไรพวกนี้เพิ่มขึ้นมาด้วยล่ะนะ ส่วนหมวดอื่นอย่าง เมด มิโกะ โกททิก ควีนเรส เลโอสตาต์ท เนิส กี่เผ้า กราวเชิท บิสเนสสูท ทีเชิท เวทเทรลส์ มิลิทารี่ บิกินี่อาร์มเมอร์ หรือชุดอื่นนี่ก็คงยังมีจำนวนไม่มากพอที่จะใช้สร้างตะกอนพลังงานหรือโมเลกุลพลังงานโอตาคูเวี่ยมหรือโมเอเซี่ยมแบบอัลเทอเรี่ยมล่ะนะ) , ส่วนถ้าจะให้บรรยายตามที่ผมเข้าใจล่ะก็ อัลเทอเรีย(มหาลัยฯ)บันนี่เป็นเจ้าของคาสิโนรีสอทน่ะเลยเหมือนเป็นกระต่ายป่าที่เป็นเจ้าของอาณาจักรล่ะนะ(ถึงแม้มุซาชิจะเป็นคนทำให้เกิดจุดพลิกผันขึ้นมาก็เถอะ ส่วนอันเทอเรีย(ม.ต้น)แคสชุดว่ายน้ำเบอร์เซอเกอร์ก็จะเป็นคอสเพลน่ะ) ส่วนสคาทาชน่าจะเป็นกระต่ายขี้เหงาล่ะนะ ส่วนเคย์นิสนี่น่าจะไปทางวาลคีย์รี่ย์มากกว่าน่ะ ส่วนนิโตรคริสนี่เป็นฟาโรสมมุติเทพล่ะมังนะ(โอซิมันเดี๊ยสจะเป็นฟาโรเทพจุติในแบบความเชื่อน่ะก็เลยมีความเชื่อแบบ"ฟารีนเนอร์"ตามยุคสมัยร่วมสมัยด้วยล่ะมังนะ) ส่วนราชินีชีบ้านี่น่าจะไปทางรสนิยมคนวาดภาพประกอบกับคนอิมเมจตัวละครมากกว่าน่ะประมาณว่าถ้าเกี่ยวกับโซโลมอนก็จะเกี่ยวกับเวทย์อัญเชิญน่ะก็เลยจะไปทางเรียกมนต์อสูรอัญเชิญมาใช้น่ะ เลยคงออกแบบให้เข้ากับคาบังเคิลที่เป็นเอ็นพีล่ะนะ ส่วนเบนิเอ็นมะเป็นยมทูตล่ะนะเลยคงไม่ได้นับอดีตที่เป็นนกน่ะ ส่วนซึซึกะโกะเซนจะเป็นความเชื่อพื้นบ้านล่ะมังนะ ประมาณเจ้าที่หรือเทพสถิตย์น่ะ ส่วนร่างจิ้งจอกกับสาวม.ปลายแกลชุดมิโกะ น่าจะเป็นองค์ประกอบตามสภาพแวดล้อมที่ใช้ประกอบการระบุตัวตนน่ะ(ถ้ามีการกำหนดเอเลเม้นใหม่เพิ่มขึ้นมาเรื่อยๆก็คงถูกจับไปจัดหมวดหมู่เองมังนะ) ส่วนบาเกสท์นี่ถือว่าเป็นภูติมังนะเลยแยกการระบุจากชื่อสายพันธุ์สุนัขน่ะ ส่วนคิโยฮิเมะนี่ผมไม่มั่นใจว่าจะเป็นโยไคตามความเชื่อพื้นบ้านหรือเรื่องแต่งในละครคาบูกิล่ะนะ เลยคิดว่าคงเป็นองค์ประกอบแบบร่วมสมัยน่ะ ส่วนเควสซาท์โคต์เหมือนไปทางชาร์แมนมากกว่าล่ะนะ(ถ้าโอเวอร์โซลได้ก็คงเป็นชาแมนล่ะ)การเอามาลงในเฟทจีโอเลยคงต้องปรับให้เป็นแบบร่วมสมัยน่ะ ส่วนเมลิซีนนี่น่าจะเพราะเป็น"อัลวิอ้อน"ล่ะนะ ประมาณว่าเป็นสิ่งที่ถือกำเนิดมาตามความเป็นไปทางธรรมชาติและสภาพแวดล้อมที่ไม่ใช่ถิ่นที่อยู่อาศัยของเขตเมืองมังนะ(ก็เลยไม่แน่ว่าอาจจะเป็นสักคลาสที่เป็นดันคูก้าก็ได้มังนะ ถ้าดูตามโทนสีแล้ว อาจจะเป็นชุดเมดหรือโกททิกก็ได้น่ะ แต่ชุดชิโนบิหรือนินจาแบบโทบิคาเงะก็ไม่เลวล่ะนะ) ส่วนกอร์กอนนี่เป็น"มอนสเตอร์(บาเกะโมโน)"อยู่แล้วน่ะ ก็เลยไม่ได้ถือว่าเป็นสัตว์ล่ะนะ ส่วนอย่างอื่นก็เป็นจุดขายกับของขายน่ะแหละตามแบบร่วมสมัยน่ะ , แต่ผมก็ยังระบุอะไรให้ชัดเจนไม่ได้ล่ะนะ เพราะขึ้นอยู่กับพวกคนทำงานคนทำเกมเขาน่ะ .

  • @evilmgo2
    @evilmgo2 Місяць тому

    Uuugh Barghest IS the black dog, not "transforms into one". While Kiyo is just a girl that actualy transformed later in life as far as i know. Nitocris straight up admits at some point that those are not real ears. As for Gorgon her snake like form is not something she was born with, in fgo she transformed to the snake-like for later in life. You can compare her stats to regular Medusa. It seems that snake features are some form of mutation. As for Mel, well google what melusine look like in folklore, yeah name magic.

    • @mr.skeptic
      @mr.skeptic  Місяць тому

      So… wait, wait, this is kinda funny. You mentioned that Kiyo isn’t included because she was transformed into one, right? Then you brought up Gorgon, who we all know started as a beauty and then transformed into a snake-like monster. But… Gorgon is included in the animal traits. Lol.
      For Mel, yeah, her story somewhat makes sense if you’re looking at it from that point of view. still kinda weird because even that melusine is also not an animal. But this is an entirely different Melusine-we’re talking about her being part of a freaking dragon’s left hand
      As for Barghest… okay, I mean, seeing her with all that curse energy and those fangs really does remind me of her legend as a giant black dog, so that’s fine.
      Don’t take this the wrong way, please-I just found it super entertaining

  • @MariaCampbell-w5w
    @MariaCampbell-w5w Місяць тому

    Thanks for the forecast! Could you help me with something unrelated: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?

  • @keiken96
    @keiken96 Місяць тому

    Because they all are animal in bed.

  • @Mangoscats
    @Mangoscats Місяць тому +1

    Why does the voice sound ai generated? Is that just me?

    • @mr.skeptic
      @mr.skeptic  Місяць тому +3

      Cause it is, lmao. Dont worry, its still me. I just use the voice so you guys don't have to suffer because of my asian accent

    • @Mangoscats
      @Mangoscats Місяць тому +3

      I respect that over lying.

  • @sayrux8897
    @sayrux8897 Місяць тому

    S.Kiara mermaid count as animal
    does mermaid count as animal?

  • @Solqueen86
    @Solqueen86 Місяць тому

    Never forget the CU werewolf counts

  • @Yurie13
    @Yurie13 Місяць тому

    basically just dev just making shits up and fucking up
    just like what they did with Zenobia buff, bruh

  • @paullee3726
    @paullee3726 Місяць тому +1

    Iam second

  • @genshinimpactTamil-r5m
    @genshinimpactTamil-r5m Місяць тому +1

    Iam first

  • @svenkenway2962
    @svenkenway2962 Місяць тому

    How about Nikichi? She has animal like ear, ride dragon too