i still love it, its perfect for agro play ,,ram n shoot" especially against lonely tanks can win most 1vs1, sidescraping or facehugging works well most of time, and on short distance the derpy gun dont bother much, only gotta stay away from like stb1 type of tanks. One of few tanks in which u can still feel that u got armor.
honestly I still like this tank. great armor, great camo, 340 heat, decent mobility, tiny flat silhouette... only real problems are bad gun depression and derpy gun handling, but I don't think it's even that bad, it's comparable to 277 and IS-7
its literally a better 277 and people try and say 140 is alot better but the 430u has 3300 dpm too with more alpha and better armor and same speed so its not really any better
Not quite. 277 is better since it is faster so it can take better positions, have a more punchy gun to brawl with and the main reason other than the speed is the turret. 430u's cupolas and top of the turret can be penned without gold, on the other hand even gold ammo struggles against a hulldown 277. Plus russian meds love to burn frontaly so one mistake is enough. On the 140's note, it literally have better dpm and way more tamed gun, with a touch better gundep (which can make your armor quite nice tho) but its not really a frontline brawler like the 430u and the 277 so in that case its more of a playstyle and experience issue. Still out the 3 of these I would recommend the 430u for beginners since if people wont shoot gold it can be forgiving time to time and big alpha+bit less dpm can be a good start for people. 140 and 277 requires a bit more gamesense imo. But all in all as I said, preferences are different so have fun with it
Still better brawling potential without a hulldown. Better trades overall and as I've said, it wont burn out after one shot and it can actually facehug, unlike the the 430u with his weak hull around the turret where people can shoot down since its smaller than most of the tanks it could brawl against.
Even when I'm not actively playing with I love watching you and your videos. I take long breaks from this game but I want you to know I enjoy the break you give me from the world each day.
King Baboon, the index is an absolute gold mine of information and very easy to use/understand. Thank you so much for all those efforts and making it for free!!
It hasn't fallen. Maybe in Skills mind, but its still one of the best T10 medium in the game, and the best medium in some situations. Gun handling is great, only downsize is shell velocity, but you can't have them all...
Gun handling is definitely not great, and since it had the armour nerf a few years back it’s nothing compared to where it used to be, especially now in faster games T10 games used to be filled with 430U’s, now you hardly see it, and I’m sure the reason for that isn’t because it’s one of the best mediums in the game…
@@Fizzoid I won't say anything about the snapshots, wich is like 1/3 is penetrating the targets in 430U, even without gold, and thats insane, but in close combat this gun is really good. Maybe people wanted to be too agressive in 430U acting like a Maus, but still. As skill always say, combination of the things in this tank, for me, its insanse. And I would still count this tank as an epic.
I think the 430u is slept on cause of what it used to be but dont get it wrong this tank is literally a HT and a great med, has one of the better 122 mm's its a russian gun so a bit derpy but 3300 dpm and with turbo it rips and it really dont need it unless you want a fast med of course the 430u isnt about its speed
this was my first tier 10, i tried hard to make it work, but it just not my style, too slow, -5 gun dp is too painful & the gun itself acts on it's own, if it feels like missing shots from 10 meters away then you can't do anything.. changed up to 140 & never looked back at this thing 🤷
@@paylordin_crease9062 430u is basically a ht with avrg gun & leo is a super fast medium with no armor and laser gun.. how tf can those 2 be the same 🤷
Gun handling is what really kills this tank in my opinion and one really important thing i learned while playing mine, never ever peak an E4, even when above him in a hull down position it just shoots through your turret with premium like everywhere
well 430 u is brawler in nature and gun handling is made mean to handle these stuations. it's dpm and gun handling is more than enough in close quarters.
To date, Skillman, the venerable Obj. 430U has been a good tank and now it just doesn't do well in the current meta. I hate what WG has done to a beautiful medium like this - sometimes WG really pisses me off.
The games maps make it a hard game to play because they curate a certain type of play style and if you don't play that way you loose. I think the bushes trees and some cover needs to be rng spawned on the maps so the play can be mixed up and the maps won't get boring or so much hate
I feel like 0.35 accuracy is the threshold, sometimes you hit sometimes you don't, if it drops to 0.33 you are perfect if it climbs to 0.37 you are missing your shots
Took a much needed break from wot for a year and a half and am now getting back into it and everything that was meta is now average due to powercreep. WG really needs to polish and rebalance alot of tanks that needed some tlc.
Object 430 & Obj. 430U were under the nerf hammer, but WoT didn't bother with the big public hanging. They got a small one, & who knows what behind the scenes.
It's the Kelevra 3d style that was available from x mas lootboxes few years ago. Kelevra is Hebrew for 'bad dog' apparently and I guess that's why the marks are different as well.
@@aristaeus2514 ya, I've seen a few of those skins on various Russian mediums. They look like the Tiran series of tanks the Israelis made out of captured t 55s and t 62s, after the Yom Kippur war.
when i got 430 tier X, it had very high dpm and derpy gun, t62a had god-like turret and 140 had a little of both. Then WG made 430 U and buffed/nerfed/buffed nerfed and gave 140 more depression, and all 3 tanks more like each other, so all their identity went out the window, for a long period 430 u was ridiculously OP and t62 useless in comparism. I liked them better with the old setup. T-62a was incredible hull down, 430 was fun city brawler and 140 multi tool. Everything FUN, they touch it and it becomes unusable, like nerf of su-85B and FV304 and lets not forget the birth and demise of the HE Type 4 and 5. You might as well set the SU-85B on fire, hang the crews, and remove both it and FV304 from game.
This tank was my second tier 10. Complete waste of credits. It’s sad because I actually really like the tank. It’s a pocket heavy that actually has a good gun. The one single thing that ruins this tank entirely is the fire chance. Took one to the lower plate? Fire. Light tank grabs a cheeky shot in a drive by? Fire. A strong wind picks up? Fire. It’s really shitty to be sidescraping perfectly only to take a stray shot and burst into flames. Other than that I love this tank. I’m thinking it’s time to start working on the e50m though because I just can’t stand driving a bonfire barrel around with a cannon duct taped to it.
well, it is more and more less to face 430U in randoms and that will give you an advantage because they already forget how good is all around armor of 430u. my another comment is to Skill, we met in randoms several weeks ago and match was neck to neck so i raised pp instead of shot but skill shot and cripples me anyway :)
Guys, do not raise you PPs anymore, please. If you continue doing this, Skill would become a red tomato for ending the games with low score... is that what you want?!?!?! :D :D
@@durachoks i already thought so, same with udes 16, i liked the tank and gun handling wasnt so bad either. im currently grinding the type61 for stb1 and gonna feel the gun in a couple of days for my self
@@Bloody7890 and again, hard to say what is considered by "gun handling", if you take in to account ammo shell velocity and pen than you can easily say udes gun is really bad compared to other meds
destroying the rt he shell change the game meta to hull down wot or autoloader yolo tanks give all the tanks gun depression and turret crazy armor so ppl can play them otherwise ppl will just not play a tank that cant go hull down
Tbf., Obj. 277 is just a better 430U. Same/even a bit better mobility, better Gun and better Armor. And when grinding 277, you can also go for IS-7 Afterwards. So not really worth grinding 430U anymore really. (IMO)
@@Aquila. 430U has more armor, more mobility, faster reload time, faster turret traverse speed, I don´t see how a 277 can´t take over a 430U in a brawl specially if players are on the same level.
@@genzod7940 I wouldn't say that the 430U has more armor, and even if 430 Has faster Reload time, 277 just deals more Damage is more mobile (Or at the same level) and has overall a better gun handling
@@durachoks it certainly is better tho, the only thing the 430u really does better is alpha but its too derpy to make it count otherwise its armor isnt really that much better to propel it to be a better or equal tank
@@snekkie117 430u can sidescrape a lot better than 140. Anyway its hard to tell what tank is better in wot. Take a tomato player and I can bet he will do a lot better in 430u.
One of the best T10 mediums, solid medium tank that can do anything on the field and has a better fear factor than any other medium. Will come out of most situations while other mediums would just die. It can do anything that the 140 does but the 140 could not do what the 430U does, the 140 can´t even do half of what this tank can do on a field, like 5000 blocked damage, facing 3 to 4 heavies in a corner and bouncing like crazy....there is no point to compare, this shit here could even brawl with a Chieftain and come out victorious.
May I say? TOLD YA !!! You are too popular and there are more and more baboons every year. Before WG publishes the 1.23 release you will have to stop sparing baboons. Be it anonymized or not.
i still love it, its perfect for agro play ,,ram n shoot" especially against lonely tanks can win most 1vs1, sidescraping or facehugging works well most of time, and on short distance the derpy gun dont bother much, only gotta stay away from like stb1 type of tanks. One of few tanks in which u can still feel that u got armor.
honestly I still like this tank. great armor, great camo, 340 heat, decent mobility, tiny flat silhouette... only real problems are bad gun depression and derpy gun handling, but I don't think it's even that bad, it's comparable to 277 and IS-7
XD
its literally a better 277 and people try and say 140 is alot better but the 430u has 3300 dpm too with more alpha and better armor and same speed so its not really any better
Not quite. 277 is better since it is faster so it can take better positions, have a more punchy gun to brawl with and the main reason other than the speed is the turret. 430u's cupolas and top of the turret can be penned without gold, on the other hand even gold ammo struggles against a hulldown 277. Plus russian meds love to burn frontaly so one mistake is enough.
On the 140's note, it literally have better dpm and way more tamed gun, with a touch better gundep (which can make your armor quite nice tho) but its not really a frontline brawler like the 430u and the 277 so in that case its more of a playstyle and experience issue. Still out the 3 of these I would recommend the 430u for beginners since if people wont shoot gold it can be forgiving time to time and big alpha+bit less dpm can be a good start for people. 140 and 277 requires a bit more gamesense imo.
But all in all as I said, preferences are different so have fun with it
@@mgb1905 bruh i aint reading that book 277 has no brawling potential if it aint hull down yes its faster
Still better brawling potential without a hulldown. Better trades overall and as I've said, it wont burn out after one shot and it can actually facehug, unlike the the 430u with his weak hull around the turret where people can shoot down since its smaller than most of the tanks it could brawl against.
09:24 meanwhile Tvp T 50/51 in the back: am i a joke to you
Even when I'm not actively playing with I love watching you and your videos. I take long breaks from this game but I want you to know I enjoy the break you give me from the world each day.
King Baboon, the index is an absolute gold mine of information and very easy to use/understand. Thank you so much for all those efforts and making it for free!!
Used to be THE medium tank of choice. Oh how the mighty have fallen!
Good riddance
It hasn't fallen. Maybe in Skills mind, but its still one of the best T10 medium in the game, and the best medium in some situations. Gun handling is great, only downsize is shell velocity, but you can't have them all...
Gun handling is definitely not great, and since it had the armour nerf a few years back it’s nothing compared to where it used to be, especially now in faster games
T10 games used to be filled with 430U’s, now you hardly see it, and I’m sure the reason for that isn’t because it’s one of the best mediums in the game…
@@Fizzoid I won't say anything about the snapshots, wich is like 1/3 is penetrating the targets in 430U, even without gold, and thats insane, but in close combat this gun is really good. Maybe people wanted to be too agressive in 430U acting like a Maus, but still. As skill always say, combination of the things in this tank, for me, its insanse. And I would still count this tank as an epic.
And, just to make all things clear from my perspective, I think that 121B is the best medium in tier 10.
make 0bj-430U great again.......
I'm ready for my daily dose of skill!
I think the 430u is slept on cause of what it used to be but dont get it wrong this tank is literally a HT and a great med, has one of the better 122 mm's its a russian gun so a bit derpy but 3300 dpm and with turbo it rips and it really dont need it unless you want a fast med of course the 430u isnt about its speed
this was my first tier 10, i tried hard to make it work, but it just not my style, too slow, -5 gun dp is too painful & the gun itself acts on it's own, if it feels like missing shots from 10 meters away then you can't do anything.. changed up to 140 & never looked back at this thing 🤷
the 430u nerf was too hard!! before that it was maybe the same like leopard
@@paylordin_crease9062 430u is basically a ht with avrg gun & leo is a super fast medium with no armor and laser gun.. how tf can those 2 be the same 🤷
@@mr.jx5n324 don,t know! was my feeling°! Both are my favourite tanks and 430u was really strong before that
Wold of Tanks battles when both sides have baboon armies: 100% draws...
Gun handling is what really kills this tank in my opinion and one really important thing i learned while playing mine, never ever peak an E4, even when above him in a hull down position it just shoots through your turret with premium like everywhere
Don't peak any tier 10 td except badger and foch b as all others have 375mm and above pen and 268v4 has 260 which can pen
well 430 u is brawler in nature and gun handling is made mean to handle these stuations. it's dpm and gun handling is more than enough in close quarters.
Always lovely to watch you skill! Keep it real man!
To date, Skillman, the venerable Obj. 430U has been a good tank and now it just doesn't do well in the current meta. I hate what WG has done to a beautiful medium like this - sometimes WG really pisses me off.
Obj430u used to be op .
But nowadays it s even avarage X_X
it was heavily nerfed tho
The games maps make it a hard game to play because they curate a certain type of play style and if you don't play that way you loose. I think the bushes trees and some cover needs to be rng spawned on the maps so the play can be mixed up and the maps won't get boring or so much hate
21:08 .... my every shot in last months
Which tanks are going to be in the pass?
I feel like 0.35 accuracy is the threshold, sometimes you hit sometimes you don't, if it drops to 0.33 you are perfect if it climbs to 0.37 you are missing your shots
Where did you get that tank skin? Is it an official skin, or does it come from some addon? Love it!
Took a much needed break from wot for a year and a half and am now getting back into it and everything that was meta is now average due to powercreep. WG really needs to polish and rebalance alot of tanks that needed some tlc.
Object 430 & Obj. 430U were under the nerf hammer, but WoT didn't bother with the big public hanging. They got a small one, & who knows what behind the scenes.
skill please add the starr rating as a filter option in the search engine of the index page
how do i get thin skin?
i love my daily dose of skill... specially when i have exams XD
There was a "new" tier 8 British premium tank that came out last night.
I am surprised that no youtuber makes any content about it.
Which tank?
What kind of gun marks are that? Those are not the soviet ones.
It is because of 3D skin. "Kelevra"
Why does your 430 have stripes not stars for marks
Great vids as usual Skill! Where did you get that skin for your 430 u? It looks Isreali in its style and markings. 😊
It's the Kelevra 3d style that was available from x mas lootboxes few years ago.
Kelevra is Hebrew for 'bad dog' apparently and I guess that's why the marks are different as well.
@@aristaeus2514 ya, I've seen a few of those skins on various Russian mediums. They look like the Tiran series of tanks the Israelis made out of captured t 55s and t 62s, after the Yom Kippur war.
when i got 430 tier X, it had very high dpm and derpy gun, t62a had god-like turret and 140 had a little of both.
Then WG made 430 U and buffed/nerfed/buffed nerfed and gave 140 more depression, and all 3 tanks more like each other,
so all their identity went out the window, for a long period 430 u was ridiculously OP and t62 useless in comparism.
I liked them better with the old setup. T-62a was incredible hull down, 430 was fun city brawler and 140 multi tool.
Everything FUN, they touch it and it becomes unusable, like nerf of su-85B and FV304
and lets not forget the birth and demise of the HE Type 4 and 5.
You might as well set the SU-85B on fire, hang the crews, and remove both it and FV304 from game.
Skill problems, everyone's a Baboon now.
4:25 lol
I play the 430U like if it was a t72 irl , just kinda purching and firing
This is Baby Obj279e?
Kinda miss those times when 430U use to be OP
call me crazy but i honestly preferred the old tier 10 object 430 before it got turned into the object 430U
Thanks for this King. Baboons 4 life.
This tank must be played with turbo and rushing to close range fighting.
4:40 killed a fan of him.
I'm working on this tank now? what would be better? I have 140 I like it🤔any input would be great. Thanks mate☕️
Interesting that you say that this has better gun than 121, I think 121 is way better considering the gun, but this has better armor in my opinion.
121 has a better gun than 430U in every way: better reload, better accuracy, better bloom, better AP penetration, faster shells, same gun depression.
Skill please tell me how to do to have french moe on russian tank?
Its from the 3D skin bro
Grinding the tier 9 at the moment. It's a good tank when I'm not on fire
Tier 10 is much better imo. Gun handling is just as derpy but your armor works much better and you have autowin gold rounds.
This tank was my second tier 10. Complete waste of credits. It’s sad because I actually really like the tank. It’s a pocket heavy that actually has a good gun. The one single thing that ruins this tank entirely is the fire chance. Took one to the lower plate? Fire. Light tank grabs a cheeky shot in a drive by? Fire. A strong wind picks up? Fire. It’s really shitty to be sidescraping perfectly only to take a stray shot and burst into flames. Other than that I love this tank. I’m thinking it’s time to start working on the e50m though because I just can’t stand driving a bonfire barrel around with a cannon duct taped to it.
Always entertained!
and parking him into the wall xD
kinda miss the 340 cupolas ngl
This tank is made for 300m or closer. Anything further away and you cant hit anything.
not true! you can always hit the sky or the dirt
Unless you snapshot on the move
um that's only if you aim if you just point and click it's all good lol
well, it is more and more less to face 430U in randoms and that will give you an advantage because they already forget how good is all around armor of 430u.
my another comment is to Skill, we met in randoms several weeks ago and match was neck to neck so i raised pp instead of shot but skill shot and cripples me anyway :)
Yeah, in close range 1v1 this tank is lethal in random battles, just sidescrape (properly) and farm everyone
Guys, do not raise you PPs anymore, please. If you continue doing this, Skill would become a red tomato for ending the games with low score... is that what you want?!?!?! :D :D
you set stb1 gunhandling 2/5 and obj. 430U 3/5? what? is it true? or did you just have bad games with stb1?
121 gun also rated 2 stars and for this is 3, there is quite a lot of inconsistency in ratings
no it's just a stupid rating. STB is way better in terms of gun handling compared to 430u.
@@SomeOne_86 ofc it is, but its to be expected, skill doesn't play much before rating, so if he will get bad rng for a gun, he will rate it bad
@@durachoks i already thought so, same with udes 16, i liked the tank and gun handling wasnt so bad either. im currently grinding the type61 for stb1 and gonna feel the gun in a couple of days for my self
@@Bloody7890 and again, hard to say what is considered by "gun handling", if you take in to account ammo shell velocity and pen than you can easily say udes gun is really bad compared to other meds
Skill♥️
Chose the worst time to start marking my stb1
the nerf of the 430u was too hard
Baboon legions omfg
God i love that he calls us fellas :). Sort of like a mobster hah
before the armor nerf this tank was close to epic :]
I think the 430U is still a good heavyum....
destroying the rt he shell change the game meta to hull down wot or autoloader yolo tanks give all the tanks gun depression and turret crazy armor so ppl can play them otherwise ppl will just not play a tank that cant go hull down
I need your positive attitude.
Tbf., Obj. 277 is just a better 430U. Same/even a bit better mobility, better Gun and better Armor. And when grinding 277, you can also go for IS-7 Afterwards. So not really worth grinding 430U anymore really. (IMO)
Personally I think that in a 1vs1 brawl the 430U wins.
@@genzod7940 If the Players are on the Same level, never. RNG plays a huge role too tho
@@Aquila. 430U has more armor, more mobility, faster reload time, faster turret traverse speed, I don´t see how a 277 can´t take over a 430U in a brawl specially if players are on the same level.
@@genzod7940 I wouldn't say that the 430U has more armor, and even if 430 Has faster Reload time, 277 just deals more Damage is more mobile (Or at the same level) and has overall a better gun handling
430U in battlepass or not.. Obj.140 will be my first tier X tank and i think it's quite better than the 430U
lol how do you know if its better if you havent even played it yet
140 is da beast
@@durachoks it certainly is better tho, the only thing the 430u really does better is alpha but its too derpy to make it count otherwise its armor isnt really that much better to propel it to be a better or equal tank
@@snekkie117 430u can sidescrape a lot better than 140. Anyway its hard to tell what tank is better in wot. Take a tomato player and I can bet he will do a lot better in 430u.
430 gun is better for corridor and city maps also you have very reliable armor when used correct why would you think the 140 is better overall
lol in what world this gun is better than 121
Day 514 without AEG platoon daily dose of skill
My fav t10 med
Wow, just saw now that on this skin marks of honor are stripes and not red stars... such a turn off :)
Sveikas, klausimas - kokiu būdu tu pakeli pabūklą važiuodamas? Mano atveju dešinė peliuko ir laikai, sunku.. Dėkui už atsakymą :)
it is the only way
baboom parade :D
121>430u
Aren't those british excelence marks on the barrel? Wth?
wait hang on, the 430U is Russian, so why are the marks French stripes? mod?
It‘s the 3D-skin from the christmas boxes. Without it, the gunmarks show up as stars as on every other russian tank
gun is better than stb for me,
ÅJ ÅÅÅÅJ 😂
One of the best T10 mediums, solid medium tank that can do anything on the field and has a better fear factor than any other medium.
Will come out of most situations while other mediums would just die. It can do anything that the 140 does but the 140 could not do what the 430U does, the 140 can´t even do half of what this tank can do on a field, like 5000 blocked damage, facing 3 to 4 heavies in a corner and bouncing like crazy....there is no point to compare, this shit here could even brawl with a Chieftain and come out victorious.
🙏
gg
Skiiiiillllll
Hahaha Skill soon will sit in the corner not able to kill anyone... draws for days lol
u
May I say?
TOLD YA !!!
You are too popular and there are more and more baboons every year. Before WG publishes the 1.23 release you will have to stop sparing baboons. Be it anonymized or not.
skilllllllllll, your HWK 30 video is way to olddddddddd, even older then my grandma, can we have a new videoooooo for that?
Stop whining...
first