First off ,id STRONGLY RECOMMEND headphones!!😊😊 Secondly, Anyone who wants to use this videos sounds to make modifications on train sim world , or even train sim classic, can feel free to do so.
Yep. Its deep and slow . Makes them sound more powerful!! But they are fast accelerating units. Its interesting. Also loud is nice , as long as its not too loud. Tbh they're quiter in reality yhan audio recordings . Its weird
Finally rode on these again to their max speed , they make excellent sounds!! Very characterful. Second gen electrostars are among my favourite trains. I love the plastic feel they give off. What suprised me is the humming of the motor shaft fans at higher speeds!! They sound cool!!
@@Cheatreal46 ah which sort of gen 2s ? 387s or 377/6s The humming noise reminds me of the 465s . ua-cam.com/video/h0lT5jlNiho/v-deo.htmlsi=2FsziZxGUQjE_eXw this is my video from a year ago of the 465 metro cammels
@gapthemind--mindthegap8524 The 377/6 and /7 although I do see /4s coming to stop or pass through. I do remember the class 455/8 I would get that a lot to London Vic.
The GWR Class 387/1s are very nice and lot smoother. I have been on them few times to Reading, Didcot Parkway and Bristol Parkway. They have such excellent speed as they are capable of reaching speeds up to 110mph (177km/h).
@@gapthemind--mindthegap8524 Yeah, a handful of the London Paddington to Cardiff Central services are actually operated using Class 387s. Bristol Parkway is one of the calling points on that route, although the Class 387 services also call additionally at Didcot Parkway.
Would love to see a 377/7 doing such speeds with modifications. The 379s will be entering service with Great Northern soon, some already being dragged from Worksop to Hornsey. I wonder if Great Northern will add modifications to them to get their speed extended to 110 to deal with the tight gaps between services at Welwyn. The 379s will make riding 1st class with Great Northern worth it again, as their first class seats, (compared to the GX units), is amazing. With the addition of the 387/3s to Great Northern, I will probably go hunting for them also, as my goal is to ride every Electrostar variant, my list is almost complete, as I have been on all variants of the 375, 377, the 357, the 378, the 376, the 379, and the GX 387s, still, I have to tick off the HX ones as well as the GWR & Great Northern ones, all to be done very soon!
If Great Northern decided not to have the Class 379s then I should think that they would inherit the Class 379s and to boost more extra capacity especially on Reading-Newbury shuttle service.
Im actually wondering if some class 387s will be cascaded down to southern. Class 387 /3s , its likely best to just chill at Finsbury park if im honest and wait around for them to appear on a cambrige or kings lynn service.
They are pretty audible towards top speed. Then again I already knew electrostars were loud because when I used to time 375s they would be noisy at speed too. Not as noisy as 465 Met-Cams though!
So i was having a conversation with a dude on my jubilee line video, if you want to peer at that comment section again, he said what i basically said. That that theres a motor fan attatched to a shaft on the motor so it spins. The 465s motor fan drown out the motor/drive screams With 377s 1st gen, its hard to hear the motors after 80mph..on the 377/5s ..for some reason they are more audiable. 377/7s and 6s sound like the 377/5s after 80mph. Meaning you can hear a weird constant set of screams that werent there before initially and taking off the power doesent make the sounds dissapear, it just remains constant. The initial /motor/gear drive screams you hear building up in pitch sort of get drowned out by the other random pitches around 80mph on the next gen 377s. And 377/5s. 387s seem to have the most clear cut motor sounds after 80mph of all of them. Class 379s sound similar to 387s after 85mph..its a very subtle difference between electrostars at higher speeds. All i can say is 377,1/2/3/4 And all 375s are quiter at higher speeds than the next gen electrostars, they dont hum, they dont scream as much, you mainly hear track noise. Thats been my experience when i used to always ride them. They are loud at the beginning, but arent as sharp towards higher speeds. 387s/379s and 377/7s are louder at higher speeds. And funnily enough the 387 sounds like a cross over with a 465 only because it has audiable motor humming noises!!(377/7s hum too) The only difference here is the humming is still at a lower pitch, meaning the electrostar technically still didnt reach its max speed. Its likely true they can hit 120mph without software limits.
@@gapthemind--mindthegap8524 Most AC motored units can well exceed 100. I know 365s theoretically had the power exceed 110 and just about hit 120 according to some now deleted posts on the rail forums. I wouldn't be surprised if a 387 could hit 120
@@SolomonClarkeTrains-nw1sf yep, the 365s in testing. But the 365s had lower gearing than electrostars due to the humming and audiable sync mode sounds being a bit more higher pitch at earlier speeds. Electrostars seem to sound like they are geared higher than most trains geared for 100mph. 365s likely had good power to weight ratio and a gear ratio that despite being lower than 365s, likely had gear ratios that exceedes the motors peak spinning capacity allowing it to go towards higher speeds. In the electrostars case. The motor itself sounds like its geared up in a way where the motor takes longer to reach peak spin rate, compared to the 365s. Class 700s tend to hum aroung 85mph indicating the motor fan is starting to hit higher rotational speeds . But surprisingly i think they are geared slightly higher than 365s are. The hum hits a very moderate pitch nearer 100mph meaning it may be geared towards 110mph (which it is according to an article) or 115mph max. This is also why i said the class 378s are probably geared for 100mph because the sync mode is really low pitched at 25mph where as the metro cammels is higher pitched at the same speed , the motor fan humming becomes more audiable at mid speed on the 378s too which is why its likely geared towards upper speed thresholds. Its weight also suggests its designed for higher speeds in mind too.
@@SolomonClarkeTrains-nw1sf second response to this comment as i made one before The problem with 387s is they can hit 120mph very likely. The issue is, the gear ratio sounds like its smaller and made to be optimised for mid speed. So the motor had to be geared upwards to enable it to make it to higher speeds. I think it would take longer to hit 120mph than if it had the a gear ratio based on the class 378s and then geared upwards of 110mph, it could probably go towards 120mph alot easier in theory. Its hard to explain..
@@theunknown1st307 they dont because they arent actually allowed to go at that speed . Sure sometimes drivers overspeed, but its likely you caught it at 100mph. They arent allowed to even hit 110mph due to pantograph and contact wire limitations on the ECML. Unless theyve been updated which I haven't heard of yet, its likely that they arent hitting anyway near 110mph at the moment.
Two things are true here. They dont ride the best, BUT they ride worse over that track where you could hear the suspension jerking. It even drowned out the traction sound slightly until the jerking stopped. Thats what i mean. They werent that bad here though on this track until it jerked around mainly. It was 387/156 & 387/170. Still not as good as 377/6s. Riding these at 110mph is fun/scary as a result of ride quality😭😭🤣🤣
First off ,id STRONGLY RECOMMEND headphones!!😊😊
Secondly, Anyone who wants to use this videos sounds to make modifications on train sim world , or even train sim classic, can feel free to do so.
electrostar motors are really calming. it's loud but that slow increase in pitch is really nice
Yep. Its deep and slow . Makes them sound more powerful!! But they are fast accelerating units. Its interesting. Also loud is nice , as long as its not too loud. Tbh they're quiter in reality yhan audio recordings . Its weird
Finally rode on these again to their max speed , they make excellent sounds!! Very characterful. Second gen electrostars are among my favourite trains. I love the plastic feel they give off.
What suprised me is the humming of the motor shaft fans at higher speeds!! They sound cool!!
Good video dude enjoyed it. I love the sound's of the electrostars keep it up!.
Same here man, im glad you enjoyed it!! These your favourite trains?
Yeah I like no love the electrostars I live right next to a station filled of electrostars. I just find the sounds of them (gen 2) so majestic lol.
@@Cheatreal46 ah which sort of gen 2s ? 387s or 377/6s
The humming noise reminds me of the 465s .
ua-cam.com/video/h0lT5jlNiho/v-deo.htmlsi=2FsziZxGUQjE_eXw this is my video from a year ago of the 465 metro cammels
@gapthemind--mindthegap8524 The 377/6 and /7 although I do see /4s coming to stop or pass through. I do remember the class 455/8 I would get that a lot to London Vic.
@@gapthemind--mindthegap8524 I also see what u mean by the humming noise with the 465.
The GWR Class 387/1s are very nice and lot smoother. I have been on them few times to Reading, Didcot Parkway and Bristol Parkway. They have such excellent speed as they are capable of reaching speeds up to 110mph (177km/h).
They go to Bristol parkway?
@@gapthemind--mindthegap8524 Yeah, a handful of the London Paddington to Cardiff Central services are actually operated using Class 387s. Bristol Parkway is one of the calling points on that route, although the Class 387 services also call additionally at Didcot Parkway.
Would love to see a 377/7 doing such speeds with modifications. The 379s will be entering service with Great Northern soon, some already being dragged from Worksop to Hornsey. I wonder if Great Northern will add modifications to them to get their speed extended to 110 to deal with the tight gaps between services at Welwyn. The 379s will make riding 1st class with Great Northern worth it again, as their first class seats, (compared to the GX units), is amazing. With the addition of the 387/3s to Great Northern, I will probably go hunting for them also, as my goal is to ride every Electrostar variant, my list is almost complete, as I have been on all variants of the 375, 377, the 357, the 378, the 376, the 379, and the GX 387s, still, I have to tick off the HX ones as well as the GWR & Great Northern ones, all to be done very soon!
If Great Northern decided not to have the Class 379s then I should think that they would inherit the Class 379s and to boost more extra capacity especially on Reading-Newbury shuttle service.
Im actually wondering if some class 387s will be cascaded down to southern. Class 387 /3s , its likely best to just chill at Finsbury park if im honest and wait around for them to appear on a cambrige or kings lynn service.
@@AndrewG1989nah great northern are getting them. They recently got rewarded the 379s .
They are pretty audible towards top speed. Then again I already knew electrostars were loud because when I used to time 375s they would be noisy at speed too. Not as noisy as 465 Met-Cams though!
So i was having a conversation with a dude on my jubilee line video, if you want to peer at that comment section again, he said what i basically said. That that theres a motor fan attatched to a shaft on the motor so it spins. The 465s motor fan drown out the motor/drive screams
With 377s 1st gen, its hard to hear the motors after 80mph..on the 377/5s ..for some reason they are more audiable.
377/7s and 6s sound like the 377/5s after 80mph.
Meaning you can hear a weird constant set of screams that werent there before initially and taking off the power doesent make the sounds dissapear, it just remains constant. The initial /motor/gear drive screams you hear building up in pitch sort of get drowned out by the other random pitches around 80mph on the next gen 377s. And 377/5s.
387s seem to have the most clear cut motor sounds after 80mph of all of them.
Class 379s sound similar to 387s after 85mph..its a very subtle difference between electrostars at higher speeds.
All i can say is 377,1/2/3/4
And all 375s are quiter at higher speeds than the next gen electrostars, they dont hum, they dont scream as much, you mainly hear track noise. Thats been my experience when i used to always ride them. They are loud at the beginning, but arent as sharp towards higher speeds. 387s/379s and 377/7s are louder at higher speeds.
And funnily enough the 387 sounds like a cross over with a 465 only because it has audiable motor humming noises!!(377/7s hum too) The only difference here is the humming is still at a lower pitch, meaning the electrostar technically still didnt reach its max speed. Its likely true they can hit 120mph without software limits.
@@gapthemind--mindthegap8524 Most AC motored units can well exceed 100. I know 365s theoretically had the power exceed 110 and just about hit 120 according to some now deleted posts on the rail forums. I wouldn't be surprised if a 387 could hit 120
@@SolomonClarkeTrains-nw1sf yep, the 365s in testing. But the 365s had lower gearing than electrostars due to the humming and audiable sync mode sounds being a bit more higher pitch at earlier speeds.
Electrostars seem to sound like they are geared higher than most trains geared for 100mph.
365s likely had good power to weight ratio and a gear ratio that despite being lower than 365s, likely had gear ratios that exceedes the motors peak spinning capacity allowing it to go towards higher speeds. In the electrostars case. The motor itself sounds like its geared up in a way where the motor takes longer to reach peak spin rate, compared to the 365s.
Class 700s tend to hum aroung 85mph indicating the motor fan is starting to hit higher rotational speeds . But surprisingly i think they are geared slightly higher than 365s are. The hum hits a very moderate pitch nearer 100mph meaning it may be geared towards 110mph (which it is according to an article) or 115mph max.
This is also why i said the class 378s are probably geared for 100mph because the sync mode is really low pitched at 25mph where as the metro cammels is higher pitched at the same speed , the motor fan humming becomes more audiable at mid speed on the 378s too which is why its likely geared towards upper speed thresholds. Its weight also suggests its designed for higher speeds in mind too.
@@SolomonClarkeTrains-nw1sf second response to this comment as i made one before
The problem with 387s is they can hit 120mph very likely. The issue is, the gear ratio sounds like its smaller and made to be optimised for mid speed. So the motor had to be geared upwards to enable it to make it to higher speeds. I think it would take longer to hit 120mph than if it had the a gear ratio based on the class 378s and then geared upwards of 110mph, it could probably go towards 120mph alot easier in theory. Its hard to explain..
I am getting a sore backside just looking at them seats. 😀
Their not as bad as class 700s tbh. But still a pain long term. Ive gotten used to it tbh
Non Stop To Slough & Didcot Parkway
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I realised that after😂😂😂 but i wasnt about to delete and reupload it . I just though "they can pause it this one time".
you should try go on a Great Northern 387 I always see these go 110mph
Great northern dont go 110mph. Apparently there are restrictions on that line.. GWR are the only lines where they can hit 110mph atm.
Nope. GN 387s are limited to 100mph as their pantographs aren't suitable for 110mph running on the ECML.
@@BobC250 they should change that asap. No idea why they have a line up to 115mph but cant enable the panto for better performance
@@gapthemind--mindthegap8524they do I've seen them pass Stevenage that speed
@@theunknown1st307 they dont because they arent actually allowed to go at that speed . Sure sometimes drivers overspeed, but its likely you caught it at 100mph. They arent allowed to even hit 110mph due to pantograph and contact wire limitations on the ECML. Unless theyve been updated which I haven't heard of yet, its likely that they arent hitting anyway near 110mph at the moment.
What is the name of the app you use for recording train speed?
Droid Dashcam
4:32 no, the suspension is jerking because it's a 387 and rides very poorly. 165s/166s over the same track were never anywhere near as bad.
Two things are true here. They dont ride the best, BUT they ride worse over that track where you could hear the suspension jerking. It even drowned out the traction sound slightly until the jerking stopped. Thats what i mean. They werent that bad here though on this track until it jerked around mainly. It was 387/156 & 387/170. Still not as good as 377/6s. Riding these at 110mph is fun/scary as a result of ride quality😭😭🤣🤣
@@gapthemind--mindthegap8524 I don't like riding these at 110. Very uncomfortable and shaky
@@SolomonClarkeTrains-nw1sf i just accepted the scariness🤣🤣it was like the old days of riding MK 2 BRELs 321s for example.
@@gapthemind--mindthegap8524 Nah, I've been on Renatus 321s and although they were bouncy they were nowhere near 387 or 375/377 level bouncy
@@SolomonClarkeTrains-nw1sf renatus is fine, it's the non refirbished ones im on about 🤣