Brain Degradation of a Pro MMA Fighter Over Time
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- Опубліковано 28 лис 2024
- This is former UFC fighter Nam Phan from 2012 to 2024 and it shows concerning transformation in his speech indicating late signs of brain degradation. Early in my career, I had the opportunity to study a group of young MMA fighters, aged 18-25, to examine biomarkers of brain injury. Despite the fighters' youth, they were already showing early signs of neurodegeneration, a condition once colloquially referred to as being "punch drunk." I have mixed feelings about this type of activity. While there is a lot of excitement and energy of MMA as a sport there is a serious risk of severe neurological consequences for its participants.
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My dad gave me a lot of freedom but would not let me box.
Thanks dad
What should i do? Maybe something like karate? I wanna get in a sport but its honestly pretty frustrating lol
Bdnf, the Diaz brothers and the famous extra gas tanks and how neither Nick nor Nate are never knocked out, that endurance training builds bdnf in the brain and the bdnf pretty much encases the brain so the brain never hits the inside of the skull.
It's that or just don't get hit, aikido and Muay Thai compliment each other but divert the punch and the other person sees that you're not trying to hurt them.
I'm tall, so short guys or jerks have to prove something.
I love boxing but I won’t fight. It’s good to know how to defend yourself.
@@waveexistence3512 so what do you do? Like just hit the sack and that kind of stuff?
@@Hormigacronopio taekwondo
The thumbnail made me think the doctor was one of the guys with clear signs of CTE.
Me too, I thought the same from the thumbnail.
Same 😂
That stare
Same❤
Same!
Dude this is heartbreaking
Can we stop people fighting for money pls?
😔
They choose it.
Bro. Sometimes im a bit hard on my self for not pursuing mma. If im honest with myself im not athletic enough, my props and condolences for these fighyer pursuong their dreams. God knows.
@@ronisy7063the fuck do you mean by we? Stop talking like that its fucking cringe. Let people do whatever the fuck they want to do. Yes its sad but thats how it is
My dad was a boxing coach, I grew up in a boxing gym, three amateurs match under my belt, quit when I learned about CTE. Probably the best decision I made in my life.
It's why i got out of boxing.
I was getting migraines and i asked my dad (who went golden gloves) if he used to get them. He (the man who got me in and trained me) said "No. ..... you're out, you're done". And i never got in the ring again.
He passed away from a brain tumor.
💔 Sincerest condolences brother. 😢
Your dad is a good person
Rip
U got a good dad. Condolences for the loss friend !!
great father
Recently diagnosed with early onset dementia (53 years old).
Played football from 8 thru 18.
Got my "bell rung" a hundred times. Service connected brain trauma, fights, motorcycle wrecks etc.
Takes me awhile to put thoughts together.
Good luck brother. Wishing you the best.
I'm sorry. Wishing you amazing support through this
Not a doctor, not medical advice, but I would recommend looking into lion's mane, l-carnitine, and taurine supplementation. All of which have been shown to promote neurogenesis and neuroplasticity while delaying the onset of advanced dementia.
Would also recommend activities that encourage neurogenesis, such as learning new skills, playing chess, doing crosswords, playing a musical instrument, etc. Anything to stimulate activity in the brain.
I am there with you it's frustrating. I was an aviation mechanic after I left the ground world. I still do it now just makes me sad after sooo many head injuries I might have to quit doing what I love.
@@JohnDoe-pd2lh
Most physical activity like walking or riding a bike will compliment treatment. Both mind and body together.
It is very sad to think about the fact that these kids are taking traumatic brain injuries before their brain is even fully developed
In ThaiLand kids like 7 years old have to endure the same brain trauma. Cause fighting is the only way to get out of poverty.
@ohreally1997 typically by "development" people mean brain size and maturation, which indeed ends at around 25. Nobody thinks that your brain simply stops advancing lmao.
@@quocanhpham8033What the fuck are you talking about? My physician is Thai. He grew up poor as shit.
He had to do some crazy shit to get where he is now but he didn’t have to fight? You’re more brain dead than these ex fighters if you think the only way to escape poverty in Thailand is to become a pro fighter
@@ohreally1997 If they had specified the age "25" I would agree, but they didn't. The human prefrontal cortex definitely keeps developing throughout one's 20s
@@quocanhpham8033it’s not
I like how you used the doctor discussing it as the 'brain damaged' thumbnail lol
it's appropriate tbh. he still looks dumber than modern Nam
I was thinking it was him messed up with the thumbnail
It was probably a youtube auto thumbnail
it’s ridiculous how growing up, we always hear about the good parts of a career rather than the bad effects like this… and now we find out
It’s because the good parts belong to the people with a platform. The athletes who reach the most people are the ones with the most money. Even if they have mental deterioration, they are such a legend people brushed it off.
Now we see the people who didn’t reach those heights.
MMA, Boxing, Football ... CTE and brain damage all around. Football players die younger, are more prone to violence post retirement and suffer more neurological problems than the general public. I'd suspect MMA and Boxing are the same, but we don't have nearly the same level of controlled studies as football with it's retirement plans and union.
I grew up in the 80s and 90s.
There's always been warnings for these kinds of careers. Pay attention.
I mean it's common sense, like if you get hit in the head alot your brain will get fucked up.
Its not like people were hiding this, it's just those that fight decided they want to tale that risk
The info has always been out there especially if you research something before jumping in feet first and blind.
The worst one was that young fighter who won, seemingly looked fine, then collapsed. He died on the same day. He may have won, but it costed his life 😢
Million Dollar Baby?
It's actually a very good idea for younger people to get checked up, especially for potential heart issues that can crop up even if you are super fit and active (happened to a lad in my brother's school due to a heart defect that effectively caused an aortal tear, dude was a really good rugby player apparently, so we had drives to get heart checks for this and other issues at the school shortly afterwards for any kid in the area).
Fighting is dangerous, but if you keel over and die immediately after a match, and it isn't 15 round of blunt force trauma to the skull a la boxing (because that absolutely can happen as a result of cranial bleeding or other forms of brain damage if you get hit hard repeatedly in the head, has happened before multiple times), it's probably going to be the result of an underlying issue you didn't get checked up.
Take care of your health, you only really get once chance, and it's best to be aware of potential risks, going for regular checkups isn't viable for everyone, not everyone has the time, money, or even ability to do so, so when you do get a chance, always go for any checkup for diseases that can strike up at any age if you are concerned.
Very sad.
@AveSicarius well said.
@@AveSicariusEspecially if they got the jab
I did MMA in high school and quit for this reason. I met a guy who had been doing it awhile, realized he was rapidly declining mentally, and eventually quit.
We dindt ask
@gamerbeast3616 your multiple personalities maybe but informative knowledge none the less from the brother.
You don’t “do mma” in high school. You maybe trained a couple times? You don’t just show up to a gym and have a title fight. Mma is a mixture of multiple fighting styles, which no state will allow under the age of 18, and certainly no active participant would ever say they are “doing mma”.
@@lucrative6477 buddy what states? Martial arts are WAAAAYYYY more popular outside of US but somehow you just assumed he's American? Talk about "I never left my small town in like Maine" mentality lmao
There's PLENTY of "MMA" gyms in Europe for example, that teach a mixture of different martial arts or specific standup/ground combos so you can pick classes like boxing and wrestling, muai thai and BJJ.
Also idk where you came up with that "over 18 only" stuff, as if you couldn't train wrestling and boxing as a high schooler and earlier in US... and as for my example Europe, I trained BJJ and "bullshido" (Aikido lmao although I dropped out after few classes seeing it as pointless- guess my feeling was correct) at the age of 12 and this was waaaaayyy before UFC popularity worldwide (around 2000-2005) - martial arts only got bigger and I mean WAAAAYYYYYYY bigger a decade later with much higher availability to adults and youngsters alike.
@@lucrative6477I trained mma as a teen. And had stop because I had growth condition (muscle not growing long enough to keep up with bone needed physical therapy) As in I had learned karate, judo, boxing, taekwondo, jujitsu. There’s not an 18+ rule for training and safe sparring.
Ive been playing football since 8th grade. Practicing mixed martial-arts since 14, just before i turned 15. Had plenty of undiagnosed concussions from football and actually think that training was way worse than most of my fighting training. Constant head ramming as an offensive lineman and linebacker definitely caused damage. The risk of later life quality is my biggest consideration in training these days and i know i cant get back any bit of myself that i lose. Its good for people to be educated on these topics. The people who choose to train should do so as safely as possible. Ive been to the Colosseum and the original olympic training grounds multiple times. Ive been enamored with the sport and see whats possible but i also know what you can lose along the way. Its a dangerous game and everyone should get out sooner rather than later if they choose to participate!
I told my Granpa I wanted to fight and he counseled me to stay out of the ring. He said he boxed and though he was fine he saw far more people lose their cognition than those who could go on to live normally. I kept training but began to look at the older guys more carefully. Scared me enough to stay the f out of the ring without head gear.
Head gear doesn't necessarily help though. Protects your face, but your head is actually heavier with the gear, so technically you can get heavier impact between your brain and cranium (which is what causes concussions).
@@artax3434So is the only good solution to not do martial arts with striking?
@@BOSSDONMANNo reason to do hard sparing ever. Even if you wanna go pro, some advocate to heavy spar sparingly. You can train. It's the head concussions and getting hit in it.
@@BOSSDONMANnot to do mixed martial arts or boxing period the answer you are looking for.
Head gear does not protect against Brain injury and in fact can cause more Brain damage because people get a false sense of security.
For those who dont know, this fighters name is Nam Phan. He had 8 fights in the UFC and only won 2. Competing against the best fighters in the world, it doesnt take a long lustrious career to take ever lasting damage, as you see in this video. What an insane turn of events... He was one of my favorite during his time on the ultimate fighter show.
I'm sure he fought before he got to the UFC.
@@barth9580 yeah he definitely had fights before. He was 16-7 before he hit the ufc. 3 of the 7 were TKOs in the first round, 4 were decisions (which I'd argue are worse for your head). All 8 of his UFC fights went to decision, 6 of those being losses. He continued fighting and won 3 out of 7 fights before calling the quits. Final MMA record was 21 and 17. He's known for sparring in the gym and the motto he closes every video with is fight or die. Tough to walk away from the sport at the right time. He's currently fighting in muy Thai professionally with a goal of reaching 50 fights. But yeah his speech began to get slurred somewhere around 2015/16 after his UFC fights. Sad sight to see man.
Most of that damage came from training tho right?
Its not the actual fights that do the most damage most of the time . Its the decades of training and sparring day in and day out . I realized this when I was.kickboxing for awhile . After me and some friends got good and started soaring heavy I saw how taking hard shots can affect you for a long time and decided against trying to pursue it any further . I still train and will do the odd spar here and there but for the most part it's not worth it
IIRC he transitioned into boxing after the UFC, and he never was known for his hands, so I would assume that didn't help as far as accumulating brain trauma
My biggest regret in life is playing contact sports when I was young. This was a time in the 80's to early 90's where this wasn't talked about. I've had 4 major concussions and probably about 7 minor ones and I can say it definitely is affecting my life in my 50's.
I'm middle-aged and don't even like drinking alcohol anymore since I've experienced how even a single hard seltzer affects my ability to work in my highly-technical field.
Prayers for you and your family ❤
... Who woulda thought that punching people would have consequences? 🫣
@@sherrilynnnelson703Being punched is actually the case.
@@sherrilynnnelson703Being punched is actually the case.
I would not trade my wit for anything. It is the most valuable asset a human can have. It makes us humans.
Finally somebody revealing the truth behind these dangerous sports!!!
Avoid taking free injuries thanks!
Like avoiding anything the government recommends and provides free of charge until it's mandated or you lose your job
@@mangeload you're an MMA fighter, aren't you?
Tell that to football
@@Tvianne No amout of CTE can explain being as braindead as @mangeload
How about you let these warriors decide what they want to do with their lives? Quit trying to save and control everyone. Some people are willing to risk the second half of life to achieve unimaginable things in the first half. Respect and appreciate what these men lay on the line every time they step into a cage!
One of my occasional trainers was a former No. 10 ranked welterweight boxer named Billy Wyatt. He was savagely beaten for 10 rounds before a hometown Richmond, Virginia crowd and a referee who would not stop the fight. Afterwards his permanent brain damage was so profound he could never again tie his shoes or speak a coherent sentence. That one fight effectively ended his life and I was at ringside. Needless to say he could no longer train with anyone afterwards.
This is the reality of “contact sports” that fans intentionally ignore. It destroys the mind leaving behind an empty husk and there is no more terrible death than that.
I think Dana and all the trainers bear a huge responsibility for turning MMA into a much more brutal sport than it started out as. Now it's just martial arts, WWE-style. I stopped watching and supporting MMA 15 years ago. Sorry, Dana, but you suck.
It's the fighters choice. Good refs are important, but sometimes the fighters before the fight instruct the ref to give them a long leash. No matter, it's not for us to decide whether fighters wanna fight or not
@@MrScoobySnacks23then you're selfish people who care only for yourself
@@MrScoobySnacks23 These fighters are often so young. It’s definitely more complicated than it simply being their choice, on a biological/neurological level. Whats the phrase often used about the military taking kids at 18? Young, dumb and full of c*m. They’re easy to indoctrinate and steer. They obey. They’re kids. I don’t think we should be comforted by the fact that it’s simply their choice. It’s pretty irresponsible. A lifetime lost because of a short lived dream when their brains haven’t fully developed in the first place. Pretty heartbreaking.
Someone could have thrown in the towel tho right?
“I made all of this money… but at what cost? My brain is damaged permanently. My only brain.”
The problem is that most of them don't make much money.
Even the ones at the top don't make much money compared to all other sports
@@kuriencary I was mainly saying it as an example. But yeah it’s honestly sad, they could die at any moment in the ring and they get chump change.
who said this?
@@AntiqueMeme no one. Purely just example of what UFC/MMA fighters deal with. They get fortune, they’re famous but now deal with permanent damage. Such as severe brain injury that disrupts the cognitive ability’s such as talking fluent.
Thank you for your compassion energy and empathy!
When I was young my father stopped me from competitive fighting. I trained, I so wanted to fight professionally. He would get so pist at me. I grew up without the internet, I had no idea. Dad knew, he knew how dangerous the sport is. Thanks again Dad, you have always had my best interest in your heart.😊
And now, you're able to to go on making lifesaving inventions out of household materials
Considering you spell pissed like "pist", nothing of value would have been lost had you decided to do competitive fighting.
@@ricardovonpepsistein3497 appreciate the insult. Thanks for the positive feed back. How's your fat wife doing. ☺
@@ricardovonpepsistein3497 what an arsehole comment. You realise you're saying someone is so stupid that a life altering brain injury would've made no difference to who they are because they misspelled one word? It could've been a typo. And even if it wasn't, an error in spelling is no indication of someone's general intelligence.
@@ricardovonpepsistein3497youtube flags certain words like most swears and phrases that sound aggressive and deletes them. So my guess is he probably intentionally wrote it like that but 🤷🏼
NO sport is worth your brain: not (american) football, not hockey, not boxing, not MMA, none of them! I even know of a retired soccer players who has significant brain damage from doing headers.
Its been worth it for those that have alot of success, but agree its generally not a good gamble. MMA should absolutely not be singled out either like it is in this clip though.
How the hell do you get brain damage from head butting a ball?
@@_penguin_9946 If there are many impacts on the head (with a ball pr also with another player on the field), they will pretty much add up over time.
@@_penguin_9946 you really have to ask this question? wow
@@_penguin_9946 Balls were much heavier back in the day. Now balls can be much faster so I guess the problem remains. A relative of mine used to be a pro football player and is now in serious mental decline at age 60.
I had a blood clot that caused an ischemic stroke when I was 42 and it has completely changed my life it was bilateral so it affected both sides of the brain. I lost half my vision, much cognitive functioning and probably most difficult of all is my independence. I can’t drive. I need assistance to go everywhere and I feel like a child in a grown woman’s body. Please take necessary precautions regarding trauma that is avoidable because you never know what tomorrow brings to you. Compassion and knowledge is so important. ❤
Im sorry that happened to you. Sending you love❤. May I ask what was the cause? Was it due to any trauma?
That is realy sad! All the best!
That is awful. I am so sorry that happened to you!
Thank you for caring about others! I pray your condition improves someday soon.
@@erythroblastosis10 tysm for your kind words. they never figured out what was the cause and I’m kind of considered a medical mystery because it’s really unusual. It was also bilateral which means it affected both sides of my brain which is pretty rare and super dangerous. I was in ICU for about three weeks and most of the time, the daily rounds from doctors felt like an episode of the TV show House because everyone was stunned and studying me. i had every test imaginable, including a spinal tap, searching for some hidden infection. I have no history of a traumatic event. This began when I went to the ER with a migraine after I started to lose my vision. The doctors insisted it was an ocular migraineand chose not to act for six hours. During that time I had two more mini strokes and when they finally gave me an MRI they had realized how very real the situation was in spite of how rare it may be for a 40 something year-old woman to have a sudden stroke. Nobody wants to be the crazy Karen screaming in the emergency room for someone to pay attention to them, but there needs to be a balance where patient respect, nurses and nurses, trust and take seriously seriously what patience are expressing to them. Sorry for the novel; it’s just so important for people to understand the full scope of healthcare and the biases that are present on both sides. Thank you for listening and I apologize for any odd typos, poor punctuation as I rely on dictation, which doesn’t really love my jersey accent 😉🖤
I did kickboxing for six years, started noticing migraines constantly couldn’t think straight like a brain fog and was having a hard time understanding something simple when someone would explain shit to me. Gave it up years ago when I got kicked in the ear knocked me down so hard I couldn’t see. Freaked me out I never went back. I miss it every single day. But like my uncle said you only get one body
I know a guy like this, he was a boxer in the 80's, had a handful of pro fights, won a couple. Dudes the same way, punch drunk to this day and it's heartbreaking to see.
That sounds like my uncle. Won the golden gloves at 17 and his boxing coach talked him into going pro. He had me talked into following in his footsteps all the way up til 5th grade. That's when i could tell something wasn't right with him and as a 5th grader, I knew it was from boxing.
Most of the damage is done in the gym. If people stop sparring hard and did Technical low intensity sparring like the Thai’s, brain health would be significantly better for MMA fighters and boxers
This is heartbreaking. MMA needs to be banned.
Very female response. It doesn't need to be banned; implementation of better sparring practices would significantly decrease the incidence of neurodegeneration.@@exveganbadgal
@@exveganbadgalLmao Banned 🤣
Have had 5 concussions before 18, which affects you even more heavily, and several brain surgeries. PROTECT YOUR BRAIN!
There is no brain surgery for concussions. What are you talking about?
@@bradsanders407 good sir, the original commenter did not specifically say that he had brain surgeries done due to concussions. He stated that he had many concussions (5) before the age of 18 and how that effects the brain even more, and THEN he stated how he ALSO had several brain surgeries. Just wanted to clear things up. Ofc I can be wrong, but that's most likely untrue.
Best regards,
Your Healthcare Provider
@@bradsanders407 he didn't say concussions were the cause. He said he's had 5 concussions and brain surgeries. Also, severe concussions can lead to brain surgery.
I wish I only had 5. I had that many before middle school. 3 in middle school and 15+ in high school. I went to Allen, the 1st high school on a Nike commercial and I played every skill position offensively. I couldn’t get hurt or miss any games so every single concussion I had in high school was kept between the trainer, head coach, and me. It’s not worth it dude. The self delete thoughts are exhausting and terrifying. Most days it feel like when, not if. So like the fellow said please protect your brain. I’ve never told anyone all of this so I’m sorry for it being so long.
This is why I really wish K-12 didn't do tackle football. It makes no sense to have kids up to high school age getting permanent brain damage for a sport they're only doing for a few years as a child.
I have had a decline due to my relationship with alcohol and sleep, from an extremely high achiever academically and professionally in my youth and 20s to laying on my sofa most days unable to function in my 30s, whether I drink or not. I regret it, protect your minds kids.
As in too little or no sleep?
I wish you the best possible recovery 🙏❤️
microdose psilocybin.
@Robertsmith-un5cu psychedelics can ruin your serotonin receptors leading in long term sleep paralysis. If you don't sleep enough your health is in the trash
@@Robertsmith-un5cu Shut up
I took care of a professional fighter in a nursing home once. He was confined to a wheelchair, had aphasia, had sudden outbursts of anger and was inappropriate with women. He was only in his 60s. His wife visited nearly everyday to help us take care of him. There were photos and newspaper clippings of his achievements on the wall. I could tell he was loved dearly, but the sport had significantly changed his body, his mind, his life. People need to see this before they choose to enter the arena
"inappropriate with women" that's just old men in general.
Im not even old
@@ThatOne-s6gwhereas all ages of women are inappropriate with men and people ignore it
@@forwardmoving8252☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
@@forwardmoving8252In comparison to men it's not even close. Men are vastly more likely to be inappropriate to women than the reverse.
Seeing a video of a young, sharp and handsome boxer get hit in the back of head a few too many times in a fight and basically become permanently disabled was enough to convince me to never to contact sports - *ever*.
Prichard Colon 🇵🇷...?
@@danisb6192 that’s right, I forgot the name but he’s the one. Really sad situation :(
@@the_sad_wallet1553 That's why back of the head punches are illegal as fuck
Contract sports can be made a lot safer with regular testing, extended rest periods between full contact fights, points rather than full KO, could even penalise for brutal KO's, instant disciplinary action against dirty fighters, but people wouldn't be half as interested. they don't care that this guy, and many others, lives have been utterly ruined by it, they want the entertainment and part of the entertainment is the risk and thrill of someone actually being killed in the arena. blood sports go back to the beginning of mankind and the population have always loved them, until it happens to their own, then they're upset about it, people generally don't care about anyone outside of their bubble in most situations.
@@obiitom this is true, there are definitely a lot of measures that could be taken to prevent serious injury especially to the head. If the Prichard Colon fight had been stopped after the first or second hit to the back of the head, he may not have ended up in a coma.
Unfortunately, many combat sports organizations and organizations for other contact sports don’t do anywhere near enough, for the exact reason you mentioned - stopping matches to prevent traumatic brain injury makes it less exciting and less profitable :/
I boxed for years. Won championships in Scotland.
Im 36 now and I also have issues with memory and speech. Wouldn't recommend anyone going pro with any type of fighting
Make sure you do everything possible to avoid inflammation in all forms. Try to stimulate your brain daily, read topics that are way out of your depth, new languages, these will stimulate new neural pathways and really train your brain to be high functioning to the best of its ability.
Hi there, please I recommend you do some research on the effects of meat/dairy/eggs on your circulatory system if you are eating these foods. The most recent, non meat/dairy/egg industry funded studies show that these foods cause inflammation, heart disease, dementia, cancer etc. There are many industry funded studies that will give you the opposite impression, that you need them. They certainly won't be helping with any of the problems you are experiencing from your injuries. The information is out there and when it came to my health it was an easy change to make, vs carrying on as I was and having to take huge amounts of medication until probably I would need organs removed. No medication for 4 years now. When people ask me if I'd ever go back, the answer is an emphatic no, why would I? There's plenty of tasty, healthy food I can still eat and I never want to be on pharma's hook again. Sorry for putting my oar in unsolicited, maybe I piss off 100 people but if I help one person it's worth it
@@chrishayes5755 yes I agree! it works for me, I have to keep my brain excercised. If i dont i literally cant even remember how to spell or even names
CAP
I've fought a lot as well and I occasionally just black out large portions of my days
God bless em and thanks to them for their vitality and vigor. Inspirational yet tragic...
Nam Pham was one of my favorite fighters. His fights with Garcia are legendary. My heart hurts for him so much
Jesus that was him? I remember him from TUF. Super sad to see. Reminds me of all the hate that GSP used to get for fighting safe. I think he's the only Champ who rode off into the sunset on a high note.
@@doomrider7khabib: "I take dees talking like you right nao very seerius. He rode to sunset? What about me? I make sunset tap like cheeken."
@@traex8325khabib did the easy route by fighting padded and old ass out of prime fighters compared to GSP😂
@doomrider7 GSP came to interviews claiming that he sometimes doesn't know where he is and how he got there. He blamed it on aliens. This was even before his last fight with Michael Bisping.
GSP is likely the most intelligent mma fighter of all time a complete professional, but he too is likely suffering from neurodegeneration.
@@nicgur_6981you’re on drugs if you believe that.
Neither one had easy runs. Both fought top contenders while they were champions.
Growing up, I suffered from severe physical child abuse. Growing up through school, I always got made fun of for not annunciating my words. To this day, I get accused of being messed up, drunk, or something. It’s extremely aggravating, especially because the whole reason I’m like this is because a child [me] was being physically abused. My collarbone was fractured, my neck curves the complete opposite direction… from shaken baby syndrome, my spine looks like I have scoliosis when you x-ray it.
I love who I am, and appreciate the things I’ve been through… now, because it made me who I am. I’m extremely loving and understanding, because you never truly know how much, someone is going through.
The abuse over the years gave me an autoimmune disease also, from being stuck in fight or flight for years.
I wish more people would speak out about head injuries and consequences. It’s horribly affected my life.
And everyone thinks it’s excuses, don’t believe me, or just simply don’t care and have something to talk crap about.
I would never support any sport where hard blows are taken to the body, because of my experiences.
It’s much more harmful than people realize.
I sympathize with you. I read the whole thing; and I still respect you as a person, as we all should. I'm sorry life gave you challenges early on, but I hope your gift is that you have kindness that others will never know. Blessings with you always my friend, I will be rooting you on; always.
Bless you
I hear you and I see you. Some similarity in my life and I resonate with how you've grown through what you went through. I feel the same. You need somatic therapy, look into it!
@@modernmovement4813 hugs to you too. Had massive injuries from 10yo to 15yo.
Breakdown at 16yo. My brain suddenly slowed down on learning.. Lots of nasty stuff happening to my body at 30's..
Peace and love to you.
My grandfather used to box in Pakistan before he relocated to UK. He had Parkinson's my whole childhood and passed from complications when I was 15 ish. It was hard. He went from "episodes" and being very very active, to not being able to open a water bottle and he would miss when he tried to bite an apple or plum. The last time I saw him in the hospital bed, I was standing over him. He was looking up and smiling when he was told I was there. But he was rambling incoherently and he couldn't see me. I knew he was gone. He died that night at 3AM. I love you grandad, I still try to be "good girl" and I always remember your asian blessing on my shoulder. I miss it. I miss you xxx
😢
I'm sorry for your loss. Muhammad Ali had Parkinson's too. It's either that or some kind of brain damage for boxers, wrestlers, MMA & some other contact sports. 😢
My condolences 😔🙏
@@kitty_s23456we do not not know if Muhammad Ali, the egyptian slave merchant magnate and governor of egypt, had parkinsons. Some boxer from the people he enslaved, who named himself after Ali, did get parkinsons
I'm sure he wasn't gone entirely... just his brain not working properly. But consciousness is not rooted in the body. Sorry to hear, tragic story
That's Nam Phan. Damn, never knew he ended up that way. Hopeful there's room to still improve, one way or another.
I love Nam, he is genuinely a sweet dude and it so heartbreaking to see him in this state 😢
Me too. I thought he was one of the more chill dudes on The Ultimate Fighter
Thought it was Bobby Lee's younger brother Steebee weebee 💀
@@MrSeanman30......not here homie! Lmao! 😂
dude that made me feel bad he did have alotta wars
The thumbnail had me looking at the doctor like, "yeah he's got a bad case of CTE"
The doctor has a really bad case of "I went to a tanning bed way too much in the 3 days prior to this video, knowing I'd be on a video. Now I'm sunburnt everywhere but the eyeshades I wore to the tanning beds." 😂
Seriously, his face is all red except for an outline around the eyes/eyebrows
😂😂😂😂
@@jonslg240ong that is so crazy i cant even wow 2 crazy bro wow
That’s why doing boxing and fighting is for brain dead people . Lose your proper brain function all to try to be the best person at fighting and hurting other people. You get nothing out of it. What a joke of a profession or passion to have. You’re fixated on hurting people. I can understand learning some for self defense which you’d probably never have to use. But this is ridiculous to do to yourself. What does it profit a man to gain the whole world but lose his soul ? And they don’t even gain near the world , mma fighters are poorly paid. Could have worked a real man’s job and made as much or more without destroying your brain. Maybe they are brain dead already before even sustaining the injuries because you’d have to be to somehow think it’s a good idea to constantly be hit in the head by fists, elbows, shins, and most devastatingly knees.
In 2024, Heather Hardy had to retire from boxing because she had taken so many hits to the Head in her career, which was defined by a fan friendly, high offense fighting style. She wasn't very skilled at defense. She's 42 years old and can't remember stuff and can't ride a bike safely because her balance is off and isn't a really bad shape right now and is broke too. She never made any money from the sport
lmao
infighting is great and all but you gotta be good at not taking 9000 headshots
@@atroposV Heather's problem was she was a victim of her own success. Instead of being classy at the weigh-ins like Amanda Serrano or Clarissa Shields, Heather decided to s*** it up by having outfits that showed her nipples or teeny weeny bikinis,. I know that promoters liked it, but I don't think fans and sponsors took her seriously .
@@avtist5639very funny 🤡
I am in tears 💔 I will never enjoy MMA after seeing this...praying for you always young man 🙏🏽
I trained the majority of my life in martial arts and MMA to chase the dream one day. In HS I started getting concussions, and it became a lingering problem that ultimately prevented my fight career from ever getting started. I even lost 60 pounds to transform myself, I was all in. I developed more concussion issues and cervical stenosis at 21. My doctors and parents both discouraged me from fighting, it felt like I wasted arguably thousands of hours in the gym/in the basement grinding since I was a kid. I felt like a waste potential. Until I met someone who had become “Punch Drunk”, then I realized every “setback” was actually saving me from a worse fate. God is good.
The way you worded your story, sounds punch drunk
@@Hello.NateAdams Your comma in the middle of an independent clause is retarded; however, no punching was involved.
@@Hello.NateAdams🤨 huh its not
Its actually well writen 😂
You don’t sound punch drunk you sound like the opposite, a smart man.
In 2023 the UFC made $1.3 billion in revenue. The average ufc fighter makes between $10,000- $30,000 per fight. On average a fighter has between two to four fights per year.
These guys literally destroy their body's & brains making the ufc billions of dollars but make around minimum wage & still Dana White refuses to raise the minimum fighter wage. It's disgusting.
So you're saying, on the low end, they make what they pay entry-level cashiers at Wal-Mart?! Wooow. 😲 and if they make $30k and do 4 (the maximum) amount of fights, they make what the manager makes?!
@Janellabelle Egg-Zackly! Alot of them have to go out & work regular jobs which takes away from time they would normally be using to train.
Tbh, even if they made millions…it’s not worth if you are a vegetable in your 20s and 30s😞
They still signed up for it knowing this. Not saying greed is right but we all have choices in America still
@mumbles215 Other sports athletes get 40 to 50 percent of the revenue.
When UFC went public and had to disclose revenue. They paid them 6 percent.
We signed up for UFC hoping one day dudes didn't have to do what we did in the future. Like football or basketball and baseball.
Bro an Indian reservation paid me more to fight for them than the UFC did.
I was homeless from 14 to my mid 20's and got jumped a lot. I think a lot of those beatings left a mark, but during one when I was 16 they kicked me repeatedly with very durable boots straight to the face 3-4 of them, working their anger out on my brain. Think they got me in the head a lot, all I remember is someone trying to help me as I was on my hands and knees, river of blood coming out of my face. I've never been the same. Would recommend the boots though.
Be careful is all I mean, you can lose a lot. Forever. Be you, but be safe
So sorry u had to go thru that! ❤🙏🤗
What the boots called
Glad you’re still here.
I hate this world sometimes. I'm so sorry that happened to you brother.
He is talking out of experience and was obviously a kid getting to alot of trouble like myself. I hope it wasnt bullying and just beef
Thank you for your insight, even though this was a short it was still very informative and emotional
🙏😭This is utterly heartbreaking. There is no denying the damage. 🙏😭
Never understood why all these people try to fight. Definitely not worth the brain or physical injury.
@@mementomori29231 - 😭🙏 I agree with you.
As a mom of a 23 yo heavy weight mma fighter son, this absolutely breaks my heart 😢💔 I'm sending my son this clip.. I'm always a nerveus reck when he has a fight. God bless this guy and all fighters and people who have had injuries to their head and brain due to ex abuse and attackes etc! 🙏❤
@@LovingAtlanta
It’s utterly stupid. People for hundreds of years have recognized that fighters often lose their mental faculties. For decades now we have clear medical evidence that brain damage occurs with repeated head injuries. But thanks to all the incredible money being made from promoting wrestling, football, rugby, boxing, mma, and all the macho bs glory that the “athletes” receive, it doesn’t stop.
@@mementomori29231 - 🙏😭 I think the industry glorifies it. I didn’t know it was that damaging. I’m wondering if other people / the fighters in training, know exactly how damaging it is. They all need to see this quick video.😭
Dude I'm about to tear up seeing Nam like this I didn't know it got so bad.
I used to follow him too 😢
Bro I remember watching his fights in ufc back when I started watching mma. This hurts man, absolutely heartbreaking 😢
Support lawsuits against ufc if u want fighters to not fight for bum pay
They don't want to show you the price, so you won't stop supporting this modern day human sacrifice.
He was on the ultimate fighter too right? I remember him as having a ton of charisma and you almost had to be in his corner. Didn't know this had happened to him. Horrible
This is why I choose the wizard class. You get smarter and stronger with age, instead of the other way around.
but intelligence decreases with age, at least fluid intelligence. Wisdom is what CAN increase if you're paying attention and learning from experiences, so you should be a sorcerer, not a wizard.
I heard you get gifted a staff if you make it to age 30 with your virginity intact
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 all of this
Be a bard/druid. Fun at parties, plus goodberries to share with everyone.
@@AnoNymous-gn6tlhow dare you equate a druid to those singing drunkards
A sport where you constantly get punched in the head might lead to brain damage. Who could've thought.
Thank you for your work! I manage a clubhouse for brain injury survivors and I love when I see others talking about it to bring awareness.
I was never a pro fighter or a pro football player. But between the football and fighting all the time in my youth ive had more than 17 concussions. I have neurological damage to the point anytime im over stressed or my blood pressure gets too high i can fallout n lose consciousness. Take care of urselves.
There is hope in healing your brain. Please look up The End of Alzheimer's, by Dr. Dale Bredesen.
17 concussions.....
I'm the same as you, late Gen X'er before everyone wore helmets and had a ton of concussions on bikes and skateboards. I can't really blame myself for the fights I got into, they were more attacks as I was a small guy and looked like a good victim I guess. Now I just had a brutal motorcycle accident which shattered my skull which I definitely did not need. Amazing I survived or am coherent at all, but the question I keep wondering is for how long? Total life changer. Used to box with most spars agreeing to max at medium, that's all over now. Anyway I guess it is what it is and we shouldn't worry. If we turn into Jerry Quarry being miserable our last few sober days won't help anything.
God bless Nam what a guy defently doesn't deserve this for such a kind soul
You don't know him. He could be anything in real life
Actually, if you let people beat you in the head for a living, you DO deserve brain damage. This guy made payments on it for years, and now he owns it. It's kinda like the American dream ....except with brain injury, instead of home ownership.
As someone who use to punch themselves in the head as a form or self harm. My mouth dropped and cried one night realizing how I’m losing my speech and even dialect more everyday. I start getting mad at things that
I shouldn’t stress over and it’s hard to think straight and sleep. I still feel brusies or soft areas on my head where I would wail on myself and now after regretting it all I’m just afraid I won’t wake up or I’ll wake up not knowing who I am
I had the pleasure of interviewing Nam on a couple of occasions, and this absolutely heartbreaking. He was such a fun, exciting and hilarious guy.
MMA had nothing to do with this.
@@rars0n?!!!???!
@@rars0n if you say something like this, then it usually stands to reason that you would follow it up with what it is you think caused this deterioration in his mental presence.
That’s why doing boxing and fighting is for brain dead people . Lose your proper brain function all to try to be the best person at fighting and hurting other people. You get nothing out of it. What a joke of a profession or passion to have. You’re fixated on hurting people. I can understand learning some for self defense which you’d probably never have to use. But this is ridiculous to do to yourself. What does it profit a man to gain the whole world but lose his soul ? And they don’t even gain near the world , mma fighters are poorly paid. Could have worked a real man’s job and made as much or more without destroying your brain. Maybe they are brain dead already before even sustaining the injuries because you’d have to be to somehow think it’s a good idea to constantly be hit in the head by fists, elbows, shins, and most devastatingly knees.
@@significantgumption No it doesn't, I have no idea what caused this. But such mental impairment is not at all typical in MMA fighters.
i really appreciate the awareness surrounding brain damage, and to the people who take that risk, i’ve been boxing for years but only participate in playful sparring, the first time I sparred a had such a pounding headache for the next week I knew something wasn’t right
So people are not aware that repeatedly getting punched in the face is not healthy ?
@@jb-kg3vc not as much as you think, even now there are people who deny, muhammad ali himself was convinced his parkinsons was not a result of his career, the term ‘punch drunk’ has only been around since 20th century
@@jb-kg3vcno I think they're aware, but just like we're aware of the potential risk of slipping in the shower and falling, possibly getting into a car accident when we drive, choking when we eat our food or drink water, we all definitely face risks in every decision that we make in our life pretty much, sometimes we think about the risk and sometimes you don't.
With elective things, sometimes the joy or the fulfillment that the choice that we make might bring after engaging and that choice far outweighs any risks that are associated.
@jb-kg3vc people know the risks but most might have a side effect from a fight or fights especially if they werent knocked out or forced to go to the hospital after a fight and think to themselves "ehh let me try to sleep it off and rest for a few days" and then they never follow up with a doctor until its to late my old friend and I used to think that same way until he died from a brain injury at the age of 28 I never got back into it I love my children to much and we weren't even fighting on a professional level
@@jb-kg3vc well consider that Muhammad Ali after developing Parkinson’s believed it wasn’t as a result of his career, despite him being one of the boxers who withstood the most punishment in the ring, consider that being ‘punch drunk’ was only a concept since the 20th century, another fact alot of people are unaware of is that even footballer get brain damage from headering the ball
I agree definitely a heartbreaking story... Look how young he is.
So sad to see. Scary too cause the football and concussions just in life I’ve suffered and at 41 it’s seems like my memory just gets worse and worse each day that passes and it scares the shit outta me to think what I’ll be in 10-20 years. Will I remember my family? Will I recognize my child? May seem dramatic to some but when you live it, it’s kinda scary. I’ve been through some crazy shit in my life that has made me fairly tough but just the thought of losing my brain is terrifying and idk what can be done to slow down, stop or heal my mind or if there is some preventative measures that can be taken?
It’s similar in football, too. The body is not meant to take such repeated blows on a daily basis, as they train daily. There’s no protection from our brain against our skull, which severely damages the brain when it’s rattled around. Your brain rattling around from constant knocks to the head & body is no different than shaking baby syndrome
Thank you for raising this point. Human brain doesn't have the same protection against shaking as the woodpecker has. In fact a seat belt-like muscle attached to the back of the tongue goes around the brain to end at the back of the nostrils preventing the brain hitting the skull repeatedly.
True, I keep my sparring frequency at twice per month, at a moderate intensity.
Many sports. Boxing, MMA, motorcycles, car racing.
@@lynseck8739yes! The only thing we have is fluid, which does fuck all to keep it from smashing against our skull. Even head banging can cause serious brain damage. /:
@@harmonyquinn2557 True. And if it weren't at the structural level it has been recently proven that the brain damage could be present at the biochemical level without showing any structural changes in the brain. Which is useful in certain legal issues.
Back in 06 and 07 I was a ring girl for tap out fights and I got to know some of the fighters and to see it happen in real time was wild and very sad.
I actually met the tap out guys at an MMA event in Plymouth, Massachusetts
Would it happen quickly or over time? Like after a bad fight were some guys just never the same?
Ew
@@brandenbran I saw a few guys have one really bad fight and that's where it would go downhill, but others I noticed it over time. I saw a guy literally "lose" his life because he took such a hard blow it put him in a coma. He was so young that particular guy was never the same. I never saw him again but all the dudes I was friends with would tell me about him.
@@michellebastiani6470 I fought in mma and was 4-0 going into a fight to defend my 135lbs title. I was whooping the guy, blood everywhere, beating him up on the feet for 2 rounds. I was so gassed going into the 3rd because I was trying to knock him out instead of just fighting. Beginning of the 3rd, I dip right into a head kick. Shin right to my neck. I was out for a few minutes. I finally wake up and I'm in an arena, with a bunch of people everywhere, my dad, and brother next to my stetcher as the emt are rolling to the ambulance. I finally come to at the hospital. Needed an mri and 2 staples in my head. Was so dizzy and depressed afterwards and started drinking all the time and doing drugs. Went from the best of the best, to the worst of the worst.
Mine is from an abusive ex husband. Thank you for the video. This is domestic violence awareness month I think. I was contacted through my Dr via Stanford University and they wanted to know if they could talk to me so I agreed. Well, long story shirt I agreed to let my brain go there when I pass, so maybe a woman who thinks a man loves her that hits her may leave when she sees that you don't have to play sports or box to get CTE and they will leave. Maybe after I pass I can still make a change. Right now I'm currently working through the VA and doing home health for disabled veterans. ❤
That’s a beautiful gift to the world. Thank you. And sorry you went through that!! N one deserves that!!
Wow, you're a very strong woman. How old are you if you don't mind my asking? Anyway, I couldn't imagine laying a finger on my wife of 24 years. 😢 It's sad that it's often the ones we love and trust that can harm us the worse. You are an amazing person!!
So sorry this happened to you.
@@retrosurfer76 Don't worry, it didn't.
God bless you
I don't think many people talk about this but many people enter martial arts without a desire to improve themselves but of one to destroy themselves. I have been in the headspace before where I don't care about anything and I just go at my opponent without any regard for my being. In reality it stems from a low level of self-harm that came from the depression I was in. Part of the reasoning I was going to the gym was because I hated myself and I wanted to hurt myself. I couldn't bash my head into a wall because that was too far and I couldn't shoot myself because I knew that was stupid. So I went to a gym to get as a way to feel pain, and to let my anger out onto the world. The funny part is that I learned the complete opposite. Going to the gym made me value my life, it made me want to live everyday and I didn't want to hurt anybody. My point is that martial arts can be something that destroys you or improves you. I personally believe that if you are training the right way you can't get CTE and Martial arts will be something beautiful that enters your life.
Now imagine, this is what MMA fighters and boxers go through just for their fans to yell at them, berate them, tell them they're trash, send them death threats, all over losing a fight.
💯
and its been like that since time immemorial. Its all part of the sport
@@codysellers8999 Not sure where you found that misinformation, but being insulted and threatened outside of a professional fighting ring is *not* part of MMA or boxing. Same with football or any other sport. Fans take that *way* too seriously.
No one is making them fight😂😂
@@kels_x1414 So because they're not forced to fight, that means fighters and boxers deserve to be mistreated, right? Asking for a friend.
You see _this_ is why I played badminton as a teenager. I didn’t care if my classmates called me gay for it. What’s the point of high-testosterone-head-slamming if in 5~10 years you can’t even put a sentence together.
My whole family plays badminton 🏸, we're not gay, we're joyous 😂
kinda gay
@@Amira_Phoenix❤
Whoever said that is a loser
This is over exaggerated
My son and husband tried to get me to agree to allow my child to starting boxing in middle school. I have never fought a fiercer fight or drawn a harder line. HELL NO! The son is 25 and thinks telling me he still ended up boxing in garages with his buddies makes a difference in that decision.
No, I did my job as a parent and protected him to the best of my ability. If he ends up with brain damage… it won’t be because I signed him up for it and cheered along the way!
He went from “my” son to “the” son; is there a reason for that?
@@alexthegoat4207none at all
Well said, responsible parent. His lack of respect and wisdom towards your authority as a parent is clearly his loss. Pray he sees that honouring you as his parent is actually honouring himself too.
There's nothing wrong with boxing. Just make it short term. Stop being a pussy. If I was your child I would hate you. When I was fighting I make sure I give up as soon as I get seriously injured
@@oliviastar3812 ok boomer.. questioning your parents isnt disrespectful.. its ,literally part of growing up.. and boxing as a hobby and competing arent the same in the slightest..and they way she talks about her son is weird
Bless all these fighters
Wow! I can’t believe that this is Nam. He was scary good back in the day! I mean he was on a different level.
Bro, he won like 2 or 3 fights in total. That is not what I consider next level .......
Lol no
@@yeah_right88honestly tho, just to be allowed to compete in there is being top level.
Wait, that IS Nam ?
Shit that's nam that was on ultimate fighter ?? This is hard to watch.
Its primarily the ones who hard spar and take real shots to the head before the actual fight. He even says in his position he still trains the same way as when he was pro. There a whole generation of fighters who believe this way makes you stronger. I come from that world and not even 10 years ago people will call you weak for not taking repeating shots to the head. I always knew that couldn't be good and avoided hard sparing at all costs.
As said by GSP, "I know many people whose career ended in training".
I mean look at the Thai's, they spar super light, and when they go hard it's only to the body. I think play sparring is the best way to go, and don't use headgear, people say it's safer, it's not. Headgear makes people throw shots way harder, and you can't see crap out of them. Get hit by a shot you didn't see at the speed of light? Instantly knocked out, and there's CTE.
The Thais have the best striking too. Honestly, I think hard sparring makes you a worse fighter.
Calling someone weak for protecting your mental faculties reeks of insecurity (which is weak, compared to standing up for what is reasonable!)
This is why I decided to never compete and just train for fun. We don't do any hard sparring at the gym for this reason. I mean sometimes guys with the beef will go a little harder at each other but that's rare. You have one brain, protected at all costs. Nothing is worth losing your mind
Mike Tyson, Oscar de la Hoya, Manny Pacquiao, Julio Cesar Chavez, George Foreman, Miguel Canto, Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, many boxers fought way too much and they are 100% healthy.
I was a hockey goalie for ten years up until I quit when I was 18. I'm glad I did. I basically had a concussion every week from headshots and people crashing into me.
My dad used to always tell me about how many fighters went punch drunk
Its absolutely heartbreaking
Can we stop people fighting for money please?
😔
@@ronisy7063 The spice must flow.
@@lilelo208 not if I buy it and not if I sell it. Washed my hands off. Said it here first. I want better for all the male children in the world than for them or anyone else to think this is the way it has to go.
@@ronisy7063 Those who think that are not the Monolith, especially when those with more power say "The splice must flow." It's not something I agree with, but we must all face reality before we can change it.
12 years and lord knows how much physical damage he endured. Heartbreaking
They are not slaves or gladiators forced to do it...
Exactly! They choose to do it, don't victimize without a reason.
@@uruuruisyet choosing to do something without knowing the consequences is different than doing it with understanding.
For instance, we wouldn’t eat from lead-containing ceramic plates and bowls now, yet we do eat from plastic. Colon cancer in young people is skyrocketing now, yet many people haven’t even heard of the connection yet. Same with MMA (and really every contact aport) and brain injuries/disorders. Muhammad Ali and Brett Farve with Parkinson’s, Jim McMahon (quarterback of the 1987 Bears) with speech difficulties like this guy), they didn’t know this could be the outcome
@@zolevokpk but were they informed of the affects? let’s not forget so many people are making money off of these men…
@@luluisfunny Constant head trauma can obviously lead to long term health problems. It's obvious.
The sport needs to pay these guys properly.
Did you see that dude who got his jaw caved in.
I said the same thing after
We should all learn from this.
We should all share this.
Preventing suffering in this way is life-saving. Glory, fame, and money aren't worth your health and happiness.
Those things go away, but the suffering stays .
My chiropractor made me quit. At that time, I was on the path to going pro. I had a bad auto accident, and it was too risky for me to do any boxing and mma matches. I had put in so much into it. I did not want to quit. My bf, who was a doctor, agreed with him.
I am now thankful that I listened to them both. ♥️
This reminds of Rogan and his explanation as to why he didn't continue to do kickboxing. No one was using headgear at the time and he came across people who had permanent brain damage and decided to find a new career. He did standup, was on a few TV shows and now has a very successful podcast.
And he also has permanent brain damage.
@asteroidrules eh. Better than being some furry weirdo.
Oh cool what's his podcast called? I might check the lil fella out.
Unfortunately for Joe it was too late.
oh cool thanks for telling us who joe rogan is
They need to show this video to all new members of all martial arts gyms this is so heartbreaking nobody should do this
I recently got a few bad hits to the head and experienced a whole lot of symptoms that i was able to identify thanks to this type of content and it made me realise how important it is to talk about it because if you aren’t educated you can easily dismiss it and before you know it you talk funny and you have a short temper
2 years ago, Jan Stenerud and Willie Lanier came and spoke to my college football team. Jan being a kicker, ended up being fine and doesnt suffer from his playing days. Willie Lanier on the other hand, was definitely suffering from mental decline. He was very open talking about cognitive decline, but it was very eye opening, and honestly sad. He preached to us exclusively about prioritizing our health, and thinking about the long term for our brains rather than anything football, and you could tell he was passionate, and has a different view of football after what has happened to him.
Damn thumbnail suggests it is the doctor who has brain damage. 😮😂
Exactly!! I thought he was gonna start switching mid sentence but he only looks weird.
Found the comment I was looking for 👍😂
They did that on purpose
I think the doctor was trying to show how it looks to have brain degradation.
@@sonalikumar4667 yes, we know.
Please keep up the good work Dr Alan Tudyk
This is sad af. The great Ali suffered from his injuries during his career too..
Mike Tyson too
@@Ame865lol
@@dizzy2xxlol? I don't get it. Actually seems like it did the opposite he's a way better more thoughtful person than he used to be
@@Ame865 Why you say Tyson? Really don't think you know what you're talking about or anything about Tyson!!! I'm sure he had some damage but Nothing like alot of MMA fughter boxers too. Tyson didn't get hit near as much as most other til his last few fights at the end of his career! He was a "peak a boo" boxer moved fast an hit hard ending alot of his fights earlier in his career fast before he really got hit.. He would get up close cus he's short with short reach. His fighting style took full advantage of that closing the distance ducking dodging hits get his hits in an pop back out! Watch his fights in first half of his career! He moved fast for how big he is!!!
@@1821mustangok geez yelling at the guy, lol !!!!!!!! 😝
Training in fighting sports are moving away from sparring for this reason. Hope it helps these athletes to reduce this terrible disease
yea watch all the ones that spar win all the matches against people that don’t spar
Disease? It's injury not disease
@@cassiluap7282it's usually degenerative so it becomes a disease
Its a bot@@cassiluap7282
dis·ease diz-ˈēz. : an abnormal bodily condition of a living plant or animal that interferes with functioning and can usually be recognized by signs and symptoms : illness. diseased
Who would have thought that getting punched in the head over and over again would cause damage?
😂😂😂
But but all that matters is clout!!
Young people have a harder time than older people, through no fault of their own, assessing risk and recognizing that actions have consequences. They lack the experience and brain development, which sometimes making the honor of being a winner in fighting more prominent in their minds than the potential brain damage they would incur. It doesn't help that there are ideas of violence and physical toughness so tied up in society's definition of what it is to "be a man", which boys get pressured into engaging in, depending on their upbringing. It's a tragic situation, and I feel for these people who experience such cognitive decline.
No, they should take responsibility for being too cowardly to not care about being called a pussy and bothering too much about other people's perception of them. Macho mentality should be over once you leave school.
@@zoyadulzura7490 Ugh. Exactly where & when are males pressured to engage in "physical violence" in order to be a man, or prove their manhood? Or are you just regurgitating propaganda, similar to people's "brains aren't fully developed until they're 26". As if we're not responsible for our decisions until that point. It's not true.
shouldn't what you learned at school, similar go hLol. I've never seen that. Thank you.
I'm 39 years old and I played Peewee football up until my first year in college. I now forget literally everything. I have a problem holding a thought sometimes, unwarranted aggression, mood swings and I know there isn't anything I can do about it 😔. Parents don't let your kid play contact sports especially the sports that can cause this. If the information that was out back in the 90's, I wouldn't have ever played. I know this video is mma based but these issues happen within a handful of sports
Man, it's heartbreaking to see these young warriors so damaged.
Let me tell you, it’s one of the worst ailments to have next to cancer. It alienates you from everyone you love. You don’t know how to control yourself often. Fits of rage, dementia , trouble swallowing while eating..practically impossible to date. 33 years old and I’ve been told I’ll be lucky if I can work another few years. I’ll be a lonely guy very young in a home for people with Alzheimer’s.
My husband has brain damage. He had to retire at 45, will probably never drive again, has seizures, will never speak normally, was robbed of his amazing personality, sleeps 15 hrs a day, and is a fraction of the husband and father he used to be,. My husband has brain cancer. These fighters can prevent the damage to their brains. I can’t imagine willingly doing this to yourself.
Hope that you both trusted Jesus Christ as saviour. Christ the enternal so'n of god died for our sins(whole world) in the Cross and Rose from the dead in the third das according to the Scripturee(His the jewish Messias,god in flesh) for our justification(judically term - delarre Not guilty) god doesnt want any human to send eternity in hell, Out of Love,He punished His son, WHO paid for us. And If you Believe this Gospel Message(Accept IT - gods so'n died for all u sins) you get by the faith U Put in Christ as saviour saved. The Moment,u believed in the so'n of god are you a child of god and justfied(Just as If u never sinned - rightous)
@@MG-hg1sqwhy do you people insist on peddling religion to someone suffering like this. It's incredibly disrespectful.
@@evildeebee because it could hit everyone, any day to die. MOst important, to claimed christ by trust as saviour, he(god in flesh) paid it all for the world and died for our sins & rose from the dead for our justfication. Our part is it, to believe the good news of god son who paid it allfor us on the cross
@@MG-hg1sq what the hell are you even going on about? You people are like a broken record. I've heard it a million times and don't give a fuck lol.
@@MG-hg1sqnot everyone follows your fake religion. Other people follow other fake religions. Be more considerate and just stop spreading your mental disorder
I got into MMA but never competed, just trained a bit and watched fights. I stopped when I started med school. First of all, I couldn't really show up to placement all bruised or with a split lip. It's the brain damage though that worried me most.
That's good you got your training in, that's all that matters. you can handle yourself and protect your family.
If you ever wanna get back into it, just find a good gym that play spars and doesn't believe in headgear. I know that second part seems strange but I can elaborate if need be.
@@joshuadejong7115 Would you please elaborate?
@FlamingCockatiel So most people believe that pads save your brain from trauma, but rugby has less concussions than football by far, due to less padding. You just can't hit as hard without injuring something, so there needs to be control. MMA has a problem where headgear causes people to hit way harder than necessary (Sometimes ego, mostly inexperience). This causes way more concussions. Some gyms don't allow headgear because they don't want people to try to take each other's heads off, something they wouldn't do without gear. Also, headgear gets in the way of vision, and the punch you don't see coming is usually the one that knocks you out.
Play sparring to the head, hard shots to the body. I mean, realistically, would you really take a baseball bat to the head, even if someone told you you could wear a helmet? That's essentially what a full powered head kick is the equivalent of.
And make no mistake MMA/boxing gloves aren't saving fighters brains, it's saving their hands.
@@joshuadejong7115 Thank you for the reply. It makes more sense now, especially the comparison with the baseball bat. I've never really seen the appeal of hard blows to the head and am glad to have more reason not to watch it.
Shout out to the parents who said "No"
Bigger shout out to parents that had nuance and allowed their kids to do the sport they liked in a responsible way
MMA, being a relatively young sport, it was only a matter of time. I boxed as a youngster. I had six competition fights. I'd watch the older boxers, in a tournament, take some severe beatings, including knockouts. I transitioned to athletics. MMA is basically bare knuckle fighting. As the sport progresses, expect more stories like this one.
I'm from a boxing background personally, but as a fan more of an mma guy. We've seen this before. Most of the worst cases haven't been the highest level guys, they often get into some time of boxing or kick boxing when they lose their mma contracts. The thing with UFC is with most guys they'll kick them out if they take a lot of damage, so its hard to know if the UFC did most of the damage or what they moved to.
The problem is that it is not bare knuckle. If it was you would break your hand not your mind.
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The first part of the video he has cauliflower ear. Breaks my heart to see the guy’s brain injury😢.
His messed up ears should have warned him early on that maybe other things in the vicinity was also taking damage.
@@bojohannesen4352 no one forced people to fight...... 🤷🏼♀️ their own fault if they get damaged
@@Latvijas_AmēlijaDo you know this?
I have never heard of cauliflower ear before. Is it only a result of being hit in the ear?
@@IamStillrichit can come from repeated blunt force trauma to the ear, or also from practicing close combat fighting styles like brazilian jiu jitsu. there will be constant rubbing of your ears against the ground, mat, or another person when grappling which causes the fluid build up
It's painful and heartshattering😮 Respect for life, All these guys suffering and still answering the punchkey questions gracefully... God Bless You Champ...🙏🏻🙏🏼👌🏼👍🏼🥺😧🙏🏼🙏🏻
Why's it heartbreaking?
@@MastemaJack Do u expect a clarification as Answer, Every student wasn't good at my school day's thou... They we're just said, Don't worry try hard next time. But still some we're shameless to ask, why did I failed I got 29 marks...in 100.
So M.jack try jacking up ur IQ if not emotions, that fighter was suffering, that's the reason for my heartshatter...
@@Kk-logy24 no it's not. CTE was known about before that guy started fighting. They know what they are getting themselves into. Your reply is just a bunch of yapping
To avoid brain damage when fighting one needs to be physically strong. Because regular exercise strengthens muscles, including those in the neck, which can provide better support for the head during impacts.
Physical training enhances coordination and balance, helping individuals avoid or better absorb hits. And good cardiovascular fitness improves blood flow and overall brain health, which can aid in recovery from injuries. Training can sharpen reflexes and reaction times, allowing individuals to respond more effectively in high-pressure situations.
And lastly athletes who train specifically for combat sports learn techniques to minimize the impact of blows, further protecting themselves.
So just workout to be physically strong and work on your defensive to evade punches and reduce taking unnecessary damage. And you'll be fine
Thumbnail had me believe the wrong person got CTE
Deadass
This happened to a Boxer I know from my hometown, he went pro, I think he was training with Oscar de la Olla or he fought him, I’m not sure I was a kid and now it’s sad to hear him talk because he speaks very incoherently.
I think that MMA fighters or any fighter must get evaluated over time with a cognitive test in order to catch this early and prevent it. At least give them the opportunity to retire before it gets worse. This is truly sad to watch which is why I decided early on to walk away because every time after heavy sparring days I would have this brain fog that lasted 3days and that really made me reconsider my career choices because I pride myself in being very smart and at the end I pursued my passion for science. Could of would of should of doesn’t matter anymore at least I have a great career and still have full brain function although I might of lost a ton of brain cells during my years in the fight business
Yeah these head injury sports at least need testing/regulation by government
@@tw8464 our government is very inefficient I say WADA, there should be a limit to prevent shittt like this..
Get this, they all have the opportunity to retire. They all have the opportunity to never get started doing it in the 1st place. Im not aware of one person who has been forced to do it.
@@tw8464 yeah cause government interference always works out great. Since we're on the topic of healthcare lets look at how much good they did interfering there. Pre affordable Healthcare Act, my healthcare was affordable. My co pays were 20/50/200 with 10/20 for perscriptions once "affordable" healthcare got here i no longer have a copay i have a fuck you in your ass it's 250 bucks everytime you go to the doctor 300+ medcheck and 750+ emergency all out of pocket until i meet my 6000 dollar deductible. Thats not even getting into them going around in 2012 arresting doctors for "over prescribing" whatever that unlisted arbitrary number is, all because overdoses were just getting out of hand with all that purdue phara and thier oxycontin (more on that in a sec) poisoning the general public. Problem solved right? Overdosed went way ddoooww oops says here in 10 years they increased over 10 fold from 12,000ish in 2012 to pushing 130,000 in 2022. Who would have guessed the mexicans would have stepped in to meet the giant demand the government created overnight? Well at least they stuck it to purdue pharma for getting us into this mess right? Juuuussssttttt a minute. Who was it that approved oxycontin? Hmmm..... Yeah we need more interference from those guys. They havent done enough damage yet.
@@bradsanders407it is a choice. It’s a different choice when your entire life has been dedicated to this one thing. It makes walking away a lot harder. Yea you have a choice in everything but it’s not always a simple yes no
Years of hard sparring especially in kickboxing and boxing can cause this sort of thing, if soft sparring can be done regularly it’s better than having hard sparring and leave the hard fights for the ring, you only fight a few times a year but sparring is regular it will limit the amount of damage sustained, but please don’t spar hard, take it light and easy if you have a partner who is sparring hard I suggest tell them to take it down a notch & if they don’t listen then stop sparring with them I believe
I was an infantryman back in like 2011. My squad leader had a couple of pro fights under his belt. Had video of 2 of them on youtube and everything.
He gave up fighting because of the NFL CTE controversy. When I say he was smart, he was a very smart man. I scored a 95 on the ASVAB after being out of school for 5 years and was in awe of this man's intelligence. The military has it's own risks obviously, but the fact that he thought MMA was too dangerous and quit spoke to me.
I always thought he was too smart to be wasting his time in the military. And he had his Ranger tab from a previous enlistment as well. He taught me so much when I joined the unit. Where ever he is today, I hope he is doing well and still passing his knowledge on to others.
Very heartbreaking to see. Can only imagine how his parents must be feeling and goung through.😢
Ive been a braniac my entire life, I'm a fiction writer and student of history, religion, philosophy, psychology. Currently recovering from my first concussion, 2 injuries back to back. Its hard, frustrating and emotionally draining, even writing this is giving me a headache. I havent been able to work on my stories in a month. Doctor said it could take up to 4 to heal, cant work on my exams either, was on the last leg. Doing my best to stay inside with sunglasses on and sleep most of the day. And I cant study or discuss my favorite subjects anymore for longer than a few minutes at a time. I am definitely recovering, but its slow and hard on me. My brain has always been my greatest weapon its like a fighter losing use in his arms' dexterity.
I’m so sorry to read that. I pray that you continue to heal and recover. Willing you wellness and peace.
@@MissTeaq thank you sister. Doing my best using prayers and rest.
I'm so sorry. You're going to reach your recovery goals even though it's slow-moving and very difficult. Sending you healing prayers.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@louniece1650 thank you so much sister. 100% appreciated. 🙏🏼
Wishing you a speedy recovery back to your best and even better 🙏🏼 my mom had a TIA a few years ago and was slurring her speech and forgetting words for several months. It was frustrating for her, she couldn't remember how to write letters or sign her signature 😢 but she started improving within a few months and recently was able to travel internationally (alone) to visit her sister ❤️
It genuinely amazes me that people are making this a modern issue like "oh my gosh look at the effects of MMA on the brain."
Gee. I never could've guessed. I wonder if the punches, kicks, knees and elbows that can literally press the restart button on your body's computer (your freaking brain. Ya know, the thing in your head that violently smacks against your hard skull when you get hit in the head) have anything to do with it?
Seriously though. I competed in amateur circuits for a short time out of the gym Matt Riddle comes from (Rat Pack). I saw kids in their early 20s that you'd think were mentally unfit to take care of themselves in there all the time just by how they talked and how slow they were to process things.
I notice myself forgetting things and taking longer to process stuff now, and I don't think it's all just because of age. Not worth it.
Yeah, I mean even back in the day people knew this based on their slang e.g. Punch Drunk, punchy etc...
Sometimes I notice people thinks it’s cool or tough to say they got CTE .. as it seems relatively rare for someone to get noticeable brain damage after a few losses even the worst knockouts people usually bounce back .. unless someone beats you repeatedly after going unconscious it’s not that common as people act I think some fighter just age naturally and whenever they forget something or they act like an idiot it’s CTE but in reality they got other issues just like everyone else
@@dc4lcorkscrewpatdaGIGA I know when I take the ladies out, they can't keep their hands off me, when I tell them I have early dementia, from losing too many fights...
@@Liam-zw1ek don’t phrase it that way say you’re a warrior and don’t elaborate
The fighter in this video is Nam Phan and it's important to note that not only was he known to have gym wars every day, but after 2012 he started doing pro boxing (3-8 record, with 7 of those losses being consecutive) and pro muay thai (1-1-1 record), and boxing has a much higher outcome of CTE than mma does.