Once saved, always saved?

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  • @jojopiper3201
    @jojopiper3201 8 місяців тому +17

    Saved by grace alone through faith alone in christ alone. The moment we believe the gospel found in 1st Corinthians 15 1-4,,we are saved, sealed, sanctified, and justified forever. He did it all . John 3:16

    • @anitabishop1160
      @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому

      And then....?.??

    • @jojopiper3201
      @jojopiper3201 8 місяців тому +2

      @@anitabishop1160 what do you mean, and then?

    • @deancuthbertson7199
      @deancuthbertson7199 8 місяців тому +2

      @@anitabishop1160and then we start the lifelong journey of sanctification 🤔☺️. Not always a fun road

    • @85rockhound
      @85rockhound 8 місяців тому +2

      @@anitabishop1160 We continue in Christ.

    • @johannmeiring4208
      @johannmeiring4208 7 місяців тому

      I'm also asking@@anitabishop1160

  • @markuskinnunen8017
    @markuskinnunen8017 8 місяців тому +4

    Greetings from Finland. I was in a hangover too when I got saved. I also got bad anxiety and was very nervous and then I just cried out to the Lord that I cant take this anymore, please forgive me for my sins and redeem me. After I prayed this prayer I felt like something went through me and all the anxiety went away and peace came instead. I just wept and wept and thanked Jesus. I knew what had happened to me and I knew from that point that I was saved. Its been 7 years now and my life has changed totally. And all the glory and the praise goes to God, our heavenly father Who came for us in Jesus Christ!

  • @FrancisCJtest007
    @FrancisCJtest007 8 місяців тому +6

    Amen Pastor, great explanation with perfect selection of Scripture references, and excellent balance.

  • @thinkforyourselfjohn3163
    @thinkforyourselfjohn3163 8 місяців тому +7

    God Bless you for sharing The Word with us. So much appreciated. Keeping you, your family and your Church members in my prayers. Your teachings are a Blessing.

  • @cathymccall9846
    @cathymccall9846 8 місяців тому +4

    Thank you Pastor. You are so right. When His love is finally and even only in part understood.... it does truly change everything. I can only imagine what the fullness of that love will be like in His presence.

  • @johntaylor5652
    @johntaylor5652 Місяць тому

    You sound like you have the gift of mercy. 😇

  • @deancuthbertson7199
    @deancuthbertson7199 8 місяців тому +4

    Excellent addressing of that question. I might also add in ,that ,God says that HIS gifts and callings are irrevocable,Romans 11:29. Also in 1st Peter, it tells us that “we are kept” by the power of God. God bless you brother.

  • @SharonSmith-e1i
    @SharonSmith-e1i 8 місяців тому +3

    Wonderfully helpful thannkyou!❤from New Zealand 🇳🇿

  • @jennifershipp2599
    @jennifershipp2599 8 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for taking the time to help us navigate our walk with the Lord. ❤😊❤

  • @samlogosz8422
    @samlogosz8422 8 місяців тому +2

    I almost forgot. Thank you for the teachings. I crown you as one of the good fellows. 😁

  • @colleengainey
    @colleengainey 7 місяців тому

    Thank you, Pastor. This was extremely well defined and thought out. I completely agree. I must say, I'm not sure what work my Lord is doing in me. I just want to honor and glorify him! God bless you! 🎺🕊🙏🎵✝️

  • @stephaniecline571
    @stephaniecline571 8 місяців тому +1

    Thank you so much for answering my question. I used my husbands email to ask this question that we've been discussing with some family for a while. What a beautiful and honest answer you gave. Thank you so much for taking the time and laying the foundation of God's grace and plan of salvation. We are truly secure once we believe in Christ and His perfect plan for our salvation. It really is so simple and it is devastating how religion has made it difficult to obtain and to maintain. I pray the Lord can comfort those who question their own salvation and who have been deceived by those who want to place them back under the bondage of the law. We rest in what Jesus did for us and trust Him when He said "it is finished".

    • @CalvaryChapelFranklin
      @CalvaryChapelFranklin  8 місяців тому

      Hey Stephanie, I appreciated the opportunity to address that question - thanks for reaching out. Blessing upon you and Scott

  • @beereaucrat3233
    @beereaucrat3233 8 місяців тому +1

    Yes we must rightly divide the word of truth. Typically this means that we have to make a distinction between the physical nation of Israel and the spiritual body of Christ, which believers are a part of today.

  • @henkv9323
    @henkv9323 8 місяців тому

    God bless you brother. I thank God for teachers like you..

  • @John_Lete
    @John_Lete 8 місяців тому +1

    Great teaching pastor Brian. It is a blessing to be able to come here and listen and at times to re-listen a few times cause truth being spoken sure is yummy food for the soul and so much needed in these times.
    We are living in amazing times where even though we live on opposite sides of the world yet we can come together and be spiritually fed and even have fellowship.
    God bless you and your loved ones and through it all His eyes shine upon you and yours and also all our brothers and sisters in Christ.

  • @THE-END-OF-TIMES
    @THE-END-OF-TIMES 8 місяців тому +2

    Yes and yes.
    I uploaded a clip of Dr Chuck Missler
    teaching on this with Ron Matson. Many
    folks don’t understand how we are saved
    but yet we still wrestle the old man. There
    is absolutely NO WAY our own behaviour
    can determine our position. It was the Lord
    Jesus Christ. All or nothing. He did it all. The
    blood was given. Tetelestai.
    Amen.

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому +4

    Without faith, we can not be saved.

  • @donnar9864
    @donnar9864 8 місяців тому +5

    There's a book by Charles Stanley, I believe its called Once Saved Always Saved, he covers every verse that could make a believer think they can lose their salvation, its a very easy read and makes total sense and it sealed for me that the Lord will never let me go....but my own opinion, I didn't read this in that book, but to me, I feel that if someone believes they can lose their salvation, they are basically saying that what Jesus Christ did on the cross was not good enough, His blood sacrifice was just not good enough...so it makes me think that they truly do not have faith in Him, they are trusting in themselves. This may upset some people but it's the truth. satan will always be in our ear telling us we can lose it...if God would take it back, that would make Him an Indian giver, and that's not the God I worship...His salvation is forever. God bless you all always...

  • @summerstardust2064
    @summerstardust2064 8 місяців тому +4

    John 6
    28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
    29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому

    I agree with the Once Saved Always Saved, the key word there being saved. By faith are we saved!

  • @anitabishop1160
    @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому

    Humility...truth...wisdom..mostly just truth today, my "family"

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому +2

    Yeshua knows the heart and as the Great Shepherd He knows the voice of His Sheep. Of course we also know the voice of our Great Shepherd.

  • @twospot7Seven
    @twospot7Seven 8 місяців тому +2

    OSAS is the gospel. I cannot do anything to earn my salvation but only believing in Jesus Christ.

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому +3

    Faith is a continuous action.

    • @anitabishop1160
      @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому +1

      Spirit of the Living God...fall fresh on me...

    • @beereaucrat3233
      @beereaucrat3233 8 місяців тому +1

      No, it isn't.

    • @anitabishop1160
      @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому

      @@beereaucrat3233 for real?

    • @beereaucrat3233
      @beereaucrat3233 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@anitabishop1160you don't have to work for your salvation

  • @larriveeman
    @larriveeman 8 місяців тому +2

    1 Tim 4:1 says some will depart from the faith, in order to depart you have to be in the faith

    • @papadavewatson
      @papadavewatson 8 місяців тому

      You came up with one scripture that appears to say the opposite of what many other long passages say in depth and with no doubt to their meaning.

    • @larriveeman
      @larriveeman 8 місяців тому +1

      @@papadavewatsonnope there are many scriptures that say to endure, don’t drift away, remain

    • @Kristen8357
      @Kristen8357 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@larriveemanthis is where the original language comes in very very handy. The word for depart used in 1 Timothy 4:1 is aphistēmi and has several different uses, one meaning to repel, so it could mean people repel the faith and give into doctrines of devil's. Also Jesus does say "All that the Father gave me, I shall lose NONE" hmmm so it doesn't sound like Jesus says anyone loses salvation. Matthew 24 is for the Jews in Daniels 70th week, do you have mountains to flee to? Would you pray it doesn't happen in Sabbath? 🤔🧐 Think about that my friend. Shalom.

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому +2

    How can we abide in Christ without faith? Faith requires a relationship with Christ grounded in the Word of God. Salvation is dependent on this same faith.

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому +1

    Being a Christian in the Last Days is not portrayed as a beach vacation in the scriptures. It is a time of deception, apostasy, and the testing of our faith. We must be sure of our salvation, firmly grounded in the faith as those before us who laid down their lives for the witness and testimony of Christ.

  • @elizabethmitchell2963
    @elizabethmitchell2963 8 місяців тому

    Hi Pastor Brian, just my take/personal experience/struggle…but I don’t think the question is really about “works” or lack of works but rather about sin. Many people today struggle with recreational drinking, smoking, vaping, & drug use like weed. What starts as recreational fun or escapism quickly turns towards addiction as a persons tolerance increases and habits form…rapidly descending into addiction. I believe the real question here is “How much partaking of worldly pleasures can a person do and still be saved?” I’ve certainly come to my own conclusion through Scripture but I would love to hear your perspective/counsel if you could address this in an upcoming video. Thanks so much!

  • @samlogosz8422
    @samlogosz8422 8 місяців тому +2

    My view of God is that he went through great lengths to give salvation to man kind. There was no shortcuts.

  • @cheryllovesjesusinKY
    @cheryllovesjesusinKY 8 місяців тому +2

    I believed Jesus was God and that He came to save me as a child. I didn’t understand the full depravity of sin. Only as a 50 year old did I really understand what Jesus did on the cross. Does it mean that children may not really be saved if they don’t understand the full impact of His work?

    • @TheWatchmansPost3929
      @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому +1

      Why did Yeshua say we should be as little children?

    • @TheWatchmansPost3929
      @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому

      At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
      Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. Mathew 18:1-5.

    • @John_Lete
      @John_Lete 8 місяців тому +1

      The beauty of our Lord Jesus is that He knows us from before we were born thus He knows our heart from the moment we were born until the moment we fall asleep and wait for Paradise being our home or until raptured if never having to fall asleep. When God knows that at some point in our lives we will chose to believe Jesus is Saviour, our Lord works on us from birth and has His embrace over us and will get us to the finished line. Sometimes it becomes clear from birth of His gospel that saves and many times for many of us His children it takes a lifelong work being done on us by our Lord Jesus to get us to the resting place He seeks for us to be in which is in His embrace and all because we finally understand His saving grace gospel, which truly is rest for our soul.
      You were and are in good hands which Jesus kept you from birth in His embrace. Even though you did not understand the sin nature and salvation being by His gift alone until an elder age, it does not mean you were not saved as a child from when you believed Jesus is the Saviour.
      Many folks, even christians end up putting God in a box and try to mold Him by the human view instead of being Spirit led and I do not say this to judge anyone but too many speak from self wisdom instead of Christ led wisdom which really is the only true wisdom. Our own wisdom is as a filthy rag thus it being no wisdom at all.
      Rest assured that Jesus is your Saviour and since your heart believes so, you are in Good Hands and our Lord surely will not lose one of His sons and daughters. Out of most things done in our day in regards to prayers and talking to God, one of the powerful resting tools on our belts is giving thanks to our Father for His grace and finished work on our behalf so that we may have assurance of His promise. The more we are thankful the easier it gets to be at rest in Christ, thus where His Holy Spirit is able to lead us according to His will. Not that we will not fall and stumble any longer cause we will always fall in some way and need His reassurance but to be in a place of knowing our position in Christ, His Spirit is able to lead us that much sooner cause we are not holding Him back by our own manmade thinking. Not that Jesus needs us for Him to be able to do anything cause as you already know, He is God and can do anything He wants but surely He is such a good Father that He patiently works with us that we come on our own to Him and say thank you Father and all glory is truly yours alone.
      Anyhow, this is simply a reminder, and it applies to me too cause this world we live in is full of noises of manmade doctrines that are trying to steer us in circles but thanks be to our Lord Jesus cause when we lack faith He is always faithful to bring us back to Himself. Glory be to our God; Lord Jesus; The Alpha and Omega, now and forevermore. Amen and Amen. Blessings to you my sister in Christ and to your loved ones, in Jesus name.

  • @SoulLoveBase
    @SoulLoveBase 8 місяців тому

    Revelation 3:5 says, “The one who conquers will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels.” I believe my name had been blotted out after I became an atheist. Then when I came back I believe I was given a new name which was added to the book based on a dream and further confirmation I had.

  • @john1349
    @john1349 8 місяців тому +1

    Another big aspect I’m trying to work through has to do with dispensationalism. Some say the passages in Hebrews (for example, also places like Revelation) that sound works based are addressed to, or about the Jews. Those are the passages that make people think you can lose your salvation. And they do seem contrary to Romans etc. And they say primary Christian doctrine is found in Paul’s 13 letters. Is it necessarily that simple? I don’t know.

    • @nanadeborah8717
      @nanadeborah8717 8 місяців тому +2

      It is. The church was a mystery until Jesus revealed it to Paul. It is hinted at in some other passages in the Bible, but even Peter was surprised at the simplicity of the gift of grace. Remember when Jesus said to let the children come to him? Then He told the apostles that inn order to enter the kingdom of heaven, one must be like a little child. Why? Because small children love their parents unconditionally. It is a relationship between father and child. We have to put our trust and faith in God and believe that the work Jesus did on the cross is all we need for salvation. There is a precedent in Genesis when God made the covenant with Abraham. God put Abraham to sleep and He completed the covenant contract alone. That way there is nothing that Abraham or his descendants could do to break the covenant. It's the same with the gift of grace that we receive when we believe. There is nothing we can do to break this bond.

    • @bugsocsollie1694
      @bugsocsollie1694 8 місяців тому +3

      Yes, Paul's doctrine is for the Body of Christ Church for this Dispensation of Grace. Only Paul addressed the Body of Christ Church. Everything else in the new Testament is according to Israel's Doctrine which is based on their 70 weeks prophecy.
      Mixing Israel's doctrine with Paul's doctrine for this Dispensation of Grace, can only lead to confusion.
      Israel's prophecy program is not in play today. It won't be in play again until this Dispensation of Grace is over. Every Denomination out there is taking different bits and pieces of Israel's doctrine and applying it to the Body of Christ Church.
      Lots of people believe Paul's Gospel of Grace (that Christ died for our sins and rose again for our justification), but they don't trust that to save them. So, are they truly saved??? IDK, I'm not going to make that call. I can't make that call.
      There is only one Gospel today that is the power of God unto salvation for anyone that believes it (Romans 1:16). That isn't Israel's Gospel of the Kingdom (that Israel's promised kingdom is finally at hand. Mark 1:15).

    • @john1349
      @john1349 8 місяців тому +1

      I guess that’s why it wasn’t called the book of Gentiles 😊 ( v/s Hebrews..)

    • @nanadeborah8717
      @nanadeborah8717 8 місяців тому

      @@john1349 Actually,Paul did not write the book of Hebrews. Scholars have studied it and grammatically it doesn't match his form of writing. It doesn't hsve an author. Many scholars think the reason for the lack of authorship is because it is a woman who wrote it. However, many pastors disagree and say they believe Paul wrote it even though compositionally and grammatically it doesn't match anything Paul has written.

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому +1

    Look at the Parable of the Sower of the Seed. It was only those in which the Word of God did take root watered by the Holy Spirit that they matured and endured in the faith.

  • @anitabishop1160
    @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому +1

    Scott, you KNOW what the Wird of Gid says to me about my sin! Do I according to First John describe my heart , CONFESSION, Repentance

    • @Brii.Z
      @Brii.Z 8 місяців тому +2

      Tell me, how does a mute, or someone who has their tongue cut out, or someone with say advanced stages of dementia (who can't move or speak) "Confess"?? Think about that one before you say "confession" is required. Does God favor only the able-bodied and able-minded for salvation?

    • @jojopiper3201
      @jojopiper3201 8 місяців тому +1

      Ephesians 2;8-9

    • @anitabishop1160
      @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому

      @@jojopiper3201 you can kill the body but not the soul

    • @jojopiper3201
      @jojopiper3201 8 місяців тому

      @@anitabishop1160 ??

    • @anitabishop1160
      @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому

      The soul of man (go to Spanish Cove and listen/pray) has so much more than the communicative word of mere man!

  • @rogerwalsberg
    @rogerwalsberg 8 місяців тому

    You excercising your God given free will allows you to choose to stay or leave. Free will is what it's all about. If you didn't have the ability to freely choose to love God than God has failed in His attempt to build a family. The whole idea is that only God can build a person who can return true love back in His direction. If it's just a programed love, then there is no glory.

  • @anitabishop1160
    @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому +1

    Sorry caught you late. Attempting to deal with these "folks" in a Godlike manner

  • @GoGoGadgetDoom
    @GoGoGadgetDoom 8 місяців тому +1

    I have something to add.
    Disclosure:
    I /want/ to believe OSAS is true.
    This is something I struggle with, due to life experiences, and a few chapters in Hebrews.
    But I /want/ it to be true.
    I want to share something that recently became highlighted to me, in the hopes that it will help other believers, who also struggle with the idea that God is going to get mad at them, and throw them away.
    In 1 Corinthians 5, it tells of a guy who is fornicating with his stepmother. Ew.
    We are not told if his father is dead, or alive. To me, this would matter, but... we are not told.
    What we /are/ told, is that this boy, who is fornicating all over the place with his stepmom - so much so that word is out, and spreading all the way to wherever Paul is writing from - we are told that he - IS -still saved:
    " It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you,
    and of a kind that is not tolerated even among pagans,
    for a man has his father's wife.
    And you are arrogant!
    Ought you not rather to mourn?
    Let him who has done this be removed from among you.
    For though absent in body, I am present in spirit; and as if present, I have already pronounced judgment on the one who did such a thing.
    When you are assembled in the name of the Lord Jesus and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord."
    Verse 5 makes it very clear that this guy is going to die for what he is doing, but that his "spirit is saved".
    Now, I'm no theologian, but this seems to say that OSAS must be true.
    For those of you who struggle to believe that God won't toss you aside, too - You are not alone.
    Hang tough.
    Look up.
    Hold fast.

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому +1

    The Apostles were with the Lord daily yet did not understand or believe Him. The Apostles needed understanding provided by the Holy Spirit to secure their faith in Christ.

  • @cajunguy3036
    @cajunguy3036 8 місяців тому

    I like how Jack Hayford put it, "Just because I don't believe in once saved always saved, doesn't mean I believe once saved, hardly saved either."

  • @jimwright9615
    @jimwright9615 8 місяців тому +1

    THE GOSPEL MESSAGE
    Jesus in the old testament book of Isaiah 53
    Isaiah predicted that the Servant of the Lord would be disfigured by suffering and rejected by many. 700 years later, Yeshua was struck, spat on, mocked, and blasphemed (Mark 15:17-19, Matthew 27:39-44).
    Isaiah said this person would come from humble beginnings. Yeshua grew up in a city with a poor reputation, Nazareth (Luke 2:39-40,51).
    Isaiah said that the Servant would bear our sins and suffer in our place. 700 years later, Jesus “himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed” (1 Peter 2:24).
    Isaiah predicted that the Servant would heal many. Jesus made the lame walk, the blind see, and the sick healthy all throughout his earthly ministry (Matthew 8:16-17).
    Isaiah said that he would voluntarily take our punishment upon himself. Jesus said: “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep” (John 10:11).
    Jesus did not defend himself before Herod, Pontius Pilate, or the Sanhedrin (Matthew 26:62-64, 27:11-14; Luke 23:9). Just as Isaiah foretold, he remained silent during his suffering.
    Isaiah predicted that the Servant would die, be buried with a rich man, but would not remain dead. Jesus did all of this when he died on a cross (Mark 15:37; John 19:33-34), was buried in the tomb of Joseph of Arimathea (Matthew 27:57-60), and when he rose three days after his death.
    In 1922, the late David Baron, a British Jewish believer in Yeshua who was well-versed in rabbinics, wrote:
    It is beyond even the wildest credulity to believe that the resemblance in every feature and minutest detail between this prophetic portraiture drawn centuries before his [Jesus’] advent and the story of his life, and death, and glorious resurrection as narrated in the gospels, can be mere accident or fortuitous coincidence.
    Can it be true? Ask yourself-if you have the courage to believe it.
    The Greatest Gift Ever Given To The Whole World Eternal Life Through Jesus Christ Our Lord
    The Real Gospel That Saves Your Soul
    The real power is in the gospel according to God, it only has the power to set a person free from the bondage of sin and death.
    Romans 3:23
    for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God
    The gospel is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes (Romans 1:16). It is not based on human traditions, rituals, or works, but on the finished work of Christ on the cross. He died for our sins, was buried, and rose again on the third day, according to the Scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:3-4).
    The gospel reveals God's love for us and his justice. He loves us so much that he sent his only Son to die in our place, to pay the penalty for our sins and to satisfy his wrath against us (John 3:16).
    He is also holy and righteous, and he cannot overlook our rebellion and disobedience. He must judge sin and punish the guilty (Romans 2:5-6).
    The true gospel is not a message of human wisdom, tradition, or religion. It is not based on rituals, ceremonies, or works. It is not a matter of opinion, preference, or feeling. It is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes (Romans 1:16).
    The true gospel is the message of what God has done for us in Christ.
    Jesus Christ, the Son of God, died on the cross for our sins, was buried, and rose again on the third day, according to the Scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:3-4).
    It is the declaration that Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior, who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood (Revelation 1:5).
    Ephesians 2:8-9
    For by grace, you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
    (1 Corinthians 15:3-9). THE GOSPEL THAT SAVES, PAUL SPEAKING
    Moreover, brethren, I declared unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you, which also you have received, and wherein you stand, by which also you are saved if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless you have believed in vain.
    For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, And that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
    Believe in your heart that Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried, and that God raised Jesus from the dead.
    This is trusting with all of your heart that Jesus Christ is who he said he was.

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому +5

    Calvinism is of course contrary to the Truth of the Word of God.

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому +1

    Faith is not a one shot item. Christ is the author and finisher of our faith. Faith comes by the Word of God and our exercising of it that we grow in maturity to abide in Christ.

  • @jamesfields4149
    @jamesfields4149 8 місяців тому

    Brother what's really sad is that after 2024 yrs after the death of Christ
    That there is so many different teachings on this subject
    It's sad that we even have to discuss this subject
    I have studied God's Word ( Laws ) for over 50 yrs
    That's all I do now is study
    The questions about Salvation arise because people have not been taught the truth
    About ( being ) born again
    Those who study ( being ) born again will have all their questions about salvation answered

  • @theburningelement.6447
    @theburningelement.6447 8 місяців тому +2

    We have to live a life of repentance, 1con 6:9 10

    • @Brii.Z
      @Brii.Z 8 місяців тому +2

      Don't be that person who quotes 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10 without quoting verse 11 which immediately wipes out your argument:
      And such were some of you: but ye *ARE* washed, but ye *ARE* sanctified, but ye *ARE* justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
      Remember, God himself repented, several times in fact. So does God sin? Does he need to live a life of "repentance"? Do you know what "repent" means? It means to change your mind. So you are saying someone has to live a life of a changed mind?
      Also, take a look at 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10 again very closely, and I mean VERY closely... Do you see the word "murderers"? So I guess because murderers aren't mentioned in the passage, being a murderer is ok?? Think about it...
      What you see there are Greek tenses of Anabasis and Asyndeton. What you see is the anabasis tense. That means it's providing examples, not a checklist of what one must do or not do. If it was using the Asyndeton text, then that would be the checklist.

    • @theburningelement.6447
      @theburningelement.6447 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Brii.Z ok so you're saying as a Christian, I can live anyway I want and still go to heaven

    • @jojopiper3201
      @jojopiper3201 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@theburningelement.6447 what a calvinist thing to say. Your statement comes from a lack of understanding of what Jesus truly did for you on that cross. No one is saying, go out and sin it up, just because you can. That is exactly what some love to say about those of us who truly believe in christ finished redemptive work on the cross.

    • @theburningelement.6447
      @theburningelement.6447 8 місяців тому

      @@jojopiper3201 no I'm saying once we are saved you can not keep living in willful sin 1st con 6:9 10 I'm not arguing live however you choose the bible says without holiness no man shell see God

    • @jojopiper3201
      @jojopiper3201 8 місяців тому +2

      @@theburningelement.6447 christ is our holiness. Remember Jesus said. I am the way ,the truth and the life. No man comes to the father, but by me. We have no holiness of our own. He is our all in all. He is our holiness. Our acts of "holiness " are as filthy rags to him. Only our faith in him alone is pleasing to God.

  • @theburningelement.6447
    @theburningelement.6447 8 місяців тому +2

    We can always repent, Peter was forgiven for even denying knowing Jesus 3 times

    • @anitabishop1160
      @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому

      What is involved in "repentance"..?

    • @theburningelement.6447
      @theburningelement.6447 8 місяців тому

      @@anitabishop1160 the Greek word means change.

    • @anitabishop1160
      @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому +2

      @theburningelement.6447 thank you. Change. Why is confession and repentance such an untouched topic? Now just why would any eneny want to destract from truth...

    • @anitabishop1160
      @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому

      What a pleasant "cop out".. we can always repent? As thief on the cross? Cross

    • @theburningelement.6447
      @theburningelement.6447 8 місяців тому

      @@anitabishop1160 sadly the problem is, most church's don't touch the topic of Hell, and yet Jesus himself in the book of Matthew, and mark talk's more about hellfire then anything, most people don't actually read the bible for themselves they just believe what there told, and sadly Jesus warns of this you shall know them by there fruits.

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому

    We are justified by faith, not of works. Our salvation is solely dependent on our faith in Christ. How then can we have faith in someone we do not know? Can you place your eternal security in someone you do not know or trust? Our faith is a matter of a relationship with Christ grounded in knowledge of Him we claim to give Lordship of our lives.

  • @larriveeman
    @larriveeman 8 місяців тому

    I don’t see being saved as taking away choice, losing and walking away are two different things

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому

    What does 1 Timothy 4 say?

    • @abuelb
      @abuelb 8 місяців тому

      Some professing to be Christians who are with true believers, are really not in the faith as evident by their apostasy. They were never saved. The truth will manifest itself among false believers.

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому

    Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. Romans 11:20-22.

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому

    I realize some believe in the Fast Food version of our faith or Christianity. Fact is, Christianity differs from all the religions of the world because it is a relationship not a system of works to please a deity.

  • @anitabishop1160
    @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому +1

    Charles Calvin Stanley

  • @johnf.6942
    @johnf.6942 7 місяців тому

    Well it’s Gods eternal plan of salvation not ours. John 3:15+16,36, John 5:24, John 6:47. All contain present tense grammar and the possession is life that never ends. With that sad if I have this “life that never ends”as the scriptures say I can have the second I believe in Christ for it, but I don’t have it say in 6 months from now then it was never eternal life to start with. So if that’s the case is the grammar wrong? Are the readers of the Bible being lied to ? Jesus says in (John 4:10) this life was a gift, and he gives you living water, and that whosever drinks it (John 4:14) they would never thirst again. So if this life is a gift, and we won’t thirst again and it never ends how in the world could I lose it? Paul says we are sealed (Ephesians1:13) into an inheritance, and he calls this life a gift also (Romans 5:15-19, Romans 6:23). Paul says God never revokes gifts (Romans 11:29). So if you got it , it was from him, and you can have it the second you believe him for it and it’s a gift that he never revokes. That should say it all ..

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому +1

    Fast Food Christianity today is the problem, whereby many believe a mere profession is enough. Faith means trust, has anyone ever established a relationship that abides if they do not know them or trust them?

    • @nanadeborah8717
      @nanadeborah8717 8 місяців тому +2

      And who determines who has faith and who is just pretending?

    • @TheWatchmansPost3929
      @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому

      ​@nanadeborah8717 The Fruits of the Spirit will be evident.

    • @nanadeborah8717
      @nanadeborah8717 8 місяців тому

      @@TheWatchmansPost3929 Evident to who?

    • @bugsocsollie1694
      @bugsocsollie1694 8 місяців тому +2

      Are you one of those that Paul is referring to in 1 Corinthians 1:21 ??? Do you think it is foolish to think God will save anyone who just believes preaching ???
      I know that Christ is my only hope for salvation. I think if you would stop looking at yourself in the flesh (carnally minded) and focus more in who you are in Christ (Spiritually minded), you would also trust Christ alone for your salvation.

    • @TheWatchmansPost3929
      @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому

      ​@@nanadeborah8717Evidence of being born again. If you do not exhibit the Fruits of the Spirit, good chance you are deceived in believing you belong to Christ.

  • @peertopeertherapy3720
    @peertopeertherapy3720 8 місяців тому

    I blasphemed god by accident years ago as a child. It's good to know that my blasphemy has set me apart from the religious bigots and hypocrites. The funny thing about blasphemy is that god is willing to forgive anything and everything we do to other people but talk bad about him once, and it is game over for you.

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому

    The evidence of salvation is found in the transformation of a New Creature, crucifying of the old man. The exercising of our faith in sharing the Gospel with the lost, having love for one another and our enemies.

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому

    Are you secure enough or have a strong enough faith to enter the Lion's Den or the Fiery Furnace? That's the question we should be asking ourselves. Will we deny Christ under torture or severe persecution like many of our brothers and sisters face on a daily basis. In the Western world we do not face such testing of faith. That will soon change.

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому +1

    But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. 2 Peter 2:22.

  • @thomasharp3246
    @thomasharp3246 8 місяців тому +6

    I'll say it flat footed no you can't walk away from the faith. When you hear the truth and you believe it in that millisecond you have eternal life. Then there's the rest that maybe believe in a false Jesus, trust in their works, some combination etc that never had eternal life. That's the two groups. The saints and the aints. That's all there is.

    • @KevC1111
      @KevC1111 8 місяців тому +1

      The Bible says you can walk/fall away. Walking away is forfeiting salvation. Losing salvation would be God taking it from you. The latter not being biblical.

    • @ome1399
      @ome1399 8 місяців тому +4

      Don't forget, SEALED with the promise "until" the day of redemption! Thank you Father,in Jesus's name AMEN!

    • @thomasharp3246
      @thomasharp3246 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@@KevC1111no the Bible says eternal life. Eternal life is forever. It can't be lost. You can't give it back. If we believe not, He abideth faithful. Once you believe you're sealed even if you try to not believe later it's impossible to be unsealed by the Holy Spirit. God would have to become a liar and that's impossible.

    • @KevC1111
      @KevC1111 8 місяців тому +1

      @thomasharp3246 Eternal life for those who abide in Him. The verse you quoted does not in any mean we can stop believing and still be saved. That's just absurd and to be honest with you, heresy.
      If we are faithless, He remains faithful: We cannot deny Jesus and we must keep our allegiance to Him. Yet if one does fall away, it doesn’t change who God is - He remains faithful.
      Funny how you skipped over the part the refutes what you said.
      If we deny Him, He also will deny us: The song warns those who deny Jesus that they themselves will be denied. By doctrine or manner of living, one may deny who Jesus is, deny what He has done for us, or deny what He commands us to do.

    • @thomasharp3246
      @thomasharp3246 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@KevC1111you believe in works salvation which is a false gospel. If we have to keep our salvation by allegiance we never had eternal life, it wasn't free, our sins weren't paid for. You might as well bug someone else.

  • @KevC1111
    @KevC1111 8 місяців тому

    Losing and forfeiting are not the same thing. 1 Timothy 4:1 says people will fall away. They forfeit salvation. So walking/falling away is forfeiting salvation. Losing salvation would be God taking it from you. The latter not being biblical.
    People have, do and will walk fall away from the faith. Just because we are born again doesnt mean we lose our free will that God gave us.

    • @Brii.Z
      @Brii.Z 8 місяців тому +2

      That verse does not say forfeit salvation, do not add to the book. Do you think think all Christians have 100% entire faith in the truth of the Bible? I can tell you right now, most you ask about the shape of the earth, will say it's a globe. That is a doctrine of demons, and Christians fall for that BS. That doesn't mean they aren't saved, but that does mean if they don't stay rooted in the word they will get deceived.
      John 10: 28-30 clearly tells you that nobody can be plucked from the father's hand.

    • @KevC1111
      @KevC1111 8 місяців тому

      @Brii.Z Falling away and walking are the exact same thing. Which would be forfeiting salvation. That's just common sense. Yes John 10 say "nobody" can pluck us out of God's hand. That is to say, nobody can cause remove salvation from us. This has nothing to do with an individual walking/falling away. You literally added a meaning to a verse that's not even implied yet accused me of adding something that's already there to begin with.
      Yes the earth is a globe and scripture implies as much.

    • @nanadeborah8717
      @nanadeborah8717 8 місяців тому

      Both of you have issues.

    • @KevC1111
      @KevC1111 8 місяців тому

      @nanadeborah8717 No issues here. Everything I've said is biblical. God bless.

  • @anitabishop1160
    @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому

    Why did Jesus speak on paranles

    • @TheWatchmansPost3929
      @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому

      Read Mathew chapter 13.

    • @anitabishop1160
      @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому

      @@TheWatchmansPost3929 you answer. I have His Word. Do you? Does Matthew give Anita kay permission to live a life of deceit?

    • @TheWatchmansPost3929
      @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому

      ​@anitabishop1160 Do not know Anita, so if she is living a life of deceit perhaps it would be good to repent.

    • @anitabishop1160
      @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому

      @rodneydezarn5763 not one Word gives me the right to deceive you or anyone!

    • @TheWatchmansPost3929
      @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому

      ​@@anitabishop1160Not sure what you are talking about. What do you mean deceived?

  • @thomasharp3246
    @thomasharp3246 8 місяців тому

    Here's a surefire test. Ask someone if they know if they're going to heaven. If the answer is no they obviously don't believe. But if the answer is yes then ask how. If the answer is because Jesus paid for my sins they're a believer. If the answer is anything else they're deceived. Whether it's because I'm a good person, I keep the commandments, etc they're deceived. I believe and live a good life, deceived. If there's an and or but after I believe they're deceived in a works based system. It's one way, the only way, Jesus paid for my sins. No ands, no buts.

  • @TheWatchmansPost3929
    @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому

    For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Hebrews 10:26,27.

    • @bugsocsollie1694
      @bugsocsollie1694 8 місяців тому

      Yup. That is Israel's Doctrine. Completely different than the doctrine for the Body of Christ Church in this Dispensation of Grace.

    • @TheWatchmansPost3929
      @TheWatchmansPost3929 8 місяців тому

      ​@@bugsocsollie1694Wrong, it is for the Church.

    • @michellebrown302
      @michellebrown302 8 місяців тому

      It was to the Hebrews. Theres no longer a sacrifice (burnt offering). They cant go back to that for forgiveness.

    • @bugsocsollie1694
      @bugsocsollie1694 8 місяців тому

      @@TheWatchmansPost3929 Yeah, different church, though. .

  • @anitabishop1160
    @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому

    Of course we can determine to defy the Saviour! Judas did it for...how many shekels?

  • @anitabishop1160
    @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому

    ........ Charles Calvin Stanley had "reasons" ....

  • @anitabishop1160
    @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому

    Did he speak in parables (or fake AI) ? Deception, lies, truth...

  • @aussierob7177
    @aussierob7177 8 місяців тому

    You are not "saved"while you are still living. Salvation is a life long battle to the end of your earthly life. Outside the Church (Body of Christ)there is no salvation. Protestants have lost their salvation by belonging to a man-made Church which is not the Word of God.
    If works are not necessary for salvation, then why does God command us to do the Charitable Works of Mercy ? Also, our Lord warns us we will be separated from him forever if we do not meet the needs of the poor and the little ones who are his brethren. There are many other works we have to do to obtain salvation.
    Christ died so that our sins could be forgiven, and we once more had the right to enter heaven
    Sorry Protestants but Baptism (of water and the Holy Spirit) is necessary for salvation. Baptism erases the stain of original sin and any personal sins committed. After Baptism. all sins committed have to be forgiven and absolved.
    The Church established by Christ on the foundation of the Apostles teaches the fullness of the means of salvation.

    • @gldesmarais9356
      @gldesmarais9356 8 місяців тому +1

      There is no mystical power (efficacy) by being dunked in water. No grace is bestowed. Apart from water baptism's spiritual meaning, you are only getting wet. Being baptized doesn't make someone a believer, anymore than walking into a garage makes someone an automobile. Water baptism is symbolic of the Lord's death, burial, and resurrection (Romans 6:4-5). In water baptism, we are identifying ourselves with our Savior, signifying that we have already believed on Him. Nowhere in the Bible was anyone ever baptized; until AFTER they were saved.

    • @aussierob7177
      @aussierob7177 8 місяців тому

      The Purpose of Baptism has nothing to with being a believer. Did you read my remarks, i don't think so. I said it is by waster AND the Holy Spirit. It is necessary for salvation IT IS IN THE BIBLE. Being Baptised first is the beginning of our Salvation. What Bible are you reading ? If it is a Protestant Bible, then it is full of errors.@@gldesmarais9356

    • @aussierob7177
      @aussierob7177 8 місяців тому

      Baptism is the first step toward salvation. It is in the Bible@@gldesmarais9356

  • @anitabishop1160
    @anitabishop1160 8 місяців тому

    Charles Calvin Stanley