Remember Max was just a kid riding it like a shopping cart not someone trained to actually pilot it. So odds are Max wasn’t a real threat to him, now if Max had basic training in the suit then The Ghoul might’ve dropped him
I could be wrong on this one, but as soon as Maximus becomes the Taitus knight's squire, he mentions that Taitus chose the reinforced coating on his armor and if that affected mobility, it could be that even if the necrotic threw the projectile it wouldn't pierce the armor. A simple detail that helps explain the scenes. :)
I noticed that Coop uses a different ammo, I think the only reason Max is alive (besides the ghoul messing with him) was because he didn’t have that specific ammo on him at the market.
If you go back and watch the Filly fight, he ejects the last of his empty armor piercing rounds, right before Lucy confronts him. We actually see him start to load a different type of ammo into his guns.
@@johnjones_1501I hate how contrived that was, and the idea of Cooper playing with Maximus doesn't make sense considering the squire was literally ragdoll-ing him around, Cooper was not having fun time and should have died given the insane feats of the PA, he only "played" with Maximus when the man got stuck.
my only two beef with this scene is 1) that power armors are equipped with flashlights on their helmet, why none of these paladins turned their flash lights on is a mystery, and 2) before entering the building they have been killing anyone they saw, civilian or NCR soldiers, but when the ghoul started to talk they just waited for him to finish his speech check (This might actually be how strong speech checks are lol or more likely "terrifying presence")
Tbh he dropped second one quite fast and since dude was shooting he may not have time to use flashlight, third one could probably just panic I mean, if they were same quality asi Titus it would not be suprising and if someone whistled at you and start talking after you cleared room, it would probably also give you pause (actually it looked like one of the knight looked to other like dafuq? )
Flashlight doesn't guarantee that they would be able to see the Ghoul, but it WOULD guarantee that the Ghoul sees them. They would literally be shining a bright target at themselves.
Within the scope of the story, I think they were trying to show that this new generation of armor wearers was inexperienced and generally incompetent. The Ghoul, being an old war vet from the before times, and having had to fight to survive in the irradiated wasteland, was gonna own them right from the jump.
The second one is just common sense tbh: Ghouls were often alive before the war. The Brotherhood of Steel is desperately trying to understand the technology it acquires. Why would they immediately drop someone who has experience with the technology they're looking for? Sure, they lost a squad of soldiers, but the survivors walk away with the knowledge of the T-60's biggest design flaw, which may end up saving dozens of lives in the future.
Hate that the brotherhood knights and paladins completely forgot that their state-of-the-art T-60s had headlamps... ya know? "Where is he, I can't see !"
Knights probably got used to feeling invulnerable while in the armour, having someone unintimidated and bringing the fight to you would definitely throw someone like that off-guard and tilt them.
What would it accomplish? Unless Cooper gets blinded by the flashlight, which was very unlikely, the flashlight would’ve killed them even faster. Not using the flashlight was the right thing to do. Shooting and turning your gun into visible morse code was the wrong thing to do.
Okay - new thought. It would be amazing if the Ghoul had stored away a custom set of power armor that is revealed in a later season when he is finally raiding the vault. He'd finally get to show how to use it properly. It could be a unique find or quest item in the next game in twenty years when it comes out.
@@ThePolishTexan No you didn't miss anything. I think they're making a prediction that eventually The Ghoul will raid the vault that has his wife and daughter frozen in
I commented something like this on another clip. I would also love to see coop school the wastelanders in the power armor and show what it can actually do with someone who's trained.
@@welkingunther5417its all gov’ts, the Russians cheapened out on designing in a tank to replace the T-72. So they just slightly upgraded their T-72s and called it the T-90 lol Except the T-90 has the exact same issues as the T-72, and they are learning it the hard way in Ukraine.
Well to be fair they were up against someone who wore a power armor before and knew its flaws. Its like gramps showing the new generation how he did it in his day
I like how you can read this that the Ghoul wasn't fighting Max seriously at all when they first encountered eachother. Like he could have straight up just shot him through the chest and ended it instantly but then saw how inexperienced Max was and was like "I can make this VERY funny."
New fans may not get it, but this is how it feels when max out gunslinging. I still remember having to body everyone in the brotherhood in fallout. Not a pleasant task, but my shotgun with explosive ammo made it easier
Meanwhile I'm still dressed in Powder Ganger clothes and swinging around a chunk of rebar while zonked out of my gourd with so much Jet, Psycho,, Med-X and Buffout that I can fistfight Deathclaws and win.
Absolutely cements the idea that T-60 is worse than T-51 but is a cheaper model that is an improvement on the T-45 suit but hasn’t ironed out all the kinks to the degree the T-51 did
The T60 is probably a great *infantry* suit. Tough, comparatively easy to maintain, certainly cheaper to produce than the model used by elites. It's nothing compared to the T51, which is almost certainly quicker, better designed, and probably has better sensors to boot. One can be built to equip whole divisions, the other breaks the bank even equipping just the Army Rangers. Guess which is which.
@@evanulven8249 I agree cutting a few corners for mass production of something that’s good enough for what you need it for is often a better move than pouring all you money into the T-51 and have a half of the people equipped with power armour. I like that T-60 is filling this roll, I didn’t like its role in 4 as an improvement to T-51. One of the few things I like about 76 is that different power armours are better at different things and I think it integrates its new armour types into the world and lore far better than 4 did.
@@evanulven8249Pretty sure T-51 has the same weaknesses... But hopefully what you said ends up being the case, I'm just saying I won't be surprised if the same weaknesses goes for T-51 and Enclave PAs...
I think the enclave will have patched it and it will make for a more dramatic scene with them when he realizes. Also I agree, T51b def has the same issue - that’s what they used in Alaska and that’s the war he fought in
This shows how this chapter of the brotherhood has developed a culture where they think that having power armor is all you need but clearly lack the skills of a knight.
This is what happens when your opponent knows about a weakness you probably didn't know about. Gunnery Sgt Hartman would have been very proud of his fellow Marine for such a precise shot.
I realized one the reasons max survived this encounter is becaue he was the only one thst didnt fire at the ghoul. Due to thst he didnt give away his location instead he ran knowing he stayed the ghoul wouldve killed him
Well i think its more of Max knows this guy is dangerous and the fact he knew about the power armor's flaw tells and shows Max if the ghoul wanted to kill max he'd already done it in their first encounter when he had power armor
I could be mistaken but ghouls also have low light vision, so even in the dark, with the flashes going off, Howard could have spotted him and spared him, having already taken a measure of his worth and threat
I hope they add/go back to alternate ammo types in the next Fallout game (as a crafting feature, not a random loot drop). Making specific rounds to make guns better at specific things would be really fun. Stuff like incendiary, explosive, drill, etc. Maybe some wacky new stuff that fits the Fallout aesthetic too?
Gotta love how they all have their guns pointed at him but just stand there and let him talk. They even continue to stand there even after he shoots one of them instead of shooting him.
They are have a military but they aren’t real soldiers lol. They’ve never fought an active war, they’ve at best had small scale battles, even then nothing of real substance which is why most of them act as if they aren’t use to the violence.
The Enclave would never let any factions get their hands on X-01, it's literally the perfect form of PA tech so far. Not to mention the existence of X-02 which is still a prototype experimentation.
@@anakmaganggamingX-01 was the end of the line. That was the code assigned to it as it was a prototype armor, it wasn’t mass produced and the armor that the Enclave developed many decades later was deemed Advanced Power armor and Advanced power armor Mk2 (black devil) armor. They developed those armors off the the X-01 but they are entirely different armors. The MK2 variant seen in the East at Raven Rock was perfected out there, as the entire military force was equipped with them. What they will sport in the show remains to be seen as out West they may have just maintained the classic APA from Fallout 2.
Everyone keeps saying that the Ghouls was using VATS...except VATS requires a Pip-Boy, which the Ghouls doesn't have. VATS = Vault-Tec Assisted Targeting System.
do you realize that if the ghoul does not use vats that makes him even more dangerous? he managed to move in such a way that people believed it was vats, what it will happen when/if he will have vats?
I only have one question which I have researched, but the answer still eludes me. “Can Ghouls see in the dark?” because no one could see anything in that pitch black room, so unless the Ghoul could see in the dark, how did he shoot perfect shots to every single one of them? I am aware if the other side effects the Ghouls have.
The fallout universe didn’t really develop the chips for that stuff, add to a resource starved world, and the global supply chain most likely in chaos or non existent, desperation of America I can see why night vision wasn’t a thing.
I could be wrong on this one, but as soon as Maximus becomes the Taitus knight's squire, he mentions that Taitus chose the reinforced coating on his armor and if that affected mobility, it could be that even if the necrotic threw the projectile it wouldn't pierce the armor. A simple detail that helps explain the scenes. :)
This was actually my least favourite scene of the entire show. First of all, why tf didn't they just open fire on him immediately after he whistled at them instead of letting him monologue for awhile? Then, why can he see perfectly in the dark and why doesn't his muzzle flashes give them a target to shoot at? Finally, the fight with Max in Filly seemed much more realistic (relatively speaking) as a badass bounty hunter vs a walking tank. This scene just clowns on power armour, and completely lowers the stakes of the show. If you make the ghoul an unbeatable enemy that cannot be threatened, how can you build any tension when you know plot armour beats a dozen power armour? I mean, it was a cool shootout but still...I liked the shootout in the market better, as a narrative
tbh im ok with the eastern brotherhood being clowns... we havnt seen the west yet. although they may be one and the same organization, as far as the tv show is concerned. seeing as it dosnt care particularly for following any much lore at all 😂😂😂
What you’re seeing here is a combination, the East Coast went back West with their airship. This is mostly East Coast as they’re sporting the T60. The West would sporting the T51 series. The elders are quite disgusted with the performance of those from the East it seems.
@Mitch_Conner75926 t-60 was developed after the war with modified t-45s, only on east coast (in old lore at least) meanwhile the west only used pre-war powerarmor models, with the enclave ofc using xo-1 powerarmor developed after the war, aswell. unfortunately we didnt see any classic, original PA in the show yet, which is a dissapointment for me. not even an enclave soldier in PA (and its still so wierd to me that the _enclave_ still exists but the NCR dosnt in this new universe of lore this show dumped on us... and tbh i reject it entirely 🫠🙃)
Shows how much he was just playing with Max when he had the armour.
Remember Max was just a kid riding it like a shopping cart not someone trained to actually pilot it. So odds are Max wasn’t a real threat to him, now if Max had basic training in the suit then The Ghoul might’ve dropped him
@@castbet9183 That is why he was playing with him. A few seconds was all it took for the Ghoul to figured out Max had no idea what he was doing.
You can see the realization on his face at 0:40
Ehh, sorta, a big reason he didn't just pop Max in a single shot was also that he had already emptied his gun and was using a smaller caliber weapon.
I could be wrong on this one, but as soon as Maximus becomes the Taitus knight's squire, he mentions that Taitus chose the reinforced coating on his armor and if that affected mobility, it could be that even if the necrotic threw the projectile it wouldn't pierce the armor. A simple detail that helps explain the scenes. :)
Love that the Ghoul basically uses a gun build, max luck stat and VATS perks haha
Actually no he uses these stats
Strength-5
Perception-6
Endurance-7
Charisma-7
Intelligence-4
Agility-7
Luck-4
@@stitchbruh7674 yeah I was joking haha, might as well have good luck seeing how many encounters he gets out of unscathed
200 years already can farm a lot of XP
His SPECIAL and Skills likely maxed out.......
@@annoying_HK_guy his specials are not maxed out
@@Andrew-tj8pr those special are from fallout shelter btw
I’ve sided with Mr House enough times to know that power armor doesn’t make someone invincible.
To me it's the Deathclaw, I thought I would be invincible
After two hit, it grabbed and stabbed me, gave me an instant death
The power armor it for can withstand more in combat not invincible
it does if its space marine whk 40k
@@jasont6287even astartes armor isn't invulnerable, the eye slots remain a weakspot for lasguns and it can still be pierced by bolter fire.
@@jasont6287 Impressive. Very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's armor.
I noticed that Coop uses a different ammo, I think the only reason Max is alive (besides the ghoul messing with him) was because he didn’t have that specific ammo on him at the market.
Or he thought it wasn't worth using on him. Remember he needs to either buy or make his own ammo.
Yeah and that round he loaded in to his gun looked a lot like a modern round, in this case, APCR, err Armor Piercing Composite Rigid.
If you go back and watch the Filly fight, he ejects the last of his empty armor piercing rounds, right before Lucy confronts him. We actually see him start to load a different type of ammo into his guns.
@@johnjones_1501I hate how contrived that was, and the idea of Cooper playing with Maximus doesn't make sense considering the squire was literally ragdoll-ing him around, Cooper was not having fun time and should have died given the insane feats of the PA, he only "played" with Maximus when the man got stuck.
@@brandishaccount5439he was loving it. He was literally laughing during the encounter
my only two beef with this scene is 1) that power armors are equipped with flashlights on their helmet, why none of these paladins turned their flash lights on is a mystery, and 2) before entering the building they have been killing anyone they saw, civilian or NCR soldiers, but when the ghoul started to talk they just waited for him to finish his speech check (This might actually be how strong speech checks are lol or more likely "terrifying presence")
Tbh he dropped second one quite fast and since dude was shooting he may not have time to use flashlight, third one could probably just panic I mean, if they were same quality asi Titus it would not be suprising and if someone whistled at you and start talking after you cleared room, it would probably also give you pause (actually it looked like one of the knight looked to other like dafuq? )
Script.
Flashlight doesn't guarantee that they would be able to see the Ghoul, but it WOULD guarantee that the Ghoul sees them. They would literally be shining a bright target at themselves.
Within the scope of the story, I think they were trying to show that this new generation of armor wearers was inexperienced and generally incompetent. The Ghoul, being an old war vet from the before times, and having had to fight to survive in the irradiated wasteland, was gonna own them right from the jump.
The second one is just common sense tbh: Ghouls were often alive before the war. The Brotherhood of Steel is desperately trying to understand the technology it acquires. Why would they immediately drop someone who has experience with the technology they're looking for?
Sure, they lost a squad of soldiers, but the survivors walk away with the knowledge of the T-60's biggest design flaw, which may end up saving dozens of lives in the future.
Hate that the brotherhood knights and paladins completely forgot that their state-of-the-art T-60s had headlamps... ya know? "Where is he, I can't see !"
basic training aint what it used to be....
Knights probably got used to feeling invulnerable while in the armour, having someone unintimidated and bringing the fight to you would definitely throw someone like that off-guard and tilt them.
@@daveydesjarlais8838Plus their hands are full and they probably have to push some kind of button.
@@christoff124you beat me to it 😂
What would it accomplish? Unless Cooper gets blinded by the flashlight, which was very unlikely, the flashlight would’ve killed them even faster. Not using the flashlight was the right thing to do. Shooting and turning your gun into visible morse code was the wrong thing to do.
So this is how NPC’s feel when they encounter the player character.
Okay - new thought. It would be amazing if the Ghoul had stored away a custom set of power armor that is revealed in a later season when he is finally raiding the vault. He'd finally get to show how to use it properly. It could be a unique find or quest item in the next game in twenty years when it comes out.
Cooper breaks out the X-01 in the final battle.
I'd rather see him in Elite Riot Gear
@@ThePolishTexan No you didn't miss anything. I think they're making a prediction that eventually The Ghoul will raid the vault that has his wife and daughter frozen in
I commented something like this on another clip. I would also love to see coop school the wastelanders in the power armor and show what it can actually do with someone who's trained.
0:44 thank West tech for cheapening out on fixing power armor problems.
It honestly does not surprise me, feels quite right for Pre-War America to cheap out in certain areas.
@@welkingunther5417its all gov’ts, the Russians cheapened out on designing in a tank to replace the T-72. So they just slightly upgraded their T-72s and called it the T-90 lol
Except the T-90 has the exact same issues as the T-72, and they are learning it the hard way in Ukraine.
Cause that for plebscanon foder, the true focus on power armor improvement went to the enclave models.
Mass major disrespect to power armour users lol 😂
lvl 10 power armour users against a lvl 50 wasteland legend
Its kind of what happens when you fight someone with power armor. But when you use one? Scorched Earth
Well to be fair they were up against someone who wore a power armor before and knew its flaws.
Its like gramps showing the new generation how he did it in his day
This is a man who wore power armor in anchorage and knows its flaws inside and out
All fun and games until the Ghoul uses VATS
I like how you can read this that the Ghoul wasn't fighting Max seriously at all when they first encountered eachother. Like he could have straight up just shot him through the chest and ended it instantly but then saw how inexperienced Max was and was like "I can make this VERY funny."
The ghoul didn’t have any ammo left
@@BluLobstaDudeLol he was still shooting him all the way up until the end of the engagement, he took MANY shots at him.
It may also be that he didn't have those special armor-piercing rounds with him at the time.
New fans may not get it, but this is how it feels when max out gunslinging. I still remember having to body everyone in the brotherhood in fallout. Not a pleasant task, but my shotgun with explosive ammo made it easier
Meanwhile I'm still dressed in Powder Ganger clothes and swinging around a chunk of rebar while zonked out of my gourd with so much Jet, Psycho,, Med-X and Buffout that I can fistfight Deathclaws and win.
Absolutely cements the idea that T-60 is worse than T-51 but is a cheaper model that is an improvement on the T-45 suit but hasn’t ironed out all the kinks to the degree the T-51 did
The T60 is probably a great *infantry* suit. Tough, comparatively easy to maintain, certainly cheaper to produce than the model used by elites. It's nothing compared to the T51, which is almost certainly quicker, better designed, and probably has better sensors to boot. One can be built to equip whole divisions, the other breaks the bank even equipping just the Army Rangers. Guess which is which.
@@evanulven8249 I agree cutting a few corners for mass production of something that’s good enough for what you need it for is often a better move than pouring all you money into the T-51 and have a half of the people equipped with power armour. I like that T-60 is filling this roll, I didn’t like its role in 4 as an improvement to T-51. One of the few things I like about 76 is that different power armours are better at different things and I think it integrates its new armour types into the world and lore far better than 4 did.
@@evanulven8249Pretty sure T-51 has the same weaknesses...
But hopefully what you said ends up being the case, I'm just saying I won't be surprised if the same weaknesses goes for T-51 and Enclave PAs...
I think the enclave will have patched it and it will make for a more dramatic scene with them when he realizes. Also I agree, T51b def has the same issue - that’s what they used in Alaska and that’s the war he fought in
@@itsalwaysdarkestbeforethes1198 That could be some lore inconsistency on the show's part but who knows at this point.
This shows how this chapter of the brotherhood has developed a culture where they think that having power armor is all you need but clearly lack the skills of a knight.
Given the BOS' hatred for Ghouls, this feels more satisfying.
This is what happens when your opponent knows about a weakness you probably didn't know about. Gunnery Sgt Hartman would have been very proud of his fellow Marine for such a precise shot.
What 1000 hours of gameplay feels like
Ya know it never occurred to me in game but cateye is OP
He definitely used cat-eye.
When I first saw this scene I literally shouted oh they're all dead and like 15 seconds later 💀💀💀
Bro got springlock
There was only one problem with it, there was a flaw in the welding. Just below the chest plate. Wonder if the fixed that in this new model?
I guess not
I realized one the reasons max survived this encounter is becaue he was the only one thst didnt fire at the ghoul. Due to thst he didnt give away his location instead he ran knowing he stayed the ghoul wouldve killed him
Well i think its more of Max knows this guy is dangerous and the fact he knew about the power armor's flaw tells and shows Max if the ghoul wanted to kill max he'd already done it in their first encounter when he had power armor
I could be mistaken but ghouls also have low light vision, so even in the dark, with the flashes going off, Howard could have spotted him and spared him, having already taken a measure of his worth and threat
I hope they add/go back to alternate ammo types in the next Fallout game (as a crafting feature, not a random loot drop). Making specific rounds to make guns better at specific things would be really fun. Stuff like incendiary, explosive, drill, etc. Maybe some wacky new stuff that fits the Fallout aesthetic too?
Walking into Hidden Valley Bunker:
I just realized that the power armor doesn't have a functioning headlamp
Maximus as always: 😦🗿
Gotta love how they all have their guns pointed at him but just stand there and let him talk. They even continue to stand there even after he shoots one of them instead of shooting him.
They are have a military but they aren’t real soldiers lol. They’ve never fought an active war, they’ve at best had small scale battles, even then nothing of real substance which is why most of them act as if they aren’t use to the violence.
And that is what 219 years of combat experience looks like.
Thankfully they fixed the fatal flaw in the X01 suit in the games
The Enclave would never let any factions get their hands on X-01, it's literally the perfect form of PA tech so far. Not to mention the existence of X-02 which is still a prototype experimentation.
@@anakmaganggamingX-01 was the end of the line. That was the code assigned to it as it was a prototype armor, it wasn’t mass produced and the armor that the Enclave developed many decades later was deemed Advanced Power armor and Advanced power armor Mk2 (black devil) armor. They developed those armors off the the X-01 but they are entirely different armors. The MK2 variant seen in the East at Raven Rock was perfected out there, as the entire military force was equipped with them. What they will sport in the show remains to be seen as out West they may have just maintained the classic APA from Fallout 2.
Everyone keeps saying that the Ghouls was using VATS...except VATS requires a Pip-Boy, which the Ghouls doesn't have.
VATS = Vault-Tec Assisted Targeting System.
do you realize that if the ghoul does not use vats that makes him even more dangerous? he managed to move in such a way that people believed it was vats, what it will happen when/if he will have vats?
If he did have a pip-boy and used VATS then oh boy... everyone is either crippled or lost a limb or two.
Nate uses VATS without a Pip-Boy when he's out of the chamber in Vault 111.
@@Alfei3 - Good observation, but I think that's more an oversight on the game developer for dramatic purposes.
He was using aimed shots.
0:36 I guess not
I only have one question which I have researched, but the answer still eludes me. “Can Ghouls see in the dark?” because no one could see anything in that pitch black room, so unless the Ghoul could see in the dark, how did he shoot perfect shots to every single one of them?
I am aware if the other side effects the Ghouls have.
I think it's a combination of being a former soldier, being over 200 years old, the Knights didn't actually move from their spot and the muzzle flash.
Unless he had cat eye but then again he been into darkness (buried alive i mean) so maybe he has some vision along with the constant gun fire
With the amount of perks in Fallout and the chems, seeing in the dark ain't really a problem tbh.
This show proved how light armor crit build will always beat power armor
What song was he singing? Anyone know?
Tears of the bos fanboys are delicious
About what you’d expect from an ex-military cowboy who’s worked as a bounty hunter in the wasteland for over *200 years*.
Come on, we all know headlights are standard issue on all power armors.
probably undermaintained or the users completely forgot out of panic.
And? All turning on lights would do is show where the Knights are, it doesn't guarantee that they would be able to find the Ghoul
Its so unlogical why power armors dont have nightvision, or at least flashlight on helm
The fallout universe didn’t really develop the chips for that stuff, add to a resource starved world, and the global supply chain most likely in chaos or non existent, desperation of America I can see why night vision wasn’t a thing.
They did. But it’s hard to think when you’re panicking
@raiderdare7462 Night vision exists in both Fallout 76 and New Vargas
I came to this video to see the ghoul fighting. I go to the comments and all the comments talking about Max.
I love this series. Cant wait for season 2.
So did they forget Power Armor has a spotlight?
I bet that outfit makes yall feel like a big man don’t it?
I could be wrong on this one, but as soon as Maximus becomes the Taitus knight's squire, he mentions that Taitus chose the reinforced coating on his armor and if that affected mobility, it could be that even if the necrotic threw the projectile it wouldn't pierce the armor. A simple detail that helps explain the scenes. :)
Why didn’t any of them turn on their head lamps?
Untrained.
He took out one you armor mech, with one bullet. And you all think you can beat him😅.
I think ill semi quote this whem i wipe out the Mojave chapter
My best scene
The fall off is INSANE
This was actually my least favourite scene of the entire show. First of all, why tf didn't they just open fire on him immediately after he whistled at them instead of letting him monologue for awhile? Then, why can he see perfectly in the dark and why doesn't his muzzle flashes give them a target to shoot at? Finally, the fight with Max in Filly seemed much more realistic (relatively speaking) as a badass bounty hunter vs a walking tank. This scene just clowns on power armour, and completely lowers the stakes of the show. If you make the ghoul an unbeatable enemy that cannot be threatened, how can you build any tension when you know plot armour beats a dozen power armour? I mean, it was a cool shootout but still...I liked the shootout in the market better, as a narrative
175 views in 9 hours yall fell off 💀
Look at the channel name m8. This is the Prime channel for Australia and New Zealand
He used VATS on him
🤠🛒💥
tbh im ok with the eastern brotherhood being clowns... we havnt seen the west yet. although they may be one and the same organization, as far as the tv show is concerned. seeing as it dosnt care particularly for following any much lore at all 😂😂😂
What you’re seeing here is a combination, the East Coast went back West with their airship. This is mostly East Coast as they’re sporting the T60. The West would sporting the T51 series. The elders are quite disgusted with the performance of those from the East it seems.
@Mitch_Conner75926 t-60 was developed after the war with modified t-45s, only on east coast (in old lore at least) meanwhile the west only used pre-war powerarmor models, with the enclave ofc using xo-1 powerarmor developed after the war, aswell. unfortunately we didnt see any classic, original PA in the show yet, which is a dissapointment for me. not even an enclave soldier in PA (and its still so wierd to me that the _enclave_ still exists but the NCR dosnt in this new universe of lore this show dumped on us... and tbh i reject it entirely 🫠🙃)