Why Head Movement is Risky

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  • @HatianHurricane
    @HatianHurricane 3 місяці тому +467

    Many years ago my JKD teacher taught me that. You cannot slip punches in Muay Thai the way you do in boxing. You expose yourself to kicks and knees.

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 3 місяці тому +26

      Yeah, that's true. You can still do it IF you do not show your opponent that you have the intention of doing it, so they do not nail you like the guy on this video OR if you are ready for them to try to exploit (you need to pretry decent at fight for both but usually more for the second one)

    • @Leo.23232
      @Leo.23232 3 місяці тому +10

      you can slip and use head movement in muay thai

    • @HatianHurricane
      @HatianHurricane 3 місяці тому +33

      @@Leo.23232 Of course you can. I specifically said the way you do in boxing. It's different. In boxing, you don't have to worry about a counter knee or kick. In Muay Thai or kickboxing, you have to be cognizant of those counters that are not prevalent in boxing.

    • @Leo.23232
      @Leo.23232 3 місяці тому +5

      @@HatianHurricane i agree with that, definitely more risk

    • @theraym14
      @theraym14 3 місяці тому +2

      @@HatianHurricane So what *can* you do instead of slipping?

  • @codymarandola3164
    @codymarandola3164 3 місяці тому +185

    Headmovement is essential however you HAVE TO KEEP YOUR GUARD UP TOO!!

    • @mccesar8823
      @mccesar8823 3 місяці тому +10

      No u dont always. Guard can take away some of ur Vision sometimes and Power. Have u ever seen a good fighter alwaS guard up? But hey you know it better

    • @Yuffie777
      @Yuffie777 3 місяці тому

      ​Gabriel vargas ​@@mccesar8823

    • @user-ju4op8fv7n
      @user-ju4op8fv7n 2 місяці тому

      True but if you work on your head movement it won't be risky to use head movement​@@mccesar8823

    • @GeneralKitten
      @GeneralKitten 2 місяці тому +4

      Only fools don't get it

    • @Asaru_frm023
      @Asaru_frm023 2 місяці тому

      @@GeneralKittenFacts

  • @imhassane
    @imhassane 3 місяці тому +76

    I love how pros notice these details pretty quickly. I notice patterns when I fight but it’s usually after three times at least

    • @ezsmith3765
      @ezsmith3765 3 місяці тому +14

      You’ll get quicker and quicker at recognizing opponents habits.
      Just keep at it.

    • @alexkehoepwj
      @alexkehoepwj 2 місяці тому +2

      For sure, that guy saw that hole really quickly

    • @phugia963
      @phugia963 Місяць тому +1

      Most of the time they have their coaches and the whole team analyzing the opponent and give him strategies for fighting.

  • @SavSci
    @SavSci 3 місяці тому +76

    Slipping is fine you just can't lose sight of complete defense... hands and legs.

  • @Combat-Mindset
    @Combat-Mindset 3 місяці тому +115

    Tell that to Samart Payakaroon (GOAT of Muay Thai), Somrak Khamsing among few of the other OG's who used headmovement on a daily!

    • @SKILLz-se5rc
      @SKILLz-se5rc 3 місяці тому +46

      Doesn’t say it can’t be used. Its just dangerous.

    • @asifahmed3521
      @asifahmed3521 3 місяці тому +35

      Everyone is not samart Or lerdsila Or seanchai

    • @youtubeaccount3704
      @youtubeaccount3704 3 місяці тому +13

      The exception is not the norm

    • @user-rj5qr9sh2d
      @user-rj5qr9sh2d 3 місяці тому +1

      สมรักษ์ได้เหรียญทองโอลิมปิกที่แอตแลนต้านะ ในรุ่นน้ำหนักเดียวกับฟลอย เมเวธเธอร์นะ😂

    • @codyscale1911
      @codyscale1911 2 місяці тому +2

      @@youtubeaccount3704head movement makes a great fighter! if you think your just gonna use high guard, blocking & a few pull slips against a good boxer in a street fight you’ll loose pretty much all the exchanges! A good slip counter in the street ends most fights, you can’t just stand there like a punching bag not moving your head

  • @DTKRDMNK
    @DTKRDMNK 3 місяці тому +22

    Slipping to Sleeping.

  • @ABBX3
    @ABBX3 2 місяці тому +3

    Bro was hyped up after dodging, forgetting that his opponent was still standing. He could have blocked that.

  • @lamertofar8gaming443
    @lamertofar8gaming443 3 місяці тому +57

    All he had to do was keep his hands up

    • @MUSCULAR_DUOLINGO
      @MUSCULAR_DUOLINGO 3 місяці тому +14

      Well, that doesn't always work, like when Dustin Poirier fought Justin Gaejthe

    • @lamertofar8gaming443
      @lamertofar8gaming443 3 місяці тому +10

      @MUSCULAR_DUOLINGO well that's mma gloves also

    • @ChucksSEADnDEAD
      @ChucksSEADnDEAD 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@@MUSCULAR_DUOLINGO Don't need to be doing head movement for those kicks to land.

    • @alantacher7145
      @alantacher7145 3 місяці тому +1

      Many such cases.

    • @lamertofar8gaming443
      @lamertofar8gaming443 3 місяці тому +2

      @@alantacher7145 almost every head ko

  • @Rvvni
    @Rvvni 2 місяці тому +11

    Coming from boxing (self-taught), my Muay Thai coach shown me this exact case of what happens if you overslip a punch.

    • @alexalysaa
      @alexalysaa Місяць тому +1

      The truth is , modern muay-Thai adapts boxing for a long while
      Likewise American kick-boxing / modern boxing also adapts some theory of Martial-Arts , especially the elbow-defence technique.
      In the end , we learn and interact :) Theory has no nationalities and boundaries in the end

  • @streetninja81
    @streetninja81 3 місяці тому +6

    My muay thai master always told me if you dip and weave in muay thai you can get kneed or elbowed

  • @MutedAggression
    @MutedAggression 3 місяці тому +5

    I never thought of using the cross off a forearm block to obfuscate my rear head kick. Brilliant.

    • @tonyattardo9350
      @tonyattardo9350 Місяць тому

      Wonder boy is a master of disguising the kick behind the power side punch. Wish I had the dexterity to pull that off.

    • @tonyattardo9350
      @tonyattardo9350 Місяць тому

      ua-cam.com/users/shortslkTxpwPtLpg?si=O5Y9sZAHRqZKKxJj

  • @atlam928
    @atlam928 3 місяці тому +1

    as a boxer dude tranfer to muaythai , this sent chill down my spine

  • @biochemicks2709
    @biochemicks2709 3 місяці тому +1

    Very sneaky hand trap, I didn;'t catch it originally

  • @igorsilva3988
    @igorsilva3988 3 місяці тому +2

    Risky, but not impossible. It takes a lot of experience and reflexes to use it right. You really got to know what youre doing.

  • @evansketches
    @evansketches 3 місяці тому +1

    Ah, a wonderful clip of "The Immortal" himself, Regian Eersel😌
    This specific technique is becoming quite hot nowadays. Notable users being Leon Edwards and Justin Gaethje

  • @TheKyushinbukan
    @TheKyushinbukan 3 місяці тому +1

    Slip with no guard is worst...

  • @bobdagreat3
    @bobdagreat3 2 місяці тому +1

    Whenever the boxing guys jump in to the muay thai class for fun I always tell them "treat your muay thai stance like at any given moment a random foot from aa random direction could come flying at your head."

    • @alexalysaa
      @alexalysaa Місяць тому

      My friendly advise is “to watch-out” for low-kicks …. Usually we seldom do elbows and angles (let alone throws) in (friendly)sparring , unless and until one wishes to move into advance-classes 😏😏

  • @ASX373
    @ASX373 3 місяці тому

    Love your analysis video. Fighting is a game of chess happening in the arena. ❤

  • @michaelmiller6062
    @michaelmiller6062 Місяць тому

    Beautiful timing

  • @jioreyes5838
    @jioreyes5838 3 місяці тому +2

    He couldve avoided the kick or at least seen it coming, he was the problem not the head movement

  • @chula538
    @chula538 3 місяці тому

    He didn’t realize his opponent switch stances in the middle of that exchange

  • @hoohtenan3435
    @hoohtenan3435 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks to admin for explaining

  • @EonThaWolf
    @EonThaWolf Місяць тому

    Nah, he just didn't reset his guard. It looks like he isn't even being serious, I dare say.

  • @xdeadwrongxdeadwrong7181
    @xdeadwrongxdeadwrong7181 Місяць тому

    Goodness, that looked like a deadly kick 😮

  • @StubenhockerElite
    @StubenhockerElite Місяць тому

    Blink and you miss it

  • @Larry_Hegs
    @Larry_Hegs Місяць тому +1

    Seasoned boxer who switched to muay thai over a decade ago in my 20s and I had this exact same experience. It's rough.

  • @aryanahr7887
    @aryanahr7887 27 днів тому

    That's tactical! 👏

  • @blakemckenna367
    @blakemckenna367 Місяць тому

    Similar to Edwards head kick, head movement caused that ko to be even more brutal

  • @bekirhaneleman
    @bekirhaneleman 3 місяці тому +1

    Bu tür kontra vuruşları seviyorum Peter Aerts, Mirco Cro Cop ve Francisco Filho bu tekniği dünyada en iyi uygulayan dövüşcülerdir

  • @whoknows8223
    @whoknows8223 Місяць тому

    Haha one of my favorite feints is to feint the right lowkick (just do the jump with the right foot) and then throw an overhand. Lands very, very often.
    So its other way round feint leg throw punch but quite the same principle

  • @KuraraPalacios
    @KuraraPalacios 2 місяці тому +1

    I slip all the time in muay thai, you just can't exaggerate the slipping

  • @tonyattardo9350
    @tonyattardo9350 Місяць тому

    BJJ guy personally. Buddy asked what martial art should his daughter train, wrestling and Muay Thai. Pure proven effectiveness.

  • @gauravarya8952
    @gauravarya8952 3 місяці тому +2

    nice trick

  • @urhallibut419
    @urhallibut419 2 місяці тому

    The fight iq here in insane

  • @yeejonlui2891
    @yeejonlui2891 3 місяці тому +1

    it is art

  • @The_Monteiro
    @The_Monteiro Місяць тому +1

    It’s not risky, over slipping and dropping guard is what messes you up. You don’t need to slip every punch either usually a small step backwards is good enough to get off range from your opponent’s strikes according to my Kru whose been in the art for 40+ years. 🙏🏽

    • @alexalysaa
      @alexalysaa Місяць тому

      Slipping is for sleeping . Yet these 2 are already masters and pros, one may not make such a great response were one to be either of one of them 😊

  • @queenlip6152
    @queenlip6152 Місяць тому

    It doesn't looks like the head slip movement is the culprit. It's his left hand is trapped by the punch. Thereby, not allowing a deeper head slip that would have escaped the follow up kick.

  • @TheRealNickG
    @TheRealNickG 2 місяці тому +1

    Yeah, don't do it poorly. I wouldn't ask the boxing guy about leg kicks and I'm not going to ask the muay thai guy about slipping punches. The real lesson is always do it correctly or suffer even more painful consequences. Minimum deviation is key in good defensive movements and he was kinda doing the most and got caught up.

  • @NhemLee
    @NhemLee 3 місяці тому

    Is that Raymond Daniels?

  • @Fin4L6are
    @Fin4L6are 3 місяці тому +1

    Lion Fight was the best

  • @joshuageographic6201
    @joshuageographic6201 Місяць тому

    Keep your hands up

  • @RigMaster_
    @RigMaster_ Місяць тому

    You don't slip a punch like that in boxing... He is just leaning to one side, which also makes you off balance.

  • @huwaidifaizal7869
    @huwaidifaizal7869 2 місяці тому

    Same thing happened to usman and dustin porier

  • @dangelorecker
    @dangelorecker 3 місяці тому

    What about Petrosyan? I would like to know about his technique in this regard.

    • @codyscale1911
      @codyscale1911 2 місяці тому +2

      Your exactly right most of the best kick boxers use great head movement mostly know how to use it from knowing the range by also having good footwork

  • @CaptainNikolaiIlyichSnegiryov
    @CaptainNikolaiIlyichSnegiryov 2 місяці тому

    Your 🩳 are awesome

  • @andrewpaulmarshall7160
    @andrewpaulmarshall7160 3 місяці тому

    Nice

  • @DatriniThug
    @DatriniThug 3 місяці тому

    Right on the jaw too

  • @madmaster3d
    @madmaster3d Місяць тому

    nice

  • @JeremyConners
    @JeremyConners 3 місяці тому

    I’m using this

  • @bbull71
    @bbull71 2 місяці тому

    Unless you are lerdzilla ❤

  • @pafightergaming7904
    @pafightergaming7904 Місяць тому

    Nah he just overcommit it

  • @juanjosearreolazuniga9881
    @juanjosearreolazuniga9881 3 місяці тому

    Hermoso

  • @vasiliusmaximus2256
    @vasiliusmaximus2256 3 місяці тому

    There s always exceptions to the rule. Saenchai,lerdsila are a few examples. Most people /fighters don t have the genetic gift and skills to do it,though

  • @user-in8by4yy8o
    @user-in8by4yy8o 3 місяці тому

    🎉

  • @azzcoopz3270
    @azzcoopz3270 Місяць тому +1

    This is why Muay Thai fighters often just eat punches instead of slipping/rolling like a boxer

  • @justsadlistener9114
    @justsadlistener9114 Місяць тому

    Jaw kick

  • @sadiasulemanfamilykitchenv9872
    @sadiasulemanfamilykitchenv9872 3 місяці тому

    😮

  • @ramonepedgio5964
    @ramonepedgio5964 Місяць тому

    But isn't no head movement also risky?

  • @phuocloc6030
    @phuocloc6030 3 місяці тому

    No, it's your fault using kicks in wrong situations.

  • @isndikdiw777
    @isndikdiw777 Місяць тому

    u can set up punches in boxing aswell, what's the point here

  • @ComicusFreemanius
    @ComicusFreemanius 3 місяці тому

    is it just me or are his legs skinny?

    • @alantacher7145
      @alantacher7145 3 місяці тому +1

      For fighting you only need strong quads not calves, calves dont add much more power.

    • @ComicusFreemanius
      @ComicusFreemanius 3 місяці тому

      @@alantacher7145You need calves to jump, and angle and to uh... walk. In Muay Thai the roundhouse actually pulls the ground with the calf. But I mean his thigh is skinny, even the ligaments behind the knee don't flare out. I think he just overtrains. Micheal Page's legs look the same.

    • @MB-sl3hx
      @MB-sl3hx 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@ComicusFreemaniusAs a man with skinny legs who has been training all his life and muay thai for over 20 years. Its mostly genetic. Look at Jon Bones Jones. Lol he is my go to comfort when I feel shitty because my legs are skinnier than most.

    • @ComicusFreemanius
      @ComicusFreemanius 3 місяці тому

      @@MB-sl3hx JJ and MVP are two of the scariest people on the planet. My legs were the only place I stored fat, I skateboarded from pretty young so my legs took a lot of rebound and I feel like I traded bone density for hip mobility, question mark kicks are almost impossible for me.

    • @MB-sl3hx
      @MB-sl3hx 3 місяці тому

      @@ComicusFreemanius Love Boondocks by the way

  • @alexalysaa
    @alexalysaa Місяць тому

    The art of kicks in muay-Thai is like using legs as flexibly as arms 😊
    This cup slows a perfect execution of traps and kicks.
    On the other hand , I won’t judge the opponent making any mistake at all -- it’s the masters’ combat and not easy for most to react were we to be in the real scenario .
    And the truth is this trap is mastery . The always truth / friendly advise is never dropping our hands/arm 😊

  • @FreshlyFuckedBrainMatter
    @FreshlyFuckedBrainMatter 3 місяці тому +1

    That was crazy it was like his head didn’t go as far as he wanted because it bounced back off his shoulder

  • @alexalysaa
    @alexalysaa Місяць тому

    一個人的技術犯錯與他所學的門派沒有關係。另外這些是頂級高手對決若放在我們普通人身上能否如此冷靜作出判決已經是後話😊