@@nebulous9280 I don't think most people just went for cheese build.i've never used songbirds or dual zimmerman or even needle. I'm pretty sure most people just go with a theme. The only time I moved away from that was on my NG++ for the last fight because I was too slow with my quadlegged MT and went full missile spam
OH MY GOD THE X MOVE JUMP DODGE WAS SO GOOD, she expected you to keep moving up but naturally, gravity pulls you down, that's the most clever dodge I've ever seen
These are not reverse joints anymore, it's since AC4 that the articulation of "jumpy" legs has the femour and tibia connect in a realistic spring-like structure with an additional long "bone" connecting it to the foot.
@@SowiniBushido i think thats because a heavy mech vs lightweight mech is all about perception, each mech when moving is enough to avoid incoming fire from enemies. movement is all relative.
Cut out those few greedy moments at the end and that unlucky slash timing in the middle of the fight, and this would have actually been done damageless. Out of all fights in the game, I never would've thought that this one would be possible for that thanks to how many drones are active throughout the fight
Came here mentally reading "CEL 240 Has More Openings Than You-r mom". But i wasn't dissapointed. The Build is delicious and the combat is flawless. It also demonstrates that the heli skill filter was a good idea: you either play in a way that is fun and stilish, or you loose. Very well done indeed
That opening attack is a great window for an immediate stagger and pile bunker, and is extremely consistent. Of course this video also displays some other openings that can be abused with the correct amount of awareness. Good stuff!
I’ll never understand how someone can take an hour for this boss, half an hour maybe, but a full hour just seems like there’s a problem that isn’t just “boss hard”
@@dokutah7374I spent 3 1/2 hours on it first time... but that was also towards the end of a 17 hour stream. And my brain was refusing to learn. Then I dodged left twice at the start instead of going under and felt REALLY stupid for the next 10 tries
I used reverse joint, dual gats dual 10 pack missiles. Pre patch I used gatlings to drive it back. And force it to rely on the drone wings to low slash it does at the start. Two hops left, 20 missiles and gat dump at point blank. It only took 2 focused attacks to destroy it
Damn You have to be really coordinated to land those strikes To know what attacks it will do Where it currently is Where it will be And where you currently are And when to strike.
idk this guy can be steamrolled with any weapon my favorite is double pistols into melee into assault armor into kick dies in the same time and you don't really need a repair kit so I skip the ammo crate anyway
Hey! Love your videos, thank you very much for the super cool fights. I'm trying to learn how to piece up effective ACs and while looking at your build I was wondering about your choice of generator considering you are using the laser shotgun. I think the generator you are using has an energy firearm output of 88. What made you choose that generator for that weapon? My theory is that you are only using the shotgun for it's stagger to fill the bar when your melee hits are not enough, but I would like to hear about it from you. Thanks!
it does actually have a energy firearm output of 88, I only used it for the very high capacity (multiple quickboosts/dodges back to back, I use it for the melee cancel also, and has fast recharge so I don't get stuck with 0 where I can't dodge anymore) the energy firearm does help the shotgun damage itself, but from what I've seen the charged attack I mainly do gets registered as a melee attack, and doesn't get affected by that i mostly look at generators for their EN capacity and recharge, didn't care much for the firearm spec as this is mostly melee shotgun was for the stagger yep, you are right, if you look at the very start of the fight, the charged moonlight into pulse blade attacks isn't enough to stagger the boss, the charged shotgun results into staggering the boss there i tried to make it melee only but i think i used the shotgun damage by itself, not charged, 1-2 times to stagger the boss, it isn't too rare to end up with the boss stagger meter close to full and you end up needing the tiny help from the shotgun hit
@@kage_hunterfellow Wuerger user here, the charge is affected by firearm spec. It's just that values below 100 have half the effectiveness of values above 100 so it isn't as noticeable I think, 94% damage on Wuerger charge is still *very* punchy when it lands lol
I dont think its the fact that he has more openings, But the fact that you are locked out of the other mech parts that makes the fight infinitely easier. All the End Game gear is so much faster and the Upgrades make the fight a breeze the second time.
nah in a fresh run you get a lot of stuff to make this fight piss easy(shotguns, missile launchers, laser lace, pilebunker, miniguns or explosives)Ibis has a lot of openings but ppl have 0 to none patience even for the most basic things and blame the game/get angry
how are you fighting a boss without hard lock? i can't melee with a hardlock cuz moving the camera is very jittery you can't make small corrections. are you truely using a normal controller
@@narkformost867 lol, that is funny, thanks for telling I never specced into the Manual Aiming in the OS upgrades so I thought how I was playing was with the normal lock-on/hard-lock on good to know, I suppose that is why I had to move my camera properly when the lock-on went away hence the soft-lock on i wonder if hard-lock on would have made it easier or harder
@@kage_hunter Hard-lock is better if you're aggressively assault boosting, but soft-lock with camera sensitivity to max will allow for quicker tracking if you know where Ibis is going to be. Won my first time with a soft-lock missile build but use hard-lock for builds that need the AB boost to close.
CEL-240 was one of the easiest bosses in the game for me, even though it felt like it should be really hard. The whole moveset just makes sense to me and it clicked really fast. I think its incredibly well designed, all these openings are very intuitive
It has a pattern. Once you memorize where it's going to dash next you can just beat it there and hit it with whatever you want. Of course you get here after learning the boss, so all the genuine experiences against it are already used up.
I wouldn't say it has a pattern so much as it has limited types of attacks. And the patch basically told it "Stop spamming triple blades!". So now it can't spam as bad. But it'll still do what's effective. For example if you keep it at bay without being too aggressive it uses drones, then to get in close to attempt the triple blade, it does drone wings to low slash. Then if it uses triple blade up close, it immediately backs off to use one of the 4 more ranged attacks since it can't spam triple blade anymore. At this point I'm positive that it doesn't have a pattern, just limited moves. And it uses those moves in the order of whatever seems like a good idea at the time. So more than likely, it's the players that have a pattern
I was about to be all "No you get it in this mission!" But then I remembered you have to *complete* the mission in order to actually start using it.@@Aereto
Frame parts are Kasuar legs, Basho arms, C-2000 core, and Alba head. Weapons are pulse blade, Moonlight, and Wueger laser shotgun. The generator is an internal combustion generator (orange booster trail), and booster is likely KIKAKU.
@@Ghorda9 If you beat CEL once you can do it again but man I woulda liked to have it on NG for that fight. Woulda been neat to equip new weapons on the fly but that's DxM's gimmick not AC's.
AC6 combat isn't really as dependant on "openings" as dark souls or elden ring, honestly. You can attack while dodging in most cases it's really more about knowing when the enemy is going to hold still long enough for something to connect. It's kind of an opening, kind of not since you're still avoiding things as it happens.
The hardest thing about this boss is just getting a hit in, because it feels like it doesn't actually have that much health (in either phase), on my first playthrough I could consistently get to 2nd phase but I'd have no ammo or repair kits left
@@user-lv8dn8gw9z if you can observe it closely it has plenty of openings for you to unload your heavy hitting attacks it has input reading so if you for example tried to spam your gatling guns it'll try to dodge and punish you for it so meaning if you're not patient enough you're actually missing out on a lot of openings and easily punishable attacks
I used the Gatling wheelchair build to finish because I got frustrated getting killed very close to the end a couple times using lance and laser blade. Might need to give this a shot.
@@kage_hunter Are you sure? Im like 90% sure that you can equip something you found in a chest once youve found it, and the moonlight sword is this stage, so if you found it and then died on CEL then went to go switch parts in the death menu pretty sure you would be solid.
are you serious?!?!?! It took me so long to get s ranking againts it! This was actually the hardest S rank, it was even like the third to last one I completed to get the achievement, for some reason I also had a hard time with the Inspection mission and the stupid Vespers (not the worm or the Redguns, the stupid Vespers gave me a hard time)
it is new game, from what I know nothing changes with ng+ or ng++ for bosses this is old before the nerf to the bosses though, the boss has less hp and deals less damage with certain attacks now
@@user-lv8dn8gw9z felt as if i was more upgraded and better than my previous build. Most missions were low diff, and i only had to change weapons not body parts for ng++
Bro who tf is using moonlight as a crutch Now if you said zimmermans or the iceworm needle gun I'd agree but this is the first video I've seen of someone using moonlight for ibis
Nice build and strategy, but because I have no patience to learn bosses attack patterns and ragequit after three losses, I'm forced to get the Chainsaw from chapter 3 and just copy the chainsaw strat. It's a cool boss fight for those who have the patience and skill to click with it. Personally I think the second phase could use a checkpoint.
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I don't need openings since I play like a lobotomite with zero regards for my life, two coquillets and a dream
Spoken like a true merc
what about two more ducketts
a lobotomite 😂😂😂😂😂
thats the true independent merc life
dual etsujin for me
Well, done. Also good to see people putting unestablished weapons to good use.
what unestablished weapons?
@@ereder1476I think he means underused or underrated
@@ereder1476Probably the Schneider Laser Shotgun. I absolutely adore this thing as a sub weapon for a Melee centric build.
@@nebulous9280 I don't think most people just went for cheese build.i've never used songbirds or dual zimmerman or even needle. I'm pretty sure most people just go with a theme.
The only time I moved away from that was on my NG++ for the last fight because I was too slow with my quadlegged MT and went full missile spam
OH MY GOD THE X MOVE JUMP DODGE WAS SO GOOD, she expected you to keep moving up but naturally, gravity pulls you down, that's the most clever dodge I've ever seen
I literally only know this way to dodge, I can't effectively dodge it going sideways even qhen I try to juke it out.
@@korewa_Matoya you are dodging to early
@@korewa_Matoya it's literally easier to let gravity do the work for you lmao, good thing IBIS has no target leading tracker.
why "She" its a machine so "it"
@@GrayFolxy tell that to all those 18th century sailors or car dudes calling their rides She/her.
so grateful to see someone using reverse-joint and making them look good, i rocked the Kasuar legs for my whole first time through the game
yep those jumps are very fun, 2:05 is quite cool also with the sideway jump dodges
These are not reverse joints anymore, it's since AC4 that the articulation of "jumpy" legs has the femour and tibia connect in a realistic spring-like structure with an additional long "bone" connecting it to the foot.
I mostly went with the mind beta.
I used spring chicken for almost my entire first playthrough
@@gormold4163 Same. Mind Beta was my Jam for one of my builds!
It physically hurts me to watch you beat this boss without using any heals, because of how much i struggle with it XD
This type of boss where playin passively is easier for me
@@KABLAMMATSyup for some reason my heavyweight mech had an easier time dodging and landing shots than my lightweight build
She was the third hardest boss for me probably because I have the least interesting build around.
@@SowiniBushido i think thats because a heavy mech vs lightweight mech is all about perception, each mech when moving is enough to avoid incoming fire from enemies. movement is all relative.
Cut out those few greedy moments at the end and that unlucky slash timing in the middle of the fight, and this would have actually been done damageless. Out of all fights in the game, I never would've thought that this one would be possible for that thanks to how many drones are active throughout the fight
I prefer incompetently flailing and barely winning but wow that was smooth capn
nice movie dude
Came here mentally reading "CEL 240 Has More Openings Than You-r mom". But i wasn't dissapointed. The Build is delicious and the combat is flawless. It also demonstrates that the heli skill filter was a good idea: you either play in a way that is fun and stilish, or you loose. Very well done indeed
not sure how face hugging and wacking with a sword 6 times is either fun or stylish.
That opening attack is a great window for an immediate stagger and pile bunker, and is extremely consistent. Of course this video also displays some other openings that can be abused with the correct amount of awareness. Good stuff!
Cool build, i just used the classic laser lance pile bunker combo for my 3 runs, but I may have to give this a go
My man reading Ibis like a book. Also love seeing a different strat for this fight, made it way more entertaining.
That was fantastic, closest thing to a sword fight I've seen in this game.
You are playing so well, I spent hours on this fight and after beating it 3 playthroughs it wasn’t nearly this clean
Thanks man, glad you are enjoying the game
I’ll never understand how someone can take an hour for this boss, half an hour maybe, but a full hour just seems like there’s a problem that isn’t just “boss hard”
@@dokutah7374Okay
@@dokutah7374I spent 3 1/2 hours on it first time... but that was also towards the end of a 17 hour stream. And my brain was refusing to learn. Then I dodged left twice at the start instead of going under and felt REALLY stupid for the next 10 tries
@@hf117j understandable since it was during a stream, that’s an entirely different problem
God I wish moonlight could have been used during that fight the first time 😂. Nice reverse joint movement as well 👍🏾
Cel 240 is basically Qubeley in gundam
Every time it stood still, I thought it was a trap and never tried to get close.
Bro deconstructed Ibis and turned them into a lesson 💀
I used reverse joint, dual gats dual 10 pack missiles. Pre patch I used gatlings to drive it back. And force it to rely on the drone wings to low slash it does at the start. Two hops left, 20 missiles and gat dump at point blank. It only took 2 focused attacks to destroy it
Man went super Saiyan 2 on cell and he was like no I'm cell and he was like I'm Gohan and cell was like ☠️.
Someone finally gave Ayre the railing she deserves.
except this isn't Ayre.
I love that shotgun, its like a damn powerfist its based as hell
Super interesting build! A straight up brawler
How long did it take to memorize her movements?
Well done though! Cool to see someone else use that shotgun like I do!
i did this boss for like 2 hours
@@kage_hunterwhat shotgun is that? It looks sick
@@yeltzingomez637looks like one of the laser shotguns
@@yeltzingomez6374 days late, but Wuerger.
Dang that was beautiful, well done
1:55 probably best part.
Absolutely masterful 🤩
Jumping to trick the X slash attack is pretty smart
That build is sick! Super clean fight too.
Buttery smooth.
Zamn i kinda brute forced this with my boss destyoer bulid
a bipedal mech capable of carrying 2 stun needle launches and 2 more larger laser riffles
Damn
You have to be really coordinated to land those strikes
To know what attacks it will do
Where it currently is
Where it will be
And where you currently are
And when to strike.
idk this guy can be steamrolled with any weapon my favorite is double pistols into melee into assault armor into kick dies in the same time and you don't really need a repair kit so I skip the ammo crate anyway
Me encanta que le demuestres a esa máquina que su espada de pacotilla no se compara con el poder de la MOONLIGHT GREATSWORD 🗡️🌕
Hey! Love your videos, thank you very much for the super cool fights. I'm trying to learn how to piece up effective ACs and while looking at your build I was wondering about your choice of generator considering you are using the laser shotgun. I think the generator you are using has an energy firearm output of 88. What made you choose that generator for that weapon? My theory is that you are only using the shotgun for it's stagger to fill the bar when your melee hits are not enough, but I would like to hear about it from you. Thanks!
it does actually have a energy firearm output of 88, I only used it for the very high capacity (multiple quickboosts/dodges back to back, I use it for the melee cancel also, and has fast recharge so I don't get stuck with 0 where I can't dodge anymore)
the energy firearm does help the shotgun damage itself, but from what I've seen the charged attack I mainly do gets registered as a melee attack, and doesn't get affected by that
i mostly look at generators for their EN capacity and recharge, didn't care much for the firearm spec as this is mostly melee
shotgun was for the stagger yep, you are right, if you look at the very start of the fight, the charged moonlight into pulse blade attacks isn't enough to stagger the boss, the charged shotgun results into staggering the boss there
i tried to make it melee only but i think i used the shotgun damage by itself, not charged, 1-2 times to stagger the boss, it isn't too rare to end up with the boss stagger meter close to full and you end up needing the tiny help from the shotgun hit
@@kage_hunter Yup, makes sense to me, thank you for the detailed explanation, it is very instructive
@@kage_hunterfellow Wuerger user here, the charge is affected by firearm spec. It's just that values below 100 have half the effectiveness of values above 100 so it isn't as noticeable I think, 94% damage on Wuerger charge is still *very* punchy when it lands lol
dayum
you memorized all of CEL 240s moves!
im too stupid for that xD
Oh shit insane!
I never seen this boss do that fuckin thing it did in 2:10 that shit was crazy
Its a cool way to beat it, but you cant use moonlight unless you actually kill CEL240
Literally, and maybe it's just me but this version of ibis doesn't seem as aggressive as the last time I fought her
@user-lv8dn8gw9z if you run away from it, it will force it to close distance to you and that creates very easy openings to exploit.
I dont think its the fact that he has more openings, But the fact that you are locked out of the other mech parts that makes the fight infinitely easier. All the End Game gear is so much faster and the Upgrades make the fight a breeze the second time.
nah in a fresh run you get a lot of stuff to make this fight piss easy(shotguns, missile launchers, laser lace, pilebunker, miniguns or explosives)Ibis has a lot of openings but ppl have 0 to none patience even for the most basic things and blame the game/get angry
how are you fighting a boss without hard lock? i can't melee with a hardlock cuz moving the camera is very jittery you can't make small corrections. are you truely using a normal controller
I'm playing with hard lock-on
yes you did it without a hardlock, i recognize this since i beat him without. funny you didn't notice it.@@kage_hunter
@@narkformost867
lol, that is funny, thanks for telling
I never specced into the Manual Aiming in the OS upgrades so I thought how I was playing was with the normal lock-on/hard-lock on
good to know, I suppose that is why I had to move my camera properly when the lock-on went away hence the soft-lock on
i wonder if hard-lock on would have made it easier or harder
@@kage_hunter Hard-lock is better if you're aggressively assault boosting, but soft-lock with camera sensitivity to max will allow for quicker tracking if you know where Ibis is going to be. Won my first time with a soft-lock missile build but use hard-lock for builds that need the AB boost to close.
BRO GODDAMN YOURE SO GOOD
CEL-240 was one of the easiest bosses in the game for me, even though it felt like it should be really hard. The whole moveset just makes sense to me and it clicked really fast. I think its incredibly well designed, all these openings are very intuitive
It has a pattern. Once you memorize where it's going to dash next you can just beat it there and hit it with whatever you want. Of course you get here after learning the boss, so all the genuine experiences against it are already used up.
I wouldn't say it has a pattern so much as it has limited types of attacks. And the patch basically told it "Stop spamming triple blades!". So now it can't spam as bad. But it'll still do what's effective.
For example if you keep it at bay without being too aggressive it uses drones, then to get in close to attempt the triple blade, it does drone wings to low slash. Then if it uses triple blade up close, it immediately backs off to use one of the 4 more ranged attacks since it can't spam triple blade anymore.
At this point I'm positive that it doesn't have a pattern, just limited moves. And it uses those moves in the order of whatever seems like a good idea at the time. So more than likely, it's the players that have a pattern
That was a 5 hit run... sir this is rape, think of the kids watching this. What will they say.
I am a fan of the laser lance into pile bunker into quad leg kick combo myself
That's a solid strong one, makes quick work of this boss
Especially when Moonlight is not even available yet by the time of this battle. Have to make do with a Pile Bunker
I was about to be all "No you get it in this mission!"
But then I remembered you have to *complete* the mission in order to actually start using it.@@Aereto
The very first moment where it tries to barrage-lunge you is an opening. I use the stun needle and songbirds to stagger it immediately
Wow, what’s the build? I feel like I haven’t gotten my AC to move like that
Frame parts are Kasuar legs, Basho arms, C-2000 core, and Alba head. Weapons are pulse blade, Moonlight, and Wueger laser shotgun. The generator is an internal combustion generator (orange booster trail), and booster is likely KIKAKU.
Lore accurate 621
whats with showing your back to the boss so much? is it like dark souls backstep-into-backstab?
this video is great but i hate it because it makes me feel entirely inadequate at this game
Mmm honestly after s ranking all missions, cel is a lot more doable than when I first fought it
beautiful. Mind posting your build?
are you on pc/steam?
5TQRH3GN4U81
@@kage_hunter Can offline players copy AV builds too?
@@kamelakawmada4301 not too sure, i would assume no; did you manage to do it?
@@kage_hunter Yeah its not possible cuz i am unable to connect to the AC database🥲.
@@kamelakawmada4301 if you want i can manually write all the parts
Amazing
So this is what 3000 hours of gameplay looks like?
I love melee builds
Insane
I just wait for that one opening then use a combo to beat the shit out of it.
Too bad the game doesn't let you use that sword after pulling it from the Bonewheel pit until after you kill CEL
except you have ng+ and ng++ content and endings.
@@Ghorda9 If you beat CEL once you can do it again but man I woulda liked to have it on NG for that fight.
Woulda been neat to equip new weapons on the fly but that's DxM's gimmick not AC's.
This is beyond good... are you? Are you a newtype??
pure skill
AC6 combat isn't really as dependant on "openings" as dark souls or elden ring, honestly. You can attack while dodging in most cases it's really more about knowing when the enemy is going to hold still long enough for something to connect. It's kind of an opening, kind of not since you're still avoiding things as it happens.
It's also because you're not just restricted to SWORD
Used to cheese it with bazookas and dual stun needles now i can run whatever and beat it with no heals
The hardest thing about this boss is just getting a hit in, because it feels like it doesn't actually have that much health (in either phase), on my first playthrough I could consistently get to 2nd phase but I'd have no ammo or repair kits left
@@user-lv8dn8gw9z if you can observe it closely it has plenty of openings for you to unload your heavy hitting attacks it has input reading so if you for example tried to spam your gatling guns it'll try to dodge and punish you for it so meaning if you're not patient enough you're actually missing out on a lot of openings and easily punishable attacks
Dudes
Boost into CEL face
Look behind you
Charge up your Pile Bunker
damage
I used the Gatling wheelchair build to finish because I got frustrated getting killed very close to the end a couple times using lance and laser blade. Might need to give this a shot.
Can anyone help me build this AC?
So to beat Ibis you... just don't look at her. Huh. Turns out tunnel vision is what separates the good from the bad.
But where is the build man. Haha nice vid
right arm: Laser Shotgun
left arm: pulseblade and moonlight
head: EL-PH-OO ALBA
core: CC-2000 ORBITER
arms: AA-J 123 BASHO
legs: KASUAR/42Z
booster: KIKAKU
fcs: FC-008 TALBOT
generator: DF-GN-08 SAN-TAI
Can you even have the moonlight blade to be able to fight Cel?
nope, is unlocked after
@@kage_hunter Are you sure? Im like 90% sure that you can equip something you found in a chest once youve found it, and the moonlight sword is this stage, so if you found it and then died on CEL then went to go switch parts in the death menu pretty sure you would be solid.
from what I remember you have to buy it from the shop after@@yungoldman2823
@@kage_hunter You don't gotta, you do get it on that exact mission BUT you have to beat CEL 240 to actually use it
@@yungoldman2823found in a chest right before the boss fight, but you have to actually finish the mission before you get the item
Great gameplay, build?
are you on pc/steam?
id: 5TQRH3GN4U81
are you serious?!?!?! It took me so long to get s ranking againts it! This was actually the hardest S rank, it was even like the third to last one I completed to get the achievement, for some reason I also had a hard time with the Inspection mission and the stupid Vespers (not the worm or the Redguns, the stupid Vespers gave me a hard time)
What was your build?
Whats your build here bro?
I have it in one of the comment chains that is big, someone else also asked before
Wtf... owo
is it differeny ng plus?
it is new game, from what I know nothing changes with ng+ or ng++ for bosses
this is old before the nerf to the bosses though, the boss has less hp and deals less damage with certain attacks now
@@kage_hunter i beat cel 240 before nerf, and after nerf on ng plus seemed harder for me idk
@@ninecloudsuphow much did you change your build?
@@user-lv8dn8gw9z felt as if i was more upgraded and better than my previous build. Most missions were low diff, and i only had to change weapons not body parts for ng++
Now do it without crutchlight
Bro who tf is using moonlight as a crutch
Now if you said zimmermans or the iceworm needle gun I'd agree but this is the first video I've seen of someone using moonlight for ibis
Crutchlight? Moonlight is literally the weakest fucking melee weapon in the game bro get over yourself
Nice build and strategy, but because I have no patience to learn bosses attack patterns and ragequit after three losses, I'm forced to get the Chainsaw from chapter 3 and just copy the chainsaw strat. It's a cool boss fight for those who have the patience and skill to click with it. Personally I think the second phase could use a checkpoint.
Not sure how ppl struggled with this fight. Took me 1 try so easy