Russia's Black October of 1993 | Who Needs Democracy When You Have Tanks?
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- 30 years ago in Russia a full-scale war between the two branches of power - the president and the parliament - was in full swing. It was only by a miracle that this war did not turn into an actual civil war. Boris Yeltsin decided to act harshly and shelled the parliament house with tanks on the morning of October 4, having taken absolute power in Russia into his own hands with this action. How did Russia get to this point? What were both sides fighting for, and could it really have been avoided?
00:00 - Introduction
02:26 - Background
07:03 - How the government was organized before 1993
11:37 - Constitutional crisis
18:31 - What's next and who's to blame?
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For Lenin the Party was everything.
For Yeltsin the party was everything.
LOOOOOOOL. Priceless.
I dont get it. Could you explain? Thanks
@@atouhoufan607 political party vs partying
@@kristoff99 oh, ic
@@atouhoufan607
Yeltsin was known to be an alcoholic even to Russia's low standards and not averse to a party or two.
Of course nothing says 'Respect my authority' like being paralysed by alcohol 50% of the time. Which is one of a lot of reasons why Putin's clique of billionaires, the communists and a few other groups were all fighting for power.
I think it's also important to mention that Yeltsin dissolved the Constitutional court of the Russian Federation after they voted to impeach him after he iligally dissolved parliament.
And then he changed it, but with way less powers and basically controlled by anyone who is in power in the state duma. Aka United Russia party
It’s such a surprise that Yeltsin somehow won in 1996 elections instead of Zyuganov considering the events that followed this incident like the First Chechen War. Спасибо за отличное видео )
To be fair Boris Yeltsin did have a lot of help from the campaign adviser for Bill Clinton
@@aregularperson7573He was also supported by the oligarchs.
There is evidence of election tampering from both Yeltsin and the CIA to prevent Zyuganov from winning
The entire media was controlled by Yeltsin and his oligarchs and they basically made up this threat of a genocidal zyuganov who is going to the great purges and holodomor 2.0
America interferes to literally rig the election in his favor.
I always thought the former USSR would have been better off if they had a Deng-type figure to usher in economic reforms without weakening the political and cultural foundations of the country. Yeltsin is what happens when American white house decides on the president of their former enemy. Plunder.
Well said.
Dumb conspiracy theories won't cover up the fact that the USSR was dead long before 1990.
@@nvelsen1975Tell me why it's dumb
Elensky moment
the fact that yelsin dissolved the parliament and constitutional court and then created a weaker version of them that posed him little threat, while giving the president more power can answer the question on who was right and who was wrong. spoiler: Yelsin was wrong.
The parlament was right. It was a coup, and the ones that send the military surely knew about the snipers. So Yeltsin was to blame.
I'd say you're a bit too soft on Yeltsin. I guess you tried to be "neutral" but it's just a moderate liberal position I would say. Its better to be historical and start from the dissolution of the USSR because that was the root of the problem. The referendum on the fate of the USSR has shown that people wanted the USSR to remain and the people didn't expect the reforms to dismantle the social services and completely destroy the model of ownership of already existing factories. People expected some kind of social democrat government open integrating more market elements. Yeltsin and the people associated with him though wanted full capitalism and no remnants of socialism and many acuse the reformers of making mistakes, but those weren't mistakes. A lot of former state owned enterprises in the USSR were considered collectively owned by the means of the state, so when plans were made to make the market reforms the workers of the facotries expected to get shares of ownership in those enterprises. That's what happened, but the reforms and the breakup of the USSR wrecked the economy and the links between the former republics and people sold their shares for pennies to survive or were strongarmed by crime gangs to sell or just pass them to the new budding mafia boss/businessman (the line was fine and sometimes absent). Also, very strange to call the supreme soviet haters of Russia and opposed to democratic reforms when they were the representative body elected by the people and the monopoly of one party was abolished. They were opposed to the economic reforms and that was the main issue, but liberals always try to make any economic and social debate about freedom, which in their eyes is the freedom of the individual owner to exploit its workers.
Damn the 90s were crazy. I knew they were rough, but never really looked that deep into it. Defo would love to see more vids about the 90s,
-Russia's GDP declined by 40%.
-Inflation reached 2500%.
-Percent of people under 4 USD per day rose from 2% to 30%.
-Life expectancy dropped by 5 years and haven't returned to the pre-dissolution level until a few years ago.
-Bottom 50% share of income declined from 30% to 9% while the upper 10% share doubled from 25% to 55%.
Meanwhile the US was at its absolute peak of prosperity.
@@PrimericanIdol no, 1950-60s America was. The rest of the world was still war torn and rebuilding and generally poor. America was fully intact and had all of its industry, made bank off of that time period. Most prosperous time in recent history (for them).
@@skillfulsteak847 Yes. That too was a peak. But there was a bipolar world order underway. The hegemony wasn't absolute and total like in the 90s and 00s. Now that the multipolar order is emerging, it LOOKS like America is declining fast. It's just that more competitors are emerging faster. During the cold war, there was only ONE major competitor. Now there will be many.
@PrimericanIdol eh, even now, there is only one real competitor. America got stagnant from lack of competition, but even now potential opposition is nowhere near as capable as the ussr. The Warsaw pact would have created a land war comparable to ww2 in scale if not counting nukes. The next up competitor nowadays would just have a naval war over an island. No great international scale, just regional. Same for any other upcomers.
Thank you for covering this topic! He literally predetermined the last 30 years in Russia!🤝
Спасибо, что освещаешь эту тему! Он буквально предопределила последние 30 лет в России!❤️
The bit differentiating yourself from people saying that "On [X Day] Russian Democracy Died" sounds like a jab at people like NFKRZ. Needless to say, I prefer your mostly unbiased and reasonable views, not to mention you at least seem like you are a pleasant person to be around. =)
That dude is beyond pathetic.
As the saying goes: "no one likes russian liberals".
Well, it sounds like a jab at NFKRZ but those who follow my twitter know that a year ago I literally wanted to title my video exactly the same as he did lol. So I'm just salty that he used his dark techniques and somehow stole it from my mind. It was a great title, even if the statement itself is obviously exaggerated.
@@Setarko You still have twitter?
#ConscriptNFKRZ
There was a robbery of Russian economy going on on an unprecedented scale. I recommend googling an interview "Return of Czar" by Wayne Merry, who served as a senior analyst in the US embassy in the early nineties. He gave this interview at the beginning of 2000 and openly criticized the US role in Russian social catastrophe of 1990-s. His description of what was going on is unbelievable. Later on he continued the US government career and stopped giving sympathetic interviews about Russia, but back then he had his human compassion for Russian people. I guess some of the Americans working in Russia in the 90s did mean to help ordinary people, and they were shocked at the central American policy.
So, Wayne Merry stated that the US economists, cunsultants and businessmen created a parallel government structure that was working over the heads of the official democratic structures. It was done in order to maximize the financial benefits for foreign businesses and also to make sure the Russian state loses as much property as possible to the new billionaires, even though Russian people lost all their savings, salaries and faced hyperinflation as a result.
Lots of French cannons were inscribed with “ULTIMA RATIO REGUM”, basically translated as “THE LAST ARGUMENT OF KINGS”
Similar vibes, братан
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Black October 1993 was basically Yelstin's fault. If he had a better economic policy, maybe the parliament and he would sit down and write a new constitution. There were a few people like American lawyer Terry Michael Duncan who tried to save injured people shot by Yelstin's army. I'm not a communist, but I'm actually neutral and somewhat on the side of the parliament.
October 15, 2023 10:19PM
Russia was basically screwed long before the USSR even collapsed. I find it difficult to assign blame to any individual or group of individuals when the Soviet system had left behind such a gigantic mess to be cleaned up.
@@stevej71393 I understand that, although the existence of the Soviet Union was a mistake from the beginning, there is a better solution. "Shock therapy" was completely inappropriate for the Russian economy at that time, Yelstin should do something more slowly.
October 18, 2023 12:49PM
@@stevej71393Ok, what kind of mess are we talking about? The amount of local production factories that had to be dismantled? RF for 30 years of it's existence couldn't even match RSFSR's production levels
@@lilmonixif not for the October Revolution Russia would have been carved up and different parts of it would have been colonies of other countries.
@@stevej71393 h- huh? He shelled the parliment, made the president way too powerful, and killed people, he should be to blame for how Russia is today
As a guy coming from a country who is at a constant patient of "shock therapy", anyone against it is instantly rightto my eyes
Understandable, but this way of thinking can be dangerous, just because the opposition is fighting against one evil does not negate their own evil deeds.
Where are you from?
@@wilsan806 Argentina
@@ShinigamiInuyasha777
The libertarian president candidate wants to adopt the USD as the official currency lol
@@davidstrelec2000 He also talks with his dead dog by a medium
Excellent video! Very educational. 👍👍
Absolutely incredible study and documentary. Thank you so much I really appreciate this.
Small correction @Setarko on the "12th Guards tank regiment" it was actually the 4th Guards tank Division. Also the Taman Division was there. (correction would be that there is no longer a 12th Guards Tank regiment since that regiment was disbanded in 1991.
Just wanted to say thank you for your content :)
Great video ! Thanks for bringing much need context on this event. Before watching the video i had always assumed it was just Yeltsin destroying russian democracy to have more power for himself while the other side just wanting to stop him but now i can see that this was much more complex.
You ride a fine line. Thank you.
Nope not really. It is not a crime in Russia to say that the country is not a democracy. Because our TV says that there's no real democracies today anyway.
New video! Yay!
i am still waiting for someone to make an alternative history on this event, as if what if the Army and the MoD sided with the parliment.
Fantastic comment!!! This is my fav channel on Russia!!!!
Great video, fascinating topic. Would love more about 1990s Russian politics... very foundational for the present moment.
I think you are too soft on Yeltsin. After all 1978 Constitution was heavily amended and was no longer purely communist one - and actually that is pretty normal - Hungary had communist constitution even until 2011, and many former communist countries had their communist constitutions for several years after democratisation. And Constitutional Court and Parliament were constitutional bodies just like the President. And so unconstitutional and violent actions of the President against two other branches of government are highly questionable at least. And moreover parliaments are better safeguard against authoritarianism than single president since they have internal checks and balances, internal opposition, debates and plurality of opinions, while a single person of a president usually does not have any of those.
I had no idea that they used the 1978 constitution until 1993 and that the Supreme Soviet of the Russian Federation also continued. Thank you for the well researched video, but I wish that you would put your sources in the description.
When I was reading Victor Pelevin's Generation P a lot of this was happening in the background. At first I thought it was just part of the psychedelic fever dream that makes up much of the book, and then I learned it was actually referring to these events the whole time. That it didn't get much attention or protest in the West reminds me of when El-Sisi overthrew the new Egyptian government. More people probably died there than at Tiananmen Square but Western media seemed to just regard it as "whoo, that was close". I guess an undemocratic junta was preferable to a democratically elected Muslim Brotherhood.
"democratically elected Muslim Brotherhood". something about that line just don't add up, lol. Last time I checked, Democide is not democracy, lol.
@@Zarcondeegrissomexplain why you think Morsi's government was democidal? Contrary to your beliefs, the coup happened because the undemocratic Middle Eastern states were terrified of the possibility their own citizens will emulate Egyptians and start protesting for democracy. The Middle Eastern authoritarian leaders pressured the Western governments especially the US and UK to give approval to Egyptian military, subsidised by the US, to remove Morsi and nipped any hope of democracy in the Middle East in the bud.
@@hydrolifetech7911 not sure where you coming from, was just pointing out that the Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist group that was never 'elected' into power anywhere. lol.
Muh democracy
@@ZarcondeegrissomBut the USA doesn't like democracy to happen in the middle east. And they support the monarchies(more like traditional dictatorships) that see democracy as a threat. The reason the US doesn't like democracy in the middle east is because they don't want to lose the influence and the oil. So much for "democracy and freedom".
Imagine being a gunner in one of those tanks being told to fire on the House of the Soviets.
I know he didn't have much of a choice, but still I wonder what he was thinking.
Power grows out of a barrel of a gun.
A nation can not just switch towards a democracy especially if it's not in the political culture.
When leaders are used to a certain way of ruling and not open to public debate it just starts to fall apart from the start.
Getting nazis and communists fighting side to side gotta be one of modern russia's most bizarre moments
The politically radicalized people usually know at least something about politics, which means they'd be the first ones to notice that the reforms/society/country are making everything spiral down.
this is the first nazbol meme
@@arifsudarsono3435those are either monarchists or nationalists(think tno shafarevich,tetris tsar,or rodzaevsky),not nazis(tno vagner)
Are we not going to talk about Rutskoy mad drip ?
He and omni man are the guys who inspired me to never shave muh mustache and grow it as big as possible
He looked cool af right after his release ngl
Putin was Jeltsin's man isnt' it?
Ofc yes, the governments policies only changed slightly if did at all. It's the seeds that were sowed by US through direct support of the president of the newly formed RF (and if we delve into conspiracy, probably more than that) that made modern RF what it is. Maybe at some point around 2008 ecocnomic crisis the government/oligarchy decided to be a bit more independent from western capital and officials, but only because they thought that it would give them the bigger share of the profits.
I love the subtle mocking of nfkrz for his clickbait titles.
Its a shame that there were multiple opportunities to create a genuinely beneficial system for all but greed and power lust sabatoged it for the average person time and time again
Happens in many places unfortunately
Its genetics
They wouldn't dismantle a beneficial system to build a beneficial system. It was from the beginning a project of total destruction of society and production, with resources being pillaged and sent out of country and no concern for the millions of lives lost.
I realy took a lot at Black October with the first Album of Radio Tapok which has the song "Black October".
After learning on about the subject, i was surprised on how there was almost nothing on the internet about it.
One thing that i do sometimes while learning some part of our most recent history it to watch previous TV broadcast of the era, i did so with the French/Belgian medias to get a point of view of Black October and it was... weird.
Our medias told the events day to day, and during that period they where saying that Rutskoy and the others parliamentarians wanted to restore the USSR and they weren't democratic, siding with Yeltsin etc..
While I'm not a fan of 93s parliament, I think that Yeltsin certainly acted wrongly
Truly
In Argentina, we doubled the inflation rate and surpassed the 5000% between 1989 and 1990, but we didn't attack the congress with T-80Us tanks, but that would have come in handy.
Maybe you should have
By the way what is your opinion on the new president
Russia really is the ultimate "what if" country, although Argentina it's not far behind...
All amendments to the Constitution made by the Congress of deputies were right and absolutely correct. It wasn't just some chaos. They did as much as they could in order to make a democratic constitution with free market economy. Moreover, there was a special committee inside of the Congress wich was responsible for creating a new Constitution.
What a fascinating documentary - what would have become of Russia had the forces backing Rutskoi succeeded? Would Yeltsin have been removed from power? It is ironic that he was the darling of the West, yet his actions in those days laid the groundwork for what would happen after he left office. I wonder, once he was out of power, did he look at where Putin was taking the country and realise he'd made a dreadful decision in making him his Prime Minister, and therefore his successor? We'll never know.
6:36 is that Gennady Zyuganov?
yes
Yep, actually he also took part in the events. He gave a speech at a rally in front of the Supreme Soviet house and was generally one of the organizers of mass protests in defense of the Congress and the Supreme Soviet. Rutskoy constantly accuses him of "running away" at the most crucial moment.
The fall of the USSR is how a super power falls in the contemporary era. Looking at that, it doesn't surprise one that the January 6th events were seen as so ominous to the US.
I thought that the film was called the hunt for red October not black October
Retired Alfa officers say to this day they do not know who are the Snipers who claimed Gennady Sergeyev's life. But they say they were well trained.
CIA Ground Force, numerous members have come forward since.
You should stop talking about democracy as you seem to mean the legitimate choice between two sides of the same coin every four years like in the west, a coin which only represents the ruling class with very minor factional differences, all in agreement to enrich themselves and plunder everyone else. When you speak of "western democracies", it is deceptive term, it is accurate to say, "western imperial, capitalist countries" as that is an accurate description of how they function.
Did Putin fight during this time to keep the Soviet Union in the KGB? What did he do during this time before Yeltsten handed power to him?
what was the music used in the introduction?
Yeltsin: Drunk in both Vodka and Power.
The '93 Da Da Nyet Da elections referendum was everything but not democratic.
Much more democratic than any Putins elections.
To be fair, newly established political systems tend to be instable.
Немного предвзятый взгляд, но атмосфера неплохая. Треклист есть?
I do wonder what could have been if 1993 went differently.
коллективная власть всегда лучше одного единственного, пусть и неповторимого
Мы писали свою историю,
Кисть обрамляла режим
Красной кровью на белом доме
Под сводом небес голубым,
Где шел чёрный дым!
Have you watched the Adam Curtis TraumaZone documentary?
Only the first two parts of it for now. The format is definitely interesting.
The russian people had absolutely no experience of a democracy until 91. How could they have lived in it? I'm from Hungary, our democracy lasted about 20 years after the system change. It was a good run, all things considered.
Democracy does not exist, never was. You either have an appearance of choice (where your choice doesn't really matter), or the elite behind the curtain already chose for you, and you just merely approve their choice in the ballot.
Although I must add that democracy doesn't exist in big countries of 1mil+, in small communities it can work, and it definitely work in small group of people.
@danielhalachev47141st 2 I can agree with, 2nd 2, I can't.
I didn't know the word democracy meant that oligarchs under the guise of liberalism take over your country and sell off anything that can be sold to corporate overlords that are totally unaccountable. The irony really peaks when you mention 91, the year when the Soviet population voted to preserve the country and then 3 of your democratic heros sign a paper and boom your country is gone. Thanks to people like you, the word democracy has lost all its meaning.
British and American liberalism is a carcer that creates internal problems by mass migration and useless movements like the woke, LGBTQ and the greens, that divides the population.
As a citizen of Romania, this country is a lot safer and does seem a lot freer compared to these "great liberal countries"
Был это российская империч
I don't think it was exactly a "missed chance" to get democracy. What happened is exactly what liberal democracy is all about, it has always been very repressive
ah yes,i do remember when a bunch of challenger 2's shelled the british parliament because candidate x didn't agree with said parliament
@@manolisiatrou5537 they don’t need to do that yet, but they do support that kind of measures in the third world.
Also, some members of the British armed forces were quite willing to stage a coup if Corbyn became prime minister.
@@manolisiatrou5537 Back in the Great Depression, there was a plan to coup FDR's government among the wealthy industrialists he rubbed the wrong way. The only reason why this didn't happen is because those industrialists chose a man with more scruples than they to lead their revolt, Smedley Butler, who immediately ratted them out. FDR gave those industrialists the ultamatum of "get out of my way and I won't have you shot for treason" and that was that. My point in using this example is to show that liberal democracies absolutely can be repressive in nature.
@@manolisiatrou5537 Also, the UK, as the American lapdog it is, has Julian Assange in solitary confinement as a form of torture just because he exposed some crimes of Western imperialism.
Such a thriving democracy
@@manolisiatrou5537The English Commonwealth fell apart due to a power struggle between Parliament and the Executive (Cromwell), almost exactly like with Yeltsin in 1993
И тут играет "RadioTapok". Ну или "Ледовласый Вождь".😏
im confused, so the supreme soviet was essentially the opposition party, but they were appointed by the executive power/parliament?
No, they basically were the parliament elected by the Congress of People's Deputies.
@@Setarkoso the CPD was more like an electoral college for the actual parliament than a real legislative body
Rock, Paper, Scissors. (parliament) Paper (Boris) T A N K
A crazy time for Russia!
Yeltsin brought Russia out of one dictatorship... and brought in another dictatorship, it won't come right away, but it will come. R.I.P Ruslan Khasbulatov.
October 15, 2023 9:57PM
All countries/States are dictatorships. Then, it's a matter of culture, geography, demographics, etc. Of course, an enormous country like Russia, with tons of hostile neighbours, constantly under siege by the West, not to mention complex internal problems, with several different nationalities and ethnic groups, has no other alternative than to ALWAYS be ruled by an iron fist. ALWAYS. It's basic political science.
@@HeathenDance It's not that Russia is hated baselessly, I'm not talking about Ukraine. Let's talk about Vietnam, we used to have a free country, and Soviet Russia provided aid to North Vietnam to invade the South. Now Vietnam has become one of the countries with the worst human rights in the world, not to mention the economy and education. Culture was replaced by things like Leninism, we had to worship Lenin even more than our father. Of course, the West is not innocent, but it is clearly much better than dictatorial countries. I live in Vietnam and know how bad it is.
October 16, 2023 12:57AM
@@HeathenDance Funny stupid propaganda. Russia in 200 years expanded its territorry x-times by fighting against west is constantly blaming west for agression and own faults.
@@lilmonix oh boy you're so clueless and naive about so called western democracies... Its all an illusion.
@lilmonix bro to say the south is free is quite bold literally was revolving door of military juntas
After the US and from the west supported Yeltsin Group decided dissolve the USSR against the will of the majority of the population in Russia the real horror began. In that refendum where the Majority voted for the preservation of the USSR. But than Yeltsin co dissolved the USSR. Millions fall into poverty, free education, healthcare were destroyed basically. Food prices, public transport prices and general costs of living were risung rapidly while the money and the savings of the people lost the value. Other millions lost their jobs and many theire flats too, due to the Shock Therapy and the market reforms. The Shock Therapy ruined the country. On an society level it was a desaster, most people where disillusioned and the solidarity died. On an economic level the Soviet Industry was sold to oligarchs and foreign investors. That's one of the reasons why russian today is so dependent in the Fossil and raw material/natural resources industry. Thats why oligarchy has such a power. The domoctacie only served the use of destroying the Soviet Union ans with it the biggest threat to the so-called "free west"... Yeltsin and his companions including Gorbatschev are the biggest traitors. They not only betrayed the Russian people but all people of the Soviet Union. These Yeltsin US Marionett where the reason million felt into poverty and damnation
It was Gorbachev who dissolved the USSR not Yeltsin
And not everything that happened in Russia is the US fault
@@Shiroya_Rumika It was the US faults, that or a magic genie completed the three wishes of the US government
And now democracy is dying here in America. Looks like Danila in Brother was accurately predicting 30 yrs later.
Glad this tragedy didnt spiral into a civil war
Probably a civil war would have been resolved with less human lives lost, less economic and less infrastructural damage than Yeltsin Russia in the 90's caused. Could also argue the future would've been brighter than whatever Yeltsin's newly appointed president created.
Chechnya ?
15:58
Why didn't Poland or Romania or the Baltic states or really almost all of eastern Europe have this problem? what makes Russia different.
The baltics were largely opposed to the whole Soviet Union thing, so when it fell they smelled opportunity. In Romania Ceacesçu got a game over before he could react to the fall, and I don't really know anything about Poland to be honest
Probably in Russia's case history, size, demographics, and geography Russia basically requires a strong central government or others will get idea thinknit about the closest thing to a modern Roman Empire
They had no Soviet opposition to begin with, or it was very marginal.
Russia has natural resources and nukes, Eastern Europe and the Baltics do not. The US needed to crush any remnants of sovereign political power in Russia (the Supreme Soviet) , and instead establish a convenient and controllable figure at the head of Russia (Yeltsin) in order to take control of the resources and keep tabs on the nukes.
small single nation states. Russia is a Federation of over 80 seperate nationalities and 120 legal administrive regions. Russia also have vast wealth, resources and military infrastructure the entire world was fighting over.
The mysterious snipers were almost certainly CIA Ground Force.
The moment it all went to shit.
Why does he kind of look like Elon Musk 4:10 ?
Yuck Feltsin
Way shat? 😃
@@JosipRadnik1 too alcoholic reminds me of my father and what I am to become.
And people in the west still think that yeltsin is the champion of russian democracy
Corruption in Soviet Union? NO THATS NOT POSSIBLE? Just like now! PUTIN? NO CORRUPTION HERE? HA HA
We just had a black october
Armenian Christians in Artsakh had a "Black September" (lol, I'm not being ironic either) in part, thanks to Azerbaijan and her Allies, Turkey and Israel!
well despite "not being democratic" and having "eternal rule" russia seems to be going off just fine meanwhile we in europe, my country for example, are going thru heavy deindustrialization, my friend in hungary just got layed off because the steel factory he worked at went bankrupt, and i got layed off a year ago during december when i was working in a glass factory (netherlands) meanwhile russia is getting more and more industry and more and more jobs, as it cant rely on the outside world anymore as much as it did before the sanctions, so its forced to, which in turn makes their economy bigger and stronger, so we can see "democratic countries" are losing to "undemocratic countries"
yes buddy,totally.Have you bothered to check whether the people actually benefit from this?
Russia, a country with close to three times the population, has about the same GDP as Italy. Pensions are about 25% of average salary, whilst Italys are around 90%. Life expectancy in Italy is 83 years whilst Russian average is 71 (2019 numbers). The Italians are sucessfully running multiple aircraft carrieres, the Russians can't even manage one.
Or when you want to go with a GDP that takes purchasing power parity into account, you'd still have to comapre it to Germany. Sure Germany is going through hard times having to manage it's deindustrialisation, green transition and a global economic slowdown at once. But they'll most likely manage. Whilst Russia isn't even trying and will be desperate for spare parts for all the german machienes their manufacturing runs on.
Deindustrialisation is a byproduct of an economy getting wealthy. As it's either cheaper to automate or to offshore the work of most low to medium skilled joobs.
A practical tipp, if you or friends are struggling or fear for their (manufacturing) job and you have acess to a computer (even smartphone works), learn how to code. Especially python (easy), Rust (slightly harder, especially if you are impatient), SQL (language is easy, databases can be hard, high value though), Java or C/C-derivates (hardest to learn, but highly requested). Learn how to use git andget some courses in Agile software-developement.
Nearly all high end manufacturing companies in Europe are half software-company by now. Even your damn roomba has an operating system and internet acess.
Russia getting ahead is an illusion, since most western media seth the expectation of the russian economy to implode basically over night. But they are measurably worse off and will be hit hard by decarbonisation.
@@cahdoge"Learn to code" is literally a meme. No sane company will hire a self-taught 40 years-old blue collar man that knows labor laws and has levearage over a guy that just graduated and will work pennies on the dollar because he will starve otherwise
@@cahdogeAh, yes, gdp, the number that really matters. I really hope you at least used the gdp per capita. At the very least.
@@cahdoge "learn to code" are you fkn serious? go tell that the people in the rust belt slums, they are probably to stupid to figure that out themselves. They are just so poor cuz their dumb right? You are the epitome of this western liberal elitism with their worship of meaningless numbers. And I've got news for you: decarbonisation ain't a thing in Russia, or China, or pretty much most of the world. It's a dumb fucking scam, just like your service based economy. Deindustrialisation is just a way for oligarchs to get richer, while 3rd world workers must work in slave conditions, we lose our manufacturing jobs, our cities turn into ruins, living standard keeps declining, quality of products keeps delcining...
"Whilst Russia isn't even trying and will be desperate for spare parts for all the german machienes their manufacturing runs on." They'll get them from China, FOOL.
It's gonna be funny when soon all of the manufacturing turns up in the hands of your enemies. Have fun coding when there's literally nothing to code on, because raw materials for chips come from China and the production is in soon to be chinese Taiwan.
A real chicken and egg scenario
Western shortsightedness brought you:
- Putin
- Resurgence and reimperialism of China
- War criminals dominating WW2 discourse
And much more
Don't forget mass murder of the Palestinian people.
True, I wish China didn’t continuously invade Middle Eastern countries, destabilizing an oil rich region in order to install loyal puppet governments that give China extremely favorable trade deals while displacing populations so that they can be imported for cheap labor
Its easy to blame own faults on west :-)
Gibberish.
@@xsc1000 im not even Russian. My name shows it
Early
Господи от вашего английского, уши скручиваются
Meanwhile the US and the west were laughing, pointing at Russia bumbling on the floor nearly drowning in its own vomit.
How the tables turned.
Using tanks just like the buddy China.
I’m confused, where do you live? Won’t you get arrested for making this video in Russia?
You are victim of western propaganda
As long as he doesn't mention Ukraine or insults Putin he should be fine .
@@belstar1128 We are talking about Russia not about China
Why would you be arrested just for showing historical events?
Why would he be arrested if this is covered in history textbooks in school?
Bring back the USSR! 🚩⚒️
Nah
Nah, Russia is going to inevitably domimate it. Even Yugoslavia with the less dominating Serbs cant survive. As a European state as diverse as that cant really survive
@@naoyanaraharjo4693 all forms of nationalism has to be suppressed. Then it could succeed.
@@martonpapp269it was a cosmopolitant mess of nothingness
@@martonpapp269 cringe
Indonesia and India has nationalism in it. Yet it stayed one. European states dont have the legacy of colonialism/foreign opression to unite people and their descendants. Thats why i say European states not states
Or you could look at the right wing nationalists as authoritarian assholes
and the communists as authoritarian assholes
And suddenly the "interesting" aspect of their cooperation vanishes.
Overall, I'm finding this to be quietly verifying my opinion : government is bad.
The dentist is an a*shole for drilling into your teeth, yes it hurts but when you have a tooth problem you dont go to the candy store to fix it.
All politicians are a*sholes some by nature some because their field of work requires it.
Government is essential and "authoritarian" is relative.
What do you mean by "cooperation"? Fascism and Socialism are completely antithetical to each other.
How could any parliament/Duma elected by universal sufferage be MORE authoritirian than an unelected President who used the military to consolidate all political, military and judicial power under themselves.🙃
4:19 dеfund thе роliсе
4:20 help
😂
Setarko, я пиндос с русской мамой- Обожаю ваш канал.
i recently watched a video entitled “the coming fall of russia” by user whatifalthist, and was wondering if you’ve seen it, and if you agree with its premise (i would presume not from your other videos). if you haven’t seen it i think it’s a good summation of some key metapolitical realities in russia regardless.
Unrelated, but my one criticism of your channel is that you don’t go hard enough against Putin (perhaps for fear of being disappeared etc.). Combing through the statistics on overall national welfare over time re: things like hospital closures and companies started (this is my vague recollection of some of the metrics i was looking at) a few years back really stunned me as to just how utterly the country (obviously the provincials hardest hit) has been ravaged by kleptocracy.
Setarko several times stated his chanel isn't about politics, mostly because he doesn't have much interest speaking about it. His videos focused more on cultural aspects of Russia or things people sometimes get wrong. Making some statement about his personal views about Putin will just not work with rest of Setarko's content, that tries to speak objectively about the topics.
Regardless to Whatifalthist, let's just say he isn't best known for good research or accurate predictions of future events. Most times he cites very outdated sources and theories to back his claims that based on his personal feelings how world works, not backed by objective facts.
People predict the inevitable oming fall of russia every single year for ages. And always manage to find some grounds to base their statements on. Nothing really changes about that.
it is a derogatory term and you should not use it, especially in relation to yourself, it's also somewhat old fashioned, like 'comrade', rarely used today.
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