Italy's WW1 Heavy Machine Gun: FIAT-Revelli Modello 1914

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    Italy was the first major adopter of the Maxim heavy machine gun and had several hundred by 1914 - but wanted to have a domestic design in production as well. The Italian government and military put a lot of resources into the Perino machine gun, but kept it so secret that it was never properly tested and development was very slow. By the time war broke out, the Perino was clearly not ready for field use - and Maxims (along with other foreign designs) were no longer available for commercial sale as production was being taken up by warring nations. This led Italy to adopt a private design of Bethel Revelli in partnership with the FIAT company.
    Adopted as the Modello 1914, Revelli's machine gun was a delayed blowback system with a wedge under mechanical disadvantage holding the bolt closed long enough to safety cycle. Its most unique element was the 50-round mousetrap type box magazine that used 10 independent stacks of 5 rounds each (a 100-round version was also made). This was a very complex magazine to produce, and much more delicate than the other machine gun feed systems in use at the time. The Revelli is also notable for being the only major machine gun of the period to have a circulating water jacket, operated by a small hand-cranked pump on the condensing tank.
    The FIAT-Revelli would see service as both and aircraft and ground gun through World War 1, and was updated in 1935 to an air cooled pattern that would serve through World War 2. These guns are very scarce in the United States today, and I am grateful to the collector who owns this one for providing access to it!
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  • @jayno5122
    @jayno5122 3 роки тому +161

    Revellli: “Now I just need to figure out the magazine...”
    *Spots the cheese grater in the kitchen*

    • @frog7362
      @frog7362 3 роки тому +4

      E

    • @MrEvan312
      @MrEvan312 Рік тому +7

      Diogenes bursts into the kitchen and grabs the cheese grater as he's thinking this
      "Behold, a MAGAZINE!"

  • @5anjuro
    @5anjuro 3 роки тому +757

    Firearms historians: drum magazines are complicated, expensive and unreliable.
    Italians: nervous smiles and looking away.

    • @CaptainGrief66
      @CaptainGrief66 3 роки тому +92

      That magazine is probably more reliable than a Drum, you don't have a single overworked spring nor over stressed feed lips as it's all duplicated.

    • @z3r0_35
      @z3r0_35 3 роки тому +23

      @@CaptainGrief66 Yeah. The issues are instead related to the feed mechanism.

    • @randomidiot8142
      @randomidiot8142 3 роки тому +8

      @@CaptainGrief66 the over stressed spring and feed lips don't seem like they're the problem, considering other designs that we consider to be reliable today. Poor engineering and metallurgy of the time?

    • @litenantjv
      @litenantjv 3 роки тому +24

      @@z3r0_35 the problem it’s similar to the Chauchat’s magazine had : mud, dust, snow were the enemy of this magazine

    • @z3r0_35
      @z3r0_35 3 роки тому +3

      @@litenantjv That too

  • @la-zrider2749
    @la-zrider2749 3 роки тому +1159

    Italian government: "So, does this machinegun use clips or magazines?"
    FIAT: "Yes."

    • @Ungeboren1988
      @Ungeboren1988 3 роки тому +77

      Now each magazin would have been filled with a tiny 5 round belt for completion of the "Use all the systems" achievment

    • @stanleylutherson17
      @stanleylutherson17 3 роки тому +72

      So...... The true High capacity clipazine?

    • @falloutghoul1
      @falloutghoul1 3 роки тому +12

      Breda, 20 years later:

    • @NatsuKashi00
      @NatsuKashi00 3 роки тому +16

      High-capacity harmonica magazines?

    • @davideb.4290
      @davideb.4290 3 роки тому +11

      That's what they mean when they say "100 clips magazine"

  • @charlesfisher3983
    @charlesfisher3983 3 роки тому +262

    Italian military: “I see you went closed bolt for increased accuracy”
    Revelli with his ten pound bolt and gigantic striker assembly: “well...yes but actually...no”

  • @spider_sf
    @spider_sf 3 роки тому +246

    4:26 "Revelli designed this himself, possibly under the influence of something"
    Must have been some good stuff to come up with that calamity of a magazine.

    • @Rico_71
      @Rico_71 3 роки тому +39

      I'm guessing several bottles of red wine were involved. As an italian most crazy ideas come up with that "method"

    • @CaptainGrief66
      @CaptainGrief66 3 роки тому +12

      Wouldn't call it a calamity since it worked.

    • @charlesadams1721
      @charlesadams1721 3 роки тому +18

      @@CaptainGrief66 It seems that there was a general idea that not only the Italians, but the French with the Hotckiss and the Japanese with the Hotchiss derivatives and others to try alternates to the problematic cloth belts. At the level of industrial development of the day, disintegrating link belts while known in concept were not really an option. Ian has previously spoken about the numerous problems with cloth belts, so it is natural that designers would come up with options to resolve the issues. BTW, the idea of box magazines had been known and successfully executed by Lee in the United States since the mid to late 1800s, but again the level of industrial technology and production pretty much made the idea of the production of thousands or millions of reliable disposable magazines almost as much of an technological undertaking as many firearms. Note that inially the British Lee-Enfield chained the magazine to the rifle.
      In the case of Italian machine guns there were several other designs that took great pains to find alternatives to use of belts, such as the expansion on the idea of stripper clips and feed strips. See the various Breda machine guns of WWII.

    • @Marcellogo
      @Marcellogo 3 роки тому +7

      @@CaptainGrief66 And it worked well as it allowed to put a clip after the other.
      When the metallic belts became finally available they changed it into the model 35, with air cooled barrel and 8 mm ammo.

    • @TheAssassin409
      @TheAssassin409 3 роки тому +7

      if it works, it aint stupid

  • @rasheverak
    @rasheverak 3 роки тому +695

    Well it certainly wins the “longest bolt” award.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 роки тому +23

      That of the Hotchkiss was longer.

    • @daazs9248
      @daazs9248 3 роки тому +58

      it doubles as a trench club

    • @michaelfinnegan4301
      @michaelfinnegan4301 3 роки тому +8

      Well then, that makes two of us! 😁

    • @jimmykool3253
      @jimmykool3253 3 роки тому +25

      It’s not about the length is how you use it lol

    • @Seb-Storm
      @Seb-Storm 3 роки тому +4

      I remember there was this upscaled gun like 37mm which bolt was really big like a giant bullet

  • @MadNumForce
    @MadNumForce 3 роки тому +258

    That "TORINO" happens only once in a decade. I feel so lucky to have witnessed it.

  • @anoninunen
    @anoninunen 3 роки тому +442

    Ah yes, the legendary 20-stack, 20-feed magazine. The simplest method.

    • @CaptainGrief66
      @CaptainGrief66 3 роки тому +11

      Magazines were unreliable or limited and cumbersome, this was a perfect solution.

    • @UTubeHandlesSuck
      @UTubeHandlesSuck 3 роки тому +17

      @Co S Well, the 100-round did have 20 stacks of 5.

    • @cnlbenmc
      @cnlbenmc 3 роки тому +8

      So now we know where the inspiration for the Bastard SMG from Metro 2033 comes from.

    • @micahdadbeh5955
      @micahdadbeh5955 3 роки тому +1

      @@cnlbenmc I kind of seeing it being more based on a Sten being matched with a clip system

    • @Bustin_cider00
      @Bustin_cider00 3 роки тому +4

      @@cnlbenmc that was inspired by the Hotchkiss M1909 Benét-Mercié machine gun

  • @allensteiner1
    @allensteiner1 3 роки тому +728

    And suddenly a well known sentence: 'My Fiat is overheating' changes in meaning a bit.

    • @Rico_71
      @Rico_71 3 роки тому +28

      I'm keeping this in mind when driving my '71 fiat500... i'll be chuckling the whole drive lol

    • @gestaposantaclaus
      @gestaposantaclaus 3 роки тому +16

      @@Rico_71 I have a FIAT sportster, *it is* an Italian sports car, shuddup!

    • @Rico_71
      @Rico_71 3 роки тому +5

      @@gestaposantaclaus is it the 124 convertible? That's actually a lovely, fun car

    • @dionjaywoollaston1349
      @dionjaywoollaston1349 3 роки тому +3

      I thought fiat’s were well known for their reliability?

    • @wumao6885
      @wumao6885 3 роки тому +27

      @@dionjaywoollaston1349 they're reliably unreliable.

  • @Heidegaff
    @Heidegaff 3 роки тому +239

    Ian: "Bwonjorno"
    Me: *Brad Pitt speaking italian flashbacks*

  • @Derrick_Campana
    @Derrick_Campana 3 роки тому +453

    So instead of just stealing the maxim's design, FIAT just huffed glue for a few hours and built a gun out of legos.

    • @CaptainGrief66
      @CaptainGrief66 3 роки тому +57

      And it worked perfectly well and wasn't stupidly complicated.

    • @Derrick_Campana
      @Derrick_Campana 3 роки тому +26

      @@CaptainGrief66 That's cause they used legos and not mega blocks

    • @kameronjones7139
      @kameronjones7139 3 роки тому +4

      @Frank Bear he said what he said

    • @kameronjones7139
      @kameronjones7139 3 роки тому +9

      @Frank Bear oh you are one of those types of people....

    • @Cacowninja
      @Cacowninja 3 роки тому +1

      This was before legos were even invented lol.

  • @francocalini641
    @francocalini641 3 роки тому +244

    Hi Ian, I'm so happy you made this video on my Granpa machinegun ! he was a young captain in WWI, heading a company of "mitraglieri" - machine-gunners - from the Volturno regiment, at the Solstice Battle on river Piave, around June 20th, 1918, and these were his guns ! He ended up being hit by a german Schwarzlose that "chewed up" his right arm, 11 bullets in it.He fell out of tne machin-gun nest into river Piave, where he was collected later that night by 2 Alpenjagers and sent to a german hospital, and from there to a POW camp on Balaton lake in Hungary, where an hingarian surgeon saved his right arm from gangrene...
    Thanks, really ! Franco

    • @liammeech3702
      @liammeech3702 3 роки тому +1

      Did he use a Villar perosa?

    • @francocalini641
      @francocalini641 3 роки тому +29

      @@liammeech3702 no, by far Fiat Mod. 1914 was THE heavy machine-gun, mainly used on tripods in fixed positions - remember, WW1 in Italy was a "static" war, not just in the plain, but also on the Alps - the front was up to 3000 m and above...

    • @rickt7425
      @rickt7425 3 роки тому +10

      Unbelievable, my grandfather also commanded a mitr’ squad as a maresciallo in WWI seeing active service in the alps. I’ve a photo somewhere

    • @rickt7425
      @rickt7425 3 роки тому +7

      found the photo and with a little research the machine guns are the French St. Étienne Mle 1907

    • @LifeisGood762
      @LifeisGood762 3 роки тому +2

      Wow, what a story. Thanks for sharing.

  • @philips.5563
    @philips.5563 3 роки тому +147

    Having a decent mustache forgives a lot of mistakes when speaking Italian.

    • @blackidna
      @blackidna 3 роки тому +9

      Scusi, bada de bupi?

    • @alvarohernani6645
      @alvarohernani6645 3 роки тому +9

      @@blackidna Peter, what are you doing?

    • @jakerubino3233
      @jakerubino3233 3 роки тому +6

      You have it wrong, that’s the French you think of. For us Italians, it only requires liberal hand emphasis!

    • @jeroylenkins1745
      @jeroylenkins1745 3 роки тому +9

      Italian is 40% gestures and facial expressions anyway.

    • @jakerubino3233
      @jakerubino3233 3 роки тому +2

      @Graham Stewart have you seen how narrow the streets are there, understandably lol. Glad my family emigrated to the land of wide lanes and kangaroos

  • @tocsa120ls
    @tocsa120ls 3 роки тому +69

    The M1 Garand clip makes a nice *ding* when ejected. I expect this mousetrap to make a chord. Or possibly the sound of me dropping my toolbag.

  • @douro20
    @douro20 3 роки тому +53

    Yes, FIAT made guns. They also made tanks, missiles, aircraft, aircraft engines and advanced aerospace components (the aerospace business is now Avio SpA).

    • @pkre707
      @pkre707 8 місяців тому +3

      FIAT was to Italy what Samsung is to South Korea.

  • @lukaszpokoju
    @lukaszpokoju 3 роки тому +228

    Ah the Fiat Revellis !
    The "Jackhammer bolt" series of machine-gun.

  • @calvingreene90
    @calvingreene90 3 роки тому +78

    You got to give him credit for solving the problem with sealing the barrel to the water jacket connection when the gun was firing.

  • @joey243win
    @joey243win 3 роки тому +221

    Italian machine gun Corp collar badges actually showed if you were a fiat or maxim gunner Grazie gun guru

    • @sakelaine2953
      @sakelaine2953 3 роки тому +10

      That's very cool

    • @huasohvac
      @huasohvac 3 роки тому +39

      Of course they did. Leave it to the Italians to make it a fashion statement denoting what gun you crew

    • @TurtleStranger
      @TurtleStranger 3 роки тому +6

      I like it

    • @joey243win
      @joey243win 3 роки тому +9

      @@womble321 was a ww1 weapon only pretty much ....just snow and ice there

    • @joey243win
      @joey243win 3 роки тому +7

      @@huasohvac uniforms by Versace lol

  • @rotwang2000
    @rotwang2000 3 роки тому +226

    Ah, when guns had more parts than a movie based on Tolstoy.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 роки тому +23

      This MG has very few parts actually, even by modern standards. They are big. Like any industrial tool design of the time.

    • @juhomaki-petaja
      @juhomaki-petaja 3 роки тому +11

      I think this has pretty few parts. And design is kind clever.

    • @theofficialsikris
      @theofficialsikris 3 роки тому

      @@juhomaki-petaja Clever maybe, but it doesn't disguise the fact that this thing is a kludge.

    • @juhomaki-petaja
      @juhomaki-petaja 3 роки тому +1

      @@theofficialsikris Yes but it is 100y system.

  • @gjgaming2133
    @gjgaming2133 3 роки тому +203

    Im not here for guns; I'm here for Ian's italian pronunciation

    • @hitmonkey2984
      @hitmonkey2984 3 роки тому +13

      One's informative, they're both entertaining

    • @tommyvega7948
      @tommyvega7948 3 роки тому +8

      His Italian pronunciation is pretty good, he does his research. For example he pronounces Franchi and Brescia correctly, where most English speakers would get them wrong

    • @gjgaming2133
      @gjgaming2133 3 роки тому +2

      @@tommyvega7948 yea i was surprised! He did a not bad job

    • @StempiaProductions
      @StempiaProductions 3 роки тому +2

      I still remember the "moscietto 91" 😅

    • @gjgaming2133
      @gjgaming2133 3 роки тому +1

      @@StempiaProductions that was a classic. Felt closer to my heritage in that video

  • @inconel7185
    @inconel7185 3 роки тому +91

    "Oh, that's not smoke, it's steam. Steam from the FIAT Revellis we're having."

    • @BROTRRer
      @BROTRRer 3 роки тому +23

      I thought we were having Maxims

    • @inconel7185
      @inconel7185 3 роки тому +21

      Oh no no no, Revellis, it's a North-italian dialect.

    • @philllax1719
      @philllax1719 3 роки тому +10

      In this part of the country?

    • @inconel7185
      @inconel7185 3 роки тому +10

      At this part of the war?

    • @ulvschmidt7174
      @ulvschmidt7174 3 роки тому +10

      @@inconel7185 localised entirely toothe italian automitive plant in torino

  • @Jootunn
    @Jootunn 3 роки тому +25

    My great grandfather earned a silver medal of valor with one of these at the pass of Montello.

  • @davidcool5189
    @davidcool5189 3 роки тому +136

    Taking box magazines to a whole new level.

    • @nonamesplease6288
      @nonamesplease6288 3 роки тому +5

      Hey, we're probably gonna be fighting in the Alps, so let's invent a totally unique, untested block magazine!
      Si, si!

    • @Ashfielder
      @Ashfielder 3 роки тому +15

      Not a box magazine, a box of magazines

    • @UTubeHandlesSuck
      @UTubeHandlesSuck 3 роки тому

      @@Ashfielder Wouldn't that be the case he showed, a box of blocks?

    • @skyflier8955
      @skyflier8955 3 роки тому

      Not box magazines, crate magazines.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 роки тому

      @@nonamesplease6288 There were tested 50 rounds magazines at the time?

  • @dragonbutt
    @dragonbutt 3 роки тому +13

    I absolutely adore that magazine design. Its like the idea of belts just completely baffled them but the wine cases they had in the design room helped them out. No belts. No drums. Cases. Because shells and wine bottles are pretty similar.

  • @julesdauphin2946
    @julesdauphin2946 3 роки тому +37

    italy: its top secret the enemy cannot find out about it"
    *Is never used in battle because it is top secret*

    • @ChristianMcAngus
      @ChristianMcAngus 3 роки тому +6

      The French had a similar problem with the Mitralleause in the Franco-Prussian War. At same point, secrecy becomes counter-productive.

    • @andrewallason4530
      @andrewallason4530 3 роки тому +2

      And the seppos with the stabiliser on the Sherman tank. SOOO Top Secret that we can’t even train the gunner how to use it, so nobody ever did ( apart from the Brits) , which then stuffed up the potential for it to have been one on the most effective and accurate tank guns in WW2

  • @MD-gb2nf
    @MD-gb2nf 3 роки тому +90

    finaly I understand how this meme of a clipazine works, thank you

    • @lovecraftcat
      @lovecraftcat 3 роки тому +7

      Yeah, not too dissimilar to an assault glockazine

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/2SwNqvUZSW8/v-deo.html 3D working

  • @arkadeepkundu4729
    @arkadeepkundu4729 3 роки тому +30

    _Wait, let me get my 1914 vintage Fiat out of the garage._
    *Wow, that must be a really expensive car?*
    _Haha, yes. Car_

  • @jean-lucpicard3012
    @jean-lucpicard3012 3 роки тому +58

    You see... If by some ill-gotten means I got my hands on one I'd have to mount it on a fiat 500

    • @seculartapes
      @seculartapes 3 роки тому +5

      A lambretta with a side car!

    • @newperve
      @newperve 3 роки тому +1

      @Hydin Biden Drive offensively!

    • @elloo98
      @elloo98 3 роки тому +1

      Just make shure that it's one of the original 500's with the canvas roof. Just because you have a pintle-mounted machine gun on your car doesn't mean that you have to live with a huge hole in the roof.

  • @Ashfielder
    @Ashfielder 3 роки тому +48

    If battles were determined by the coolness of either side’s weapons, Italy wouldn’t have had to do battle on the Isonzo so many times.

    • @universal1014
      @universal1014 3 роки тому +4

      Yea because the Austro Hungarians would have won the first time

    • @carta8399
      @carta8399 3 роки тому +2

      @@universal1014 But they lost in Vittorio Veneto in the end, so: "il Piave mormorava....."

    • @federicorampin3300
      @federicorampin3300 3 роки тому +1

      @@carta8399 il piave lo straniero non lo ha attraversato

    • @carta8399
      @carta8399 3 роки тому

      @@federicorampin3300 precisamente

  • @buwaya4223
    @buwaya4223 3 роки тому +200

    This has to go to C&Rsenal. Probably needs work though.

  • @benjitruth8101
    @benjitruth8101 3 роки тому +23

    This is one of the coolest guns mechanically ive ever watched you disassemble. Thanks for bringing it to us

  • @HalfLifeExpert1
    @HalfLifeExpert1 Рік тому +5

    The just released game Isonzo brought me here. I used this in my first play session and wondered "What the hell kind of feed system is this?". I at first I thought it was just 5x 10 cartridge strips on top of each other. Now that I know, wow, just wow.

  • @thatoneguy22
    @thatoneguy22 3 роки тому +6

    It is absolutely insane to see how exquisitely this entire gun is machined. From the action cover, the bolt, the barrel/locking block assembly, all the little details that are so intricately made. All done on manual machines, one step at a time, across a factory's battery of machine tools. I love it.

    • @vos2693
      @vos2693 8 місяців тому

      Looks like it was inspired by Mauser C96

  • @magnusiversen4759
    @magnusiversen4759 3 роки тому +90

    I hope Othais and Mae at C&Rsenal will get their hands on this.

    • @jakraziel
      @jakraziel 3 роки тому +6

      Agreed this thing has to have a heck of a story.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 роки тому +14

      They have yet to upload the clip on the Villar-Perosa despite Othais literally snatched the gun from Ian's hands more than a year ago, so I'm not holding my breath.

    • @joemontgomery6658
      @joemontgomery6658 3 роки тому +2

      Neutron Alchemist I’m sure there’s a pretty large back log

    • @SearTrip
      @SearTrip 3 роки тому +3

      @@neutronalchemist3241 He has to be able to get to another Villar Perosa for disassembly to make the episode. They were only able to fire the one very briefly at the auction house.

    • @Justice-ian
      @Justice-ian 3 роки тому

      I'm not sure what happened to their page. I visited to look for this MG, and (while they still have some Italian guns) I can't find their Italian playlist.

  • @jaimieoxford8212
    @jaimieoxford8212 3 роки тому +35

    To help with your Italian, when you see a double consonant the double L in Revelli you pronounce it with emphasis on the vowel before the double consonant and the double consonant is longer eg. re vELLi. Similar to stressing consonants in English. Hope this helps keep it up, great work !!!!

  • @hendriktonisson2915
    @hendriktonisson2915 3 роки тому +2

    Finally a more in-depth video on this unique and iconic Italian machine gun! To my knowledge this is the only video on the web that shows the disassembly of the FIAT-Revelli M1914.

  • @KomradeLeonski
    @KomradeLeonski 3 роки тому +82

    Why do I get a feeling Othais and Mae are lined up next to do a video with the gun?

    • @umjackd
      @umjackd 3 роки тому +8

      I hope so!

    • @joey243win
      @joey243win 3 роки тому +4

      Please!!!!

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 роки тому +11

      They have yet to upload the one on the Villar-Perosa despite Othais literally snatched the gun from Ian's hands more than a year ago, so I'm not holding my breath.

    • @seculartapes
      @seculartapes 3 роки тому +3

      Was just thinking the same thing!

    • @nonamesplease6288
      @nonamesplease6288 3 роки тому

      Yes, let's get it in the whitebox.

  • @epluribusunum5318
    @epluribusunum5318 3 роки тому +13

    This is actually no where near as complicated as I thought it would be. For a WW1 machine gun that's surprising.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 роки тому +1

      Mind that's a scaled up action originally made for a pistol (the will-be Glisenti 1910), and it's still used on the FN Fifty-seven and Ruger 57.

  • @gestaposantaclaus
    @gestaposantaclaus 3 роки тому +79

    I wanna put this on my Fiat. Greatest technical ever.

    • @exoticnerf7323
      @exoticnerf7323 3 роки тому +5

      That thing probably weighs half of a fiat 500 including ammo, water and water cooling system.

    • @kawbmxful
      @kawbmxful 3 роки тому +7

      You could prolly get away with the 500L Crossover

    • @jakerubino3233
      @jakerubino3233 3 роки тому +3

      124 would be perfect 😉

    • @masterimbecile
      @masterimbecile 3 роки тому

      Mama mia that's the most Italian thing ever. All it needs now is firing spaghetti out the front.

    • @williestyle35
      @williestyle35 3 роки тому +2

      Doesn't fiat still make commercial trucks?

  • @ogscarl3t375
    @ogscarl3t375 3 роки тому +7

    I am honestly so fascinated by Italy in world war 1 such a unique and interesting military during that time period and the guns they used are nothing short of good looking or pretty slick.

  • @Sh-epard
    @Sh-epard 3 роки тому +44

    Buongiorno to you, Gun Jesus!🇮🇹

  • @zacharyrollick6169
    @zacharyrollick6169 2 роки тому +6

    This is actually impressively rugged and simplistic for the era. I'm almost confident that I could detail strip and reassemble it without instructions.

    • @ulissedazante5748
      @ulissedazante5748 2 місяці тому

      Here in Italy there is an old movie with an officer explaining the basic use of the FIAT-Revelli in Sicilian dialect to recruits that barely understand Italian and don't know how to read a manual.
      The scene was inspired by true stories, in the poor and still largely underschooled Italy just 55 years from unification.

  • @benson7748
    @benson7748 3 роки тому +128

    "in scioltezza" like we say in italy

  • @derekbowbrick6233
    @derekbowbrick6233 3 роки тому +27

    So that pressure valve is just a built in espresso maker.

    • @aciddream2866
      @aciddream2866 3 роки тому +4

      Ur joking but it might have been done.

    • @terry7907
      @terry7907 3 роки тому +1

      What do you mean “just”?

  • @timcampbell4338
    @timcampbell4338 3 роки тому +5

    You know it’s Italian when it’s been 6 minutes and we’re still talking about the magazine

  • @CaptainGrief66
    @CaptainGrief66 3 роки тому +30

    A very underappreciated weapon for how good it actually was, it earned the nickname "La Gloriosa 1914", it was by far one of the simpler, most cost effective and user friendly Machine Guns of the period alongside the Hotchkiss M1914, plus the FIAT-Revelli was easily serviceable if problems occured, the water circulation system is a really cool touch.
    Also I love how these things look and operate, it's unique.

    • @lucacali8423
      @lucacali8423 3 роки тому +3

      Caro OtakuComrade, dopo anni di visione dei video di Ian apprezzo la tua fedeltà nel commentare positivamente le nostre armi. È sempre un piacere.

    • @CaptainGrief66
      @CaptainGrief66 3 роки тому +2

      @@lucacali8423
      Il piacere è il mio, se c'è credito da dare ai progettisti è il caso di farlo

    • @lucacali8423
      @lucacali8423 3 роки тому +4

      @@zoiders tell me seriously what would be the problem with that gun. The only that I can truly be worried of is the lenght and exposure of the bolt, that can be gunked stuck in with debris. Otherwise, it appears slimmer than a Maxim and the loading system, altough strange, isnt actually prone to malfunction, at least at the same level as of a ammo belt made out of fucking cloth

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 роки тому +6

      @@zoiders Are you abvle to point out any real problem with this design?

    • @CaptainGrief66
      @CaptainGrief66 3 роки тому +6

      @@zoiders
      Everyone clearly hasn't taken an honest look at the amount of parts, pins, machined screws and leaf springs inside a common Maxim gun, if you compare them honestly, you'll see how much more sensible the Revelli is.
      It has a delaying system and operates like a more modern weapon, a Maxim on the other hand has a rotating sprocket with gears and levers to index the belts, the bolt has action levers and a sliding interface that picks casings from the belts and pushed them to the chamber simultaneously while also laying spent shells on the ejection chute on some models, even the trigger is a mess of levers on those guns, not to mention how maxims have both locking blocks and are toggle locked.

  • @merpius
    @merpius 3 роки тому +4

    The mechanism for this is pretty beautiful. I don't think anyone would want to be in the mud fighting with it, but it is beautiful.

  • @lubossoltes321
    @lubossoltes321 3 роки тому +3

    Wow, that magazine system is amazing ... there's nothing preventing the system to work with larger or smaller magazines other than weight ....

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 роки тому +2

      Actually there was no real problem with the 100 rds magazines. They were not used on the field because they had no real advantages (while a damaged magazine meant to discard 100 rounds instead of only 50). Even a 200 rds circular magazine was experimented for aerial use. i1.wp.com/www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Fiat-magazine.jpg?resize=1024%2C567&ssl=1

  • @tonyneo6100
    @tonyneo6100 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you , good to see it for real. vbbsmyt has very good animations of this gun.

  • @XMarkxyz
    @XMarkxyz 3 роки тому +4

    Wow, this must be rare outside of Italy; would be nice to see it shooting. Fun fact: the original manual recommends to lubricate with olive oil, which is the most italian thing I could think of, and I'm Italian
    p.s.: you forgot a double l in "modello"

  • @jobnoy
    @jobnoy 3 роки тому +8

    Love the engineering on this one, weird or not it is certainly well made and very cool.

  • @randomidiot8142
    @randomidiot8142 3 роки тому +10

    Looks like they offered a reward for using a bayonet as a firing pin.

  • @andremonta2004
    @andremonta2004 3 роки тому +40

    I waited for my Entire Life for a video of the Revelli machine gun review by you
    THANK YOU SO MUCH❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • @hendriktonisson2915
      @hendriktonisson2915 3 роки тому +4

      I know what you mean. There's not too many information available on the web about the Italian machine guns of the World Wars.

  • @nou1178
    @nou1178 3 роки тому +13

    Another cool piece of history! It's always interesting to see such examples of early mass production machine-guns.
    Also, your Italian isn't as bad as you think, Ian; just a bit rugged.
    Great job!

  • @DementiaGaming69420
    @DementiaGaming69420 2 місяці тому +1

    I love how Ian says “Bonjourno” like Lieutenant Aldo Raine when he talks about Italian weapons.

  • @Ethnarches
    @Ethnarches 3 роки тому +8

    Always great to see videos on Italian small arms as my father is Italian and they made some interesting and different firearms like this one. I didn't realize before how different it is to the other HMGs, as on the outside it looks similar to all of the other water cooled HMGs.

  • @SaucyAlfredo
    @SaucyAlfredo 3 роки тому +15

    The mythical “Clipazine”

  • @PsychoDad89
    @PsychoDad89 3 роки тому +7

    Revelli while developing the gun: We're gonna need a bigger bolt

  • @adamdubin1276
    @adamdubin1276 3 роки тому +2

    I know Othias at C&Rsenal has been wanting to get one of those for demonstration purposes for a while now... hopefully when things calm down a bit he can get one and the rest of us can get an even more in depth look at the history of this thing. The Revelli Modello 1914 and the St. Etienne Mle 1907 are two of my favorites if only for the oddity of their design.

  • @broomhandle3700
    @broomhandle3700 3 роки тому +1

    This is exactly the kind of mechanical ingenuity/absurdity that draws me to these old guns. I'm quite envious of you, Ian, for being able to handle and "explore" these old pieces. You really do have my dream job.

  • @hosank
    @hosank 3 роки тому +5

    3:05 “I want to talk about it’s quirky features” - me waiting to hear he Doug score on this gun

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder4376 3 роки тому +3

    This thing has Steam Punk written all over it with its external reciprocating bolt and magazine design. Different enough to be quirky and cool.
    Hopefully Othais and Mae at C&Rsenal will get to this Machine Gun soon. Would be interesting to get the full story and a shooting segment on this weapon.

    • @CaptainGrief66
      @CaptainGrief66 3 роки тому

      These look amazing, also very reliable

  • @Ealsante
    @Ealsante 3 роки тому +1

    You know your design is bananas when Ian stumbles when even trying to describe it.

  • @nicolatesla9429
    @nicolatesla9429 3 роки тому +2

    Type 11 LMG: "I have a very unusual feed system!"
    FIAT-Revelli Mod.14: "Hold my Amaretto..."

  • @Arkeo36
    @Arkeo36 3 роки тому +5

    The amount of creativity and ingenuity on display in these early 20th century weapons (and other machines too) is frankly incredible. Can you imagine how smart these guys were compared to the average person, then or nowadays? I think it would take a NASA spacecraft engineer to come close today in terms of the innovation needed just to make the finished product.

  • @toiletpapermerchant9310
    @toiletpapermerchant9310 3 роки тому +16

    Doug DeMuro: "Did someone say quirky features?"

    • @hendriktonisson2915
      @hendriktonisson2915 3 роки тому

      Last year Ian even started some video similarly do Doug saying: "This is a ....". Unfortunately I can not remember what exact video that was.

    • @terranempire2
      @terranempire2 3 роки тому

      Doug is the kinda guy to get referenced in Gun Jesus videos.

  • @shreks_loins3963
    @shreks_loins3963 3 роки тому +4

    That would be a nightmare to field clean, especially considering how the bolt is essentially open to the elements, the magazine thing is filled with openings for dirt and grime and just how over complicated this damn thing is. All of that aside, this weapon is essentially a piece of art. I cannot imagine how much this thing would cost to machine and produce today.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 роки тому +2

      Actually that action is simple even by modern standards (it's a scaled up pistol action, still used in the FN Fiftyseven and Ruger 57). In WWI only the Hotchkiss was simpler.
      The magazine is actually cleaner than a cloth belt and, as any magazine, it doesn't actually enter into the gun. The bolt only picks up the top cartridge.

  • @bigredjeepyj3436
    @bigredjeepyj3436 3 роки тому +3

    I genuinely did not want this episode to end. Great story and explanation. Thanks, Ian.

  • @anan0moose
    @anan0moose 3 роки тому +10

    The out of battery safety also appears to double as the auto-sear.

    • @wraithwyvern528
      @wraithwyvern528 3 роки тому

      I believe AKs and SVDs also have a similar dual nature thing which also led to import issues with SVDs when ATF thought that the out battery safeties on SVDs were auto sears or something like that, I think Ian has a video on that

  • @ClaudioLoc
    @ClaudioLoc 3 роки тому +3

    *Ian disassembles the FIAT Ravelli*
    Gun owner “Ian re-assembly the gun, we’re gonna sell it”
    Ian “Arrivederci”

  • @M.M.83-U
    @M.M.83-U 3 роки тому +1

    Wonderful!
    Just a little note, the m14/35 was in 8x59 Breda.

  • @parabellum_arms
    @parabellum_arms 3 роки тому +5

    It seems like a giant Glisenti both in terms of how it operates and how that action is assembled.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 роки тому +1

      The designer is the same infact.

    • @gregoryfilin8040
      @gregoryfilin8040 3 роки тому

      Since its the same designer, I'm not surprised. I AM surprised by how sturdy it looks.

  • @flyingninja1234
    @flyingninja1234 3 роки тому +6

    I first thought, that’s a really nifty ammunition feeding system. I then thought that is not a good idea for muddy trench warfare.

    • @Marcellogo
      @Marcellogo 3 роки тому +2

      No, it was actually better than CLOTH belts. They were kept in a wooden box until use so they came in clean.
      It worked and that was a catastrofe in longer term as it made them keep on with similar solution in WWII when they were totally outdated.

    • @flyingninja1234
      @flyingninja1234 3 роки тому

      @@Marcellogo I see.

    • @seanhall8686
      @seanhall8686 3 роки тому

      @@Marcellogo "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" does have its drawbacks.

  • @littlekingtrashmouth9219
    @littlekingtrashmouth9219 3 роки тому +40

    That’s a nice looking telescope.

  • @kevinoliver3083
    @kevinoliver3083 Рік тому +1

    The FIAT-Revelli M1914 was the Italian standard issue machine gun in WW1. But it was far from the only one they used.
    There were probably as many Colt "Potato Digger", Vickers 'C', and St. Étienne Mle 1907 (in 8mm Lebel) machine guns in service as the M1914.

  • @johncashwell1024
    @johncashwell1024 3 роки тому +2

    Now that is a fascinating forgotten weapon! From the mousetrap box magazine to the delaying mechanism, everything about this weapon is unique, to say the least.

  • @anto427
    @anto427 3 роки тому +4

    Here we are from italy at forgotten weapons! greatings!

  • @joseromo8971
    @joseromo8971 3 роки тому +6

    I’ve wondered about these. Thanks Ian!!

  • @tacticalmanatee
    @tacticalmanatee 3 роки тому +2

    funky form-factor aside, that seems to be a pretty compact magazine for 50 rounds of a full-power rifle cartridge

  • @umbertopestarini3210
    @umbertopestarini3210 3 роки тому +7

    I'm watching this while waiting for the spaghetti to cook, great video as always! From an italian fan.

  • @kcirtapecreip4155
    @kcirtapecreip4155 3 роки тому +31

    Coolest magazine ever.

  • @user-qf6yt3id3w
    @user-qf6yt3id3w 3 роки тому +3

    Look how the chest has leather patches over the few blocks to stop them rattling. Amazing attention to detail for what must have been a very rushed weapon.

  • @TaxiServiceMods
    @TaxiServiceMods 3 роки тому +1

    LMAO the hand gesturing really drives the point home. lots of love from italy

  • @reapersteelwolf4327
    @reapersteelwolf4327 3 роки тому

    Hey wanted to say love your videos and I especially enjoy the ones were you review weird and unique guns like this, I wish I had you job it looks awesome.

  • @emmedigi89
    @emmedigi89 3 роки тому +3

    Ian: "Before we take a closer look, I want to talk about some of its quirky features"
    The Doug in me: "THHHHHHHHHIIIISSSSSSSSSSSS"

  • @Hanley209
    @Hanley209 3 роки тому +3

    Loved this one. Never even thought about Italian heavy mg, thought they just used maxims like the rest. Fascinating 😁

  • @jerrycube6244
    @jerrycube6244 3 роки тому +1

    I think what’s being forgotten here is that it must’ve been a pretty impressive sight to see those magazines full of cartridges loaded into the gun with all those bullets exposed pointed down range. Pretty cool...

  • @ppark910
    @ppark910 Рік тому +1

    "There won't be much Italian in this video, because I speak the third-best Italian" lol i just rewatched Inglorious Basterds the other day, love the reference, Ian!

  • @kevintang5473
    @kevintang5473 3 роки тому +4

    This seems a lot simpler and cost-effective than most other machine guns in ww1. The delaying mechanism doesn't generate a whole lot of confidence though, since there isn't much locking down by moment of inertia like roller or lever delay, just extra spring tension. Although I suppose the relatively underpowered nature of the Italian 6.5 and the heavy bolt enables it to run reliably enough?

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 роки тому

      It's a short recoil mechanism. The barrel and bolt are linked by a solid piece of metal. There's no power of the cartridge that can squash the locking block and unlock the mechanism in advance.

    • @kevintang5473
      @kevintang5473 3 роки тому +1

      @@neutronalchemist3241 True. I rewatched it and find myself wrongly interpreting Ian's words on 12:46, which mislead me to believe that the bolt is locked by a lever-amplified spring tension from the wedge. Thank you for correcting me.

    • @neutronalchemist3241
      @neutronalchemist3241 3 роки тому +1

      @@kevintang5473 You are welcome. There's a great animation of the working of this gun. ua-cam.com/video/2SwNqvUZSW8/v-deo.html

  • @jamesramirez85
    @jamesramirez85 3 роки тому +4

    Well that "Buongiorno" was pretty good so "Complimenti Ian!"🤣

  • @DerekIcelord
    @DerekIcelord 3 роки тому +1

    I had to pause the video for a full minute to stop laughing at that subtle Inglorious Basterds reference. Well played, Gun Jesus.

  • @mariosebastiani3214
    @mariosebastiani3214 3 роки тому +1

    Don't worry, your Italian is getting better and better; meanwhile, there are a lot of Italian guys here who can speak English and are following you! Keep up the good job! Also, you know that, as an Italian, as soon as you mentioned that there was a steam valve for hot water, I thought "Ah, yes, for making pasta!".

  • @markusbecker1870
    @markusbecker1870 3 роки тому +3

    It was also starring in Louis Trenker's "Berge in Flammen" as the automatic weapon of the Alpini.

  • @ethanjensen6802
    @ethanjensen6802 3 роки тому +59

    I live and breathe for 'Inglorius Bastards' references like that intro

  • @TheAngryPasta
    @TheAngryPasta 3 роки тому +1

    In my eyes that is an exceptionally handsome machine gun.

  • @fabiopalazzi5044
    @fabiopalazzi5044 3 роки тому

    Hi, I'm Fabio from Italy, thank you for your videos!
    I'm passioned in WW1 history, in particular on Italian Front.
    I want to tell you a true story about Fiat Revelli M14 machine gun.
    The most loved President of Italian Republic of our history was Sandro Pertini.
    Pertini was a boy during WW1 and served in Italian Army with the rank of second lieutenant of FIAT machine gunners.
    He was promoted lieutenant, wounded by gases and decorated by silver medal for an action on Bainsizza sector.
    After WW1, Pertini was agains Fascism and suffered in jail during the fascist dictature.
    Only a lot of year after WW2, Pertini became President of Italian Republic (when I was a child, in the '80).
    He was a very old and respected man.
    During a visit to the Italian military mission in Lebanon, a non-Italian machine gun fired a burst. Security was alarmed by the President's safety, but he calmly replied: "Don't worry, I was a machine gunner during the war".
    The war was WW1 and the Pertini's weapon was a Fiat Revelli M14.
    In a book I red that Pertini told: "FIAT makes excellent cars but very bad machine guns".

  • @allensteiner1
    @allensteiner1 3 роки тому +8

    'I heard you like box magazines so we put a box magazine in your box magazine'

  • @miticmancho2560
    @miticmancho2560 3 роки тому +20

    As italian i loved the "Torino hand gestures"
    Love you gun Jesus ❤️

    • @ale00vable
      @ale00vable 3 роки тому +1

      Quel "Toriiiino" quel maledetto "Toriiiinooh"

    • @hendriktonisson2915
      @hendriktonisson2915 3 роки тому +1

      Greetings to Italians from Estonia. I love the Italians. Very good and beautiful people and they make the best food in the World.

    • @HaNNibal97smiTH
      @HaNNibal97smiTH 3 роки тому +2

      Ho riso per cinque minuti

    • @ale00vable
      @ale00vable 3 роки тому

      @@hendriktonisson2915 thank you bro

    • @stoneylonesome4062
      @stoneylonesome4062 3 роки тому +2

      Hello to italy from Albania 🇦🇱 we still have some of these guns in my country

  • @mf1ve
    @mf1ve 3 роки тому +1

    Absolutely fascinating! Thank you so much for bringing this to us.

  • @tian320i
    @tian320i 3 роки тому

    Thanks Ian. That was a great review