Thanks to DeleteMe for sponsoring this build, and for all the viewers who bullied me for years..... to try a vortex design with ionic thrust! You may have created a monster.
Might want to consider putting a few of those 15MHz flame-discharge Tesla coils in the middle of that vortex - firenado that runs entirely on electricity should be fun to watch.
Hi Jay, hoping you can answer a couple questions: 1. Does the vortex have a charge? 2. what happens if you open up the front? does more air get pulled in? or does it just kill the vortex?
Here is a challenge that you might like. Under the right conditions, plasma is thee most conductive matter/object. What are those conditions and can it be proven?
As a science teacher I request that you either make full build instructions (including materials list) available, or find a partner to make a kit. This is far better than any tornado model that I've seen. Especially since it relies on temperature differential to visualize the vortex formation.
@@guytech7310so do beds of nails and bowling balls, i think this would more be a bring out once a year while kids stay 5 feet away type of thing which could work especially considering that while the voltage is high, there’s not an insane amount of power actually being consumed meaning low amps.
@@guytech7310conventional fans also have fast spinning blades that are dangerous for children, but they are made safe by encasing the blades in a cage to make it difficult to actually reach the blades. A safe version of this contraption could be made with grounded metal mesh serving as faraday caging, as well as some form of fog that does not use water. Incense perhaps?
@@PixlRainbow If the fan blades are exposed it does not kill them if they touch the spinning blade. You don't even need to touch an energized 20kv component for instant death, just get close enough for an arc. You might as well make the argument that its safe for kids to play with hand grenades since there is a safety pin! No way is this device even remotely safe for kids.Even most adults are likely to get killed with this.
So, the power sources are non lethal. They are stun gun modules - which when shocked by, give you a scary zap but leave no lasting damage and don’t cause death. I certainly understand the fear of 20kv, but the overall power is very low (15 watts per high voltage source), and this project is non lethal. Painful if touched, yes, but non lethal.
As a tornado researcher and storm chaser for the last 30 years, you have built one of the best vortex chambers I've ever seen! At low power, you can simulate the detached debris swirl on the ground, and you can see a direct correlation between power output and the rotational velocity of the funnel. New research on tornadoes shows a laminar flow interacting and wrapping around a small vortex, making it stronger. I think you might be on the edge of a breakthrough. This could answer a lot of questions.
unrelated note, these thrusters wouldn't make for a good CPU or GPU fan, because due to needing much higher voltages to operate, if the slightest damage to the circuit happens, (which it will), the current can arc to the PCB and kill your system due to the extreme difference in voltage.
This is amazing, you should definitely sell these as kits or do a kickstarter. You will inspire many people and let others enjoy and teach friends. You’ve made something fantastic here.
I can see how this can be sold for thousands of dollars to high end restaurants who can afford decorating their place with such machines... you should think about it 👀
@@LordDragox412 I like how you underestimate the ability of engineers to solve minor problems, while watching an engineer solve far more complex problems.
@PlasmaChannel you could make your own business building and selling that device by order. I imagine it as an ornament in a small room like an office, a restaurant or the living room of a house. 👌😀👍
First video of yours that's popped up on my feed, and may I say this is incredible work. Thank you for taking the time and effort to make this video, it's both inspiring and educational. Consider yourself subscribed.
The lower speed vortices are the best visually to me. The speed is much better for the scale of the vortex at the lower speeds. They look more tornadic than the high speed setting.
I wonder about having a short piece of yarn fixed into the lower opening so it's flapping around in the vortex adding some random instability. (or a cotton ball on a thread) That might look sort of cool.
i honestly love how this channel sorta has that vibe of early youtube DIY videos but except its exploring far more advanced stuff from the type of stuff i would have seen from back then. lets me just vibe while also learn about new stuff every often
I know I'm just one among many, but I really love all your projects. Your amazing and the way you talk keeps things easy to understand. I haven't attempted to build any of your projects myself yet but I'm excited to try and get my own 3D printer soon and give some of these a try
A flame tornado would be great, in miniature. SlowMo Guys made one in medium size (well, still arguably miniature compared to a forest/city fire). They placed a number of box fans around a campfire to create it. Bonus: they added various metallic laced fields to color the flames! The only downside is this would need to be a glass cylinder in order to accommodate the temperature, and I'm sure the cost wound be *_insane!_* Nevermind the complexity of cutting in the slots 😒 (unless they can mold the slots into it, raising the price even further)
I remember our old conversations about ion lifters, and trying to find a decent TV for the power source. Now here you are, still wearing killer shirts, and messing around. Too cool. Can't wait to see you hit that 1 mill mark.
The fog would kill the fire due to being CO2 replacing the O2 needed for the fire. A small ring of LED's with the right color at the base of the vortex shining up though..
@@Enterprising_Aim lol, no need for the fog at all. Just fire. Fire tornados 🌪 usually just grow from a whirlpool of air and the fire having enough fuel to maintain itself.
@@PatrickKniesler To light up the whole thing, yes. Doing it the way i described will have the fog itself light up. while leaving the rest unilluminated. IT would be a more striking effect as an art piece VS just for filming.
Add a few miniature trailer homes and a couple of cows to give it that extra wow factor. Maybe even a power line with a transformer containing a random blinking LED or sparkler of some sort.
Man o man, this is why I love your channel so much... You sir, think outside the tube!!! If this doesn't get a subscriber, I don't know what would! Who can resist a person who created his on personal twister??? Maybe another 4' taller, and 2' wider! Ok, so the tube would cost thousands, but so worth it, my goodness! Maybe thrusters stacked together if needed, or even smaller, because, who knows what smaller thrusters would do? You could sell truck loads of smaller versions... Color changing ring light... Wow... Cool man!!! Very COOL!!!
Hey, I appreciate you! Funny thing - this video is not being liked by the masses very much (at least so far). I thought it was a really fun project, and video, but honestly it's up to the people to decide that!
@@PlasmaChannel I was thinking to myself after finishing watching the video just now, that the view count is criminally low for a project like this, especially with such a neat result. Hopefully the algorithm gives it a chance soon. :)
you should play with differing voltages in pairs to have the tornado wiggle / oscillate more ,or have an individual ionic thruster pulse at random intervals and variable power to make the tornado get knocked like a gust occured @plasma channel
Haven't seen this in comments yet: what about a spinning 'toy' in the center? Something that generates lift via the spin (bladed 'flying discs' usually launched from a handheld device).... if the vortex power is right, and the lift balances the weight/gravity, you'd get a floating disc that would just sit there in the middle, riding the vortex. Think 'floating ping pong ball' which can be floated on a simple stream of air, which 'spins' as a globe, but more 'ufo' like, spinning in the direction of vortex, and riding it.
I love your contents, dude! Unlike many youtubers, you have excellent presentation and unique ideas in your videos. Keep it up. People like you and ElectroBOOM are the reason why I like and cherish studying Electricity and its effects!
I absolutely love using Onshape for 3D modeling for printing! I was introduced to it in my high school drafting class and it's all I've used since. Such a great tool! Loving what you did here, keep up the incredible work!
Small suggestion here: I personally think (coming from a storm chaser) it would be cooler looking if you made the tube longer, put the thrusters at the top, and basically reverse the whole thing by putting the dry ice at the top so it wouldn’t be at the bottom which would make it form from the top, like a real tornado :)
@@AngryBulldogGaming I have, he combines them linearly, or linear around a central point. What he doesn't do is use Eddy currents perpendicular to the axis of flow to amplify the air currents like in the ionic hurricane of this video.
@@Sentinel_editz-z9 possibly channel members or patreons get early access to videos. Makes sense to give the people that support you something for their money right?
The fog is co2 from the dry ice, not water, so you'd have to somehow get uve reactive colors miced into that which Im not sure how easy that would be. The water is just there to warm.up the dry ice so that it turns into fog.
@@ericblanz oh youre right! I didn't know that. But from all i can tell its still mostly water from the air and not from the bowl so the coloring wouldnt work?
@@dextrodusI think so. Unless the coloring is about as volatile as water, I doubt it would evaporate from the bowl and then condense due to the cool air. That's not to say it's impossible, but the dye needs to have very specific characteristics.
Super sick indeed! Thnx! Reminds me of the Miami's museum, hurricane display item when i visited as a child many years ago!. Was super intrigued & impressed 👍😁!!!! Blessings! Very impressive work & engineering!
With how you have it built, it should be able to handle water vapor(ultrasonic fogger) just fine. The vapor would never come into contact with the thrusters or other pieces. Maybe condensation running down the sides of the inside of the tube, but that would be easily handled with a “gutter” lip.
@@Quickened1 Text will always be a viable form of conveying information. Even if it's no longer printed on paper and instead is only published digitally. On the plus side, consuming digital text is much faster and easier with the advent of better text to speech technology.
@@H3xx99 @H3xx99 haha, you misunderstand me... In the future, "paper" books will be in private collections... I never implied written language, or text would no longer exist! It's just the information will be conveyed in much different ways, and UA-cam will probably be at the center where all the information is compiled, A futuristic library if you will... Time will tell...
quick recommendation: Change the top piece so there's a slit exit in a circle near the outer edge (instead of the hole in the middle), it will force a funnel shaped vortex..
You just made me a subscriber to your channel. As a reasonable knowable DYI guy, I think your guiding on how to build this is quite spot on. ´Really good instructions., in my opinion". - Note, I have yet not made my own version as my Creality 5 Pro 3d printer is in a different continent (Asia) and I recently moved back to Sweden after a lovely 23 year trip over there. Now time for my family to enjoy Scandinavia for 10+ years. For those who are not handy, they might need these instructions at half speed and slightly more details. But I loved it and thanks for sharing it to the DYI community.
You sir are a genius in your own right. The videos you make are like puzzle pieces that click things together for me. This video is a potential solution or improvement to an idea of mine. God bless you sir
I made one of these about 20 years ago that was about 5 feet tall. I built an octagon shape chamber with (cheap) flat pieces of acrylic, used a vacuum cleaner at the top to create suction, flap/angled ports near the bottom to create rotation, and an ultrasonic transducer to create the fog. One of the coolest projects I've ever made, but pretty pointless. :)
WOW, just wow! This is so cool! Somehow I have the feeling that there's a whole world of opportunities or use cases to do with this technology. You just have to create the correct problem for this to solve it.
Just a couple of things to keep in mind: 1.- Tornados doesn't form from bottom to top but the other way around, they form on the clouds and eventually (although not always) touch down on the ground so all this twister chamber is basically upside down. 2.- You may consider the posibility of using a different smoke or fog source like a vaper or a fog machine, that way you don't have to keep pouring water and dry ice into it and it would last way longer. 3.- Tornados are usually shaped like cones not cylinders like your vortex... just saying. If you consider the use of alternative fog sources like I suggested you could even flip upside down your tube so it is in the propper orientation and with some luck it may actually work.
@manusoftar - When you say vapor or fog machine, could the vapor generator be like an ultrasonic nebulizer like the ones in an inhome vaporizer? I don't know how conductive that type of water mist would be and the water would need to eventually be replenished.
@@Tedeeb4 well, the dry ice also would need to eventually be replenished... I was talking about a fog machine, those machines that use some kind of glicerine to make fog or smoke... like the ones used in music shows (not to confuse with those used in theaters as those are dry ice based)
As the plasma enthusiast you are. I have an idea that would intrigue your interest I think it could be relatively simple but I’m sure there’s always design engineering hurdles like anything. I can’t find anywhere that someone else does this. And it would be a pretty nice demonstration/museum piece like all your projects end up being. Your tornado project inspired this thought. Feel free to contact me and I’ll let you know more. Just don’t want to spoil it in this comment for everyone in case you end up doing it. Keep up the good work fellow experimenter.. Keep it up!
I wish you had shown more of your experimentation process! I would love to see more of the science behind it and how you came up with the dimensions and power needs.
Dude. Istg. You were ment to be a maxed out stat w buffness, strength, physical capability etc. Nah you pull a 180 and full spec out the nerd tree and im absolutely here for it!! Love the build!
Wow I'm so impressed of your work, thank you so much for making this one. This is a demonstration of how wind/air would behave when it travel tangentially and move vertically along the cylinder to the exit port (this reminds me of my thesis work with only an animated simulation😢) And if you decrease the diameter of the exit port on the top the vortex will be more stronger compared to the wider diameter at the same air input speed 😅
I read in an article once that fire that spins in a vortex burns without smoke and companies were looking into that for garbage incineration. Then I never heard about it again. Just sharing ideas.
ChatGPT's response: Yes, it is generally true that fire spinning in a vortex, known as a “fire tornado” or “fire whirl,” can burn with significantly less smoke. This is because the vortex effect increases the efficiency of combustion by supplying a more continuous and concentrated flow of oxygen to the flames. The enhanced oxygen supply allows the fire to burn more completely, reducing the amount of partially burned particles (which are the primary components of smoke) released into the air. However, the presence of smoke also depends on the type of fuel being burned and other environmental factors.
This is just incredibl! One of my favorite projects you've done on YT. I don't know if this is something people have suggested, even possible, and/or stupid, but if there was some way at the top to put an arching Telsa coil to create a lighting effect with color-changing strobe lights to give a kind of storming tornado effect in low light.
Theres a large scale fog tornado model (about 4 feet in diameter )at Science Museum Oklahoma. I think it uses some kind of pressurized air through some holes, but it'd be cool to see this in that big of size. Epic build as always. This channel makes me hyped to get my degree lol
Wow. What a great way to study turbulence. I've heard of using two tubes, the inner one spinning with a fluid between both cylinders. Never seen your method.
While watching the vid, I was wondering about the use of dry ice, and not one of those ion mist thingies. I was going to pose that question to you, but I liked that you answered that as a part of the video. Great piece, well done!
Very imaginative, and a beautifully constructed project. I wonder how much money such a lovely item would command on the open market. You could probably have smaller or larger versions mass-produced at a reasonable cost. Well done! Really excellent.
Really awesome! One thing that would make it more realistic would be if the twister formed from the top down, like in real life. A ring-shaped tray could hold the water and allow the fog to pour downward into the tube from above.
Hah great vid, we had this as a science project from a long time ago, however not with ionic trusters but a heating stove at the bottom, a vacuum cleaner with adjustable rpm at the top, same transparant tube, and adjustable air inlets at the bottom. We had to replicate the real life conditions, low pressure at the top, temp from below and the perfect instream of air at the bottom. It was surprisingly easy to be honest. Smoke was from the Amanuensis blowing smoke with a cigarette. Haha gotta love the 80's.
With the straightened vortex column, it is just a matter of refining it into a gravity-assisted Z-pinch. While not plasma, of course, it is close enough. One can see Z-Pinch already trying to form - the sudden thinning of the vortex. There is not much material to work with, however, since air is not plasma, and there won't be magnetic field to twist itself tighter. Still, an art piece and one awesome demonstration of the basic concepts. Thank you for sharing!
Other people have lava lamps. This guy has a tornado lamp. Only thing missing is RGB, eventhough I'm normally against that. But here I make an exception because I think it's actually an improvement.
I'll give you some good advice. Instead of putting ice in the water, put an ultrasonic fogger in there. It will not be a useless "installation" but an air humidifier along with an ionizer. Both beautiful and useful.
Science is just amazing, and you presented this amazement into a palpable thing, so beautiful, best demonstrative decorative thing I've ever seen! 🤩👍🏻 Thank you man, you are amazing, be prosperous! 👍🏻🎉🎉🎉
That is one of the coolest tornado representations I've ever seen. Awesome job Sir! The dynamics at play are pretty spot on, although, I wonder if there is a way to stabilize some debris in the lower portion of your tornado there. That would be pretty cool
Great build, a flipped version to give it the growing down look like a real twister would be real cool. would be an amazing little art piece scaled up to room height.
Rather than a hole in the middle of the top cap, try opening a ring around the top just inside of the acrylic (with small supports). This could allow the vortex to widen at the top.
Thanks to DeleteMe for sponsoring this build, and for all the viewers who bullied me for years..... to try a vortex design with ionic thrust! You may have created a monster.
Might want to consider putting a few of those 15MHz flame-discharge Tesla coils in the middle of that vortex - firenado that runs entirely on electricity should be fun to watch.
Hi Jay, hoping you can answer a couple questions:
1. Does the vortex have a charge?
2. what happens if you open up the front? does more air get pulled in? or does it just kill the vortex?
I have a question why can't we close the top making it a vortex forever ?
What about the video concept of fire tornado from tkor and could use clear resin on printer to make the tube
Here is a challenge that you might like. Under the right conditions, plasma is thee most conductive matter/object. What are those conditions and can it be proven?
As a science teacher I request that you either make full build instructions (including materials list) available, or find a partner to make a kit. This is far better than any tornado model that I've seen. Especially since it relies on temperature differential to visualize the vortex formation.
20KV says no for school kids, especially since there is a water bath below it to enhance the risk factor to 11. Too much liability.
@@guytech7310so do beds of nails and bowling balls, i think this would more be a bring out once a year while kids stay 5 feet away type of thing which could work especially considering that while the voltage is high, there’s not an insane amount of power actually being consumed meaning low amps.
@@guytech7310conventional fans also have fast spinning blades that are dangerous for children, but they are made safe by encasing the blades in a cage to make it difficult to actually reach the blades. A safe version of this contraption could be made with grounded metal mesh serving as faraday caging, as well as some form of fog that does not use water. Incense perhaps?
@@PixlRainbow If the fan blades are exposed it does not kill them if they touch the spinning blade. You don't even need to touch an energized 20kv component for instant death, just get close enough for an arc.
You might as well make the argument that its safe for kids to play with hand grenades since there is a safety pin!
No way is this device even remotely safe for kids.Even most adults are likely to get killed with this.
So, the power sources are non lethal. They are stun gun modules - which when shocked by, give you a scary zap but leave no lasting damage and don’t cause death. I certainly understand the fear of 20kv, but the overall power is very low (15 watts per high voltage source), and this project is non lethal. Painful if touched, yes, but non lethal.
As a tornado researcher and storm chaser for the last 30 years, you have built one of the best vortex chambers I've ever seen! At low power, you can simulate the detached debris swirl on the ground, and you can see a direct correlation between power output and the rotational velocity of the
funnel.
New research on tornadoes shows a laminar flow interacting and wrapping around a small vortex, making it stronger.
I think you might be on the edge of a breakthrough. This could answer a lot of questions.
unrelated note, these thrusters wouldn't make for a good CPU or GPU fan, because due to needing much higher voltages to operate, if the slightest damage to the circuit happens, (which it will), the current can arc to the PCB and kill your system due to the extreme difference in voltage.
@@engineer84-w8x the more you know💫
As a tornado myself, I'm delighted to see that we can now be born without much turbulence. Thanks, dude-much appreciated!
Torando ☠💀💀
The skies howl, for the tornado has arrived
OUTRAGEOUS! PLEASE SELL THIS!!! This is really awesome.
This is amazing, you should definitely sell these as kits or do a kickstarter. You will inspire many people and let others enjoy and teach friends. You’ve made something fantastic here.
I can see how this can be sold for thousands of dollars to high end restaurants who can afford decorating their place with such machines... you should think about it 👀
The health and safety guys don't like machines that blow CO2 into an enclosed space.
@@LordDragox412I think it'd be less of that and more of the 6 ozone generators
@@LordDragox412 Good thing there's a conveniently shaped hole at the top to which an air duct could be mounted. ;)
@@Tyropeyeah, so we can pump it directly into the ionosphere!
@@LordDragox412 I like how you underestimate the ability of engineers to solve minor problems, while watching an engineer solve far more complex problems.
I can really see a ''consumer'' version of this with everything fitting in the base. This is really cool.
No, Dry ice, water & high voltage.
@@guytech7310 I'm sure it's fiiiiiiiine
Oh wow! As a storm chaser I would love to have one of these in my house! Great video.
That means a lot, comging from someone like you!
@@RCFlier0 me too
@PlasmaChannel you could make your own business building and selling that device by order. I imagine it as an ornament in a small room like an office, a restaurant or the living room of a house. 👌😀👍
I have one... it even cleans the carpet!
@@wesleyc.4937 lol
I've never seen a bad plasma channel video. This one didn't disappoint!
First video of yours that's popped up on my feed, and may I say this is incredible work. Thank you for taking the time and effort to make this video, it's both inspiring and educational. Consider yourself subscribed.
Attach a tesla coil to it so we can get a lightning effect
It would probably create plasma if too much electricity is used which would destroy the entire chamber
And lasers
And explosions! And stuff! And...
@@RobertoTifi an GUNS! 'murica, f yeaaaaah
And sharks
The lower speed vortices are the best visually to me. The speed is much better for the scale of the vortex at the lower speeds. They look more tornadic than the high speed setting.
Ya
he need larger tube so high vortice have lower speed
I wonder about having a short piece of yarn fixed into the lower opening so it's flapping around in the vortex adding some random instability. (or a cotton ball on a thread) That might look sort of cool.
i honestly love how this channel sorta has that vibe of early youtube DIY videos but except its exploring far more advanced stuff from the type of stuff i would have seen from back then.
lets me just vibe while also learn about new stuff every often
I know I'm just one among many, but I really love all your projects. Your amazing and the way you talk keeps things easy to understand. I haven't attempted to build any of your projects myself yet but I'm excited to try and get my own 3D printer soon and give some of these a try
"shocker!" good pun. Thanks for sharing.
Might be interesting to light it from below with a single central beam. Lasers ?
RGB LEDs?
Leds
Leds
read my mind, i recon a laser beam in the middle would likely diffuse out enough through the CO2 fog to illuminate the whole column pretty well too
I'd try milticolor LEDS so you can either manually pick a color, automatically shift through the rainbow, or even shift and pulse to music.
Now we just have to wait for Integza to make a combustible version of this... 2 weeks?
Yes !...And powered by microwaves and fueled by water !
Yes, and of course, the victims will be tomatoes. ;-)
DISGUSTING tomatoes!!!!!
Integza or the Backyard scientist
A flame tornado would be great, in miniature.
SlowMo Guys made one in medium size (well, still arguably miniature compared to a forest/city fire). They placed a number of box fans around a campfire to create it. Bonus: they added various metallic laced fields to color the flames!
The only downside is this would need to be a glass cylinder in order to accommodate the temperature, and I'm sure the cost wound be *_insane!_* Nevermind the complexity of cutting in the slots 😒
(unless they can mold the slots into it, raising the price even further)
You need to put little miniatures of a house, two people running away, and a cow….. 😂😂😂😂
PS , the people should be Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton 😉
I came here to say this, and you said it better. :D
Also a bunker with the door open and someone being sucked into the vortex lol
It would look cool for sure, but it might distort the air flow and ruin the vortex.
Wonderful video you have a brilliant mind sir 👍🏾
make a cow out of styrofoam so it'll fly in the tornado!
Thank you so much for the sponser! Thats what i been looking for a while
Very good plasma guy. I was quite thrilled with the vortex and your obvious hearfelt positively glowing smile. Just neat as neat as it gets
I remember our old conversations about ion lifters, and trying to find a decent TV for the power source. Now here you are, still wearing killer shirts, and messing around. Too cool. Can't wait to see you hit that 1 mill mark.
This belongs on every science museum
or art gallery
“It belongs in a museum!”
-Indiana Jones
Have a small flame sticking up into the chamber, FIRE TORNADO! This thing is just sweet.
The fog would kill the fire due to being CO2 replacing the O2 needed for the fire. A small ring of LED's with the right color at the base of the vortex shining up though..
@@Enterprising_Aim lol, no need for the fog at all. Just fire. Fire tornados 🌪 usually just grow from a whirlpool of air and the fire having enough fuel to maintain itself.
@@JasonOnTheWeb That doesnt seem like it would be safe to house in a plastic tube.
@@Enterprising_Aimseems like the light at the top works fine to illuminate the column. Just use red instead of white.
@@PatrickKniesler To light up the whole thing, yes. Doing it the way i described will have the fog itself light up. while leaving the rest unilluminated. IT would be a more striking effect as an art piece VS just for filming.
Add a few miniature trailer homes and a couple of cows to give it that extra wow factor. Maybe even a power line with a transformer containing a random blinking LED or sparkler of some sort.
well done and Thank you for your engagement in such research
it just works, 1 test needed and it just works. so satisfying
Line laser to create an illuminated vortex cross section will be a great feature :D
Man o man, this is why I love your channel so much... You sir, think outside the tube!!!
If this doesn't get a subscriber, I don't know what would! Who can resist a person who created his on personal twister???
Maybe another 4' taller, and 2' wider! Ok, so the tube would cost thousands, but so worth it, my goodness! Maybe thrusters stacked together if needed, or even smaller, because, who knows what smaller thrusters would do? You could sell truck loads of smaller versions... Color changing ring light... Wow... Cool man!!! Very COOL!!!
Hey, I appreciate you! Funny thing - this video is not being liked by the masses very much (at least so far). I thought it was a really fun project, and video, but honestly it's up to the people to decide that!
@@PlasmaChanneljust added my like, because it is worth it 😊
You definitely earned one subscriber
@@PlasmaChannel I think this is just getting started. This better go viral because it’s brilliant!!!
@@PlasmaChannel I was thinking to myself after finishing watching the video just now, that the view count is criminally low for a project like this, especially with such a neat result. Hopefully the algorithm gives it a chance soon. :)
Thankyou! So much fun🐉
Awesome project and very nice cutting and filming!
you should play with differing voltages in pairs to have the tornado wiggle / oscillate more ,or have an individual ionic thruster pulse at random intervals and variable power to make the tornado get knocked like a gust occured @plasma channel
Haven't seen this in comments yet: what about a spinning 'toy' in the center? Something that generates lift via the spin (bladed 'flying discs' usually launched from a handheld device).... if the vortex power is right, and the lift balances the weight/gravity, you'd get a floating disc that would just sit there in the middle, riding the vortex. Think 'floating ping pong ball' which can be floated on a simple stream of air, which 'spins' as a globe, but more 'ufo' like, spinning in the direction of vortex, and riding it.
ElectroBOOM made something like this, with two rings of foil in an x-shape, even with Q-charging wireless energy LEDS..
@@Krog32 yes, his firefly lantern...but those were tiny and fan driven turbulence.
Put a magnetic levitation disk by polarity free repulsion method, no coils needed just spinning magnets, using also lorentz forces to spin faster
I love your contents, dude! Unlike many youtubers, you have excellent presentation and unique ideas in your videos. Keep it up. People like you and ElectroBOOM are the reason why I like and cherish studying Electricity and its effects!
I absolutely love using Onshape for 3D modeling for printing! I was introduced to it in my high school drafting class and it's all I've used since. Such a great tool! Loving what you did here, keep up the incredible work!
It’s pretty apparent when companies use bots to post comments. Doesn’t do your company any justice.
Small suggestion here:
I personally think (coming from a storm chaser) it would be cooler looking if you made the tube longer, put the thrusters at the top, and basically reverse the whole thing by putting the dry ice at the top so it wouldn’t be at the bottom which would make it form from the top, like a real tornado :)
Very Interesting!
Wouldn't the water just spill to the bottom?
@@lilbaz8073 there could be a tube like that was going through the control section but it goes up to make a little lip
Incredibly cool! I think scripting the voltage so it looks like it’s pulsating would be cool
Amazing work!
This could be applied to your thruster in general
That's my thought
he already did bro watch the videos on the thrusters
wait what 18 hours ago????????????????????????????????????????? can someone explain
@@AngryBulldogGaming I have, he combines them linearly, or linear around a central point.
What he doesn't do is use Eddy currents perpendicular to the axis of flow to amplify the air currents like in the ionic hurricane of this video.
@@Sentinel_editz-z9 possibly channel members or patreons get early access to videos. Makes sense to give the people that support you something for their money right?
Excellent! Now add UV-active colors to the water and activate an UV-LED-panel instead of the white bright light on top.
The fog is co2 from the dry ice, not water, so you'd have to somehow get uve reactive colors miced into that which Im not sure how easy that would be. The water is just there to warm.up the dry ice so that it turns into fog.
@@dextrodus Dry ice white fog is condensed water vapor, mixed with the invisible carbon dioxide.
@@ericblanz oh youre right! I didn't know that. But from all i can tell its still mostly water from the air and not from the bowl so the coloring wouldnt work?
@dextrodus it's humid air from the water condensing due to the coldness of the dry ice. It's effectively distilled water.
@@dextrodusI think so. Unless the coloring is about as volatile as water, I doubt it would evaporate from the bowl and then condense due to the cool air. That's not to say it's impossible, but the dye needs to have very specific characteristics.
Man it's crazy how you keep coming up with these awesome ideas
Super sick indeed! Thnx! Reminds me of the Miami's museum, hurricane display item when i visited as a child many years ago!. Was super intrigued & impressed 👍😁!!!! Blessings! Very impressive work & engineering!
With how you have it built, it should be able to handle water vapor(ultrasonic fogger) just fine. The vapor would never come into contact with the thrusters or other pieces. Maybe condensation running down the sides of the inside of the tube, but that would be easily handled with a “gutter” lip.
Use oil or glycerin
@@Only.The.Best. water itself will work just fine and not leave a film.
I am certain, that at one point we will learn about you in our historybooks as a pioneer in ionic thrust
Or rather, on the history Tubes, books won't exist anymore, except in private collections...
@@Quickened1 Text will always be a viable form of conveying information. Even if it's no longer printed on paper and instead is only published digitally. On the plus side, consuming digital text is much faster and easier with the advent of better text to speech technology.
@@H3xx99 @H3xx99 haha, you misunderstand me... In the future, "paper" books will be in private collections... I never implied written language, or text would no longer exist! It's just the information will be conveyed in much different ways, and UA-cam will probably be at the center where all the information is compiled, A futuristic library if you will...
Time will tell...
Quote for the day. "Science is never a perfect science." Great video!
quick recommendation: Change the top piece so there's a slit exit in a circle near the outer edge (instead of the hole in the middle), it will force a funnel shaped vortex..
You just made me a subscriber to your channel.
As a reasonable knowable DYI guy, I think your guiding on how to build this is quite spot on. ´Really good instructions., in my opinion".
- Note, I have yet not made my own version as my Creality 5 Pro 3d printer is in a different continent (Asia) and I recently moved back to Sweden after a lovely 23 year trip over there. Now time for my family to enjoy Scandinavia for 10+ years.
For those who are not handy, they might need these instructions at half speed and slightly more details.
But I loved it and thanks for sharing it to the DYI community.
Pretty cool 🌪️
You sir are a genius in your own right. The videos you make are like puzzle pieces that click things together for me. This video is a potential solution or improvement to an idea of mine. God bless you sir
I'n honored you enjoyed my video. I'm all about connecting ideas and inspiring others to be creative as well, so thanks for letting me know!
Thats a super satisfying build. Kudos to you man.
You should add a microcontroller and have the height react to sound or animate it, the forming of the full vortex looks so cool
Finally a good practical application for these ionic thrusters.
am i wrong to think that you made an upsidedown tornado? is it possible to make it the other way, where the twister comes from the top?
I made one of these about 20 years ago that was about 5 feet tall. I built an octagon shape chamber with (cheap) flat pieces of acrylic, used a vacuum cleaner at the top to create suction, flap/angled ports near the bottom to create rotation, and an ultrasonic transducer to create the fog. One of the coolest projects I've ever made, but pretty pointless. :)
You didn't actually do that. Nice try though but what you described wouldn't even work.
@@Sabrinahuskydog Why not?
Dude this is absolutely insane! Holy crap how cool is that.
WOW, just wow! This is so cool! Somehow I have the feeling that there's a whole world of opportunities or use cases to do with this technology. You just have to create the correct problem for this to solve it.
Just a couple of things to keep in mind:
1.- Tornados doesn't form from bottom to top but the other way around, they form on the clouds and eventually (although not always) touch down on the ground so all this twister chamber is basically upside down.
2.- You may consider the posibility of using a different smoke or fog source like a vaper or a fog machine, that way you don't have to keep pouring water and dry ice into it and it would last way longer.
3.- Tornados are usually shaped like cones not cylinders like your vortex... just saying.
If you consider the use of alternative fog sources like I suggested you could even flip upside down your tube so it is in the propper orientation and with some luck it may actually work.
@manusoftar - When you say vapor or fog machine, could the vapor generator be like an ultrasonic nebulizer like the ones in an inhome vaporizer? I don't know how conductive that type of water mist would be and the water would need to eventually be replenished.
@@Tedeeb4 well, the dry ice also would need to eventually be replenished...
I was talking about a fog machine, those machines that use some kind of glicerine to make fog or smoke... like the ones used in music shows (not to confuse with those used in theaters as those are dry ice based)
Just flip it.
Install an Ultrasonic Humidifier so you don't have to keep using dry ice. Edit: 10:37 ahhh...
Miracle happens here
As the plasma enthusiast you are. I have an idea that would intrigue your interest I think it could be relatively simple but I’m sure there’s always design engineering hurdles like anything. I can’t find anywhere that someone else does this. And it would be a pretty nice demonstration/museum piece like all your projects end up being. Your tornado project inspired this thought. Feel free to contact me and I’ll let you know more. Just don’t want to spoil it in this comment for everyone in case you end up doing it.
Keep up the good work fellow experimenter.. Keep it up!
I wish you had shown more of your experimentation process! I would love to see more of the science behind it and how you came up with the dimensions and power needs.
Add a tesla coil and you got a million dollar product on your hands!
Tip for using a Dremel on acrylic use the paper sanding disks as a cutoff wheel . They cut super clean and fast. They also last a long time too.
Dude. Istg. You were ment to be a maxed out stat w buffness, strength, physical capability etc. Nah you pull a 180 and full spec out the nerd tree and im absolutely here for it!! Love the build!
Wow I'm so impressed of your work, thank you so much for making this one.
This is a demonstration of how wind/air would behave when it travel tangentially and move vertically along the cylinder to the exit port (this reminds me of my thesis work with only an animated simulation😢)
And if you decrease the diameter of the exit port on the top the vortex will be more stronger compared to the wider diameter at the same air input speed 😅
That's beautiful! The ring light at the top was a great idea:)
I read in an article once that fire that spins in a vortex burns without smoke and companies were looking into that for garbage incineration. Then I never heard about it again. Just sharing ideas.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing
ChatGPT's response: Yes, it is generally true that fire spinning in a vortex, known as a “fire tornado” or “fire whirl,” can burn with significantly less smoke. This is because the vortex effect increases the efficiency of combustion by supplying a more continuous and concentrated flow of oxygen to the flames. The enhanced oxygen supply allows the fire to burn more completely, reducing the amount of partially burned particles (which are the primary components of smoke) released into the air. However, the presence of smoke also depends on the type of fuel being burned and other environmental factors.
I can't get enough of this machine I need a whole hour video of it just working
This is just incredibl! One of my favorite projects you've done on YT.
I don't know if this is something people have suggested, even possible, and/or stupid, but if there was some way at the top to put an arching Telsa coil to create a lighting effect with color-changing strobe lights to give a kind of storming tornado effect in low light.
Theres a large scale fog tornado model (about 4 feet in diameter )at Science Museum Oklahoma. I think it uses some kind of pressurized air through some holes, but it'd be cool to see this in that big of size. Epic build as always. This channel makes me hyped to get my degree lol
thats beautiful, and i think you can make the top cover hole movable so the vortex will move like a real tornado
make sure the acrylic is warm and i would suggest a #30-#12 bit to pre drill the corners of the notches
Thanks for sharing your idea/build :)
Wow. What a great way to study turbulence. I've heard of using two tubes, the inner one spinning with a fluid between both cylinders. Never seen your method.
While watching the vid, I was wondering about the use of dry ice, and not one of those ion mist thingies. I was going to pose that question to you, but I liked that you answered that as a part of the video. Great piece, well done!
Very imaginative, and a beautifully constructed project. I wonder how much money such a lovely item would command on the open market. You could probably have smaller or larger versions mass-produced at a reasonable cost. Well done! Really excellent.
Another brilliant and surprising video, this channel is magical every time.
Absolutely beautiful!
Really awesome! One thing that would make it more realistic would be if the twister formed from the top down, like in real life. A ring-shaped tray could hold the water and allow the fog to pour downward into the tube from above.
Very cool, I've seen some projects using Ion thrusters for fixed wing ultra light drones.
Nice moves dude. An all time favorite!
Small world. I went to taps plastic when I was in college in that city. PNW love my friend.
I remember when your channel had a couple hundred subs, it's good to see this channel exploded!
Hah great vid, we had this as a science project from a long time ago, however not with ionic trusters but a heating stove at the bottom, a vacuum cleaner with adjustable rpm at the top, same transparant tube, and adjustable air inlets at the bottom.
We had to replicate the real life conditions, low pressure at the top, temp from below and the perfect instream of air at the bottom.
It was surprisingly easy to be honest. Smoke was from the Amanuensis blowing smoke with a cigarette. Haha gotta love the 80's.
pretty cool! maybe you could turn selected thrusters on and off with the right timing to make the vortex "dance" for a cool show!
Amazing and beautiful! I hope to see it at Open Sauce next year! :)
Wicked Awesome Tornado.🌪
With the straightened vortex column, it is just a matter of refining it into a gravity-assisted Z-pinch. While not plasma, of course, it is close enough.
One can see Z-Pinch already trying to form - the sudden thinning of the vortex. There is not much material to work with, however, since air is not plasma, and there won't be magnetic field to twist itself tighter.
Still, an art piece and one awesome demonstration of the basic concepts. Thank you for sharing!
Love you video don't really understand what you are talking about but it is still Educational to me
Try attaching a gesture sensor to configure the twister height by your hand raised on the corresponding level!
This is frickin awesome fella, well done 🥳🙏
Super interesting idea ! Well done !
Other people have lava lamps. This guy has a tornado lamp. Only thing missing is RGB, eventhough I'm normally against that.
But here I make an exception because I think it's actually an improvement.
I'll give you some good advice. Instead of putting ice in the water, put an ultrasonic fogger in there. It will not be a useless "installation" but an air humidifier along with an ionizer. Both beautiful and useful.
Bad. Ass. Glad YT algorithm fed me this gem, excited to catch up on your work!
That's beautiful!
Science is just amazing, and you presented this amazement into a palpable thing, so beautiful, best demonstrative decorative thing I've ever seen! 🤩👍🏻 Thank you man, you are amazing, be prosperous! 👍🏻🎉🎉🎉
That is one of the coolest tornado representations I've ever seen. Awesome job Sir!
The dynamics at play are pretty spot on, although, I wonder if there is a way to stabilize some debris in the lower portion of your tornado there. That would be pretty cool
Very nice. With a few material substitutions, this would be an excellent idea for a flame tornado build.
Great build, a flipped version to give it the growing down look like a real twister would be real cool. would be an amazing little art piece scaled up to room height.
Rather than a hole in the middle of the top cap, try opening a ring around the top just inside of the acrylic (with small supports). This could allow the vortex to widen at the top.