I’ve propagated thousands of red osier. Great video, couple tips I’ve found over the last 15 years. Pencil thick cuttings of last year growth is best. At least two sets of nodes below ground and above ground, lace off the bottom set of nodes. Add hormone if you want but haven’t seen a huge difference using it.
I did this in '22 in Burnett Cty WI. & had great success by simply cutting my canes w/ 4 sets of leaf nodes. I lightly scratched the bottom inch of each cane to remove some bark then dipped that end in a powdered rooting compound. I used a large screwdriver to punch holes in the ground. Put each in the ground deep enough to bury 2 sets of leaf nodes. I planted them in bundles of 5, and caged them. All but 1 bundle was still alive in the fall and I noticed in that particular bundle that the canes were all small in diameter. Keep your canes at least pencil diameter in size.
When you say “bundle” do you mean you put all 5 twigs in the same hole? I’ve been floundering around for the last couple of years with this with limited success. I’m trying the 5 gallon bucket method this year in my garage by the window, then hopefully transplanting later on.
@@slooshark1 Yeah, you can just plug 5 or so together in hopes that one takes off. If they all take off, even better. This works if you're dead set on getting them established in that specific area. I tend to just plug mine in randomly as singles and then fill in with transplanted (roots started) plants in the gaps where none grew.
Went into my wetlands area at the farm in 😊Southern Michigan and laid down a 6 foot wide weedmat. stapled it in and then some simple T posts, the lightweight type and then 4 foot snow fencing attached, and made long fenced in rectangles the size of the 6 foot weed mat and then put the cuttings through holes in the weedmat, and they have grown like crazy. I think the success was keeping out the competition from the canary grass.
I wanted to update you on my dogwood planting. The snow finally melted here in Burnett County WI. When I checked my dogwoods, I found many that had been chewed on by either mice or voles. I caged the dogwoods to protect from deer browsing, but that didn't stop the vermin. I picked up a granular animal deterrent for now but will probably wrap them with maybe burlap next winter before the snow comes for a little added protection.
I had a similar problem with the vermin chewing on my fig. Plants in michagain. the next year Iwrappedd the bush with burlap to protect it from the Harsh winds and in the Spring had found out that I had created A. Perfect protected area for the vermin to live in and climb on. they ate the plants down to the ground, just a thought for you.
I have not. I'm sure that would give them an extra boost. I just plugged a few dozen in last weekend when we had a warm up without using hormone and I usually see 50% success that way. If I plug some more in, I'll try it with the hormone and see if I get better results.
NE Ohio… if I could snap my fingers and have a field / swamp full of ROD I’d probably cut back on the food plots, the deer here love the stuff. I pretty much have to cage it for a couple years or the deer very rarely will let it grow.
I've put a fence around a patch and didn't really notice a difference. If your area is seeing very high browse pressure, then yeah I would. When deer browse on them though, they just nip the tips off which helps to prune the ROD and actually makes them grow faster and more lush. But if you're seeing them buzz them down, I'd protect them.
Late to the party. How much dry weather can they take. I am in north Idaho and we get a lot of moisture but we do have times with no rain for a month of two. I am guessing that is too much for them.
They're a lowland shrub so it will be easiest to get them established in marshy areas. If you're trying to get them established in more upland area, you're definitely going to want to keep them wet until they can establish a big enough root system to be drought resistant.
I'm in western Montana. Ones I have planted in drier areas start out OK but by late summer all died. They need to have their feet wet, especially that first year. You will need to water them, and water them deep. Also, do longer cuttings and put 2/3 in the ground. I bought a 36" long 3/4" diameter hammer drill bit and I have a heavy duty DeWalt hammer drill. So my cuttings are about 40" long and about 25-30" in the ground. .The deeper in the ground the better the chance the soil won't dry out. You also need to control competition for better success. By the way, on the hammer drill use the "rotary" setting and not the hammer setting.
As long as they stay dormant, you can store them indefinitely. It's when they warm up that you need to get them in the ground. Even if you start them in a bucket of water, I found they'll eventually die if you keep them in there for too long.
I trim them with a pruning sheers at a 45° angle. Look where the buds are because that's where the mature tree will shoot out it's next growth or where the cutting will establish roots.
As long as you keep them in a cold place and they stay dormant, you're good. Once it starts to warm up, you're going to want to get them in the ground sooner than later regardless of how you get them started. Sorry, I'll barely have enough cuttings this year to get my own expansion done. I won't have enough to send out.
@@ScottJenkins-vq5gx hey I’ll take what I can get. Haha. I have been looking for it around here but can not locate. I can start with whatever and keep it caged off and expand over time with cuttings it seems.
Ken, Great info as I have ordered Red Osier Dogwood cuttings to be delivered soon. How long do you soak them in the root enhancer before planting them? I think i will try it on some and just soak others before planting. Thanks, Bob SWWI
Until it gets warm and they start to root and leaf out. In my experience, leaving them in the buckets for too long after they start doing that can be bad. So it depends more on the temperature than a specific time.
Northern WI has feet of snow on the ground and southern WI has grass starting to green up so this is a big guess with this crazy weather. But I'm betting we're going to hit another cold spell here before we're out of winter so I wouldn't cut ROD yet. The ROD won't do anything in the water until it gets warm enough to take it out of dormancy so as long as you get it in the water before the shrubs you're cutting off of bud out, you're good. When starting them in water I've found you want to plant them as soon as possible once they start to root and leaf out. Waiting longer can kill them.
If you don't have them anywhere on your property, I would see if anyone you know has any you can clip from. Otherwise you could knock on doors just like if you were trying to get permission to go hunt. Otherwise, some states will sell you a permit to harvest off of public lands but you'll have to look into the laws in your area.
Also, plan for making this a 2 step process. Buy what you can afford, plant them, let them grow one year, and you'll have plenty of cuttings after that growing season going forward.
Trying to watch..but..ahh...buddy those eyes are distracting. You must get away with so much stuff ! I mean...who could be angry, looking in those sky blue eyes ??? 👍🇨🇦
I’ve propagated thousands of red osier. Great video, couple tips I’ve found over the last 15 years. Pencil thick cuttings of last year growth is best. At least two sets of nodes below ground and above ground, lace off the bottom set of nodes. Add hormone if you want but haven’t seen a huge difference using it.
Thanks for sharing!
I did this in '22 in Burnett Cty WI. & had great success by simply cutting my canes w/ 4 sets of leaf nodes. I lightly scratched the bottom inch of each cane to remove some bark then dipped that end in a powdered rooting compound. I used a large screwdriver to punch holes in the ground. Put each in the ground deep enough to bury 2 sets of leaf nodes. I planted them in bundles of 5, and caged them. All but 1 bundle was still alive in the fall and I noticed in that particular bundle that the canes were all small in diameter. Keep your canes at least pencil diameter in size.
Thanks for the additional info!
When you say “bundle” do you mean you put all 5 twigs in the same hole? I’ve been floundering around for the last couple of years with this with limited success. I’m trying the 5 gallon bucket method this year in my garage by the window, then hopefully transplanting later on.
@@slooshark1 Yeah, you can just plug 5 or so together in hopes that one takes off. If they all take off, even better. This works if you're dead set on getting them established in that specific area. I tend to just plug mine in randomly as singles and then fill in with transplanted (roots started) plants in the gaps where none grew.
@@HobbyHarvest okay thanks. And thank you for the great videos!
@Earle Smith I made individual holes for each cane but planted 5 canes to a cage.
Went into my wetlands area at the farm in 😊Southern Michigan and laid down a 6 foot wide weedmat. stapled it in and then some simple T posts, the lightweight type and then 4 foot snow fencing attached, and made long fenced in rectangles the size of the 6 foot weed mat and then put the cuttings through holes in the weedmat, and they have grown like crazy. I think the success was keeping out the competition from the canary grass.
Great way to get them established!
I wanted to update you on my dogwood planting. The snow finally melted here in Burnett County WI. When I checked my dogwoods, I found many that had been chewed on by either mice or voles. I caged the dogwoods to protect from deer browsing, but that didn't stop the vermin. I picked up a granular animal deterrent for now but will probably wrap them with maybe burlap next winter before the snow comes for a little added protection.
Interesting. I typically get deer browse but I've never had issues with vermin. Let me know how that works out for you.
I had a similar problem with the vermin chewing on my fig. Plants in michagain.
the next year Iwrappedd the bush with burlap to protect it from the Harsh winds and in the Spring had found out that I had created A.
Perfect protected area for the vermin to live in and climb on. they ate the plants down to the ground, just a thought for you.
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Great info Bud, 👍🏻
Have you tried coating with Rootone and then just push then into the ground ?
I have not. I'm sure that would give them an extra boost. I just plugged a few dozen in last weekend when we had a warm up without using hormone and I usually see 50% success that way. If I plug some more in, I'll try it with the hormone and see if I get better results.
Doing the same thing on my 🌿Ranch🍀 , how deep you like to stick your cutting . I usually go about 3-6inches .
That's about what I do too. Don't really measure just shove them in as far as they'll go or until they hold themselves up.
NE Ohio… if I could snap my fingers and have a field / swamp full of ROD I’d probably cut back on the food plots, the deer here love the stuff. I pretty much have to cage it for a couple years or the deer very rarely will let it grow.
They really seem to love it, especially when it's young.
Do the cutting need protection from deer in the first couple years?
I've put a fence around a patch and didn't really notice a difference. If your area is seeing very high browse pressure, then yeah I would. When deer browse on them though, they just nip the tips off which helps to prune the ROD and actually makes them grow faster and more lush. But if you're seeing them buzz them down, I'd protect them.
Late to the party. How much dry weather can they take. I am in north Idaho and we get a lot of moisture but we do have times with no rain for a month of two. I am guessing that is too much for them.
They're a lowland shrub so it will be easiest to get them established in marshy areas. If you're trying to get them established in more upland area, you're definitely going to want to keep them wet until they can establish a big enough root system to be drought resistant.
I'm in western Montana. Ones I have planted in drier areas start out OK but by late summer all died. They need to have their feet wet, especially that first year. You will need to water them, and water them deep. Also, do longer cuttings and put 2/3 in the ground. I bought a 36" long 3/4" diameter hammer drill bit and I have a heavy duty DeWalt hammer drill. So my cuttings are about 40" long and about 25-30" in the ground. .The deeper in the ground the better the chance the soil won't dry out. You also need to control competition for better success. By the way, on the hammer drill use the "rotary" setting and not the hammer setting.
Ken, how wet is too wet for the osiers?
As long as the roots are in dirt and they have enough of the branches out of the water, they can take a lot of water.
How long can you store the cuttings before planting? I assume wrap in wet paper towel then put in refridgerator?
As long as they stay dormant, you can store them indefinitely. It's when they warm up that you need to get them in the ground. Even if you start them in a bucket of water, I found they'll eventually die if you keep them in there for too long.
What technique do you use for trimmer mature red osha dog wood?
I trim them with a pruning sheers at a 45° angle. Look where the buds are because that's where the mature tree will shoot out it's next growth or where the cutting will establish roots.
How long do the clippings last before replanting?
How much to send me some to Maryland?!?
This would be an amazing addition to my wet farm
As long as you keep them in a cold place and they stay dormant, you're good. Once it starts to warm up, you're going to want to get them in the ground sooner than later regardless of how you get them started.
Sorry, I'll barely have enough cuttings this year to get my own expansion done. I won't have enough to send out.
How many cuttings are you looking for?
@@ScottJenkins-vq5gx hey I’ll take what I can get. Haha.
I have been looking for it around here but can not locate.
I can start with whatever and keep it caged off and expand over time with cuttings it seems.
@Minute to Kill can you PM me sometime or is that not available on YT?
Ken, Great info as I have ordered Red Osier Dogwood cuttings to be delivered soon. How long do you soak them in the root enhancer before planting them? I think i will try it on some and just soak others before planting. Thanks, Bob SWWI
Until it gets warm and they start to root and leaf out. In my experience, leaving them in the buckets for too long after they start doing that can be bad. So it depends more on the temperature than a specific time.
Okay thanks, and thanks for all the great info you provide!!!!
I'm in northern WI. When would you cut the ROD and place in the bucket with water? Also, when would you plant them?
Northern WI has feet of snow on the ground and southern WI has grass starting to green up so this is a big guess with this crazy weather. But I'm betting we're going to hit another cold spell here before we're out of winter so I wouldn't cut ROD yet. The ROD won't do anything in the water until it gets warm enough to take it out of dormancy so as long as you get it in the water before the shrubs you're cutting off of bud out, you're good. When starting them in water I've found you want to plant them as soon as possible once they start to root and leaf out. Waiting longer can kill them.
Where can I go to find these clippings so I'm not spending a ton to purchase
If you don't have them anywhere on your property, I would see if anyone you know has any you can clip from. Otherwise you could knock on doors just like if you were trying to get permission to go hunt. Otherwise, some states will sell you a permit to harvest off of public lands but you'll have to look into the laws in your area.
Also, plan for making this a 2 step process. Buy what you can afford, plant them, let them grow one year, and you'll have plenty of cuttings after that growing season going forward.
Abnormal high temperatures in Ohio right now. Ground is thawed wiii the cuttings die if I staked now and we got two more months of very cold weather
If they stay dormant, they should be fine but if they start to bud out and then get hit with more cold you could be in for some trouble. I'd wait.
How far north do you live?
I use ROD in SE WI.
Trying to watch..but..ahh...buddy those eyes are distracting.
You must get away with so much stuff !
I mean...who could be angry, looking in those sky blue eyes ???
👍🇨🇦
It took a couple watches, but great video. Very informative. Thank you !
🙏😊🇨🇦
The word is “root” as in boot, not “rut” is in foot.
Have you never heard of "accents" before?