I liked having a landing page for the movie where I could read the synopsis, see the Rotten Tomatoes score and the specs of the movie (4k or HD, Dolby Atmos, etc) in the Library page now, it just takes you directly to the play menu. I would need to run search then select movie I want in order to gain access to the new version of the landing page. This is why I preferred the movies tile for watching owned movies.
@@tadmarshall2739Long pressing our movies does not bring up a menu, nothing happens at all. Really frustrating. I want to easily be able to see 4K, rotten tomatoes rating, length of film, audio supported, etc. This change is terrible.
I noticed today that on the Apple TV, the battery icon under “remotes and devices” in settings has been updated to the modern battery icon used on the iPads and iPhones. I don’t recall seeing this in 17.1.
Thank you for making a Apple TV video please continue to make more Apple TV videos in the future so far you are the first to make one that I have seen thank you again
No! I watch movie on Movies app because it plays the menu of the movie. On Apple TV App, it just automatically plays the movie. You don’t have the option to pick menus
I’m only on 17.1 still and haven’t updated to TV OS 17.2, but I’m seeing if I start one of my purchased movies from the Library tab in the TV app, it starts with the extras menu instead of automatically playing the movie.
@@NomeIndeciso Yeah! I just found out now that it now plays the menu first. Before, it automatically plays the movie. That’s why I use the iTunes Movie app. And I’m now on 17.2 and it runs smoothly better than the previous one. But I’m going to miss the movie app. The wishlist is gone. Weird that they didn’t remove the app.
well. what happen to the wishlist in iTunes movies!!?? 🤔 i have about 50 movies their to purchase later..!! thank you Aaron for the video. i wish you continue talk about other apple os's.
Hopefully they fixed the bug that wouldn’t let me adjust the volume from the Apple remote. I saw several comments online about others having the same issue.
Really bummed about the Movies and TV app going away. It was my much preferred way of browsing my purchased library and the store. And now, just like on Mac, if a movie I haven’t purchased is available to stream anywhere then it bafflingly blocks the ability to preview its iTunes Extras menu.
Okay what have they done with the Wishlist that was in in the old iTunes/Movies app? It seems to have just disappeared! On my second Apple TV that I haven't updated it is still there.
Will Netflix, Disney+, and Prime ever cooperate with the “Up Next” feature of AppleTV? I’d love to see shows and movies from my lists on these apps in the “Up Next” on AppleTV.
It will go after sometime I believe. If they take it off immediately people who use it and have purchased content in them may get confused. So it's better to keep it there for a while to redirect users to the new location of it's contents.
I am finding that the response to pressing the menu button is very slow since TV OS 17. The Weather Channel App Map does not work. It stays at the current time and does not play. I find over all 17.2 feels sluggish
Thanks for the video! Disappointed that the Apple TV+ originals section still doesn’t have easy to find genre categories. There is so much content available say for kids, but you have to scroll endlessly to even find it! They really need to improve the origination because there is a ton of content on there now.
The changes with iTunes is horrid. We dont have any count on how many movies you have in each genre or in total anymore. We lost the synopsis, actors/director, a short feedback and rating, other movies like this movie and many other useful features. I have actually turned off updates on both my Apple TV units due to this. Why not give us more options instead of less? The TV app is not great all in all to begin with.
This update is only worth having if you’re in countries that support most features. I’m South Africa, Disney+, Amazon Prime Video and others are available on Apple TV but don’t appear on the new sidebar. They are still on the Home menu screen. Useless update if you’re not in America or Europe or parts of Asia.
The big thing for me is that the bug making Library useless has been fixed. It used to say "you haven't purchased anything" when in fact I own around 5000 movies. Now it works. They still promote Apple TV+ over purchased content everywhere which continues to piss me off.
Can’t help but feel this was purposely done for anyone who uses those apps regularly imagine if they were gone any idea how many people would complain. I see them gone after the next update
i swear people whos in charger of the apple updates doesn't use the devices themselves, i domt get how they manage to make things complicated for no reason and make it harder for the daily users! in mind is the tvos and the watchos updates. I really hope that they would just go back the old ways
Not all is perfect with TvOs17.2. The other day, when I clicked on content in any app, all that happened was that the icon shimmied but the video didn't come up. I had to do a restart in order for the normal "execute" function on the remote to return.
I really like this update but the only thing I find strange is Apple pushing their services in the menu bar. Shouldn’t Apple+ be part of the channels page? And why is the MLS pass part of the main section?
@@TimedOut...NoWayoI have used VPN and Smart DNS, but they interfere with Zoom and my Prime Membership. I have not found a quick way to turn VPN on and off
does anyone know how to know access iTunes extras in the TV app previously if you we’re watching a movie that included iTunes extras. They used to be an extras button in the video player but now that I am on iOS 17.2 I do not see it.
We had a wishlist under Apple movies that is now disappeared. There is a bunch of foreign films. I was looking forward to getting and have no idea how to find them now.
I complained about this when they did this on the MacOS and now they’ve done it everywhere. For TVs and movies there is no way just to casually browse you can only go by the recommendations and ironically the most bought items… I loved going through and just casually browsing and seeing what was new. I can no longer do that so I guess I won’t be purchasing anything on Apple TV because I have no idea what has newly been released unless it is massively popular and everyone else is buying it…. Truly a terrible move by Apple however, I’m really not surprised… they’ve already ruined my iOS experience since iOS 12.1 so they may as well continue going downhill on my eyes. At least Amazon Prime Video allows you to casually browse and buy TV shows and movies from them, so this could be a good opportunity to switch over
If they are putting movies and tv shows into the store app on the apple tv app why are they not letting us delete the tv shows and movie tiles from the user interface?
Thanks for the review, it was very helpful. Like you said, TV Shows and Movie apps no longer function, but I've discovered I can't delete them using the "shake and pause/play key" routine. Any suggestions?
@@tadmarshall2739 It took me a while to check that out and I see what you're talking about. When I select "Go to Your Purchases" it takes me to the Library in the AppleTV app (that's not confusing or anything).
How can we add shows and movies to wish list now with the new update? I’ve not found it on the Apple TV I’ve an older model as well and have to add them that way and buy them. Any idea if it’s possible to things to wish list with new update on new Apple TV
I have an Apple TV 4K solely as a hub, but it does a poor job-getting around 12 notifications daily about the hub not responding or responding. I hope the new update improves stability and addresses my doorbell issues. Currently, if a visitor presses the bell once, HomeKit fails to send a notification to any iOS device. To receive a notification, the person must press the button a second time. During testing, if the bell hasn't rung in 12-hour increments, it won't notify you.
@@mikewolf5367 it’s wired. I’m still getting the notifications for not responding, responding, but found that other people (on Reddit) were having the same issue with doorbell press issue and one them reported the bug to apple and apple fixed that bug in the new update.
@@kxngdavidI see. If you continue having trouble you might need to perform a factory reset. Do you have a fairly large house? If so it’s possible that there’s either wireless interference between the Matter devices such as the doorbell and the Apple TV and either the Apple TV needs to be moved closer or a Matter booster might need to be implemented.
I’ve got the Apple TV app installed on my smart TV. If you don’t have an Apple TV box (which I don’t) will you still get the same update that you have been talking about in this video
Nope. As of the date of my comment Netflix and Apple has not added that ability to be integrated to the Apple TV app. I don’t know if we’ll actually see that happen because NetFlix and Apple have never really had any agreements like that. I hope one day it will happen, but I just feel Netflix would want people to stay on their app when browsing and not Apple’s.
@@uwekonnigsstaddt524 exactly. Pretty much saying the same thing. Plus with Netflix cracking down on password sharing they most likely would never want Apple to have a piece of their pie.
All I want is for the Apple TV to only take over the hdmi if I use the Apple Remote. I just wanna play my PS5 but this little guy is like “WE STREAMING?!?!”
I wish we could set the default iTunes account for different Apple apps. So Music and photos it uses my account, while for AppleTV my partners account. We use my partners for movies, while I take more photos and have the Music subscription. Nice update. It be nice to be able to remove iTunes apps that are replaced.
Anyone having issues with home hub not working on older Apple TV (2nd generation ATV4K). My smarthome devices are not working in the home app, with my ecobee thermostat. I still need to do an update to see if it fixes it.
Any word about adding AV1 video and all the lossless audio codecs that currently aren't supported? Any fix to the huge AV desync on some apps/content when Match Framerate is active? Having Match Dynamic Range work correctly on Hulu, Peacock, and Prime apps? These are all pretty huge issues to me that, when solved, would really help this streamer stand alone at the top.
We won’t see AV1 support until at least the next hardware refresh of Apple TV, since Apple only recently started supporting AV1 with the A17 Pro chip found in the iPhone 15 Pro and the M3 chip found in the latest Macs.
@@mikewolf5367 good to know, thanks! I really hoped this box would be the universal streaming go to for my main family rm home theater, but with all these problems and limitations I citied, I have to swap between this, the NV Shield Pro, and my Sony A80J's native apps depending on the app and specific content. It would be nice to finally have one streaming box to rule them all.
finally nobody ever makes a tvos update video.
“Finally. Nobody ever makes a tvOS update video.” #GrammarMatters
Amen !
Thank you for covering tvOS update!
I liked having a landing page for the movie where I could read the synopsis, see the Rotten Tomatoes score and the specs of the movie (4k or HD, Dolby Atmos, etc) in the Library page now, it just takes you directly to the play menu. I would need to run search then select movie I want in order to gain access to the new version of the landing page. This is why I preferred the movies tile for watching owned movies.
Long press on the movie icon and a menu pops up. Choose "Go to movie" to get to the landing page.
@@tadmarshall2739 You cannot do that from inside the "Library" page
@@tadmarshall2739Long pressing our movies does not bring up a menu, nothing happens at all. Really frustrating. I want to easily be able to see 4K, rotten tomatoes rating, length of film, audio supported, etc. This change is terrible.
Thank you for covering tvOS update. Appreciate that.
Thanks Aaron. Now I’m able to understand what’s new in this update. Nice video as always
I noticed today that on the Apple TV, the battery icon under “remotes and devices” in settings has been updated to the modern battery icon used on the iPads and iPhones. I don’t recall seeing this in 17.1.
I was hoping Apple Music Cross Fade would come to ATV
Thank you for making a Apple TV video please continue to make more Apple TV videos in the future so far you are the first to make one that I have seen thank you again
Bring Back The Wishlist!!!
If you’re gonna have one show in your library, Galactica is a very fine choice.
Thanks...i'm adding that when I get home from work.
Thank you for this, no ones makes videos on TV OS
Thanks for covering tvOS. Blessings on your day!
Thanks for putting this out.
No! I watch movie on Movies app because it plays the menu of the movie. On Apple TV App, it just automatically plays the movie. You don’t have the option to pick menus
Movie menu is a most
I’m only on 17.1 still and haven’t updated to TV OS 17.2, but I’m seeing if I start one of my purchased movies from the Library tab in the TV app, it starts with the extras menu instead of automatically playing the movie.
@@NomeIndeciso Yeah! I just found out now that it now plays the menu first. Before, it automatically plays the movie. That’s why I use the iTunes Movie app. And I’m now on 17.2 and it runs smoothly better than the previous one. But I’m going to miss the movie app. The wishlist is gone.
Weird that they didn’t remove the app.
Just the video I needed!
well. what happen to the wishlist in iTunes movies!!?? 🤔 i have about 50 movies their to purchase later..!!
thank you Aaron for the video. i wish you continue talk about other apple os's.
Your Wishlist can be accessed for now from the top right corner as usual - but from the «Music» tab instead of the «Movies» tab.
@@bruceinmyheart i didn't find it!!! You mean after the update?? Am not updating yet.
And also you mean in the TV app or where!?
Thanks to that video I’ve noticed that UA-cam Picture in Picture is finally working in UK 🇬🇧 🎉
Hopefully they fixed the bug that wouldn’t let me adjust the volume from the Apple remote. I saw several comments online about others having the same issue.
Really bummed about the Movies and TV app going away. It was my much preferred way of browsing my purchased library and the store. And now, just like on Mac, if a movie I haven’t purchased is available to stream anywhere then it bafflingly blocks the ability to preview its iTunes Extras menu.
Me too I don’t like this new change Apple is crazy
Thank you for this video!
Okay what have they done with the Wishlist that was in in the old iTunes/Movies app? It seems to have just disappeared! On my second Apple TV that I haven't updated it is still there.
Great thorough run through on everything new!!
The new TV app has a Vision Pro vibe
My 2022 Apple TV was super fast on 17.1 but surprisingly it’s even faster on 17.2
Zollotech makes the best videos ever 😊
How the hell do I get rid of the permanent MLS icon in the menu? I’m never going to watch it. Ever.
I just updated
Thank you Aaron
Will Netflix, Disney+, and Prime ever cooperate with the “Up Next” feature of AppleTV? I’d love to see shows and movies from my lists on these apps in the “Up Next” on AppleTV.
Is next up in apple tv app working?
Why not remove the Movies and TV Show app icons instead of a redirect to another app?
It will go after sometime I believe. If they take it off immediately people who use it and have purchased content in them may get confused. So it's better to keep it there for a while to redirect users to the new location of it's contents.
I am finding that the response to pressing the menu button is very slow since TV OS 17. The Weather Channel App Map does not work. It stays at the current time and does not play. I find over all 17.2 feels sluggish
They need split screen with workout and FaceTime. For coworkouts
Thanks for the video! Disappointed that the Apple TV+ originals section still doesn’t have easy to find genre categories. There is so much content available say for kids, but you have to scroll endlessly to even find it! They really need to improve the origination because there is a ton of content on there now.
The changes with iTunes is horrid. We dont have any count on how many movies you have in each genre or in total anymore. We lost the synopsis, actors/director, a short feedback and rating, other movies like this movie and many other useful features. I have actually turned off updates on both my Apple TV units due to this. Why not give us more options instead of less? The TV app is not great all in all to begin with.
Haven’t updated my Apple TV since TV OS 17.0 😅
Security update it
Thanks @Aaron. Your videos are the best. Thanks for covering tvOS..it’s very few that do.
Thanks! This is great!
This update is only worth having if you’re in countries that support most features.
I’m South Africa, Disney+, Amazon Prime Video and others are available on Apple TV but don’t appear on the new sidebar. They are still on the Home menu screen.
Useless update if you’re not in America or Europe or parts of Asia.
The big thing for me is that the bug making Library useless has been fixed. It used to say "you haven't purchased anything" when in fact I own around 5000 movies. Now it works.
They still promote Apple TV+ over purchased content everywhere which continues to piss me off.
They should have removed the two icons for iTunes if they just direct you to Apple TV
Can’t help but feel this was purposely done for anyone who uses those apps regularly imagine if they were gone any idea how many people would complain. I see them gone after the next update
@@Snoopi.7Yep. And yes.
I’m not a fan of the redesigned TV app.
Got your notification aaron
Removing Favorites and wishlists is ridiculous.
It seems Apple is trying to add the Vision Pro UI style to tvOS and if it successful that might lead to a redesign for iOS in visionOS style
i swear people whos in charger of the apple updates doesn't use the devices themselves, i domt get how they manage to make things complicated for no reason and make it harder for the daily users! in mind is the tvos and the watchos updates. I really hope that they would just go back the old ways
Thanks i m using Apple TV 4K
My TV 50 infucs apple tv remote control not saport volume and on off please reply
Not all is perfect with TvOs17.2. The other day, when I clicked on content in any app, all that happened was that the icon shimmied but the video didn't come up. I had to do a restart in order for the normal "execute" function on the remote to return.
iPhone storage in setting seems to crash repeatedly…
Mine never crashed but would sometimes not connect to my matched HomePod minis that I’m using as speakers.
I really like this update but the only thing I find strange is Apple pushing their services in the menu bar. Shouldn’t Apple+ be part of the channels page? And why is the MLS pass part of the main section?
I have apple 4k and Roku ultra, it seem the Roku gives a better picture while the Apple is darker and duller
How to customise menu bar ? I need to add more app on it
Any simple way to see a count of purchased movies / songs?
I don’t think so
Never did any research on this particular apple device. Can one install IPTV players on this?
Weird they would move iTunes movies and shows given they just redirect now
It might be part of the security update
only small issue tubi tv app and disneyplus
credits are cut within a movie
Still waiting for hi res audio from Apple Music. With an hdmi 2.2 output, there’s no logical reason to not offer it via the Apple TV 4K.
Any Alexa control support?
Apple needs to take other regions seriously. Most of these features aren’t available outside the US.
VPN helps
@@TimedOut...NoWayoI have used VPN and Smart DNS, but they interfere with Zoom and my Prime Membership. I have not found a quick way to turn VPN on and off
Very upsetting, it’s as if they refuse to acknowledge these regions as key client areas.
Bro! Simple features@@uGcinikhaya
Just saw this. Can I connect my Apple TV via VPN?@@TimedOut...NoWayo
You typed “tvOS 17.3” during your segment that was talking about Dolby Atmos and Dolby Surround.
We in New Zealand used to buy 0.99c movies. These are now gone
does anyone know how to know access iTunes extras in the TV app previously if you we’re watching a movie that included iTunes extras. They used to be an extras button in the video player but now that I am on iOS 17.2 I do not see it.
We had a wishlist under Apple movies that is now disappeared. There is a bunch of foreign films. I was looking forward to getting and have no idea how to find them now.
At 3:00 you accidentally put 17.3
Can I use homepods for Facetime calls now is the question?
How come Journal isn’t on the IPad ?
To Apple: “ What’s wrong with you people???!!!”
Siri is unable to shut down iphone now after update 🤦♂ on iphone 15 pro max
Did I see the Bee Movie?
Aaron is the best
How do you add the Amazon prime Disney+ etc services to the Apple TV app?
Hi! possible to hide the MLS section ?
waiting for them to let me watch Disney plus and Max in Thailand 😓
I complained about this when they did this on the MacOS and now they’ve done it everywhere. For TVs and movies there is no way just to casually browse you can only go by the recommendations and ironically the most bought items… I loved going through and just casually browsing and seeing what was new. I can no longer do that so I guess I won’t be purchasing anything on Apple TV because I have no idea what has newly been released unless it is massively popular and everyone else is buying it…. Truly a terrible move by Apple however, I’m really not surprised… they’ve already ruined my iOS experience since iOS 12.1 so they may as well continue going downhill on my eyes.
At least Amazon Prime Video allows you to casually browse and buy TV shows and movies from them, so this could be a good opportunity to switch over
If they are putting movies and tv shows into the store app on the apple tv app why are they not letting us delete the tv shows and movie tiles from the user interface?
Thanks aaron, i do have an issue since late 16tvOS that I can’t update apps on my apple tv unless i delete the app and reinstall it.
They so need to put Safari on Apple TV
TikTok too.
@@xSnappaNo.
They need to bring out a fix for all video being darker than every other streaming device
This broke my Apple TV plus app just shows the movies I bought and can’t go onto Apple TV plus
Zoom on Apple TV is finally available in this version!
Thanks for the review, it was very helpful. Like you said, TV Shows and Movie apps no longer function, but I've discovered I can't delete them using the "shake and pause/play key" routine. Any suggestions?
These apps work fine for me, I just have to choose "Purchased".
@@tadmarshall2739 It took me a while to check that out and I see what you're talking about. When I select "Go to Your Purchases" it takes me to the Library in the AppleTV app (that's not confusing or anything).
How can we add shows and movies to wish list now with the new update? I’ve not found it on the Apple TV I’ve an older model as well and have to add them that way and buy them. Any idea if it’s possible to things to wish list with new update on new Apple TV
Still will not turn TV and AV on and off with the new 4K unit! The eight year old original unit does it just fine. 😡
I am still on 16. I wish Philo would fix their buffering issue on TV OS
But how can you use facetime via Apple TV? There is no camera as far as I know yet?
uses iphone camera
Thanks
I’m on a 13 Pro and since updating to 17.2, my battery life has been horrendous. 😅
Hey zollo what happened to the wish list.
In the movie app , the « wish list » has dissapear …… not nice
ipad new update available creat a video thanks
My device still 17.1 no update yet for me
My Apple TV 4K 3 Gen has a bug in it. When I watch UA-cam, it freezes and starts to think every minute. tvos 17.4.
I have an Apple TV 4K solely as a hub, but it does a poor job-getting around 12 notifications daily about the hub not responding or responding. I hope the new update improves stability and addresses my doorbell issues. Currently, if a visitor presses the bell once, HomeKit fails to send a notification to any iOS device. To receive a notification, the person must press the button a second time. During testing, if the bell hasn't rung in 12-hour increments, it won't notify you.
Is the ATC connected with Ethernet or wireless? If the latter then it might be an internmittent wireless issue.
@@mikewolf5367 it’s wired. I’m still getting the notifications for not responding, responding, but found that other people (on Reddit) were having the same issue with doorbell press issue and one them reported the bug to apple and apple fixed that bug in the new update.
@@kxngdavidI see. If you continue having trouble you might need to perform a factory reset. Do you have a fairly large house? If so it’s possible that there’s either wireless interference between the Matter devices such as the doorbell and the Apple TV and either the Apple TV needs to be moved closer or a Matter booster might need to be implemented.
Finally native VPN support..
I have ExpressVPN
I still have those apps working on mine even after updating and they’re both showing their respectful content ? 🧐🧐 weird glitch
I’ve got the Apple TV app installed on my smart TV. If you don’t have an Apple TV box (which I don’t) will you still get the same update that you have been talking about in this video
You mean the updated side menu bar interface in the Apple TV app? I don’t see why not.
@@mikewolf5367 yes
Anyone having sound issues after installation of tidal music app ?
If you have Netflix does it show on the left menu bar like Amazon, discovery, Disney etc.?
Nope. As of the date of my comment Netflix and Apple has not added that ability to be integrated to the Apple TV app. I don’t know if we’ll actually see that happen because NetFlix and Apple have never really had any agreements like that. I hope one day it will happen, but I just feel Netflix would want people to stay on their app when browsing and not Apple’s.
They compete for viewers. It would be like a Ford dealer offering Chevy vehicles in the same building.
@@uwekonnigsstaddt524 but what about the other services that are direct competitors as well?
@@uwekonnigsstaddt524 exactly. Pretty much saying the same thing. Plus with Netflix cracking down on password sharing they most likely would never want Apple to have a piece of their pie.
All I want is for the Apple TV to only take over the hdmi if I use the Apple Remote. I just wanna play my PS5 but this little guy is like “WE STREAMING?!?!”
I wish we could set the default iTunes account for different Apple apps. So Music and photos it uses my account, while for AppleTV my partners account. We use my partners for movies, while I take more photos and have the Music subscription. Nice update. It be nice to be able to remove iTunes apps that are replaced.
Anyone having issues with home hub not working on older Apple TV (2nd generation ATV4K). My smarthome devices are not working in the home app, with my ecobee thermostat. I still need to do an update to see if it fixes it.
Any word about adding AV1 video and all the lossless audio codecs that currently aren't supported? Any fix to the huge AV desync on some apps/content when Match Framerate is active? Having Match Dynamic Range work correctly on Hulu, Peacock, and Prime apps? These are all pretty huge issues to me that, when solved, would really help this streamer stand alone at the top.
We won’t see AV1 support until at least the next hardware refresh of Apple TV, since Apple only recently started supporting AV1 with the A17 Pro chip found in the iPhone 15 Pro and the M3 chip found in the latest Macs.
@@mikewolf5367 good to know, thanks! I really hoped this box would be the universal streaming go to for my main family rm home theater, but with all these problems and limitations I citied, I have to swap between this, the NV Shield Pro, and my Sony A80J's native apps depending on the app and specific content. It would be nice to finally have one streaming box to rule them all.