I appreciate this. Everybody always says “run away” but I’m a dad with two young kids, the likelihood that I’ll have to stand and fight, at least for a little while, while my wife and kids get away is pretty high. My ability to just up and run away as fast as I can departed once I started having babies.
100% brother, as my Krav instructor put it, "the day you became mom or dad is also the day you signed up to possibly take the "L" so your family can take the "W".
Get a firearm, train with it, and if you cant do that, learn to actually fight. This guy is teaching bunk. About the only thing he's teaching well, is to be aggressive. Beyond that, if you mimic this stuff you're going to get your kids kidnapped.
Seriously man thank you. People who always suggest running need to consider your point here. Running away and leaving family behind would be a horrible mistake. You have to earn that escape for you and your family by FIGHTING for it.
Man just by watching his angles, bursts of energy, agility, and unique striking strategy you can tell that man has the ability to be extremely vicious.
I really like Alan's concept of a fighting structure. Being able to cover and strike from the same position is great. This worked well when being attacked by two opponents at the same time. My suggestion is that once you make space between them, you need to move out behind one of them, thus keeping them linear to you. You can use one as a shield against the other before you escape.
yeah stepping left or right will cause them to either bump into each other or for one to step in front of the other which makes is basically a one on one deal and if you got good cardio you can just dance left and right till they get smoked and either quit or drop that guard and expose that chin. seen it done.
This is where a little aikido could go a long way to helping someone in a 1 vs 2. Honestly never thought id say anything positive about aikido in a street fight. 😂
You know that Gracie talk every fight goes to the ground ? We have a saying in the prison "you go to the ground you die" It's good to apply one on one but any grappling with multiple attackers or weapons you lose.
In my Gracie JJ system, they teach to AVOID going to the ground if at all possible if there are multiple attackers and then ways to get back up quickly if you do end up in the ground.
As a guy with a Judo background, who then learned the hard way that most of that goes out the window when facing multiple opponents, I agree strongly with Alan's methodology, here. One thing he didn't cover is movement that lines up opponents between you and them or the "shielding with someone else's body" approach, but I'm sure that would be part of a longer session. The main thing is that you do not want to ever go to ground and grapple it out, it's just a great way to get curb stomped by the guy's buddy. And the concept of victory by submission is completely absent, as they don't give up forever because you got them in a sweet arm bar. And you probably don't have time for a total choke-out, so it's like Alan said, smash the joint to cause max damage in the smallest amount of time, and move. Protect your vitals, move fast and in directions advantageous to you and not them, and do max damage in the shortest time. Winning is destroying their ability to fight, not convincing them to give up cause you're a better grappler. Of course, now I'm old and fat, with two bad knees, and can't do any of that any longer, but it's still the way I think! If anything, now I have to fight dirtier and sneakier than ever before, but that's the best way to win in a self-defense situation.
The two toughest opponents in my dojo are my Sensei and the senior most blackbelt there, one 72 and one 62...now for them it is more about technique and precision more than brute strength. Strategies and thinking than brawn. Also yes! We've done the person shielding like you are saying. I've noticed it confuses the attackers as well as helps put distance between you and them. Good stuff!
Adding on top of what Captain camo said, its not for sound effects, its number one purpose... Each time you strike, and you do an intense expulsion of air, it tightens/flexes your core, so in the event the opponent strikes you in the body, you aren't gonna get the wind knocked out of you. This is something anyone trained in striking martial arts learns as a white belt. Itch, nii, sun, she
Watching this guy move remind me of me and my four brothers and our friends having street fights we had no experience and back Wasn’t big and had no idea what that was we just did what came natural to us
Yeah, that’s how drills work. Any individual drill is only applicable for a few seconds in real time. That’s why you do many different drills and also do some sort or pressure testing, freeplay, free sparring to work on combining drills and being able to apply them in an as-needed basis. Every martial arts system is like that
I’m here for the UA-cam blackbelt comments about how they know better. Dudes out here saying run. He covered that. “If you have the option to exit”. Adapt your mind brothers and learn.
Nice...and...when able use a single person...as the shield btwn you and others as well...multiple attackers is tuff..and best case get out..or smash fast and get out...def dnt stick around
Three men are in the middle of a desert when their car breaks down. For their hike to town, they each decide to take one thing with them. One man takes a jug of water. The second man takes a sandwich. The last man takes one of the car doors. The first man says to the last man: "I'm bringing the water because if I get thirsty, I can take a drink. And it makes sense to bring a sandwich in case we get hungry, but why bring a car door?" The last man replies, "Well, if I get hot, I can just roll down the window."
i'm thinking this might work if you can't step left or right and cause them to either bump into each other or for one to step in front of the other. sorta in a tight space where you can't maneuver kinda deal. key word being MIGHT. one has to train a LOT to be good at any type of fighting. and we didn't even bring up how important cardio is for any style of combat.
@@av1204 i think the real question is if it would work for anyone not just the dude whose trained for YEARS to get to where he's at with this technique for one. but xitaris still has a valid point. a strong spar session with dudes of same weight would have to be witnessed for one to have more faith in this technique.
@@scottanddebranelson8419 you try to get out as one tries to get your blind spot or behind you. You could be beating one guy up but the guy that goes behind you gets you.
Why would you need that as proof? 99 percent of people don't train, and most fights are not with people of equal weight or height. These are concepts that can be used by anyone.
Very cool. I don’t know Sifu Baker personally, but he and I are Kung Fu brothers under Professor James Cravens of the Chinese Boxing Institute International. Love this stuff.
thinking about having "ballistic force" applied to that elbow joint in that ground position makes me woozy. great example of how different a life and death fight looks from the sports
UFC doesnt fight multiple opponents on the street without gloves and possibly weapons involved. I like the head cover thing. Saw a navy seal do it in past while going for pistol. He used one hand cover and elbow with other strong arm and strong arm to draw his pistol and place to his lower rib cage to fire weapon keeping it retracted so the assailant doesn't grab it. This guy reminds me a little of my old sifu John Rister in Irving Tx but probably more lethal. Love the JKD poster on the wall. JKD guy here from back in '96! 👍
When a fight is a sanctioned fight you have rules. When it’s not it’s survival. Totally different tactics and techniques. One you go for clean strikes. The other you’re trying to maim/disable/💀 your opponent as quickly as possible with the least amount of effort/risk involved.
Exactly. No rules in the street. You need not try to k*ll an assailant, but you meet force (violence) with greater force. To stop someone from hurting you, you hurt them more.
Yeah but the skills are still applicable, you just tweak it for a life and death fight. We all know sports have rules, that's not news. But it still builds good fundamentals. It's not hard to switch to oblique kicking someone's knee out or gouging out eyes or ripping out testicles from MMA training. You will also be much tougher from the training and more relaxed in actual conflict.
I got jumped by 2 guys one time and was super lucky because they kinda stood there instead of attacking at the same time. I fought one off and they both bounced. I NEVER EVER EVER want to have to fight anyone much less 2 or more at a time. Just run if you can. I was blessed I only caught one punch and the second guy ran off after I hit the first
Were your self defense classes exclusively training your running then? Just running sprints all day? I’m guessing not, and they still trained you on engaging the threat. This stuff is for when the “IF possible” isn’t possible.
I get what he's saying however I would've tagged him quite a bit. Fighting multiple opponents is highly fluid, no never stand still and you never allow yourself to commit to ground Fighting. Angles and sure footed movements are your friends. And no I'm not talking out of my tail end, I grew up street Fighting before street Fighting was cool and one on one. Always try to keep one of your opponents between you and your second opponent and use them for offense and defense by making them unsure of each other by causing them to hit each other.
yeah stepping left or right makes them either bump into each other or causes one to step in front of the other. if you got good cardio you can possibly just dance around till they get tired and give up or till they drop that guard and expose that chin.
i, like you, grew up fighting in the streets. the first thing i noticed was he chose to fight between two assailants instead of moving to a position that put them on the same side.
Not once did he mention “stacking” threats. As you maneuver in space trying to put one threat behind/in front of one another. Think how the 300 Spartans funneled the Persians in using terrain.
@@Dex_A problem is you dont control when where you get attacked, it may be in a confined space where you dont have the chance to do it. The one down side of training in a nice training centre with a wide flat open matted area is that its so best case that its basically fantasy land. In the real world there will always be choke points an something close by to trip over
You can be like Bruce Lee and ensure that only one assailant at a time attacks you. Stacking is one way. Using objects in your environment , tables, cars, benches, trees etc also works.
John said he prefers being a ground fighter, yet his "co-attacker" is on the floor getting pummeled. Fighting with The Star and The Instructor, she is relegated to getting the punishment.
Exactly. I have been advising against BJJ for this exact reason. Going to ground is the last thing you want to do against multiple folks. Its called "last man standing" for a reason. I wrestled as a kid, then got into Judo in college. Not bad, but I think a good standing art like Boxing or Muay Thai may be smarter. As a senior citizen now, I carry Pepper Spray, which I believe in. (spray not gel) I do NOT trust a taser as they are expensive and more of a crap shoot in effectivness. What scares me the most are people armed with a knife. Then its really "spray-and-pray".
i wouldn't recommend staying in between the two. we learned at the island to step left or right and circle them. it will almost always cause them to bump into each other or for one to step in front of the other thus making the fight a one on one endeavor or a test of cardio which most folks who don't work that cardio will lose. it doesn't take long to run out of juice during a fight if you are out of shape. i was like 23 and jumped on this dude and i was spent in like 30 seconds cause i hadn't worked out in over two years and smoked a pack a day. if you can't maneuver then you gotta do whatcha gotta do and this would for sure work after you trained for a while. and there in lies the problem most aint got the money to train the hardest cause that costs a good deal of money i'm sure. folks can barely do the basic workouts much less spend another two hours (or more) a week required to "be good" at these techniques.
Amazing how many people regurgitate what they heard in some other video like run away OK that's great if your by yourself and have the opportunity and hopefully your fast enough to ou run your assailants but what if with loved ones and your backed into a corner aka nowhere to run? Lol it doesn't hurt to just watch the video you just might learn something useful before you make a dogmatic statement like just run away.
I'm a purple belt. But I'm old, so I'm a black belt in carrying pepper spray. In college- I totally won a fight against two very large dudes. Both outweighed me by 50-75 lbs. This is 25 years before I learned BJJ, so no skills on my end. Closing time at bar.... and they decided the 150 lb scrawny guy was a good target. It was Missoula Montana. I was there for the Mountain West XC invite. I placed top 10. My mile PR at this time was 4:05 I had
Have you seen The Ultimate Self Defense Challege ? I would like to see something similar only with different combative systems including Target Focus Training, Urban Combatives, Keysi, and others. Pit them against each and find the best overall system.
always good to be prepared had have some sort of training in some form or another. but 99 percent of people dont need to be worried about fighting multiple attackers at once but it never hurts to be prepared.
Kfm leaves way too many openings and you can get hurt really bad. For a boxer they can hunt that liver the jaw and behind the ear and the kidneys no problem. Fight science did incredible work on this. But one of my favorite practitioners is Paul Vunak. Usually what they do is they line one opponent up into the other ones to shield physically not goofy like or you do a bursting technique where you just explode on one attacker and then deal with the other one. Paul Vunak tends to do the Wing Chun rolling punches in succession and it works. Another strategy I seen was if you're pinned against the wall by multiple guys you can grab their hand and shimmy your body along the wall this collapses the force.
What you learn in the dojo is all controlled fighting and will only teach you so much. What you encounter in the "real world" there are no rules, so you will have to think, adapt and fight/defend in a totally different manner/way as your dojo fighting techniques may not always work. CQC(close quarters combat) is great to learn and have as a skill, but you shouldn't rely solely on it and should only be used as a last resort with mace or firearm. Leave your ego at home, control your emotions and avoid any confrontations.
When Christopher Nolan made his Batman films, he chose Keysi as Batman's fighting style. I don't think the fight scenes in the Nolan Batman films are particularly great (save for the final fight between Batman and Bane), but Keysi remains a system with some really great concepts, even though it doesn't seem to exist under that name any longer (I believe that the two men who founded the system parted ways).
I would love to see this demonstrated force on force, full speed. It’s easy to look impressive when the “attackers” are moving half speed. Very Doug Marciaida-ish. Met Doug at blade show… very soft hands. Be aware of who you follow on UA-cam.
There is a video that I can't remember who put out, that talks about multiple attackers in a ground fight. He takes one guy down and slams an arm bar onto the supposed attacker and has this giant "I win!" grin on his face. That is when opponent 2 comes and stomps on it. 😆
I trained in wrestling and then judo for years. I carry pepper spray now. Sometimes ccw on long trips. Little did I know my biggest threat was being backstabbed and sabotaged by my own weak family members. I was watching outward, when I should have been training for betrayal.
I don't have any fight or self defense experience. How hard is it to inflict a fight stopping blow? Like breaking a limb or doing something to the eyes? I'm just wondering if there are any quick and dirty things to do so you can get away quickly if running right away isn't an option.
Ive seen cctv footage of three guys getting attacked in an elevator by a physco. None of them could fight but the only one who didnt get knocked out was the one who anchored his head like this man
The older you get, the more likely that is. Also more likely that the courts in any sane area will give you a lot of leeway in using disproportionate force in self-defense.
@@dashcammer4322 yeah ultimately you need a gun or blade in that situation and in my state of Georgia 16-3-21 would justify a use of lethal force in a two on one situation. I come from the combat sports community and Alan baker definitely has a diverse background but honestly there’s a lot of nonsense in the keysi fighting method and because it’s “too dangerous” he can’t actually pressure test it, nor do we have one piece of real evidence of it working in an actual fight at this point it’s all theory. Now I will say this the frame that KFM uses is actually very legit it’s a great way to defend from an unknown attack but this flowing and moving around the head would require you to have the craziest reflexes on earth to actually pull off. Good boxing or Thai boxing fundamental would be a realistic way to footwork your way around situations like that especially if you can find a reputable bare knuckle coach give them all forehead and Elbows they’ll destroy their own hands.
I have doubts. Which is unfortunate, because I feel like the ability to fight multiple attackers is more important than regulated fighting techniques for the average person. Fighting multiple attackers long enough to get away.
@ThePoorBoy skull is a lot more protective than your abdominal muscles. You can incapacitate someone with one strike to the liver, just like the head. Equally important to protect.
This structure is taught in Krav Maga to defeat the usual ambush that forces someone to go hands on. Really good to see serious combatives and not wannabe MMA.
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I appreciate this. Everybody always says “run away” but I’m a dad with two young kids, the likelihood that I’ll have to stand and fight, at least for a little while, while my wife and kids get away is pretty high. My ability to just up and run away as fast as I can departed once I started having babies.
100% brother, as my Krav instructor put it, "the day you became mom or dad is also the day you signed up to possibly take the "L" so your family can take the "W".
Yeah, running away is NOT always an option.
Get a firearm, train with it, and if you cant do that, learn to actually fight. This guy is teaching bunk. About the only thing he's teaching well, is to be aggressive. Beyond that, if you mimic this stuff you're going to get your kids kidnapped.
@@Gotjits0156 Sounds like we need a matchup. Show him what's what.
Seriously man thank you. People who always suggest running need to consider your point here. Running away and leaving family behind would be a horrible mistake. You have to earn that escape for you and your family by FIGHTING for it.
"notice how I blocked that punch with my crotch?" HILARIOUS!!!!
The proper terminology should be, “I absorbed the punch with my crotch.”
Man just by watching his angles, bursts of energy, agility, and unique striking strategy you can tell that man has the ability to be extremely vicious.
That's his schtick, he acts like he is going 100% while all the people training with him are going an unsure 10%.
WOW! Quite the bag of wind, aren't we. Where can we see your videos?
I really like Alan's concept of a fighting structure. Being able to cover and strike from the same position is great. This worked well when being attacked by two opponents at the same time. My suggestion is that once you make space between them, you need to move out behind one of them, thus keeping them linear to you. You can use one as a shield against the other before you escape.
yeah stepping left or right will cause them to either bump into each other or for one to step in front of the other which makes is basically a one on one deal and if you got good cardio you can just dance left and right till they get smoked and either quit or drop that guard and expose that chin. seen it done.
This is where a little aikido could go a long way to helping someone in a 1 vs 2.
Honestly never thought id say anything positive about aikido in a street fight. 😂
He's using Keysi fighting method
I'm commenting to drive the algorithm. My grappling days are over.
I thought so, too, until I was assaulted by multiple assailants while walking my dogs in the park in broad daylight. 🤕
@@ytty5183. . .was it a hate crime based upon your ethnicity?
I hope your injuries recovered fully.
@@ytty5183I was attacked by a dog and got my ass kicked.
@@SoldierDrew Yes it was a hate crime. Do I report this to Kamala Harris?
You know that Gracie talk every fight goes to the ground ? We have a saying in the prison "you go to the ground you die"
It's good to apply one on one but any grappling with multiple attackers or weapons you lose.
In my Gracie JJ system, they teach to AVOID going to the ground if at all possible if there are multiple attackers and then ways to get back up quickly if you do end up in the ground.
yes sir! We don’t pull guard in self defense situations, we have a better chance of escaping and getting on our feet ❤
😂😂😂 urban myth.
If you can't grapple you're going to the ground.
@@stevensdefenseacademyllc7898
These people seem to forget about breaking grips and sprawling.
As a guy with a Judo background, who then learned the hard way that most of that goes out the window when facing multiple opponents, I agree strongly with Alan's methodology, here. One thing he didn't cover is movement that lines up opponents between you and them or the "shielding with someone else's body" approach, but I'm sure that would be part of a longer session. The main thing is that you do not want to ever go to ground and grapple it out, it's just a great way to get curb stomped by the guy's buddy. And the concept of victory by submission is completely absent, as they don't give up forever because you got them in a sweet arm bar. And you probably don't have time for a total choke-out, so it's like Alan said, smash the joint to cause max damage in the smallest amount of time, and move. Protect your vitals, move fast and in directions advantageous to you and not them, and do max damage in the shortest time. Winning is destroying their ability to fight, not convincing them to give up cause you're a better grappler. Of course, now I'm old and fat, with two bad knees, and can't do any of that any longer, but it's still the way I think! If anything, now I have to fight dirtier and sneakier than ever before, but that's the best way to win in a self-defense situation.
Exactly. Had my brown belt in judo 35yrs ago. Now I carry pepper spray (not gel) when I leave the house.
The two toughest opponents in my dojo are my Sensei and the senior most blackbelt there, one 72 and one 62...now for them it is more about technique and precision more than brute strength. Strategies and thinking than brawn. Also yes! We've done the person shielding like you are saying. I've noticed it confuses the attackers as well as helps put distance between you and them. Good stuff!
I love that he's doing his own sound effects. 😂
Controlled expulsion of air adds power to the strike and keeps you breathing. If you hold your breath you’ll gas out or pass out. Like weightlifting.
Adding on top of what Captain camo said, its not for sound effects, its number one purpose... Each time you strike, and you do an intense expulsion of air, it tightens/flexes your core, so in the event the opponent strikes you in the body, you aren't gonna get the wind knocked out of you.
This is something anyone trained in striking martial arts learns as a white belt.
Itch, nii, sun, she
Not even CGI
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I like the "Hutz"! 💪🏿
Reading your book now and it’s been a blessing!
I was reading the comments while watching, but his sound effects brought my attention back to watching.
I have not seen Alan in years. Not since he came to East TN and did some training and teaching with us.
love it. Framing as i refer to it is a versatile
Alan is a beast ! And damn fast !
Great movement & guarding, shielding & attacking. Defensive & Offensive simultaneously as in Jeet Kune Do.
Thank you Sir
That red head is awesome!
No kidding!
Who is she?
@@vladmordekeiser1054 Fiance of the guy giving the class. Alan Baker
@@graywind4326 thanks!
Always liked redheads 😎
You are the ripple at the beginning of the tsunami. Thank you John
I’d like to see this in sparing and implementing it in a weapon based system
Watching this guy move remind me of me and my four brothers and our friends having street fights we had no experience and back Wasn’t big and had no idea what that was we just did what came natural to us
“Get up quickerly” 😂
I’m moving from WA to GA, near this location, this month. I can not wait to pop by for a chat to see if he can help me train.
Welcome to Georgia!
Well, thank you, sir.
I’m excited and nervous.
Thank you 😊
very good stuff. lots to think about there and use!!!!
This seems like it could be applicable for about 2-5 seconds of a fight.
That how long the average fight goes.
Yeah, that’s how drills work. Any individual drill is only applicable for a few seconds in real time. That’s why you do many different drills and also do some sort or pressure testing, freeplay, free sparring to work on combining drills and being able to apply them in an as-needed basis. Every martial arts system is like that
Sick elbow snap.
Ouch.
I’m here for the UA-cam blackbelt comments about how they know better. Dudes out here saying run. He covered that. “If you have the option to exit”. Adapt your mind brothers and learn.
I know majick munky punch
@_munikykok_ I know dragon fist 🐉 👊
Stay in shape to run or fight. Most of us will never experience this, but it is possible. Those elbows that we have are great clubs!
That first reaction when he was explaining @1:15 .... always ready....damn!!!
I enjoy the way you teach sir
I wud definitely call Allen Sir,,,,that man be ruff..great show ...usual...
the sound effects always helped me too
I think keysi is best used in combination with boxing, wrestling, bjj, and muay thai.
Nice...and...when able use a single person...as the shield btwn you and others as well...multiple attackers is tuff..and best case get out..or smash fast and get out...def dnt stick around
Alan Baker is so awesome!
So cool! This is right down the road from me! I would be highly interested in getting some information and taking some classes
Three men are in the middle of a desert when their car breaks down. For their hike to town, they each decide to take one thing with them.
One man takes a jug of water. The second man takes a sandwich. The last man takes one of the car doors.
The first man says to the last man: "I'm bringing the water because if I get thirsty, I can take a drink. And it makes sense to bring a sandwich in case we get hungry, but why bring a car door?"
The last man replies, "Well, if I get hot, I can just roll down the window."
That's a good one 😂
This has been one of my favorite jokes since I heard it in the late 80s early 90s. Still great to this day. Thanks for sharing.
I thought he was going to beat the other two with the car door and take the water and sandwich 😂
@@tonyjay617
Nah, no Democrats in this joke.
I likee dis guy! 😂 Strong core fighting, offensive defense. No wasted movent. 💪💯
Show me in a near-full force spar with people in a similar weight class and i _might_ believe this is viable.
i'm thinking this might work if you can't step left or right and cause them to either bump into each other or for one to step in front of the other. sorta in a tight space where you can't maneuver kinda deal. key word being MIGHT. one has to train a LOT to be good at any type of fighting. and we didn't even bring up how important cardio is for any style of combat.
if you ever meet alan in real life, you would realize youd want more than just one budy to take him on.
@@av1204 i think the real question is if it would work for anyone not just the dude whose trained for YEARS to get to where he's at with this technique for one. but xitaris still has a valid point. a strong spar session with dudes of same weight would have to be witnessed for one to have more faith in this technique.
@@scottanddebranelson8419 you try to get out as one tries to get your blind spot or behind you. You could be beating one guy up but the guy that goes behind you gets you.
Why would you need that as proof? 99 percent of people don't train, and most fights are not with people of equal weight or height. These are concepts that can be used by anyone.
Very cool. I don’t know Sifu Baker personally, but he and I are Kung Fu brothers under Professor James Cravens of the Chinese Boxing Institute International. Love this stuff.
thinking about having "ballistic force" applied to that elbow joint in that ground position makes me woozy. great example of how different a life and death fight looks from the sports
UFC doesnt fight multiple opponents on the street without gloves and possibly weapons involved. I like the head cover thing. Saw a navy seal do it in past while going for pistol. He used one hand cover and elbow with other strong arm and strong arm to draw his pistol and place to his lower rib cage to fire weapon keeping it retracted so the assailant doesn't grab it. This guy reminds me a little of my old sifu John Rister in Irving Tx but probably more lethal. Love the JKD poster on the wall. JKD guy here from back in '96! 👍
Dude's neck looks like he learned to protect his head the hard way
The best channel for practical self defense
When a fight is a sanctioned fight you have rules. When it’s not it’s survival. Totally different tactics and techniques. One you go for clean strikes. The other you’re trying to maim/disable/💀 your opponent as quickly as possible with the least amount of effort/risk involved.
Exactly. No rules in the street. You need not try to k*ll an assailant, but you meet force (violence) with greater force. To stop someone from hurting you, you hurt them more.
Yeah but the skills are still applicable, you just tweak it for a life and death fight. We all know sports have rules, that's not news. But it still builds good fundamentals. It's not hard to switch to oblique kicking someone's knee out or gouging out eyes or ripping out testicles from MMA training. You will also be much tougher from the training and more relaxed in actual conflict.
Awesome...
I got jumped by 2 guys one time and was super lucky because they kinda stood there instead of attacking at the same time. I fought one off and they both bounced. I NEVER EVER EVER want to have to fight anyone much less 2 or more at a time. Just run if you can. I was blessed I only caught one punch and the second guy ran off after I hit the first
Thank You sir 🇺🇸👍
Question ❓ Do i need to make the swooshing sounds when doing these moves?
Okay, great I’m ready now.
actually fram ing can be done from the bottom to protect and fight your way out
Cool video john ....wiv love and jesus blessings..from Thailand
ALL My Self Defense Instructors Said,
IF Possible, Try To Run Away!
Were your self defense classes exclusively training your running then? Just running sprints all day? I’m guessing not, and they still trained you on engaging the threat. This stuff is for when the “IF possible” isn’t possible.
One of the first things he said was to leave
Even in defensive firearm training we're told, "The best fight is the one you're not in." THEN they train you in tactics and mindset.
I get what he's saying however I would've tagged him quite a bit. Fighting multiple opponents is highly fluid, no never stand still and you never allow yourself to commit to ground Fighting. Angles and sure footed movements are your friends. And no I'm not talking out of my tail end, I grew up street Fighting before street Fighting was cool and one on one. Always try to keep one of your opponents between you and your second opponent and use them for offense and defense by making them unsure of each other by causing them to hit each other.
100%
at least you are speaking from experience.
yeah stepping left or right makes them either bump into each other or causes one to step in front of the other. if you got good cardio you can possibly just dance around till they get tired and give up or till they drop that guard and expose that chin.
i, like you, grew up fighting in the streets. the first thing i noticed was he chose to fight between two assailants instead of moving to a position that put them on the same side.
I think he's just showing concepts.
Not once did he mention “stacking” threats. As you maneuver in space trying to put one threat behind/in front of one another.
Think how the 300 Spartans funneled the Persians in using terrain.
That was my point as well. As soon as you make space, you want to keep your opponents linear to you and use one as a shield against the other(s).
That stood out to me too; the professional training I've received on multiple opponent tactics focused primarily on stacking and creating space.
Well said boys. Grateful for the content regardless cause it allows us to discuss what we like, what we don’t and sustains/improves.
@@Dex_A problem is you dont control when where you get attacked, it may be in a confined space where you dont have the chance to do it. The one down side of training in a nice training centre with a wide flat open matted area is that its so best case that its basically fantasy land. In the real world there will always be choke points an something close by to trip over
You can be like Bruce Lee and ensure that only one assailant at a time attacks you. Stacking is one way. Using objects in your environment , tables, cars, benches, trees etc also works.
Stay safe and keep training!
only fight i ever lost was 5 v 1. its dangerous, for sure.
This aughta be a good one.
John said he prefers being a ground fighter, yet his "co-attacker" is on the floor getting pummeled. Fighting with The Star and The Instructor, she is relegated to getting the punishment.
This guy is intense!! People should leave him TF alone
Exactly. I have been advising against BJJ for this exact reason. Going to ground is the last thing you want to do against multiple folks. Its called "last man standing" for a reason. I wrestled as a kid, then got into Judo in college. Not bad, but I think a good standing art like Boxing or Muay Thai may be smarter. As a senior citizen now, I carry Pepper Spray, which I believe in. (spray not gel) I do NOT trust a taser as they are expensive and more of a crap shoot in effectivness. What scares me the most are people armed with a knife. Then its really "spray-and-pray".
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You're going to the ground if you can't grapple
Run, go to blade, this is good stuff too.
i wouldn't recommend staying in between the two. we learned at the island to step left or right and circle them. it will almost always cause them to bump into each other or for one to step in front of the other thus making the fight a one on one endeavor or a test of cardio which most folks who don't work that cardio will lose. it doesn't take long to run out of juice during a fight if you are out of shape. i was like 23 and jumped on this dude and i was spent in like 30 seconds cause i hadn't worked out in over two years and smoked a pack a day. if you can't maneuver then you gotta do whatcha gotta do and this would for sure work after you trained for a while. and there in lies the problem most aint got the money to train the hardest cause that costs a good deal of money i'm sure. folks can barely do the basic workouts much less spend another two hours (or more) a week required to "be good" at these techniques.
what is "the island"?
@@driver3899 Parris Island, SC
Would love to take a class. Looks very interesting 🤔
This is so wildly different, it is hard to buy into but I want to, still skeptical though.
May God bless you all!
Amazing how many people regurgitate what they heard in some other video like run away OK that's great if your by yourself and have the opportunity and hopefully your fast enough to ou run your assailants but what if with loved ones and your backed into a corner aka nowhere to run? Lol it doesn't hurt to just watch the video you just might learn something useful before you make a dogmatic statement like just run away.
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I'm a purple belt. But I'm old, so I'm a black belt in carrying pepper spray.
In college- I totally won a fight against two very large dudes. Both outweighed me by 50-75 lbs. This is 25 years before I learned BJJ, so no skills on my end. Closing time at bar.... and they decided the 150 lb scrawny guy was a good target.
It was Missoula Montana.
I was there for the Mountain West XC invite.
I placed top 10. My mile PR at this time was 4:05
I had
This. Pepper spray.
Anyone know what pants John is wearing?
i started running
Have you seen The Ultimate Self Defense Challege
? I would like to see something similar only with different combative systems including Target Focus Training, Urban Combatives, Keysi, and others. Pit them against each and find the best overall system.
Where does one get the contact details for Baker? I am looking for training, presently.
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always good to be prepared had have some sort of training in some form or another. but 99 percent of people dont need to be worried about fighting multiple attackers at once but it never hurts to be prepared.
I don't know about that. Seems groups of teenagers are attacking folks pretty regularly.
Can we get a demonstration of him using this technique against John and the dwarf? It would be interesting to see how effective it is in sparring.
This episode is John Lovell saying "No" to cloning.
Now that's real-life situation!
John moves slowly, this dude quickly spazzes out. 🤣
Generally when a guy spazzes out, it's very indicative of his level as a martial artist... Not in a good way.
Boxing. That's how. Make them move linearly towards you as you move. There are many videos of boxers doing this in the street.
boxing and judo
Kfm leaves way too many openings and you can get hurt really bad. For a boxer they can hunt that liver the jaw and behind the ear and the kidneys no problem. Fight science did incredible work on this. But one of my favorite practitioners is Paul Vunak. Usually what they do is they line one opponent up into the other ones to shield physically not goofy like or you do a bursting technique where you just explode on one attacker and then deal with the other one. Paul Vunak tends to do the Wing Chun rolling punches in succession and it works. Another strategy I seen was if you're pinned against the wall by multiple guys you can grab their hand and shimmy your body along the wall this collapses the force.
What you learn in the dojo is all controlled fighting and will only teach you so much.
What you encounter in the "real world" there are no rules, so you will have to think, adapt and fight/defend in a totally different manner/way as your dojo fighting techniques may not always work.
CQC(close quarters combat) is great to learn and have as a skill, but you shouldn't rely solely on it and should only be used as a last resort with mace or firearm.
Leave your ego at home, control your emotions and avoid any confrontations.
I would say: fight dirty and use anything as an advantage.
This is fighting.
Reminds me of Karate!
John, can you please try to reach out to Mike Glover. 🙏
I’m a firm believer you should never go to the ground in the street, unless you have more friends with you than your opponent does.
When Christopher Nolan made his Batman films, he chose Keysi as Batman's fighting style. I don't think the fight scenes in the Nolan Batman films are particularly great (save for the final fight between Batman and Bane), but Keysi remains a system with some really great concepts, even though it doesn't seem to exist under that name any longer (I believe that the two men who founded the system parted ways).
I would love to see this demonstrated force on force, full speed. It’s easy to look impressive when the “attackers” are moving half speed. Very Doug Marciaida-ish. Met Doug at blade show… very soft hands. Be aware of who you follow on UA-cam.
There is a video that I can't remember who put out, that talks about multiple attackers in a ground fight. He takes one guy down and slams an arm bar onto the supposed attacker and has this giant "I win!" grin on his face. That is when opponent 2 comes and stomps on it. 😆
I trained in wrestling and then judo for years. I carry pepper spray now. Sometimes ccw on long trips.
Little did I know my biggest threat was being backstabbed and sabotaged by my own weak family members. I was watching outward, when I should have been training for betrayal.
I don't have any fight or self defense experience. How hard is it to inflict a fight stopping blow? Like breaking a limb or doing something to the eyes? I'm just wondering if there are any quick and dirty things to do so you can get away quickly if running right away isn't an option.
When I took martial arts classes, they always told us self-defense was a getaway method.
This reminds me of Keysi fighting method
That's what it is. He even mentions it toward the beginning.
Ive seen cctv footage of three guys getting attacked in an elevator by a physco. None of them could fight but the only one who didnt get knocked out was the one who anchored his head like this man
For all the folks that say run away….what if they are faster than you?🤣
The older you get, the more likely that is. Also more likely that the courts in any sane area will give you a lot of leeway in using disproportionate force in self-defense.
@@dashcammer4322 yeah ultimately you need a gun or blade in that situation and in my state of Georgia 16-3-21 would justify a use of lethal force in a two on one situation. I come from the combat sports community and Alan baker definitely has a diverse background but honestly there’s a lot of nonsense in the keysi fighting method and because it’s “too dangerous” he can’t actually pressure test it, nor do we have one piece of real evidence of it working in an actual fight at this point it’s all theory. Now I will say this the frame that KFM uses is actually very legit it’s a great way to defend from an unknown attack but this flowing and moving around the head would require you to have the craziest reflexes on earth to actually pull off. Good boxing or Thai boxing fundamental would be a realistic way to footwork your way around situations like that especially if you can find a reputable bare knuckle coach give them all forehead and Elbows they’ll destroy their own hands.
I have doubts. Which is unfortunate, because I feel like the ability to fight multiple attackers is more important than regulated fighting techniques for the average person.
Fighting multiple attackers long enough to get away.
Can they stop a 45
The more I watch KEYSI the more it feels like a modernized, distilled evolution of muay boran.
John would run like those delta force guys that ran away after a month in Ukraine, yet he acts so brave on youtube haha
DC, home of the badasses. lol.
"HaHa"...Yep. You're a joke.
Deployments for you? MOS?
Real easy to be a tough guy behind a keyboard...
@@adammcafee6502 Its literally what i said about grifter John...
Strike when you can, grapple when you have to.
My brain keeps shouting "liver exposure"
What's more important, your brain or your liver?
(PS -- Never ask an alcoholic this question.)
@ThePoorBoy skull is a lot more protective than your abdominal muscles. You can incapacitate someone with one strike to the liver, just like the head. Equally important to protect.
In a street fight I learned to fire and fall back , run, move in a circle, run , punch kick, run, punch kick, move , run.
This structure is taught in Krav Maga to defeat the usual ambush that forces someone to go hands on. Really good to see serious combatives and not wannabe MMA.