Many people I know have a severe lack of desire and interest in learning. I mean, One should have the desire to learn for the sake of learning alone and for the sake of the thrill of learning a new thing. So if someone lacks the curiosity to dig deeper to understand what is going on inside, and wants to get a job, then he/she should sincerely evaluate their goals and approach.
@@opethforlife You're so spot on and I would go further to add that applies to life in general, not just specific to jobs industry. We shlould seek to expand our capacity and seek for more truths in life to pass on to the next generation.
"Many people I know have a severe lack of desire and interest in learning. I mean, One should have the desire to learn for the sake of learning alone" Well said! I couldn't agree more.
"I believe that if you lack interest in learning, it might be a sign that you should explore another field that genuinely excites you. In coding, for instance, continuous learning is a big part of the job. If you're not passionate about coding, you're likely to struggle with the constant need to learn new things. However, if you love what you do, such as coding, you'll probably enjoy the learning process as well, making it a better career choice in the long run. Of course, there are exceptions, but I think you get my point."
Fr idk if anyone has ever complained about job hirers being 'gatekeepers' for not giving them a job ppl call the absolute tools on stack overflow gatekeepers bc they tell beginners to go read 200 pages of docs they don't understand rather than give them a simple 2 sentence answer lmao
Im not being funny, but isnt being referred to a 200 page doc the same as referring to textbooks for a degree (and actually even less)? Much of the time, simply a beginner asking a 1-2 sentence answer doesnt actually teach them anything except to copypaste something that they then cant adapt or are too scared to deviate from. If a beginner wants to build themselves into being a strong competitor against a full-on graduate (ie. the _direct_ competition), then they're just going to have to push themselves. If a 200 page doc (understandably) sounds like a big ask, then that person may have to either keep on asking around, or else google their question and see the resource material/forum threads that have been made around the same topic. The above method is much more educational, as youre learning alternative methods and other things entirely ob the way to finding the equivalent of a 1-2 sentence answer. Which again, is no different from what degree students do (burning the midnight oil)
I started my journey in tech in 2019 with a coding bootcamp, and it was very clear by the end of the bootcamp that it wasn't enough. I simply did not understand how or why anything worked, so I decided to pursue a CS degree. While working on my degree, I did occasional features for the open source frontend of a community I was very involved in, and when I finished my degree the owner of the site offered me a 6 month contract as a full stack engineer working with him which was later extended to 1 year. Coming up on the end of that now and starting to look for a new role. I guess my point is that I can say with absolute surety that I would not have been able to perform my job without a strong understanding of CS fundamentals and would have completely failed if I'd tried to take this on straight out of that bootcamp. People might not like to hear this, but it is absolutely true and it needs to be said. Thank you for speaking truth! 💪
@@Fooney1 What are you putting on your resume or saying in the interview that tells the recruiter what political affliliation you have? You never should be talking politics in the workplace. No matter if you are left wing or right wing. Because no company wants to hire a union supporting communist either lol. Keep things centrist in office and on Linkedin man.
The biggest problem is that boot camps and some UA-camrs say that you can become job-ready in six months to a year and it’s just not true. I don’t know if it was ever true or if they’re all just lying. I fell for a boot camp’s lies and realized after finishing that I wasn’t even close to job-ready. I ended up getting a CS master’s degree from a program set up for career changers and now I’m hoping that I’m ready and someone will hire me. I really hate that there are so many liars out there. The boot camp I attended wasn’t even bad but they are incredibly overpriced and lie about job prospects.
While I appreciate you for taking a bold stance, I'd say that the problem is people sharing their opinions/views about the tech industry in the first place. You shouldn't make these videos. Whether negative or positive. Let's accept the fact that it worked out for us and we have a job, but is it gonna, or not gonna, work for anyone else? Let them find out in their process, let's not jump ahead and make predictions. Whether positive or negative emotions are shared, it affects everyone badly in a way. Being in a position of wanting a job is terrifying, so people are gonna freak out more and more.
@@SidTheITGuy Gatekeeping me sharing my opinion on a video about gatekeeping. Love the irony lol. This comment made me smile. Thank you. More videos like this to come!
@@emmanuelo1177 Yeah, with his recent content, he just seems like he's trying to farm engagement off of UA-camr drama and preach to UA-camrs what opinions they're allowed to share. I don't take comments like this too seriously.
@@DonTheDeveloper wow okay, that hurt. Seeing you taking shots at me without understanding what I said. When I said You shouldn't make these videos, I didn't mean "You" you, I meant all of us content creators. I do have this problem with my words that come off a certain way other than what I mean, guess I can't do anything about that. But seeing you jump on the above comment so quickly and judging me like that hurt. I thought you were one of the real ones, but no.
Sometimes the best advice is to give up on one thing and look elsewhere. Effort alone won't get you where you want to be in the time-frame that you have in mind. That's just how it is.
Well one thing is for certain, Entry Level is Dead. If you want a Job in Tech, you have to train yourself to a Junior level at the very least and probably Network your way into a job. Honestly , I don't even think this is just a problem in Tech anymore, I think this is just the result of the United States Economy over years of ignoring the Deficit.
Yeah, it doesn't take a superstitious person to realize that nepotism is the de facto way to get a job these days. I've been applying to everything from $20/hr (about 40% my last wage) up through a healthy "continuation" wage within my career path. Since my last contract ended, there's been nothing. I only got that contract after 6 months of looking thanks to a friend in the company. My last job before that was also in-network. Noticing I haven't gotten meaningful interviews since about 2021, here we are approaching 2025... Globalization certainly is a factor, telework is easier than ever. There's other aspects of tech that act as force multipliers. Companies can very easily shrink their workforce while scaling these days.
@@DonTheDeveloper I guess, I am willing to be corrected if you can post an example of a true entry level position. Most I have seen says, 1 to two year experience at least thus they are Junior level position pretending to be Entry. I agree with your video, I just think the bar has been raised to Junior Level.
@@computernerd8157 There's postings on indeed in new hampshire, a small state, for software engineers. They are for eversource, a power company. They say "requires 0 to 3 years of experience". There's another company hiring in new hampshire at "all experience levels". It doesn't matter what your education is- you deserve $20-30/hr if you are working for somebody else, it's what every other job pays. Skilled menial labor pays twice that, because the jobs are actually hard and require more training and experience than white-collar jobs. The economy is flat for wages, if you want more you have to risk starting your own business and eating dirt. I'm sorry somebody told you that you deserve to make good wages working for somebody else, but that's never really how it's worked anywhere on this planet for any length of time.
I attended a full year software engineering certification program. At the end of the program, I knew I wasn't ready. There are still a ton of projects I want to build and a lot of deeper understandings I would love to gain. I also want to at least build a project that real users will use, not just some pretty website with pretty buttons I will strap to my portfolio and start applying to jobs that pay six figures
I’m a computer engineering student and I still learned and I am learning everything on my own outside of school. If you think that people who have CS degrees halfway more fundamental and foundational knowledge you are gravely mistaken. A lot of them don’t even learn outside of what they were taught in university. Theo has great video on this, where he sees CS grads that don’t even know what an API is or how to use Git because they weren’t taught it in school. The coding boot camp people at the very least were getting jobs no problem prior to the market turning shit
Gatekeeping will always lead me to build my own stuff, make money from it just to prove a point. Then they wanna reach out. Yeah…no thank you. It’s too late. 🤷🏾♂️ That happened to me before and I said no.
Last time I did a interview I noticed that I don't remember the fundamental though I have gone through them more than 4000hrs before learning abstraction, framework, libraries but since I did not get in touch with those I fail the technical but I knew most of them getting into tech is easier with knowing the fundamentals. It's about shortselling yourself and not putting much effort in there is no gate keeping.
There are plenty experienced developers with lack of fundamentals. What makes you stand out and move ahead is to have a few tricks up your sleeve. You don't need to torture yourself as much. This video feels just like the other UA-camrs make for profit in their own ways...pure gaslighting. It's not about brute force, it's about understanding what the market needs.
No man you don't get it every single software engineer needs to be able to make the glup shitto algorithm from scratch in C otherwise software engineering's holiness will be tainted. Many people are under the false impression that software engineering is about "being able to build useful things" it's actually about doing 300 projects before even applying to any jobs so you can be as miserable as everyone else.
I’m a beginner, and have never held a job, but I kinda figured this to begin with. In an industry with so many free, yet still incredibly high quality, resources not have an expectation of beginners to not have utilized all of those free resources? It makes no sense to think that way.
"In an industry with so many free, yet still incredibly high quality, resources not have an expectation of beginners to not have utilized all of those free resources?" what?
Trust me, you aren't. A lot of successful people or people who have developed a mindset of taking ownership and are actually accomplishing things don't have time to argue with the internet which is full of people with a victimhood mindset.
You came to me at the right time. I'm self taught and i'm 5months into this learning journey. Began with the Basics of Html and css and made sure I was proficient in them. Proceeded to learning vanilla JavaScript and a bit of php and managed to build simple 6page website for my Dad. There was so much that still felt like magic to me. So I went as far down as learning about arm assembly and how they're compiled to really understand what's going on and I'm gaining a better understanding on how software and hardware interact and actually how to architect it. Was kinda doubting If I should really dive that deep but u've really given me confidence to continue as now I know my future self will thank me for this investment. My job is kinda flexible so I can really dive in. Big ups bro👊🏽
@@DonTheDeveloper Yeah it's starting to get fun. Going that deep really got me to understand why the gatekeeping is necessary. It's crazy how loose the the standard of entry was. People just be adding junk on top junk and using duck tape to hold it all together. Couldn't understand it before but now I can't usee it. I guess I've joined the dark side.
Do not take a coding bootcamp if you have basic understanding fundamentals of software developer because coding bootcamp is teaching faster they had no concern if the student understand what the intructor teach and the reality learning coding bootcamp is not enough you need to create alots of project I had no college degree but I enrolled to coding bootcamp not to learned the tech-stack they offered but only for certificate just to show to the client that I have a suitable as a software developer because I have an understanding of how the techstack they teach I achieved the first honorable reward that makes my resume and portfolio outstanding but taking a CS degree is important if I have enough savings I will take a degree just to teach in a university teaching is a key to learn more.
My experience of gatekeepers has been in asking a question or questions to a knowledgable person and being given some bullshit answer or runaround. They, for whatever reason, don't want me to gain advantage over them, don't like me, or something weird but that's far and few in-between. I've met a lot of cool people who share their honest thoughts and opinions. This video makes it sound like people who tell the truth is a gatekeeper. However I disagree. I don't see honesty and truth as gatekeeping. Only the act of being dodgy and blowing someone off especially when you know that you can point them in the right direction. Good thing there's so much resources these days that you don't need to rely on dodgy naysayers, i.e. don't treat me like a variable and assign me an immutable value. 😂
the points you are making are quite valid tbh. The current market is no longer on the "low supply" end. I mean if I was a company owner myself and I had let's say 100,000 applications of really good developers and I had to choose only 5 of them, I will surely become very picky. It's just like dating. Companies are the woman in this case, and the applicants are the men. It's brutal for us. I would say that it's the market that's to be blamed. Because there's a "supply overflow" of developers right now and the only thing that one can do is to improve themselves.
AHH this is what I've been saying. It's so frustrating seeing the hyper-optimism and false hope they give people which only makes things worse in reality.
Great video Don as a recent bootcamp grad working at startup, you have to know fundamentals and practice every day if not, won't make it in the industry.mastering DSA so I can get into fang company next year
great message. Dunno why ppl get mad. Videos don`t bite :D If you offer value - you get what you deserve. It is up to you. The only thing I would disagree, is using "CS grad" as a metric for "having good foundation". A CS grad who haven`t put craptons of time into grinding and practice, will be the same, as bootcamp-er, who haven`t put craptons of time into grinding and practice. Mb in some top-tier Unis there is a process to force students to get a strong grasp and be ready to work, but in most cases students are 100% dependent on their own willpower and discipline, and there are lots of graduates who are absolutely helpless in terms of building real projects.
Hi Guys ... this is Skeletor ... And I support Don's message. Just Quit. ....... Maybe the grass is greener over there .... because You're not over there Effin It UP! 🤣 ... Until We Meet Again!
There are also people like the Techlead who tell you that tech is a failing industry for a good career, but this might be true for many industries. Tech and AI could be the at the tip of the sinking Titanic where people are trying to rush to for a decent job
Thanks for your honesty. I am watching only two UA-camrs you and Cristian Dev I think a lot of UA-camrs lying to aspiring developers. If I try to get you point you are saying to aspiring build projects without relying on frameworks in order to have solid fundamentals. Do you think those projects built without frameworks can we put it on portfolio. I am building a web application with vanilla JS customers can check cars price or financing cars .
>>> "all of you know of a UA-camr who has created videos that is overly optimistic and telling you if you just want it enough if you just you know at least build kind of a basic website and you can use react in your application or you could just build a really simple API there's always a company out there that wants to give you a chance" Uhhh ... I *wish* this were bullshit. I *wish* this industry was gatekept by developers who demand some level of skill or expertise at all. But the truth is there really is no bar at all to enter this industry. Maybe the job market is bad right now, but that's another matter and that affects everyone skilled or unskilled. As long as you can write a basic website you're good; after that it's just dumb luck who you can land an interview with and then dumb luck whether they choose to go with you or the next guy. If you can code a basic website, they don't know any better how to judge between hiring you and the next guy who can also build a basic website.
On a 1 on 1 basis? No. You'll have to search for a lot of small communities for something like that. But, if you're just looking for someone that holds people to a higher standard with their advice, you might want to check out ThePrimeagan.
@@DonTheDeveloper Thanks Don. Love your content brother. I'm a construction worker looking to transition into tech. I just started learning to code about a month ago. Your content is helping to keep me grounded in truth and not lies, butterflies and rainbows. Thanks bro
right so when I go to search linking I need to read 8000 pages of GCC documentation. Maybe I should write Python Webapps the size of a DVD game. Wow yeah we live in a time when there is 300 ways to do something and nobody actually provides a full tutorial. Yeah right buddy.
By the time I get my first developer job I’ll be a senior dev lol. But that’s also because I’m just learning and not trying to find a job. I never feel I’m good enough to start applying.
I like this guy. He is keeping it real. Be careful with the market. There is plenty of money to be made to tell you what you want to hear. Confirmation Bias goes both ways and both make money.
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Many people I know have a severe lack of desire and interest in learning. I mean, One should have the desire to learn for the sake of learning alone and for the sake of the thrill of learning a new thing. So if someone lacks the curiosity to dig deeper to understand what is going on inside, and wants to get a job, then he/she should sincerely evaluate their goals and approach.
@@opethforlife You're so spot on and I would go further to add that applies to life in general, not just specific to jobs industry. We shlould seek to expand our capacity and seek for more truths in life to pass on to the next generation.
"Many people I know have a severe lack of desire and interest in learning. I mean, One should have the desire to learn for the sake of learning alone"
Well said! I couldn't agree more.
@@joshuagfttcwatchman6210 You're absolutely right.
@@DonTheDeveloper Thank you.
"I believe that if you lack interest in learning, it might be a sign that you should explore another field that genuinely excites you. In coding, for instance, continuous learning is a big part of the job. If you're not passionate about coding, you're likely to struggle with the constant need to learn new things. However, if you love what you do, such as coding, you'll probably enjoy the learning process as well, making it a better career choice in the long run. Of course, there are exceptions, but I think you get my point."
Gatekeeping to me was when you ask a question in the the Linux forum and they all yell at you to figure it out yourself.
Fr idk if anyone has ever complained about job hirers being 'gatekeepers' for not giving them a job ppl call the absolute tools on stack overflow gatekeepers bc they tell beginners to go read 200 pages of docs they don't understand rather than give them a simple 2 sentence answer lmao
@@hazhup51 Exactly. Use google to find someone telling you to google it. Blows my lid lol.
Im not being funny, but isnt being referred to a 200 page doc the same as referring to textbooks for a degree (and actually even less)?
Much of the time, simply a beginner asking a 1-2 sentence answer doesnt actually teach them anything except to copypaste something that they then cant adapt or are too scared to deviate from.
If a beginner wants to build themselves into being a strong competitor against a full-on graduate (ie. the _direct_ competition), then they're just going to have to push themselves.
If a 200 page doc (understandably) sounds like a big ask, then that person may have to either keep on asking around, or else google their question and see the resource material/forum threads that have been made around the same topic.
The above method is much more educational, as youre learning alternative methods and other things entirely ob the way to finding the equivalent of a 1-2 sentence answer. Which again, is no different from what degree students do (burning the midnight oil)
I started my journey in tech in 2019 with a coding bootcamp, and it was very clear by the end of the bootcamp that it wasn't enough. I simply did not understand how or why anything worked, so I decided to pursue a CS degree. While working on my degree, I did occasional features for the open source frontend of a community I was very involved in, and when I finished my degree the owner of the site offered me a 6 month contract as a full stack engineer working with him which was later extended to 1 year. Coming up on the end of that now and starting to look for a new role.
I guess my point is that I can say with absolute surety that I would not have been able to perform my job without a strong understanding of CS fundamentals and would have completely failed if I'd tried to take this on straight out of that bootcamp. People might not like to hear this, but it is absolutely true and it needs to be said. Thank you for speaking truth! 💪
And kudos to you for taking initiative outside of your CS degree. These are the kind of actions that create opportunities! That's awesome.
Gatekeeping is done to create a lobby and so the developers can hire their own friends and contacts, so that they dont feel threatened at work.
It’s not developers who are gatekeeping. It’s recruiters and hiring managers. Big difference.
They're only "gatekeeping" you to the extent that you aren't qualified or a good culture fit. It's on you to improve yourself - not on them.
@@DonTheDeveloper a good culture fit = no right wing lol
@@Fooney1 What are you putting on your resume or saying in the interview that tells the recruiter what political affliliation you have? You never should be talking politics in the workplace. No matter if you are left wing or right wing. Because no company wants to hire a union supporting communist either lol. Keep things centrist in office and on Linkedin man.
@@NeekOW2 I know how to play the game but the DEI thing is hard to beat when you are not DEI. Pretending to be gay could work though.
@Fooney1 I'm a latino with a degree and 3 years of experience and I'm getting nothing man. DEI is a myth bro.
The biggest problem is that boot camps and some UA-camrs say that you can become job-ready in six months to a year and it’s just not true. I don’t know if it was ever true or if they’re all just lying. I fell for a boot camp’s lies and realized after finishing that I wasn’t even close to job-ready. I ended up getting a CS master’s degree from a program set up for career changers and now I’m hoping that I’m ready and someone will hire me. I really hate that there are so many liars out there. The boot camp I attended wasn’t even bad but they are incredibly overpriced and lie about job prospects.
While I appreciate you for taking a bold stance, I'd say that the problem is people sharing their opinions/views about the tech industry in the first place. You shouldn't make these videos. Whether negative or positive.
Let's accept the fact that it worked out for us and we have a job, but is it gonna, or not gonna, work for anyone else? Let them find out in their process, let's not jump ahead and make predictions. Whether positive or negative emotions are shared, it affects everyone badly in a way. Being in a position of wanting a job is terrifying, so people are gonna freak out more and more.
@@SidTheITGuy Gatekeeping me sharing my opinion on a video about gatekeeping. Love the irony lol.
This comment made me smile. Thank you. More videos like this to come!
@Sid but you share your opinion about other UA-camrs on your channel and you're telling him not to share his opinion?
Really?
Wow
@@emmanuelo1177 Read my comment again, and understand the context. Please.
@@emmanuelo1177 Yeah, with his recent content, he just seems like he's trying to farm engagement off of UA-camr drama and preach to UA-camrs what opinions they're allowed to share. I don't take comments like this too seriously.
@@DonTheDeveloper wow okay, that hurt. Seeing you taking shots at me without understanding what I said.
When I said You shouldn't make these videos, I didn't mean "You" you, I meant all of us content creators.
I do have this problem with my words that come off a certain way other than what I mean, guess I can't do anything about that.
But seeing you jump on the above comment so quickly and judging me like that hurt. I thought you were one of the real ones, but no.
Sometimes the best advice is to give up on one thing and look elsewhere. Effort alone won't get you where you want to be in the time-frame that you have in mind. That's just how it is.
Well one thing is for certain, Entry Level is Dead. If you want a Job in Tech, you have to train yourself to a Junior level at the very least and probably Network your way into a job. Honestly , I don't even think this is just a problem in Tech anymore, I think this is just the result of the United States Economy over years of ignoring the Deficit.
"Entry Level is Dead"
This video wouldn't be complete without the fear porn comments.
Yeah, it doesn't take a superstitious person to realize that nepotism is the de facto way to get a job these days. I've been applying to everything from $20/hr (about 40% my last wage) up through a healthy "continuation" wage within my career path. Since my last contract ended, there's been nothing. I only got that contract after 6 months of looking thanks to a friend in the company. My last job before that was also in-network.
Noticing I haven't gotten meaningful interviews since about 2021, here we are approaching 2025... Globalization certainly is a factor, telework is easier than ever. There's other aspects of tech that act as force multipliers. Companies can very easily shrink their workforce while scaling these days.
@@DonTheDeveloper I guess, I am willing to be corrected if you can post an example of a true entry level position. Most I have seen says, 1 to two year experience at least thus they are Junior level position pretending to be Entry. I agree with your video, I just think the bar has been raised to Junior Level.
@@computernerd8157 There's postings on indeed in new hampshire, a small state, for software engineers. They are for eversource, a power company. They say "requires 0 to 3 years of experience". There's another company hiring in new hampshire at "all experience levels". It doesn't matter what your education is- you deserve $20-30/hr if you are working for somebody else, it's what every other job pays. Skilled menial labor pays twice that, because the jobs are actually hard and require more training and experience than white-collar jobs. The economy is flat for wages, if you want more you have to risk starting your own business and eating dirt.
I'm sorry somebody told you that you deserve to make good wages working for somebody else, but that's never really how it's worked anywhere on this planet for any length of time.
More like mid level or senior.
I attended a full year software engineering certification program. At the end of the program, I knew I wasn't ready. There are still a ton of projects I want to build and a lot of deeper understandings I would love to gain. I also want to at least build a project that real users will use, not just some pretty website with pretty buttons I will strap to my portfolio and start applying to jobs that pay six figures
I’m a computer engineering student and I still learned and I am learning everything on my own outside of school. If you think that people who have CS degrees halfway more fundamental and foundational knowledge you are gravely mistaken. A lot of them don’t even learn outside of what they were taught in university. Theo has great video on this, where he sees CS grads that don’t even know what an API is or how to use Git because they weren’t taught it in school. The coding boot camp people at the very least were getting jobs no problem prior to the market turning shit
Gatekeeping will always lead me to build my own stuff, make money from it just to prove a point. Then they wanna reach out. Yeah…no thank you. It’s too late. 🤷🏾♂️
That happened to me before and I said no.
Last time I did a interview I noticed that I don't remember the fundamental though I have gone through them more than 4000hrs before learning abstraction, framework, libraries but since I did not get in touch with those I fail the technical but I knew most of them getting into tech is easier with knowing the fundamentals.
It's about shortselling yourself and not putting much effort in there is no gate keeping.
Well, the thing is the market is now saturated with juniors, mostly from bootcamps, so to stand out you need to gitgud.
There are plenty experienced developers with lack of fundamentals. What makes you stand out and move ahead is to have a few tricks up your sleeve. You don't need to torture yourself as much. This video feels just like the other UA-camrs make for profit in their own ways...pure gaslighting. It's not about brute force, it's about understanding what the market needs.
No man you don't get it every single software engineer needs to be able to make the glup shitto algorithm from scratch in C otherwise software engineering's holiness will be tainted. Many people are under the false impression that software engineering is about "being able to build useful things" it's actually about doing 300 projects before even applying to any jobs so you can be as miserable as everyone else.
@@hazhup51 I'm so sick of "tech youtube" they're full of you know what if I'm frank. lol
Would I want someone protecting me from working with idiots? Yes, yes I would.
I’m a beginner, and have never held a job, but I kinda figured this to begin with. In an industry with so many free, yet still incredibly high quality, resources not have an expectation of beginners to not have utilized all of those free resources? It makes no sense to think that way.
"In an industry with so many free, yet still incredibly high quality, resources not have an expectation of beginners to not have utilized all of those free resources?"
what?
I think what he means is learning resources
I am glad I am not alone with this thought.
Trust me, you aren't. A lot of successful people or people who have developed a mindset of taking ownership and are actually accomplishing things don't have time to argue with the internet which is full of people with a victimhood mindset.
You came to me at the right time. I'm self taught and i'm 5months into this learning journey. Began with the Basics of Html and css and made sure I was proficient in them. Proceeded to learning vanilla JavaScript and a bit of php and managed to build simple 6page website for my Dad. There was so much that still felt like magic to me. So I went as far down as learning about arm assembly and how they're compiled to really understand what's going on and I'm gaining a better understanding on how software and hardware interact and actually how to architect it. Was kinda doubting If I should really dive that deep but u've really given me confidence to continue as now I know my future self will thank me for this investment. My job is kinda flexible so I can really dive in. Big ups bro👊🏽
Sounds like you have a fun journey ahead of you! Keep diving deeper man.
@@DonTheDeveloper Yeah it's starting to get fun. Going that deep really got me to understand why the gatekeeping is necessary. It's crazy how loose the the standard of entry was. People just be adding junk on top junk and using duck tape to hold it all together. Couldn't understand it before but now I can't usee it. I guess I've joined the dark side.
That's what got me as far as I made it into the dev world. Hard work and studying even after you get a position.
I honestly feel bad for people without a degree worth of full stack that think any bootcamp is enough.
Do not take a coding bootcamp if you have basic understanding fundamentals of software developer because coding bootcamp is teaching faster they had no concern if the student understand what the intructor teach and the reality learning coding bootcamp is not enough you need to create alots of project I had no college degree but I enrolled to coding bootcamp not to learned the tech-stack they offered but only for certificate just to show to the client that I have a suitable as a software developer because I have an understanding of how the techstack they teach I achieved the first honorable reward that makes my resume and portfolio outstanding but taking a CS degree is important if I have enough savings I will take a degree just to teach in a university teaching is a key to learn more.
You should make a fundamentals playlist.
Not a tutorial type video like everyone else, but a fundamentals video for: HTML, CSS, .js, react
My experience of gatekeepers has been in asking a question or questions to a knowledgable person and being given some bullshit answer or runaround.
They, for whatever reason, don't want me to gain advantage over them, don't like me, or something weird but that's far and few in-between. I've met a lot of cool people who share their honest thoughts and opinions. This video makes it sound like people who tell the truth is a gatekeeper. However I disagree. I don't see honesty and truth as gatekeeping. Only the act of being dodgy and blowing someone off especially when you know that you can point them in the right direction.
Good thing there's so much resources these days that you don't need to rely on dodgy naysayers, i.e. don't treat me like a variable and assign me an immutable value. 😂
the points you are making are quite valid tbh. The current market is no longer on the "low supply" end. I mean if I was a company owner myself and I had let's say 100,000 applications of really good developers and I had to choose only 5 of them, I will surely become very picky. It's just like dating. Companies are the woman in this case, and the applicants are the men. It's brutal for us. I would say that it's the market that's to be blamed. Because there's a "supply overflow" of developers right now and the only thing that one can do is to improve themselves.
AHH this is what I've been saying. It's so frustrating seeing the hyper-optimism and false hope they give people which only makes things worse in reality.
Thank you for sharing. I really appreciate people who give the hard truth.
Happy to!
Great video Don as a recent bootcamp grad working at startup, you have to know fundamentals and practice every day if not, won't make it in the industry.mastering DSA so I can get into fang company next year
great message. Dunno why ppl get mad. Videos don`t bite :D If you offer value - you get what you deserve. It is up to you.
The only thing I would disagree, is using "CS grad" as a metric for "having good foundation".
A CS grad who haven`t put craptons of time into grinding and practice, will be the same, as bootcamp-er, who haven`t put craptons of time into grinding and practice.
Mb in some top-tier Unis there is a process to force students to get a strong grasp and be ready to work, but in most cases students are 100% dependent on their own willpower and discipline, and there are lots of graduates who are absolutely helpless in terms of building real projects.
Hi Guys ... this is Skeletor ... And I support Don's message. Just Quit. ....... Maybe the grass is greener over there .... because You're not over there Effin It UP! 🤣 ... Until We Meet Again!
Great insight. Thanks, Don.
The same applies to all other professions and i don't want to hear complains
This is a great snap to reality.
What about developers who Girlboss, Gatekeep, and Gaslight?
There are also people like the Techlead who tell you that tech is a failing industry for a good career, but this might be true for many industries. Tech and AI could be the at the tip of the sinking Titanic where people are trying to rush to for a decent job
Techlead is really good at engagement farming. I'd take what he says with a grain of salt.
Gatekeeping only happens online. Show up to the interview those individuals are too soft to gatekeep talent.
there is a new reddit thread going in on you brother
lol
Thanks for your honesty. I am watching only two UA-camrs you and Cristian Dev I think a lot of UA-camrs lying to aspiring developers. If I try to get you point you are saying to aspiring build projects without relying on frameworks in order to have solid fundamentals. Do you think those projects built without frameworks can we put it on portfolio. I am building a web application with vanilla JS customers can check cars price or financing cars .
>>> "all of you know of a UA-camr who has created videos that is overly optimistic and telling you if you just want it enough if you just you know at least build kind of a basic website and you can use react in your application or you could just build a really simple API there's always a company out there that wants to give you a chance"
Uhhh ... I *wish* this were bullshit. I *wish* this industry was gatekept by developers who demand some level of skill or expertise at all.
But the truth is there really is no bar at all to enter this industry. Maybe the job market is bad right now, but that's another matter and that affects everyone skilled or unskilled. As long as you can write a basic website you're good; after that it's just dumb luck who you can land an interview with and then dumb luck whether they choose to go with you or the next guy. If you can code a basic website, they don't know any better how to judge between hiring you and the next guy who can also build a basic website.
Meh
"Stop being so pathetic!" ...... yessss yesss FEEL the Republican Flow through you!
i lost it at netflix
Can you recommend someUA-camrs and/or teachers who are really good at holding viewers accountable?
On a 1 on 1 basis? No. You'll have to search for a lot of small communities for something like that. But, if you're just looking for someone that holds people to a higher standard with their advice, you might want to check out ThePrimeagan.
@@DonTheDeveloper Thanks Don. Love your content brother. I'm a construction worker looking to transition into tech. I just started learning to code about a month ago. Your content is helping to keep me grounded in truth and not lies, butterflies and rainbows. Thanks bro
Thank You
right so when I go to search linking I need to read 8000 pages of GCC documentation. Maybe I should write Python Webapps the size of a DVD game. Wow yeah we live in a time when there is 300 ways to do something and nobody actually provides a full tutorial. Yeah right buddy.
Love this guy. Your honesty is GOLD. Thanks brother 💪
Appreciate it!
lol
I need the keys!!!
There's no lock.
Basically cs+bootcamp= swe degree lul
By the time I get my first developer job I’ll be a senior dev lol. But that’s also because I’m just learning and not trying to find a job. I never feel I’m good enough to start applying.
You will never feel good enough until you start applying and gaining some traction.
I like this guy. He is keeping it real.
Be careful with the market. There is plenty of money to be made to tell you what you want to hear. Confirmation Bias goes both ways and both make money.
“L” take.
Preach!!!
based af