Def would be very interested in a test hands/combo video as well as possible locals match ups and/or report of the decks you are going against. One big thing I have personally noticed regarding cross-sheep is that alot of people are not playing it safe and making nib proof plays when they play that card (at least thats how it seems imo) I find that in general when I go first I always play hella conservative and I will miss out on a better end board but I find even if my end board lacks on some disruptions I am usually able to time my interrupts well enough and take the game because I played hella conservative. Quick side note I am so glad you have finally adopted debtors!! I have been loving the additional interrupt I get when I set that and fusion spell its been really catching peeps off guard. Looking forward to hearing about YCS Orlando in due time another great vid as always!
I would love to do test hands for sure. Cross-sheeps are always protected with Silvia. Debtors with all of the sinfuls card are goated. I will try to keep you guys updated with the YCS run!
main thought rn is wondering when you would search queen azamina, im sure the game state when she would come in handy comes up but just in a regular combo i can't imagine it. im also testing out sussers as another sinful spoil name and know it comes up alot when getting hand trapped in awkward parts of the line. i've toyed with the idea of debters too and even the trap card that fuses both seem like hidden broken techs if you can just open them or find a solid line to find them and end on simlar boards.
She is a weird brick where if you hard open her she can do some crazy things with the quick play and other things. I just did a ton of testing with my friend group and it was cooking. There was one game I summon her like 3 times and the pressure if her was crazy. I need to test more but it feels good right now. Also I am happy to play more of the spells than the traps cause it really does help going 2nd.
Very interesting change, can't wait to see how it performs. I used your previous version at locals and it was bussin, but I will admit it was lacking white forest in a lot of hands and the bridge with Chorozo was kind of hard to pull off.
Honestly, best vid yet on white forest azamina that you have made. Love it as fellow white forest azamina player. I don't have the fiendsmith package or any of the mulcharmies lol so my build is more pure and similar to yours
Yeah fiendsmith cards are crazy pricy right now. I do have pure versions and Snake-eyes versions of the deck that does not play fiendsmith and still as good and more fun imo.
@AntiYami yeah, i never jumped on the bandwagon for fiendsmith. Had a chance to get them but I was like nah lol but yeah, I'd love to see your pure version.
I like to use toy box because black witch can send toy soldier while toy box in the field. Then use toy soldier on summon to add Lacrima while black witch to set deception. Really powerful without using on your normal summon
I am curious as to why Aphes was removed. I am playing the deck right now, and you are really good at explaining and showing things. Also, if you time, showing the new lines with Queen and Cross Sheep could be interesting
You really don't need it most of the time. Most people scoop to the end board so I wanted to play cards that helps get me too point A to Point B thur the hand traps better.
I think Abao is only worth with Agnumday, as can summon Agnumday with Sequence and Desirae, and before using Agnum effect, link it off for Abao, which revives Agnum - then that effect brings back Desirae and equips, then the Abao returns.. IMO cut the cross sheep to enable that
Overall a cool list, but I have a few questions, mainly about the extra deck; no Zapper Shrimp for the quick synch into Chaos Angel? and what do you (or others) think about Magistus Chorozo? I have not had the time to really test with him, but I have seen it a couple times in the ocg, and in concept the card reads quite nice... Anyway best of luck at the YCS with your bling bling deck ^^
Chorozo is not needed in a deck like this cause you see WF more often. Zapper Shrimp can be played but not in fiendsmith. You don't have room for it. Thanks for the GL at the YCS.
I’m so afraid of 1 diabellstar since bystials are running around and I know you can chain a second wanted to bring it from grave I’m just worried wanted becomes dead
If they bystail banish your witch when you have 90 other threats in the grave. After you win the match you can show then where the side event tables are. Sometime it does happens but if made a nice end board then she does not matter as much.
aint gon lie 1 astellar kinda crazy dou ngl but i can see ur point. personally im a 3 of fan of it cus its still a 1.5 card starter but i aint gon hate cus ig it comes down to tastes. I would reccomend playing sum breakers in the main like droplet n slayer over droll. theres a guy he cooked off a bit called razak ygo hes got a decent build w it but i think going foward st. azamina is a card which rn is undermined but will come up eventually and i think in a build like this where it focuses more on the SS package it could cook playing also moa regina. Thoughts on the take? good list irregardless.
The great thing is it comes down to the Player. Everyone thinks and see lines differently. Tech options will match the play style of them. We had this problem in Tear format. The deck has such a high ceiling that it is hard to pick a "correct" build and have hundreds of people just straight agree with it. That is the beauty of this deck imo. I don't mind the take at all. It is good to see it from other perspective.
@AntiYami It's definitely an option, but I wouldn't waste the normal with kashtira, also adding other non-white forest pieces since one of the deck's needs is to see starters without praying to rn-jesus
I think alot of people are sleeping on the quick play spell. It is crazy and it feels like should not be as good as it is but it cooks going 1st and 2nd. If you want to run the traps it is not a bad option either.
Hi Yami! Me again 😂 thanks for another profile. I managed to get an elzette for Saturday's regional, so I'm going to be on WF post suda after all. Is it worth it to get the queen azamina? Could you explain the line, when do you search it? And the cross sheep line too, thanks again you rock
Yes she will be played in the next format so I think picking her up now is worth. I have a Video that is out for member now with test hands. If you are not a memeber it will be out tomorrow.
Thoughts on either maining or siding aphes? Every time ive used it Aphes just feels so powerful, my friends are always deathly afraid of it when they know its set lol.
@@AntiYami totally fair, white forest makes big end boards very easily. One card I do think you should try though is scourge, I personally love scourge, and it offers a LOT of versatility with stuff like beating nib imperm, dodging certain targeting effects, or undoing imperm on Diabellze off rip during your opponents turn, not to mention you'll literally never lose to almost any board breaker.
That card is waaaaaay out of my league. You need to summon that vs me and cook me with it haha. I thought about it but I like how the extra feels atm. If I had more space in the extra then I would play it for sure.
Because he wants to hard open with any of the sinful spoils, and in the case that he puts 2 or 3 of hallowed that chance would increase but also increase the possibility of opening 2 hallowed together which would be the worst opening hand
have u tried the deck without fiendsmith? I know its easy to just want to play the fiendsmith engine in everything but this deck gets alot better imo without it. Mainly because you have to cut yourself off the stronger combo lines to fit the fiendsmith extra deck cards in. Chorozo is really broken when you go the pure az-wf route, gives you the extender for some lines and can even help make dweller which is crazy good into this format. It also frees up space for more non-engine, like my list can play 14 HTs and then 2 talents, called by, and 3x crossout (this gives you more protection to push your combos through) droll is also amazing into this meta especially against Mitsurugi/ryzeal thats the only difference in HTs i just cut down veiler to 2 and play 3 droll for 14. Not trying to knock ur list, I just have been trying all kinds of builds with az wf and the pure has been really impressive.
Yes I have a ton of builds of Pure WF on the channel. My favorite version of the deck is Snake-Eyes. I livestream it on youtube if you want to check it out. Also Join the discord we can look at the list together and scoop it.
@@AntiYami im thinking more of a “going to locals”, or db replay analisis on ganes vs popular matchups. Something that showcases the reasoning behind adding/cutting cards; and other gameplay analysis.
She is broken from that point of view for sure. I would main lancea cause I would be playing vs Ryzeal waaaaaay more than Maliss. If Maliss was the best deck then maybe.
Seeee, I've been saying 2 of the azamina elzette is the way and everyone just said no. Now see where you are at. Smh. Queen is really questionable, that card is dead if you don't have access to hallowed or debtors, don't see how the increased ceiling is worth it. Our ceiling without is high enough and we have enough recursion as well
I feel like you don't understand on how to use her. I will make a test hand with the deck and show off more things about it. She is part of some combos. Again I knew alot of people will be confuse about her but I think people don't use her correctly.
@AntiYami I know she can be used for combos but don't you just want to see your base white forest azamina combo as much as possible? I feel like this card just adds more variance in hands, you might have hands that end way better but you add just as much hands that do less. The end board doesn't really need the improvement no? Idk if lowering consistency for that is worth it
If you want to hard open Hallowed you have to play 3. I’m on 3 and think it works so well. Also what’s funny is you say want to open those cards, but you cut down on that engine. Don’t make sense.
Yeah, Hallowed is a brick most of the time. So I don't want to play more of a card that is bad in bad hand. Opening two of those cards along side fiendsmith card with no sinful spoils cards. Your in trouble.
Throw it on the garbage
My 1st pin of shame. Feels good ngl.
Great video! see you at YCS Orlando
Wow didn't think I would see you comment on my little WF Profile. Yes would see you at the YCS :)!
Switch off fiendsmith chimera and join the white forest duelists!
@ That is what I am saying.
Def would be very interested in a test hands/combo video as well as possible locals match ups and/or report of the decks you are going against.
One big thing I have personally noticed regarding cross-sheep is that alot of people are not playing it safe and making nib proof plays when they play that card (at least thats how it seems imo)
I find that in general when I go first I always play hella conservative and I will miss out on a better end board but I find even if my end board lacks on some disruptions I am usually able to time my interrupts well enough and take the game because I played hella conservative.
Quick side note I am so glad you have finally adopted debtors!! I have been loving the additional interrupt I get when I set that and fusion spell its been really catching peeps off guard.
Looking forward to hearing about YCS Orlando in due time another great vid as always!
I would love to do test hands for sure.
Cross-sheeps are always protected with Silvia.
Debtors with all of the sinfuls card are goated.
I will try to keep you guys updated with the YCS run!
main thought rn is wondering when you would search queen azamina, im sure the game state when she would come in handy comes up but just in a regular combo i can't imagine it. im also testing out sussers as another sinful spoil name and know it comes up alot when getting hand trapped in awkward parts of the line. i've toyed with the idea of debters too and even the trap card that fuses both seem like hidden broken techs if you can just open them or find a solid line to find them and end on simlar boards.
She is a weird brick where if you hard open her she can do some crazy things with the quick play and other things. I just did a ton of testing with my friend group and it was cooking. There was one game I summon her like 3 times and the pressure if her was crazy. I need to test more but it feels good right now.
Also I am happy to play more of the spells than the traps cause it really does help going 2nd.
Very interesting change, can't wait to see how it performs. I used your previous version at locals and it was bussin, but I will admit it was lacking white forest in a lot of hands and the bridge with Chorozo was kind of hard to pull off.
Yeah the fact that I was not seeing them enough was crazy so I came up with this list to fix that issue!
Honestly, best vid yet on white forest azamina that you have made. Love it as fellow white forest azamina player. I don't have the fiendsmith package or any of the mulcharmies lol so my build is more pure and similar to yours
Yeah fiendsmith cards are crazy pricy right now. I do have pure versions and Snake-eyes versions of the deck that does not play fiendsmith and still as good and more fun imo.
@AntiYami yeah, i never jumped on the bandwagon for fiendsmith. Had a chance to get them but I was like nah lol but yeah, I'd love to see your pure version.
Absolte goated content, really helps with working on my WF deck.
Glad to help!
Good luck man
Thanks for the Luck homie!
I like to use toy box because black witch can send toy soldier while toy box in the field. Then use toy soldier on summon to add Lacrima while black witch to set deception. Really powerful without using on your normal summon
I don't like the toy engine atm cause it is not good going 2nd. Broken going 1st tho. Toy goes crazy when breakers are real!
Yeah fair enough. I just like the combo lines where you haven’t used your normal summon
I am curious as to why Aphes was removed. I am playing the deck right now, and you are really good at explaining and showing things. Also, if you time, showing the new lines with Queen and Cross Sheep could be interesting
You really don't need it most of the time. Most people scoop to the end board so I wanted to play cards that helps get me too point A to Point B thur the hand traps better.
Ngl brother, I've been testing 2 tales as well. Trying to fit a bao in the extra so I've cut agnumday for now.
Yeah I think I stick to the Angunmday for now. I love him going 2nd to much :)
I think Abao is only worth with Agnumday, as can summon Agnumday with Sequence and Desirae, and before using Agnum effect, link it off for Abao, which revives Agnum - then that effect brings back Desirae and equips, then the Abao returns.. IMO cut the cross sheep to enable that
@ I get it! Honestly, the A Bao is just too much commitment right now! Gonna cut it after testing last night.
@ True! But at that point it's so much, it's not really worth it. I'd rather just play agnu
@ Agun is better trust trust
I appreciate your lists
Thank you! I appreciate the kind words. The work is never done here.
How do you play around Nibiru since you dont play the Caesar line? (beside the azamina omni negate ofc)
I just made a test hand vid. It will be dropping tomorrow. Members can peep the vid now.
Overall a cool list, but I have a few questions, mainly about the extra deck;
no Zapper Shrimp for the quick synch into Chaos Angel?
and what do you (or others) think about Magistus Chorozo? I have not had the time to really test with him, but I have seen it a couple times in the ocg, and in concept the card reads quite nice...
Anyway best of luck at the YCS with your bling bling deck ^^
Chorozo is really good in the ed
Chorozo is not needed in a deck like this cause you see WF more often.
Zapper Shrimp can be played but not in fiendsmith. You don't have room for it.
Thanks for the GL at the YCS.
I’m so afraid of 1 diabellstar since bystials are running around and I know you can chain a second wanted to bring it from grave I’m just worried wanted becomes dead
If they bystail banish your witch when you have 90 other threats in the grave. After you win the match you can show then where the side event tables are. Sometime it does happens but if made a nice end board then she does not matter as much.
aint gon lie 1 astellar kinda crazy dou ngl but i can see ur point. personally im a 3 of fan of it cus its still a 1.5 card starter but i aint gon hate cus ig it comes down to tastes. I would reccomend playing sum breakers in the main like droplet n slayer over droll. theres a guy he cooked off a bit called razak ygo hes got a decent build w it but i think going foward st. azamina is a card which rn is undermined but will come up eventually and i think in a build like this where it focuses more on the SS package it could cook playing also moa regina.
Thoughts on the take? good list irregardless.
The great thing is it comes down to the Player. Everyone thinks and see lines differently. Tech options will match the play style of them. We had this problem in Tear format. The deck has such a high ceiling that it is hard to pick a "correct" build and have hundreds of people just straight agree with it. That is the beauty of this deck imo.
I don't mind the take at all. It is good to see it from other perspective.
@@AntiYami actual humble king.
Keep cooking up different techs brother! 🔥
i have one question I thought in TCG the sinful spoil snake eye was forbidden?
i think hes proxying it for now until he gets a second tales, as i also thought that
It is ban I am using it as a 2nd Tales cause I only own one.
@@AntiYami ty for clearing my confusion.
@@ollieoughton7380 thank you for clarification.
Diabellstar's expensiveness could be addressed by playing Kashtira Fenrir perhaps
I would Say Unicorn and Fenrir. Alot of decks are not ready for the Extra deck rips.
@AntiYami It's definitely an option, but I wouldn't waste the normal with kashtira, also adding other non-white forest pieces since one of the deck's needs is to see starters without praying to rn-jesus
Really cool the techs
I personally preffer another sinful spoils Card instead of the second quick play... Like morrian or unleashing.
I think alot of people are sleeping on the quick play spell. It is crazy and it feels like should not be as good as it is but it cooks going 1st and 2nd. If you want to run the traps it is not a bad option either.
Hi Yami! Me again 😂 thanks for another profile. I managed to get an elzette for Saturday's regional, so I'm going to be on WF post suda after all. Is it worth it to get the queen azamina? Could you explain the line, when do you search it? And the cross sheep line too, thanks again you rock
Yes she will be played in the next format so I think picking her up now is worth. I have a Video that is out for member now with test hands. If you are not a memeber it will be out tomorrow.
Thoughts on either maining or siding aphes? Every time ive used it Aphes just feels so powerful, my friends are always deathly afraid of it when they know its set lol.
I have played it in the bass and you don't need it at all. Your end board is good enough with out it. Still a great card tho.
@@AntiYami totally fair, white forest makes big end boards very easily. One card I do think you should try though is scourge, I personally love scourge, and it offers a LOT of versatility with stuff like beating nib imperm, dodging certain targeting effects, or undoing imperm on Diabellze off rip during your opponents turn, not to mention you'll literally never lose to almost any board breaker.
Also; cosidering its more fusion heavy version, is running st. Azamina an option worth considering?
I don't have space for cards like her. Extra is a bit to tight for that.
Where’s the bomber dragon 🔥🔥🔥
That card is waaaaaay out of my league. You need to summon that vs me and cook me with it haha. I thought about it but I like how the extra feels atm. If I had more space in the extra then I would play it for sure.
Do we not have the same banlist? I believe OSS is ban...
No we do. I am Using that as Tales cause I own only one.
Pls do not forget mulcharmy are "twice" per turn 😅
yeah ofc I know they are twice per turn haha.
Test hand video with this deck!
Coming soon!
5:35 if you say you need to hard open this card, why not have it at more than one?
You don't want to play more bricks in the deck. She is fine at one and also Azamina Elzette can be the same thing in this spot.
Because he wants to hard open with any of the sinful spoils, and in the case that he puts 2 or 3 of hallowed that chance would increase but also increase the possibility of opening 2 hallowed together which would be the worst opening hand
have u tried the deck without fiendsmith? I know its easy to just want to play the fiendsmith engine in everything but this deck gets alot better imo without it. Mainly because you have to cut yourself off the stronger combo lines to fit the fiendsmith extra deck cards in. Chorozo is really broken when you go the pure az-wf route, gives you the extender for some lines and can even help make dweller which is crazy good into this format. It also frees up space for more non-engine, like my list can play 14 HTs and then 2 talents, called by, and 3x crossout (this gives you more protection to push your combos through) droll is also amazing into this meta especially against Mitsurugi/ryzeal thats the only difference in HTs i just cut down veiler to 2 and play 3 droll for 14. Not trying to knock ur list, I just have been trying all kinds of builds with az wf and the pure has been really impressive.
Yes I have a ton of builds of Pure WF on the channel. My favorite version of the deck is Snake-Eyes. I livestream it on youtube if you want to check it out.
Also Join the discord we can look at the list together and scoop it.
Could we have some game play showcasing the new additions?
For sure, Would you like test hands, basic combos, or a match?
@@AntiYami im thinking more of a “going to locals”, or db replay analisis on ganes vs popular matchups. Something that showcases the reasoning behind adding/cutting cards; and other gameplay analysis.
@@enriqueramzjmz7676 I can see if I can do that. Maybe I can do a money match and see how that goes.
@ goted content right there. Perhaps also play any subscribers or go thru replays 🥸
First :D
Anyways, I built a WF azamina snake eye, would you review it plz? Still not sure for extra deck since I dunno how to play it yet :b
100% drop it in the discord and we can talk as much as you like.
Is there any play under droll ?
Ofc. Any two bodys for fiendsmith lines and setting up the quickplay etc. Just depends on your hands and you hand traps to help as well.
This has to be the best Verion if the deck I've seen 🤣🤣🤣
It 100% feels like the best WF deck I built. It plays thur sooooo much.
I run triple tales , i love seeing it, because then i don't have to search it
Yeah you can. I am a big fan of two atm.
@@AntiYamiwe gonna represent at Orlando this weekend see you there
queen being a sinful spoils card and a monster is broken. Also main lancea and you use it as a spell or monster too
She is broken from that point of view for sure. I would main lancea cause I would be playing vs Ryzeal waaaaaay more than Maliss. If Maliss was the best deck then maybe.
25ths > optimal ratios
Seeee, I've been saying 2 of the azamina elzette is the way and everyone just said no. Now see where you are at. Smh.
Queen is really questionable, that card is dead if you don't have access to hallowed or debtors, don't see how the increased ceiling is worth it. Our ceiling without is high enough and we have enough recursion as well
I feel like you don't understand on how to use her. I will make a test hand with the deck and show off more things about it. She is part of some combos. Again I knew alot of people will be confuse about her but I think people don't use her correctly.
@AntiYami I know she can be used for combos but don't you just want to see your base white forest azamina combo as much as possible? I feel like this card just adds more variance in hands, you might have hands that end way better but you add just as much hands that do less. The end board doesn't really need the improvement no? Idk if lowering consistency for that is worth it
If you want to hard open Hallowed you have to play 3. I’m on 3 and think it works so well.
Also what’s funny is you say want to open those cards, but you cut down on that engine. Don’t make sense.
Yeah, Hallowed is a brick most of the time. So I don't want to play more of a card that is bad in bad hand. Opening two of those cards along side fiendsmith card with no sinful spoils cards. Your in trouble.
King of the white forest is cooking up something spiiiicy! Good luck at the YCS!
Thank you for the GL homie!
You can side dagda for an easy win against maliss
As long as they don't shifter it is a easy win going 1st. Going 2nd is the main issue.
I will no be rude its a table 500+ list...
@@alexb.1372 Awesome. Guess we both will be there.
First!