Week one of working on the steel trawler
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- In this video I start cutting the rubbing strip off the chine as well as removing the rudder and attempting to remove the rudder post.
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You do not talk to much. You explain how to do things. Your videos are very informative and you have helped me a lot with my boat just from watching your videos. Don’t change a thing about how you make your videos. Looking forward to the next one. Cheers.
Heat and dry ice is a pretty effective method, I have friends that do work for the Navy trying to break apart huge mounts, and that's always their go to. Also, don't worry about the grinding being boring, there's more than a few of your followers (myself included) that enjoy watching the slow motion process of the restoration...winter boredom knows no bounds:-)
Yes i agree, heat is your best friend and it will prevent so much unneeded butchery . even the worst rusty bolts are no mach for your torch and strong bar aned wrench. I love watching the work on this awesome steel trawler. I wish i had one myself to work on now!
winter bordom, omg..... i,d rather be dead. grey day by madness.
I’ve seen props and rudders removed using dry ice and heat on several naval vessels as well...
I’m amazed at how much corrosion there is on the hull, below the water line. How many years did it take for this hull to become so corroded?
Really enjoying your journey in getting her ship shape.
Best wishes from a land lubber in Buffalo, NY USA.
Roy Lewis
“You talk to much” - “It’s much quicker than trying to mime it all”! 😂😂 my first belly laugh all week.
I will never understand people who tune onto a boat repair vlog to learn, and then complain about learning. If you draw pictures someone would say to use crayons so they could see their favorite colors. Oh well. Most of is like the talking. It wouldn't make much since to just show broken part picture then a photo of a spanner(wrench) then a fixed part afterwards. Best of luck with your new efforts. Peace guys
My sentiments, exactly.
It’s what sets him apart from the rest and why he is the best!
@@AndrewLawlin word
Exactly what I said 👍
keep doing what you are doing . It is better to explain then show. The critics do not always know better, it is your project and you are doing okay, everybody makes mistakes that's how we learn.
That air chisel on the big bolt/cap was epic. Well done.
Epic no. You just don't own tools.
No way! You dont talk to much! Your telling us your story. What it takes to get these things done in real time in the real world. Thanks! Great stuff!!! I use kroil oil.
You do an awesome job. I like how you don't cut the problems you have out. I like hearing your thought process of how you're trying to figure the problems out. One thing about your videos you show The Good The Bad and The Ugly it's everything we all run into while working on projects. Keep up the great work stew
yeah mate your doing really well , the ideas you have on your own are better than what i can think of when im watching , i love your show its awesome and very informational, i think your talking is great , you sound like an aussie , so if anything we aussie can talk fast , and some people can get lost , but you have good speed and even if something isn't as interesting the way you talk keeps me focused and i have adhd , so your doing great and i cant wait for more eps
Change nothing , just be yourself , this is turning into a great fight as in man versus boat , good luck and keep those episodes coming .
When you said that people make comments about you "talking too much",,, I wouldn't them bother you AT ALL!!! What your doing Stu is actually talking us through the project and giving us thoughts and experience about the dilemmas you're having with the project at hand! All I will tell you sir is that you're doing a 1000% awesome job (filming and workmanship) and always look forward to your videos. You are a great hands on teacher. And god knows not many of you on this planet. god bless
Your ability to clearly explain (Talk) is what makes this channel so great!
I really appreciate ALL your talk. You do a great job of explaining the frustrating situation you face. As for this "blankety-blank" rudder shaft, I am getting the feeling you will have to torch cut it out of the boat when all is said and done. Sorry for that pessimism, but I have seen situations like this, and there was no salvaging the original parts. They just had to be cut out and replaced. I hope my feelings are wrong in your case. But, I bet you have already braced yourself for that possibility. My heart is with you. I see so much hard work ahead. You will need to just brace yourself for the long haul. Thanks for sharing. We collectively give you a big hug and give you our moral and emotional support!
How much expense and effort would be involved in cutting it out and replacing it?
@@robinbennett5994, I think that would depend on several things. Is a replacement available that will fit easily into the existing space? How much would the replacement cost? And, probably even more questions about such a replacement. One could always try and custom build a replacement from parts. Who knows what a person may have to do to fix the defective parts.
Ingenuity and persistence should be applauded. I’m not a boat person or mechanic but I enjoy watching/hearing your thought processes. Very interesting.
A fair bit of oceanic wire worm in the steel but does not look as bad as I thought it could, a bit of plate word and some welding should see it right but the best thing is to see your spirits have lifted and its starting to come together. Keep the vids coming as lots of us out here are as keen as you are to see her back in the water 👍
Finally somebody that cleans before taking apart! I get so frustrated watching people working or disassembling dirty stuff. Thank you!
As said below: "you talk to much" "It's much quicker than trying to mime at all!" Great sense of humor and looking at a huge project as this one. You are very detailed in exactly what you need to do.
" much quicker than trying to mime it all " absolute classic - love the vlogs
"Saludos" from Mexico Stu, I got addicted to your action-packed videos! Great learning experience! I have been thinking of finding a metal boat and after your videos I think it is the right way to go. I have enjoyed mechanics and metalworking for decades as a hobby so it is really in my DNA. Your example of a "fierce steel warrior" just convinces me to follow your example! Keep on showing a great example. I hope to meet you over a "cold one" one of these, amigo. . . Harley
That Harley, I hope you find a great boat to make your project.
Keep going with a sledge hammer and a proper solid steel bar. Have the bar the same diameter but have a tube locating it directly in line with the post. Heaps of penetrating oil also. Great series!! Really loving it
Stu! I shoot video for a living and appreciate your patience in working tough projects while taking time to set up, explain and then edit for us to follow along. Huge time investment and greatly appreciated. +1 on the appreciating explaining over miming. You’re definately not talking too much. I started supporting your channel (not much, but a strong symbolic gesture) and am getting others hooked. Keep up the great work!
Don't stop talking, it is this detail that gives us the impetus to keep going on our projects.
Was reading the comments below, and I must say, Stu, you will surely get this accomplished with a little help from your friends! What an awesome group you have on here.
You don’t talk to much stu keep
Up the good work love watching your videos
I don't leave nowhere near the ocean but i still appreciate the hard work you're doing on that rust bucket, can't wait to see the end product.
I have been working on a similar steelboat project for 3 years now, and I have learned much of the same lessons you are talking about in the videos. For the rudder post situation you are experiencing, I think I would have cut the whole thing out with a grinder. If it creates a square hole instead of a round hole (as if you use the torch its not that important. What I will do on similar issues on my boat is to cut out the old and rusty thing, fabricate a new one, and especially in areas where you get a load/force ( like the rudder post) You could prepare everything , lubricate and test it in your workshop, and then make the plate a bit thicker than the hull. Position everything with the rudder, tack-weld it, remove the rudder ( bolted parts) and then weld both inside and outside of the hull. This will reinforce the area too. Good Luck on your work and your project. Very Interesting to follow your project.
I wish I would've watched one of your videos years ago. I see them in my recommendations from time to time but never had the chance to watch them. Now I'm kicking myself for that. In less than a minute of the first video I subscribed. The good part is I can binge for a few weeks on this series.
Thanks mate, hope you enjoy!
Man, this boat is going to be a lot of blood, sweat and tears but hopefully worth it! Loving this series so far.
Love the explaining along the way. No such thing as too much talk as long as its explanations! Keep up the good work mate!
I don’t think you talk to much... I think what your doing is educating us all.. and doing a great job at it 👍👍👍
Fark those who say you talk to much! I really appreciate the honesty and the clear explanation of everything your up to, massive challenge ahead, keep up the good work, I love this channel..
There may be a taper lock sleeve, similar to engine valve keepers, that prevents the shaft from slipping down and also doubles as a bronze bushing. . . after all you can turn the shaft. Cut the bottom flange off and push the shaft upwards. Love that you fixing the old girl!!
Right-O!!! Cant wait to watch! This is a great series!
Something that works really well that I have found from experience is heat quenching. Where you heat followed by quickly quenching with water. I removed some hydraulic ram pins from a barge this way that refused any other ways. Good luck stu
Started watching some old videos of yours.. you don’t talk too much. Its important info and im learning a lot.
Still just fascinated by the entire project. I find myself starting to think about doing a trawler myself someday, but let’s wait and see what all you encounter first. Thank you for putting these videos out and good luck this week
That is hard work.
You are in a good area. I see mangrove trees in the background. That is a good sign somebody cares about the marine ecology
I like these videos. I'm not a mechanic of any type so I actually appreciate the talking. It helps me understand your intent
Keep it up! I'm lazy and am vicariously active through watching you rehab your yacht!
This is a fun project to watch and is why i subscribed to this channel about 3 weeks ago. Hello from Davenport Iowa USA.
I find myself eagerly waiting for the next installment. Great topic and carry on talking. Your doing fine.
You're doing fine the way your explaining everything. I'm a plumbing contractor of 32 years so I've been doing real work instead of critiquing you from their parents basement and the only mechanical ability they have is opening a bag of chips. You tell us the how the the real projects go with the problem you encounter on the fly. Can't tell how many time on a job that brute force and stupidity was the main tools I used. Haha. Here's a tip though on that 2 inch plug removal. When you have your wrench and cheater bar on it pull hard to try to remove it and at the same time take a ball peen hammer and hit the top of the plug hard and rapidly until it breaks loose. I've used this trick on 100 year old fitting with success. Sometimes you need 2 people to do this but most of the time just yourself will do it. Keep them coming.
I like the way you are attacking all the problems. This boats going to look and work great when you are finished!
as a boilermaker i am enjoying watching you bust nuts in the sun good work mate
"Much quicker than trying to mime it all..." classic! Great video Stu, keep it up!
The more you talk, the more I learn. Thank you!
I learn SO much from your vids @dangarmarine...good work Stu - I’m living vicariously through this experience with you!
mate . if you didn't talk We wouldnt learn anything. So please keep talking. keep up the great work. cheers Andy in Perth.
Hello Dangar, I was excited when you got the cap off the rudder post. Good Job! Your making progress. You could get a rose but attachment for the Oxyfuel torch. Multi-flame attachment is the same thing. I use the rosebud a lot for heating.
That motorcycle fork for a breaker bar is an inspired idea. Ingenious way of repurposing an old Fork. I'm going to give that a shot myself.
I have been watching your videos for years now and know that you always come up with a solution. Here in the states, when I have tried to free up rusted iron bolts on cars or trucks, I always try using a product called PB Blaster, first. You can usually get it at an Auto Parts store. However I think you are on the right track with using an oil, or Acetone/ATF solution. Another option is to use some common household products such as a solution of Vinegar, Lemon Juice, and Baking Soda. This will basically create an acid to eat any rust away. I would also look for anything that could be holding this in place. Best wishes and good luck.
I've just spent three years doing up a 30 foot GRP trawler, total rebuild, good luck.
Me and my friend had a same problem this summer, but the rudder shaft was in teflon cylinder so I'm sure it was easier for us. This how we took it out: we set on the rudder like 3-4 meters long lever, and I was pushing lever left and right, and my friend was pushing the shaft down with press. Best regards from Croatia, Dubrovnik
don't worry about other's comments. i have been working on steel work boats 40 plus years and when you said "acetone and atm" i knew you know your stuff. Look this is a nice boat that you can have the rest of your life don't rush it. fix everything NOW from stem to stern all the mechanical and electric systems. steel boats no matter what condition can be made new but you know this so don't get discouraged with the steel decks and hull plates. buy a large box of cutting and grinding wheels and a few flapper's too you will use them. heat is your friend shop around for best prices but don't rush and slam it together. again you have a real nice boat so do it right once so you will never worry about anything on the water. i'm pulling for you from the N.J. Shore USA :) chill out............
Brought back memories. Did all your tricks, but ended up cutting the whole lot out.
Replaced everything.
At least now I know the shaft, seals and bearings are good to go.
My rudder ‘sloshed’ as I upended it to clean, Shit ! water inside ?
Drilled into it only to find they’d filled it with oil ! There is a God !!
I think you’re doing an outstanding job, explaining what you’re doing showing a great video. Bestest!
Really enjoy your deep-level of detail & insight on both the project and your process... GREAT stuff !! Thank you and keep up the good work !
I normally watch on my Roku so I don't get to leave comments but holy crap you've got 300 comments already. Don't worry about those people that say you talk too much, it really explains your line of thinking and helps. Keep up the good work!
Watchin ur vids of obviously smokin hot weather down under almost gives me a warmish feeling while freezing my ass off here in TX usa..
We should meet somewhere in the middle. 37 today, too hot to work on a metal boat!
I am hooked. Absolutely love these videos. Subscribed and you are an extremely smart and talented dude. Thanks for the entertainment.
Welcome aboard!
You don't talk to much, great work and as always great video :)
Really like the way you think outside the square, it'll be sorely needed on this project I'm sure but you'll get there, good luck mate
I feel for ya mate. My adventure was with a boat built in 1932 but she was wood. Often cursed that fact because I thought it would be way easier to just cut out and replace a steel panel rather than fiddle with long lengths of 3" thick oak. Spent 3 seasons doing work I thought would take 1. OOPS. Loved every minute though - Hope you're loving it too. Tremendous pride felt with a ob well done!
I appreciate the talking because for me it's all explanations. As always, good video!
Loving this. Keep thinking I might have to get my own trawler to do up.. then I remember I live 150km inland
very good stuff... great to see someone getting in there and making it happen.. your going to have a great boat when done..
You don't talk too much stu, still the best follow on UA-cam. So you've hit it with a big bloody hammer and nothing not an inch. Interested to see what might work next. Didn't want to drill it and place a bar through the hole. To try to turn it? Na that will never work lol
I like your commentary Stu. Very well explained. Keep it up man. I am hooked.
Stu, That rudderpost is a bit odd. The shaft protruding below the hull is much smaller than the shaft above. I strongly recomend pushing the shaft upward with a hydraulic jack. If the shaft travels upward look for a retainer of some kind on the upper part of the shaft. Most rudderposts in the US have a gland and packing to seal the tube. I don't see one on yours. Something has to keep the water from squirting up the tube alongside the rudderpost. Solve that mystery and you'll find the path for the rudderpost removal. Good luck ! Standing by for the solution.
Hey Mate, the bottom of the rudder post is very badly corroded due to the anodes being completely gone, I'm presuming that it was a uniform width the whole way down when new. I definitely think jacking it up first is going to be my next move to check for any type of locking circlip at the top.
If the bottom of the shaft is reduced in size before it exits the hull, it could merely just sit on a packing and be self adjusting with it's weight? The cap on top is for emergency steering and shaft removal? I'd be leary of jacking from below and lifting much weight off of stands supporting boat. Drill and tap top of shaft, then you have something to mount on top of shaft to jack from top of post? Just a thought!
At the very least going up might break the seal that's holding it in place...
I was of the same thought cut the flange of the post and push it up from outside the boat. Refurbish then weld the new flange on last after reinstallation of shaft.
I agree... it shouldn't be this hard. You're missing something. Something is holding the shaft in place still. Could be a small set screw of some type just below the layer of rust.
You're right about some of us wishing we had a boat to restore. I'm one of them. If you didn't talk (I've watched silent videos) I wouldn't know your thought processes. The bits of knowledge and experience that you use to make a "plan of attack". At least you have the right tools. I've watched guys work with nothing more than a Crescent wrench and a pair of slip-joint pliers. A large Crescent wrench, I learned, can double as a hammer!
Thanks mate. I figure a lot of people who want to do a restoration for themselves will want to know the thoughts. Are you saying a big wrench isn't a hammer? ;)
This is really good and can't wait for more. Nice to see you wearing some protective gear, BUT at the beginning you had dust mask etc on. And NO eye protection. Most precious things in the world is our eyes. Please protect them. We have all done it.
If I could come help you , I would.....but I'm in Burbank California , you're on the right track , keep going !
Love your videos! You explain everything great. I wish I could get over there and give you a hand, you definitely have a great dose of patience. I truly appreciate all the time you dedicate to sharing your work and adventures, because I just love all things boat! Best of luck with your build! I wish I was working right along side of you!
No...you do not talk too much! I do not have the gift you have to do my own boat (or time), but I love the idea of it. Watching you is awesome, just keep going....is there going to be a beer day we can come to when the boats a bit more completed?
Keep talking and explaining, great information and problem solving techniques, mahalo from Big Island Hawaii.
Thanks mate. :)
another great video Stu,a lot of work,I recon what you need? is a bloody big beer fridge. Cheers mate.
I think your doing a pretty good job despite the adversity. There is nothing worse than wasting your time having to leave the job because you need supplies that you didn't count on needing. Being the owner of a steel ketch I know the difficulties you are and will encounter. Stay strong I have every belief you will get the better of it. Cheers Jerome
Love this project and the insight into the problem solving. Keep it up!
Stu,now you know what it's like working on older cars here in Detroit. Good thing our boats live in fresh water. Others have mentioned that maybe the post is tapered and installed from the top. Maybe it does have to be forced up through the deck and not down through the hull. You could try grinding down to bare metal and welding attachment points for using a bottle jack as a press. I've heard diesel fuel and trans fluid will break stuff free.
You have some good ideas there , another idea just for the heck of it is to cut the rudder flange off underneath and drill a hole in the shaft itself. Start with a small pilot drill and increase in size. Try some heat on the outside of the rudder tube underneath and maybe inside as well and maybe you could beat it out with a drift or even jack it out. The dry ice is also a great tool . Good luck , you will get it out.
I work on tug boats and we usually use oxy/acetylene torch to wash the welds out... Ive been using my plasma cutter for stuff like that recently... Saves on fuel bills😁... If you turn it down to about 25-40 amps and put it on continuous air you can wash them welds out just the same with less heat and its much cleaner cuts... I heard you mention you had a plasma... I would definitely bring it over if that air compressor will handle it... Keep it up... Looking good
Jeff
I am really enjoying this. As has been said before you learn so much more from seeing real problems attacked and solved. Keep up the talk I need to know what you are thinking.
Really loved all of the videos stu i really hope you get more subcribers finding your channel has really helped reignite my pursuit of becoming a marine mechanic, i can't wait to see the end result for the trawler and the progress videos
Don't stop talking, I'm crap at Charades!
Love the vid's mate, keep up the great work.
I'm enjoying this series. Keep up the good work. I've never worked on a boat but this project looks like something I would be interested in.
I'd go for the solvent solution, but hit it every day for a week or so. I just love watching you grind.... much better than me doing it...hahaha
Best DIY channel on UA-cam
I'm stoked about this rebuild refit. I was waiting with the anticipation of seeing your metal working skills. Only to see a spinning of wheels. Removing the bolster plate on the hull can be done quickly and easily with a cutting torch. I would like to see a sand blasting of the hull (rented equipment) in prep for paint. Place a steel rod on rudder post and use a 3# hammer or larger,AFTER you remove what ever is designed to hold it on. A backing plate (bolster) of steel supporting the hull steel for rudder is in order if more force than your using now. It looks rather wimpy for a rudder you might consider a larger diameter . It could save time with little extra money.
I must say you do amaze me brother, you sure are ambitious! The oxy torch is going to be super helpful. I'm sure you have already tried an air hammer, so the jack hammer might have to be the ticket.
The liquid nitrogen would definitely cool the outside. You know on a lot of Johnson outboards that have the steering bracket that locks up. We drill holes in them and install a zert fitting. You could also drill a hole at the bottom and see if you can heat the old grease and let it drip out like you said.
Maybe with a couple of zert fittings you can pump some new grease in, but you don't want to pump in so much that it forces the old stuff to the ends and then just sticks up in the ends. Either way when you get the oxy torch you will be in a much better position with the right amount of heat to get it done.
Don't worry about what people say about talking too much, your giving great advice!
It's a treat to be able to talk in your videos, there is a forklift running at all times at my shop so we have to voice over all of the videos!
PS: I think we will stick to fiberglass, it's much easier to mess with :) you should check out our video that is coming out tomorrow, we are repowering and rewiring a 1999 34' Venture! It's turning out to be a great video, I hope you will check it out!
Thanks for all of your videos, they are a great inspiration!
“Turned out to be a bigger job ...”. Interesting project. Steel and salt water equals corrosion, but we all know that going in. Good work. Good luck.
probably been said a hundred times already, but there must be a snap ring or equivalent in there somewhere. I hope you got the large size oxy/acetylene bottles, you will likely need them. I wouldn't be surprised if the solution for the rudder post is to cut the entire assembly out of the boat and deal with it on a bench/ in a machine shop etc.
oxy/acetylene is a great way of removing things like that wear strip also. use a heavily oxidizing flame (wear a face shield and shirt/long pants) and the scale will first explode off the hull then the wear strip will simply melt away. the violent nature of the heavily oxidizing flame acts like a diffuse cutting jet such that you can remove the outer layer of steel without cutting into the hull proper. I don't know much about boats but I'm no stranger to dealing with heavily rusted out multi layer steel components.
best of luck in your adventure.
A few things I thought of were if you want to create a dam or catchment around the top bushing to hold some sort of penetrant you could use a peice of lay flat irrigation hose and a good hose lamp Or muiltiple joined together for correct size.
Another suggesting is to get yourself a gouging tip for your oxy/acetylene when it rocks up, really handy thing to have. Other suggestion is to get a drill bit and hollow rudder post from the top and the bottom where the bushings are, this allows the metal to shrink more. Could even go as far as doing this then slipping a hose over the bottom of the shaft and running it up high to the gunwale and pour liquid nitrogen down it.
I think at the end of the day you are better off probably cutting the shaft at eirther end and gouging it out without nicking the bushing and having a new shaft made. Love the videos, have kept me occupied while injured- kind Regards an HD diesel fitter in WA.
Very interesting and a 1 finger salute to those who say you talk too much!!!
This will sound crazy, but thread the plug back into the deck (the one you took out with the sitllson wrench) about 3/4 deep. Make an short iron rod to extend from the bottom of the plug to the top of the rudder post. Continue tightening the plug to push the post down. You can also hammer the plug from above once it's tight.
Like an aircraft fitter I have had a lot to do with car engines at home. I grew up on them. Plus gas was a substance that was used some years ago to free rusted bolts and shafts. You had to apply it every day for a couple of days before attempting to free what ever was stuck.
Very interesting upload I have been following this project, it looks like you have a lot to resolve to get the boat ship shape. But nothing that time and effort cannot resolve looking forward to your next installment regards from the uk.
Great progress mate...well done ! The awesome journey continues and so too the great tips for us punters along the way should we ever venture down this path when we get sick of the tinnies. BTW keep the chat up ...it's how we learn :)
Thanks Mark. Have had the rudder post soaking in oil. Going to give it another crack today. :)
Thanks for talking about what you think and doing? . Makes it better for you and us😊.
When you say : "Thats my problem not yours.", Well dont worry about that, your problems is our entertainment. The more problems you have and the more problems you solve, the more interesting theses videos are.
Great video, heat is always your friend in these situations.
Got a Great laugh at your miming comment !!! You are awesome. Keep up the hard work...you'll get there.