Hey to everyone who thinks nick scams/exploits kids for money, I challenge you to look through every video and fin the evidence. Every video I've seen covering this issue so far goes over Arcch's video in which he stretches the truth and makes false allegations and lies to make his case. I'm going to post the same message I have on every video I've seen in both the comments and the reply to the video of each creator going over this subject. Here is an evaluation of Arcch's video Video (Nick Eh 30 Scammed Me...) thumbnail (titles Nick as a "Fort Scammer") www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLIdh... Let's look at all of his accusations/statements/reasoning/context 0:00 - Accusation 1: Nick has scammed Arcch (In the title of the video) (scamming isn't something to take Lightly) 0:09 - Accusation 2: Nick exploits his viewers for money (pretty scary title to give a person like Nick) 0:30 - Arcch is typing out a the only example of his dono chat he posts in the video(chat ends with "appreciate all you do man" 0:32 - Arcch says for 4 dollars, Nick would only need ten seconds to respond. This is a selfish standard to set for Nick as Nick has never provided this as a perk for donating to him 0:39 - When Nick reads the message, it isn't the same as the example previously given. !!! 0:40 - Nick tells Arcch what he is willing to do for his video idea. "If you have an idea, I'd more than likely be happy to say it" followed by Nick saying he doesn't have any ideas off the top of his head and say he'd be recording ideas if he had them" and proceeds to remind arrch that he'd be willing to "say" a video idea "if that's what you'd like" (This is the very first bit of context we ever get and seems to be to root of the accusations) 0:58 - Arrch calls this weird behavior rather than deciphering what Nick is trying to communicate here and pushes the idea that it's weird that nick didn't just give him a challenge (This is irrational reasoning and thus the root of a problem that never should've started) 1:20 - Arcch insists that Nick instead decide what out of two or more options he should use for a video (This is demanding behavior) (donation 2) 1:33 - Arcch said Nick proceeded to "flat out" ignore his second donation (This is something Nick is allowed to do) (No evidence provided, nick could have read it without saying it out loud, he could have skimmed through it without catching points. There just isn't enough evidence here) 1:46 - Donation 3: Arcch tries tells Nick that he missed his previous donation message. (Only one example shown on screen) 1:50 - After Arcch finishes explaining what he said in dono message three he states "and I specified which two challenges I would like him to him to give me as in his own words this was okay" This is a lie as Nick never agreed to "give" him a challenge. This doesn't even match to the quote he puts on screen 1:58 - Arcch says Nick is lied when Nick said that he did read the donation There isn't evidence of Nick not reading it so Arcch can't back this up 2:03 - Arcch has provided clips of Nick's responses 1. Nick says he answer Arcch's donation in full (He has conveyed that he won't be contributing video ideas to Arcch as much as he needed in response to Arcch's donation) 2. Nick calls Arcch out for not paying attention (this happened at the beginning of their back and forth) and that Arrch has had to be told three times. Nick then says again that he read through Arcch's message 2:17 - Arrch concludes that Nick "must have ignored it or just not read it and then just flat out lied to me" in regards to his "message" which is lacks true evidence as again Nick could have read it without saying it out loud, he could have skimmed through it without catching points, we just don't know. 2:28 - Nick addresses Arcch and gives him an offer "if you have a challenge that you would like me to give you, you give it to me" He has offered to give Arcch his own idea on stream after he's pushed him to give him what het wants Nick then tells Arcch again that he wants Arcch to come up with his own ideas, he'll say Arcch idea, and that Arcch need to stop spamming. The spamming in question: 3:32 3:00 - Arrch says that his came off a little rude and mentions the "like $8 or something" like it's a variable in the allegation" This is deceitful as i'll get out Arcch is taking Nick's tolerance for spamming and demanding attitude from himself as rude when Nick is clearly trying to help Arcch on his own terms 3:11 - Arcch donates again after Nick has lost a rank game, has been taken advantage of, spammed and disrespected. His response - "Arcch thank you" 3:25 - Arcch says that he doesn't understand "what's hurt this man's feelings" Let's reevaluate Nick said "Arcch thank you" And Arcch said "what's hurt this man's feelings" 3:28 - Arcch says that it's weird that Nick's response led to Arcch spending more and more money There are so many things wrong with this as well 1. This was Arcch's decision to make 2. This was a lie, he should have said "These events occurred in this sequence" as this was not a cause and effect rather a subtle argument to Nick being the root cause of Arcch's spending habits This is how much money in donations Arcch has donated adding by message sent for further evaluation 0:25: +4 1:20: +2 1:46: +2 3:09: +2 3:32 +2 +2 +2 +2 +2 +3 I count $23 dollars and 10 total donations 3:34 - Arcch claims that all of the donations thus far were polite 3:40 - Arcch claims that Nick didn't have respect for him 3:45 - Arcch claims to have sent another donation before getting banned from donations ($23+ and 11 donations) 3:53 - this whole accusation (The context is a video of Nick doing absolutely nothing to prove this, this was definitely ill intent) From there on, Arcch continues to lie and make false claims as previously hinted to and or stated If you have questions feel free to ask Guys, please don't believe everything you see on the internet. Question everything, and confirm that you've found the truth. Don't even take my word for it. Spammer out.
@@SPAMMER_G blud is making 0 points. most of nicks viewers aren't even teens yet. how are they suppose to post their proof if they aren't even old enough to post and don't even have a fan base
@@Hurdles7you are right. He demanded Nick to say a challenge that he could use for a video, and when Nick missed the donation one time, he started demanding in more donations which got Nick mad, and would get me mad if I was in nicks position.
"he donated 3 times and he got the answer in the first 1" that is not what happened. He donated, nick told him to name a challenge that he should say, he gave 2 options, and then nick lied about giving a challenge. idk why you're trying to be neutral when nicks clearly in the wrong, nick isn't obligated to give a challenge but it literally takes 2 seconds, any other streamer like sypher or ninja would have given 1 the first time they saw him ask.
Of course im trying to stay neutral, I dont want to flame/be flamed by either side but I defiently think I took more a support of Arcch. Rewatching his video, the 2 options he said could be interpreted differently, as he said "could you give me maybe the x only challenge or x challenge" & his dono said " something like x challenge". It could be taken literially like give me X, or it could be taken as him listing examples for Nick Eh 30 to come up with. And since he said "maybe" & listed more than one, It sounded more like he was giving examples. Either way Nick Eh 30 failed to see this donation so it doesnt matter. Obv nobody is perfect in these situations and my video was meant to highlight boths wrongdoings.
@@John6-40 honestly between those two,nick did worse response than aarch,yes sure he kinda feels trolled him,but at least he's trying ask him for a challenge idea. But instead answered property nicely,nick just been a jerk and hypocrite about it. Lying to everyone aarch has "positively aggression" towards him. Unfortunately its nick been positively aggression towards aarch. Like seriously. He has million subscribers while the other dude as less. Who's more dangerous to think about it?
@@TylerLudo Well I agree and disagree at the same time. As a viewer and seen what happened. Nick did worse response while aarch get victim. Like c'mon, been a hypocrite and lying aarch as "positively aggression" towards him. Honestly I'm losing trust towards nick. If he doesn't apologize and admit what he did. People will continue accusing him
"more than likely be happy to say it". What is he even saying? "I don't have any ideas off the top of my head. If I had ideas I'd be recording it". The look on his face afterwards...so weird. All he had to do was say, "hey chat let's give this guy a challenge idea" and then he could have just said the challenge. Such a strange response.
I've never liked nick something about him tells me something is sus with that dude plus he's a huge hypocrite.. Nick didn't have to talk and treat arch like that man
@@olusegunbelconNo he's not. Nick was being a prick, but the other dude (archh?) was spamming donations knowing Nick was in a bad mood. He did it for clout, and to make a video about it. The joke was that Nick WAS the "video idea". 😂
this is actually the dumbest drama ever. a streamer owes NOTHING to someone just because they donated. Nick getting annoyed was completely valid. Arch is actually such a child for this. im not even a nick fan but he was totally in the right for all of this
Exactly. Donating is out of your own choice. Nick owes NOTHING TO YOU FOR DONATING. He doesn’t know you are going to donate and isn’t forcing you to donate. He doesn’t owe you anything more than providing the content he already records and the streams he already does.
Fun fact: calling someone a "douche bag/scum bag" isn't family friendly in many areas. I personally know a lot of people who find those words very wrong to say especially around young kids (Nicks audience) Even if not everyone agrees with that statement I know a good chunk of people that do and therefore he *partially* broke his family friendly rule when talking about Arcch.
The thing is, he didn't even ask Nick for a VIDEO IDEA. The video idea was already there, it was "Asking big streamers for Fortnite challenges" and doing them. He wasnt asking Nick to come up with a WHOLE VIDEO IDEA at the expense of 10 dollars. It was not "dance for me" for 10 dollars. Also, Nick said for the first donation that he can just say whatever challenge Arcch wants him to say so that he can just say it and Arrch would use the clip in the video, Arrch then does that and Nick completely ignores it. What probably happened was, after what Nick said for the first dono, he realized and decided it was a bad idea and didn't want to be in the video of a creator he didnt know (or any other reason, he just didnt want to do this anymore, which is acceptable), so he just flat out ignored the 2nd dono to get away with it (Which is bad in itself, you can just read the dono out loud and say you decided you dont wanna do it anymore and offer to return the dono). Then Arrch pushes forward (rightfully so, because Nick literally ignored a donation. A streamer ignoring a donation, that is how you make money bro, have some respect.) and Nick just gets mad and starts lying because of how much of a man child he is and how massive and unsatisfiable of an ego he has, and since he never backs down and never gives up, he just doesn't stand up for his mistake and keeps fighting to somehow make himself in the right. Turns out he deleted that stream, he bans anybody asking about this topic in his streams too. Basically, anything not going in the scenario he wants things to go in, he uses everything in his power to prevent it. Such childish behavior bro.
That's not what happened though. Arcch said "Can you give me a challenge like one chest or shotgun only" and Nick said "I'm not going to make something up BUT if you TELL me what you want me to say I'll say it" and then Arcch proceeded to not tell him exactly what he wanted so Nick never did. The literal second Nick said "Dude just tell me what to say" the ONLY thing Arcch should have said is "SAY ((the exact challenge he wants))", not "I already said it before" or "Say something LIKE one chest challenge". If he just stopped being difficult and said what he wanted Nick never would have had a problem. The only problem is that Arcch was being difficult for no reason and Nick lost his patience with him.
@@Sega_Saga Is eh-mazingly dumb, seriously 🤦♂ Anyone just says "I don't like this guy" and search for the dumbest reason to cancel them. Use your voices for something actually meaningful. Nick didn't scammed anyone, he was unpolite for the first time when Ninja and the rest have been rude 1 million times, you all just are using the "he fakes being nice" whenever someone is actually trying to be nice and fails. So stupid.
Bro should’ve took the hint and stopped donating after the first time. What else is there to say? It escalated because arch wasn’t clear in what he wanted and he kept asking the same thing. Just cause he’s giving money doesn’t excuse him for being annoying. And now arch is taking advantage of the drama. This is one of the dumbest “dramas” ever
the fact that a 19 yr old youtuber who isn't that famous and gets roughly 10K views is able to handle this more professionally than a 29 yr old multi millionaire who has more than a million subs is crazy, nick what happened to your kind attitude towards people man.
right, and also people at this point are just making video's about the 'situation' for clout. because everyone can see that it is not that big of a deal. he's not a fking puppet who does what you want him to. it wasn't even a problem until Arcch made a video about it and it blew up. I am in no way a big nickeh30 fan, but this is just stupid
Most of the things you say is not right for examples like damann7778 said, he didn’t get answer even in his first donation, Nick eh 30 when he got the first donation, it was 2 options of challenges and Arcch also gave him ideas but Nick eh 30 didn’t really give a answer so he donated again and kept going until Nick eh 30 just banned him from donating
dude, this is so goddam overblown. He got irritated by ONE commenter and ignored a single persons Donos And people are acting like he stole money from hundreds of child fans
@@ObliviousT1me Arcch spammed Nick to get anything worth controversy and failed to do this so he lied. I tried warning Arcch to take the video down and apologize but here we are
I like the fact that he’s so stupid he acts like oh you’re trying to make me look bad but you’re making yourself look bad by making a response of that caliber I’ve liked Nick Eh 30. He always came off to me as a snarky little punk.
Nick did everything he should of in response to Arcch. Arcch tried his hardest to build a senario where Nick Eh would look as bad as possible and Nick called him out on stream to all of his viewers. Nick just gave his viewers one of the most important pieces of advice he ever has. Please revaluate.
1. Nick Eh 30 can low key be a bit defensive or even rude. 2. The guy sending donations was an adult with a channel, trolling Nick to get content. He literally got what he wanted. A ton of attention for his channel. He kept sending little $2 donations over and over to piss Nick off. He's not entitled to an answer.
I hope you know that arrch LITTERLY did say what challenge he wanted so maybe you should go watch the videos again because you are spreading a lot of misinformation. I know that this comes off a bit rude and I’m sorry for that but I support arrch and I think that if you are going to make a video like this you need to get your facts right
It's better to support the truth than a single person in relevance to a controversy. Getting your facts right like you said though is SUPER important. The more misinformation it spread, the harder it is to find the truth. That's why it's so important to back up claims.
This "drama" is the definition of slop, the dude got a response to his first dono, kept donating, which is just a dumb move and he should've given Nick an idea, which Nick even said if he did he would say it so dude could include him in the video, or, get this, just move along. Instead he kept asking the same thing, and on top of it, called Nick a scammer? Dude knows what he's doing.
Bro if you donate to talk to streamers get help who the hell gives money to someone if they do shit like this. Don't give money to the wrong people and that's it
@@SPAMMER_G What do you mean? Bro the man saw Nick didn't gave a shit about his message, and his first thought is to donate to him 4 more times? That is just braindead and also being desperate☠️
@@MarianzYT Imma break this down for you Video (Nick Eh 30 Scammed Me...) thumbnail (titles Nick as a "Fort Scammer") www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLIdh... Let's look at all of his accusations/statements/reasoning/context 0:00 - Accusation 1: Nick has scammed Arcch (In the title of the video) (scamming isn't something to take Lightly) 0:09 - Accusation 2: Nick exploits his viewers for money (pretty scary title to give a person like Nick) 0:30 - Arcch is typing out a the only example of his dono chat he posts in the video(chat ends with "appreciate all you do man" 0:32 - Arcch says for 4 dollars, Nick would only need ten seconds to respond. This is a selfish standard to set for Nick as Nick has never provided this as a perk for donating to him 0:39 - When Nick reads the message, it isn't the same as the example previously given. !!! 0:40 - Nick tells Arcch what he is willing to do for his video idea. "If you have an idea, I'd more than likely be happy to say it" followed by Nick saying he doesn't have any ideas off the top of his head and say he'd be recording ideas if he had them" and proceeds to remind arrch that he'd be willing to "say" a video idea "if that's what you'd like" (This is the very first bit of context we ever get and seems to be to root of the accusations) 0:58 - Arrch calls this weird behavior rather than deciphering what Nick is trying to communicate here and pushes the idea that it's weird that nick didn't just give him a challenge (This is irrational reasoning and thus the root of a problem that never should've started) 1:20 - Arcch insists that Nick instead decide what out of two or more options he should use for a video (This is demanding behavior) (donation 2) 1:33 - Arcch said Nick proceeded to "flat out" ignore his second donation (This is something Nick is allowed to do) (No evidence provided, nick could have read it without saying it out loud, he could have skimmed through it without catching points. There just isn't enough evidence here) 1:46 - Donation 3: Arcch tries tells Nick that he missed his previous donation message. (Only one example shown on screen) 1:50 - After Arcch finishes explaining what he said in dono message three he states "and I specified which two challenges I would like him to him to give me as in his own words this was okay" This is a lie as Nick never agreed to "give" him a challenge. This doesn't even match to the quote he puts on screen 1:58 - Arcch says Nick is lied when Nick said that he did read the donation There isn't evidence of Nick not reading it so Arcch can't back this up 2:03 - Arcch has provided clips of Nick's responses 1. Nick says he answer Arcch's donation in full (He has conveyed that he won't be contributing video ideas to Arcch as much as he needed in response to Arcch's donation) 2. Nick calls Arcch out for not paying attention (this happened at the beginning of their back and forth) and that Arrch has had to be told three times. Nick then says again that he read through Arcch's message 2:17 - Arrch concludes that Nick "must have ignored it or just not read it and then just flat out lied to me" in regards to his "message" which is lacks true evidence as again Nick could have read it without saying it out loud, he could have skimmed through it without catching points, we just don't know. 2:28 - Nick addresses Arcch and gives him an offer "if you have a challenge that you would like me to give you, you give it to me" He has offered to give Arcch his own idea on stream after he's pushed him to give him what het wants Nick then tells Arcch again that he wants Arcch to come up with his own ideas, he'll say Arcch idea, and that Arcch need to stop spamming. The spamming in question: 3:32 3:00 - Arrch says that his came off a little rude and mentions the "like $8 or something" like it's a variable in the allegation" This is deceitful as i'll get out Arcch is taking Nick's tolerance for spamming and demanding attitude from himself as rude when Nick is clearly trying to help Arcch on his own terms 3:11 - Arcch donates again after Nick has lost a rank game, has been taken advantage of, spammed and disrespected. His response - "Arcch thank you" 3:25 - Arcch says that he doesn't understand "what's hurt this man's feelings" Let's reevaluate Nick said "Arcch thank you" And Arcch said "what's hurt this man's feelings" 3:28 - Arcch says that it's weird that Nick's response led to Arcch spending more and more money There are so many things wrong with this as well 1. This was Arcch's decision to make 2. This was a lie, he should have said "These events occurred in this sequence" as this was not a cause and effect rather a subtle argument to Nick being the root cause of Arcch's spending habits This is how much money in donations Arcch has donated adding by message sent for further evaluation 0:25: +4 1:20: +2 1:46: +2 3:09: +2 3:32 +2 +2 +2 +2 +2 +3 I count $23 dollars and 10 total donations 3:34 - Arcch claims that all of the donations thus far were polite 3:40 - Arcch claims that Nick didn't have respect for him 3:45 - Arcch claims to have sent another donation before getting banned from donations ($23+ and 11 donations) 3:53 - this whole accusation (The context is a video of Nick doing absolutely nothing to prove this, this was definitely ill intent) From there on, Arcch continues to lie and make false claims as previously hinted to and or stated Got questions mate?
@@SPAMMER_G Holy moly I read all that and you nailed it brother. You need to make a video covering all these points for people that don't like to read. Arch is way off base with this one and you can see his creepy little fingers grasping for any straws he can get. He even says in his second video that the reason why he made the first was to "warn parents" about Nick's behavior, but he doesn't mention that AT ALL in the first video either, so you can tell he's being deceptive and switching up his narrative in real time.
Hey Tyler I think my story needs to be told aswell I remember meeting Nick in 2016 & he’s not the same person. I made a whole song for him spent weeks working on it 😕 the song is pretty good I donated over $100 to him trying to get his attention so he can recognize the song he read the comments and completely ignored them all. For that same week I kept trying each day the same thing would happen until he finally banned me so I practically wasted all that money 💴 & he didn’t even care to look at the song. I really need my story to be told can you please help me? Tyler
Hey bud, sorry that happened to you, but you should realize that a donation is not a payment and Nick is under no obligation to you because you donated. You can't buy his time or attention and you can't buy your own exposure on his name. I hope you've learned from this experience that if the first or second "donation" don't click you should quickly realize that it's not going to happen. You're right that you did waste that money because you wanted it to get his attention and it didn't which isn't what a DONATION is for. I hope you're doing well now bud.
"He donated 3 times, and he got the answer in the first 1." Well, not really. Nick told him that he could tell him a challenge, and he would repeat it for the video. Arch donated again and gave him 2 examples that he could have given him, but Nick ignored him and lied about responding.
Giving "two examples" isn't telling Nick what to say though. It's still making Nick choose. Arch should have just said something extremely specific once and got it over with. Nick didn't want to be put on the spot to come up with an idea. Saying "Say something like one chest challenge" is not the same thing as saying "Say one chest challenge".
@@dijonmustard1970 It's still disappointing for Arcch to donate so much money just for Nick to lie and not even be able to think of a simple challenge.
@@SMLTheoryReuploaded "Disappointing".... It's called a donation, not a payment. Arch was lucky Nick even interacted with the first one, he has no obligation to. You can't pay people to do things for you, its not what Superchats or Donations are for. Nick never lied because he said he WOULD say WHAT Arch wanted him to and Arch never said what he wanted. It's so black and white its so mind boggling people can't understand that.
For short: Arcch got NOT scammed! This is just an artificial drama, after 2 person misunderstood each other and their role in the world of live streaming and content creation. Both are faulty, with their behavior! 99,99% of "BIG" streamers/content creators, do same like NickEH30 did, if they get donations like those! He is fraud, because he lost his family friendly persona and still try to act like, he still is, BUT not scammer! I'm not a doctor, but I think Nick may have mental health problems (like lot of streamers have), which were developed for years now. That is why he is egoistic and he may have narcissistic personality disorder. NickEH30 needs HELP from a from a mental hygiene specialist and NOT to roast and harass him!!! ----------------- ----------------- If you want more to read about it, this is how I think commented this incident under some videos » TLDR; 1. Arcch - "Nick Eh 30 Scams His Viewers..." My comment: Judging streamers and content creators is a hard topic! @DesignedAssassin , I watched the stream live too. he was very tired. @ArcchPlays If you watch the whole stream again, then you will see that how exhausted he was. Just count how many times he tried to stretch his back and neck. If you want to make an "NickEH30 exposed" video and get view boosted by that, than I can give you an Idea: - Make a video about him, how he changed over the years, for the worse. From 2017 to 2024. It is shocking, how he got sold for views and money. He is rushing all the time in his games to "make content" by trying out-skill opponents and whining, complaining all the time now if he get eliminated by someone or he mess things up in the rush. Most of the fights he easily can win, if he not rush and just think a bit, like he did in an OG mode match. Poor SanchoWest. He get left behind a lot of times and Nick just not care. At least some times, when a new season get released, when everything is new for Nick as well, then the friendship from still Nick shining a little. There is a bit hope left. Nick not completely lost in the cruel world of streaming and content creation. (Btw he is not the only one, who has changed for the worse. SypherPK, CouRageJD do the same. How many times Jack comes up with viewer counts and likes, shares, etc.) The kind, honest, genuine NickEH30 is sadly long gone. I think these are NOT family friendly: - Making clickbait thumbnails (this is blatant liing) - After downing an enemy, he goes there and crouch on their heads and make fart noises. - Asking the mods to blow up houses (this is not funny and not consider a joke, as he intended) - Using the word "crap" and pretend that is not equal to "sh!t", "turd", etc. What words are acceptable and what aren't? - Backing up from the chair and slapping his butt front of the camera is not family friendly either - etc. You can made a 24 or even 100 hours video from him not being as a "nice guy". But you can not deny, he is working hard to earn a lot of money, even he is a fraud now with this fake family friendly persona he developed. I hope the "younger Nick" is there somewhere and one day he returns. ps.: Another Idea (about how egoistic he is): - Which streamer has 1000s of outfits and only using ONE - Who name every locker set from his creator code pps.: I think the world is still better place with the streamer NIckEH30, than with MD. Nicholas Amyoony. Sadly I met a lot of doctors, with this kind of ego, who needed to get begged, prayed for days to help out in difficult cases, which he did at least, with only 1 telephone call in the end. It was very easy to do, but they had to be treated as if they were a god. --- 2. Arcch - "Nick Eh 30 is a LIAR..." and 3. Firegamer V2 - "The Truth Behind Nick Eh 30's Controversy.." My comments: Arcch got NOT scammed! This is just an artificial drama, after 2 person misunderstood each other and their role in the world of live streaming and content creation. Both are faulty, with their behavior! 99,99% of "BIG" streamers/content creators, do same like NickEH30 did, if they get donations like those! He is fraud, because he lost his family friendly persona and still try to act like, he still is, BUT not scammer! Arcch was NOT be scammed in any meaning of the word! If Arcch will have luck and he achieve the same success as they, then he will do the same as well. This is how this job works. TLDR; Explanation about the situation, from a 3rd perspective (I am not on either of the sides): I see Arcch was not read comments, which are not on his side. Under that popular video, there are many comment about "that specific stream of his", which tell you that, what Nick said as well. I wrote it too. I write it again: Nick was very exhausted, physically and mentally alike (watch the stream again, if anyone need it...Arcch said, in that most viewed video, that he watched it multiple times...and look at his posture, the back and neck stretches, and listen what he say about his day), after he worked 12+ hours in his business (video editing, e-mails, etc.). And when someone feels himself so tired, they may NOT understand a poorly worded donation message, then he not to be blamed about it. Next time the message, maybe need to be written more clear, what man want to ask from him. And to make it clear: If someone is donating to anybody, anywhere, then that is a DONATION and NOT buying (in this example, a service from NIckEH30) !!! Everyone, please just understand the meaning of the word: donation. It will help a lot. Thanks! THERE IS NO GARANTEE anywhere in UA-cam or Twitch Term of Service, for the thing, what Arcch asked for. The streamer/content creator is CAN NOT BE FORCED to do a service for the donation from viewers! Man is just a viewer, watch and listen to a FREE broadcast. That is all! Subscriptions can be bought and give the subscriber will get some kind of service for that, which man can read about. Donations are NOT subscriptions! Donation is: giving something to someone, WITHOUT getting something from them. I hope everyone, who read this comment, understand the meaning of the word: "donation". This is my last comment about this, because it is just "inflated balloon", which can burst any minute now and will be gone and forgotten, in the history of NickEh30 and Arcch. ...Or they will sue each other and Nick will win, because he did nothing against the TOS. Either way, Arcch will learn the meanings of some words and Nick will learn to NOT read these kind of forced, pushed donations loudly, because some people will exploit it to their benefit. I hope both sides will draw the conclusion, from this incident: Do NOT rush always, with your actions and think before acting! Thanks for read all of this 3rd person perspective! I hope you all, all the best for the new year! Bye!
Brother, you gonna need to condense the TLDR portion of your reply because holy hell that wasn’t even a TLDR, it was a yap, but like an actual yap. That was a “Yap Lite Edition” kind of yap.
Nick is NOT in the wrong here. He is NOT obligated to respond to a donation with anything but a "thank you." Arcch was just trying to create drama to gain attention and clout. Nick was a perfect target since he's a huge creator that isn't already without his controversies, so Arcch knew there was an audience for a video on the beef.
He wasn't trying to create drama for clout Arcch literally said in his video he doesn't take UA-cam serious which makes sense as his upload schedule is practically non existent and he doesn't make money off of it which he proved in his video so that argument about him doing it for clout doesn't make much sense.
Imma give a little feedback, dont say constantly "I think this drama is stupid" or "I dont care" etc. It makes things seem MUCH more neglectful and only done out of obligation, nothing against you just worth keeping in mind. My actual response: While yes Arrch should have stopped, I dont see where poking at Nickeh30 would be a good video? Also Arrch had shown he made NOTHING off the videos. It seems odd to claim clout and/or profit when there is no profit. Nickeh30 also responded in a poor manner, I have been annoyed before I get nick has stress whatever but responding with "Hes a douchebag he's a scumbag etc" is just not cool 90% of the time. I get stressed sometimes, yet I try to keep a temper. Nick is an influence for children, this isnt proper nor good for children to be seeing/hearing. I am willing to hear your side/discuss this more if you see this and respond.
I'd argue that Nick actually protected his younger viewers and was a good influence in this situation. Not only did he call out someone spreading misinformation online, he made the general consensus that the video wasn't worth his time while leaving the impression that his younger viewers shouldn't be doing this either.
@SPAMMER_G what Nick did was make a misunderstanding worse. Instead of saying "Oh my bad I messed up heres a challenge" he responded in an immature manner. Using scumbag and douchebag is once again, not great and speculating why someone made a video but not giving sound reasoning is worse. Arcch provided proof he made barely anything. What Nick did was respond in an immature manner and turned a lot of people against him
You know. I would never watch a single second of Nickeh30. But this Arrch guy just seems like he is trying his hardest to be relevant. You can’t sit here and say that Nick is a scammer with the most click baity thumbnail you can have. When YOU are the one donating five times. Nick didn’t force you at all. He never saw your second donation. So that’s the reason he got really annoyed. Yes it would’ve been really easy to just come up with a challenge idea in a few seconds. But maybe he had a lot of stuff on his mind. And he wasn’t thinking straight. Who knows. All I know is that this Arrch guy seems very entitled. And Nick didn’t address the video properly. That simple.
Hey to everyone who thinks nick scams/exploits kids for money, I challenge you to look through every video and fin the evidence. Every video I've seen covering this issue so far goes over Arcch's video in which he stretches the truth and makes false allegations and lies to make his case. I'm going to post the same message I have on every video I've seen in both the comments and the reply to the video of each creator going over this subject. Here is an evaluation of Arcch's video Video (Nick Eh 30 Scammed Me...) thumbnail (titles Nick as a "Fort Scammer") www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLIdh... Let's look at all of his accusations/statements/reasoning/context 0:00 - Accusation 1: Nick has scammed Arcch (In the title of the video) (scamming isn't something to take Lightly) 0:09 - Accusation 2: Nick exploits his viewers for money (pretty scary title to give a person like Nick) 0:30 - Arcch is typing out a the only example of his dono chat he posts in the video(chat ends with "appreciate all you do man" 0:32 - Arcch says for 4 dollars, Nick would only need ten seconds to respond. This is a selfish standard to set for Nick as Nick has never provided this as a perk for donating to him 0:39 - When Nick reads the message, it isn't the same as the example previously given. !!! 0:40 - Nick tells Arcch what he is willing to do for his video idea. "If you have an idea, I'd more than likely be happy to say it" followed by Nick saying he doesn't have any ideas off the top of his head and say he'd be recording ideas if he had them" and proceeds to remind arrch that he'd be willing to "say" a video idea "if that's what you'd like" (This is the very first bit of context we ever get and seems to be to root of the accusations) 0:58 - Arrch calls this weird behavior rather than deciphering what Nick is trying to communicate here and pushes the idea that it's weird that nick didn't just give him a challenge (This is irrational reasoning and thus the root of a problem that never should've started) 1:20 - Arcch insists that Nick instead decide what out of two or more options he should use for a video (This is demanding behavior) (donation 2) 1:33 - Arcch said Nick proceeded to "flat out" ignore his second donation (This is something Nick is allowed to do) (No evidence provided, nick could have read it without saying it out loud, he could have skimmed through it without catching points. There just isn't enough evidence here) 1:46 - Donation 3: Arcch tries tells Nick that he missed his previous donation message. (Only one example shown on screen) 1:50 - After Arcch finishes explaining what he said in dono message three he states "and I specified which two challenges I would like him to him to give me as in his own words this was okay" This is a lie as Nick never agreed to "give" him a challenge. This doesn't even match to the quote he puts on screen 1:58 - Arcch says Nick is lied when Nick said that he did read the donation There isn't evidence of Nick not reading it so Arcch can't back this up 2:03 - Arcch has provided clips of Nick's responses 1. Nick says he answer Arcch's donation in full (He has conveyed that he won't be contributing video ideas to Arcch as much as he needed in response to Arcch's donation) 2. Nick calls Arcch out for not paying attention (this happened at the beginning of their back and forth) and that Arrch has had to be told three times. Nick then says again that he read through Arcch's message 2:17 - Arrch concludes that Nick "must have ignored it or just not read it and then just flat out lied to me" in regards to his "message" which is lacks true evidence as again Nick could have read it without saying it out loud, he could have skimmed through it without catching points, we just don't know. 2:28 - Nick addresses Arcch and gives him an offer "if you have a challenge that you would like me to give you, you give it to me" He has offered to give Arcch his own idea on stream after he's pushed him to give him what het wants Nick then tells Arcch again that he wants Arcch to come up with his own ideas, he'll say Arcch idea, and that Arcch need to stop spamming. The spamming in question: 3:32 3:00 - Arrch says that his came off a little rude and mentions the "like $8 or something" like it's a variable in the allegation" This is deceitful as i'll get out Arcch is taking Nick's tolerance for spamming and demanding attitude from himself as rude when Nick is clearly trying to help Arcch on his own terms 3:11 - Arcch donates again after Nick has lost a rank game, has been taken advantage of, spammed and disrespected. His response - "Arcch thank you" 3:25 - Arcch says that he doesn't understand "what's hurt this man's feelings" Let's reevaluate Nick said "Arcch thank you" And Arcch said "what's hurt this man's feelings" 3:28 - Arcch says that it's weird that Nick's response led to Arcch spending more and more money There are so many things wrong with this as well 1. This was Arcch's decision to make 2. This was a lie, he should have said "These events occurred in this sequence" as this was not a cause and effect rather a subtle argument to Nick being the root cause of Arcch's spending habits This is how much money in donations Arcch has donated adding by message sent for further evaluation 0:25: +4 1:20: +2 1:46: +2 3:09: +2 3:32 +2 +2 +2 +2 +2 +3 I count $23 dollars and 10 total donations 3:34 - Arcch claims that all of the donations thus far were polite 3:40 - Arcch claims that Nick didn't have respect for him 3:45 - Arcch claims to have sent another donation before getting banned from donations ($23+ and 11 donations) 3:53 - this whole accusation (The context is a video of Nick doing absolutely nothing to prove this, this was definitely ill intent) From there on, Arcch continues to lie and make false claims as previously hinted to and or stated Guys, please don't believe everything you see on the internet. Question everything, and confirm that you've found the truth. Don't even take my word for it. Spammer out.
Is it that hard for people to not do bad things i swear everyday i see these well known content creators or celebrities only for them to be a horrible person or a pedifile and it's on a daily basis
Arcch is literally just trying to give nick a bad picture of what he’s actually like. You can’t tell me arcch is genuine when he used the most click bait thumbnail then after his suspicions success now streams daily
@bendi9907 Yeah true but I really think Arcch is making it out to be way more deep than it actually is. I don’t watch nick but he probably just caught him after a bad loss or something and it’s not like he’s entitled to do anything just because a dono.
@PikeletTech but he is though because nick said if you have a challenge idea and you want me to say it I can...but he didn't so actually he did owe Arch something and said that he would do it. But then lied about saying the challenge also nick called arch scum and is trying to make his kid fan base attack arch.
I mean technically you could call it a scam depending on if nick wanted more money so instead of saying a challenge idea he said tell me one and I’ll say it thus engaging another donation and then he didn’t respond thus having another donation coming through and giving him more money. Not saying that’s what he was trying to do but if it was it kinda is genius and bad because that would make it a scam
No he didn't, he gave Nick two examples as in "something LIKE one chest challenge". Nick said he didn't want to have to think of something but he would just parrot if Arch wrote it, and Arch never wrote it he just started being passive aggressive. Saying "give me something like chocolate" is different than saying "give me chocolate". Arch NEVER said what he specifically wanted which is all Nick asked for.
I despise nick eh 30 a lot now even before he cannot take a joke correctly even if someone is trolling him, I've seen some of his content before dudes not even that funny as well. Bros about to be 30 years old soon and he's acting like this as well makes me sick to my stomach. but I feel like now he's gone too far now, and he needs to change
That's a very unfair thing to say about Nick. He just called out misinformation and rightfully so. The reason Nick is getting so much hate is because he keeps people who spread misinformation online from taking advantage of people. Please revaluate.
Nick swears several times an his mask slips off, yet people let it slide. His actions are extreme an have easy solutions he never uses, people let it slide. His content is repetitive an uncreative, people let it slide...say ANYTHING about it an the people will crucify you. Some people...are sheep, that is your public service announcement have a good day. (Due to recent interactions no replies will be made.)
I feel like nick should of been more gentle on the situation and for him to call arch slurs was way out of line when he could of just gave him a challenge like nick said he was going to then all of sudden just back out from what he said he was going to do is kinda is a let down u can’t say your going to do something then just back out from it
I just watched the video and I think mick is acting entitled a bit. He knows that archer is like a kid and I feel bad as a 27 yo seeing that. I could never treat a kid with good intentions like that. I feel like he was having a bad day and took it out in a weird way. If he’s not in a good mood don’t get in stream. He could have said literally anything for a challenge. It’s not that hard. Especially as a UA-camr he could have named a challenge he already did or something silly. He even said he would say it for his video if that’s what he wanted but he wouldn’t just be a team player and give a silly idea. Weird.
1. Nick Eh 30 isn’t technically obligated to even read the donations 2. He didn’t lie about responding he gave his response 3. You are picking at breadcrumbs
@@hermesthegr8759 I’m not even glazing I don’t really like him at all but to call someone a scammer when you deliberately decided to keep donating after he starting ignoring you is stupid.
Get your facts straight like arcch gave him 2 ideas and you didn’t mention that even though that is very important to note so when making a video like that don’t leave out important parts
Trying to cancel Nick over this is crazy yall need to stop clout chasing. What little bros trying to do is get Nicks viewers that hes grinded and worked for all on his own to go over and watch his challenge video that Nick suggested. Its a cheap way of trying to promote ur channel/video off another big content creator
Nick agreed to give him a challenge if he gave him the options. Nick could have said no but instead he decided that it was a good idea to lie and act like nothing happened.
From your video Arch is 100% in the wrong. Like seriously, don’t go on a big time streamer’s stream and pay them money for a video idea. Nickeh30 is under no obligation to help him.
Just wanna let you know that I'm keeping screen shots of all the messages you delete including those on other channels and will be making a response video after having all my comments deleted. This is SPAMMER_G out.
nick eh pushing 30 actin like a kid is crazy to me
@@John6-40 no like he has the emotional state of a 10 year old
@@Z-IsTheNamelol
Hey to everyone who thinks nick scams/exploits kids for money, I challenge you to look through every video and fin the evidence. Every video I've seen covering this issue so far goes over Arcch's video in which he stretches the truth and makes false allegations and lies to make his case. I'm going to post the same message I have on every video I've seen in both the comments and the reply to the video of each creator going over this subject.
Here is an evaluation of Arcch's video
Video (Nick Eh 30 Scammed Me...) thumbnail (titles Nick as a "Fort Scammer")
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLIdh...
Let's look at all of his accusations/statements/reasoning/context
0:00 - Accusation 1: Nick has scammed Arcch (In the title of the video) (scamming isn't something to take Lightly)
0:09 - Accusation 2: Nick exploits his viewers for money (pretty scary title to give a person like Nick)
0:30 - Arcch is typing out a the only example of his dono chat he posts in the video(chat ends with "appreciate all you do man"
0:32 - Arcch says for 4 dollars, Nick would only need ten seconds to respond. This is a selfish standard to set for Nick as Nick has never provided this as a perk for donating to him
0:39 - When Nick reads the message, it isn't the same as the example previously given. !!!
0:40 - Nick tells Arcch what he is willing to do for his video idea. "If you have an idea, I'd more than likely be happy to say it" followed by Nick saying he doesn't have any ideas off the top of his head and say he'd be recording ideas if he had them" and proceeds to remind arrch that he'd be willing to "say" a video idea "if that's what you'd like" (This is the very first bit of context we ever get and seems to be to root of the accusations)
0:58 - Arrch calls this weird behavior rather than deciphering what Nick is trying to communicate here and pushes the idea that it's weird that nick didn't just give him a challenge (This is irrational reasoning and thus the root of a problem that never should've started)
1:20 - Arcch insists that Nick instead decide what out of two or more options he should use for a video (This is demanding behavior) (donation 2)
1:33 - Arcch said Nick proceeded to "flat out" ignore his second donation (This is something Nick is allowed to do) (No evidence provided, nick could have read it without saying it out loud, he could have skimmed through it without catching points. There just isn't enough evidence here)
1:46 - Donation 3: Arcch tries tells Nick that he missed his previous donation message. (Only one example shown on screen)
1:50 - After Arcch finishes explaining what he said in dono message three he states "and I specified which two challenges I would like him to him to give me as in his own words this was okay"
This is a lie as Nick never agreed to "give" him a challenge. This doesn't even match to the quote he puts on screen
1:58 - Arcch says Nick is lied when Nick said that he did read the donation
There isn't evidence of Nick not reading it so Arcch can't back this up
2:03 - Arcch has provided clips of Nick's responses
1. Nick says he answer Arcch's donation in full (He has conveyed that he won't be contributing video ideas to Arcch as much as he needed in response to Arcch's donation)
2. Nick calls Arcch out for not paying attention (this happened at the beginning of their back and forth) and that Arrch has had to be told three times. Nick then says again that he read through Arcch's message
2:17 - Arrch concludes that Nick "must have ignored it or just not read it and then just flat out lied to me" in regards to his "message" which is lacks true evidence as again Nick could have read it without saying it out loud, he could have skimmed through it without catching points, we just don't know.
2:28 - Nick addresses Arcch and gives him an offer
"if you have a challenge that you would like me to give you, you give it to me"
He has offered to give Arcch his own idea on stream after he's pushed him to give him what het wants
Nick then tells Arcch again that he wants Arcch to come up with his own ideas, he'll say Arcch idea, and that Arcch need to stop spamming.
The spamming in question: 3:32
3:00 - Arrch says that his came off a little rude and mentions the "like $8 or something" like it's a variable in the allegation"
This is deceitful as i'll get out
Arcch is taking Nick's tolerance for spamming and demanding attitude from himself as rude when Nick is clearly
trying to help Arcch on his own terms
3:11 - Arcch donates again after Nick has lost a rank game, has been taken advantage of, spammed and disrespected.
His response - "Arcch thank you"
3:25 - Arcch says that he doesn't understand "what's hurt this man's feelings"
Let's reevaluate
Nick said "Arcch thank you"
And Arcch said "what's hurt this man's feelings"
3:28 - Arcch says that it's weird that Nick's response led to Arcch spending more and more money
There are so many things wrong with this as well
1. This was Arcch's decision to make
2. This was a lie, he should have said "These events occurred in this sequence" as this was not a cause and effect
rather a subtle argument to Nick being the root cause of Arcch's spending habits
This is how much money in donations Arcch has donated adding by message sent for further evaluation
0:25: +4
1:20: +2
1:46: +2
3:09: +2
3:32 +2 +2 +2 +2 +2 +3
I count $23 dollars and 10 total donations
3:34 - Arcch claims that all of the donations thus far were polite
3:40 - Arcch claims that Nick didn't have respect for him
3:45 - Arcch claims to have sent another donation before getting banned from donations ($23+ and 11 donations)
3:53 - this whole accusation (The context is a video of Nick doing absolutely nothing to prove this, this was definitely ill intent)
From there on, Arcch continues to lie and make false claims as previously hinted to and or stated
If you have questions feel free to ask
Guys, please don't believe everything you see on the internet. Question everything, and confirm that you've found the truth. Don't even take my word for it. Spammer out.
@@SPAMMER_G lol your 9 years old copying and pasting. Your childish like nick too😂
@@SPAMMER_G blud is making 0 points. most of nicks viewers aren't even teens yet. how are they suppose to post their proof if they aren't even old enough to post and don't even have a fan base
we left nick in 2019 😭 he childish asf
Apparently not still got 8 mil
@@OKCOOL23 yes we did 2019 was his last year cause he was '' '' the 2019 edit god
Uh I think it was the 2017 edit god and if that’s the case ninja was the best Fortnite player in like 2017 that don’t mean we left him there
Nope, he isn't
@@SPAMMER_G Yes he is, why are you disagreeing it's a known fact.
I can't be the only one who understands that donating to a streamer doesn't make you entitled to the kind of interaction you ask for.
I’m saying to me it seems like the 19 year old is the entitled one he made a whole video just because he didn’t get what he wanted.
@@Hurdles7 fr
@@Hurdles7yeah i rather defend the 30 year old crybaby too, please stop it. Humanity is soft and you live off that softness
@@Hurdles7 Get off your knees little bro
@@Hurdles7you are right. He demanded Nick to say a challenge that he could use for a video, and when Nick missed the donation one time, he started demanding in more donations which got Nick mad, and would get me mad if I was in nicks position.
Honestly he fell off after his icon skin
Yeah😢😢😢
Like with every other creator! Why?!?
"he donated 3 times and he got the answer in the first 1" that is not what happened. He donated, nick told him to name a challenge that he should say, he gave 2 options, and then nick lied about giving a challenge. idk why you're trying to be neutral when nicks clearly in the wrong, nick isn't obligated to give a challenge but it literally takes 2 seconds, any other streamer like sypher or ninja would have given 1 the first time they saw him ask.
Fr, I don't think this guy understands what happened fully
@@Vynelv9 I agree,nick is the scumbag himself,not aarch
Of course im trying to stay neutral, I dont want to flame/be flamed by either side but I defiently think I took more a support of Arcch. Rewatching his video, the 2 options he said could be interpreted differently, as he said "could you give me maybe the x only challenge or x challenge" & his dono said " something like x challenge". It could be taken literially like give me X, or it could be taken as him listing examples for Nick Eh 30 to come up with. And since he said "maybe" & listed more than one, It sounded more like he was giving examples. Either way Nick Eh 30 failed to see this donation so it doesnt matter. Obv nobody is perfect in these situations and my video was meant to highlight boths wrongdoings.
@@John6-40 honestly between those two,nick did worse response than aarch,yes sure he kinda feels trolled him,but at least he's trying ask him for a challenge idea. But instead answered property nicely,nick just been a jerk and hypocrite about it. Lying to everyone aarch has "positively aggression" towards him. Unfortunately its nick been positively aggression towards aarch. Like seriously. He has million subscribers while the other dude as less. Who's more dangerous to think about it?
@@TylerLudo Well I agree and disagree at the same time. As a viewer and seen what happened. Nick did worse response while aarch get victim. Like c'mon, been a hypocrite and lying aarch as "positively aggression" towards him. Honestly I'm losing trust towards nick. If he doesn't apologize and admit what he did. People will continue accusing him
"more than likely be happy to say it". What is he even saying? "I don't have any ideas off the top of my head. If I had ideas I'd be recording it". The look on his face afterwards...so weird. All he had to do was say, "hey chat let's give this guy a challenge idea" and then he could have just said the challenge. Such a strange response.
We were supporting the same guy who refers himself to a king in every stream?
He's a Tyrant now
I've never liked nick something about him tells me something is sus with that dude plus he's a huge hypocrite.. Nick didn't have to talk and treat arch like that man
Fr,imagine you going out your way to pay to talk to your favorite content creator and he treats u like you is a piece is shit,sad man
Tyler is glazing nick
@@olusegunbelconNo he's not. Nick was being a prick, but the other dude (archh?) was spamming donations knowing Nick was in a bad mood. He did it for clout, and to make a video about it.
The joke was that Nick WAS the "video idea". 😂
@@John6-40bro got left in 2024😭🙏
@@olusegunbelconbro also got left in 2024🙏😭
In the words of Tony Stark: “I don’t trust a guy without a dark side.”
Nick should have just gave the guy his $15 back and avoided all of this drama, lol
How is nick forcing kids to pay him?
This is proof that we just ignore the real truth, stop spreading misinformation
i mean that's kinda on him for actually donating real money to a fortnite youtuber😂
this is actually the dumbest drama ever. a streamer owes NOTHING to someone just because they donated. Nick getting annoyed was completely valid. Arch is actually such a child for this. im not even a nick fan but he was totally in the right for all of this
Exactly. Donating is out of your own choice. Nick owes NOTHING TO YOU FOR DONATING. He doesn’t know you are going to donate and isn’t forcing you to donate. He doesn’t owe you anything more than providing the content he already records and the streams he already does.
Thank you. finally someone with a brain
Fun fact: calling someone a "douche bag/scum bag" isn't family friendly in many areas. I personally know a lot of people who find those words very wrong to say especially around young kids (Nicks audience) Even if not everyone agrees with that statement I know a good chunk of people that do and therefore he *partially* broke his family friendly rule when talking about Arcch.
Hey, at least Nick is emphasizing how horrible it is to spread misinformation online.
@@SPAMMER_G True
0:26 “Disney channel trailer” LMFAO 😂. But hey! You ain’t wrong mate haha. It literally gives Disney channel vibes tbf.
the way arcch did give him two options to say just like nick asked 😭😭😭
Nick don’t owe him shit but yeah kinda weird
The problem with this fan base is donating your money to a streamer that will forget about you after an hour lol
This NickEh30 drama is getting massive
wanna know something else thats massive?
dang bringing this to 2025 is crazy 😭🙏
The thing is, he didn't even ask Nick for a VIDEO IDEA. The video idea was already there, it was "Asking big streamers for Fortnite challenges" and doing them. He wasnt asking Nick to come up with a WHOLE VIDEO IDEA at the expense of 10 dollars. It was not "dance for me" for 10 dollars.
Also, Nick said for the first donation that he can just say whatever challenge Arcch wants him to say so that he can just say it and Arrch would use the clip in the video, Arrch then does that and Nick completely ignores it.
What probably happened was, after what Nick said for the first dono, he realized and decided it was a bad idea and didn't want to be in the video of a creator he didnt know (or any other reason, he just didnt want to do this anymore, which is acceptable), so he just flat out ignored the 2nd dono to get away with it (Which is bad in itself, you can just read the dono out loud and say you decided you dont wanna do it anymore and offer to return the dono). Then Arrch pushes forward (rightfully so, because Nick literally ignored a donation. A streamer ignoring a donation, that is how you make money bro, have some respect.) and Nick just gets mad and starts lying because of how much of a man child he is and how massive and unsatisfiable of an ego he has, and since he never backs down and never gives up, he just doesn't stand up for his mistake and keeps fighting to somehow make himself in the right.
Turns out he deleted that stream, he bans anybody asking about this topic in his streams too. Basically, anything not going in the scenario he wants things to go in, he uses everything in his power to prevent it. Such childish behavior bro.
That's not what happened though. Arcch said "Can you give me a challenge like one chest or shotgun only" and Nick said "I'm not going to make something up BUT if you TELL me what you want me to say I'll say it" and then Arcch proceeded to not tell him exactly what he wanted so Nick never did.
The literal second Nick said "Dude just tell me what to say" the ONLY thing Arcch should have said is "SAY ((the exact challenge he wants))", not "I already said it before" or "Say something LIKE one chest challenge".
If he just stopped being difficult and said what he wanted Nick never would have had a problem. The only problem is that Arcch was being difficult for no reason and Nick lost his patience with him.
i think Nick was trying to get him to use his imagination. Nick was having a bad day too
Nick was passive aggressive from THE FIRST dono. Like, why? Just give the dude a simple challenge.
I wouldn't be surprised if Nick Eh 30 had some of that hidden dark disgusting lore.
Bold guess
Your assuming this because he didn’t give a challenge for a Dono?
@@Drift-originalthis whole situation is really dumb
@@Sega_Saga Is eh-mazingly dumb, seriously 🤦♂ Anyone just says "I don't like this guy" and search for the dumbest reason to cancel them. Use your voices for something actually meaningful. Nick didn't scammed anyone, he was unpolite for the first time when Ninja and the rest have been rude 1 million times, you all just are using the "he fakes being nice" whenever someone is actually trying to be nice and fails. So stupid.
Bro should’ve took the hint and stopped donating after the first time. What else is there to say? It escalated because arch wasn’t clear in what he wanted and he kept asking the same thing. Just cause he’s giving money doesn’t excuse him for being annoying. And now arch is taking advantage of the drama. This is one of the dumbest “dramas” ever
More dumber and lame than the kris Tyson drama fr
the fact that a 19 yr old youtuber who isn't that famous and gets roughly 10K views is able to handle this more professionally than a 29 yr old multi millionaire who has more than a million subs is crazy, nick what happened to your kind attitude towards people man.
if Nick doesnt apologize or starts being nice to ppl again then he is cooked (its too late)
@@ronnayy121 This happened yesterday bruh how is it already too late💀
Nick has become too rude ever since he got his icon skin
He took the king thing too far
Why is Nick mad I'd be so happy if I got like 15 bucks
Me personally as a 19 year old teen like arch beefing with young adults at 29 goes insane
the milking is crazy
Scum eh30 is so toxic
Arcch should’ve just donated once so it’s kinda his fault too. It’s nicks fault too for not handling this better
right, and also people at this point are just making video's about the 'situation' for clout. because everyone can see that it is not that big of a deal. he's not a fking puppet who does what you want him to. it wasn't even a problem until Arcch made a video about it and it blew up. I am in no way a big nickeh30 fan, but this is just stupid
his fault for giving him extra money???? 😭😭😭😭
Nick is in the right here it isn't his fault. Want the proof?
@@SPAMMER_GYea what's the proof?
@Luco03325exactly this arcch guy obviously just wants some clout.
Most of the things you say is not right for examples like damann7778 said, he didn’t get answer even in his first donation, Nick eh 30 when he got the first donation, it was 2 options of challenges and Arcch also gave him ideas but Nick eh 30 didn’t really give a answer so he donated again and kept going until Nick eh 30 just banned him from donating
This is so dumb your favorite content creator don’t own you anything just because you throw money at them.
dude, this is so goddam overblown. He got irritated by ONE commenter and ignored a single persons Donos
And people are acting like he stole money from hundreds of child fans
Lol like is that not concerning to anyone else?! Arcch is actually farming
@SPAMMER_G i feel like Nick Eh 30 is just like, annoying more than harmful.
@@SPAMMER_GHow is he farming? All he wanted was for him to say a challenge.
I bet these are kids brain washed by them
@@ObliviousT1me Arcch spammed Nick to get anything worth controversy and failed to do this so he lied. I tried warning Arcch to take the video down and apologize but here we are
I like the fact that he’s so stupid he acts like oh you’re trying to make me look bad but you’re making yourself look bad by making a response of that caliber I’ve liked Nick Eh 30. He always came off to me as a snarky little punk.
Nick did everything he should of in response to Arcch. Arcch tried his hardest to build a senario where Nick Eh would look as bad as possible and Nick called him out on stream to all of his viewers. Nick just gave his viewers one of the most important pieces of advice he ever has. Please revaluate.
@@SPAMMER_G seems like watching too much nickeh30 is making you into a shitty person like him, too. yikes. i'd get better life advice if i were you
Bro's been getting flamed since last year
Crazy
Crazy, it's like people are on a wild goose chase finding something to ruin nick and it just isn't working. So weird wight?
@ I mean he was rude and scammed the guy who exposed him and the guy who exposed him was a huge fan
imagine Penguinz0 finds out about this....
Definitely going to reveal how wrong Arcch is lol.
"The Nick Eh 30 situation is insane"
1. Nick Eh 30 can low key be a bit defensive or even rude.
2. The guy sending donations was an adult with a channel, trolling Nick to get content. He literally got what he wanted. A ton of attention for his channel.
He kept sending little $2 donations over and over to piss Nick off. He's not entitled to an answer.
Nick eh 30 glazer over here
bros glazing a fraud, scammer, lier and child 💀🙏🏽
Oh nooo he sent him money how evil of him.😭🤣🤣
Glaze more bro
nick eh 30
im pissed i donated and he did not read it
Proof?
You got your facts all wrong you didn’t watch his video at all you got half of it right but all of it wrong
He shouldve came up with a video idea
*SAD NEWS EVERYONE IS A SCAMMER, EVEN YOUR JOB*
Yikes! That's so far from the truth! Try again please!
Did you ever watch the videos
Markiplier big pickaxe challenge
Nick Eh pushing 30
And raising the kids right
@@SPAMMER_Gyou are definitely nick on a burner
He did give him challenges, he put a shotgun only challenge and smnth else
Actually in his rdr2 stream he said he was a douche bag but he deleted that stream
I hope you know that arrch LITTERLY did say what challenge he wanted so maybe you should go watch the videos again because you are spreading a lot of misinformation. I know that this comes off a bit rude and I’m sorry for that but I support arrch and I think that if you are going to make a video like this you need to get your facts right
It's better to support the truth than a single person in relevance to a controversy. Getting your facts right like you said though is SUPER important. The more misinformation it spread, the harder it is to find the truth. That's why it's so important to back up claims.
True. He’s like Ali A but much worse. I don’t understand why he didn’t get canceled a long time ago
This "drama" is the definition of slop, the dude got a response to his first dono, kept donating, which is just a dumb move and he should've given Nick an idea, which Nick even said if he did he would say it so dude could include him in the video, or, get this, just move along. Instead he kept asking the same thing, and on top of it, called Nick a scammer? Dude knows what he's doing.
Arcch shouldve been more clear with his donos. Nickeh30 got upset too easily. Problem solved
You solved nothing lmao
It's not a good idea settle on half baked resolutions. When people do that, it leaves truths hidden and can cause some unnecessary damage.
@@TheKiddMonkey i didnt "solve" anything, i just explained what each person did wrong
@@windabrights oh okay
he is not a king but he is a king of scamming little timmys
Nope, not even close.
Bro if you donate to talk to streamers get help who the hell gives money to someone if they do shit like this. Don't give money to the wrong people and that's it
For real
Let's not make a an incorrect consensus like that. Please try again.
@@SPAMMER_G What do you mean? Bro the man saw Nick didn't gave a shit about his message, and his first thought is to donate to him 4 more times? That is just braindead and also being desperate☠️
@@MarianzYT Imma break this down for you
Video (Nick Eh 30 Scammed Me...) thumbnail (titles Nick as a "Fort Scammer")
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLIdh...
Let's look at all of his accusations/statements/reasoning/context
0:00 - Accusation 1: Nick has scammed Arcch (In the title of the video) (scamming isn't something to take Lightly)
0:09 - Accusation 2: Nick exploits his viewers for money (pretty scary title to give a person like Nick)
0:30 - Arcch is typing out a the only example of his dono chat he posts in the video(chat ends with "appreciate all you do man"
0:32 - Arcch says for 4 dollars, Nick would only need ten seconds to respond. This is a selfish standard to set for Nick as Nick has never provided this as a perk for donating to him
0:39 - When Nick reads the message, it isn't the same as the example previously given. !!!
0:40 - Nick tells Arcch what he is willing to do for his video idea. "If you have an idea, I'd more than likely be happy to say it" followed by Nick saying he doesn't have any ideas off the top of his head and say he'd be recording ideas if he had them" and proceeds to remind arrch that he'd be willing to "say" a video idea "if that's what you'd like" (This is the very first bit of context we ever get and seems to be to root of the accusations)
0:58 - Arrch calls this weird behavior rather than deciphering what Nick is trying to communicate here and pushes the idea that it's weird that nick didn't just give him a challenge (This is irrational reasoning and thus the root of a problem that never should've started)
1:20 - Arcch insists that Nick instead decide what out of two or more options he should use for a video (This is demanding behavior) (donation 2)
1:33 - Arcch said Nick proceeded to "flat out" ignore his second donation (This is something Nick is allowed to do) (No evidence provided, nick could have read it without saying it out loud, he could have skimmed through it without catching points. There just isn't enough evidence here)
1:46 - Donation 3: Arcch tries tells Nick that he missed his previous donation message. (Only one example shown on screen)
1:50 - After Arcch finishes explaining what he said in dono message three he states "and I specified which two challenges I would like him to him to give me as in his own words this was okay"
This is a lie as Nick never agreed to "give" him a challenge. This doesn't even match to the quote he puts on screen
1:58 - Arcch says Nick is lied when Nick said that he did read the donation
There isn't evidence of Nick not reading it so Arcch can't back this up
2:03 - Arcch has provided clips of Nick's responses
1. Nick says he answer Arcch's donation in full (He has conveyed that he won't be contributing video ideas to Arcch as much as he needed in response to Arcch's donation)
2. Nick calls Arcch out for not paying attention (this happened at the beginning of their back and forth) and that Arrch has had to be told three times. Nick then says again that he read through Arcch's message
2:17 - Arrch concludes that Nick "must have ignored it or just not read it and then just flat out lied to me" in regards to his "message" which is lacks true evidence as again Nick could have read it without saying it out loud, he could have skimmed through it without catching points, we just don't know.
2:28 - Nick addresses Arcch and gives him an offer
"if you have a challenge that you would like me to give you, you give it to me"
He has offered to give Arcch his own idea on stream after he's pushed him to give him what het wants
Nick then tells Arcch again that he wants Arcch to come up with his own ideas, he'll say Arcch idea, and that Arcch need to stop spamming.
The spamming in question: 3:32
3:00 - Arrch says that his came off a little rude and mentions the "like $8 or something" like it's a variable in the allegation"
This is deceitful as i'll get out
Arcch is taking Nick's tolerance for spamming and demanding attitude from himself as rude when Nick is clearly
trying to help Arcch on his own terms
3:11 - Arcch donates again after Nick has lost a rank game, has been taken advantage of, spammed and disrespected.
His response - "Arcch thank you"
3:25 - Arcch says that he doesn't understand "what's hurt this man's feelings"
Let's reevaluate
Nick said "Arcch thank you"
And Arcch said "what's hurt this man's feelings"
3:28 - Arcch says that it's weird that Nick's response led to Arcch spending more and more money
There are so many things wrong with this as well
1. This was Arcch's decision to make
2. This was a lie, he should have said "These events occurred in this sequence" as this was not a cause and effect
rather a subtle argument to Nick being the root cause of Arcch's spending habits
This is how much money in donations Arcch has donated adding by message sent for further evaluation
0:25: +4
1:20: +2
1:46: +2
3:09: +2
3:32 +2 +2 +2 +2 +2 +3
I count $23 dollars and 10 total donations
3:34 - Arcch claims that all of the donations thus far were polite
3:40 - Arcch claims that Nick didn't have respect for him
3:45 - Arcch claims to have sent another donation before getting banned from donations ($23+ and 11 donations)
3:53 - this whole accusation (The context is a video of Nick doing absolutely nothing to prove this, this was definitely ill intent)
From there on, Arcch continues to lie and make false claims as previously hinted to and or stated
Got questions mate?
@@SPAMMER_G Holy moly I read all that and you nailed it brother. You need to make a video covering all these points for people that don't like to read. Arch is way off base with this one and you can see his creepy little fingers grasping for any straws he can get. He even says in his second video that the reason why he made the first was to "warn parents" about Nick's behavior, but he doesn't mention that AT ALL in the first video either, so you can tell he's being deceptive and switching up his narrative in real time.
Hey Tyler I think my story needs to be told aswell I remember meeting Nick in 2016 & he’s not the same person. I made a whole song for him spent weeks working on it 😕 the song is pretty good I donated over $100 to him trying to get his attention so he can recognize the song he read the comments and completely ignored them all. For that same week I kept trying each day the same thing would happen until he finally banned me so I practically wasted all that money 💴 & he didn’t even care to look at the song. I really need my story to be told can you please help me? Tyler
Hey bud, sorry that happened to you, but you should realize that a donation is not a payment and Nick is under no obligation to you because you donated. You can't buy his time or attention and you can't buy your own exposure on his name. I hope you've learned from this experience that if the first or second "donation" don't click you should quickly realize that it's not going to happen. You're right that you did waste that money because you wanted it to get his attention and it didn't which isn't what a DONATION is for. I hope you're doing well now bud.
@ thanks 🙏 man I appreciate you doing u mind following my page? I would really appreciate it
bro I saw nick and fraud in the same sentence and clicked😂
"He donated 3 times, and he got the answer in the first 1." Well, not really. Nick told him that he could tell him a challenge, and he would repeat it for the video. Arch donated again and gave him 2 examples that he could have given him, but Nick ignored him and lied about responding.
Giving "two examples" isn't telling Nick what to say though. It's still making Nick choose. Arch should have just said something extremely specific once and got it over with. Nick didn't want to be put on the spot to come up with an idea. Saying "Say something like one chest challenge" is not the same thing as saying "Say one chest challenge".
@@dijonmustard1970 It's still disappointing for Arcch to donate so much money just for Nick to lie and not even be able to think of a simple challenge.
@@SMLTheoryReuploaded "Disappointing".... It's called a donation, not a payment. Arch was lucky Nick even interacted with the first one, he has no obligation to. You can't pay people to do things for you, its not what Superchats or Donations are for. Nick never lied because he said he WOULD say WHAT Arch wanted him to and Arch never said what he wanted. It's so black and white its so mind boggling people can't understand that.
For short:
Arcch got NOT scammed!
This is just an artificial drama, after 2 person misunderstood each other and their role in the world of live streaming and content creation.
Both are faulty, with their behavior!
99,99% of "BIG" streamers/content creators, do same like NickEH30 did, if they get donations like those!
He is fraud, because he lost his family friendly persona and still try to act like, he still is, BUT not scammer! I'm not a doctor, but I think Nick may have mental health problems (like lot of streamers have), which were developed for years now. That is why he is egoistic and he may have narcissistic personality disorder.
NickEH30 needs HELP from a from a mental hygiene specialist and NOT to roast and harass him!!!
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If you want more to read about it, this is how I think commented this incident under some videos »
TLDR;
1. Arcch - "Nick Eh 30 Scams His Viewers..."
My comment:
Judging streamers and content creators is a hard topic!
@DesignedAssassin , I watched the stream live too. he was very tired.
@ArcchPlays If you watch the whole stream again, then you will see that how exhausted he was. Just count how many times he tried to stretch his back and neck.
If you want to make an "NickEH30 exposed" video and get view boosted by that, than I can give you an Idea:
- Make a video about him, how he changed over the years, for the worse. From 2017 to 2024. It is shocking, how he got sold for views and money.
He is rushing all the time in his games to "make content" by trying out-skill opponents and whining, complaining all the time now if he get eliminated by someone or he mess things up in the rush. Most of the fights he easily can win, if he not rush and just think a bit, like he did in an OG mode match.
Poor SanchoWest. He get left behind a lot of times and Nick just not care. At least some times, when a new season get released, when everything is new for Nick as well, then the friendship from still Nick shining a little. There is a bit hope left. Nick not completely lost in the cruel world of streaming and content creation.
(Btw he is not the only one, who has changed for the worse. SypherPK, CouRageJD do the same. How many times Jack comes up with viewer counts and likes, shares, etc.)
The kind, honest, genuine NickEH30 is sadly long gone.
I think these are NOT family friendly:
- Making clickbait thumbnails (this is blatant liing)
- After downing an enemy, he goes there and crouch on their heads and make fart noises.
- Asking the mods to blow up houses (this is not funny and not consider a joke, as he intended)
- Using the word "crap" and pretend that is not equal to "sh!t", "turd", etc. What words are acceptable and what aren't?
- Backing up from the chair and slapping his butt front of the camera is not family friendly either
- etc.
You can made a 24 or even 100 hours video from him not being as a "nice guy".
But you can not deny, he is working hard to earn a lot of money, even he is a fraud now with this fake family friendly persona he developed. I hope the "younger Nick" is there somewhere and one day he returns.
ps.: Another Idea (about how egoistic he is):
- Which streamer has 1000s of outfits and only using ONE
- Who name every locker set from his creator code
pps.: I think the world is still better place with the streamer NIckEH30, than with MD. Nicholas Amyoony. Sadly I met a lot of doctors, with this kind of ego, who needed to get begged, prayed for days to help out in difficult cases, which he did at least, with only 1 telephone call in the end. It was very easy to do, but they had to be treated as if they were a god.
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2. Arcch - "Nick Eh 30 is a LIAR..."
and 3. Firegamer V2 - "The Truth Behind Nick Eh 30's Controversy.."
My comments:
Arcch got NOT scammed!
This is just an artificial drama, after 2 person misunderstood each other and their role in the world of live streaming and content creation.
Both are faulty, with their behavior!
99,99% of "BIG" streamers/content creators, do same like NickEH30 did, if they get donations like those!
He is fraud, because he lost his family friendly persona and still try to act like, he still is, BUT not scammer!
Arcch was NOT be scammed in any meaning of the word!
If Arcch will have luck and he achieve the same success as they, then he will do the same as well. This is how this job works.
TLDR;
Explanation about the situation, from a 3rd perspective (I am not on either of the sides):
I see Arcch was not read comments, which are not on his side.
Under that popular video, there are many comment about "that specific stream of his", which tell you that, what Nick said as well.
I wrote it too. I write it again: Nick was very exhausted, physically and mentally alike (watch the stream again, if anyone need it...Arcch said, in that most viewed video, that he watched it multiple times...and look at his posture, the back and neck stretches, and listen what he say about his day), after he worked 12+ hours in his business (video editing, e-mails, etc.).
And when someone feels himself so tired, they may NOT understand a poorly worded donation message, then he not to be blamed about it. Next time the message, maybe need to be written more clear, what man want to ask from him.
And to make it clear:
If someone is donating to anybody, anywhere, then that is a DONATION and NOT buying (in this example, a service from NIckEH30) !!!
Everyone, please just understand the meaning of the word: donation. It will help a lot. Thanks!
THERE IS NO GARANTEE anywhere in UA-cam or Twitch Term of Service, for the thing, what Arcch asked for. The streamer/content creator is CAN NOT BE FORCED to do a service for the donation from viewers!
Man is just a viewer, watch and listen to a FREE broadcast. That is all! Subscriptions can be bought and give the subscriber will get some kind of service for that, which man can read about.
Donations are NOT subscriptions!
Donation is: giving something to someone, WITHOUT getting something from them.
I hope everyone, who read this comment, understand the meaning of the word: "donation".
This is my last comment about this, because it is just "inflated balloon", which can burst any minute now and will be gone and forgotten, in the history of NickEh30 and Arcch.
...Or they will sue each other and Nick will win, because he did nothing against the TOS.
Either way, Arcch will learn the meanings of some words and Nick will learn to NOT read these kind of forced, pushed donations loudly, because some people will exploit it to their benefit.
I hope both sides will draw the conclusion, from this incident:
Do NOT rush always, with your actions and think before acting!
Thanks for read all of this 3rd person perspective!
I hope you all, all the best for the new year! Bye!
yap god
@@dilchipzsaying "yap" in 2025 is crazy
Brother, you gonna need to condense the TLDR portion of your reply because holy hell that wasn’t even a TLDR, it was a yap, but like an actual yap.
That was a “Yap Lite Edition” kind of yap.
I AM NOT READING ALL THAT
Nick is NOT in the wrong here. He is NOT obligated to respond to a donation with anything but a "thank you." Arcch was just trying to create drama to gain attention and clout. Nick was a perfect target since he's a huge creator that isn't already without his controversies, so Arcch knew there was an audience for a video on the beef.
Arcch Wasnt trying to make drama he tried to make a video like:Doing Fortnite youtubers Challenge
Yep, and unfortunately this is an ongoing trend all over the internet
@Vingle1233 No he was.
He wasn't trying to create drama for clout Arcch literally said in his video he doesn't take UA-cam serious which makes sense as his upload schedule is practically non existent and he doesn't make money off of it which he proved in his video so that argument about him doing it for clout doesn't make much sense.
@xxspeedyxx If he doesn't take youtube seriously then why should we take his youtube posts/videos seriously?
archh did show that he is not monetized and showed the video analytics
great video, surprised you are not at more than 10k subs
Imma give a little feedback, dont say constantly "I think this drama is stupid" or "I dont care" etc. It makes things seem MUCH more neglectful and only done out of obligation, nothing against you just worth keeping in mind.
My actual response: While yes Arrch should have stopped, I dont see where poking at Nickeh30 would be a good video? Also Arrch had shown he made NOTHING off the videos. It seems odd to claim clout and/or profit when there is no profit. Nickeh30 also responded in a poor manner, I have been annoyed before I get nick has stress whatever but responding with "Hes a douchebag he's a scumbag etc" is just not cool 90% of the time. I get stressed sometimes, yet I try to keep a temper. Nick is an influence for children, this isnt proper nor good for children to be seeing/hearing. I am willing to hear your side/discuss this more if you see this and respond.
I'd argue that Nick actually protected his younger viewers and was a good influence in this situation. Not only did he call out someone spreading misinformation online, he made the general consensus that the video wasn't worth his time while leaving the impression that his younger viewers shouldn't be doing this either.
@SPAMMER_G what Nick did was make a misunderstanding worse. Instead of saying "Oh my bad I messed up heres a challenge" he responded in an immature manner. Using scumbag and douchebag is once again, not great and speculating why someone made a video but not giving sound reasoning is worse. Arcch provided proof he made barely anything. What Nick did was respond in an immature manner and turned a lot of people against him
12:12 btw he called him a scumbag and a d-bag I’m serious
Tyler thats not disrespectful hes speaking to em what is disrespectful is demanding some one do something when u gave them 4 dollars chill
You know. I would never watch a single second of Nickeh30. But this Arrch guy just seems like he is trying his hardest to be relevant. You can’t sit here and say that Nick is a scammer with the most click baity thumbnail you can have. When YOU are the one donating five times. Nick didn’t force you at all. He never saw your second donation. So that’s the reason he got really annoyed.
Yes it would’ve been really easy to just come up with a challenge idea in a few seconds. But maybe he had a lot of stuff on his mind. And he wasn’t thinking straight. Who knows. All I know is that this Arrch guy seems very entitled. And Nick didn’t address the video properly. That simple.
Couldn’t have said it better
What is the name of the creative map in the background?
I really don't watch Nicks streams, but he looks very hipocrite.
He's not
Hey to everyone who thinks nick scams/exploits kids for money, I challenge you to look through every video and fin the evidence. Every video I've seen covering this issue so far goes over Arcch's video in which he stretches the truth and makes false allegations and lies to make his case. I'm going to post the same message I have on every video I've seen in both the comments and the reply to the video of each creator going over this subject.
Here is an evaluation of Arcch's video
Video (Nick Eh 30 Scammed Me...) thumbnail (titles Nick as a "Fort Scammer")
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLIdh...
Let's look at all of his accusations/statements/reasoning/context
0:00 - Accusation 1: Nick has scammed Arcch (In the title of the video) (scamming isn't something to take Lightly)
0:09 - Accusation 2: Nick exploits his viewers for money (pretty scary title to give a person like Nick)
0:30 - Arcch is typing out a the only example of his dono chat he posts in the video(chat ends with "appreciate all you do man"
0:32 - Arcch says for 4 dollars, Nick would only need ten seconds to respond. This is a selfish standard to set for Nick as Nick has never provided this as a perk for donating to him
0:39 - When Nick reads the message, it isn't the same as the example previously given. !!!
0:40 - Nick tells Arcch what he is willing to do for his video idea. "If you have an idea, I'd more than likely be happy to say it" followed by Nick saying he doesn't have any ideas off the top of his head and say he'd be recording ideas if he had them" and proceeds to remind arrch that he'd be willing to "say" a video idea "if that's what you'd like" (This is the very first bit of context we ever get and seems to be to root of the accusations)
0:58 - Arrch calls this weird behavior rather than deciphering what Nick is trying to communicate here and pushes the idea that it's weird that nick didn't just give him a challenge (This is irrational reasoning and thus the root of a problem that never should've started)
1:20 - Arcch insists that Nick instead decide what out of two or more options he should use for a video (This is demanding behavior) (donation 2)
1:33 - Arcch said Nick proceeded to "flat out" ignore his second donation (This is something Nick is allowed to do) (No evidence provided, nick could have read it without saying it out loud, he could have skimmed through it without catching points. There just isn't enough evidence here)
1:46 - Donation 3: Arcch tries tells Nick that he missed his previous donation message. (Only one example shown on screen)
1:50 - After Arcch finishes explaining what he said in dono message three he states "and I specified which two challenges I would like him to him to give me as in his own words this was okay"
This is a lie as Nick never agreed to "give" him a challenge. This doesn't even match to the quote he puts on screen
1:58 - Arcch says Nick is lied when Nick said that he did read the donation
There isn't evidence of Nick not reading it so Arcch can't back this up
2:03 - Arcch has provided clips of Nick's responses
1. Nick says he answer Arcch's donation in full (He has conveyed that he won't be contributing video ideas to Arcch as much as he needed in response to Arcch's donation)
2. Nick calls Arcch out for not paying attention (this happened at the beginning of their back and forth) and that Arrch has had to be told three times. Nick then says again that he read through Arcch's message
2:17 - Arrch concludes that Nick "must have ignored it or just not read it and then just flat out lied to me" in regards to his "message" which is lacks true evidence as again Nick could have read it without saying it out loud, he could have skimmed through it without catching points, we just don't know.
2:28 - Nick addresses Arcch and gives him an offer
"if you have a challenge that you would like me to give you, you give it to me"
He has offered to give Arcch his own idea on stream after he's pushed him to give him what het wants
Nick then tells Arcch again that he wants Arcch to come up with his own ideas, he'll say Arcch idea, and that Arcch need to stop spamming.
The spamming in question: 3:32
3:00 - Arrch says that his came off a little rude and mentions the "like $8 or something" like it's a variable in the allegation"
This is deceitful as i'll get out
Arcch is taking Nick's tolerance for spamming and demanding attitude from himself as rude when Nick is clearly
trying to help Arcch on his own terms
3:11 - Arcch donates again after Nick has lost a rank game, has been taken advantage of, spammed and disrespected.
His response - "Arcch thank you"
3:25 - Arcch says that he doesn't understand "what's hurt this man's feelings"
Let's reevaluate
Nick said "Arcch thank you"
And Arcch said "what's hurt this man's feelings"
3:28 - Arcch says that it's weird that Nick's response led to Arcch spending more and more money
There are so many things wrong with this as well
1. This was Arcch's decision to make
2. This was a lie, he should have said "These events occurred in this sequence" as this was not a cause and effect
rather a subtle argument to Nick being the root cause of Arcch's spending habits
This is how much money in donations Arcch has donated adding by message sent for further evaluation
0:25: +4
1:20: +2
1:46: +2
3:09: +2
3:32 +2 +2 +2 +2 +2 +3
I count $23 dollars and 10 total donations
3:34 - Arcch claims that all of the donations thus far were polite
3:40 - Arcch claims that Nick didn't have respect for him
3:45 - Arcch claims to have sent another donation before getting banned from donations ($23+ and 11 donations)
3:53 - this whole accusation (The context is a video of Nick doing absolutely nothing to prove this, this was definitely ill intent)
From there on, Arcch continues to lie and make false claims as previously hinted to and or stated
Guys, please don't believe everything you see on the internet. Question everything, and confirm that you've found the truth. Don't even take my word for it. Spammer out.
What grade did you get on this essay?
@@hiiiiiiiiiii8--0 I got accepted into Harvard with this essay! ☺☺
5:26 ferran from the royalty family on the leaderboard?🤨
I knew something was always off about him
more like you thought
Is it that hard for people to not do bad things i swear everyday i see these well known content creators or celebrities only for them to be a horrible person or a pedifile and it's on a daily basis
Arcch is literally just trying to give nick a bad picture of what he’s actually like. You can’t tell me arcch is genuine when he used the most click bait thumbnail then after his suspicions success now streams daily
@PikeletTech nick is the one trying to give Arcch a bad picture saying that he was rude in his donations when he was not.
@bendi9907 Yeah true but I really think Arcch is making it out to be way more deep than it actually is. I don’t watch nick but he probably just caught him after a bad loss or something and it’s not like he’s entitled to do anything just because a dono.
@PikeletTech but he is though because nick said if you have a challenge idea and you want me to say it I can...but he didn't so actually he did owe Arch something and said that he would do it.
But then lied about saying the challenge also nick called arch scum and is trying to make his kid fan base attack arch.
I mean technically you could call it a scam depending on if nick wanted more money so instead of saying a challenge idea he said tell me one and I’ll say it thus engaging another donation and then he didn’t respond thus having another donation coming through and giving him more money. Not saying that’s what he was trying to do but if it was it kinda is genius and bad because that would make it a scam
This isn’t the best breakdown you need to get the full story. pls if I would’ve saw this before I saw Arcchs video I would’ve sided with Nick eh 30.
Archh did say the challenge in the dono
Nick never said he'd pick a donation from preset options
No he didn't, he gave Nick two examples as in "something LIKE one chest challenge". Nick said he didn't want to have to think of something but he would just parrot if Arch wrote it, and Arch never wrote it he just started being passive aggressive.
Saying "give me something like chocolate" is different than saying "give me chocolate". Arch NEVER said what he specifically wanted which is all Nick asked for.
I despise nick eh 30 a lot now even before he cannot take a joke correctly even if someone is trolling him, I've seen some of his content before dudes not even that funny as well. Bros about to be 30 years old soon and he's acting like this as well makes me sick to my stomach. but I feel like now he's gone too far now, and he needs to change
That's a very unfair thing to say about Nick. He just called out misinformation and rightfully so. The reason Nick is getting so much hate is because he keeps people who spread misinformation online from taking advantage of people. Please revaluate.
Nick swears several times an his mask slips off, yet people let it slide. His actions are extreme an have easy solutions he never uses, people let it slide. His content is repetitive an uncreative, people let it slide...say ANYTHING about it an the people will crucify you. Some people...are sheep, that is your public service announcement have a good day.
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Yikes, that's a lot of misinformation! Please try to make truthful statements if you want to be taken seriously.
Nick eh stealing kids 30 dollars be acting like a five year old
This video you made a super misleading and it's painting arch in the wrong in a lot of ways Please reconsider and watch the video again
I feel like nick should of been more gentle on the situation and for him to call arch slurs was way out of line when he could of just gave him a challenge like nick said he was going to then all of sudden just back out from what he said he was going to do is kinda is a let down u can’t say your going to do something then just back out from it
I just watched the video and I think mick is acting entitled a bit. He knows that archer is like a kid and I feel bad as a 27 yo seeing that. I could never treat a kid with good intentions like that. I feel like he was having a bad day and took it out in a weird way. If he’s not in a good mood don’t get in stream. He could have said literally anything for a challenge. It’s not that hard. Especially as a UA-camr he could have named a challenge he already did or something silly. He even said he would say it for his video if that’s what he wanted but he wouldn’t just be a team player and give a silly idea. Weird.
He changed when he got an icon skin now he’s highly overrated
OMG this guy is a glazer
1. Nick Eh 30 isn’t technically obligated to even read the donations 2. He didn’t lie about responding he gave his response 3. You are picking at breadcrumbs
bros glazing
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Glazing nick eh 30 is crazy
@@hermesthegr8759 I’m not even glazing I don’t really like him at all but to call someone a scammer when you deliberately decided to keep donating after he starting ignoring you is stupid.
Yo you actually getting hella views good shit.From Logan Paul
I love nick eh 30
12:02 1 eff you isn’t a slur 2 he was swearing kinda 3 slurs? Slurs n word f word 4 let’s not water down slurs saying something a slur when it isn’t
all over 2 dolla dolla
Nick is done and hope they remove his ICON skin.
Get your facts straight like arcch gave him 2 ideas and you didn’t mention that even though that is very important to note so when making a video like that don’t leave out important parts
Trying to cancel Nick over this is crazy yall need to stop clout chasing. What little bros trying to do is get Nicks viewers that hes grinded and worked for all on his own to go over and watch his challenge video that Nick suggested. Its a cheap way of trying to promote ur channel/video off another big content creator
Nick agreed to give him a challenge if he gave him the options. Nick could have said no but instead he decided that it was a good idea to lie and act like nothing happened.
u realize mutiple kids nick eh 30 has done it to it its to make a video so that nick eh 30 doesnt do this anymore
lmao
From your video Arch is 100% in the wrong. Like seriously, don’t go on a big time streamer’s stream and pay them money for a video idea. Nickeh30 is under no obligation to help him.
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buddy nicks the goat you should prob just keep your mouth closed womp womp
The glaze is crazy 😂
For real little kids be glazing nick so much
someone big like CourageJD needs to talk to nickeh30.
Someone like a therapist needs to talk to Arcch
@@SPAMMER_G why?
Just wanna let you know that I'm keeping screen shots of all the messages you delete including those on other channels and will be making a response video after having all my comments deleted. This is SPAMMER_G out.