@@cornishcarcollectors I have a friend who is now selling an E39 M5. He wants to exchange it for a newer M model. He found a pre-redesign 2008 E90 M3. He gave up the E60 M5 because it is unreliable. Do you think the E90 M3 with a manual transmission would be a good replacement for the E39 M5?
Thanks for the comment. I've made a video of the MG... just need to edit it. It is a video with a bit of a difference so I hope you enjoy it. Thanks for continued support and for watching.
Lol, I can't believe you'd take the RS over the M3🤣, the only reason I can think why is for practical reasons, the RS is cheaper to run 😛 That aside, I prefer the coupe version (so that's the one I bought), the saloon version just looks a bit too ordinary at the back to me, but each to their own. Anyway, interesting video, pity you didn't take the engine to 8k though in the video!😉 Oh btw the 0-60 for the DCT version is about 4.4s, 4.6s is for 0-100 kph.........those 0.2s count!😁
Thanks for the comment - I hope you enjoyed the video. I very much like the M3, but it's fast Fords all the way for me and I do feel there's more drama in the Focus RS than in the M3, albeit the M3 is fasted once up in the revs. Thanks for watching.
Have you ever driven a Vauxhall vxr8 ls3, a beautiful car, my dream car. Now that hsv don’t exist they are going up in price, £30k for a mint 2009 ls3 nowadays.👍
Thanks for the comment. I have actually driven a VXR8 on a track for a couple of laps - it is brilliant. I own an MG ZT260 V8 which is often compared with the Monaro and VXR8; however, I found the Vauxhall to absolutely dwarf the power of the MG. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the comment. Having briefly had this E90 M3 I can understand why you'd want one, albeit they are a little dear to run. Hope you get an M3 one day. Thanks for watching.
Run it as a 2nd car, keep the miles low, less money spent on fuel, tyres, servicing and better for resale value, SORN it in the winter to keep it clean and save from some of the ridiculous cost of the road tax (now nearly £700 for 1yr!!😱 ). Just drive it for the fun drives and not for commuting where you can't really enjoy it anyway! Once you get past the 1st years steep insurance cost (unless you already have a 2nd car), then the cost drops off a lot with 1st yrs NCB. That's what I did anyway, I don't know if that strategy would bring it within reach of you, but food for thought for you. That said, when I bought mine at the end of 2019 it cost me £14.7k (fairly typical at the time), now it would be £18-20k
You can hear "cowbell clunk" at 12:30 when car starts moving, it's worn out drive shaft with support bearing, needs to be repaired because c'mon man it's M!
You're allowed to make mistakes, a RS above a M3... You must be British😉 Btw., I prefer the sedan, DCT and about the rod bearings, just adhere to the warm-up period and you won't have any issues.
Thanks for the comment and yes, I am guilty of choosing the RS over the M3... it is a heart over head choice! 🤣 Thanks for the advice and for watching, I appreciate it.
Wrong on the last point (to some degree), the clearances on some engines weren't enough, so even if you warm it up properly you can still have excessively worn bearings on many engines. Of course not warming it up will accelerate wear! Agreed about the RS vs M3 comment though, I literally said wtf when he said that 😉 lol, and I am a Brit.
As I owned some 12 BMWs and still do own 4 M3s (E30, E36, E46, E90) I heard this story about rod bearings for decades (also for the other engines). However, none of them ever failed. I came across too many salesman trying to sell me their labor hours. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist though, but you have to "do your best" to ruin them. Greetz from a Frisian American!
Thanks for the comment and for sharing your thoughts. I do think the E46 is a better looking M3 than the E90 - the E46 is possibly the prettiest of all 3-Series, albeit people may argue the E30. As for drive and performance though, the E90 pips it for me. Thanks for watching.
The E90 M3 was a dud. There is a reason it is the only 8 cylinder M3. BMW learned very quickly the POWER and future revenues were in the N54. Hence, it built up from it for the future M cars. As a matter of fact, the M3 was such a disaster on the M badge reputation, that BMW had to come up with a M1 car with a N54 boosted up, to draw in and prepare BMW enthusiasts for the getting rid of the 8 cylinder moving forward. Great strategy it was. All M engines now have the building blocks of power the N54 established as the elements for an M car. I own a Z4 and a 335xi 6MT N54. Both are Stock, No mods whatsoever, the cars really don't need them. They are phenomenal as they are. I daily drive them. The weather decides which one comes out of the garage. :) .
Boosted cars are junk, a high revving beast like the E90 is much more fun to drive. Having owned both I would go for the S65 engine every time, it was engine of the year for 5 years in a row for damn good reason. Plus an M car needs its own engine S designation or it is not a true M car. The N54 is used in many models because it's a mass produced engine.
Thanks for the comment, albeit I cannot agree that the E90 M3 was a dud... I believe time and values will show the only 8-cylinder M3 ever to be built will go on to become a true (and valuable) modern classic. It may not be the quickest of the M3s, but unique and pioneering cars find a following and the E90 certainly has that. Thanks for watching.
A dud? A disaster? What on earth do you base that on? What absolute rubbish! lol Was it very expensive for BMW to build engines especially for M cars, and therefore make them less profitable? Most probably! Do they use lots of fuel? Yep! But the high revving snappy response and amazing sound added to the M badge rep 😛 So those downsides combined with the general push for better MPG and CO2 emissions was the reason they went to S55, oh and I'm sure the fact it's much easier to have various levels of power with a turbo engine was a significant factor too.
@@Omegaman1969 ALL M cars after the E90 M3 has S engines that are directly derived from the N54. - Learn your BMW engine history bro! They all are supped up N54
@@cornishcarcollectors Hi. most cars that have a one in a lifetime out of the norm production difference gain value, but that only matters to collectors and those who look at cars as investments. The rest of us who enjoy the cars for a while and then move to the next driving experience, don't really spend time on that. Racers like me, just drive them, enjoy the thrill and then move on.
Great video, the E90 M3 still remains one of my top 10 dream cars
Thanks for the comment. These E90s are very special indeed and worthy of being on your 'dream car' list. 👍
Thanks for watching.
An attainable dream car
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I have a friend who is now selling an E39 M5. He wants to exchange it for a newer M model. He found a pre-redesign 2008 E90 M3. He gave up the E60 M5 because it is unreliable. Do you think the E90 M3 with a manual transmission would be a good replacement for the E39 M5?
@@mislavkonjik2827hell yea it would, e39 and e92 both have those wonderful v8’s but the e92’s handling is amazing
Great video, Best m3 bmw ever made
The later car is better and with a manual gearbox.
@@kristianspencer1978 jokes
Thanks for the comment, great to know you enjoyed the video.
@@kristianspencer1978 Other than speed, why do you think the later (F80 I assume?) is better?
@@Assimilator1 I meant the face lift car.
Stunning car & another great review. I couldn’t help but smile when hearing it rev. Definitely grabs me every time!
Thanks for the comment Dave... glad you enjoyed the video. 👍
Great video! And definitely a future classic.
Bonus points for pointing out the E46 M3 GTR being the first V8 M3 🧐👌🏻
Thanks for the comment, great to know your thoughts on the video... and the M3! Thanks for watching and for the bonus point! 😉👍
🤣 everyone likes bonus points.
It is definitely the best car I have ever driven/owned. The 4 door E90 looks so much better than the hairdressers version E92
Such a cool car this M3 V8. Looking forward to the ZT V8 and future ZS V6 videos.
Thanks for the comment. I've made a video of the MG... just need to edit it. It is a video with a bit of a difference so I hope you enjoy it. Thanks for continued support and for watching.
Excellent review - Thanks.
Thanks very much for the comment and glad you enjoyed the video.
Ordered my 2013 comp ZCP to spec & it’s all smiles from there ever since ///M3 E92 😊
Thanks for the comment. You certainly picked a nice spec. Thanks for watching.
just gorgeous ... the car that is ...
Thanks for the comment Adrian and really pleased you like the car... it is fabulous! Thanks for watching and for the support.
Lol, I can't believe you'd take the RS over the M3🤣, the only reason I can think why is for practical reasons, the RS is cheaper to run 😛
That aside, I prefer the coupe version (so that's the one I bought), the saloon version just looks a bit too ordinary at the back to me, but each to their own.
Anyway, interesting video, pity you didn't take the engine to 8k though in the video!😉
Oh btw the 0-60 for the DCT version is about 4.4s, 4.6s is for 0-100 kph.........those 0.2s count!😁
Thanks for the comment - I hope you enjoyed the video.
I very much like the M3, but it's fast Fords all the way for me and I do feel there's more drama in the Focus RS than in the M3, albeit the M3 is fasted once up in the revs.
Thanks for watching.
Good vid’. Cheers.
Thanks for the comment - great to know you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
Own a manual e90 m3 🤪
"The Ultimate Driving Machine"
Does anyone know how many manuals were made in the e90?????
Thanks for the comment. The manual is certainly rare… no idea how many were made. Thanks for watching, enjoy your E90.
According to M3cutters 'The Answer to the E9x M3, the Universe and Everything', 308 in the UK .
Have you ever driven a Vauxhall vxr8 ls3, a beautiful car, my dream car. Now that hsv don’t exist they are going up in price, £30k for a mint 2009 ls3 nowadays.👍
Thanks for the comment. I have actually driven a VXR8 on a track for a couple of laps - it is brilliant. I own an MG ZT260 V8 which is often compared with the Monaro and VXR8; however, I found the Vauxhall to absolutely dwarf the power of the MG. Thanks for watching.
@@cornishcarcollectors 👍
I wish my dream car but way out of my reach to buy and run
Thanks for the comment. Having briefly had this E90 M3 I can understand why you'd want one, albeit they are a little dear to run. Hope you get an M3 one day. Thanks for watching.
Run it as a 2nd car, keep the miles low, less money spent on fuel, tyres, servicing and better for resale value, SORN it in the winter to keep it clean and save from some of the ridiculous cost of the road tax (now nearly £700 for 1yr!!😱 ). Just drive it for the fun drives and not for commuting where you can't really enjoy it anyway!
Once you get past the 1st years steep insurance cost (unless you already have a 2nd car), then the cost drops off a lot with 1st yrs NCB.
That's what I did anyway, I don't know if that strategy would bring it within reach of you, but food for thought for you.
That said, when I bought mine at the end of 2019 it cost me £14.7k (fairly typical at the time), now it would be £18-20k
You can hear "cowbell clunk" at 12:30 when car starts moving, it's worn out drive shaft with support bearing, needs to be repaired because c'mon man it's M!
Thanks for the comment and advice, I appreciate you taking the time to watch.
Don't you mean the prop shaft? Or does the US call propshafts driveshafts?
@@Assimilator1yea basically
I cant understand why anyone would want to adjust the damping either 😂
Ha! Thanks for the comment.
I appreciate you taking the time to watch.
the audio is actually the base model, such a shame. They cheaped out on heated seats and audio as far as i have seen
Thanks for the comment and for watching.
Everyone who has an M3 says their version is the best.
Thanks for the comment Mark. I suppose you are correct, but having had three BMW M3s... I'd take the Focus RS every time! 🤣
Thanks for watching.
@@cornishcarcollectors I've got two, an F80 and E36 and I love the E36 as its so light and nimble as its been sorted out. Great video's 👍
@@cornishcarcollectors Lmao, why??
E39 M5 had V8
Thanks for the comment. The E39 M5 did indeed have the V8, with the E90 range being the only mass-produced M3 ever to have a V8. Thanks for watching.
You're allowed to make mistakes, a RS above a M3... You must be British😉 Btw., I prefer the sedan, DCT and about the rod bearings, just adhere to the warm-up period and you won't have any issues.
Thanks for the comment and yes, I am guilty of choosing the RS over the M3... it is a heart over head choice! 🤣
Thanks for the advice and for watching, I appreciate it.
Wrong on the last point (to some degree), the clearances on some engines weren't enough, so even if you warm it up properly you can still have excessively worn bearings on many engines. Of course not warming it up will accelerate wear!
Agreed about the RS vs M3 comment though, I literally said wtf when he said that 😉 lol, and I am a Brit.
As I owned some 12 BMWs and still do own 4 M3s (E30, E36, E46, E90) I heard this story about rod bearings for decades (also for the other engines). However, none of them ever failed. I came across too many salesman trying to sell me their labor hours. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist though, but you have to "do your best" to ruin them. Greetz from a Frisian American!
i have to disagree, the e46 m3 was the best m3 ever, i am biased, having owned one for 2 years
Thanks for the comment and for sharing your thoughts. I do think the E46 is a better looking M3 than the E90 - the E46 is possibly the prettiest of all 3-Series, albeit people may argue the E30. As for drive and performance though, the E90 pips it for me. Thanks for watching.
@@cornishcarcollectors the e90 is more powerful, i think i prefer the e46 because it is more 'raw'!
@@brianpreval5602drive an E92 for more than a day and you’ll change your mind
The E90 M3 was a dud. There is a reason it is the only 8 cylinder M3. BMW learned very quickly the POWER and future revenues were in the N54. Hence, it built up from it for the future M cars. As a matter of fact, the M3 was such a disaster on the M badge reputation, that BMW had to come up with a M1 car with a N54 boosted up, to draw in and prepare BMW enthusiasts for the getting rid of the 8 cylinder moving forward. Great strategy it was. All M engines now have the building blocks of power the N54 established as the elements for an M car. I own a Z4 and a 335xi 6MT N54. Both are Stock, No mods whatsoever, the cars really don't need them. They are phenomenal as they are. I daily drive them. The weather decides which one comes out of the garage. :) .
Boosted cars are junk, a high revving beast like the E90 is much more fun to drive. Having owned both I would go for the S65 engine every time, it was engine of the year for 5 years in a row for damn good reason. Plus an M car needs its own engine S designation or it is not a true M car. The N54 is used in many models because it's a mass produced engine.
Thanks for the comment, albeit I cannot agree that the E90 M3 was a dud... I believe time and values will show the only 8-cylinder M3 ever to be built will go on to become a true (and valuable) modern classic. It may not be the quickest of the M3s, but unique and pioneering cars find a following and the E90 certainly has that. Thanks for watching.
A dud? A disaster? What on earth do you base that on? What absolute rubbish! lol
Was it very expensive for BMW to build engines especially for M cars, and therefore make them less profitable? Most probably! Do they use lots of fuel? Yep!
But the high revving snappy response and amazing sound added to the M badge rep 😛
So those downsides combined with the general push for better MPG and CO2 emissions was the reason they went to S55, oh and I'm sure the fact it's much easier to have various levels of power with a turbo engine was a significant factor too.
@@Omegaman1969 ALL M cars after the E90 M3 has S engines that are directly derived from the N54. - Learn your BMW engine history bro! They all are supped up N54
@@cornishcarcollectors Hi. most cars that have a one in a lifetime out of the norm production difference gain value, but that only matters to collectors and those who look at cars as investments. The rest of us who enjoy the cars for a while and then move to the next driving experience, don't really spend time on that. Racers like me, just drive them, enjoy the thrill and then move on.