I love how Demiurge sounds quite simple (for Meshuggah, that is) but how this documentary shows just how much time they have had to put in it. Love the band, love the album, love the song, love the documentary!
Interesting to see they had a conversation on something ive always noticed about that song. The tempo is weird. Feels like it sounds better at 25%+ for me.
What I like : their path is not easy, and when they have "struggles" : they talk to each other. When I see them talk : I imagine a scene, with Vikings, discussing how to raid. Calmly and with no nonsense.
actually as a musician, not as successful as Meshuggah, when you get older and you work with older musicians, you can be like that, solving the struggles talking to each other and looking how to solve it together, when you are younger the anxiety to show yourself and your ideas can trigger a clash of egos, currently i'm 31 y/o and i was into band since i was 18, and when i've worked with guy of my age, when i was 22-23 years old we had tons of struggles that we were not going anywhere with it, adding the ego issues, but since last 4 years i been working with late 30's musicians and the struggles are solved pretty smoothly
@@santiagodepol6640 as someone who sometimes struggles with what you describe as ego-struggles, would you have any tips or methods to overcome that? I make music with a friend and I believe we both sometimes want to put in too much of our own 'uniqueness' in recording ideas and it causes some creative sessions to slow down or downright become unproductive. Do you have any advice, whether practical or philosophical? :p ty
Are you trying to create something which is beyond both of you, or are you both acting like solo artists trying to use each other to do 'your' thing and push your own agenda's? A way around this is to always have your own solo projects always going - that way if something does not fit the group project you still have an outlet to express yourselves and nothing is wasted. When you stop trying to make a project express an individual player/s it can take on an unexpected life of it's own that neither of you may have anticipated. For musical philosophy from our current age look into guitarist Robert Fripp who is a massive influence on TOOL and Meshuggah. Sometimes a piece of music needs one person to play the same line over and over for other players parts to really shine. The whole band wins. The song Kings and Queens by Killing Joke is a great example of the rhythm section just holding it down whilst the guitar and vocals bring their own tension, but if the rhythm section was trying to be busy and expressive it would lose the tension which they create. Hope you are achieving your individual and collective goals.@@wavewithus4081
Last Vigil is SO Beautiful... Takes mi mind and heart to a WARM PLACE Where I feel off this World... Just like ACRID PLACIDITY too... Meshuggah is in My heart Forever!!! Thank you guys for inspire my life with your Music... MUCH LOVE TO YOU ALL FROM CHILE 🇨🇱!!!
as i grew up i liked bands, gradually getting heavier and heavier, when i landed on meshuggah, there was no where to go, they are the only band, and the last band i will ever be a fan of. Nothing compares
i would love to see an album where it has no limits, no boundaries, something where the entire band doesnt have to panic about what they cant or can put in
o thank god they put the last vigil at the end and gave it a decent time, it one of my favorite songs ever!!! the calm after the storm- very reflective and introverted in feel :D
The last Vigil sounds a lot like Tesseracts April. Amazing clean sounding 8-strings! Props to Meshuggah for keeping it as a last song and more than a minute long :D
You're just proving my point. I'm making a comment on the way people think about their music. Meshuggah is one of my favorite groups for one main reason: that I actually understand and relate to the way they write their music, that it's about groove and the feel of the rhythms. People who try to "interpret" their music are people who don't understand it, and I feel sorry for them, because they think of Meshuggah as a "deathcore, mathmetal" band, when they are just virtuosos.
Love this band!! First time I saw them was in 1999!! Opened for Slayer!! Their opening song was Concatenation!! That pit opened up immediately!! The place erupted!! It was amazing!!
great to see some of these seminal tunes in construction, to appreciate how much goes into a track including debates about tempo. and to think that some of these takes ended up on demiurge...
Thanks for the great videos! Meshuggah's music is fantastic, their skills are fantastic AND: they are really likeable guys! That's, I think, not often the case. Great band.
Probably for show more than anything unless as it would be noisy from not being a symmetrical humbucker unless each of the three coils are summed specifically to do so.
A question might sometimes be asked as leading and to prove a point. It's kinda like what people with a depth in their thinking calls irony, but then again I wouldn't expect you to understand that.
hey i know someone replied already but definitely chorus and one crucial thing is to have a harmonizer, i believe its a 5th higher or lower, ive gotten a similar tone, nothing close though...
I am trying to figure out why the hell they would be using what seems a Philips moodlight in the middle of night in their studio? is the winter in the north that bad?
i think they should have put vigil before demiurge, demiurge amazing outro to the album but then last vigil just suddenly appears and feels really out of place
The last half of your comment was pretty ignorant. I (and most of the people who interpret and analyze this kind of music) enjoy the groove and the vibe, but we also like exploring what's going on behind the groove, analyzing how they do it, and (in my case) try to incorporate it into our own technique as musicians. There's nothing wrong with that.
As I recall it I was not the one to start with personally attacks, that is all on you. I asked a simple question aimed to your statement that to me just says you are full of yourself. If you would have just said that you don't like the way they took their music I would have been fine with it but you had to go defining what is music and in my opinion you don't get to decide that. Then again, all this is just my opinion.
I love how Demiurge sounds quite simple (for Meshuggah, that is) but how this documentary shows just how much time they have had to put in it. Love the band, love the album, love the song, love the documentary!
Interesting to see they had a conversation on something ive always noticed about that song. The tempo is weird. Feels like it sounds better at 25%+ for me.
What I like : their path is not easy, and when they have "struggles" : they talk to each other. When I see them talk : I imagine a scene, with Vikings, discussing how to raid. Calmly and with no nonsense.
actually as a musician, not as successful as Meshuggah, when you get older and you work with older musicians, you can be like that, solving the struggles talking to each other and looking how to solve it together, when you are younger the anxiety to show yourself and your ideas can trigger a clash of egos, currently i'm 31 y/o and i was into band since i was 18, and when i've worked with guy of my age, when i was 22-23 years old we had tons of struggles that we were not going anywhere with it, adding the ego issues, but since last 4 years i been working with late 30's musicians and the struggles are solved pretty smoothly
@@santiagodepol6640 as someone who sometimes struggles with what you describe as ego-struggles, would you have any tips or methods to overcome that?
I make music with a friend and I believe we both sometimes want to put in too much of our own 'uniqueness' in recording ideas and it causes some creative sessions to slow down or downright become unproductive. Do you have any advice, whether practical or philosophical? :p ty
Are you trying to create something which is beyond both of you, or are you both acting like solo artists trying to use each other to do 'your' thing and push your own agenda's? A way around this is to always have your own solo projects always going - that way if something does not fit the group project you still have an outlet to express yourselves and nothing is wasted. When you stop trying to make a project express an individual player/s it can take on an unexpected life of it's own that neither of you may have anticipated. For musical philosophy from our current age look into guitarist Robert Fripp who is a massive influence on TOOL and Meshuggah. Sometimes a piece of music needs one person to play the same line over and over for other players parts to really shine. The whole band wins. The song Kings and Queens by Killing Joke is a great example of the rhythm section just holding it down whilst the guitar and vocals bring their own tension, but if the rhythm section was trying to be busy and expressive it would lose the tension which they create. Hope you are achieving your individual and collective goals.@@wavewithus4081
Last Vigil is SO Beautiful... Takes mi mind and heart to a WARM PLACE Where I feel off this World... Just like ACRID PLACIDITY too... Meshuggah is in My heart Forever!!! Thank you guys for inspire my life with your Music... MUCH LOVE TO YOU ALL FROM CHILE 🇨🇱!!!
Whatever Marten is doing at 3:43 is so beautiful!
the last song of koloss if your wondering
The last Vigil
the first time ive heard any of them speak in their native tounge...i feel like im watching ancient metal gods discuss the fate of the world
They are discussing what other bands will be ripping off for decades to come
@@metalheadblues not a bad thing, but the imitators will forever be left in the dust
Koloss has the heaviest metal bass tone ever, it fckin sounds like an electric water motor on loop
as i grew up i liked bands, gradually getting heavier and heavier, when i landed on meshuggah, there was no where to go, they are the only band, and the last band i will ever be a fan of. Nothing compares
me too, dude
Same
Fractalize has sure outdone yet stayed as good as meshuggah is.
100% agreed
Absolutely 100% agree
Damn, I want one of those Dolphins. Such an aesthetically appealing bass.
i want his mindset,approach n fingers......the bass will sound good even on a basic model
@@rajeshkapoor8549 wow so deep bro
jk anyone can have the mentality. Just get up and work at it. Lol
👏👏👏👏
I liked so much when they were talking to each other at 6:54, it's so interesting to see them trying to be on the same page!
it's always a true privileged to see your favorite bands in studio
i would love to see an album where it has no limits, no boundaries, something where the entire band doesnt have to panic about what they cant or can put in
o thank god they put the last vigil at the end and gave it a decent time, it one of my favorite songs ever!!! the calm after the storm- very reflective and introverted in feel :D
I wish The Violent Sleep of Reason had a song like Last Vigil. Koloss is probably my favorite album of theirs :)
@@thewildhealer541 stifled?
MESHUGGAH for me is subtle madness.
Man... I'd totally listen to a full album of Mårtens' clean noodlings. That was amazing.
4:42 how the discuss this epic part of the album, and then seeing it being played almost brought tears to my eyes. Just incredible.
Meshuggah is a gift to mankind
The last Vigil sounds a lot like Tesseracts April. Amazing clean sounding 8-strings! Props to Meshuggah for keeping it as a last song and more than a minute long :D
I’ve always imagined when Dick will have a bass tuned to low F until the recent album with d#
Meshuggah are such good communicators, to the media but also to each other.
You're just proving my point. I'm making a comment on the way people think about their music. Meshuggah is one of my favorite groups for one main reason: that I actually understand and relate to the way they write their music, that it's about groove and the feel of the rhythms. People who try to "interpret" their music are people who don't understand it, and I feel sorry for them, because they think of Meshuggah as a "deathcore, mathmetal" band, when they are just virtuosos.
Love this band!! First time I saw them was in 1999!! Opened for Slayer!! Their opening song was Concatenation!! That pit opened up immediately!! The place erupted!! It was amazing!!
djentlemen
respect
passion
no drama
just gods going about their business
god damn time flies
oh thank you dear Meshuggah for leaving the Last Vigil in the album and leaving it as long as it is. Would be sad if it were a minute long :))
These guys...
That rythm is sick of these guys like how the hell do they fit that together is just master level handling the guitar/drums/bas...
Thanks for vid. Meshuggah writes history.
how beautiful is swedish language, especially when it souns from such structured guys
favorite band since 1998! ...and im 28 now :-)
Thanks for these 2 videos up!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m so use to jens English but it’s awesome to hear his Swedish
I love how wide that snare sounds
great to see some of these seminal tunes in construction, to appreciate how much goes into a track including debates about tempo. and to think that some of these takes ended up on demiurge...
i love how some parts 'get' unplayable if you fuck up the tempo but the poor haake has to learn them fucked up 4/4 measures messing your inner soul
Thanks for the great videos!
Meshuggah's music is fantastic, their skills are fantastic AND: they are really likeable guys! That's, I think, not often the case.
Great band.
i love their mannerisms, so different to Australians(me). There is no argument, they just say what they think and work together.
czr7j9 It’s the Swedish consensus culture.
Actually I saw an interview where Marten was saying how lucky they were to have met since they all "wanted to do the same exact thing."
@@linusfotograf nope. It's european culture
@@BlackHeart_UA-cam_Channel Not all European countries strive for consensus.
It's a Scandinavian thing
Triple coil humbucker 3:03 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
fuckin awesome. I am so glad music has Meshuggah to take care of it.
Thank god for the subtitles! Or thanks to the uploader actually.
It's great that they work digitally, but I would love to hear how it would sound if they'd do everything with analog gear.
Violent Sleep of Reason
Immutable is analog
Probably for show more than anything unless as it would be noisy from not being a symmetrical humbucker unless each of the three coils are summed specifically to do so.
0:34 WAIT WHAT. I would sell a nut to watch him build a riff like that
6:55 LOL Marten's inner caveman is so powerful on Demiurge everyone thinks the song sounds too slow.
Я с 96 года слушаю, МешугА, не подрожаемо!
2:36 I wonder what they used that triple-coil pickup for.
5:20 guitar wearing a drum pedal t-shirt. that's how good CzarcieKopyto is!
Or tomas gave it to him lol
Fredrik is a drummer as well
0:59 *If there is any chance, I would love to buy one of their personal guitars hanging on the wall.*
The 17/8 rhythms may be played on guitar as 17/8 laid over a 4/4 drum beat. Meshuggah likes polymeter.
A question might sometimes be asked as leading and to prove a point. It's kinda like what people with a depth in their thinking calls irony, but then again I wouldn't expect you to understand that.
Most bands create songs by going with the emotions.
Meshuggah does it as if they were constructors of some highly technical super machine...
hey i know someone replied already but definitely chorus and one crucial thing is to have a harmonizer, i believe its a 5th higher or lower, ive gotten a similar tone, nothing close though...
This is very cool...!
Oh my sweet lord Cheesus in heaven. 2:33 8-string baritone Iceman on the wall...... I want. I want...
BigKyleTX fuck. Me too buddy
That bass player's tone, though
interesting how they have the monitor speakers set up wrong.
7:20 - 5 октября )))
This video should be the Go-to for that riff in Demiurge that everyone plays wrong
Love the Minnesota Wild jersey around the 7:00 minute mark
And who are you to decide what is music "per se"?
sorry i have been working a lot lately, im uploading it right now.
This is really cool
This is great. Is there Part 1, though?
HOLY CRAP THAT SLOW RIFF SOUNDS LIKE APRIL BY TESSERACT!!!
what software is this 5:37
I want that poster/posterlikething in the background at 7:04 so bad.
at 0:04 i think he meant to say "whatever we do sounds good"
Cubase/Nuendo click....niiiiiiice!
3:42 anyone know how to get that tone? I know it's based off of an effect but the name of it escapes me
5:17 czarcie kopyto T-shirt nice to see some Polish thing on the video :)
cubase vst's for everything my friend
I could be way of the mark but, to me, it sounds like a mix of chorus, delay and echo over a clean tone.
Can somebody please tell me what riff/song that is at 5:25??
I am trying to figure out why the hell they would be using what seems a Philips moodlight in the middle of night in their studio? is the winter in the north that bad?
De ä bar å åk.
fucking great album
This is the most swedish thing ever
Lol yu-gi-oh in the related videos. That show was the jam when it came out in america. Meshuggah will send you to the Shadow realm lol!
hey man, why don't you use Guitar rig 5? try it.
what song is that at 1:26?
Demiurge.
What software is using to edit the sound? Does anyone know?
ye
Så jävla hårda! Varenda en! haha
What would you even use it for?
0:42 i got you
i think they should have put vigil before demiurge, demiurge amazing outro to the album but then last vigil just suddenly appears and feels really out of place
Sakeroz I think the last vigil on album is nothing compared to the version on this movie. Where's that goosebump bass ?!
What was that? Tesseract?
The last half of your comment was pretty ignorant. I (and most of the people who interpret and analyze this kind of music) enjoy the groove and the vibe, but we also like exploring what's going on behind the groove, analyzing how they do it, and (in my case) try to incorporate it into our own technique as musicians. There's nothing wrong with that.
3:03 What the fuck it that? A triple coil pickup?
People must know
You are.
5:01
Είναι καταπληκτικοί.
I forget sometimes these gentlemen are swedish
guys know notes, that's cool
i think its cubase
vodka will not solve the problem
listen to the new song "pitch black"
As I recall it I was not the one to start with personally attacks, that is all on you. I asked a simple question aimed to your statement that to me just says you are full of yourself. If you would have just said that you don't like the way they took their music I would have been fine with it but you had to go defining what is music and in my opinion you don't get to decide that. Then again, all this is just my opinion.
Konstrukting the koloss? Thought they were playing mortla kombat :v