Jim Cornette on Vince Russo Claiming The New Midnight Express & The NWA Invasion Were Jim's Ideas
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- From Episode 176 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
Artwork by Travis Heckel!
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Jim : “I’m ranting aren’t I Brian?”
All of us : “ please don’t stop”
*RANT FOREVER* clap clap clap clap clap
@@sajidmahmud7945 Ar ek jon deshi Cornette shrota dekhi :O
@@4zafinc C. C c V c. V. Be
Daddy issues
Love it
“This is your show, isn’t it Brian?”
“Hypothetically.”
😂😂😂😂
Typical Jim Cornette video on this channel: anywhere between 10 - 20 minutes.
Jim Cornette on Vince Russo: 1 hour 2 minutes.
Jim Cornette vs Dairy Queen: 25 years
I ain't complaining. 60 minutes of Jim vs Russo is better than 180 minutes of raw
You forgot when they talk about food and stuff that goes beyond 20min
That's what got me hooked in the first place. "I don't want to fight Vince Russo, first of all he's a former world champion". Jimmy is just naturally funny.
@@rapidashingfrog6946 I needed like 4 minutes to stop laughing after that line!
"If you have to ask who Shit-Stain is, you're a new listener"
Damn, Jim's actually right otherwise this is such an obscure reference in general lol
If you have to ask who Shit Stain is then you don't know anything about Jim Cornette. I don't even listen to his podcast regularly and the first time I heard him say it I knew it was Russo.
"Never lie about an obsessive record keeper" i'm gonna start using that one at work 😂
Soooo...Don't mess with Tyro (Final Fantasy Record Keeper)?
If you're surrounded by lies at work, you need a new gig.
Unless you're a pimp.
@@daedaethomas47 “What? God, no. No, I'm just trying to help a friend. “
Amen. I'm an obsessive keeper of baseball score cards, of games I've been to. Major or minor league. Don't start an argument with someone who knows more than you. Good advice.
Gotta respect Cornette's dedicated hatred for this man. 22 years and still going strong.
Russo deserves it.
More like dedicated to the Truth
@@clayp7284 corny hasn't told the truth in over 30yrs.. remember HE'S A HEEEEEL
@Sub if you are against Antifa and BLM From your very name I will dismiss anything you say as nonsense.
He hates random conservatives this much. He's just a hateful lefty soyboy who never got laid
I like how a simple "I wasn't even there when they did this." Would've answered the question but Jim picks it apart and makes it an hour. Good storyteller and I appreciate hearing facts about wrestling instead of the myriad of lies that surround it.
3 things make you click this video:
1. Jim
2. Russo
3. 1 hour long video rant.
💪😎
4. Travis’s amazing art work !
@@dcrawford9258 Thanks! I'm ashamed I missed that. 👍👍👍
@@georgesalgado8783 the first three were right on! Jim will always be #1
This fued needs to be on AEW pal that's entertainment
I never get tired of listening to Cornette. I’m sure he’s a lot happier with life now, but it’s almost a shame that he’s not involved in wrestling anymore in some capacity. His intellect and wittiness and knowledge of the business is unmatched
Classic Cornett, an encyclopedia of wrestling. A genius that understood the business. Hilarious always.
I love how Travis has Popeye Cornette with a racket tattoo!
Lmao
I didn't realize that until now lmao
Great eye🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Little things matter
Travis did the same version of Popeye Cornette on another video clip. I think it was about Dave Meltzer and Kenny Olivier trying to stir Jim up on Twitter. 😂
Russo's the type of guy to call his wife Bro
I can see it happening
Probably even in the bedroom 😂
@2005 Cool Year Go get a life bro 🙄👍
@@MeNoSpeakJibberish “ah yea bro oh bro IM COMING BRO!”
Reminds me of Cheech and Chong doing 24 with Bobby Lee on MadTV
Mr Chong: 'You got it, man.'
Mrs Chong: 'Don't call me 'man'. I'm your wife.'
Mr Chong: 'Okay, dude.'
Not as good as the one with John Cena, but still a good'n.
we still need a dark side of the ring for Cornette and Russo. would be a huge missed oppurtunity
I think the WWE needs to bring them in for a program first. I don't think this Corny v. Russo angle is over by a long shot!
I think the Brawl for All episode was about as close as you'll get to that. Think that explains how they really feel
What was dark about it though?
@@wilabanodeniro9780 same could be asked about 80% of dsotr episodes...so might as well do this one too.
@@DreadEdenoi I think the brawl for all was more like an introduction to the Russo Cornette Angle for unfamiliar vice fans. A preview, a foreshadow if you will! Believe me, we haven’t heard the last of cornette v Russo on dark side of the ring.
One hour rant about shitstain? This made my day!!!
This made my week!
I just muted raw to listen to this
@@scottshaffer7296 surprised that you needed a reason to mute raw 😂
You know one time when Jim was suggesting that aew must charge extra for Jericho commentary, when he was really good at it. I think WWE must offer commentary less and fake crowd noise less version of their television, they'll make a lot of money.
Its been a while 🤣 he normally hates giving him any publicity at all now
@2005 Cool Year Lies about Russo ROFL!!!!! The Russo Squad has arrived! *cue music*
I'm a simple man. I see Jim Cornette and Vince Russo in the same title. I click.
Smokes, let's go!
Frig off Rick
Vince Russo is as dumb as Cory and Trevor
The thumbnail alone made me laugh.
You do sound simple.
Crapping all over Shitstain for over an hour?! It’s my belated birthday gift 🎁😂
Happy birthday🎂!
Dae Dae Thomas thank you Sir 👍🏼
Happy Birthday! 🎊🎉
Alicious Al thank you 🙏🏼
"Happy birthday, F you, bye!"
How Many others saw Jim Cornette Vince Russo and just clicked.
When I came here it was showing uploaded 15 seconds ago 😂
That thumbnail was all I needed.
Also didn't realise it was over an hour until it started, my reaction was "of course."
Obviously!
@2005 Cool Year change the record 🙄
Oh hell yes
You mean Bombastic Bob and Bodacious Bart werent Jim 's idea , no shit lol
I had honestly thought the NWA Invasion was Jim's idea. Because on the surface, it seemed like something within Him's wheelhouse.
We need a series on Netflix, UA-cam or some shit with Jim where he just talks and give a huge history lesson of pro wrestling, A-Z bubba. I don't care if its 98798 episodes. I would listen and love it.
Sign me up for that too
Isn’t that what these podcasts basically already do? Lol.
@@a.d.3788 I was coming to say this lol
That's this show lol he talks about wrestling history a lot on here
Welcome to right now. Your wish has been fulfilled. Press play.
Gotta applaud both Jim and Bobby Eaton for their class. The former for calling Bobby to get his blessing, and the latter for knowing what it's like to fight for a spot on the card and not deprive two guys that opportunity.
In hindsight Bobby should have put up a fight it might have saved Bart Gunn and Bob Holly from being doomed under a gimmick that made zero sense.
As soon as i saw the title and the length of this vid i went and made popcorn.
@2005 Cool Year dude stop spamming
@2005 Cool Year Who goes to the trouble of 4 accounts to like a comment 4 times? Same kind of *loser* who spams the same copy & paste garbage in every comment on a youtube video 😉😂
@2005 Cool Year what kinda heroin did you inject in your urethra? Why would i do something like that? Maybe 4 people agreed with me!
I like his line "Never lie about an obsessive record keeper!" Very true!
Easy shit stain 😂🤣😂
Never LIE about an obsessive record keeper 🤣💩
Ol' Vinny Ru has slid into obscurity, so it must be time to poke the sleeping Cornette bear again.
This is an awesome deep dive! So much more to this time than you would think and I'm happy Cornette remembers so much of it.
The funny thing is, Bart Gunn and Bob Holly, with a manager cutting their promos, could have been a passable tag team act for that era, but calling them the Midnight Express doomed them from day 1.
How come they couldn't get Bobby, Stan, or at least Dennis Connedy?
Other than the Smokin Guns I don't recall them being called that.They did get split up soon after Bart Gunn did that boxing bit against Butterbean.
They had Cornette...their problem was they had no office support
@@marvinalexander6796 Condrey and Lane had long been retired and Bobby was under contract with WCW
@@marvinalexander6796
Who's Dennis Connedy?
jim never stop burying russo, your burials of vince are as good as brett hart burying hogan
Also as good as Brett burying Shawn. Or Brett burying HHH. Or Brett burying Goldberg. Or Brett burying Bischoff. Or Brett burying today's business.
@@cbizzlenizzle With all of these burials, was Brett approached first for the Undertaker gimmick? lol
You all gotta learn how to spell Bret already. I know Brett is a thing too, but it's Bret Hart.
@@MrHawkelement What else would you expect from the Hitman!
F*** that there's only one Midnight Express!
TY 🙏
Well, two. Only 4 members
@Charming Billy wait I think someone is missing actually two more people.
I agree, there is only one Midnight Express - Randy Rose, Dennis Condrey & Norvell Austin.............oh wait................................
@Charming Billy Rose/Condrey were the originals...
Well technically..
Rose/Condrey/Norvell Austine were the originals
Love the tennis racket tattoo on Popeye Cornette 😂😂😂
This is why Jim and Vince really need to do that verbal debate, I really want to get to the bottom of this
I will pay some money to see it.. lol Seriously..
Jim going off on Russo for an hour is the best surprise of the year
Lmao a new hour long clip crapping on Russo? A late Christmas gift!
Seems like you’re pretty pathetic if that constitutes a Christmas gift, a 60 year old man b*tching about a writer who replaced him over 20 years ago🤷🏻♂️🤣
@@tededwards5709 Deep breaths.. now wipe away the tears.
@@tededwards5709 Corny's more entertaining than an episode of Raw or SD, which quite frankly has become VERY predictable with their booking of the talent.
@@TheSportsfan35 "talent"
@@sebmeister67 What about Vince's talent?
I agree corny, hate those liars that lie so much they can't keep track of their own shit!!!
the minute I heard Russo statement, I knew Jim was going to go off on it, been waiting for this
The Titandog70 it's been about 3yrs in the making or longer?
@@timothywelch2999 true , it been building for awhile
Man i seen Russo in the title and just laughed before listening
Why? Cornette’s creative ideas sucked, hence why they didn’t need him anymore.
@@tededwards5709 yea because shit stain did such a great job in wcw. Actually Ted have you ever watched TNA in 2003. I dare you because it was some of the worst shit i ever watched. I had to stop in march 2003 because it was that bad. But hey, if you like guys dying from a stupid stunt and midgets beating off in a trash can then have at it.
@@christopherhamer9584 Exactly right.
@@christopherhamer9584 bahahahahahaha damn
@@tededwards5709 no response? It's been a year. Apparently I obliterated your ass and you're in witness protection with Vinnie Ru because I never hear a word out of him anymore. BTW I never said corny was a perfect booker. Every booker ever had had bad ideas but Russo was the drizzling shits. I used to be hardcore rasslin fan but it's LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to watch whole episodes of WCW from October 99 to October 2000. And I didn't think it was possible but TNA in 2003 was worst. Like I said last year I tried watching early TNA and I couldn't do it. I made it from January to March 2003 and I had to stop because it was the worst shit I've ever seen.
This is just A++++++++++ storytelling. JC is so damn intelligent and articulate when it comes to telling a story.
I always get a kick out of vocabulary. He will absolutely demolish someone and be so eloquent at the same time it makes it that much funnier!
Just not so great when it comes to creative
“I can’t handle the divorce papers now, honey, Cornettes talking about Russo again!”
I just read the title and thought "Oh God, this is gonna go well"!
Same here. This is bout to be a ShitStain special!!
Exactly
I read the title and thought oh God this is going to go really long
@2005 Cool Year you enjoy copy and paste, huh... say ir one more time, only said it like 10 times on 5 posts.
@2005 Cool Year will do. I appreciate you
An hour long? This is gonna be good.
@2005 Cool Year Am I suppose to know who a Razorfistyourself is?
@2005 Cool Year Ma-Ma-Mark World Order
I love muting marks lmmfao
@2005 Cool Year gay
I’m always impressed with Corny’s record keeping. That’s a lot of weeks and years.
I didn’t mind the NWA angle that much at the time, as honestly, the presentation sounds about as competent as a Crash TV era WWF angle can be when you break it down and analyze it. Even then you basically knew they weren’t trying to present the group as a threat to Austin, but like a lot of Attitude era stuff, it sounds like something that if you took it out of the context of that loaded show and put on TV in today’s climate would probably have a better result because of the way the show is structured. Back then, it was all short matches and onto the next angle.
Agreed they totally dropped the ball on Severn. I could see him and Corny working in a Brock/Heyman like way if they showed a bit of restraint with him.
WWF was full of those rushed 2 minute matches, so the NWA thing kind of blended with the rest of the blah.
Haha oh no, Vinnie Ru is poking the bear once again.
@2005 Cool Year I don’t understand, what point are you making? Does this “RazorFist” expose Cornette and Russo as liars?
@2005 Cool Year interesting... can you send me the exact link. I enjoy hearing both sides. Cornette in my mind has always been a hypocrite and I have always seen Russo as the liar.
I loved the "NWA Invasion" in WWF angle of 1998. I couldn't get enough of it. I even had my buddy tape "Shotgun Saturday Night" so that I could see it. I had been done watching the WWF's programming (for years) until the NWA Invasion angle made me a regular viewer again. I stopped watching the WWF again after the NWA and Severn left, and I have never started watching that promotion's new material again. I also thought that the New Midnight Express were good NWA World tag team champions. I always thought that Cornette had a lot to do with those, and I always gave him credit where credit was due, but if Cornette doesn't want credit for some great stuff...
I also liked the NWA invasion too just unfortunately most matches were shit on by the wwf live fans chants of boring and silence most matches was met by ....its sad
Wrestling fans have fotten worse throughout the years.
It's not his style to take credit for stuff he didn't do. Russo or Hogan, however...
"I invented wataar" - Vince Russo
And Billy Kidman!
Bro
I know Jim has said he would NEVER work on anything with Shitstain, but I guarantee that if they did a TV debate it would get higher ratings than RAW
I can’t stand listening to russo talk. He has to say “bro” every 3 words.
@Jaevon Marseillee hulk hogan is almost just as bad when he says “brother” every sentence.
You must really hate Matt Riddle lol
@@louis3141 lmao well I don’t pick on people who seem to be brain dead or high all the time.
Bro, what's wrong with bro, bro?
@777killad - We don’t talk like that out here that’s just literally Russo trying to sound cool dude is a cornball.
Lol Russo can't get through a single sentence without lying. No surprise there.
Love Jim's rant. Highlight of the night.
Clicked link, saw the length...... strap yourself in folks.
I'm pretty sure Russo admitted this was his idea to throw Jim a bone. It was on a kayfabe commentaries shoot.
Dan Severn’s entrance music was such a banger
How many people miss JC talking about Russo? The time has come
I agree, a Russo rant by Cornette has been long overdue.
@@MisterE1976 not really, he mentions him every episode. The rant is stupid anyway, Russo causally mentioned this for like 10 seconds and clearly didn’t remember it right, and Cornhole rants about it for an hour. Lol kinda sad
@@tededwards5709 Dude any time Jim Cornett rants about Vince Russo it’s hilarious LOL
@@tededwards5709 Agreed
No one can do pissed off better than Jim Cornette
An hour???!? Lemme get my popcorn😂
"It's gonna be my show here for a second..."
How many "invasions" did Vince manage to screw up?
NWA
ECW
WCW
OvW
NXT. Twice.
Nexus and Retribution.
Retribution
Lol smarks. Think the y smarter than Vince
Sorry, Jim, but you’re wrong about the April 98 date in Greenville, SC. The Bi-Lo Center didn’t open until September of that year, the first event was Pearl Jam, and the first wrestling show there was Nitro that had Sting v Goldberg as the main event
That April 24th, 1998 Greenville, SC WWF show was at Furman University’s Timmons Arena. Memorial Auditorium had been demolished in 1997 and it’s replacement, the Bilo Center, would not open until September 1998.
ive been watching on the peacock so all this is super fresh in my mind. im at the new midnight express episode where corny betrays the midnight. this is like a director's commentary on dvds!
*“BRO.”*
- Vince Russo
@2005 Cool Year is that you Russo bro?
You're a mark! You're just copying and pasting that comment. Bruce Pritchard backs up Corny! He was there too!
I never knew how much Russo just completely ruined angles in wrestling it’s unbelievable. He’s also responsible for killing off WCW
Hogan, bischoff and Nash had a hand in that as well
Hogan, Bischoff and Nash did it first.
Headbangers never got over because they acted like characters out of SLC Punk while wearing Marilyn Manson shirts. They looked like posers.
who let Cornette know of the presence of Russo again? oh well at least we get another Russo Rant out of it.
"If you're going to be a good liar, you have to be able to at least talk good."
And have good records
I've literally seen video proof of russo saying it was his idea. It's documented.
My dad always said, “a liar has to have a good memory”.
Ohhh boy HERE WE GO!!!! I can listen to ol Corny rant on Sh**stain all day!
I can't imagine what it must be like for a guy to know that 183,000 people generally refer to him "Sh*tstain" on a daily basis.
I can’t imagine how arrogant you must be to think he actually gives a fuck lol
lol I think in a casual conversation with a friend if they mentioned vince russo to me i would respond with ''Oh, shitstain?''
I recent watched the clip of Austin Stunning Jarrett and then doing the strut was funny AF, as the kids say. I didn't remember that Jarrett and Windham had just wrestled the NWA match. Also in the clip is Austin stunning Marc Mero and then throwing boxing punches.
I recently re-watched Austin stunning Sgt. Slaughter and then dropped and did push-ups. Austin's ad-libs were hilarious.
@@mc12358 how do you know it was ad libbed
@@mc12358 The only thing you've ordering is whole bunch of damn cheeseburgers 🍔
@@ReanimatorsMutilations just a guess, Austin had more than enough talent and charisma to come up with that kind of stuff on the spot.
@@DavidSmith-rv1bg 🤣🤣🤣
Jim is so good at working the mic, he can keep you entertained for an hour talking about Shitstain. Jim is awesome. Be like Jim.
Oh oh it's happening again somebody brought up the name Vince Russo to Jim hold onto your socks here it comes😉🤯😳😮😯😲😡🤬
I've literally heard Russo talk about how it was his idea and he came up with it for jim
Ian Meadows 100% true, he is a compulsive liar and Jim has every right to hate him
Yes! On Kayfabe Commentaries WWE Timeline 1998 Vince Russo stated it was his idea to show Jim that 80s NWA style wrestling would not work in the late 90s
BOBBYSOX86 yea, he pitched it to make Cornette look bad, as if time had passed him by, while sucking up to McMahon and badmouthing Cornette at the same time, fu$k him
@Fazal Khan In what way is Corny a liar?
@@TheSportsfan35 That guy is another Razorfist sockpuppet
These illustrations are amazing!! Whoever designed them deserves an award 🥇
My name’s Jeff
Vince Russo needs to learn that you don't throw rocks at a man with a machine gun.
I’m starting to think that Jim Cornette doesn’t have any love lost for Vinny “ MY BRO “ Russ-O 😂
Cornie is a walking encyclopedia.
Anything with Corny going in on Russo is an immediate click from me
Same especailly about Russo 😂
Corny hates him with a perfect hatred.
my old city Springfield Mass, In your house DX ppv I was there
Damn. Over an hour. He must really not like that guy lol.
Courney said he wanted to out live Russo just so he can piss on his grave 😂 yeah he hates Russo BAD!!
"Sundee" and "Mundee"
I clicked this as soon as I saw it but didn't realize it was 60 minutes long. This will have to go in the Save to Watch Later list
Cool
An hour long segment about Shitstain!?! This is going to be good.
Jim, 1849 called, they want all of their solid gold back.
MADE MY MORNING Jim I know hates reality TV but really need a reality show where he goes to diffrent promotions and tells them how to turn the show around guys there's not much he says I disagree with in terms of how feuds and how matches should go and The never lie about an obsessive record keep cracked me up and the fact that he won't say his name but S***stain 🤣
"The horribleness and awfulness will never be forgotten"
Another Ghost and Mr Chicken reference. I think we discovered one of his favorite movies
Well that is a classic Don Knotts film. Good catch.
Nah
15:58 "Hey can you get a bumpin' ho for Tuesday in Phoenix?" LOL
Hey Jim! I actually went to the show you mentioned wow! Brings back memories of KANE making his entrance, saw him taker, the rock, no Austin though..idk why
"We all had to go to Fresno."
I'm so sorry
no such thing as a spirit animal
That new Midnight Express/Brawl for All story....WOW!
lol'd at the Beaver Cleavage reference. Wow. That was all the way down the memory hole
Still dont know how on earth WWF didn't capitalize on shamrock vs Severn. That shit writes itself.
Maybe because they would have to do 'work' MMA style matches and WWE would think the audience would see right thru it? Just a theory.
So funny that Stone Cold came out and stunned Jarrett, and buried an already valueless title, as its debut
The nwa was garbage before stone cold stunned anyone. He didn’t bury anything. The mere implication that he did isn’t only misinformed, it’s stupid, and shows you have no idea about wrestling history in the 90’s. Period.
@@richaffinito5112 You're not good at listening to videos you click on; That was the first exposure they got to that big of an audience and THAT was the beginning on national television. It had a chance to be built up, at least on WWF television, but instead....They had a shitty match and the winner got randomly stunned by Austin with no follow-up.
Btw, you said "-shows you have no idea about wrestling history in the 90’s. Period." That's the point. It wasn't known about/exposed on national tv until this match occurred and THIS was how they chose to introduce it. Fucking pointless.
Who's he talking about when he says shitstain? Lol!!!
Are u listening ?
Everyone knows who shitstain is
The Arch Bishop of Talentbury himself
@@spinofthewheel53451:46 😂
Lying about an obsessive record taker is like dissing the rapper who wrote all your rhymes after they left your group (like NWA did Ice Cube). They will clap back and bury you every time (like Ice Cube did NWA). They're the types of people that are built to last; if you fuck with them, they'll put a foot in your ass. 🤷
Clever that u added the lyrics from gangsta gangstas. I saw what u did
I was at that Fayetteville show. It was my first wrestling event ever and I still remember the New Midnight Express. Two drunks got in a fight during Rock and HHH’s match and Rock got on the mic to berate the crowd for not paying attention to him.
I bet that was a hell of a roast especially since Rock was a heel at the time.
@@MisterE1976 Certainly made me a Rock fan.
Prediction of number of times "Shitstain" is used: 15
What's the over/under on "Dipshit"?
In the first 10 minutes lol
Is tnis when Bret Hart claims the Rock N Roll Express were told they weren't good enough for WWE?
People who think the Montreal screwjob is a work must think Jim cornette and Vinny Russo hating each other is a work too.
I see Jim Cornette and Vince Russo in the same title, I click!
Same hahahahahahaha
It's a must
Looking back on the early days of the Attitude Era, the only things I liked about it was what was going on with Austin/McMahon, Austin's programs Foley/Kane/Taker, The Rock's antics, various members of the Nation, and anyone that mingled in the Main Event Storylines. Aside from that the rest of the era is utter CRAP, yes which includes dX. The BEST thing to happen to the Attitude Era was when Vince Russo F**ked Off to WCW. Poor WCW.
Jim ranting about his arch bronemy is gold !
" I've heard from about three or four different people... which makes up pretty much most of his audience..."
Even when you prove a pathological liar wrong beyond a shadow of doubt they just make up another lie or insult you personally