Are these the best PAF humbuckers?

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  • Are these the best PAF humbuckers? Classic tone, sensible price. If you want classic tone at a sensible price then you should seriously consider the Tonerider Alnico II classics PAF humbucker set. These PAF humbuckers have alnico II magnets, 7.5k ohms in the nek, 8.3k ohms in the bridge and only cost £90!
    A vintage PAF is generally between 7.5k and 9k ohms and probably uses an Alnico II or Alnico V magnet, however studies into these shows they also frequently used Alico III and Alnico IV magnets.
    We shot these Tonerider PAF humbuckers out against the Gibson Burstbucker 1 and 2 set which is stock in a Gibson Les Paul standard and what I consider my favourite humbuckers, Monty's Guitars Full Monty in the bridge and Monty's Guitars Retro Wind in the neck.
    These budget PAF humbuckers really shone when playing individual notes, so if you're looking for the best budget PAF or a Gibson PAF alternative then these are probably the best option.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 103

  • @keeff
    @keeff Рік тому +301

    Would have been nice to hear the guitars in tune

    • @devinj
      @devinj Рік тому +8

      Seriously! All of them were out too haha

    • @JayOneAlumni
      @JayOneAlumni Рік тому +10

      that and with the same guitar! makes it pointless with different guitars

    • @R.Stridstrom
      @R.Stridstrom Рік тому +16

      First thing that struck me, first strum.
      I dont get how you could do all this work and dont even hear that you are out of tune.
      Tuner ?

    • @USMarine75
      @USMarine75 Рік тому +7

      The green one and the Chapman were painfully out of tune.

    • @LordFingers1
      @LordFingers1 Рік тому +4

      Painfully out of tune

  • @unabonger777
    @unabonger777 Рік тому +43

    I would try tuning it before changing pickups, you might be surprised

  • @patrickhernandez9529
    @patrickhernandez9529 2 місяці тому +5

    Can't believe we have two guitars dudes, playing guitar on a guitar themed yt channel and they play three guitars which aren't in tune...... Bloody hell

  • @allenanderson6430
    @allenanderson6430 Рік тому +42

    I love this concept for a video, but please friends, tune that guitar! It's so hard to focus on anything else when my ears are so focused on it not being in tune.

  • @silverwings1843
    @silverwings1843 11 місяців тому +7

    Yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!!! You would think you would have spent some effort in TUNING. Each was way out of tune!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @davidwest8140
    @davidwest8140 Рік тому +9

    I'm more drawn to the tones when the guitar is in tune..... Lose.all interest in the tone when the guitars are out of tune unfortunately.
    Nice comparison though.

  • @Great-Documentaries
    @Great-Documentaries Рік тому +3

    My CV Squier Strat Deluxe HSHS came with a set of these (alone with the Tonerider Surfari in the mid position) back in 2014. Glad to see others are finally discovering what I learned nearly a decade ago!

  • @alexstrums
    @alexstrums 7 місяців тому +2

    Great review guys! I dropped in a set of Tonerider AC2's to replace Burstbucker 1&2 in my 2022 Gibson LP Standard. I found the BB's were way too bright and I could never dial them to my liking. I find the AC2's neck pickup can be quite dark for playing clean (through a Fender style blackface) so I usually use an EQ pedal to bring out some of the brightness and clarity. If I'm using a drive or fuzz pedal, the bassy-ness it has makes for an awesome tone. You kinda get the best of both worlds when you use an EQ pedal with this pickup. The bridge pickup is fantastic. This set are not going anywhere for a looooong time!

  • @thelolguy007
    @thelolguy007 Рік тому +7

    I had to stop after 2 mins guys. Tune the guitars, please

  • @bitodin
    @bitodin 8 місяців тому +6

    Is this a blind test on which guitar is in tune?

  • @SouthpawSatch
    @SouthpawSatch Рік тому +7

    Just goes to show how excellent the Tone Riders are, I have used used them for years and ive always been impressed by the quality for the price. I have monty's in a les paul too and I love them equally.

  • @panumattila1253
    @panumattila1253 Рік тому +4

    Toneriders actually sound incredibly great!

  • @thelolguy007
    @thelolguy007 Рік тому +5

    Suppose it’s only fair that all guitars were out of tune 🤷‍♂️

  • @canadianintheukbrian
    @canadianintheukbrian 7 місяців тому

    it's great to know that you don't need to break the bank to obtain a decent bucker, for some us mortals who don't own Les Pauls but Les Paul types like my Vintage V100 this is a perfect upgrade definitely something I will be looking at in the future along with the pots and switches

  • @jnuhjnuh
    @jnuhjnuh Рік тому +5

    Tune guitars 1 and 2, please.

  • @DBroce
    @DBroce Рік тому +3

    As said below, how can I take you seriously when you’re doing a demo with an out of tune guitar.

  • @edwinwise6751
    @edwinwise6751 Рік тому +4

    I have used tone riders . They are real improvement over stock pieces

    • @juffurey
      @juffurey Рік тому

      Seems like anything is an improvement in a guitar that costs up to $800, ridiculous, luckily really good pickups can be found for really good prices now.

  • @wareloski2137
    @wareloski2137 Рік тому +3

    Biggest difference was Guitar 2 being out of tune

  • @cwmims
    @cwmims Рік тому +2

    It's so important to tune the guitar first before doing a demo fellas. :(

  • @VanjaSpirin
    @VanjaSpirin 11 місяців тому +2

    I use Toreriders for years. They are the best sounding pickups to my taste. Better than SD or Dimarzios.Other great brand of cheap but very good pickups is Donlis.

  • @zeffneeson5214
    @zeffneeson5214 Рік тому +2

    Iron gear are another amazing budget pickup I have in a few of my guitars and they absolutely hold their own and build quality is expensive pickups are a farse👌definitely needed a tune up tho

  • @mrtumnusmusic
    @mrtumnusmusic 10 місяців тому

    That Burstbucker bridge pickup sounded amazing.

  • @SoloSi2024
    @SoloSi2024 5 місяців тому

    All sounded great. Tricky as different guitars will sound different with the same pickups. Love low output buckers, you can get nice cleans too. Surprised on the hum you got when engaging the drive pedal with the Toneriders.

  • @schou1170
    @schou1170 3 місяці тому +1

    How about tuning up, guys?!?

  • @Apollwn
    @Apollwn Рік тому +4

    Every Tonerider humbucker that I have tried (Alnico II, Alnico IV, Rocksong, Brmingham) was fantastic... but weren't the results of your test always going to be influenced by the fact that the pickups are installed in guitars that are extremely different?

  • @sadowskihomestudio
    @sadowskihomestudio Рік тому +2

    Why?! Why is these guitar permanently out of tune? 😱

  • @KozmykJ
    @KozmykJ 10 місяців тому +1

    IronGear do Very good pickups as well And cost less than the Toneriders.
    I had to decide between them for two guitar upgrades and that 20% tipped the scales.

  • @nickiden
    @nickiden Рік тому

    Awesome video. Those pick ups sound awesome

  • @adonikam1
    @adonikam1 10 місяців тому

    Demarzio Super Distortion in the bridge and Demarzio Super 2 in the neck position. POW!!!

  • @1stezekiel
    @1stezekiel Рік тому

    i was surprised by the "open sound" of these pic ups. they are great.

  • @mistergoat7357
    @mistergoat7357 Рік тому +2

    I’m only hearing 2-3 strings on the strum and it’s out of tune. Good pickups have string clarity. All 6 of them buggers… it can be done.. if this maker is poorly represented, you owe them money for lost sales and I would take action to remove this video…
    Exiting before the 5 minute mark..

  • @francoislepage8227
    @francoislepage8227 7 місяців тому

    Guitars are not in tune :( but I can confirm the Toneriders alnico2 are stunning, I've a set in my Gibson LP R7 and they are unbelievebly great...

  • @DennyBob521
    @DennyBob521 5 місяців тому

    The guitar with the Monties pickups has intonation/tuning issues. Not sure what you used to amplify, mic, record these, but none of them sound good clean in this presentation.

  • @conordyer2307
    @conordyer2307 Рік тому +3

    Tonerider were half the cost only a few years ago when I picked up 2 sets, along with a set of vanson alnico 2 pickups and a set of wilkinson alnico 5 pafs...they are all great pickups and were the same price but tonerider is the only one that increased their costs over the years.
    That why another test like this with wilkinson, vanson and artec alnico pickups would be a great test to compare even cheaper pickups than tonerider
    It would show how big brand like Seymour duncan, fender and gibson rip you off just to maintain license fees or the cost of their guitars.....300-500 for burstbuckers is a joke as they know you could buy a harley benton and b.buckers and tonewise it's essentially a gibson without the name on the headstock.
    Pickups are literally just plastic ,wire and magnets, no magic.......
    The amount of winds and magnet choice give it its voice which make many pickups very similar
    so expensive pickups your paying for the name and are not any better or worse than established cheaper brands

    • @alvaroruizruiz7538
      @alvaroruizruiz7538 11 місяців тому

      Between the tonerider alnico 2 and vanson 57 which ones do you think are better? Are they any different really?

  • @evankolpack
    @evankolpack 6 місяців тому

    I can't take any "musician" seriously who can't hear something obviously, painfully out of tune or time.

  • @SLO7HProductions
    @SLO7HProductions 9 місяців тому

    Aren't anybody doing any high gain metal sound comparisons anymore?

  • @juffurey
    @juffurey Рік тому

    when compared with the Gibson pickups I actually prefer the Tonerider alnico 4 ones. Just a bit more bite but not in the same way as the Gibsons.

  • @BarbarasMilk
    @BarbarasMilk 11 місяців тому +1

    There's tuning or intonation issues with your guitars.

  • @adrian_V99
    @adrian_V99 Рік тому

    Goo' day , Mr Phero Tone. A PAF is a 'patented applied for HB' and you're quite right they are at the same time the lowest output mass-manufactured ones. The II's all the more so. Cheers!

  • @MortandHarley
    @MortandHarley 11 місяців тому +2

    Ever heard of a guitar tuner???

  • @Kevbo4
    @Kevbo4 Місяць тому

    Appreciate the video but OMG the lack of tuning is horrible.

  • @bigstick5278
    @bigstick5278 10 місяців тому +1

    Scary that you can't hear your guitar is out of tune..

  • @LeeKirkman88
    @LeeKirkman88 Рік тому

    Immediately i went for 3 which is the tonerider.

  • @Musicology1975
    @Musicology1975 Рік тому

    Amazing quality from tonerider

  • @Frapzoid
    @Frapzoid Рік тому +1

    Paf? How about calling them P-A-F as in Patent Applied For? I like the way the "Lezzzz" Paul sounds. Why do the British say Lezzz Paul instead of Les Paul?

    • @KozmykJ
      @KozmykJ 10 місяців тому

      Because the name Les short for Leslie is way more common than Les short for Lester ...

    • @Frapzoid
      @Frapzoid 10 місяців тому +1

      @@KozmykJ So English people don't know his name was Lester oooops I mean LEZTER? 🤣

  • @geckobaldy
    @geckobaldy 10 місяців тому

    I have TR A4s in a LP a like. Very nice pups but I'm back using my Gibby 2004 LPS with BB Pros

  • @x7stringinJSCx
    @x7stringinJSCx 4 місяці тому

    Next time test out Tuner Pedals. See which is more accurate.

  • @schubiduba1
    @schubiduba1 8 місяців тому +1

    Pls tune the guitars before and set the intonation correctly

  • @benjamingreenlee8964
    @benjamingreenlee8964 5 місяців тому

    How can you get multiple guitars that far out of tune all in the same way?? It’s almost like you guys are just gear gear gear and don’t really actually play….

  • @CastlesMadeOf...
    @CastlesMadeOf... Рік тому +1

    Be good to hear them all in the same guitar - PITA I know but... SUBBED!!

    • @PherotoneStudios
      @PherotoneStudios  Рік тому +2

      I totally agree. I’ve almost finished building a guitar with a quick-change ability for comparisons. Just need to work out the wiring

    • @CastlesMadeOf...
      @CastlesMadeOf... Рік тому

      @@PherotoneStudios interesting 🤔

  • @skaboosh
    @skaboosh 9 місяців тому

    You have to play dynamically to test pickups, the Monty's respond dynamically brilliantly... Just strumming like that is just not that helpful

    • @skaboosh
      @skaboosh 9 місяців тому

      And the picking, vary the strength... "play" the pickups.....

  • @hank6429
    @hank6429 7 місяців тому

    Why is the guitar out of tune

  • @geckobaldy
    @geckobaldy 10 місяців тому

    All 3 guitars out of tune by exactly the same amount. Genius.

  • @Geert890
    @Geert890 6 місяців тому

    What the fuck is that tuning on guitar 2

  • @stewarttomkinson3356
    @stewarttomkinson3356 10 місяців тому

    B Y O ARE PAF AND SOUND GREAT

  • @jerrysolonsmith8471
    @jerrysolonsmith8471 Рік тому

    Guys..... Why are we filming videos with our of tube guitars.... It's so distracting i can't take the video seriously.

  • @RyanMaloneymusic
    @RyanMaloneymusic 5 місяців тому

    Tuning ahhhh

  • @colinfreeman-ib1zz
    @colinfreeman-ib1zz 8 місяців тому

    Different guitars, some more out of tune than others; not a fair comparison.

  • @TylerAnselmo11
    @TylerAnselmo11 Місяць тому

    gitar 2 sounds out of tune

  • @221b-l3t
    @221b-l3t 8 місяців тому

    Yeah unwatchable... they aren't slightly out of tune.

  • @ktyuiytr
    @ktyuiytr 7 місяців тому

    But guitar has tone button. You should use it. Example sound is muddy and dull then just use tone button.

  • @USMarine75
    @USMarine75 Рік тому

    Worst explanation of what a PAF pickup is. Well maybe that’s what a “Paff” is. 😂

  • @joekelly9369
    @joekelly9369 3 місяці тому

    No 1 others are bright

  • @donkeevney
    @donkeevney 5 місяців тому

    All sound the same

  • @ALANRMOREY
    @ALANRMOREY 8 місяців тому

    Tune . Tune .tune dont be s.t.u.p.i.d.

  • @dickey335
    @dickey335 Рік тому +1

    It’s pronounced “pea-ay-ef” not “paff”. 👍😉

    • @Dad-Gad
      @Dad-Gad Рік тому

      Not it isn't , nobody said you had to pronounce it that way ever .

  • @waterforlife1968
    @waterforlife1968 7 місяців тому

    Tune your guitars before making a video.

  • @Cinnemax77
    @Cinnemax77 3 місяці тому

    Wow dude that sounds like shit

  • @ronaldgoebel2174
    @ronaldgoebel2174 Рік тому +2

    Be nice if you were IN TUNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @peterm3964
    @peterm3964 11 місяців тому +1

    Learn how to tune up .