Obviously the guy on the right told the bearded guy prior to the video… “mate, please talk over me whenever I begin speaking”…and bearded guy says, “no problem”.
There is no Kona this year. Because it would win again haha. Their geometry is the same for like 5 years and still goes! It shows who sets the trends still.
Just got my big trail 400 as I was going under 1000 and I'm amazed it's not in this ranking, it's just better than line T3 on all fronts maybe apart from forks (Merida has alloy forks, line seems to be Steele?) Better frame geometry, it just screams "DESIGNED IN GERMANY" not like others: in Indonesia. 😅
I've just bought a Bizango (not the Pro version featured here) for £750 off the back of the reviews MBR have done in previous years. I must admit I've not ridden it yet as I am fitting some upgrades (dropper seatpost & brakes) but so far so good! Thank you for the education you have provided me over the years of reading your magazine and online.
I think its fantastic that this review only focuses on the brands that offer real value. Some of the big US brands are appalling value like a freewheel on a £500-600 hardtail and its good that the frankly awful Decathlon bikes don't get a mention either. While their road bikes maybe very good they haven't really got the hang of mountain bikes and there was a recall on the Rockriders because of very weak frames. The bikes featured here seem to punch above their weight. The Carrera, Voodoo and Calibre brands are shop brands and from one I understand many of those recently have been made by Insera Sena who own the Polygon and Marin brands. It's the big bike manufacturer of Indonesia. They are probably the best value manufacturer of the moment. I think lots of brands have used them like Kona, Saracen, Scott and I'm sure many more.
Thank you for an informed & insightful comparo. At 70something I should know better, but having been acting demented on pedal bikes since the 1980s it's probably not gonna happen... Thanks to you I'm about to score the Line T3 but the 29" option -a little buddy for my cherished Scott YZ1: now 20 years old and still crispy! 😊👍
I have a Scandal as a second back-up bike. Its cheap, cheerful and rides really well. My wheels and fork are an upgrade over stock, but have made it into a confident winter bike. I love it.
On the Bizango - you cant upgrade the Rockshox 35 with a better damper unless you go after market. Although its got 35mm stanchions the other Rockshox 35mm dampers dont fit as internally its much smaller with having thicker stanctions. Hence any upgrades are limited and quite expensive. It's basically a beefed up Recon.
Good video, nice to see your opinions on these bikes. I have an On One Scandal GX with the Rockshox 35 and think it rides fine but I guess it's about perspective. My previous bike was a 2010 Cannondale RZ120 and before that a 2007 Giant Terrago. I am the sort of person who drove my last car just as I got it for 6 years before I even noticed that I had reach/rake adjustment on the steering wheel.
The 29er version of the Calibre is only £100 more and also has (as well as the 29's) 4 pot Guide-T brakes! Its just a pity the cassette has a big cog of only 42 teeth whereas the Voodoo goes upto 51, even (maybe) 46 teeth would have made a difference! If only we could mate the 2 bikes together?
After seeing this i realized how good of a deal I got on my Allebike Mb31 royal that i paid roughly 750£. It has good geometry, came with a dropper and a rockshox revelation fork
I don't do any major jumping just whatever lumps are in the road😅 and a lot of smoother trails which bike would you recommend. I mean of this group which would you recommend for my type of writing
Thanks for the review guys, got a question though. You say the Caliber is more a more capable bike for MTB but other than slightly longer reach, smaller wheels with fatter tires and maybe the 10mm more fork travel, is there any other reason? I'd love to know as the Bizango Pro is a good bit cheaper on a deal I found and has relatively high quality budget components too. Can you ride it hard like the Caliber and still be capable? I say this as a novice to MTB but want to know if I can push it a bit in future down some rougher terrain and maybe even do some jumps one day but not aiming for big airs.
So out of the box the Calibre outperforms the Voodoo up and down, but not over longer distances on smoother terrain. With a dropper post and fatter tyres the voodoo would be almost as good on rough, technical terrain, but better on smooth singletrack and xc rides.
Can I get someones opinion, I've recently become a dad and have the bod to prove it. I miss riding and I only ever bought entry level bikes in the past. I have the voodoo hoodoo 2011/12 model and it was a great bike but I'm now fancying the bizango pro to get me excited and out there again. Halfords currently offer the 25% trade in. Is this a no brainer?
I would check out some of the deals on Chain Reaction right now. The Vitus Sentier models and Ragleys are heavily discounted and you could probably get an extra £100 for your old bike on marketplace. As they say at the end these are proper hardcore hardtails and will get appreciative comments at the bike park. I’m a moderately serious MTBer and this year I got a Ragley Big Al 1.0. Absolutely love it.
I am 140kg, lost 10kg by going up the gym. I've also started cycling again but looking for a bike as a heavy rider currently that is suitable for the South Downs. What do people suggest budget £0 to £1,500 (but only if I have to spend that much)
Sorry guys, but after 8 years with my scott scale hd 2x10 chain was dropped only once, and immediately i put it back from the handlebar using the lever, can't understand the problem with polygon🤔perhaps a design flaw?usually the 2x have some extra extensions in and out for this reason, nice video thanks 😃👍🤟
I am having a dilemma with which bike to buy. I am looking at Commencal Meta HT AM Ride Dirt vs Trek Roscoe 7. Both coming at 1700 AUD. If you have any suggestion. Please comment below. Thanks, in advance.
I know there frame's are all made in China, taiwan,indonesia,all over seas,maybe canyon are made in USA,figure I will start with a walmart special,with Shimano components for shifting,don't need to spend 2000 dollars on an oversea manufactured mountain bike.hope those chinese carbon frames hold up for the big spenders.
Completely new to mountain biking but was looking to purchase the calibre but im a bit unsure about the 27.5 wheels as ive read this size is a little dated excuse my ignorance as a complete novice, im 5ft 10 , would i be better spending the extra and getting the 29" version
At the time, i think the cheapest Nukeproof was above our £1,000 ceiling, while the Ragleys weren't available. Ragley has won its category in previous years.
@@MBRmagazine sure they do legit yob and new ebikes from Vitus came up it would be a lose if they gone there is a market for afordable bikes with great specs
Love the world Budget. It should mean 100 to 200 anything above that is getting expensive and anything over 250 expensive and 300+ is extreme luxury so they start off here at nearly 700. Budget is an interesting word here. As in you have no concept of budget.
@MBRmagazine All of them and if you find it breaks in under a year or 2 you can get it replaced or repaired. Have you been to the UK before? What part is breaking for you? Is it the welds? The video only had cheap stock footage. I have never yet in my life seen a broken mtb but I'm only 45 and I'm sure it can happen.
We are based in the UK, we shot the footage, and we tested the bikes. You still haven't shown us a bike for under £200 that'll survive proper MTB trails. The warranty will only cover manufacturing defects - stuff breaking from being ridden will likely be classed as wear and tear. If we thought it made sense to spend £200 on a new mountain bike, we would tell people that.
@MBRmagazine there are many many many maybe up to hundreds of mtb under 200 most are complete cheap junk sure. I don't mean break but are poor quality. But some from 150 to 250 have aluminium frame disc brakes, decent shifting and front suspension. It's almost like you could make a video of the best bikes that are as the dictionary defines budget as inexpensive range. You could call it the best budget bikes. What an amazing idea like what is the best in the budget range. Or you could be rich entitled and discontinued from reality where budget is 700 to 1000 quid here in the UK that's used car money. And say something smug like if you can find something under 700 that last longer than 10 minutes. Assuming you are not a professional world class Olympic rider you need to pull that silver spoon out and look around the average bike in uk is a couple hundred. That's average not budget.
My bet for HT of 2023 under 1000£ would be Merida big trail 400, it outclasses that shamelessly ugly calibre t3 27 by lightyears lol, better geometry, build, materials, features (proper cable management inside frame, we are in 2023) etc... I'm just stunned it didn't appear in this ranking at all and second of all how could you give 10 to a bike with such obvious flaws is beyond me? You had no issues taking points off for smaller things in previous bikes yet somehow line t3 11/10 what a bullshit
So your best hardtail under £1000 would be a bike with an SRP of £1200? Sure, the Merida looks great, but it's outside the price range. Also, we're Intrigued to know what the obvious flaws are on the Calibre?
Materials/features? Yes 29 inch tyres. But 740mm bars, 1x10 speed, Tektro brakes and Suntour forks - nothing wrong with these but some may feel they're a downgrade!
Calibre hasn’t received stock yet of the new Line models. You can input your email on one of their retail sites and they’ll notify you when stock arrives.
one second they say you can ride a hardtail hard, then the other they say plus tires makes it so you can see without having your eyes rattled out of your skull, hardtails suck just say it
Which bike is your favourite out of the test?
Why marin san quentin not include?😢
Carrera Fury for me
I have the Jamis Highpoint A2 , Amazing hardtail i love it
None of them. I’d rather have a Ragley or a nukeproof
I am whit Comencal Meta HT 2017
Obviously the guy on the right told the bearded guy prior to the video… “mate, please talk over me whenever I begin speaking”…and bearded guy says, “no problem”.
😂😂😂
The constant interjections were super annoying!
😂😂😂 agreed!
I follow this channel for 10 years now and every year I wait for Hardtail Of The Year test. Great job guys 👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks Joe. Thanks for coming along for the ride all these years!
There is no Kona this year. Because it would win again haha. Their geometry is the same for like 5 years and still goes! It shows who sets the trends still.
Yeh most of these just look so ugly as well compared to Konas
I have been riding full suss for years but a just bought a Merida Big Trail 700 and I am loving it hardtails for the win.
Just got my big trail 400 as I was going under 1000 and I'm amazed it's not in this ranking, it's just better than line T3 on all fronts maybe apart from forks (Merida has alloy forks, line seems to be Steele?) Better frame geometry, it just screams "DESIGNED IN GERMANY" not like others: in Indonesia. 😅
I've just bought a Bizango (not the Pro version featured here) for £750 off the back of the reviews MBR have done in previous years. I must admit I've not ridden it yet as I am fitting some upgrades (dropper seatpost & brakes) but so far so good! Thank you for the education you have provided me over the years of reading your magazine and online.
Nice one! Hope you enjoy the Bizango 👍
I think its fantastic that this review only focuses on the brands that offer real value. Some of the big US brands are appalling value like a freewheel on a £500-600 hardtail and its good that the frankly awful Decathlon bikes don't get a mention either. While their road bikes maybe very good they haven't really got the hang of mountain bikes and there was a recall on the Rockriders because of very weak frames. The bikes featured here seem to punch above their weight. The Carrera, Voodoo and Calibre brands are shop brands and from one I understand many of those recently have been made by Insera Sena who own the Polygon and Marin brands. It's the big bike manufacturer of Indonesia. They are probably the best value manufacturer of the moment. I think lots of brands have used them like Kona, Saracen, Scott and I'm sure many more.
Thank you for an informed & insightful comparo. At 70something I should know better, but having been acting demented on pedal bikes since the 1980s it's probably not gonna happen...
Thanks to you I'm about to score the Line T3 but the 29" option -a little buddy for my cherished Scott YZ1: now 20 years old and still crispy! 😊👍
Fantastic to hear you’re still shredding at 70! 🤘
@@MBRmagazine Uhm...I didn't actually say still shredding, but let's settle for 'still having fun'! 😆
Ragley Big Al
I have a Scandal as a second back-up bike. Its cheap, cheerful and rides really well. My wheels and fork are an upgrade over stock, but have made it into a confident winter bike. I love it.
Sick to see swinley getting some activity it’s changed so much and come so far
On the Bizango - you cant upgrade the Rockshox 35 with a better damper unless you go after market. Although its got 35mm stanchions the other Rockshox 35mm dampers dont fit as internally its much smaller with having thicker stanctions. Hence any upgrades are limited and quite expensive. It's basically a beefed up Recon.
Ah, good info, Thanks.
Can you upgrade the Recon dampers easier, or are all cheaper budget Rockshox basically non-upgradable?
@Stu411 Not entirely sure. I would imagine it's quite limited and third party stuff only though.
Good video, nice to see your opinions on these bikes. I have an On One Scandal GX with the Rockshox 35 and think it rides fine but I guess it's about perspective. My previous bike was a 2010 Cannondale RZ120 and before that a 2007 Giant Terrago. I am the sort of person who drove my last car just as I got it for 6 years before I even noticed that I had reach/rake adjustment on the steering wheel.
I started mountain biking on a full sus Carrera as a kid in the early 2000s loved that bike
The 29er version of the Calibre is only £100 more and also has (as well as the 29's) 4 pot Guide-T brakes!
Its just a pity the cassette has a big cog of only 42 teeth whereas the Voodoo goes upto 51, even (maybe) 46 teeth would have made a difference!
If only we could mate the 2 bikes together?
After seeing this i realized how good of a deal I got on my Allebike Mb31 royal that i paid roughly 750£. It has good geometry, came with a dropper and a rockshox revelation fork
Great content, well done MBR
Thanks Chris!
I ride an eastern alpaca. Except for dropper post it was great right out of the box. $400 usd complete
The Vitus Nucleus VR has been as low as £330. It was amazing value for that.
I don't do any major jumping just whatever lumps are in the road😅 and a lot of smoother trails which bike would you recommend. I mean of this group which would you recommend for my type of writing
Thanks for the review guys, got a question though. You say the Caliber is more a more capable bike for MTB but other than slightly longer reach, smaller wheels with fatter tires and maybe the 10mm more fork travel, is there any other reason? I'd love to know as the Bizango Pro is a good bit cheaper on a deal I found and has relatively high quality budget components too. Can you ride it hard like the Caliber and still be capable? I say this as a novice to MTB but want to know if I can push it a bit in future down some rougher terrain and maybe even do some jumps one day but not aiming for big airs.
So out of the box the Calibre outperforms the Voodoo up and down, but not over longer distances on smoother terrain. With a dropper post and fatter tyres the voodoo would be almost as good on rough, technical terrain, but better on smooth singletrack and xc rides.
Will you also do a sub 3k Hardtail test?
Can I get someones opinion, I've recently become a dad and have the bod to prove it. I miss riding and I only ever bought entry level bikes in the past. I have the voodoo hoodoo 2011/12 model and it was a great bike but I'm now fancying the bizango pro to get me excited and out there again. Halfords currently offer the 25% trade in. Is this a no brainer?
I would check out some of the deals on Chain Reaction right now. The Vitus Sentier models and Ragleys are heavily discounted and you could probably get an extra £100 for your old bike on marketplace. As they say at the end these are proper hardcore hardtails and will get appreciative comments at the bike park. I’m a moderately serious MTBer and this year I got a Ragley Big Al 1.0. Absolutely love it.
I am 140kg, lost 10kg by going up the gym. I've also started cycling again but looking for a bike as a heavy rider currently that is suitable for the South Downs. What do people suggest budget £0 to £1,500 (but only if I have to spend that much)
Great work and keep it up!
Sorry guys, but after 8 years with my scott scale hd 2x10 chain was dropped only once, and immediately i put it back from the handlebar using the lever, can't understand the problem with polygon🤔perhaps a design flaw?usually the 2x have some extra extensions in and out for this reason, nice video thanks 😃👍🤟
You are either incredibly lucky, or you have the smoothest trails on the planet! ;-)
I have 2x 10. Rarely drop a chain. Friend has a 1x 12. Have seen his chain drop right after advising I should go 1x. Yep marketing is good
I am having a dilemma with which bike to buy. I am looking at Commencal Meta HT AM Ride Dirt vs Trek Roscoe 7. Both coming at 1700 AUD. If you have any suggestion. Please comment below. Thanks, in advance.
How does the 2023 winner compare with the winner of 2022, Kona Mahuna?
Good video 👌🏻😊
Ps. Beardy fella. Haven't you heard it's rude to talk over people? Let the man speak.
how would these compare to the trek ones in these two categories?
I know there frame's are all made in China, taiwan,indonesia,all over seas,maybe canyon are made in USA,figure I will start with a walmart special,with Shimano components for shifting,don't need to spend 2000 dollars on an oversea manufactured mountain bike.hope those chinese carbon frames hold up for the big spenders.
Nothing wrong with Far Eastern manufacturing. 95% of high end bikes are made in Taiwan or China.
Completely new to mountain biking but was looking to purchase the calibre but im a bit unsure about the 27.5 wheels as ive read this size is a little dated excuse my ignorance as a complete novice, im 5ft 10 , would i be better spending the extra and getting the 29" version
The difference with the Calibre is that it uses larger volume 27.5in tyres that provide way more comfort and control than narrower tyres.
I'd love to get the Carrera Fury, but the nearest Halfords is 4000 miles away.🥴
That’s quite a round trip!
Why was the Xtrada 5 used in this test, when both the Xtrada 6 and 7 are under $1000 (USD) and have 1x drivetrains?
They said they tested what they were given, which was the 5.
Great video, but in what world are we living, when 1000£ for a bicycle is considered BUDGET?
Thanks!
No love for the Talon?
Paid £649 for the Vitus Sentier 29 vr
No Rocky Mountain Growler?? Come on
No voodoo bizango???
Only the Bizango Pro as we increased the price limit.
Can you use the Xtrada(XC) as a trail bike on rough terrain?
As long as your body can take it! Sure
@@MBRmagazine To be honest, I'm more worried about the bike faliing apart more than my body, I guess these parts will hold up until they don't ;)
I also left out a tiny detail that I weigh 140kg LOL!
They still spec 8 speed..?
Re-designing a bike is not free.
Of course, but getting the geometry right doesn’t add extra cost. That’s the point we’re making.
Is the Calibre available in the United States?
We don’t believe so.
Where is the giant xtc slr 29 video
We haven’t done a video on that bike, just a written review on the website.
No nukeproof scout or Ragleys? Sacrilege!
At the time, i think the cheapest Nukeproof was above our £1,000 ceiling, while the Ragleys weren't available. Ragley has won its category in previous years.
Is Vitul realy go out of busines??
Too early to say, but we’d be very surprised if the Vitus brand didn’t survive.
@@MBRmagazine sure they do legit yob and new ebikes from Vitus came up it would be a lose if they gone there is a market for afordable bikes with great specs
Love the world Budget. It should mean 100 to 200 anything above that is getting expensive and anything over 250 expensive and 300+ is extreme luxury so they start off here at nearly 700. Budget is an interesting word here. As in you have no concept of budget.
Show us a MTB that costs less than £200 that will last more than ten minutes on proper trails.
@MBRmagazine All of them and if you find it breaks in under a year or 2 you can get it replaced or repaired. Have you been to the UK before? What part is breaking for you? Is it the welds? The video only had cheap stock footage. I have never yet in my life seen a broken mtb but I'm only 45 and I'm sure it can happen.
We are based in the UK, we shot the footage, and we tested the bikes. You still haven't shown us a bike for under £200 that'll survive proper MTB trails. The warranty will only cover manufacturing defects - stuff breaking from being ridden will likely be classed as wear and tear. If we thought it made sense to spend £200 on a new mountain bike, we would tell people that.
@MBRmagazine there are many many many maybe up to hundreds of mtb under 200 most are complete cheap junk sure. I don't mean break but are poor quality. But some from 150 to 250 have aluminium frame disc brakes, decent shifting and front suspension. It's almost like you could make a video of the best bikes that are as the dictionary defines budget as inexpensive range. You could call it the best budget bikes. What an amazing idea like what is the best in the budget range. Or you could be rich entitled and discontinued from reality where budget is 700 to 1000 quid here in the UK that's used car money. And say something smug like if you can find something under 700 that last longer than 10 minutes. Assuming you are not a professional world class Olympic rider you need to pull that silver spoon out and look around the average bike in uk is a couple hundred. That's average not budget.
Blocking my reply hmm
Calibre is 1200 not sure u should class.member pricing
And membership only costs £5. No brainier really.
@@MBRmagazineah ok. Great vid btw
Thanks!
@@MBRmagazine that puts it at £1004.99.
exposed gear cable, wtf are they thinking
dude interrupts
My bet for HT of 2023 under 1000£ would be Merida big trail 400, it outclasses that shamelessly ugly calibre t3 27 by lightyears lol, better geometry, build, materials, features (proper cable management inside frame, we are in 2023) etc... I'm just stunned it didn't appear in this ranking at all and second of all how could you give 10 to a bike with such obvious flaws is beyond me? You had no issues taking points off for smaller things in previous bikes yet somehow line t3 11/10 what a bullshit
So your best hardtail under £1000 would be a bike with an SRP of £1200? Sure, the Merida looks great, but it's outside the price range. Also, we're Intrigued to know what the obvious flaws are on the Calibre?
Materials/features?
Yes 29 inch tyres.
But 740mm bars, 1x10 speed, Tektro brakes and Suntour forks - nothing wrong with these but some may feel they're a downgrade!
out of stock
Calibre hasn’t received stock yet of the new Line models. You can input your email on one of their retail sites and they’ll notify you when stock arrives.
one second they say you can ride a hardtail hard, then the other they say plus tires makes it so you can see without having your eyes rattled out of your skull, hardtails suck just say it
It’s all about price points. Yes, with a bigger budget we’d recommend a full-suspension bike, but under £1k hardtails are still the best option.
hardtails are a compromised mess, not simple like a full ridgid and not comfortable like a full sus, dont waste your time
😂
Never heard this before
Ok. Try getting a good full suspension bike at the pricepoint these bikes are at.