Selim II's death isn't fully certain btw, there's a chance that he quitted drinking for religious reasons and he died after falling from dizziness for NOT being intoxicated, because he was unused to walk without alcohol, which is even more tragic/amusing
One could argue he slipped from being intoxicated, in that he wouldn't have been dizzy if he hadn't been in withdrawal from intoxication. No intoxication, no dizziness
I think Osman II's and Ibrahim I's deaths can be counted as execution, rather than assassination. They weren't secret, to my knowledge. And Bayezid I died while kidnapped, but his actual cause of death is still disputed. Some sources claim he drank the poison in his ring, while some claim he died due to depression after his humiliating defeat at the hand of Timur. Also, fun fact: Strangulation was the go-to method for killing dynasty members, since spilling royal blood was seen as taboo. Strangulation ensured that their blood wouldn't be spilt.
I love the idea of comparing Janissaries to the Praetorian Guard! Also, Selim III had an interesting death for a deposed sultan. He was deposed by the Janissaries (surprising right?) in 1807 for his reforms, including the establishment of Nizam-i-Cedid (a modernized army). He was replaced with Mustafa IV, a Janissary puppet. However, most of the Empire was loyal to Selim, so a counter-coup was launched in 1808 to reinstate Selim. Alemdar Mustafa Pasha, a reformist general, led an Ottoman army to Kostantiniyye to replace Mustafa IV, who upon hearing of this army, tried to have Selim III and a young Mahmud II assassinated to leave no claimants. Selim was stabbed and/or strangled in Topkapi, while Mahmud was saved by a servant girl, and barely escaped (look at below comment for additional detail, its a fascinating story!). Alemdar Mustafa Pasha would later break into the city, and hearing of Selim's assassination, make Mahmud ruler, who would later lay the ground work for the Tanzimat Era. Essentially, Selim III had an incredibly impactful death. As it directly led to the reformist rule of Mahmud II (sometimes called the "Peter the Great of Turkey").
Rescue of Mahmut II and making him Sultan was also very action-packed and last-second event. When Alemdar Mustafa Pasha came to Topkapı Palace with his army to restore Selim III to the throne, Sultan Mustafa's supporters killed him. Pasha, who saw the funeral and was sure that Selim III was dead, he ordered Selim's nephew Mahmut to be brought. Mustafa's followers entered Mahmut's apartment before the Pasha's men could reach him, but a servant girl slowed them down by throwing ashes in their faces, and at the last moment the Aghas took young Mahmut up the chimney to the roof. Later, Mahmut jumped from one roof to another and reached Alemdar Pasha's location and declared as new sultan there
If one starts in 1066 it is accident upon freak accidents in th first 100 years including Henry I = "Surfit of Lamprey"(!), William I (the Conqueror) = saddle pommel to the stomach and William II = hunting accident arrow.
@@a.bastianwiik5592 Something like 15% of all European rulers died violently at the hands of a family member or someone else who was trying to usurp their power. Ottomans saw that and said 'rookie numbers' lol.
I would suggest doing a video like this on how each ruler of China died, but that would probably be a massive project. Maybe a series of videos going dynasty-by-dynasty might work, though?
It's cool that you've branched out in your history oriented content over the years, from solely timelines of wars, empires, and regions through history, to synopses and recountings of historical events. It's been a good ten years of emperorlution.
Suggestions for other empires: - Holy Roman Empire - Dynastic China - Ancient Egypt (may be too difficult to find cause of death tho) - Russia, perhaps starting with the Kievan Rus - Mongalian Khanates - Persia (Archaeminid, Parthian, etc.) - Babylonia/Assyria (Mesopotamia in general, may be as difficult as egypt)
@@joefrew1614 Ooooo, good one. Ive always been interested in pre roman celts and britons myself, but finding leadership among them may be difficult. Even so, the anglo-saxon and jute migrations, as well as the viking conquests, would all be interesting to see how they affected leadership over time.
-gain the throne after a brutal civil war, secure the asian borders by manhandling Safavids & Mamluks, prepare for a full scale conquest of Europe just to pass away due to a malpractice of a carbuncle. Selim I's death is just as sad as Timur's prior to his China campaign
Why is Timur's death sad? He accomplished much during his reign and his cruelty and vindictiveness was legendary; I highly doubt even those who admired him greatly mourned his death.
I know it would be harder both in terms of pronunciation and in terms of list length, but doing all Emperors of a unified China might be cool. Also HRE, Japan, Korea, Thailand, France, England, and any other long-running monarchies would be cool.
I think a breakdown and comparison of causes of death for Chinese Emperors would be most interesting, as their imperial institutions compare well with Roman institutions in terms of scale and scope
yes compare those two groups, I would also love for you to do a video on mamluks in general since they are rarely talked about but were an important part of Muslim armies
The reason why the sultans didn't get deposed as often as the emperors is fairly simple - they had an established dynastic line, meaning rando generals couldn't just take the throne willy-nilly. More often than not, in the 17th-18th century a situation arose where the sultan did something that pissed off the janissaries, so they made their next younger brother or cousin (whom they had literally stored away like reserve cutlery in a sort of house arrest called kafes) a sultan instead.
The HRE and Russia both make good options as well as both claimed to be the successors of Rome and have intresting imperial histories especially the hre
Just the things that I find interesting: The means of execution of Ottoman Sultans and Princes follow the traditional turkic practice of being strangled with a bowstring. Selim III is the only Sultan to have been executed with a blade. Abdulaziz's autopsy revealed that he commited suicide, though the circumstances were suspicious which in turn made the then Sultan Murad V who already had a mental health condition to suffer a mental breakdown. Murad V was then deposed after only 93 days in power. Murad IV was very staunchly against alcohol in his policy, but he himself is a well known drunkard who died because his body couldn't keep up with his alcoholism. There is an indication that Mehmed II was poisoned by his own son, Bayezid II. No Ottoman Sultans ever performed the Hajj/ Pilgrimage to Mecca (one of the five main commandments of Islam). The claimant Sultan Cem (Mehmed II's son) was the only one who was recorded to have performed the Hajj while he was sheltered by the Mamluks, and the closest legitimate Sultan to ever perform the Hajj was Osman II who probably used the pretext of Hajj to get away from Janissary control, but he was captured in Egypt and executed soon after without ever reaching the Hejaz.
What do you even do for Holy Roman Empire? I really hope not counting anyone before Otto II is a given. There’s also the issue of “King of the Romans”. Several rulers of the empire were elected but never coronated Emperor by the pope. Like Richard of Cornwall who was King of the Romans for 15 years.
Interesting with the one on the medical section because it really highlights the lack of understanding of medicine before the scientific revolution. In particular, gout is a condition which cannot be fatal. He may have had this, but he certainly did not die from it. Possibly it may have been a joint infection or something else which they use the term for, but gout itself could not have killed him.
Yeah how to qualify Suleiman is weird Like he was technically in a siege. But at the same time he basically died peacefully in his sleep of old age in his tent.
I also wonder if Russia would be a good one to do (they did proclaim themselves the Third Rome) also China's rulers might be an interesting one especially as they have quite a length going from the Xia dynasty starting in roughly 2070 BC (although the Imperial China period starts at 221 BC if you prefer) and the last Emperor is deposed in 1912 AD (although there is an Empire of China proclaimed from 1915-1916 and the Emperor is restored in Manchuria from 1934-1945).
Would definitely watch an HRE video for this series. You could also expand this series by including states that claimed to be the 3rd Rome. I'd also watch one comparing the Janissaries and Praetorians, or the Janissaries and other slave-soldier castes like the Mamelukes and the Habshi/Zenj of Mughal India (and other Muslim powers). Especially the Habshis given that the modern Siddhi can trace their heritage to them and East African mercenary groups.
@@joshuafrimpong244 I don’t think Spain is considered a 3rd Rome. Even if you go with “The Byzantine Emperor gave his title to the Spanish King,” I don’t recall Spain claiming itself as 3rd Rome. Russia and the HRE both did that at one point. I also ignore Mussolini’s claim because it was short lived and never lived up to the claim.
The Ottomans were very pragmatic about religion. They did not want non-Muslims to become Muslims, otherwise they would not be able to govern society with a divide-and-rule system and would not be able to collect the jizya tax. They even settled thousands of Sephardic Jews in the major Greek cities so that Greeks would not be the majority in the cities (in the 1870s, more than half of Salonika was Jewish).
Only people in history to be caliphs, great Khans and ceasar of the Romans. Also, no, the Ottomans never claimed to be a Roman state. The claim is that the Ottomans were the rulers of all romans. To understand this point, read the following loudly: Roman ruler, ruler of the romans, Roman ruler, ruler of the romans. Did you get the difference?
Man I love my country getting exposure by a foreign channel that curries our attention Also kudos on warning about battlefields. An unmoraled UA-camr would not care about it and would garner off any comment interaction.
Simple video for this week since I just got back from vacation, but fun! Would you want to see this for other historical nations/empires?
How every Polish King died?
Yes. To every question…. YES! 🙌 I’m here for it
How most Chinese Emperors and Kings died?
Mustafa III: Light Yagami says: Sayonara!
I would love this approach used for every empire and definitely would like to see a Praetorian/ Janissary comparison
Selim II's death isn't fully certain btw, there's a chance that he quitted drinking for religious reasons and he died after falling from dizziness for NOT being intoxicated, because he was unused to walk without alcohol, which is even more tragic/amusing
Reality really just be more poetic than fiction
One could argue he slipped from being intoxicated, in that he wouldn't have been dizzy if he hadn't been in withdrawal from intoxication. No intoxication, no dizziness
@@staalman1226So, you’re saying he slipped from NOT being intoxicated
That sounds like something that has never happened in the history of humanity, it doesn't even make any sense when you think about it
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"Sultan dies"
His children: 👀
holy shat
Battle Royal time
@@ffarkasm*AND HERE COMES SULEIMON WITH THE STEEL CHAIR*
I really wonder what sultans thought when they looked upon their children knowing that so many of them die at each other's hands.
They killed them sometimes@@dlxmarks
I think Osman II's and Ibrahim I's deaths can be counted as execution, rather than assassination. They weren't secret, to my knowledge. And Bayezid I died while kidnapped, but his actual cause of death is still disputed. Some sources claim he drank the poison in his ring, while some claim he died due to depression after his humiliating defeat at the hand of Timur.
Also, fun fact: Strangulation was the go-to method for killing dynasty members, since spilling royal blood was seen as taboo. Strangulation ensured that their blood wouldn't be spilt.
I love the idea of comparing Janissaries to the Praetorian Guard!
Also, Selim III had an interesting death for a deposed sultan. He was deposed by the Janissaries (surprising right?) in 1807 for his reforms, including the establishment of Nizam-i-Cedid (a modernized army). He was replaced with Mustafa IV, a Janissary puppet. However, most of the Empire was loyal to Selim, so a counter-coup was launched in 1808 to reinstate Selim. Alemdar Mustafa Pasha, a reformist general, led an Ottoman army to Kostantiniyye to replace Mustafa IV, who upon hearing of this army, tried to have Selim III and a young Mahmud II assassinated to leave no claimants. Selim was stabbed and/or strangled in Topkapi, while Mahmud was saved by a servant girl, and barely escaped (look at below comment for additional detail, its a fascinating story!). Alemdar Mustafa Pasha would later break into the city, and hearing of Selim's assassination, make Mahmud ruler, who would later lay the ground work for the Tanzimat Era.
Essentially, Selim III had an incredibly impactful death. As it directly led to the reformist rule of Mahmud II (sometimes called the "Peter the Great of Turkey").
Makes near sense
Rescue of Mahmut II and making him Sultan was also very action-packed and last-second event. When Alemdar Mustafa Pasha came to Topkapı Palace with his army to restore Selim III to the throne, Sultan Mustafa's supporters killed him. Pasha, who saw the funeral and was sure that Selim III was dead, he ordered Selim's nephew Mahmut to be brought. Mustafa's followers entered Mahmut's apartment before the Pasha's men could reach him, but a servant girl slowed them down by throwing ashes in their faces, and at the last moment the Aghas took young Mahmut up the chimney to the roof. Later, Mahmut jumped from one roof to another and reached Alemdar Pasha's location and declared as new sultan there
@@Spartan_Disiplin Ottoman politics in the 19th century were very interesting 😁
And the Varangian Guard where it actually seemed to do its job without deposing emperors.
@@calvinyahn2840 If they were paid a good amount; Varangians were mercenaries.
+1 to comparing the Praetorian Gaurd & the Jannisaries
yes plz
Kings of England would probably produce a much different breakdown
I love political jokes
If one starts in 1066 it is accident upon freak accidents in th first 100 years including Henry I = "Surfit of Lamprey"(!), William I (the Conqueror) = saddle pommel to the stomach and William II = hunting accident arrow.
@@a.bastianwiik5592 Something like 15% of all European rulers died violently at the hands of a family member or someone else who was trying to usurp their power. Ottomans saw that and said 'rookie numbers' lol.
I, for one, would love to see a video comparing the praetorians to the janissaries.
You make great ideas AND comments!
True but in a battle, the Janissary stomps.
I would suggest doing a video like this on how each ruler of China died, but that would probably be a massive project. Maybe a series of videos going dynasty-by-dynasty might work, though?
Any video talking about the HRE would be great... Not many know its history or its leadership.
Jannisaries also have a similar role with Samurai. Period both grown and collapse thanks to them
6:24 HRE would be interesting but other states are fine.
It's cool that you've branched out in your history oriented content over the years, from solely timelines of wars, empires, and regions through history, to synopses and recountings of historical events. It's been a good ten years of emperorlution.
Half the HRE emperors will have 'jaw too big' as their death cause
Charles II of Spain - "having the same great-grandma in many lines" ;)
Charles II: For literally existing in the first place/not supposed to be born at all (due to being inbred to oblivion)
I like this style of video, would enjoy seeing others tackling different empires. It's a fun way to get a few interesting tidbits I'd never know about
A pretty big difference between the Janissaries and Praetorians was the method of recruitment you know
"Well clearly you need the Silver Crystal in order to make your millennium long reign a stable success on the Moon. Duh." - Luna.
Suggestions for other empires:
- Holy Roman Empire
- Dynastic China
- Ancient Egypt (may be too difficult to find cause of death tho)
- Russia, perhaps starting with the Kievan Rus
- Mongalian Khanates
- Persia (Archaeminid, Parthian, etc.)
- Babylonia/Assyria (Mesopotamia in general, may be as difficult as egypt)
HRE and Russia would be great in terms of Roman successors/claimed successors
@@Pastafari4 Agreed! Or perhaps even Greek/Macedonian leaders, precursors to the Roman Empire and the main inspiration for Roman conquests.
England, Scotland & Wales (and all the earlier predecessor kingdoms before them)
@@joefrew1614 Ooooo, good one. Ive always been interested in pre roman celts and britons myself, but finding leadership among them may be difficult.
Even so, the anglo-saxon and jute migrations, as well as the viking conquests, would all be interesting to see how they affected leadership over time.
@@ImaDogDude I know really? There were so many different eras in English and British histroy, between the Romans, Celts and Germanic peoples.
3:59 - shouldn't a one more slide be here?
-gain the throne after a brutal civil war, secure the asian borders by manhandling Safavids & Mamluks, prepare for a full scale conquest of Europe just to pass away due to a malpractice of a carbuncle. Selim I's death is just as sad as Timur's prior to his China campaign
Why is Timur's death sad? He accomplished much during his reign and his cruelty and vindictiveness was legendary; I highly doubt even those who admired him greatly mourned his death.
@@albaniaalban sad in the sense we didn't get to see him fulfilling his prime campaign in an even match against Ming China
@@nenenindonu ah so the same as caesar dying the day he was to go to war with persia
I think the millions of people that would've died in the hypothetical conflict would've appreciated it never happening. @@nenenindonu
I know it would be harder both in terms of pronunciation and in terms of list length, but doing all Emperors of a unified China might be cool. Also HRE, Japan, Korea, Thailand, France, England, and any other long-running monarchies would be cool.
Janissaries vs Praetorian Guard = yes please
The Ottoman Empire is the biggest success and failure all at once.
funfact: As soon as he ascended the throne, Mehmet III had his 19 child brothers killed.
Mehmet III was crazy, it outraged people quite a bit when killed a dozen children like that. His son banned fratricide when he came to power.
yes!-your ideas of comparion the two body Grards and the Rulers of the HRE sound Good
I would love to see both the Preatorian/Jannasari comparisons and another of these videos with the HRE.
Comparison for the Jannisaries and Praetorian Guard would be neat
Hey Emperor Tigerstar. I have a video idea. Make the History of the Zulu Empire every year. if you cant do it, its fine.
Similar video about the HRE sounds interesting
I really hope you'll do the Holy Roman Emperors, there are some real bangers in there.
I think a breakdown and comparison of causes of death for Chinese Emperors would be most interesting, as their imperial institutions compare well with Roman institutions in terms of scale and scope
You forgot to put in the "Stroke" slide btw - nice video though
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yes compare those two groups, I would also love for you to do a video on mamluks in general since they are rarely talked about but were an important part of Muslim armies
i love the idea of comparing janisseries to the praetorian guard and would definitely watch it
Another vote for Praetorian/Janissaries comparison
"Should i" Yes, all of them.
Curious that among brothers of Ottoman emperors, fratricide was a very common cause of death.
That's actually an interesting series
Janissaries vs Varangian Guard makes more since than Praetorian
Huh, I was just thinking about what this video would look like.
Inb4 Tigerstar has a field day in the next map changes video.
Albania making their own Vatican City was not on my bingo card.
Yes to all the questions in the video
The reason why the sultans didn't get deposed as often as the emperors is fairly simple - they had an established dynastic line, meaning rando generals couldn't just take the throne willy-nilly. More often than not, in the 17th-18th century a situation arose where the sultan did something that pissed off the janissaries, so they made their next younger brother or cousin (whom they had literally stored away like reserve cutlery in a sort of house arrest called kafes) a sultan instead.
they didn't get to age 4 to unlock the great bombard fast enough v-v
The HRE and Russia both make good options as well as both claimed to be the successors of Rome and have intresting imperial histories especially the hre
Why has this man decided to make a sequel to his 4 years old videos? I certainly don't know
As a nurse dying out off stress is very relatable
I thought this would be chronological of how each Sultan died then at the end it would be tallied
Yeah, do the HRE next, then maybe go onto other claimants to the title of rome
Suleiman I died during the siege of Szigetvár. Which ended in a phyrric ottoman victory
Oh yes, yes, a thousand times yes
Just the things that I find interesting:
The means of execution of Ottoman Sultans and Princes follow the traditional turkic practice of being strangled with a bowstring.
Selim III is the only Sultan to have been executed with a blade.
Abdulaziz's autopsy revealed that he commited suicide, though the circumstances were suspicious which in turn made the then Sultan Murad V who already had a mental health condition to suffer a mental breakdown. Murad V was then deposed after only 93 days in power.
Murad IV was very staunchly against alcohol in his policy, but he himself is a well known drunkard who died because his body couldn't keep up with his alcoholism.
There is an indication that Mehmed II was poisoned by his own son, Bayezid II.
No Ottoman Sultans ever performed the Hajj/ Pilgrimage to Mecca (one of the five main commandments of Islam). The claimant Sultan Cem (Mehmed II's son) was the only one who was recorded to have performed the Hajj while he was sheltered by the Mamluks, and the closest legitimate Sultan to ever perform the Hajj was Osman II who probably used the pretext of Hajj to get away from Janissary control, but he was captured in Egypt and executed soon after without ever reaching the Hejaz.
You should do the Han Dynasty
What do you even do for Holy Roman Empire? I really hope not counting anyone before Otto II is a given.
There’s also the issue of “King of the Romans”. Several rulers of the empire were elected but never coronated Emperor by the pope. Like Richard of Cornwall who was King of the Romans for 15 years.
Very interesting
I think the list of czars (Russian emperors) could be fun. They did technically claim to be successors to Rome
Interesting with the one on the medical section because it really highlights the lack of understanding of medicine before the scientific revolution. In particular, gout is a condition which cannot be fatal. He may have had this, but he certainly did not die from it. Possibly it may have been a joint infection or something else which they use the term for, but gout itself could not have killed him.
Yeah how to qualify Suleiman is weird
Like he was technically in a siege.
But at the same time he basically died peacefully in his sleep of old age in his tent.
I love lord of the land
Another one in favor of comparing the janissaries to the praetorians
Would be cool if you looked at the HRE, England/Great Britain/UK and France
Maybe a video about Chinese Rulers?
Now make this video again but it’s for the brothers of the Sultan
I also wonder if Russia would be a good one to do (they did proclaim themselves the Third Rome) also China's rulers might be an interesting one especially as they have quite a length going from the Xia dynasty starting in roughly 2070 BC (although the Imperial China period starts at 221 BC if you prefer) and the last Emperor is deposed in 1912 AD (although there is an Empire of China proclaimed from 1915-1916 and the Emperor is restored in Manchuria from 1934-1945).
yes comparison plz with praetorian
3:58 is there a slide missing
Thanks to advancements in science, modern depositions are far less deadly
Want to make a multi hour video?
Do China
Sure the janisarries were interesting
I know this isn't Rome, but I would like to see England/Britain for comparison
Compare praetorions to janissaries and the varangian guard.
Chinese Emperors gotta have some wacky ones, surely
Yes paetorians vs janissaries
Make one on Japanese emperors or the Qing
Cem Sultan is son of Mehmed II, not a interregnum leader
I wanna suggest chinese emperors but which dynasty ?
How all Russian Tsars died next?
Remaking your videos for sure if your videos are outdated them why you can't remake the videos.
Whats carbuncle?
They say Abdülhamit I died when he heard Russian slayed everyone in a village
It was actually Ochakiv, one of the important cities of the Crimean Khanate at that time. Sultans never cared villages. :D
Yes id watch the comparison video
Compare the various Chinese dynasties
Would definitely watch an HRE video for this series. You could also expand this series by including states that claimed to be the 3rd Rome.
I'd also watch one comparing the Janissaries and Praetorians, or the Janissaries and other slave-soldier castes like the Mamelukes and the Habshi/Zenj of Mughal India (and other Muslim powers). Especially the Habshis given that the modern Siddhi can trace their heritage to them and East African mercenary groups.
Cem...
Hello, EmperorTiger, can you make the video "the opio war"?
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Could always go through the American Presidents as well. To some extent the United States claims a bit of Roman (Republican) heritage lol
Little known fact but deer throughout history have always had a high kill count , look at the state of Pennsylvania
You going to do other "3rd Romes:" HRE/Austria or Russia?
I personally would say Spain or Russia than the hre
@@joshuafrimpong244 I don’t think Spain is considered a 3rd Rome. Even if you go with “The Byzantine Emperor gave his title to the Spanish King,” I don’t recall Spain claiming itself as 3rd Rome. Russia and the HRE both did that at one point. I also ignore Mussolini’s claim because it was short lived and never lived up to the claim.
@@joshuafrimpong244How can you say Spain over the HRE that’s crazy.
@@tylerellis9097 The last Byzantine Emperor left in his will that his succesors would be Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain
@@tylerellis9097 Also the nephew of constantine, andreas, granted his titles to the Catholicmonarchs
Fell while *drunk*
That's not very Halal :^ )
The Ottomans were very pragmatic about religion. They did not want non-Muslims to become Muslims, otherwise they would not be able to govern society with a divide-and-rule system and would not be able to collect the jizya tax. They even settled thousands of Sephardic Jews in the major Greek cities so that Greeks would not be the majority in the cities (in the 1870s, more than half of Salonika was Jewish).
The Russian empire might be interesting.
That isn't how you pronounce scepticemia
Please include the Immortals of the Achaemenid Empire.
Russia
Praetorians and Jannisaries are basically the same thing.
What are Praetorians?
@@ArdaSReal Imperial Companion Bodyguards Handpicked By Emperor's Most Favored Legion turned Highest Bidding Court Turncoats
The Jannisaries had muskets.
Thane jannsiees were slave soldiers
@@shinsenshogun900 I assume you mean Roman Empires?
False. Real cause is that the massive turban broke their neck, a Grand Vizier friend told me, trust me bro
I'm disappointed - no jokes about death due to absurdly oversized turbans? :)
Only people in history to be caliphs, great Khans and ceasar of the Romans. Also, no, the Ottomans never claimed to be a Roman state. The claim is that the Ottomans were the rulers of all romans. To understand this point, read the following loudly: Roman ruler, ruler of the romans, Roman ruler, ruler of the romans. Did you get the difference?
Yes!
Man I love my country getting exposure by a foreign channel that curries our attention
Also kudos on warning about battlefields. An unmoraled UA-camr would not care about it and would garner off any comment interaction.