I totally agree with Mama Shay about Pascal. When things got real, he realized he’s not over his ex-girlfriend yet. But in my opinion, he probably wasn’t attracted to Joan.
Didn't things get real when he was one of top three guys? I wonder if his confession to Jessie prompted the Tahitian ceremony. It was so weird and out of place.
Whit and Ry… you are the BEST BEST BEST! My wife LOVED the shout out! She was shocked! What a great way to start her Birthday weekend. Thank you sooo much!
Wow! I was so surprised to see you guys first this morning! I have a lot of respect for Pascal and his gentle honesty. Then, I was amazed and loved Joan's grace for where he was coming from. Joan shows a lot of grace and understanding regarding the men and their feelings. I am still hesitant about Chock, but I hope he is genuine and not playing like Devin. It lifted my heart to see Mama Shay with you, but whether she is there or not, I love you two! ☺❤❤❤
She sure didn't show grace to Mark . It was all about " me " and didn't give a crap about what he went through , coming to terms with his wife and hummingbird .
I am also the same age, Mama Shay, and had my honeymoon in the Four Seasons' Presidential Suite in Oct 2010 in Bora Bora (130 miles from Moorea, Tahiti). It was gorgeous weather (80F by day, 74F at night) with the most stunning blue water, ~ and never, in my life, have I seen so many stars. I'm not surprised Joan mentioned the stars... And, @7:52 Whatever will we think of you? We LOVE you girls! You always make me laugh out loud! Haven't watched a single episode of the Bachelor/ette in YEARS, thanks to you!
Chock gives me the ick. I have many red flags for him. and another here because he was only using ONE HAND on the wheel, while driving that fast. Those things can easily flip. He was irresponsible cuz he was too focused on touching her... more boundary issues. But I LOVE you Ladies, you are HILARIOUS! BESY REVIEW> LOVE TO SEE MOMMA SHAY Pascals kids signed him up for the show...
There is a Glamour magazine on line article where they interview Pascal . What he says about Chock is hysterical. Pascal talks about the bowling date … and how he felt about the way Choke acted. It led me to believe that Pascal was definitely not a fan of Chock … the men tell all might be more spicy 🌶️ that l thought.
Chock's got crazy eyes. I see manipulation and manic tendencies. If she doesn't feel it for Guy. It is okay to walk away alone. She is a catch and will find someone on her own. I hope they let her keep the clothes. YOU GO GIRL!
I agree. As they said Chock seems so rehearsed. Something about him creeks me out. I also wonder why he was so in love with the woman who died...but never married her. They were engaged for a long time.
Loved the mini recap at the beginning, please consider doing something similar with the rest of the recaps so it's easier to follow for those of us who don't watch the main show. Also LOVE Mama Shae ♥
It is easy for us to say what people should or should not do. The show is completely different as a contestant & we get the edited, simplified, structured version on our screens each week. I bet it is abit of a shit show to be fair and it would take awhile to figure out what the hell is going on because the men don't have every day access to the lead
I think he was next to leave or at least the finalist and I liked the message it sent saying be honest and don’t fake it as it’s not a game in long run
@@maryjogreen1706 Joan should have sent creepy Chock home earlier. Too many red flags. He's a narcissist and scary after giving her a warning with a smile on his face not to break his heart.
Hi again from New Zealand x I love you ladies, so intuitive, switched on & respectful. I am in my early 60's & love Mama Shay. Anytime she joins you on the couch is a treat 🔥
Pascal spilled some beans in an online article by Glamour Magazine . Pascal spilled some information about Chock and the bowling date . I have a feeling that The Men Tell All … just might have a little salty spice to it …
I read it yesterday and l actually forgot some of it , but apparently Choke “ chocked the life out of the bowling date. Even one of the other men asked Cock to back off . Just Google the Glamour article on Pascale .
0:45 I’m glad I’m not the only one who had trouble with watching this series this season- technically!! They moved it to Hulu for live viewing, which I don’t have, I always watched it off of UA-cam TV.
I loved pascals honesty. He wasn't playing the "Bachelor game". Hes never seen the bachelor. Joan saying she's not lovable because 1 guy didn't fall in love? 🙄
He seemed to have the most personality! The way he interacted with the Tahitian guy & making jokes about the rooster & chicken & different cockadoodle sounds. Most of the playful & fun moments were among the guys & she was arm candy lots of the time.
I was disappointed that Joan said she felt unlovable. Maybe she needs more time before finding her life partner. You gotta love yourself first before you can expect someone else to love you
Maybe she's not interested in the final men after all & is just "getting through it". I'm 65 & finally went on a dating app last Feb. I signed up for 3 months. I got a lot of attention, went on a bunch of dates, etc. I'm busy with sports, activities & home remodeling, etc. I wanted someone where our lives meshed, & gave different men "a chance". There were patterns & I learned a lot but stopped after 3 weeks & decided to make "the world" my dating app. I started playing pickleball at different places & joined 🚲clubs in different parts of the city, etc. Anyway... maybe this show has given Joan the confidence to meet men in her own city & she just has to fulfill her contract & have fun with the process?
Joan seems to be just tolerating all the men. I don’t think she is - at all - ready to move forward. *Chock sounds like the HR director, at an uppity firm.
I recall hearing that they do not spend the night together at the fantasy suite. Rather they go home to their separate room after conversing in the fantasy suite.
Ry, you look so darn cute with your hair pulled back in a braid! I definitely do not see a connection with Joan and Guy. If you notice Joan, she barely smiles the entire time. When you are in love with someone, you can't stop smiling. It is way obvious to me that Chock is completely gone in love and so is Joan. I have seen from Chock's eyes that he is just a very open and positive human being and just can't help being so close to Joan. When you are in love with someone, trying to be at all apart from that person is so very difficult.
Which is why I watched it mostly. Joan is too confused constantly talking about her late husband. Then lied she's not looking for a man exactly like him yet Pascal the one who is like him and is wealthy too. Then she gets upset Pascal said there's no spark between them.
First off, I don't watch the show I just watch you three for the fun recaps. I agree with Mama Shay regarding Pascal. Things got too real and he was being honest. Joan needs to grow up and say OKay, I'm not his person and that doesn't make her unlovable to others. Plus her saying I don't want to waste time--she's only 61. I guess being in my 50's, I can say if I met someone I wouldn't be rushing to the alter just due to my age.
I love her "no physical intimacy" rule--it's a great rule! I agree about Chock--he's Chock full of himself and is just "too much". I adore Pascal but he clearly set the tone--and you've got to respect his choice. I also agree with him--how'd she get from two fun-filled dates to one super intense bonding session? I'd have been freaked out, too. I like Guy and he's super easy on the eyes but that spark doesn't seem to be there. Very interesting season, though!
Joan has a great body. Some lady was analyzing her plastic surgery which loses some points for me. I do one hour of cardio every night after work and I am 56 and have a flat stomach but I work at it. No shortcuts. That said, Joan has done a lot but I don't care. She looks great. She gives RHOC vs The Bachelorette but that's ok.
Pascal is "just not feeling it" when it got real & he was expected to have deeper conversations. His affect changed to "meh!" the last show, before they went to Tahiti. And Joan seemed less enthusiastic too. Good to part now, before ANOTHER engagement show then fighting & break up in 2 months--like many others in this series have gone through! 😖
He didn’t break her heart, she wasn’t going to choose him. She just didn’t like him making the decision, robbed her of chance to act like hurt her to let him go
Oh yes she wanted to keep him that's why she couldn't handle it. If Pascal felt speaks between them then Joan would have sent Chock home. Pascal the one she said reminds her of her late husband. Then Joan said she's not trying to find a man who is like her husband and rich. 🙄
I am happy to have found you...late in the season as it is. I am in the extreme minority here, but I thought Pascal was a major turn off. I found not one thing interesting about him. I did not find him charming in any way. Additionally, I am not loving the Mitt Romney 'knock off.' Chock is sus and seems to have a super competitive energy (giving Devin).
I didn't like Pascal either. He is not marriage material. Wants a glamorous life of fast cars, expensive trips, a glitzy lifestyle. Joan is more family oriented. Pascal would get bored.
@@sunnynelson9342 Hope you know that's how Joan's life was like with her late husband. She said it and even said Pascal reminded her of him. Many fans noticed that too. If Pascal wanted to stay single or get over his grief losing his ex-fiancee that's his business. Chock on the other hand is very creepy and Pascal talked about it in Glamour magazine that one of the guys told him to chill it. Chock was practically stalking Joan at the bowling game. No sense of boundaries he has for her. I doubt the rest of the guys liked Chock.
@@sunnynelson9342 Do you think Chock is still with Joan or do you think she moved on? I do not do spoilers so, I honestly have no clue on the outcome here.
I’m not sure how I feel about Pasqual. I don’t think Joan was going to choose him, so her being hurt was for the show and maybe some ego. As for him, he really didn’t bring up his past until after his salon was featured on the show. So it makes me wonder if he was there for the possibility that it could be good for his business.
@@armeniaalves That's an excuse. He went through loads of calls, zooms, and interviews to make it onto the show. He knew what it was about. He chose to do it.
@@vanillaghetto He didn't want to disappoint his children.. How come Chock made it through all those tests yet so many fans of the show noticed he's a narcissist and creepy. 😐
Chock is a hoverer and I find him somewhat controlling. And Joan is not ready to move on she should just give it up and go back home cuz I am so tired of hearing about her late-husband
I totally agree Pascal didn't know until he was there And why does she apparently want the man that didn't want her! I feel that John is very insecure. It's not a judgment. Just an observation. I'm 72 years old and I may feel hurt or rejected for a minute by a man. But to let it make her emotionally crash like she's worthless!! I'm older than Joan and I'm very self-assured and no man at this age could make me feel like I was unlovable or worthless😂 Especially when she has two other fine sexy men that are crazy about her It's not really emotionally healthy at our age too want someone that doesn't want us😢
People like that on an ATV are the ones that get killed! That was ridiculous. There was no reason to do that. Joan was dressed in all white too. There's no way you come out clean on an ATV ride that fast that clean!!! Other than that, I feel that GUY is too invested and Chock is full of it! And Pascal should have taken a back seat a long time ago. Mark would have been better to get this far. They may not have ended up together as engaged, but I do believe Mark would have been easier to adapt to Joan's family and Joan to Mark's. Regardless of this show, I cannot wait for Men Tell ALL! I absolutely loved the guys together. They are funny and charming. Kudos to the cast director for choosing a great group, but they did not find a compatible partner for Joan. I think someone needs to interview better on whether or not the woman or the man are willing to move from their families. If not, then choose someone in the same proximity of the Bachelor or Bachelorette.
Joan was honesty offended by Pascal at the dinner scene. Her head fell backwards twice like she was sucker punched by his sudden rejection. She got all done up elegantly for their date.She even wore a cape for the cool night air! Romance was in the air and he busted her balloon with his rejection. We knew it was coming because of the previews! Bad form on the producers part!
chock gives me the willies. He seems like he's controlling and will flip out. I hoped for Guy who's sincere, nice family and retiring so he can move to her area. No spark though. I hoped for Pascal as the more I learned about him, the more real he is and they'd be able to live a fun life. Plus his family was lovely. But she's going to pick chock I think. SO many nice men she had, but she didn't recognize them as good mates since she is so conflicted about her first husband. She expressed guilt for choosing anyone. Not a good sign
Remember when Pascal’s daughter said to Joan “he is NOT not gonna choose you”…? Well…she was wrooong. He straight up didn’t choose her and told her on her face in a very honest, yet hurtful way right before proposals, wth! He could have done this sooner. Just now he starts to think seriously? Joan was all in for him.
@@swanhill5759 it is okay if you are part of that culture and in a stable relationship that warrants that type of connection. Obviously, it was seriously overstepping the boundaries and caused that gentleman to leave on his own accord. So, yeah, it was weird to imposed that on an unsuspecting victim.
I want to know where Joan gets this whole I'm not lovable thing just because one man wasn't ready for her. I mean she was rejecting all of them the whole show. She needs to stop with her victimization
You young ladies are so funny, Joan's not ready for a relationship yet. Pascal isn't ready for a woman in his life yet either, he's not over his ex still, Chock don't like, Guy is ok, Joan's better off on her own looking, I'm just saying 😉
Do that before? Not everyone can fall in love in 7 weeks or less. And, why in the world did she introduce a “bonding ceremony” into their date? That was crazy! Too much, just as he said. What’s her name is quite judgey! Joan made herself feel that way. No man can take away a self-confident woman’s self-confidence.
Pascal wasn’t on the show to find commitment…. well. not to Joan anyway. His business will be thriving though. Guy is the most “real” but Joan doesn’t seem to fancy him. So Chock is her choice then I guess but I’m not keen on his self love vibe. She wanted the Frenchman and he’s unattainable.
Pascal is such a catch… for someone that isn’t me. “You protect yourself by saying it’s ok. But. It’s not okay!” Pascal can really feel his feelings and he make someone and himself bring happiness together! I’m with MaMa Shay! This is what the show is based on exploration. Pascal does not have a mean bone, he just doesn’t. When you catch feelings TOO FAST, that says you have problems with attachment Whit and Ry. Nothing is perfect, Whit and Ry you both expecting Pascal to have things figureD on “Whit and Ry’s time/demand.” I would say valid but that is also very much Whit and Ry’s very own projection and has ZERO relation to how Pascal experiences why and when he knew. Whit and Ry, don’t mix up your feelings! Everyone is allowed to have their own feelings!
Solid points! We toggle between reality and Bacheloreality while we watch the show, and would never expect anyone in the real world to make such a huge decision within just a few weeks. We're crazy, but not that crazy!
Chock seems TOO TOO obsessive over JOAN. He is the COMPLETE opposite of Mark. Mark was too reserved… Chock is too possessive. Completely convinced she is the one. Wished she could walk away and meet back up with Mark, and take their time. I think they would have been the perfect couple. She felt more sure if him, than any other one.
I totally agree with Mama Shay about Pascal. When things got real, he realized he’s not over his ex-girlfriend yet. But in my opinion, he probably wasn’t attracted to Joan.
Didn't things get real when he was one of top three guys? I wonder if his confession to Jessie prompted the Tahitian ceremony. It was so weird and out of place.
I love when your Mama recaps with you! You all do a great job of reading the room! I was laughing the entire recap, thank you!!😂
😂 I love your funny recaps. Thanks for the laughs 😂
Your mom & daughter’s relationship makes my heart happy. Love your recaps!
Love that they are gals and don't ignore their femininity by calling each other guys.
Whit and Ry… you are the BEST BEST BEST! My wife LOVED the shout out! She was shocked! What a great way to start her Birthday weekend. Thank you sooo much!
Chock gives me vibes the same as Devin in Jenns’ season. It’s about beating the other guys and not for a relationship. Big Ick!
Chock is such a Salesman
Yes. Way too pushy for my taste.
Well said 👍👍👍
Chock has meaningless lines. You all are right, scripted. Icky.
Pascal is not ready. Joan is also not ready.
Wow! I was so surprised to see you guys first this morning! I have a lot of respect for Pascal and his gentle honesty. Then, I was amazed and loved Joan's grace for where he was coming from. Joan shows a lot of grace and understanding regarding the men and their feelings. I am still hesitant about Chock, but I hope he is genuine and not playing like Devin. It lifted my heart to see Mama Shay with you, but whether she is there or not, I love you two! ☺❤❤❤
She sure didn't show grace to Mark . It was all about " me " and didn't give a crap about what he went through , coming to terms with his wife and hummingbird .
Always the best recap! You ladies always make me laugh so hard! I look forward to your videos. ❤
Excited to see you all so early. Love your recaps and mama Shay is so fun! 😂
I am also the same age, Mama Shay, and had my honeymoon in the Four Seasons' Presidential Suite in Oct 2010 in Bora Bora (130 miles from Moorea, Tahiti). It was gorgeous weather (80F by day, 74F at night) with the most stunning blue water, ~ and never, in my life, have I seen so many stars. I'm not surprised Joan mentioned the stars... And, @7:52 Whatever will we think of you? We LOVE you girls! You always make me laugh out loud! Haven't watched a single episode of the Bachelor/ette in YEARS, thanks to you!
Chock gives me the ick. I have many red flags for him. and another here because he was only using ONE HAND on the wheel, while driving that fast. Those things can easily flip. He was irresponsible cuz he was too focused on touching her... more boundary issues. But I LOVE you Ladies, you are HILARIOUS! BESY REVIEW> LOVE TO SEE MOMMA SHAY
Pascals kids signed him up for the show...
Chock is unbearable
Yes for some reason I don't like Chock
Yessss!
There is a Glamour magazine on line article where they interview Pascal . What he says about Chock is hysterical. Pascal talks about the bowling date … and how he felt about the way Choke acted. It led me to believe that Pascal was definitely not a fan of Chock … the men tell all might be more spicy 🌶️ that l thought.
Agree 💯
Chock's got crazy eyes. I see manipulation and manic tendencies. If she doesn't feel it for Guy. It is okay to walk away alone. She is a catch and will find someone on her own. I hope they let her keep the clothes. YOU GO GIRL!
I think Pascal was Joan's number one and she was shocked and hurt by his exit. Remember she was married so long she hasnt dated.
💕 ~ Joan & Guy seem to be the best match! Also, OMG - their bodies are amazing; at ANY age --- HELLO!!! 🤩
Agree I feel the same.
I agree. As they said Chock seems so rehearsed. Something about him creeks me out. I also wonder why he was so in love with the woman who died...but never married her. They were engaged for a long time.
Loved the mini recap at the beginning, please consider doing something similar with the rest of the recaps so it's easier to follow for those of us who don't watch the main show. Also LOVE Mama Shae ♥
Pascal is not on for the right reasons. He had to know by the time after hometowns that there was no spark , just my thought .
That was so heartfelt and introspective from Pascal, impressive.
Please he should ha e left early!!!!
It is easy for us to say what people should or should not do.
The show is completely different as a contestant & we get the edited, simplified, structured version on our screens each week.
I bet it is abit of a shit show to be fair and it would take awhile to figure out what the hell is going on because the men don't have every day access to the lead
I think he was next to leave or at least the finalist and I liked the message it sent saying be honest and don’t fake it as it’s not a game in long run
@@maryjogreen1706
Joan should have sent creepy Chock home earlier. Too many red flags. He's a narcissist and scary after giving her a warning with a smile on his face not to break his heart.
Hi again from New Zealand x
I love you ladies, so intuitive,
switched on & respectful.
I am in my early 60's & love Mama Shay.
Anytime she joins you on the couch is a treat 🔥
Love to you, Delwyn!
Pascal spilled some beans in an online article by Glamour Magazine . Pascal spilled some information about Chock and the bowling date . I have a feeling that The Men Tell All … just might have a little salty spice to it …
Ohhhhhhh do tell
I read it yesterday and l actually forgot some of it , but apparently Choke “ chocked the life out of the bowling date. Even one of the other men asked Cock to back off .
Just Google the Glamour article on Pascale .
Fun jokes and quips. keep it coming ladies❣️
Chock could you calm the F-down please. He’d drive me.
“For whatever will they think of us?” We will be laughing right along with you!!!!!❤❤
Mama Shay is spitting WISDOM ❤!!
0:45 I’m glad I’m not the only one who had trouble with watching this series this season- technically!! They moved it to Hulu for live viewing, which I don’t have, I always watched it off of UA-cam TV.
You three are so funny. Wish you could recap all the shows!
Choose the DOCTOR!!! 🤯
But, don’t do a GERRY! 😎
Chock does seem controlling. 😳
I lost my mum this year and don’t live near my sisters. Watching the three of you each week is a tonic for me ❤
@@SingaporeJude the biggest of hugs to you, Jude!
So sweet of you to do the birthday shoutout. I’m sure that made her day, especially with Mama Shay joining in! 😊
I loved pascals honesty. He wasn't playing the "Bachelor game". Hes never seen the bachelor. Joan saying she's not lovable because 1 guy didn't fall in love? 🙄
She had it bad for him, imo.
He seemed to have the most personality! The way he interacted with the Tahitian guy & making jokes about the rooster & chicken & different cockadoodle sounds. Most of the playful & fun moments were among the guys & she was arm candy lots of the time.
I was disappointed that
Joan said she felt unlovable.
Maybe she needs more time before finding her life partner.
You gotta love yourself first before you can expect someone else to love you
Maybe she's not interested in the final men after all & is just "getting through it". I'm 65 & finally went on a dating app last Feb. I signed up for 3 months. I got a lot of attention, went on a bunch of dates, etc. I'm busy with sports, activities & home remodeling, etc. I wanted someone where our lives meshed, & gave different men "a chance". There were patterns & I learned a lot but stopped after 3 weeks & decided to make "the world" my dating app. I started playing pickleball at different places & joined 🚲clubs in different parts of the city, etc.
Anyway... maybe this show has given Joan the confidence to meet men in her own city & she just has to fulfill her contract & have fun with the process?
Pascal's voice is like the boat tour guides in along came Polly😂
Yes! 😂
Scuba anyone ? Scuba !!
Joan seems to be just tolerating all the men. I don’t think she is - at all - ready to move forward. *Chock sounds like the HR director, at an uppity firm.
I agree
I recall hearing that they do not spend the night together at the fantasy suite. Rather they go home to their separate room after conversing in the fantasy suite.
Good for Joan in castrating the fantasy suite. It sets a precedent that the lead doesn't have to sleep with three partners in a week.
Just found ya'll...SO funny!!!! Love it!!!
2:14. Y’all are the best!
Ry, you look so darn cute with your hair pulled back in a braid! I definitely do not see a connection with Joan and Guy. If you notice Joan, she barely smiles the entire time. When you are in love with someone, you can't stop smiling. It is way obvious to me that Chock is completely gone in love and so is Joan. I have seen from Chock's eyes that he is just a very open and positive human being and just can't help being so close to Joan. When you are in love with someone, trying to be at all apart from that person is so very difficult.
You guys are so funny you make me laugh out really loud
Super cute! Nice levity in heavy times!❤
This series got bromance all over ❤❤❤
Which is why I watched it mostly. Joan is too confused constantly talking about her late husband. Then lied she's not looking for a man exactly like him yet Pascal the one who is like him and is wealthy too. Then she gets upset Pascal said there's no spark between them.
First off, I don't watch the show I just watch you three for the fun recaps. I agree with Mama Shay regarding Pascal. Things got too real and he was being honest. Joan needs to grow up and say OKay, I'm not his person and that doesn't make her unlovable to others. Plus her saying I don't want to waste time--she's only 61. I guess being in my 50's, I can say if I met someone I wouldn't be rushing to the alter just due to my age.
I love her "no physical intimacy" rule--it's a great rule!
I agree about Chock--he's Chock full of himself and is just "too much". I adore Pascal but he clearly set the tone--and you've got to respect his choice. I also agree with him--how'd she get from two fun-filled dates to one super intense bonding session? I'd have been freaked out, too. I like Guy and he's super easy on the eyes but that spark doesn't seem to be there. Very interesting season, though!
Joan has a great body. Some lady was analyzing her plastic surgery which loses some points for me. I do one hour of cardio every night after work and I am 56 and have a flat stomach but I work at it. No shortcuts. That said, Joan has done a lot but I don't care. She looks great. She gives RHOC vs The Bachelorette but that's ok.
5:00 great insight about what he WANTs controls...
You all crack me up! LoL
Pascal is "just not feeling it" when it got real & he was expected to have deeper conversations. His affect changed to "meh!" the last show, before they went to Tahiti. And Joan seemed less enthusiastic too. Good to part now, before ANOTHER engagement show then fighting & break up in 2 months--like many others in this series have gone through! 😖
He checked off one of his bucket list
We love ❤️ you guys it's great to watch the show with you ❤️ you're the best so much fun 😊
He didn’t break her heart, she wasn’t going to choose him. She just didn’t like him making the decision, robbed her of chance to act like hurt her to let him go
Oh yes she wanted to keep him that's why she couldn't handle it. If Pascal felt speaks between them then Joan would have sent Chock home. Pascal the one she said reminds her of her late husband. Then Joan said she's not trying to find a man who is like her husband and rich. 🙄
Chock , thank you for listening to my TED talk 😂😂
I am happy to have found you...late in the season as it is. I am in the extreme minority here, but I thought Pascal was a major turn off. I found not one thing interesting about him. I did not find him charming in any way. Additionally, I am not loving the Mitt Romney 'knock off.' Chock is sus and seems to have a super competitive energy (giving Devin).
Someone gets it.
I didn't like Pascal either. He is not marriage material. Wants a glamorous life of fast cars, expensive trips, a glitzy lifestyle. Joan is more family oriented. Pascal would get bored.
@@sunnynelson9342
Hope you know that's how Joan's life was like with her late husband. She said it and even said Pascal reminded her of him. Many fans noticed that too. If Pascal wanted to stay single or get over his grief losing his ex-fiancee that's his business. Chock on the other hand is very creepy and Pascal talked about it in Glamour magazine that one of the guys told him to chill it. Chock was practically stalking Joan at the bowling game. No sense of boundaries he has for her. I doubt the rest of the guys liked Chock.
@@sunnynelson9342 Do you think Chock is still with Joan or do you think she moved on? I do not do spoilers so, I honestly have no clue on the outcome here.
I think they all should be good friends
I’m not sure how I feel about Pasqual. I don’t think Joan was going to choose him, so her being hurt was for the show and maybe some ego. As for him, he really didn’t bring up his past until after his salon was featured on the show. So it makes me wonder if he was there for the possibility that it could be good for his business.
And good for being F3 and getting "ready" in time for being next Golden Bachelor.
His kids signed him up. Soooo...yeah, he was not ready. I hope he enjoyed the adventure. These series got bromance all over the place.
@@armeniaalves That's an excuse. He went through loads of calls, zooms, and interviews to make it onto the show. He knew what it was about. He chose to do it.
He doesn't need the promotion for his business when he's a wealthy man with sports cars, mansion, and lots of employees working for him in his salon.
@@vanillaghetto
He didn't want to disappoint his children.. How come Chock made it through all those tests yet so many fans of the show noticed he's a narcissist and creepy. 😐
chock for some reason reminds me about DEVIN from Jens season, he seems real into her and maybe at the end he’s going to turn
Chock is a hoverer and I find him somewhat controlling. And Joan is not ready to move on she should just give it up and go back home cuz I am so tired of hearing about her late-husband
I totally agree Pascal didn't know until he was there
And why does she apparently want the man that didn't want her! I feel that John is very insecure. It's not a judgment. Just an observation. I'm 72 years old and I may feel hurt or rejected for a minute by a man. But to let it make her emotionally crash like she's worthless!!
I'm older than Joan and I'm very self-assured and no man at this age could make me feel like I was unlovable or worthless😂
Especially when she has two other fine sexy men that are crazy about her
It's not really emotionally healthy at our age too want someone that doesn't want us😢
He should have told her before so she could have chosen someone else.
People like that on an ATV are the ones that get killed! That was ridiculous. There was no reason to do that. Joan was dressed in all white too. There's no way you come out clean on an ATV ride that fast that clean!!! Other than that, I feel that GUY is too invested and Chock is full of it! And Pascal should have taken a back seat a long time ago. Mark would have been better to get this far. They may not have ended up together as engaged, but I do believe Mark would have been easier to adapt to Joan's family and Joan to Mark's. Regardless of this show, I cannot wait for Men Tell ALL! I absolutely loved the guys together. They are funny and charming. Kudos to the cast director for choosing a great group, but they did not find a compatible partner for Joan. I think someone needs to interview better on whether or not the woman or the man are willing to move from their families. If not, then choose someone in the same proximity of the Bachelor or Bachelorette.
Joan was honesty offended by Pascal at the dinner scene. Her head fell backwards twice like she was sucker punched by his sudden rejection. She got all done up elegantly for their date.She even wore a cape for the cool night air! Romance was in the air and he busted her balloon with his rejection. We knew it was coming because of the previews! Bad form on the producers part!
Happy Halloween!! 🎃
chock gives me the willies. He seems like he's controlling and will flip out. I hoped for Guy who's sincere, nice family and retiring so he can move to her area. No spark though. I hoped for Pascal as the more I learned about him, the more real he is and they'd be able to live a fun life. Plus his family was lovely. But she's going to pick chock I think. SO many nice men she had, but she didn't recognize them as good mates since she is so conflicted about her first husband. She expressed guilt for choosing anyone. Not a good sign
Remember when Pascal’s daughter said to Joan “he is NOT not gonna choose you”…? Well…she was wrooong. He straight up didn’t choose her and told her on her face in a very honest, yet hurtful way right before proposals, wth! He could have done this sooner. Just now he starts to think seriously? Joan was all in for him.
It was about his money and he has no regrets. The man prefers younger women. That's why she said he reminded her of her husband.
That bonding ceremony was weird.
They always have weird stuff!!??!? Its creepy
I hate that sh*t. I'm single and at least half of the dates on this show would be pure torture for me!
Don’t call an aspect of another culture “weird.” The only thing weird about it is the way in which the show utilizes it for drama and scenery.
@@swanhill5759 it is okay if you are part of that culture and in a stable relationship that warrants that type of connection. Obviously, it was seriously overstepping the boundaries and caused that gentleman to leave on his own accord. So, yeah, it was weird to imposed that on an unsuspecting victim.
😢 ~ Well, Bonjour Pascal ... 👋
Whit I love how you turn into a legit professional body language expert at the very end of each season 🧐🤔🤥
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Chick is icky.....too intense. His smile looks calculating.
Joan looks at Guy like Pascal looked at her. Just friends.
I want to know where Joan gets this whole I'm not lovable thing just because one man wasn't ready for her. I mean she was rejecting all of them the whole show. She needs to stop with her victimization
TOTALLY AGREE WITH MOMMA
Mamma Shay - I canNOT, with the leg lift ! You go!! Flexibility and beauty 💜.
Love y’all!
Chock, yuck...🚩🚩🚩 I think a lot of us are feeling sort of Red Flagish about him and his cringe behavior.
I wish I were in Joan s
Play I would surely know what to do
Pascal's date would have been much better for Chock, they should have traded lol
I can't imagine him there at the beach. He acts like he's trying to eat her
Yes, so rehursed the PRESSURE is ON
Coq, French for rooster and cocorico = cock-a-doodle-doo. 🐓
🏝️🏖️doctor is best fit, Guy. Choc is weird. Salon guy no way.
I’m 44 and do not look like they do in their 60s 😬
Ditto! 🙋🏼♀️ Jealous AF! 😅
What is going on with Pascal???🥺 I thought he was going to be The One
He is not attracted to Joan, that’s all.
No sparks or true love he felt with her. At least he's honest unlike Chock who is way beyond creepy.
You young ladies are so funny,
Joan's not ready for a relationship yet. Pascal isn't ready for a woman in his life yet either, he's not over his ex still, Chock don't like, Guy is ok,
Joan's better off on her own looking, I'm just saying 😉
I must be the viewer of the golden bachelorette who likes Chock 😁
He's a solid guy, for sure! We hope he's genuine 🤞🏼
You're mother should do a fashion show I love her top❤❤
On the first date, does the table feel a bit high? Haha 🤷🏻♀️
LOVE MOMMA SHEA 💌
Whit, was that the golden rooster impression?
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Do that before? Not everyone can fall in love in 7 weeks or less. And, why in the world did she introduce a “bonding ceremony” into their date? That was crazy! Too much, just as he said. What’s her name is quite judgey! Joan made herself feel that way. No man can take away a self-confident woman’s self-confidence.
Joan doesn’t choose these dates. It’s the show that historically appropriates their host cultures’ traditions for activities.
I still have a smile on my face... Code. He sealed the deal despite what Joan wanted. RED FLAG
Yeah, whatever happened or not, his response was so smarmy and gross and high school.
Wtf is wrong with you??
Who is Code
@@sunnynelson9342
Chock.
@@sunnynelson9342 Man"Code" for he got some...but is pretending to be a gentleman.
Please keep MOM on these videos………MOM is awesome
I DON'T think Chock is the one for her. He gives me all the wrong vibes.
Does he seem sincere and considerate? Do you think he's in love? If so, what's the problem?
@Paul-te8gi he's NOT sincere. He hasn't been considerate. What's the problem?!?! He's FAKE.
That bonding ceremony was more appropriate for the end of golden bachelorette." Friend" zone is hilarious.
Pascal got bachelor edit
Gawd, I hope not.
Pascal wasn’t on the show to find commitment…. well. not to Joan anyway. His business will be thriving though. Guy is the most “real” but Joan doesn’t seem to fancy him. So Chock is her choice then I guess but I’m not keen on his self love vibe. She wanted the Frenchman and he’s unattainable.
I agree 100%
I think Pascal needs someone younger and more vivacious.
@@westernnut8407 Well, I'm sure that the last baby mama was much younger than him...he's 69 and his kids are in their early twenties!
19 yrs younger! @@vanillaghetto
Pascal is such a catch… for someone that isn’t me. “You protect yourself by saying it’s ok. But. It’s not okay!” Pascal can really feel his feelings and he make someone and himself bring happiness together! I’m with MaMa Shay!
This is what the show is based on exploration. Pascal does not have a mean bone, he just doesn’t. When you catch feelings TOO FAST, that says you have problems with attachment Whit and Ry. Nothing is perfect, Whit and Ry you both expecting Pascal to have things figureD on “Whit and Ry’s time/demand.” I would say valid but that is also very much Whit and Ry’s very own projection and has ZERO relation to how Pascal experiences why and when he knew. Whit and Ry, don’t mix up your feelings! Everyone is allowed to have their own feelings!
Solid points! We toggle between reality and Bacheloreality while we watch the show, and would never expect anyone in the real world to make such a huge decision within just a few weeks. We're crazy, but not that crazy!
I don't feel it with Chock so I am hoping Guy will be the one. Even if he can't zest a lemon lol
Marvelous Recap Ladies!!! 🥒🥒🥒 Can’t wait for the finale 👀😮💨
Dirty Dirty 1:48 🤣
Pascal is real… wish the other two men could be the same! Guy is awesome but his hurt is written over his face. Chock is creepy
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I’ll say one thing she got a bad face job 😮
BTW--I've watched more since my post. Listen to your mom. She's right. 😀
Chock seems TOO TOO obsessive over
JOAN. He is the COMPLETE opposite
of Mark. Mark was too reserved…
Chock is too possessive. Completely
convinced she is the one.
Wished she could walk away and
meet back up with Mark, and take
their time. I think they would have
been the perfect couple. She felt more
sure if him, than any other one.
Men who can't or don't express their commitment will generally finish behind men who do.
The birds ,and fast 420 = excitement and LOVE
Jesse is so cringy, Jesse : "the Pasco I know " u don't know him that like the most u have talk to him. God I really hate Jesse
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@@WhitandRy am I wrong though?
@@sweetnspicyeddie1984Not even a little bit!
Actually Mama Shay I think if have it right you should be the new bachelorette you are beautiful, funny and smart
She's actually happily married, but as long as our stepdad is okay with it... 😂😂 Thanks for your support Adel!
I vote Mama Shae for the next Golden Bachelorette, if she's single.. Love your videos.
She's beautiful