Such a great point about gratitude. I overtrained for a marathon in May and ended up with patella tendonitis. While doing PT I got more into mountain biking while I was rehabbing the knee….and then I crashed my bike (on Father’s Day of all days) and broke my scapula. Brutal year, but this morning I did 8 miles and I felt so grateful to do it. Running pain free is something I’ll never take for granted again
Yes to this!! I had to take a break from a foot injury and and then ran through the discomfort while working alongside a PT, so to be running pain-free right now is certainly a gift! I'm so glad to hear you are healed and string together solid mileage again!
Just went through the same thing sort of. Doc called it patellofemoral pain syndrome last summer and I'm just now getting to where it hardly hurts any more other than a few short lived stabbing pain moments that only last a few seconds.
I am only training for a half, but I am a beginner runner so my training feels intensive even if my mileage is chump change compared to many. I got into running with shallow ideas of physical challenge and achievement, I didn't quite consciously realize it was going to suck me into changing my life and having to become a more disciplined and hardworking person. I thought the running was going to be the hard part, but that's the fun part, it's making the running work and gel with the rest of your life that can be the challenge. Week by week I am slowly coming to realize the amount of work distance runners put into their training and it boggles my mind a bit. I never realized before quite the dedication and time it takes. I don't know if I will fall into the rabbit hole of running further or not, but as someone just starting to ramp up my distances in training I can say that anyone training for these long distances is incredible and is showing great fortitude and dedication, you impress the heck out of me
Could not agree more with everything you said! It takes a lot of commitment, patience and grit! And that goes for you, too, training for your first half. But guess what?! Keep going and I know you'll be amazed a year from now when you look back at how far you've come!
This popped up on my feed with impeccable timing. 7 weeks out and all my momentum has been crushed by a hip niggle brought on from overtraining. Almost a week now of no running (so 6 weeks to go now). I have a comeback in my sights. This time has forced me re-evaluate some of the fundamentals. My focus is on eating well and resting well and fingers crossed I can get back on track by the end of this week. Was so sad to not make my long run over the weekend!
Aaagh that is incredibly frustrating! Were you able to visit a PT? I hope so! Because the strength exercises they can give will be a gamechanger! I hope you're back to feeling good!
Thanks for the videos Jane. I'm currently training for my first marathon in October, I haven't got to the "why am I doing this!?" Stage but definitely feeling tired from the training! The amount of extra sleep I need these days is something! I sometimes go to bed rather after my kids! One thing you said in one of your other videos keeps me motivated "do what others won't" (could be paraphrasing) so whenever 5 days of running an 1 cross feels tough, I go back to this. Regarding motivation, Strava is doing a good job at the moment as it keeps popping up reminders of runs this time last year when I was doing a couch to 5k. I did 24k on Saturday so It's a nice motivation to see how far I've come since then!
"Today I will do what others won't, so tomorrow I can do what others can't.” Yes to this! Yes, my kids go to bed later than I'd prefer...but I still insist on tucking them in. Now if they would just stay in bed it would be fine...LOL.
Great video - especially the point about gratitude. I, too, am running Chicago Marathon. I am fortunate to live in NYC where I belong to a running team made up of a great group of folks to share the training with. I can't imagine doing this on my own.
Oh that is AWESOME you have a running group!! It sure helps for accountability on the long runs and to just help pull you through when you think you can't do anymore.
The other day on one of my just regular runs I was doing the gratitude thing the whole time. If you take a step back and think about the miracle that you can even get out of bed and breathe fresh air and move with ease, it is truly a blessing. Thanks for a great video, Jane😊
Another good topic. I'm in week 9 of training for my 1st. Going through some discomfort in my toes. I knew this wouldn't be easy but never thought it would be that,lol. Can't stop, won't stop. Ty Jane
Thanks so much for the pep talk. I've enjoyed watching your journey over the years. As for this topic, I've actually decided that I am no longer going to run full marathons starting 2024 (I have one in November and CIM in December).I've tried over the past few years to run at least one full every year and each time, I dread training for them. It is difficult finding time to properly train, therefore, it's extremely stressful. So, I've decided that running a marathon is just not for me. I will however, still run, just not signing up for marathons anymore. But thank you so much for all your tips.
Hi there - thanks for sharing this! If you don't love the process, there's no reason to force it! Racing shorter distances can be just as (or more in your case) fun and rewarding with less time taken away to train. Best of luck to you!
Perfect timing for this. Thank you! I'm watching this post family- vacation-fartlek while the rest of the crew is still snoozing in the hotel. It is definitely a bit daunting with some of the toughest weeks coming up. Videos like this definitely boost the spirits!
Hahaha right?! It's been so nice to not eat any gels while recovering from my marathon haha. But I've got 12 miles tomorrow, so gels are back on the schedule.
this is such a good channel. i'm 8 weeks away from my first 50k and i would definitely have been injured more (only once so far, cost me a week) if i hadn't watched your videos. thank you jane!
So happy to hear it's helped you. Sorry to hear about your injury, but I'm so glad you are back on track!! Wishing you all the best in the last couple of months of training!
This week I did my longest run before the Chicago marathon 😮💨 it was the hardest thing I’ve ever done and also the longest I’ve ever run yet (20 miles). I even cried towards the end because I just wanted to stop but after I was done I just couldn’t believe I just did that. Never in my life I thought I would run this far. I’m trying to trust the process (started since March) Only 4 weeks away from race day! I’m so nervous!! 😅
Another great video Jane. Love the realism in your message and practical ways to reset and focus on the why and also holding yourself accountable. Particularly for those trying to do on their own or without a coach. Will definitely join a training team for any future marathons. Thanks for your helpful content !! Awesome job !!
I will start training for my first full marathon this September. I have been injured the last 2 times I have tried and I am getting over some foot issues currently. I cannot wait to train with caution and gratitude because just getting to the start will be my ultimate goal!! I am the queen of enthusiasm for training and overtraining is the result!! So no time goal. Just finish. Keep myself injury free until the start line February 23rd.
@@runningwithjane I am running the Cowtown in Fort Worth Texas using the Galloway "To Finish" program. I strength train 2 or 3 times a week and cross train. I only run 3 times a week so my recovery is good. I am doing my runs in zone 2 (which in Texas today is a walk! It's so hot!). I feel confident I can finish and feel better about just getting to the start line healthy and happy! I really enjoy your videos!! Thank you!!
@@ym6722 That's awesome! Galloway definitely has excellent run/walk and beginner programs! Great job adding in the strength training, too. Wishing you best of luck in your training and thanks for watching the channel!
All great advice. The marathon training build up is always a process and one of sacrifice. The time commitment and the passing up of other races / running events can be demanding. I don't know how I did it -- I did my first few marathons with a group and they were so helpful and motivating. After I moved away from the group, I found myself solo and did my training solo. I had a lot of experience with it, so it wasn't too hard. As I've gotten older, though, the marathon just isn't there for me any more and I enjoy the freedom of racing more and not being a slave to my long run weekend. I think it is important for runners to really do a gut check prior to committing to a marathon if they are willing to make the sacrifice. I've tried to half-ass my training for a marathon and invariably it didn't go well. The more you put into it, the better result you will generally have. Love your advice on this Jane and good luck in Chicago! I lived there for many years and figured I'd one day run it, but never did (I remember the days you could sign up the week of the race and simply get in).
Hey Eddie - appreciate this really thoughtful comment and imparting your wisdom. "Demanding" is a great word to describe the process. It is easy to get swept up in the excitement those first couple of weeks and suddenly reality hits that it's no walk in the park. You have to find a love for the grind, that's for sure.
I am training for the 2023 nyc marathon. I feel great when I train . I now realize is that the main objective is to complete the marathon . Having completed 2 previous nyc marathons . I feel confident this is going to go well . I will not brag about anything but I am grateful that I am staying healthy.
Another terrific video. On holiday in Florida. So hot and got sick after a 2 hour run. Have been on a break for a week. Hope can get back in the swing of things after get better
I get up on weekdays at 4:30 A.M. so I can get some training in before work. I do my long run on Saturday. I had been getting up later when, during the summer, it gets unbearably hot. I have now made it a point to get up at the same time and get run out of the way while it is a little less hot. I also have more time during the day to get other things done.
Thanks, Jane. For me, the hard part is waiting for race day to arrive! I just raced my mid-block half marathon but now it's 2 months until the marathon🙂
Thanks Jane, for another great video! I was in no way thinking about quitting marathon training, but I am "down in the dumps" after my bad long run. This helps !!!
Jane, this video couldn't have come at a better time for me. My first marathon is the same day as your Chicago race and I am struggling somewhat at the moment. All of your points resonated with me and really helped. I know I can and will do this and appreciate your channel so much. Thank you for the timely advice and best of luck to you in Chicago.
Hi Colin, I'm glad to hear you found it helpful! I know it's such a common feeling at this stage and it can sometimes feel like everyone else is just crushing it no problem. You WILL achieve this goal and don't forget to remind yourself how awesome you are doing. Wishing you strength in these final 8 weeks and through the finish line.
Hi Jane! Great Video! I'm currently 7 weeks out from my 2nd marathon. (trying to break 4 hours) I am using your 4 hour marathon training plan. It's exciting looking to see what my next run is everyday! People at work ask me how training is going? And my response lately is, "Jane is trying to kill me." Ha ha ha Thank you Jane for everything! Training is tough, very tough... I have a huge "why." It keeps me very motivated. Thank you so much for your help.... Be strong at Chicago! I'll be rooting for you! :)
In my last marathon training (beginning January 2023) I skipped some long runs and eventually felt way behind my training load and never truly caught up. My advice that you can skip a run here or there but don’t do it on the long run. Normally I am very consident but I missed that boat in a crucial time period thinking that I can afford it - never again - the time spent in marathon training is too much to waste it because one is not motivated.
@@runningwithjane Yes - currently working on a 10k training plan, then I have a half-marathon race coming up and finally the next RnR marathon in San Diego June 2nd. When I am consistently training I have enough motivation but when life gets me out of my habits it is hard for me to come back.
YES, not phoning it in for some training today, and I took a nap afterwards. I saw the snippet of your husband in the video, and was grateful that I'm NOT a giant!!! just think of the wind resistance he must catch, LOL. All kidding aside, another great and honest video for us, thank you. Have an awesomeness week Coach Jane.
LOL I'm also only 5'1 haha and yes, he is a tall/big guy. He could be faster than me if he wanted to be though...he definitely used to be...but he just likes to keep his running manageable and stick to a few fun races per year. Naps after runs are the best!
I'd love to say you won't feel this way, buuuut, you might. And that's OK! It's how you work through it that matters and we all get stronger for it! Hope your training gets off to a great start!!
Thank you. This came just when I needed some encouragement. I’ve been really discouraged and had a touch of heat exhaustion yesterday that makes me dread tomorrow. I’m going out though. Good luck in Chicago. I’m walking NYC in Nov.
Hey Jana - hope you felt healthy today and you were able to do your run. Summer running is at a whole other level!! Be proud of what you are doing. And reflect on what you can do differently with hydration and electrolyte intake next time so it doesn't happen again. NYC will be amazing!!
Loved this video! your channel is so helpful thank you ☺️ this may be a weird question but if you have any tips on how to not gain weight during marathon training id love to see a video on that!
Aww so glad it's helpful!! I likely won't do a video on this topic on my own, but would love to have a nutritionist back on the channel at some point to talk about overall nutrition in training and knowing how you're getting enough without overdoing it, etc.
Hey George! Ugh, not great timing, BUT, at least it's not week of, right?! You might consider taking an extra day or two to recuperate so you're healthy and ready to go to finish out this block strong! You can do it!
Jane, thank you so much for this. I am the only one I know who’s training to run long distances and I do ask this question in my toughest runs. It’s hard to keep going when you don’t even have a running friend who can cheer you on, so your channel has been really helpful. Currently I’m a beginner building up to my half marathon distance, and so far I have reached 13k. I am slow and my training plan only has easy runs, so 13k takes me a little over two hours. If all goes well, I should be finished with my half marathon block training by October 1. With only 1-2 months before the race, what do you think should I do? Do you recommend working on my speed in the remaining extra months?
Hi there! If you have a plan you're already following, I'd recommend staying the course with that! The most important thing right now as a beginner is building the volume you need to complete the race. You got this!
I'm 8 weeks out from Lisbon marathon. On yesterday's long run my legs (or probably my mind) gave up 10 miles into my planned 2h45 long run. I ended up walking 5 miles back to the van. I dont know if I'm physically or mentally exhausted from running at this point, but it wasnt enoyable.
Try to dial in what you think could have been the culprit. Yes, the mind CAN convince your body to keep going, but hitting a wall is a very real thing physically. Did you get enough carbs - recommend at least 1 gel or equivalent every 30 min. Hydrating well with sodium? Saltstick caps or an electrolyte drink helps! Lastly, are you running at a truly easy pace? Those first several miles should feel very comfortable to conserve energy for later. You GOT this...keep showing up!
@@runningwithjane thank you Jane. I'll bare it all in mind. I am travelling a lot, so none of my long runs have any kind of consistency. They have all been in different places, different countries even with different climates. Usually I make it round regardless and it's been getting better easier each time. This run was a coastal path in the north of France, quite moderate temperatures, but sunny. The main difference I think was It was busy and I had to walk some sections as the path was not wide enough. I'm not sure if that put me in a different frame of mind for the run. But yes, it was like hitting the wall. I dropped my easy pace signifcantly this year since understanding what an easy run actually should actually feel like! Fueling is the only thing I do get to keep consistent. Also I did have different trainers on than normal because my others were soaked on a session a few days before. Too many factors at play to pinpoint an exact reason. I'm not giving up. But I really don't want that feeling again.
One week later, and I did my 3 hour run no problems Just having a bad day I think. I didn't do my midweek runs quite so hard and I moved my rest day from Friday to Saturday. I also made sure to drink plenty the day before.
Waiting until the heat of the day to do your run… guilty over here 😅 Tempo repeats done in 29°C (88F) heat was not conducive to the best repeats I’ve done😂
I think we've all made the mistake a time or two! You def still got a great workout though since your body knows effort. Hope your training is going great otherwise!
@@runningwithjane All hail RPE 🙌🏻🙌🏻 Training has been good. Slowly building up mileage again, no imminent long races, but getting my base up to around 100km (63 freedom units) per week, and I’m liking the challenge. Slowly improving speed, and lifestyle stuff. Feels good ☺️
How about when you're trying to train for a marathon you may never run? The chance of being able to run my sixth major, Boston, is highly unlikely due to the high demand; however, if the opportunity should arise, I want to be able to take it.
Hi Jane thanks again for such great advice. I am also training for the Chicago Marathon and it's getting grueling for me. I am doing this on my own, and now often have started to doubt myself especially on the long runs. BTW this will be my first marathon. Any extra tips to not give up? Anyone?? 😢
Only to say that I'm in the same boat right now for Lisbon marathon. I'm just really tired right now,and although I don't want to quit, I would love to scale back the miles! By half would be nice 😂 Unlike you, I have done a couple of marathons before. Although I never trained for them properly, my aim was to get around so I know (and you should know) that if you are willing, and you've managed the training program so far, you will get around. The way i see it, the training we do right now, is going to make the run more enjoyable - I want to get closer to realising my real potential instead of getting by. Like Jane said, and it is absolutely how I felt about my other marathons - you will look back on this time and go 'if only I did those weeks of hard graft I would have really smashed this'. Keep it up, you got this!
@@runningwithjane It's something I have always wanted to accomplish, also to give back to the community (fund raising). I don't want to fail but I am having a hard time staying motivated.
Not if you strength train alongside it!! The "running is bad for your knees" is a myth. Running is incredibly healthy as long as you follow sound advice for training.
@@curtishills6101 if you're newer to doing a long run workout I like something like 6 x (0.25 @ MP, 0.75 easy) and then you can bump up to 1/2 miles. If more experienced, can start with something like 4 x 1 mile at MP, with easy btwn...and progress to 3 x 2 and later 3 x 3, etc. For weekly workouts, pyramid style is good where you start with MP, then 3 miles 5k/10k pace and end again with MP to make it feel easier. (some sort of recovery btwn the miles). I like prescribing anything that has both MP and something faster in it because the hope is that you're going to negative split your marathon and run closer to half marathon pace by the end. Also strides!! At the end of an easy run at least once per week! (All workouts would have warmup and cooldown...those should all be very easy!) I'll try to do a video in the future where I can share more.
I know they say "Trust the process" and "Trust the coach" I am training for a sub-4 marathon and I ran my longest run on Sunday at a grand 23.7km and towards the 20km mark, my legs felt heavy and I can barely keep a 6 min/km (9.6min per mile) pace. I can usually run a sub-50 min 10km. I was however hitting all my zones in TP that my coach gave me. 🙂 I was well hydrated, gel'd (1 gel every 30 mins), and 2 salt pills. I'm hoping this will get faster as I approach the big date - My first marathon! Auckland Marathon?
Hey Tony - this is a really common occurrence right now with the heat! It affects us more than we realize and I think sometimes this is due to a lack of enough daily hydration, too. It is not uncommon to have to slow down 15-20 seconds per km or more in the heat. Sounds like you made it through though! Remember too, you're running on tired legs and the peak weeks are hard on the body. Keep showing up and yes, trust that the training is working!
@@runningwithjane I'm all the way here in Auckland, New Zealand so it's winter at a nice 15c or 59F when I ran. :) I did run at around 2pm so I've already had a day of doing house chores and walking the dogs! Agreed on the tired legs... half marathon last weekend... half marathon+ this weekend and a few runs in between. Really mentally draining and physically draining.
Such a great point about gratitude. I overtrained for a marathon in May and ended up with patella tendonitis. While doing PT I got more into mountain biking while I was rehabbing the knee….and then I crashed my bike (on Father’s Day of all days) and broke my scapula. Brutal year, but this morning I did 8 miles and I felt so grateful to do it. Running pain free is something I’ll never take for granted again
Yes to this!! I had to take a break from a foot injury and and then ran through the discomfort while working alongside a PT, so to be running pain-free right now is certainly a gift! I'm so glad to hear you are healed and string together solid mileage again!
Just went through the same thing sort of. Doc called it patellofemoral pain syndrome last summer and I'm just now getting to where it hardly hurts any more other than a few short lived stabbing pain moments that only last a few seconds.
It does become a drag. Do it because there will come a day where you can't do it.
Yes to this!!! Also the hardest weeks really don't last that long. But man, in the toughest moments, it can be hard to zoom out!
I am only training for a half, but I am a beginner runner so my training feels intensive even if my mileage is chump change compared to many. I got into running with shallow ideas of physical challenge and achievement, I didn't quite consciously realize it was going to suck me into changing my life and having to become a more disciplined and hardworking person. I thought the running was going to be the hard part, but that's the fun part, it's making the running work and gel with the rest of your life that can be the challenge.
Week by week I am slowly coming to realize the amount of work distance runners put into their training and it boggles my mind a bit. I never realized before quite the dedication and time it takes. I don't know if I will fall into the rabbit hole of running further or not, but as someone just starting to ramp up my distances in training I can say that anyone training for these long distances is incredible and is showing great fortitude and dedication, you impress the heck out of me
Could not agree more with everything you said! It takes a lot of commitment, patience and grit! And that goes for you, too, training for your first half. But guess what?! Keep going and I know you'll be amazed a year from now when you look back at how far you've come!
This popped up on my feed with impeccable timing. 7 weeks out and all my momentum has been crushed by a hip niggle brought on from overtraining. Almost a week now of no running (so 6 weeks to go now). I have a comeback in my sights. This time has forced me re-evaluate some of the fundamentals. My focus is on eating well and resting well and fingers crossed I can get back on track by the end of this week. Was so sad to not make my long run over the weekend!
Aaagh that is incredibly frustrating! Were you able to visit a PT? I hope so! Because the strength exercises they can give will be a gamechanger! I hope you're back to feeling good!
Thanks for the videos Jane. I'm currently training for my first marathon in October, I haven't got to the "why am I doing this!?" Stage but definitely feeling tired from the training! The amount of extra sleep I need these days is something! I sometimes go to bed rather after my kids!
One thing you said in one of your other videos keeps me motivated "do what others won't" (could be paraphrasing) so whenever 5 days of running an 1 cross feels tough, I go back to this.
Regarding motivation, Strava is doing a good job at the moment as it keeps popping up reminders of runs this time last year when I was doing a couch to 5k. I did 24k on Saturday so It's a nice motivation to see how far I've come since then!
"Today I will do what others won't, so tomorrow I can do what others can't.” Yes to this!
Yes, my kids go to bed later than I'd prefer...but I still insist on tucking them in. Now if they would just stay in bed it would be fine...LOL.
Thanks for another great video! I loved "You want to make future you proud!" I definitely do and I'm going to remember that on the hard days!!
Yes!! No one else may care, but you do and you want to know you did your best! Hope your training is going well, Jacqui!
Great video - especially the point about gratitude. I, too, am running Chicago Marathon. I am fortunate to live in NYC where I belong to a running team made up of a great group of folks to share the training with. I can't imagine doing this on my own.
Oh that is AWESOME you have a running group!! It sure helps for accountability on the long runs and to just help pull you through when you think you can't do anymore.
The other day on one of my just regular runs I was doing the gratitude thing the whole time. If you take a step back and think about the miracle that you can even get out of bed and breathe fresh air and move with ease, it is truly a blessing. Thanks for a great video, Jane😊
It's so true!! Though marathon training is "hard," it pales in comparison to life's true challenges. Every day is a gift!
Another good topic. I'm in week 9 of training for my 1st. Going through some discomfort in my toes. I knew this wouldn't be easy but never thought it would be that,lol. Can't stop, won't stop. Ty Jane
Can't stop, won't stop is right! You've already come this far! I hope you find a solution to your uncomfortable toes ASAP!
Thanks so much for the pep talk. I've enjoyed watching your journey over the years. As for this topic, I've actually decided that I am no longer going to run full marathons starting 2024 (I have one in November and CIM in December).I've tried over the past few years to run at least one full every year and each time, I dread training for them. It is difficult finding time to properly train, therefore, it's extremely stressful. So, I've decided that running a marathon is just not for me. I will however, still run, just not signing up for marathons anymore. But thank you so much for all your tips.
Hi there - thanks for sharing this! If you don't love the process, there's no reason to force it! Racing shorter distances can be just as (or more in your case) fun and rewarding with less time taken away to train. Best of luck to you!
Perfect timing for this. Thank you!
I'm watching this post family- vacation-fartlek while the rest of the crew is still snoozing in the hotel.
It is definitely a bit daunting with some of the toughest weeks coming up.
Videos like this definitely boost the spirits!
Daunting for sure! Try not to look ahead and focus on the here and now. Keep checking off the days and your race will be here before you know it.
Wow Great stuff lady..Your timing is universe sent.I must reset pronto.
You can do it!
OMG you had me at " another gel at the crack of dawn" LOLOLOLOL that should be a t-shirt !!
Hahaha right?! It's been so nice to not eat any gels while recovering from my marathon haha. But I've got 12 miles tomorrow, so gels are back on the schedule.
@@runningwithjane Enjoy!!
this is such a good channel. i'm 8 weeks away from my first 50k and i would definitely have been injured more (only once so far, cost me a week) if i hadn't watched your videos. thank you jane!
So happy to hear it's helped you. Sorry to hear about your injury, but I'm so glad you are back on track!! Wishing you all the best in the last couple of months of training!
This week I did my longest run before the Chicago marathon 😮💨 it was the hardest thing I’ve ever done and also the longest I’ve ever run yet (20 miles). I even cried towards the end because I just wanted to stop but after I was done I just couldn’t believe I just did that. Never in my life I thought I would run this far. I’m trying to trust the process (started since March) Only 4 weeks away from race day! I’m so nervous!! 😅
That is AMAZING!! I'm so proud of you, and those tears were a result of the realization that you are so much stronger than you realized! Almost there!
Another great video Jane. Love the realism in your message and practical ways to reset and focus on the why and also holding yourself accountable. Particularly for those trying to do on their own or without a coach. Will definitely join a training team for any future marathons. Thanks for your helpful content !! Awesome job !!
You're so welcome, Mark! Glad it resonated with you!
I will start training for my first full marathon this September. I have been injured the last 2 times I have tried and I am getting over some foot issues currently. I cannot wait to train with caution and gratitude because just getting to the start will be my ultimate goal!! I am the queen of enthusiasm for training and overtraining is the result!! So no time goal. Just finish. Keep myself injury free until the start line February 23rd.
Consistent strength training and lots of easy running is the ticket! Which marathon are you running?
@@runningwithjane I am running the Cowtown in Fort Worth Texas using the Galloway "To Finish" program. I strength train 2 or 3 times a week and cross train. I only run 3 times a week so my recovery is good. I am doing my runs in zone 2 (which in Texas today is a walk! It's so hot!). I feel confident I can finish and feel better about just getting to the start line healthy and happy! I really enjoy your videos!! Thank you!!
@@ym6722 That's awesome! Galloway definitely has excellent run/walk and beginner programs! Great job adding in the strength training, too. Wishing you best of luck in your training and thanks for watching the channel!
All great advice. The marathon training build up is always a process and one of sacrifice. The time commitment and the passing up of other races / running events can be demanding. I don't know how I did it -- I did my first few marathons with a group and they were so helpful and motivating. After I moved away from the group, I found myself solo and did my training solo. I had a lot of experience with it, so it wasn't too hard. As I've gotten older, though, the marathon just isn't there for me any more and I enjoy the freedom of racing more and not being a slave to my long run weekend. I think it is important for runners to really do a gut check prior to committing to a marathon if they are willing to make the sacrifice. I've tried to half-ass my training for a marathon and invariably it didn't go well. The more you put into it, the better result you will generally have. Love your advice on this Jane and good luck in Chicago! I lived there for many years and figured I'd one day run it, but never did (I remember the days you could sign up the week of the race and simply get in).
Hey Eddie - appreciate this really thoughtful comment and imparting your wisdom. "Demanding" is a great word to describe the process. It is easy to get swept up in the excitement those first couple of weeks and suddenly reality hits that it's no walk in the park. You have to find a love for the grind, that's for sure.
I am training for the 2023 nyc marathon. I feel great when I train . I now realize is that the main objective is to complete the marathon . Having completed 2 previous nyc marathons . I feel confident this is going to go well . I will not brag about anything but I am grateful that I am staying healthy.
Love this outlook! You're doing awesome, Oscar!
@@runningwithjane thank you for everything you do to help all of us runners
This video definitely resonated with me and I needed to hear it! Hope you have a great week💪🏃🏽♀️
You're AMAZING, April!! Proving you can do hard things!
Another terrific video. On holiday in Florida. So hot and got sick after a 2 hour run. Have been on a break for a week. Hope can get back in the swing of things after get better
Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear, Trevor. Sounds like you had some heat exhaustion maybe. Hope you are feeling 100% very soon!
Good luck to you at the Chicago marathon. I'm sure it'll be AWESOME!!!!!
Thanks so much, Donald!
Thank you for these tips. I am currently training for my first marathon - Chicago and some days are the hardest
You're so welcome! 7 weeks...we can do this!!!
I get up on weekdays at 4:30 A.M. so I can get some training in before work. I do my long run on Saturday. I had been getting up later when, during the summer, it gets unbearably hot. I have now made it a point to get up at the same time and get run out of the way while it is a little less hot. I also have more time during the day to get other things done.
Absolutely! That early alarm is no fun, but it sure feels good once you're out there and know you're going to beat the heat!
Thanks, Jane. For me, the hard part is waiting for race day to arrive! I just raced my mid-block half marathon but now it's 2 months until the marathon🙂
Totally get that! How was the half?
It went well, thank you! PB of 1:42 at Georgetown-Idaho Springs. Cautiously optimistic for Long View in October.
Great video Thanks Jane
You're so welcome!
Thanks Jane, for another great video! I was in no way thinking about quitting marathon training, but I am "down in the dumps" after my bad long run. This helps !!!
You're doing amazing, Ted!! It's just.one.run of a long and focused training cycle where you have put in a ton of work!! It's going to be great!!
Jane, this video couldn't have come at a better time for me. My first marathon is the same day as your Chicago race and I am struggling somewhat at the moment. All of your points resonated with me and really helped. I know I can and will do this and appreciate your channel so much. Thank you for the timely advice and best of luck to you in Chicago.
Hi Colin, I'm glad to hear you found it helpful! I know it's such a common feeling at this stage and it can sometimes feel like everyone else is just crushing it no problem. You WILL achieve this goal and don't forget to remind yourself how awesome you are doing. Wishing you strength in these final 8 weeks and through the finish line.
Hi Jane! Great Video! I'm currently 7 weeks out from my 2nd marathon. (trying to break 4 hours) I am using your 4 hour marathon training plan. It's exciting looking to see what my next run is everyday! People at work ask me how training is going? And my response lately is, "Jane is trying to kill me." Ha ha ha Thank you Jane for everything! Training is tough, very tough... I have a huge "why." It keeps me very motivated. Thank you so much for your help.... Be strong at Chicago! I'll be rooting for you! :)
Rooting for you big time that you break 4!!! BELIEVE! Thank you for the well wishes - much appreciated!
In my last marathon training (beginning January 2023) I skipped some long runs and eventually felt way behind my training load and never truly caught up. My advice that you can skip a run here or there but don’t do it on the long run. Normally I am very consident but I missed that boat in a crucial time period thinking that I can afford it - never again - the time spent in marathon training is too much to waste it because one is not motivated.
Absolutely agree. Missing one is not usually a big deal...missing a few or more can make it really hard to stay on track. Are you training again now?
@@runningwithjane Yes - currently working on a 10k training plan, then I have a half-marathon race coming up and finally the next RnR marathon in San Diego June 2nd. When I am consistently training I have enough motivation but when life gets me out of my habits it is hard for me to come back.
YES, not phoning it in for some training today, and I took a nap afterwards. I saw the snippet of your husband in the video, and was grateful that I'm NOT a giant!!! just think of the wind resistance he must catch, LOL. All kidding aside, another great and honest video for us, thank you. Have an awesomeness week Coach Jane.
LOL I'm also only 5'1 haha and yes, he is a tall/big guy. He could be faster than me if he wanted to be though...he definitely used to be...but he just likes to keep his running manageable and stick to a few fun races per year. Naps after runs are the best!
Great video! I start my training next week, so I may have to revisit this in about 8 weeks
I'd love to say you won't feel this way, buuuut, you might. And that's OK! It's how you work through it that matters and we all get stronger for it! Hope your training gets off to a great start!!
I’m in week 9 now…. Time to revisit this, and it hits a little harder now. Thanks for sharing
Thank you. This came just when I needed some encouragement. I’ve been really discouraged and had a touch of heat exhaustion yesterday that makes me dread tomorrow. I’m going out though. Good luck in Chicago. I’m walking NYC in Nov.
Hey Jana - hope you felt healthy today and you were able to do your run. Summer running is at a whole other level!! Be proud of what you are doing. And reflect on what you can do differently with hydration and electrolyte intake next time so it doesn't happen again. NYC will be amazing!!
Great video!!! Thank you, thank you
You are so welcome!
“determinant” is a word and you used it correctly 😁. Great video! Thank you.
LOL thank you! You know those moments where something just doesn't sound right?!
Loved this video! your channel is so helpful thank you ☺️ this may be a weird question but if you have any tips on how to not gain weight during marathon training id love to see a video on that!
Aww so glad it's helpful!! I likely won't do a video on this topic on my own, but would love to have a nutritionist back on the channel at some point to talk about overall nutrition in training and knowing how you're getting enough without overdoing it, etc.
I love this video ❤
Thank you for watching, Suzy!
This time I am breaking marathon training😂
YASSS!! (If this means what I think it means LOL!)
I’m at this point 7 weeks out. Got a cold and sore throat on top of the training, and struggling to stay awake.
Hey George! Ugh, not great timing, BUT, at least it's not week of, right?! You might consider taking an extra day or two to recuperate so you're healthy and ready to go to finish out this block strong! You can do it!
Oh, so you heard me swearing at you during my long run on Saturday? Noted 💀
Loud and clear!! LOL!!
Jane, thank you so much for this. I am the only one I know who’s training to run long distances and I do ask this question in my toughest runs. It’s hard to keep going when you don’t even have a running friend who can cheer you on, so your channel has been really helpful. Currently I’m a beginner building up to my half marathon distance, and so far I have reached 13k. I am slow and my training plan only has easy runs, so 13k takes me a little over two hours. If all goes well, I should be finished with my half marathon block training by October 1. With only 1-2 months before the race, what do you think should I do? Do you recommend working on my speed in the remaining extra months?
Hi there! If you have a plan you're already following, I'd recommend staying the course with that! The most important thing right now as a beginner is building the volume you need to complete the race. You got this!
Just shot an email over via your website for a consult. Need help tweaking and getting feedback. My run is 9 weeks out can’t wait!
Is this Craig? I sent over an email when you reached out, hopefully you got it! And if you changed your mind, no worries!
I only run 5K and 10K (although I'm going to try a 10 miler in November) and I sometimes ask the same question: Why am I doing this?!
Haha...yep!!! Not just marathoners! It's hard work no matter what.
I'm 8 weeks out from Lisbon marathon. On yesterday's long run my legs (or probably my mind) gave up 10 miles into my planned 2h45 long run. I ended up walking 5 miles back to the van. I dont know if I'm physically or mentally exhausted from running at this point, but it wasnt enoyable.
Try to dial in what you think could have been the culprit. Yes, the mind CAN convince your body to keep going, but hitting a wall is a very real thing physically. Did you get enough carbs - recommend at least 1 gel or equivalent every 30 min. Hydrating well with sodium? Saltstick caps or an electrolyte drink helps! Lastly, are you running at a truly easy pace? Those first several miles should feel very comfortable to conserve energy for later. You GOT this...keep showing up!
@@runningwithjane thank you Jane. I'll bare it all in mind. I am travelling a lot, so none of my long runs have any kind of consistency. They have all been in different places, different countries even with different climates. Usually I make it round regardless and it's been getting better easier each time. This run was a coastal path in the north of France, quite moderate temperatures, but sunny. The main difference I think was It was busy and I had to walk some sections as the path was not wide enough. I'm not sure if that put me in a different frame of mind for the run. But yes, it was like hitting the wall. I dropped my easy pace signifcantly this year since understanding what an easy run actually should actually feel like! Fueling is the only thing I do get to keep consistent. Also I did have different trainers on than normal because my others were soaked on a session a few days before. Too many factors at play to pinpoint an exact reason. I'm not giving up. But I really don't want that feeling again.
One week later, and I did my 3 hour run no problems Just having a bad day I think. I didn't do my midweek runs quite so hard and I moved my rest day from Friday to Saturday. I also made sure to drink plenty the day before.
@gb2983 YAY!!
Waiting until the heat of the day to do your run… guilty over here 😅
Tempo repeats done in 29°C (88F) heat was not conducive to the best repeats I’ve done😂
I think we've all made the mistake a time or two! You def still got a great workout though since your body knows effort. Hope your training is going great otherwise!
@@runningwithjane All hail RPE 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Training has been good. Slowly building up mileage again, no imminent long races, but getting my base up to around 100km (63 freedom units) per week, and I’m liking the challenge. Slowly improving speed, and lifestyle stuff. Feels good ☺️
How about when you're trying to train for a marathon you may never run? The chance of being able to run my sixth major, Boston, is highly unlikely due to the high demand; however, if the opportunity should arise, I want to be able to take it.
Run for joy and keep that base! I hope you get to run it someday, Nigel!
Hi Jane thanks again for such great advice. I am also training for the Chicago Marathon and it's getting grueling for me. I am doing this on my own, and now often have started to doubt myself especially on the long runs. BTW this will be my first marathon. Any extra tips to not give up? Anyone?? 😢
Hey there! Common feeling! Why did you decide to run it in the first place? Why are you doubting yourself specifically?
Only to say that I'm in the same boat right now for Lisbon marathon. I'm just really tired right now,and although I don't want to quit, I would love to scale back the miles! By half would be nice 😂
Unlike you, I have done a couple of marathons before. Although I never trained for them properly, my aim was to get around so I know (and you should know) that if you are willing, and you've managed the training program so far, you will get around.
The way i see it, the training we do right now, is going to make the run more enjoyable - I want to get closer to realising my real potential instead of getting by. Like Jane said, and it is absolutely how I felt about my other marathons - you will look back on this time and go 'if only I did those weeks of hard graft I would have really smashed this'. Keep it up, you got this!
@@runningwithjane It's something I have always wanted to accomplish, also to give back to the community (fund raising). I don't want to fail but I am having a hard time staying motivated.
@@gb2983 thank you so much! I will keep your advice in mind. Good luck in your training and marathon!
My concern is if marathons would wear out the knees and other joints.
Not if you strength train alongside it!! The "running is bad for your knees" is a myth. Running is incredibly healthy as long as you follow sound advice for training.
@@runningwithjaneThank you, Jane! You are my running role model ❤
@Running with Jane so what are some good go to workouts coach?!
Hi Curtis! Are you wondering about speed sessions, long run workouts, etc...? Any?
@@runningwithjane both actually
@@runningwithjane for 5k training
@@curtishills6101 if you're newer to doing a long run workout I like something like 6 x (0.25 @ MP, 0.75 easy) and then you can bump up to 1/2 miles.
If more experienced, can start with something like 4 x 1 mile at MP, with easy btwn...and progress to 3 x 2 and later 3 x 3, etc.
For weekly workouts, pyramid style is good where you start with MP, then 3 miles 5k/10k pace and end again with MP to make it feel easier. (some sort of recovery btwn the miles). I like prescribing anything that has both MP and something faster in it because the hope is that you're going to negative split your marathon and run closer to half marathon pace by the end.
Also strides!! At the end of an easy run at least once per week!
(All workouts would have warmup and cooldown...those should all be very easy!)
I'll try to do a video in the future where I can share more.
@@runningwithjane thank you appreciate it
I know they say "Trust the process" and "Trust the coach"
I am training for a sub-4 marathon and I ran my longest run on Sunday at a grand 23.7km and towards the 20km mark, my legs felt heavy and I can barely keep a 6 min/km (9.6min per mile) pace. I can usually run a sub-50 min 10km. I was however hitting all my zones in TP that my coach gave me. 🙂
I was well hydrated, gel'd (1 gel every 30 mins), and 2 salt pills.
I'm hoping this will get faster as I approach the big date - My first marathon! Auckland Marathon?
Hey Tony - this is a really common occurrence right now with the heat! It affects us more than we realize and I think sometimes this is due to a lack of enough daily hydration, too. It is not uncommon to have to slow down 15-20 seconds per km or more in the heat. Sounds like you made it through though! Remember too, you're running on tired legs and the peak weeks are hard on the body. Keep showing up and yes, trust that the training is working!
@@runningwithjane I'm all the way here in Auckland, New Zealand so it's winter at a nice 15c or 59F when I ran. :)
I did run at around 2pm so I've already had a day of doing house chores and walking the dogs!
Agreed on the tired legs... half marathon last weekend... half marathon+ this weekend and a few runs in between.
Really mentally draining and physically draining.
If you can't not drink wine before a long run, you have bigger issues than marathon training, lol... just saying 🤷♂️.
Perhaps! Or hopefully just a poor choice that they'll learn from and not do again.