A correction: The chemical in ABC dry chemical fire extinguishers is monoammonium phosphate. Also, sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) is not rated to put out the same kinds of fires. Monoammonium phosphate is non-toxic and is classified only as a nuisance dust (just like breathing dust when you are sweeping a dusty floor).
Hopefully no one takes this video seriously. Cool project to make a smoke shooter or something however a dry chemical fire extinguisher must only be recharged with Mono Ammonium Phosphate. The pressurising gas has to be dry Nitrogen as compressed air (Oxygen) is full of moisture (water) over time this can clump the power causing the fire extinguisher not to discharge properly, as well as begin to corrode the interior of the steel cylinder.
At least with these, you could cheat the system. But it won't really be advisable though. 😁 😂 😂 Its highly dangerous if I may say, since other pipz around won't know if that extinguisher is working or not. Imagine using it as means to cut off a fire, then it actually made the fire worst. 😂 Imagine a fire station system burning. 😂 😂
Thanks for the video. I would not try to refill my extinguisher this way BUT I do have plans to use an extinguisher to hold compressed air, and this video was helpful.
ABC dry chemical is : monoammonium phosphate, which is yellow. This would have been what was originally in this fire extinguisher. This extinguisher was not intended to be refilled, but discarded. What this guy is doing is a felony in some states, but it's UA-cam - so whatever. It's never a good idea to try to unscrew the valve of ANY pressurized cylinder. (Don't rely on the cheap little gauge to tell you it doesn't have pressure in it). This is pretty dangerous if you do not know what you are doing, so good luck to whoever wants to play around with this. BTW, nitrogen is used instead of air because it doesn't have moisture. dry chemical turns into a bunch of clumpy rocks when it is exposed to moisture. Be safe :}
@bigbadklev It's not illegal, you just aren't supposed to and the only difference between refillable and disposable is refillable is a bit sturdier, and the nozzle screws off for the presurizing head, and the guage is marked in PSI and KPA aswell as green/red
I'd like to add something. after cleaning the threads and inspecting the compression oring my units still leaked. I detected this with soapy bubble solution. after 26 years I guess they have just worn out. thanks for the clue about making a better air filler.
OK people who are freaking out saying it wont work, it does!!!! I tryed it and it worked. I had the same extunguisher only it was white not red, and it only put out B and C fires.... so yah...
@sean juth Correct, otherwise it doesn't pressurize it to complete pressure. My compressor only puts out 150 psi and it only pressurized my fire extinguishers to 3/4 full.
Why did that last only about 2 seconds? It looked like it was fully charged with your air hose. Those sizes are supposed to last about 8 or 10 seconds to fully discharge.
Refill them with flour or corn starch and give them to people you don’t like. If they ever use them they will get a grain dust explosion that will blow the roof off their house.
my job is fire and Safety. I recharge extinguishers daily. That is kidde fire extinguishers, they are the dollar tree of extinguishers . your lucky that did not explode. those are no rechargeable extinguishers not safe to do that.
That's a non-rechargeable fire extinguisher.. after it's used u throw it away.. I noticed the pressure gauge is white.. those are disposable and not subject to 6yr maintenances or hydrotests
The extinguisher was originally filled with Sodium Bi-Carbonate Phosphate, which was not the original powder that you dumped out. Sodium Bi-carbonate Phosphate dust is so fine it spreads like crazy through the air when you spill a tiny drop. IDK what you just dumped out. Flour?
I love this video! It's people like you who make my job great. I love being a firefighter and responding to a house fire then being told by the home owner that their self-refilled fire extinguisher didn't work. Not only do I get to see them in pain, but I also get to watch as everything they own go up in smoke. If you do this I hope you lose everything, maybe then you'll understand the importance of following instructions. They're not on them for show people.
this is just flat out stupid on so many levels. Portable extinguishers are pressurized with dry nitrogen, not compressed air. It's monoammonium phosphate-based powder for ABC, consumer-grade baking soda is not used. All dry chemicals have anti-caking agents mixed in them. This is not reliable, and no fire extinguisher dealer will service a unit with a plastic head. Period. Fire extinguisher service is NOT A DIY PROJECT. That aluminum bottle can rupture. I can't believe I'm seeing this.
@npadul30 Make the nozzle smaller with a reducer such as a plastic ring that fits into the nozzle make sure the reducer is secured strongly. If you make the hole about half the original size it will take much longer for it to release the air yet it will retain a considerable amount of volume released.
Explain again the procedure for putting the air in it. Can I just recharge the one I have without opening it? Which handle do I hold or to refill with pressure do I even need to press any handle?
Do you think it's smart filling an extinguisher with air. Last time I checked air feeds a fire. Nitrogen or CO2 displaces oxygen, (helping put the fire out as well). Extinguishers should be filled with nitrogen
if you run a 1/8" NPT tap down that nylon "horn" is what they call it..its the same thread as the blow guns so a 1/8 pipe nipple can make handling the pressure easier. Not responsible if it blows out on you but 100 psi is small. 195 psi I'd watch it doesn't fly out.
As "unsafe" as it is, the people saying that filling it with air is dumb because oxygen fuels fire, this is true, but who's saying its necessarily for fire fighting use again? As a special effects makeup artist, I personally use fire extinguishers to spray blood and other fluids all the time. Fighting fire, dumb. Alternative uses, ehh... a little less dumb. Lol
This type/make of this extinguisher is the most dangerous made. The heads and gauges are well known for blowing off while refilling. Not to smart if you try this.
Congratulations on your creativity only! I've been in the fire extinguisher business for 30 years, EVERYTHING you did was wrong and could have killed you. Trust me...
Andre Gross Actually some of the plastic valve types can be refilled but this unit is disposable and is NOT made to be refillable. The rechargeable types are refilled by removing and completely cleaning the valve, replacing internal parts as needed, verify that the unit is not a recalled extinguisher and check the date for a hydrostatic test requirement, add the proper amount of agent, pressurize with a regulated nitrogen supply using special made recharge adapters, test for leakage. It takes proper training, tools, and supplies to perform it safely and insure that the extinguisher will work if needed. I've personally known people that have lost fingers, eyesight, and had various other injuries due to ruptures. Thanks for asking!
Andre Gross You're welcome! Mild steel dry chemical extinguishers are usually pressure tested at 3 times the gauge pressure (gauge pressure is generally 100PSI to 195PSI) . The burst pressure is about 5 times the gauge pressure.
Can it be re-pressurized with CO2? I'm wondering if air is really OK because it has oxygen in it and wouldn't that make the fire get bigger? The pros use Nitrogen, but I'm fresh out of pure nitrogen.
Hi, I got 1kg ABC fire extinguisher. I would like to turn it into Co2 tank for my planted aquarium. Can I dispose the content "powder" and wash clean, and refill with Co2. It is safe to do?
@thecatofwisdom Question, how much psi could this be filled with...I am planning on using a fire extinguisher as an air tank to honk some train horns of mine. So in this vid it looks like it only lasts like 4 secs but I know other people who use fire extingushers can last about 10 - 15 secs. Any ideas?
He aint showing how to refill the fuckin extinguisher to put out fires he made the video to show how to change it's use to something else like a air gun or to spray shit like paint.
Shut the fuck up dumbass, you can use compressed air to fill it up because the baking soda puts out the fire and the air acts like blowing out the candle so therefore it puts out the fire and you are WRONG.👎👎
Put the air nozzle in hold down the black lever start pressurizing ......Then kaboom there goes your hand.....Look mom no hands....Don't do this period!!!
That seems to be a non rechargeable extinguisher. Also nothing except the original contents shall be used to recharge an extinguisher. Oregon Fire Code and its reference to NFPA Standard for fire extinguishers 10.
200 psi for full pressure. My compressor put out 150 psi and it only charges them back to 75% full of pressure. Which in my eyes is better than nothing.
Where can a person get Nitrogen recharging done or do we have to buy liquid nitrogen and DIY ? CO2, might be an ok alternative ? thanks. Yes air has oxygen in it, so one would think it would just fan the flames
Fill it with diarrhea. Use it if someone gets out of their car and tries to road rage with you.
LOL, farkin Gold bro :)
I filled mine with sawdust, it just made the fire bigger. Pretty cool though
what is the gas u put into the canister? Air from air compressor?
nitrogen, no air
ivan shedden thanks buddy.
yes it is compressed air, but you could use any inert gas
I filled mine with petrol.
Unfortunately the insurance didn't pay out
A correction: The chemical in ABC dry chemical fire extinguishers is monoammonium phosphate. Also, sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) is not rated to put out the same kinds of fires.
Monoammonium phosphate is non-toxic and is classified only as a nuisance dust (just like breathing dust when you are sweeping a dusty floor).
Ok
thanks kid! so much better than putting a schrader valve like i did on mine. I make my own pepperspray. can get a large crowd in one shot with it!
Hopefully no one takes this video seriously. Cool project to make a smoke shooter or something however a dry chemical fire extinguisher must only be recharged with Mono Ammonium Phosphate. The pressurising gas has to be dry Nitrogen as compressed air (Oxygen) is full of moisture (water) over time this can clump the power causing the fire extinguisher not to discharge properly, as well as begin to corrode the interior of the steel cylinder.
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Correct, although if you have a 123 PSI Mono Ammonium Phosphate compressor like me its fine.
At least with these, you could cheat the system. But it won't really be advisable though. 😁 😂 😂 Its highly dangerous if I may say, since other pipz around won't know if that extinguisher is working or not.
Imagine using it as means to cut off a fire, then it actually made the fire worst. 😂
Imagine a fire station system burning. 😂 😂
This guys gonna be on the Darwin awards list very soon.....
Thanks for the video. I would not try to refill my extinguisher this way BUT I do have plans to use an extinguisher to hold compressed air, and this video was helpful.
Aluminum nitrate? That is incorrect. The white powder will either be monoammonium phosphate or sodium bicarbonate.
This one would be ammonium phosphate because it's an abc extinguisher. Bc extinguishers use sodium bicarbonate
Another reason to not use compressed air is that it contains moisture, which may cause the contents to clump and/or foul the nozzle.
Use air from a SCUBA tank.
ABC dry chemical is : monoammonium phosphate, which is yellow. This would have been what was originally in this fire extinguisher. This extinguisher was not intended to be refilled, but discarded. What this guy is doing is a felony in some states, but it's UA-cam - so whatever. It's never a good idea to try to unscrew the valve of ANY pressurized cylinder. (Don't rely on the cheap little gauge to tell you it doesn't have pressure in it). This is pretty dangerous if you do not know what you are doing, so good luck to whoever wants to play around with this. BTW, nitrogen is used instead of air because it doesn't have moisture. dry chemical turns into a bunch of clumpy rocks when it is exposed to moisture. Be safe :}
"but it's UA-cam - so whatever." --This is one of the best phrases I've seen in a long time. I hope you don't mind if I steal it.
Michael V steal on :). I was going to add "ignorance is bliss"
Thanks man
Mark Stafford hi
Mark Stafford, you are the best example of how someone can be smart, yet be such a dumbass that I am stealing your post.
This is totally safe IF you use an ALUMINUM fire extinguisher. Steel extinguishers will rust and explode. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@bigbadklev It's not illegal, you just aren't supposed to
and the only difference between refillable and disposable is refillable is a bit sturdier, and the nozzle screws off for the presurizing head, and the guage is marked in PSI and KPA aswell as green/red
I really hope nobody actually tries to do this... those are meant to be replaced. But cool video.
Thanks for the how to.
Instructions Unclear: I am now homeless😭
The extinguisher demo can cause injury and or death by using unauthorized techniques.
+Alva [Al] Good I agree he should have said to wear safety goggles
+Wil Morris, Even then it would be stupid.
So can, walking your doggy!
I'd like to add something. after cleaning the threads and inspecting the compression oring my units still leaked. I detected this with soapy bubble solution. after 26 years I guess they have just worn out. thanks for the clue about making a better air filler.
what type of air did you use to refill?
is it just a usual air?
and what type of nozzle that was used to refill?^^
OK people who are freaking out saying it wont work, it does!!!! I tryed it and it worked. I had the same extunguisher only it was white not red, and it only put out B and C fires.... so yah...
I love how the end gets cut off! "Joey what the fuck did you do in my kitchen, what are you doing with the fire extinguisher?
Make sure your air compressor can hold more than 200 psi
@sean juth Correct, otherwise it doesn't pressurize it to complete pressure. My compressor only puts out 150 psi and it only pressurized my fire extinguishers to 3/4 full.
Why did that last only about 2 seconds? It looked like it was fully charged with your air hose. Those sizes are supposed to last about 8 or 10 seconds to fully discharge.
When you mix the air with powder less air will flow out at once and it will take longer for the pressure to drop down
Refill them with flour or corn starch and give them to people you don’t like. If they ever use them they will get a grain dust explosion that will blow the roof off their house.
my job is fire and Safety. I recharge extinguishers daily. That is kidde fire extinguishers, they are the dollar tree of extinguishers . your lucky that did not explode. those are no rechargeable extinguishers not safe to do that.
That's a non-rechargeable fire extinguisher.. after it's used u throw it away.. I noticed the pressure gauge is white.. those are disposable and not subject to 6yr maintenances or hydrotests
you could have sipped the corner of the plastic bag off to put the powder back in the fire container!
People keep saying use nitrogen. But in the beginning he said, FOR A AIR GUN!
Eonbree an*
@zipjunkie Now there's a firefighter we want coming to save us. One who wishes the victims he has to go save, lose everything. Give this man a raise!
I thought they said those were disposal fire extinguishers
The extinguisher was originally filled with Sodium Bi-Carbonate Phosphate, which was not the original powder that you dumped out. Sodium Bi-carbonate Phosphate dust is so fine it spreads like crazy through the air when you spill a tiny drop. IDK what you just dumped out. Flour?
That does not mean that it will hold that forever. In fact, that is to be retested every so often.
it's a good video . i used to refill my fire extinguisher all the time .. some times with water just for fun .. thanx man
Can these be refilled with liquid? If what kind of range would it have?
One of these exploded in my car today. Breathed quite of this...
Nice more information
Its really to show how to refill with anything for instance im looking at this so i can fill on with paint ;)
could you refill it with the powder like they use for color runs?
S buchholz yeah, but use Oxygen.
That is exactly what I am trying to do. Is that really possible
yes it is. the extinguisher it self says discar/ replace after use. look it up again and consult a professional.
I love this video! It's people like you who make my job great. I love being a firefighter and responding to a house fire then being told by the home owner that their self-refilled fire extinguisher didn't work. Not only do I get to see them in pain, but I also get to watch as everything they own go up in smoke. If you do this I hope you lose everything, maybe then you'll understand the importance of following instructions. They're not on them for show people.
Thanks ❤
All I want to know? If done right, With caution, can it be done? Because I have so many empty ones and it’s a shame.
i need to fill an exstinguisher with bed bug powder and wait two weeks then vacuum it all up
The name of the video should have been " How to make a Thunder Gun"
this is just flat out stupid on so many levels. Portable extinguishers are pressurized with dry nitrogen, not compressed air. It's monoammonium phosphate-based powder for ABC, consumer-grade baking soda is not used. All dry chemicals have anti-caking agents mixed in them. This is not reliable, and no fire extinguisher dealer will service a unit with a plastic head. Period. Fire extinguisher service is NOT A DIY PROJECT. That aluminum bottle can rupture.
I can't believe I'm seeing this.
@npadul30 Make the nozzle smaller with a reducer such as a plastic ring that fits into the nozzle make sure the reducer is secured strongly. If you make the hole about half the original size it will take much longer for it to release the air yet it will retain a considerable amount of volume released.
Explain again the procedure for putting the air in it. Can I just recharge the one I have without opening it? Which handle do I hold or to refill with pressure do I even need to press any handle?
+n4ktz The expellent should not be air. The type of gas must be what the instructions list. Nitrogen, Argon, are some of the gases to use.
This seems dangerous.
Do you think it's smart filling an extinguisher with air. Last time I checked air feeds a fire. Nitrogen or CO2 displaces oxygen, (helping put the fire out as well). Extinguishers should be filled with nitrogen
Holy Sh*t..... Where the F*UCK is the Fire Marshal?
Cool
if you run a 1/8" NPT tap down that nylon "horn" is what they call it..its the same thread as the blow guns so a 1/8 pipe nipple can make handling the pressure easier. Not responsible if it blows out on you but 100 psi is small. 195 psi I'd watch it doesn't fly out.
As "unsafe" as it is, the people saying that filling it with air is dumb because oxygen fuels fire, this is true, but who's saying its necessarily for fire fighting use again? As a special effects makeup artist, I personally use fire extinguishers to spray blood and other fluids all the time. Fighting fire, dumb. Alternative uses, ehh... a little less dumb. Lol
This type/make of this extinguisher is the most dangerous made. The heads and gauges are well known for blowing off while refilling. Not to smart if you try this.
kek only reason im here is using a fire extinguisher to make an air gun
+Balto Maybe, lol me to
When was the valve stem and valve head seat cleaned?
When do you weight the extinguisher?
Nice,,but forget the paper funnel,,it;s a zip lock bag,,seal the top, turn it over and cut off one corner,, then just let it run into the canister
If you are not supposed to breathe the powder, I would recommend using a mask when you're handling it ;-)
Congratulations on your creativity only! I've been in the fire extinguisher business for 30 years, EVERYTHING you did was wrong and could have killed you. Trust me...
I agree I've only been in it for 6 years, but even I know this is ridiculous
I'm not arguing with you at all, but out of curiosity how would one be properly filled? I don't think plastic ones can be refilled though.
Andre Gross Actually some of the plastic valve types can be refilled but this unit is disposable and is NOT made to be refillable. The rechargeable types are refilled by removing and completely cleaning the valve, replacing internal parts as needed, verify that the unit is not a recalled extinguisher and check the date for a hydrostatic test requirement, add the proper amount of agent, pressurize with a regulated nitrogen supply using special made recharge adapters, test for leakage. It takes proper training, tools, and supplies to perform it safely and insure that the extinguisher will work if needed. I've personally known people that have lost fingers, eyesight, and had various other injuries due to ruptures. Thanks for asking!
Thank you for answering! How mush PSI is a fire extinguisher built to handle (not in the sun).
Andre Gross
You're welcome! Mild steel dry chemical extinguishers are usually pressure tested at 3 times the gauge pressure (gauge pressure is generally 100PSI to 195PSI) . The burst pressure is about 5 times the gauge pressure.
Can it be re-pressurized with CO2? I'm wondering if air is really OK because it has oxygen in it and wouldn't that make the fire get bigger? The pros use Nitrogen, but I'm fresh out of pure nitrogen.
Recipe for disaster in the works.
how many pounds of air pressure did you put in
Hi, I got 1kg ABC fire extinguisher. I would like to turn it into Co2 tank for my planted aquarium. Can I dispose the content "powder" and wash clean, and refill with Co2. It is safe to do?
Probably could kill the fish if any powder is left
Another reason this is stupid is that someone might pick it up to fight a fire and find that it accelerates the fire instead.
its not the air that snuffs it though its the powder (depending on the make and model)
i refilled mine with capsaicinoids, for self defense purpose
to refill it does he use a special type of nozzle ??
plz do fill me in
what is the name of the tool you use in filling the fire extinguisher with air in 3:04 ?
How did the air and powder seperate
@thecatofwisdom
Question, how much psi could this be filled with...I am planning on using a fire extinguisher as an air tank to honk some train horns of mine. So in this vid it looks like it only lasts like 4 secs but I know other people who use fire extingushers can last about 10 - 15 secs. Any ideas?
I filled it with pepper spray XD
No it would not blow up diesel because the air is pre compressed and has no temp 9:25
That extinguisher model is a recall.
So?
Congratulations, you have just made a fire extinguisher that makes the fire bigger. You are supposed to use nitrogen, using air just feeds it.
+A Lollypop ur a dumb ass
THAT POSH ? Prove your point, prove that I am a dumbass.
He aint showing how to refill the fuckin extinguisher to put out fires he made the video to show how to change it's use to something else like a air gun or to spray shit like paint.
THAT POSH The title of the video clearly says "How to refill a fire extinguisher".
*That means the title of the video is wrong, dumbass.*
Shut the fuck up dumbass, you can use compressed air to fill it up because the baking soda puts out the fire and the air acts like blowing out the candle so therefore it puts out the fire and you are WRONG.👎👎
Is it possible to refill it with AFFF?
Put the air nozzle in hold down the black lever start pressurizing ......Then kaboom there goes your hand.....Look mom no hands....Don't do this period!!!
okay so i just filled mine with water and sprayed people
the powder is a mixture of sodium bicarb and aluminum nitrate
reload it with what? with the air compressor?
Aha juat got a homemade krink fire extinguiser!!!!!!! :D
For those saying this is a not rechargeable unit, please look on the upper right of the label at 8:24, it is instructions for refilling this unit...
On the gauge it will say "Discard after Use" because that plastic valve is a price of junk, it will eventually leak off
Jeremiah Johnson Just looked on mine, it does not say that on the valve.
That seems to be a non rechargeable extinguisher. Also nothing except the original contents shall be used to recharge an extinguisher. Oregon Fire Code and its reference to NFPA Standard for fire extinguishers 10.
Why you not test after all..
very cool video!!1
WTF you my friend are leading people down the wrong rabbit hole. Very dangerous topic needs an extinguisher to work 100% of the time.
i have a freakin' FirstAlert extinguisher, and it's only read to recharge at 100 p.s.i.
how many psi does my compressor have to produce. I have a small walmart aircompreesor for filling tire and
for air brushing
200 psi for full pressure. My compressor put out 150 psi and it only charges them back to 75% full of pressure. Which in my eyes is better than nothing.
I filled mines with Cocaine And the Fire got 10X times More AMAZZZING!!!! =DDDD
i love your .... parts bolts nuts tray container stahd.. thing. on the right xD
Dont know what its called.got a higher thinner one. but i love this!!
I thought that they would explode if you filled them to much?
@Captaincaveman67 Isnt it better to let the professionals do that?
Just a tip.
Kid, where's your mum and dad??
I cant get it open?
Gotta be kidding me...
KATSU
Where can a person get Nitrogen recharging done or do we have to buy liquid nitrogen and DIY ? CO2, might be an ok alternative ? thanks. Yes air has oxygen in it, so one would think it would just fan the flames
Oxygen not CO2 to yes there are CO2 extinguishers
give me that bag of coke
+Fucknuts Rene is that you remember smokin cigs down at white fence?
anal is key
+Fucknuts I got a case of fire extinguishers. Real cheap score.
I thought it's called powdered nitrogen
the extinguisher are recharged only whit CO2 GAS!!! air presured only encrease the fire!!
After this procedure, it doe's not keep his pressure.