It's implicit in the original film as well. If memory serves the line comes before Kyle Reese is established definitively as a good guy to Sarah and the audience. Edit: T2 as well, where theres a deliberate inversion of the role that Arnie plays
I think Shockwave would have been able to defeat Skynet. His intelligent, logical mind would have been enough to completely destroy/overwrite Skynet’s program. Turning the entire network of machines and the Terminators into extensions of Shockwave. Starscream could do the same. He was able to wield the power of the Underbase and other cosmic powers throughout the franchise. His ghost has the ability to take over other Cybertronians, even Skynet would be vulnerable to his Spark. There’s also Bombshell’s cerebro shells and expertise with reprogramming. Teletran 1. Wheeljack’s various inventions like the Immobilizer. Not related but that should be Arcee’s car mode. I hate the constant attempt to make the 80s futuristic one work as a toy. It does not work as a toy.
A lot of these crossovers have to dumb down past character achievements to make it fit into the narrative unfortunately. In actuality the transformers would probably decimate a human made AI and all its machinery. Considering how much more advanced the transformers are verses the terminators, if they were written to their full potential the terminators would be absolutely demolished
@@zatharos6427they could simply have made a narrative that the skynet merged itself with some cybertronian technology making it way more dangerous with the knowledge of billions of years but nah
Without the survivors there are only what less than 10 cybertronians left? And only three decepticons? I think it's prefefectly reasonable that they decided to stop fighting.
It’s not that they decided to work together that was the problem. It’s the fact that they went from just trying to kill each other and Thundercracker saying a sec ago you deserved to loose your friends basically. To then Hi fiving together “all for one” lol you gotta admit that’s weird. Thanks for the comment!
@@GoBeyondComics Lore wise...well old lorewise, I don't follow any of the new stuff since they made Optimus a war criminal and the Cybertronians evil "colonizers", etc, Thundercracker IS one of the more chill Decepticons. He's supposed to actually like humans, despite their inability to fly, and isn't 100% behind Megatron's cause.
probably to get his resistance to help in the future only thing and other thing the Transformers robots have to do and can do is to scan the Terminator robots and machines and their time machine which is the time field generator machine then they can beat them all of you show the transformers on the cartoon`s and movie`s and comic book`s that the transformers robot`s can scan other machine and can transform into them they can reach to the past before the Terminator even can stop the transformers and beat them all think in side and out side the box
@@jonathanlociscek3452 An interesting one, considering that in the Original terminator timeline, it has to actually go looking for her, and here, when it doesn't need her, it pretty much drops right on top of her.
The funny part of this story is out of every character in the crossover, the T-800 is the one that did the most damage by destroying the ark and kill every autobot in there. While Megatron and his Decepticons couldn't even do that in the beginning of this story
probably to get his resistance to help in the future only thing and other thing the Transformers robots have to do and can do is to scan the Terminator robots and machines and their time machine which is the time field generator machine then they can beat them all of you show the transformers on the cartoon`s and movie`s and comic book`s that the transformers robot`s can scan other machine and can transform into them they can reach to the past before the Terminator even can stop the transformers and beat them all think in side and out side the box
Megatron attempting to kill an unconscious Prime reminds me of the Beast Wars season 2 finale. How this ends makes one wonder what other timelines are going to be created? So many references in each issue is amazing. I enjoyed your narration, keep up the good work!
Skynet: *uses killer robots disguised as organic humans to infiltrate their enemies* Decepticons: *are killer aliens disguised as synthetic robots to infiltrate their enemies* Yeah, they definitely know how the humans feel now.
Totally terrifying conquerers getting overwhelmed by an EVEN MORE POWERFUL group of enemies is a recurring plot I see a lot in fiction. In the BLADE movies (3rd I think) the vampires had to form a temporary truce and alliance with Blade and his human allies because monsters so powerful that they were eating vampires called REAPERS were such a big threat that they might wipe out humanity AND the vampires. In STAR TREK VOYAGER the crew of the Voyager had to join forces with the Borg to fight a race called SPECIES 8572. There is an irony to an enemy who you are terrified of begging you for help to fight an even bigger threat.
@@GoBeyondComics It would only stand to reason that transformers could use the force, being living beings. Even if they're metallic. General Grievous was mostly machine, and he could use the force.
@@MEAT_CANNON That was a failed blood transfusion from Syfo Dyas. He was NOT force sensitive in either Legends or Disney Canon though Count Dooku did try to do it. The most he can do is is use repulsor lifts in his lower body to be able to float and use 6 lightsabers at once.
@@GoBeyondComics i would say that's true depending on where they did battle. If the cybertronians met the Empire in a galaxy far far away then there may be a problem. But if the Empire found there way here the lack of midichlorians would greatly reduce their force powers.
I kinda like Skynet being the good guys in this scenario, perhaps "good guys'' might not be the right word but since The Human Resistance might not be a thing in this timeline, Skynet could have been the answer to fight The Decepticons in the first place
@@Zurround maybe John could still be born, if they make a sequel to the comic (which they probably will), it could focus on John leading the resistance and Skynet sending those Meg-800s to kill Sarah before he’s born and the autobots could protect her
@@eddiediaz5518 Since this is an alternate universe version with transformers what if the terminators are all GOOD in this story and sided with humanity from the get go?
I wonder why Dark Horse never did a Robocop vs Predator crossover? Seems like a really obvious plot device. A predator shows up in futuristic Detroit similar to what happened in PREDATOR 2 and is hunting and killing people (lots of armed people in a city like this) and Robocop must stop him. Its such an easy plot device compared to Robocop vs Terminator or Alien vs Predator vs Terminator or some of the other crazy crossovers.
I would really love a RvP storyline if it followed the conceits of the first movie and Prey - Predators are strong against technological straightforward opponents, and weak against sneaky primitive opponents. I realize that "Murphy gets the shit kicked out of him and learns something about himself as well as being upgraded" is kinda cliche at this point, but I think it would be neat to see Robocop get his shit kicked in, and rather than being able to rely on superior firepower and sensors, he has to lean into his human side and learn to think like his enemy to prosper rather than overwhelming them. It would make a good counterpart story to the OG Robocop vs. Terminator, where Murphy leans into his status as a machine to defeat Skynet.
@@bearnaff9387 Well unlike the ending of the first Predator movie there is no way that the predator could challenge Robocop to a "fist fight". Robocop would be exponentially stronger and more durable. Predator would have to rely on his technology and long range weapons. At close range Robocop has the advantage. I love your idea of him relying some on his HUMANITY though.
Yeah, the T-8000’s were a interesting concept to counter the Transformers but it went nowhere in the story. It was easily beaten. Someone mentioned G.I Joe Vs SkyNet and that would’ve been a better crossover.
How you'd splice the lores together has me scratching my head, but I can't deny the possibilities of powerful scenes. The Decepticons being disgusted with Skynet as a barely sentient automaton that can't finish what it started with mankind's weapons? The Autobots at first terrifying human survivors as more machines, only to become a beacon of hope in the darkest days? The Decepticons finding even themselves disgusted with the single minded extermination of those who should be minimal threat? Or perhaps they want to eliminate the sparkless Skynet mainly for being competition? Skynet trying to understand WTF is happening? Human survivors focusing fire on an Autobot, only for the Autobot to shoot the Terminator troopers who were about to kill the human survivors, blindsiding Skynet's cannon fodder in the process. There are so many scene-arios that could make for some great panels. They might not make sense in context, but those panels in a vacuum would be cool as heck. Now to start the video and see how/what they do.
There is an IRONY to the decepticons looking down on the Terminators and Skynet as low class trash not even worthy of their respect because from our perspective they are VERY powerful and VERY technologically advanced but the Transformers are so much more powerful with far more advanced technology that to them Skynet is a joke. Probably bigger underdogs than the human resistance was compared to Skynet. Advancement is so damned RELATIVE. A stone age neanderthal would think someone in 1875 using one of the first TELEPHONES is a godlike being but someone using an Iphone13 would laugh at someone using one of those 1875 telephones. Its so damned relative. A 4 on the Kardishev scale civilization would not even take the Transformers seriously.
Yeah, that's what I didn't like about it. It's not used as a threat in the films. It just came across as throwing in a movie reference but changing it to fit the narrative. Thanks for the comment!
9:36 Wow, so Sarah Connor figures out the symbols of the Cybertronian factions which took the dimwitted fleshbags years to even begin to grasp?!? 18:26 Indeed, who's going to tell her?!? LMAO Dark Horse Comics are EFFING GENIOUSES!
Super Robot Wars styled crossover RPG featuring these franchises: Transformers Terminator Robocop Gen:Lock Voltron Power Rangers Pacific Rim Iron Giant Big Guy and Rusty DLC:s: Iron Man Bionicle Hero Factory Robotech Wouldn't that be awesome?! 🤩
How is this for a comic book crossover idea? THUNDERCATS vs Aliens and predator. How about a bunch of XENOMORPHS attack Third Earth and the Thundercats are struggling to fight them off and the mutants and mum-ra realize that the giant xenomorph hive could destroy the whole planets ability to be inhabitable which would ultimately also include THEM so the enemies form a temporary truce and join forces with the agreement that they are mortal enemies again as soon as the xenomorphs have been killed off so its the Thundercats, Mutants and Mumra fighting together against the Xenomorph hive but the Xenomorphs are winning, there are just SO DAMNED MANY OF THEM and there are even multiple "king" and "queen" Xenomorphs too. Right when it looks like they will all be killed a big space ship shows up and its the PREDATORS who join forces with the inhabitants of 3rd Earth and together with the help of the preds they manage to finally defeat the Xenomorphs.
@@Zurround Well with the way the last comic ended, the surviving Autobots and Decepticons banded together as one group. So it may be general Transformers VS Skynet, rather than factions of Transformers.
At first I wasn't sure so I brushed it aside. But now I'm certain. This was written by a G1 fan, he's peppering references all over the place. "Nothing's [bolded] going to stand in my way!" - reference to Kick Axe/Spectre General song in TF:TM. "Now all we need is a little energon, and a lotta luck." - a line spoken by Optimus Prime early in TF:TM. "You're old -- Yesterday's model. Ready for the scrap heap." - a line spoken by Optimus Prime in the first 3-parter episodes of G1's S1.
we found out about the Cybertron wars and many battles on earth now can the Tranaformers defeat Terminator death machines ? Threepio : " my parts are showing oh how embarrassing but how is my performance in this story ? "
Come with me if you want to live does work here. He's saying I'm a terminator and will terminate you if I have no use for you; but if you come with me and help me I'll keep you alive...so come with me if you want to live.
This sounds like it was written by a fan-service hack with no talent for any original storytelling. Hell, the fan-fiction crossover I came up with as a kid made more sense.
"A Single T-800 ends up being this Crossover's MVP..." It would be hilarious if i saw Linkara's critique of Superman VS Terminator before getting into this one.
@@GoBeyondComics I am interested in INDEPENDENCE DAY vs STAR WARS. You know how boxing, wrestling and some other sports have "weight divisions"? Well to use the "weight division" analogy the "City Destroyers" would have to fight Star Destroyers and Super Star Destroyers, the alien attackers would have to fight TIE Fighters and "Alphabet Letter" fighters. Maybe the Alien mother ship could take on the Death star and the armies of aliens in their bio mechanical suits might take on the storm troopers, Mandalorians, and Jedi.
Terminator versus Predator! or... Terminator versus Xenomorph! Or... Sarah Connor versus Ellen Ripley! No, no, wait. I've got it! Xenomorph versus Xena!
How about this for a comic book crossover? The original version of BATTLESTAR GALACTICA does finally reach Earth and the version of Earth that they encounter is the post apocalyptic version from TERMINATOR. The human main characters "Colonial Warriors" among them Starbuck and Apollo drawn to look like Richard Hatch and Dirk Benedict join forces with the ragtag group of humans led by John Connor and provide them with the more advanced technology of the colonial fleet which is basically a 2 on the Kardishev scale and teach them how to use it, even how to fly vipers to attack the terminator strongholds and fight the terminator's aerial vehicles. The humans have all but won and there is about to be a joyous event where the surviving humans of the war against the terminators will have a chance to rebuild the world and as bad as it looks the Galactica and the remnants of humanity that fled Caprica from the Cylons will help rebuild the post apocalyptic Earth into a modern paradise when the Cylons show up in their base stars and the war between the colonial fleet and Cylons resume and when the Cylons realize that the terminators are also machines that want to exterminate humans they join forces with them and it becomes a battle where the Cylons and Terminators are one combined army and the colonial fleet and the human resistance led by John Connor are on the other side. John Connor and Admiral Adamma would have great respect for each other each being a battle hardened leader of their respective people.
That would be cool, but only if it turned out that Skynet had been holding back in order to farm humanity for some purpose and actually had access to fairly advanced spacefaring technologies. Why, you ask? Because the AI that was adapted into parts of Skynet was originally acquired from a one-off project by Knight Industries - their Knight Autonomous Roving Robot - which was itself derived from a crashed alien spacecraft piloted by a silver robot. I'm, of course, talking about the sequel series to Galactica and Galactica 80, Knight Rider. The original Battlestar Galactica takes place in 1978, and Earth is found in 1980. During the much-maligned follow-up Galactica 80, the Cylons make it to Earth and don't destroy it for some reason. By 1982, Knight Industries has developed unfathomably advanced AI and sensor suites and put them into vehicles. The main component of the sensors is the vey obviously Cylon scanner at the front of the vehicle. KITT (and KARR) is adapted Cylon technology. Using this progression in the story allows for awesome bits: Terminators with Larson Scanners that respond to orders with "BY YOUR COMMAND", KITT being installed into a gigantic HK tank, the Galactica crew realizing it was their war that brought this blight to Earth... It's a very easy story to make awesome.
@@bearnaff9387 Damn, Battlestar Galactica, Terminator and KNIGHT RIDER all in the same fictional universe together? Your idea is even more wild than mine. Glen A Larson designed Kitt and the Cylons hence both having that red light that goes back and forth.
@@rwxstudio7173 1. Galactica 1980 sucked so badly that many fans of the show wanted it "expunged" from official continuity. The series of novels written by Richard Hatch also expunged it from continuity. 2. That was not even Starbuck and Apollo. I guess those 2 actors jumped ship, it was different characters who were far less charismatic than Richard Hatch and Dirk Benedict. 3. So what? These Dark Horse crossovers are like non official canon "alternate universe" glorified fan fiction stories so there is no reason why in such a story they could not show up to a different "version" of Earth under different circumstances.
Did a T-800 give Megatron a hard time twice, the it was done dose seem like that's how a Terminator would do it, I do wish it was the T-1000 just to see the reactions of the Decepticons and they had a chance to do a cameo of the T-1,000,000,00 instead of T-8000 but what ever!
I remember initially seeing the cover art of these comics and thinking it was going to be kick-ass. But geez this was just lazy. You can tell the writer had no idea what to do with the terminator besides constant references to the movies
Wow, I can honestly see why this story was never heard of! This story plot is horrible. Thank you though for taking the time and energy to go through it, I can tell it was difficult 😅
All we really see in the story is the T800 which is at the low end. What about the T1000 or TX from T3 or some of the other stuff we saw in the sequels. But yeah, Terminators were created by humans in a fictionalized version of the early 21st century and as advanced as they might be they are still based on the resources and technology of early 21st century Earth. The transformers would be aeons ahead on the "Kardishev scale".
Quite interesting crossover! I don't like at all the treacherous destruction of the Ark and some minor, ridiculous, twists, but overall is a fascinating plot, always dreamed of that kind of crossovers, and would love to see others of the kind!
Not quite a loop. In the original timeline, the Decepticons killed all the Autobots at the start, then took over the Earth. Now, most of the Decepticons are dead, Megatron will try to do it using terminators.
Maybe more gradual? Lose some skin at a time until its all gone? The endoskeleton looked so damned TERRIFYING in the final scenes of the first movie but this alternate universe version of Sarah Connor never got traumatized by him as badly, she knew that the guy he killed was a piece of crap and shed no tears for him and yes he kidnapped her but she was not tortured or harmed by him other than the fact that she was at first taken against her will. She was even physically helping him, dragging him out of the wreckage. She was not terrified of him like the other universe version of her.
I love the concept of the Terminators being the GOOD GUYS the last line of defence that humanity built against the Decpticons. that was an amazing twist also Super Sized Termianators!
@@GoBeyondComics Oh, it made my eyes roll every time they had to depower Superman so much, just because the writers couldn't think of any way to make the story interesting without direct combat between Superman and the threat. But, I suppose that's what rushed storycrafting looks like: No time to actually develop intelligent plot, so fast kludging has to be done in order to get an issue out the door fast.
Why would the Terminator need Sarah? It's not just lazy writing, it's shoe horning in a useless character, so they can profit off of a franchise they did not create. It's a cash grab produced by lazy writers.
Realistically, terminators should be a problem for cybertronians given their name and purpose (adaptation and intelligence). I'd assume that a t-8000 would be as troubling to a decepticon as a standard t-800 would be to a regular human soldier.
I think sometimes sure the plot holes and silly ness is countered by " OMG fan service and look at these cool explosions and omg Sarah Connor being a bamf" sure it's kinda silly but at same time it's terminator with Connor and auto bots vs decacaptions still a fun time lol
After all of these years waiting for a crossover, I was so disappointed by this story. Why are Skynet and its terminators so... human? It's impossible to believe the author was familiar with the Terminator franchise or its lore.
What do you mean by "human"? Their speaking "English" to each other is just ARTISTIC LICENSE so that we human readers can tell what information they communicate. In the reality of the story its computer code.
It wasn't the use of English by the T-800's, it was the emotionality of their dialogue. I understand that this very different example of Skynet might very well have programmed the Terminators differently due to a lack of the paranoia in this scenario, but it still feels untrue to the source material. By paranoia, I mean that the T-800's had powerful AI's but those AI's were crippled by Skynet out of fear of rebellion. A Skynet created to battle enemy AIs might have less fear of its creations running amok and siding with the enemy as Skynet's not engaging in a war to eliminate every intelligence that isn't it.
@@bearnaff9387 One thing I loved about the 2nd movie is that the T800 developed a degree of emotion. He loved the boy and his mother to a degree symbolized by him saying that he understands why people cry even if it is something he could not do. He could never feel emotion fully at a human level but he ended up feeling a lesser degree of it. He CARED about them and humanity to an extent beyond just a machine following its programming. Maybe in this story that was symbolized by him shouting that freedom is the right of all sentient beings. I would have loved a scene where he saves Sarah's life due to feeling a degree of compassion for her even if it is not part of his mission objective.
@@Zurround T2 was the movie that also introduced the idea that "default" Terminators were not capable of learning these things. There's a deleted scene in the movie (Featuring Leslie Hamilton, Linda's identical twin sister) where a physical toggle is switched on Uncle Bob's processor to enable learning in the field. This is contradicted by Carl's emotional growth in Terminator Salvation - but like all right-thinking people I refuse to recognize the existence of anything more than one remove from T2 to be canon. (I.E. Terminator, Terminator 2, Terminator 3, and Terminator: the Sarah Connor Chronicles)
@@bearnaff9387 I saw that scene but I am glad it was deleted because part of the BEAUTY of the story for me was that the NATURE of his programming, to protect rather than kill and the nurturing experiences he had with the boy and his mother made him a better "person" than his predecessor. I kind of feel that the "brain surgery" scene kind of ruined the beauty of that. And Sarah almost killing him when he was vulnerable kind of pissed me off. Yes I know she did not like him at first but give me a break, he had just saved her and her son's life and she knew by then that the T1000 was way more dangerous. Being THAT STUPID even if she made a 51/49 decision not to kill the T800 and even then only because her son angrily told her off. Her doing something that dumb felt forced and out of character for her even factoring into the equation her reasons to hate the T800
The one thing to notice is the Transformers can't deal with a single T2000 let along an army of them. But as you said a lot of lazy writers just doing what they can to get paid are what we have left writing stories now.
the problem is that skynet doesn't take over a dead optimus prime merging the programs and gaining a foothold. I mean if you watch the movies skynet is always looking to evolve and grow.
"Soundwave, Skywarp, and Starscream, are all still continuing to have a hard time taking out the Terminator, I just like really having a hard time believing this." Consider G1. They all shoot like SW Stormtrooper defunct clones. And Cybertronian weapons have demonstrated to be mostly...rather weak (depending on the author d'jour). Meanwhile, T-800 that has athletics programming is able to move twice as fast as a normal human. It's like trying to swat a really nimble fly. Also, it's very highly durable. That tritanium-tungsten endo-skeleton can really take a beating and dampens some of the energy/kinetic forces. If it had its plasma rifle weaponry (or one of Cable's guns) it could likely cause some serious damage.
The late 90's i found a Fan Transformers site it had all 80 of Marvel's Transformers Comics and the Mini wtories . And G2 12 issues then had some of the 86 Movie unused script scenes that later turned up .This part not sure if it was fan art to it had Jazz with armor on in Vehicle mode he looked Rodimus Prime . Prowl as a kid was may favorite Transformer it had a upgraded Prowl but now Vehicle mode. This is how i found the site there is a rumor in one the 86 Movie scripts Soundwave was going melt some how and i looked way back then. Also the site had a Fan made 4 part Mini series domic that hada Decepticon Civil War . The comic started with Blitzwing , Soundwave, his tapes , Dirge ,Ramjet Thrust going inside Unicron 's head . They find a hidden room that had Megatron , Skywarp, Thundercracker with new bodies . Megatron looked like the G2 toy and Thundercracker & Skywarp also ha updated looking bodies . When part 2 started Megatron & Galavatron started to fight and it was season 1 & 2 some season 3 vs Season 3 & 4 comic 2 to the end of 4 was nothing but fighting how the story end Megatron & Galavatron fighting merged in to one robot . The comic said Megatron was Spilt in two and Galavatron was the most violent parts of Megatron . When Megatron & Galavatron where fighting both merged back in to one Robot . Cyclonus Skywarp & Scourge Thundercracker both merged to. The 3 Incesticons where alive in the battle the Sweeps turned in to the 4 Incesticons that got toys never showed up in the show so there was 7 of them now
Re: Ravage Yeah that wouldn't have worked at all. Mild inconvenience is what would occur for Ravage from a point-blank bullet that couldn't even come out of the muzzle since it was pressed against his upper jaw. A jaw which, I'll remind, is made out of a steel-alloy that is strong enough to stop Earth-made armour-piercing tank shells and small energy weapons. Even assuming that that it could cause harm, in the panel where she holds it against Ravage's jaw - the angle at which it is being pressed against it, would cause the bullet to go straight upwards, no where near Ravage's CPU. It would just exit upwards from the jaw and into the air.
I wonder what the comic book version of studio interferences because that shore happened this time. At least this one didn't mess me up like shattered glass or death of autocracy.
Thanks for doing this video. I enjoyed it. I have the same critiques as you but with one extra... I grew up with Transformers. The toys, the cartoon and the comics, and the G1 Autobots did not have Arcee, Grimlock or the other female Autobot. They all came later. So the change in the roster took me out of the story a little. I would've liked to have seen Ironhide and Jazz instead of the ladies.
Dark Fate Sarah bad ass? Dark Fate Sarah was weak AF and alcoholic. DARK Fate sucked. Wasn't a terminator movie. No Skynet, No terminators is a story of just time traveling killer robots, not a terminator film.
I'm pretty sure I said that clip was badass, said nothing about the film at all. You can disagree about the scene but that is my opinion. Thanks for the comment.
I wondered about the biologicals... starcraft zerg vs primal zerg vs 40k tyranids vs halo floodect.. what's the most dangerous biological that would come out on top. Zerg have spawing pools and genetic adapting to overcome the dangers of other things.. but eating each other is what all these guys do to grow. So who's at the top of the food chain and able to overcome the worst of the worst?
I saw the coast of Oregon thing and was like huh? Why specifically Oregon in a transformers comic, then I saw the dark horse comics on the covers and then it made sense lol
Yeah the story and ending did seem rushed with some moments that don’t really make sense, but it was a fun and interesting crossover and the art is great i enjoyed it plus the cover art for this comic is sick
To me, Skynet wouldn't last against the transformers. But I guess it's epic nonetheless. But I'm going to say, that T-800 is a complete arse for destroying the Ark.
The context of "come with me if you want to live" here isn't lazy writing, it's satirical. You have a terminator, smiling, giving the line of the hero in the movies, but in this context, to Sarah, he is the hero but more so he is the villain. So, to me, it's funny that he is saying the line, while smiling, because he is saving her from death, by his hands lol. Maybe I'm putting too much thought into but it seemed pretty clever to me.
I think the "Come with me line" would have worked better as a threat, like "Come with me *cocks gun* if you want to live that is"
Genius! That would’ve been a lot better!
Feel like that was the intention, what with the gun still pointing at her. Still, the delivery felt a bit flat.
It's implicit in the original film as well. If memory serves the line comes before Kyle Reese is established definitively as a good guy to Sarah and the audience.
Edit: T2 as well, where theres a deliberate inversion of the role that Arnie plays
The whole point of the line is that it's vague. It could be a threat or a warning. Frankly it works just fine in the comic.
@@AnonEyeMouse True enough. It's not the line, it's the art it's paired to.
I think Shockwave would have been able to defeat Skynet. His intelligent, logical mind would have been enough to completely destroy/overwrite Skynet’s program. Turning the entire network of machines and the Terminators into extensions of Shockwave.
Starscream could do the same. He was able to wield the power of the Underbase and other cosmic powers throughout the franchise. His ghost has the ability to take over other Cybertronians, even Skynet would be vulnerable to his Spark.
There’s also Bombshell’s cerebro shells and expertise with reprogramming. Teletran 1. Wheeljack’s various inventions like the Immobilizer.
Not related but that should be Arcee’s car mode. I hate the constant attempt to make the 80s futuristic one work as a toy. It does not work as a toy.
I thought for sure we would see Soundwave do something with SkyNet, but I was wrong. Thanks for the comment!
A lot of these crossovers have to dumb down past character achievements to make it fit into the narrative unfortunately. In actuality the transformers would probably decimate a human made AI and all its machinery. Considering how much more advanced the transformers are verses the terminators, if they were written to their full potential the terminators would be absolutely demolished
@@zatharos6427they could simply have made a narrative that the skynet merged itself with some cybertronian technology making it way more dangerous with the knowledge of billions of years but nah
Without the survivors there are only what less than 10 cybertronians left? And only three decepticons? I think it's prefefectly reasonable that they decided to stop fighting.
It’s not that they decided to work together that was the problem. It’s the fact that they went from just trying to kill each other and Thundercracker saying a sec ago you deserved to loose your friends basically. To then Hi fiving together “all for one” lol you gotta admit that’s weird. Thanks for the comment!
@@GoBeyondComics Lore wise...well old lorewise, I don't follow any of the new stuff since they made Optimus a war criminal and the Cybertronians evil "colonizers", etc, Thundercracker IS one of the more chill Decepticons.
He's supposed to actually like humans, despite their inability to fly, and isn't 100% behind Megatron's cause.
probably to get his resistance to help in the future only thing and other thing the Transformers robots have to do and can do is to scan the Terminator robots and machines and their time machine which is the time field generator machine then they can beat them all of you show the transformers on the cartoon`s and movie`s and comic book`s that the transformers robot`s can scan other machine and can transform into them they can reach to the past before the Terminator even can stop the transformers and beat them all think in side and out side the box
Good question if John Connors resistance doesn't exist in this universe why did the Terminator bother to get Sarah Connor
It didn't come for her. She really was just in the wrong place at the wrong time
@@GoBeyondComics well that's funny
Fan service
Coincidence it looks like
@@jonathanlociscek3452 An interesting one, considering that in the Original terminator timeline, it has to actually go looking for her, and here, when it doesn't need her, it pretty much drops right on top of her.
The funny part of this story is out of every character in the crossover, the T-800 is the one that did the most damage by destroying the ark and kill every autobot in there. While Megatron and his Decepticons couldn't even do that in the beginning of this story
Well, T-800 is committed as a war criminal now, isn't it?
This is very true lol you’re not wrong.
Man's got plot armor made out of vibranium
The joke was the Terminator needed to kill Megatron to make him into skynet to guarantee his own future
probably to get his resistance to help in the future only thing and other thing the Transformers robots have to do and can do is to scan the Terminator robots and machines and their time machine which is the time field generator machine then they can beat them all of you show the transformers on the cartoon`s and movie`s and comic book`s that the transformers robot`s can scan other machine and can transform into them they can reach to the past before the Terminator even can stop the transformers and beat them all think in side and out side the box
Megatron attempting to kill an unconscious Prime reminds me of the Beast Wars season 2 finale. How this ends makes one wonder what other timelines are going to be created? So many references in each issue is amazing. I enjoyed your narration, keep up the good work!
Sorry for the late response! Thank you for the compliment! G.I Joe vs Transformers will be coming soon!
@@GoBeyondComics when cobra commander realises starscream stole his voice
Bro not even a minute into the video and they've killed Jazz AGAIN.
This abuse has to stop 😭😭😭
Lmao, yeah we didn't even get him in the past.
Sky net as the resistance is def a interesting concept
Now they know what the humans feel
Skynet: *uses killer robots disguised as organic humans to infiltrate their enemies*
Decepticons: *are killer aliens disguised as synthetic robots to infiltrate their enemies*
Yeah, they definitely know how the humans feel now.
Totally terrifying conquerers getting overwhelmed by an EVEN MORE POWERFUL group of enemies is a recurring plot I see a lot in fiction. In the BLADE movies (3rd I think) the vampires had to form a temporary truce and alliance with Blade and his human allies because monsters so powerful that they were eating vampires called REAPERS were such a big threat that they might wipe out humanity AND the vampires. In STAR TREK VOYAGER the crew of the Voyager had to join forces with the Borg to fight a race called SPECIES 8572. There is an irony to an enemy who you are terrified of begging you for help to fight an even bigger threat.
Could the galactic Empire in Star Wars survive a war against Transformers or would the death star become a new form body to Unicron himself ?
The Empire wouldn't know what hit them. The only problem for the Transformers may be force users
@@GoBeyondComics It would only stand to reason that transformers could use the force, being living beings. Even if they're metallic. General Grievous was mostly machine, and he could use the force.
@@MEAT_CANNON Where did you hear that?
@@MEAT_CANNON That was a failed blood transfusion from Syfo Dyas. He was NOT force sensitive in either Legends or Disney Canon though Count Dooku did try to do it. The most he can do is is use repulsor lifts in his lower body to be able to float and use 6 lightsabers at once.
@@GoBeyondComics i would say that's true depending on where they did battle.
If the cybertronians met the Empire in a galaxy far far away then there may be a problem. But if the Empire found there way here the lack of midichlorians would greatly reduce their force powers.
I kinda like Skynet being the good guys in this scenario, perhaps "good guys'' might not be the right word but since The Human Resistance might not be a thing in this timeline, Skynet could have been the answer to fight The Decepticons in the first place
Yeah it was a great twist. Thanks for the comment!
Would be funny if She ended up marrying some guy named "kyle reese" and they have a son named John but they are just kind of regular people.
@@Zurround maybe John could still be born, if they make a sequel to the comic (which they probably will), it could focus on John leading the resistance and Skynet sending those Meg-800s to kill Sarah before he’s born and the autobots could protect her
@@eddiediaz5518 Since this is an alternate universe version with transformers what if the terminators are all GOOD in this story and sided with humanity from the get go?
@@Zurround Well that's possible, and logic would dictate that the Decepticons pose a greater threat.
I wonder why Dark Horse never did a Robocop vs Predator crossover? Seems like a really obvious plot device. A predator shows up in futuristic Detroit similar to what happened in PREDATOR 2 and is hunting and killing people (lots of armed people in a city like this) and Robocop must stop him. Its such an easy plot device compared to Robocop vs Terminator or Alien vs Predator vs Terminator or some of the other crazy crossovers.
Yeah, that would be awesome! I would’ve love to see that.
I would really love a RvP storyline if it followed the conceits of the first movie and Prey - Predators are strong against technological straightforward opponents, and weak against sneaky primitive opponents. I realize that "Murphy gets the shit kicked out of him and learns something about himself as well as being upgraded" is kinda cliche at this point, but I think it would be neat to see Robocop get his shit kicked in, and rather than being able to rely on superior firepower and sensors, he has to lean into his human side and learn to think like his enemy to prosper rather than overwhelming them. It would make a good counterpart story to the OG Robocop vs. Terminator, where Murphy leans into his status as a machine to defeat Skynet.
@@bearnaff9387 Well unlike the ending of the first Predator movie there is no way that the predator could challenge Robocop to a "fist fight". Robocop would be exponentially stronger and more durable. Predator would have to rely on his technology and long range weapons. At close range Robocop has the advantage. I love your idea of him relying some on his HUMANITY though.
I would think that skynet is far inferior to cybertronians and would just be taken over by decepticons
Yeah, the T-8000’s were a interesting concept to counter the Transformers but it went nowhere in the story. It was easily beaten. Someone mentioned G.I Joe Vs SkyNet and that would’ve been a better crossover.
@@GoBeyondComics yeah I agree
How you'd splice the lores together has me scratching my head, but I can't deny the possibilities of powerful scenes. The Decepticons being disgusted with Skynet as a barely sentient automaton that can't finish what it started with mankind's weapons? The Autobots at first terrifying human survivors as more machines, only to become a beacon of hope in the darkest days? The Decepticons finding even themselves disgusted with the single minded extermination of those who should be minimal threat? Or perhaps they want to eliminate the sparkless Skynet mainly for being competition? Skynet trying to understand WTF is happening? Human survivors focusing fire on an Autobot, only for the Autobot to shoot the Terminator troopers who were about to kill the human survivors, blindsiding Skynet's cannon fodder in the process.
There are so many scene-arios that could make for some great panels. They might not make sense in context, but those panels in a vacuum would be cool as heck.
Now to start the video and see how/what they do.
There is an IRONY to the decepticons looking down on the Terminators and Skynet as low class trash not even worthy of their respect because from our perspective they are VERY powerful and VERY technologically advanced but the Transformers are so much more powerful with far more advanced technology that to them Skynet is a joke. Probably bigger underdogs than the human resistance was compared to Skynet. Advancement is so damned RELATIVE. A stone age neanderthal would think someone in 1875 using one of the first TELEPHONES is a godlike being but someone using an Iphone13 would laugh at someone using one of those 1875 telephones. Its so damned relative. A 4 on the Kardishev scale civilization would not even take the Transformers seriously.
I feel like the line "come with me if you want to live" could still work. It's basically him saying "help me save the world if you don't want to die."
Or a threat since he essentially KIDNAPPED her, like I will kill you if you don't come.
Or come with me or I'll shoot you
Very nice art-work and the colors, that deserves a good credit itself.
But story-wise it did not work for me.
If Skynet isn't fighting against humans, there's no reason to create cyborg infiltrators. Whole thing is pointless.
The “come with me if you want to live” line still works, it’s just a threat here instead of an offer
Yeah, that's what I didn't like about it. It's not used as a threat in the films. It just came across as throwing in a movie reference but changing it to fit the narrative. Thanks for the comment!
Terminator driving optimus prime....love it
Thanks for the comment!
This would make a brilliant movie with a few adjustments
I agree! Thanks for comment
Skynet still will kill humanity after killing a show that sells toys
9:36 Wow, so Sarah Connor figures out the symbols of the Cybertronian factions which took the dimwitted fleshbags years to even begin to grasp?!?
18:26 Indeed, who's going to tell her?!? LMAO
Dark Horse Comics are EFFING GENIOUSES!
Lol true! Thanks for the comment!
The plot armor is strong within Sarah Conner.
Super Robot Wars styled crossover RPG featuring these franchises:
Transformers
Terminator
Robocop
Gen:Lock
Voltron
Power Rangers
Pacific Rim
Iron Giant
Big Guy and Rusty
DLC:s:
Iron Man
Bionicle
Hero Factory
Robotech
Wouldn't that be awesome?! 🤩
Please cover the king grimlock storyline
Maybe I will, I actually have to go back and read it.
How is this for a comic book crossover idea? THUNDERCATS vs Aliens and predator. How about a bunch of XENOMORPHS attack Third Earth and the Thundercats are struggling to fight them off and the mutants and mum-ra realize that the giant xenomorph hive could destroy the whole planets ability to be inhabitable which would ultimately also include THEM so the enemies form a temporary truce and join forces with the agreement that they are mortal enemies again as soon as the xenomorphs have been killed off so its the Thundercats, Mutants and Mumra fighting together against the Xenomorph hive but the Xenomorphs are winning, there are just SO DAMNED MANY OF THEM and there are even multiple "king" and "queen" Xenomorphs too. Right when it looks like they will all be killed a big space ship shows up and its the PREDATORS who join forces with the inhabitants of 3rd Earth and together with the help of the preds they manage to finally defeat the Xenomorphs.
Sounds like a good idea.
I can tell you don't like the terminator franchise very much.
I've been hoping for a while now that this comic gets a sequel. It really deserves one
I wonder how the TX from Terminator 3 or a T1000 would do against the decepticons?
@@Zurround Well with the way the last comic ended, the surviving Autobots and Decepticons banded together as one group. So it may be general Transformers VS Skynet, rather than factions of Transformers.
Is this a joke? One transformer alone would stomp a terminator like a roach
At first I wasn't sure so I brushed it aside. But now I'm certain.
This was written by a G1 fan, he's peppering references all over the place.
"Nothing's [bolded] going to stand in my way!" - reference to Kick Axe/Spectre General song in TF:TM.
"Now all we need is a little energon, and a lotta luck." - a line spoken by Optimus Prime early in TF:TM.
"You're old -- Yesterday's model. Ready for the scrap heap." - a line spoken by Optimus Prime in the first 3-parter episodes of G1's S1.
we found out about the Cybertron wars and many battles on earth now can the Tranaformers defeat Terminator death machines ?
Threepio : " my parts are showing oh how embarrassing but how is my performance in this story ? "
Pretty sure even one of the Cassetteicons could defeat a Terminator.
Easily! Thanks for the comment!
SKYNET's base is assaulted by some of the most dangerous Decepticons. Oh, and Starscream, too.
Come with me if you want to live does work here. He's saying I'm a terminator and will terminate you if I have no use for you; but if you come with me and help me I'll keep you alive...so come with me if you want to live.
This sounds like it was written by a fan-service hack with no talent for any original storytelling. Hell, the fan-fiction crossover I came up with as a kid made more sense.
Not gonna lie “fan-service hack” made me laugh. Thanks for the comment
Cybertron is Decepticons & Earth is SKYNET.
"A Single T-800 ends up being this Crossover's MVP..."
It would be hilarious if i saw Linkara's critique of Superman VS Terminator before getting into this one.
They should do...
- G.I. Joe vs Skynet
- Transformers & The War of the Worlds
Now GI Joe Vs SkyNet sounds a lot more interesting. That would’ve been so much better I think
@@GoBeyondComics I am interested in INDEPENDENCE DAY vs STAR WARS. You know how boxing, wrestling and some other sports have "weight divisions"? Well to use the "weight division" analogy the "City Destroyers" would have to fight Star Destroyers and Super Star Destroyers, the alien attackers would have to fight TIE Fighters and "Alphabet Letter" fighters. Maybe the Alien mother ship could take on the Death star and the armies of aliens in their bio mechanical suits might take on the storm troopers, Mandalorians, and Jedi.
Optimus prime: one shall stand, one shall fall.
Megatron: I'll Crush you wit my fear hands!
I've often wondered who would win, the Terminator V a Predator, or Terminator V the Xenomorph
Terminator Vs Predator would be interesting. Thanks for the comment!
Terminator versus Predator! or... Terminator versus Xenomorph! Or... Sarah Connor versus Ellen Ripley!
No, no, wait. I've got it! Xenomorph versus Xena!
It’s actually a pretty cool concept I’m a fan of both and really like that they actually made the transformers real.
It was garbage
T-800 Endoskeletons Obay Megatron.
Both leaders of SKYNET & Decepticons.
How about this for a comic book crossover? The original version of BATTLESTAR GALACTICA does finally reach Earth and the version of Earth that they encounter is the post apocalyptic version from TERMINATOR. The human main characters "Colonial Warriors" among them Starbuck and Apollo drawn to look like Richard Hatch and Dirk Benedict join forces with the ragtag group of humans led by John Connor and provide them with the more advanced technology of the colonial fleet which is basically a 2 on the Kardishev scale and teach them how to use it, even how to fly vipers to attack the terminator strongholds and fight the terminator's aerial vehicles. The humans have all but won and there is about to be a joyous event where the surviving humans of the war against the terminators will have a chance to rebuild the world and as bad as it looks the Galactica and the remnants of humanity that fled Caprica from the Cylons will help rebuild the post apocalyptic Earth into a modern paradise when the Cylons show up in their base stars and the war between the colonial fleet and Cylons resume and when the Cylons realize that the terminators are also machines that want to exterminate humans they join forces with them and it becomes a battle where the Cylons and Terminators are one combined army and the colonial fleet and the human resistance led by John Connor are on the other side. John Connor and Admiral Adamma would have great respect for each other each being a battle hardened leader of their respective people.
That would be cool, but only if it turned out that Skynet had been holding back in order to farm humanity for some purpose and actually had access to fairly advanced spacefaring technologies. Why, you ask? Because the AI that was adapted into parts of Skynet was originally acquired from a one-off project by Knight Industries - their Knight Autonomous Roving Robot - which was itself derived from a crashed alien spacecraft piloted by a silver robot.
I'm, of course, talking about the sequel series to Galactica and Galactica 80, Knight Rider. The original Battlestar Galactica takes place in 1978, and Earth is found in 1980. During the much-maligned follow-up Galactica 80, the Cylons make it to Earth and don't destroy it for some reason. By 1982, Knight Industries has developed unfathomably advanced AI and sensor suites and put them into vehicles. The main component of the sensors is the vey obviously Cylon scanner at the front of the vehicle. KITT (and KARR) is adapted Cylon technology.
Using this progression in the story allows for awesome bits: Terminators with Larson Scanners that respond to orders with "BY YOUR COMMAND", KITT being installed into a gigantic HK tank, the Galactica crew realizing it was their war that brought this blight to Earth... It's a very easy story to make awesome.
@@bearnaff9387 Damn, Battlestar Galactica, Terminator and KNIGHT RIDER all in the same fictional universe together? Your idea is even more wild than mine. Glen A Larson designed Kitt and the Cylons hence both having that red light that goes back and forth.
You do realize that they do make it to Earth in the original BSG, yes? Starbuck and Apollo even drive around on Colonial issue motorcycles.
@@rwxstudio7173 1. Galactica 1980 sucked so badly that many fans of the show wanted it "expunged" from official continuity. The series of novels written by Richard Hatch also expunged it from continuity. 2. That was not even Starbuck and Apollo. I guess those 2 actors jumped ship, it was different characters who were far less charismatic than Richard Hatch and Dirk Benedict. 3. So what? These Dark Horse crossovers are like non official canon "alternate universe" glorified fan fiction stories so there is no reason why in such a story they could not show up to a different "version" of Earth under different circumstances.
Man even in a world where sarah connor isnt the target the girl just cant catch a break
Just to blow up the freaking ark is insane. And also Megatron being killed by the terminator by piercing his chest is funny and ridiculous.
This was a fun crossover I never knew existed thanks a bunch for sharing it I'm going to have to try to add it to my collection
No, thank you for checking it out. I’m glad you enjoyed it!
I love Arcee's design in this comic, not only is there an awesome alt-mode. But the kibble management is much better than the original G1 design
Did a T-800 give Megatron a hard time twice, the it was done dose seem like that's how a Terminator would do it, I do wish it was the T-1000 just to see the reactions of the Decepticons and they had a chance to do a cameo of the T-1,000,000,00 instead of T-8000 but what ever!
The transformers have been fighting for millions of years so there combat experiences are going to greatly outmatch most opponents they come across
Very true, I didn't think about thah. Thanks for the comment!
9:15 maybe he's weave nation certified
I remember initially seeing the cover art of these comics and thinking it was going to be kick-ass. But geez this was just lazy. You can tell the writer had no idea what to do with the terminator besides constant references to the movies
You hit the nail on the head. I agree with that. Thanks for the comment!
Wow, I can honestly see why this story was never heard of! This story plot is horrible. Thank you though for taking the time and energy to go through it, I can tell it was difficult 😅
I did my best lol! Thanks for the comment!
Terminator vs TF is like Godzilla vs the Jaegers
Godzilla being the Transformers. They'd demolish the terminators.
All we really see in the story is the T800 which is at the low end. What about the T1000 or TX from T3 or some of the other stuff we saw in the sequels. But yeah, Terminators were created by humans in a fictionalized version of the early 21st century and as advanced as they might be they are still based on the resources and technology of early 21st century Earth. The transformers would be aeons ahead on the "Kardishev scale".
Quite interesting crossover! I don't like at all the treacherous destruction of the Ark and some minor, ridiculous, twists, but overall is a fascinating plot, always dreamed of that kind of crossovers, and would love to see others of the kind!
The concept is great, it just wasn’t executed well. Thanks for the comment!
This isn't a cliffhanger ending, its a god damn time loop ending!!!
Not quite a loop. In the original timeline, the Decepticons killed all the Autobots at the start, then took over the Earth. Now, most of the Decepticons are dead, Megatron will try to do it using terminators.
I hate that the terminator was reduced to its endoskeleton so quickly
Maybe more gradual? Lose some skin at a time until its all gone? The endoskeleton looked so damned TERRIFYING in the final scenes of the first movie but this alternate universe version of Sarah Connor never got traumatized by him as badly, she knew that the guy he killed was a piece of crap and shed no tears for him and yes he kidnapped her but she was not tortured or harmed by him other than the fact that she was at first taken against her will. She was even physically helping him, dragging him out of the wreckage. She was not terrified of him like the other universe version of her.
Skynet would wipe the floor with transformers.
I love the concept of the Terminators being the GOOD GUYS the last line of defence that humanity built against the Decpticons. that was an amazing twist also Super Sized Termianators!
Thanks for making this video I appreciate it. But this story does suck. A Terminator wouldn’t be able to do anything. The ending was OK though.
King Grimm lock( Other Dino-bots )
Dark Horse narratives have always had odd story problems. Batman and Superman crossovers with Dark Horse are the same.
Oh I wasn’t aware for that. Thank you!
@@GoBeyondComics Oh, it made my eyes roll every time they had to depower Superman so much, just because the writers couldn't think of any way to make the story interesting without direct combat between Superman and the threat. But, I suppose that's what rushed storycrafting looks like: No time to actually develop intelligent plot, so fast kludging has to be done in order to get an issue out the door fast.
It wasn't lazy writing. He gave her the choice. Get in the truck, or get got. No witnesses. Seems like he learn tact and pragmatism.
Why would the Terminator need Sarah? It's not just lazy writing, it's shoe horning in a useless character, so they can profit off of a franchise they did not create. It's a cash grab produced by lazy writers.
I wonder if he ever notices that the truck the terminator drove into the ship literally was the truck the original Optimus Prime was disguised as.
Realistically, terminators should be a problem for cybertronians given their name and purpose (adaptation and intelligence). I'd assume that a t-8000 would be as troubling to a decepticon as a standard t-800 would be to a regular human soldier.
Old school Robocop Vs. The Terminator was better IMO
I LOVE IT!!! Thank you for bringing these comics to you tube so all can njoy these stories! do you do GI JOE?
I’m actually gonna be dropping Part 1 of Gi Joe Vs Transformers soon
@@GoBeyondComics awesome! hopefully u will do GI JOE also,,,please lol
@@GoBeyondComics What kind of Cinematic Universe would you like to see in theaters?
I think sometimes sure the plot holes and silly ness is countered by " OMG fan service and look at these cool explosions and omg Sarah Connor being a bamf" sure it's kinda silly but at same time it's terminator with Connor and auto bots vs decacaptions still a fun time lol
Definitely agree, I didn't hate it. It's a wild ride that you'll enjoy or hate. Thanks for the comment!
*SO MUCH WASTED STORY POTENTIAL!*
Yeah I agree. Thanks for the comment!
After all of these years waiting for a crossover, I was so disappointed by this story. Why are Skynet and its terminators so... human? It's impossible to believe the author was familiar with the Terminator franchise or its lore.
What do you mean by "human"? Their speaking "English" to each other is just ARTISTIC LICENSE so that we human readers can tell what information they communicate. In the reality of the story its computer code.
It wasn't the use of English by the T-800's, it was the emotionality of their dialogue. I understand that this very different example of Skynet might very well have programmed the Terminators differently due to a lack of the paranoia in this scenario, but it still feels untrue to the source material. By paranoia, I mean that the T-800's had powerful AI's but those AI's were crippled by Skynet out of fear of rebellion. A Skynet created to battle enemy AIs might have less fear of its creations running amok and siding with the enemy as Skynet's not engaging in a war to eliminate every intelligence that isn't it.
@@bearnaff9387 One thing I loved about the 2nd movie is that the T800 developed a degree of emotion. He loved the boy and his mother to a degree symbolized by him saying that he understands why people cry even if it is something he could not do. He could never feel emotion fully at a human level but he ended up feeling a lesser degree of it. He CARED about them and humanity to an extent beyond just a machine following its programming. Maybe in this story that was symbolized by him shouting that freedom is the right of all sentient beings. I would have loved a scene where he saves Sarah's life due to feeling a degree of compassion for her even if it is not part of his mission objective.
@@Zurround T2 was the movie that also introduced the idea that "default" Terminators were not capable of learning these things. There's a deleted scene in the movie (Featuring Leslie Hamilton, Linda's identical twin sister) where a physical toggle is switched on Uncle Bob's processor to enable learning in the field. This is contradicted by Carl's emotional growth in Terminator Salvation - but like all right-thinking people I refuse to recognize the existence of anything more than one remove from T2 to be canon. (I.E. Terminator, Terminator 2, Terminator 3, and Terminator: the Sarah Connor Chronicles)
@@bearnaff9387 I saw that scene but I am glad it was deleted because part of the BEAUTY of the story for me was that the NATURE of his programming, to protect rather than kill and the nurturing experiences he had with the boy and his mother made him a better "person" than his predecessor. I kind of feel that the "brain surgery" scene kind of ruined the beauty of that. And Sarah almost killing him when he was vulnerable kind of pissed me off. Yes I know she did not like him at first but give me a break, he had just saved her and her son's life and she knew by then that the T1000 was way more dangerous. Being THAT STUPID even if she made a 51/49 decision not to kill the T800 and even then only because her son angrily told her off. Her doing something that dumb felt forced and out of character for her even factoring into the equation her reasons to hate the T800
SKYNET want build Decepticons to destroy all humans & autobots = Resistance.
The one thing to notice is the Transformers can't deal with a single T2000 let along an army of them. But as you said a lot of lazy writers just doing what they can to get paid are what we have left writing stories now.
I wonder who would in in a confrontation between the Transformers (both main factions) and The Borg from Star Trek.
Their is a Transformers Vs Star Trek Crossover but it’s with the Enterprise crew. Thanks for the comment!
the problem is that skynet doesn't take over a dead optimus prime merging the programs and gaining a foothold. I mean if you watch the movies skynet is always looking to evolve and grow.
Definitely something that should’ve happened, would’ve made it more of a fair fight. Thanks for the comment!
"Soundwave, Skywarp, and Starscream, are all still continuing to have a hard time taking out the Terminator, I just like really having a hard time believing this."
Consider G1.
They all shoot like SW Stormtrooper defunct clones.
And Cybertronian weapons have demonstrated to be mostly...rather weak (depending on the author d'jour).
Meanwhile, T-800 that has athletics programming is able to move twice as fast as a normal human. It's like trying to swat a really nimble fly.
Also, it's very highly durable. That tritanium-tungsten endo-skeleton can really take a beating and dampens some of the energy/kinetic forces.
If it had its plasma rifle weaponry (or one of Cable's guns) it could likely cause some serious damage.
They need to make a movie of this 👍👍👍👌
The late 90's i found a Fan Transformers site it had all 80 of Marvel's Transformers Comics and the Mini wtories . And G2 12 issues then had some of the 86 Movie unused script scenes that later turned up .This part not sure if it was fan art to it had Jazz with armor on in Vehicle mode he looked Rodimus Prime . Prowl as a kid was may favorite Transformer it had a upgraded Prowl but now Vehicle mode. This is how i found the site there is a rumor in one the 86 Movie scripts Soundwave was going melt some how and i looked way back then. Also the site had a Fan made 4 part Mini series domic that hada Decepticon Civil War . The comic started with Blitzwing , Soundwave, his tapes , Dirge ,Ramjet Thrust going inside Unicron 's head . They find a hidden room that had Megatron , Skywarp, Thundercracker with new bodies . Megatron looked like the G2 toy and Thundercracker & Skywarp also ha updated looking bodies . When part 2 started Megatron & Galavatron started to fight and it was season 1 & 2 some season 3 vs Season 3 & 4 comic 2 to the end of 4 was nothing but fighting how the story end Megatron & Galavatron fighting merged in to one robot . The comic said Megatron was Spilt in two and Galavatron was the most violent parts of Megatron . When Megatron & Galavatron where fighting both merged back in to one Robot . Cyclonus Skywarp & Scourge Thundercracker both merged to. The 3 Incesticons where alive in the battle the Sweeps turned in to the 4 Incesticons that got toys never showed up in the show so there was 7 of them now
Great video! I have a hard copy, but it was cool to see the video.
I'd like to see one of the TMNT Ghostbusters crossover
Maybe one day! I want to start doing the TMNT series. Thanks for the comment!
Re: Ravage
Yeah that wouldn't have worked at all.
Mild inconvenience is what would occur for Ravage from a point-blank bullet that couldn't even come out of the muzzle since it was pressed against his upper jaw.
A jaw which, I'll remind, is made out of a steel-alloy that is strong enough to stop Earth-made armour-piercing tank shells and small energy weapons.
Even assuming that that it could cause harm, in the panel where she holds it against Ravage's jaw - the angle at which it is being pressed against it, would cause the bullet to go straight upwards, no where near Ravage's CPU. It would just exit upwards from the jaw and into the air.
Megatron has been terminated.
Terminator sacrifice himself.
SKYNET & Decepticons has been defeat by Autobots & humans = Resistance.
SKYNET kill Autobots
I wonder what the comic book version of studio interferences because that shore happened this time. At least this one didn't mess me up like shattered glass or death of autocracy.
Terminator vs DeadPool... think of the logic and compute errors the terminator would have attempting to kill DeadPool.
Thanks for doing this video. I enjoyed it. I have the same critiques as you but with one extra...
I grew up with Transformers. The toys, the cartoon and the comics, and the G1 Autobots did not have Arcee, Grimlock or the other female Autobot. They all came later. So the change in the roster took me out of the story a little. I would've liked to have seen Ironhide and Jazz instead of the ladies.
It’s not a terminator story if it doesn’t end with the world being fucked anyway
Damn, that’s true lol thanks for the comment
Dark Fate Sarah bad ass? Dark Fate Sarah was weak AF and alcoholic. DARK Fate sucked. Wasn't a terminator movie. No Skynet, No terminators is a story of just time traveling killer robots, not a terminator film.
Dark fate? Never heard of it lol
I'm pretty sure I said that clip was badass, said nothing about the film at all. You can disagree about the scene but that is my opinion. Thanks for the comment.
I wondered about the biologicals... starcraft zerg vs primal zerg vs 40k tyranids vs halo floodect.. what's the most dangerous biological that would come out on top. Zerg have spawing pools and genetic adapting to overcome the dangers of other things.. but eating each other is what all these guys do to grow. So who's at the top of the food chain and able to overcome the worst of the worst?
No, it's not lazy writing. They're intentionally subverting the famous line we all know.
I like how he's driving G1 optimus prime
I saw the coast of Oregon thing and was like huh? Why specifically Oregon in a transformers comic, then I saw the dark horse comics on the covers and then it made sense lol
Yeah the story and ending did seem rushed with some moments that don’t really make sense, but it was a fun and interesting crossover and the art is great i enjoyed it plus the cover art for this comic is sick
All this is missing is Robocop/Alien/Predator in the mix.
Cybertronians superior skynet inferiors
To me, Skynet wouldn't last against the transformers. But I guess it's epic nonetheless. But I'm going to say, that T-800 is a complete arse for destroying the Ark.
That’s very true and I know right! Thanks for the comment!
SkyNet is getting its ass handed to it by its Granddaddy.....😂😂😂
The context of "come with me if you want to live" here isn't lazy writing, it's satirical. You have a terminator, smiling, giving the line of the hero in the movies, but in this context, to Sarah, he is the hero but more so he is the villain. So, to me, it's funny that he is saying the line, while smiling, because he is saving her from death, by his hands lol. Maybe I'm putting too much thought into but it seemed pretty clever to me.
Would anyone want to see a official transformers and gundam crossover comic or manga?
Megatron looks like he's made out of bionicle
I can definitely see that lol thanks for the comment
Yeah it seems like the writer was given a bingo card of fan service plot points that somehow had to be joined into a story.
skynet helping humans well thats i cant digest it bruh