ETF Battles: TQQQ vs. FNGU - Which High-Octane 3x Technology ETF Wins?

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  • Опубліковано 15 лис 2024

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  • @ivanrojas7218
    @ivanrojas7218 3 роки тому +22

    Loading the boat on TQQQ on 30% market dip can really set you up.

  • @josephiroth89
    @josephiroth89 2 роки тому +3

    This is not financial advice. Only a thought experiment.
    Step 1. Sell cash-secured put on TQQQ two months out at a strike where if you did it 6 times a year, you'd make right around 20% annual return just from premium.
    If put expires worthless, repeat step 1.
    If put gets exercised, proceed to step 2.
    Step 2. Sell covered call against TQQQ two months out at double the strike price of the put in step 1.
    If call expires worthless, repeat step 2.
    If call gets exercised, go back to step 1.
    Invest all gains into shares of TQQQ or really anything else that's less crazy.

  • @alphabeta8403
    @alphabeta8403 3 роки тому +8

    G O A L S:
    A) Hold at least 100 shares of TQQQ, preferably 500 shares or more
    B) When it dips 5-10%, sell a put
    C) When it advances 15-20%, sell a call
    D) When it falls 20%+, buy additional shares and sell a put
    E) Light up that cigar periodically

  • @j-money1354
    @j-money1354 2 роки тому +6

    I would like to see an update with QLD and other leverage ETFs. This was highly entertaining. .Great show.💯✌

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  2 роки тому +2

      Noted! Thanks J-Money for watching #ETFBattles. Season 3 (2022) is just getting started. Be sure to subscribe! Take care, Ron

  • @etfguide
    @etfguide  4 роки тому

    What head-to-head ETF battles would you like to see? Post your ETF ticker symbols right here in the comment section or on Twitter @ETFguide #ETFBattles

  • @TheJuliaMarley
    @TheJuliaMarley 3 роки тому +4

    David Kreinces is going to be the biggest name in portfolio management. Watch out, world!

  • @h.m.1212
    @h.m.1212 4 роки тому +10

    How about UPRO?
    TQQQ vs. UPRO vs. FNGU ?

  • @rastael2
    @rastael2 4 роки тому +8

    Nice format and makes things clear thank you guys!

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  4 роки тому +2

      A big thanks, you're making us blush! Don't be a stranger and send us whatever ETF Battle requests you'd like to see.

  • @renzoriga6136
    @renzoriga6136 3 роки тому +2

    Dave Kreinces is my new hero.....awesome UA-cam channel...very upset I didn’t find this channel earlier!

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  3 роки тому

      Renzo: At least you found us before 2021, no? So in that sense you were early. Glad to have you with us! 8-) #ETFBattles

  • @alexisgc19
    @alexisgc19 4 роки тому +12

    I bought TQQQ, already fastened my seat belts

  • @KetanSingh
    @KetanSingh Рік тому +2

    I quant trade tqqq and tecl. Any ideas how I can raise more capital for trading, given that the strategy seems to be working well?

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  Рік тому

      Ideas for raising more capital: 1) Borrow money, 2) Earn more money. Best, Ron P.S. Congrats on what seems to be successful trades.

  • @BTCETHBNBLTC
    @BTCETHBNBLTC 3 роки тому +6

    Been watching TQQQ since it was 80 thinking... Nah...that being said... I'll wait for a sharp correction

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  3 роки тому +3

      Not a bad strategy. PAY-tience!

  • @madras61
    @madras61 Рік тому +1

    Please compare YINN vs. CWEB.

  • @Jason92881
    @Jason92881 3 роки тому +8

    These Investment products are great if you hold for the long term without margin only cash. And yes if the nasdaq drops by 30% that’s a calculated 90% loss but the loss is only temporary as the markets always come back to equilibrium. So if your a short term investor products like these are dangerous if your long term 10 years plus you’ll be fine 💎

    • @asspoo5540
      @asspoo5540 3 роки тому

      No bro a 3x leverage etf will not rebound it will get dissolved. Granted we'd have to have a bigger recession than 2008 but it's something to keep in mind

    • @Jason92881
      @Jason92881 3 роки тому +2

      @@asspoo5540 Yes precisely. The fund would have to no longer exist for that to happen. However the likelihood of such a event is unlikely. Invest accordingly and don’t add leverage on top of leverage if your thinking long term.

    • @adrian3373
      @adrian3373 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@asspoo5540 unlikely as they rebalance daily and on top of that you have the so called circuit breaker will stop trading if the market drops more than x%

  • @chikischakas
    @chikischakas 2 роки тому +2

    i invest all my porfolio at 21.67 average of TQQQ i know its risky but its pretty much from the lows of jun

  • @rigo.garcia
    @rigo.garcia 4 роки тому +3

    Great information. How about ARKG vs something? Is it a wise investment or just get the ARKK.

    • @helldoefdewf8959
      @helldoefdewf8959 3 роки тому +1

      Arkg is more speculative for things happening in the future arkk is happening right now and for the future

    • @helldoefdewf8959
      @helldoefdewf8959 3 роки тому

      Also arkk is a combanation of all her etfs

  • @moocow1080
    @moocow1080 4 роки тому +8

    yo this is sick, could u do soxl vs tecl?

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  4 роки тому +4

      Yo, thanks for the sick #ETFBattles request. It's in the mix. Stay tuned.

  • @marshallmason1
    @marshallmason1 Місяць тому +1

    TQQQ is not a tech ETF. It has companies like Costco, Pepsi, Starbucks, and Marriott. It is over-diversified. Technology stocks are more efficient investments in terms of performance vs. risk. This is why FNGU has a 1.76 Sortino ratio vs. TQQQ's 1.39. If you want to dilute the risk, best way to do that is not to leverage non-tech stocks like Costco, but to pad it with non-leveraged non-tech stocks, rebalancing to capture all that lovely volatility. e.g. 80% FNGU / 20% XLU would have a similar risk profile as TQQQ but deliver significantly greater returns.

  • @jonathanschwartz5265
    @jonathanschwartz5265 4 роки тому +4

    David Kreinces knows his stuff, and his returns are outstanding. Careful mgmt of geared products is clearly the way to go.

  • @uc4716
    @uc4716 2 роки тому +1

    I prefer FNGU, it seems a good time to buy :)

  • @airahcaz
    @airahcaz 3 роки тому +1

    Thoughts on QLD instead?

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  3 роки тому +3

      If you'd like to see QLD in an ETF Battle, please give us the other competing ETF ticker it goes up against. Thank you! Ron

    • @airahcaz
      @airahcaz 3 роки тому +2

      @@etfguide QLD vs TQQQ and QLD vs SSO

  • @DoomLegion83
    @DoomLegion83 3 роки тому +1

    Can you compare HAN ETF Megatrens Global Equal Weight against EQQQ and ARKK ?? Please?

  • @Frederick0220
    @Frederick0220 3 роки тому +1

    FNGU or TECL?

  • @AfaanOromostock-
    @AfaanOromostock- 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing 👏🙀 shows.. do etf show every week. Maybe stocks weekly annualized which one is going to jump

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  3 роки тому +1

      Semi: FYI, #ETFBattles is already a weekly show and we're currently in Season II. Here's the full playlist and don't forget to subscribe! Take care, Ron ua-cam.com/play/PL2nQqIxm8RGDoEQwGPY3vYk8KDoaWXrkR.html

  • @jeevanpanda8177
    @jeevanpanda8177 4 роки тому +3

    Nice comparison, thanks 👏

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  4 роки тому

      Thanks for watching!

  • @uc4716
    @uc4716 Рік тому +1

    I invested my 90% portfolio at about 100 average of FNGU 10 months ago. The lowest price was at 36 this year, but I still had strong confidence to hold my FNGU. Now I got a positive return on this investment. I probably will hold FNGU until the end of 2024. I think it's a good time to invest in FNGU right now. My goal for FNGU is 500, maybe 1,000 :)
    If TQQQ is Michael Jordan; I say FNGU is Shohei Ohtani :)

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  Рік тому +1

      One big strike against FNGU is that it's an ETN, which heightens the risk of the product if the bank or issuer declares bankruptcy or faces a liquidity crisis. Keep that in mind UC. And BTW, I really liked your Michael Jordan/Shohei Otani comparison. See you soon and don't forget to subscribe! Best, Ron

    • @uc4716
      @uc4716 Рік тому +1

      @@etfguide I realized it. Thank you for your information. I appreciate. Looking forward to your show! Best, UC : )

  • @donhosbf
    @donhosbf 3 роки тому +2

    I did a 15k tester on TQQQ. my plan was to leave it for a year and see how it does.
    4 months later and 35% up. I wish I threw real money at it.
    Would you wait for a dip to really buy in. Or just buy. It seems to be an an all time high. and I hate to buy that high.
    But also feel I am missing out on the steady gains.

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  3 роки тому +1

      We can't provide investment advice. But if you want a complete analysis on your entire portfolio ping me at PortfolioReportCard.com Thanks, Ron

    • @donhosbf
      @donhosbf 3 роки тому +1

      @@etfguidenot asking for official FA. just general opinion on it. If a long hold. does it really matter when you buy in? or does "buy the dip" still matter?

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  3 роки тому +2

      @@donhosbfTQQQ and other 3x bull equity ETFs similar to it generally perform very well during strong uptrending markets. Buying at the wrong time or when the market reverses or is trending down will lead to losses - FAST. Even if a trader or investor has a long-term view, the losses can be quite severe, depending on the magnitude of the correction. That's why many traders keep their 2x and 3x ETFs on a short leash, quickly unloading them if they suffer x % in losses. Nobody can tell you whether you should sell after a 10% decline or some other number...you must determine this for yourself ahead of time. Hope this helps and be sure to subscribe to ETFguide TV, we talk a lot about these types of funds. Best, Ron

    • @dcreech500
      @dcreech500 2 роки тому +1

      Save up and buy the dips. Tqqq hits the 100 day moving avg and shoots back up 25-30%. About three times a year. Look at the year chart , 1 day interval. Buy when hits or drops below 100 day moving average. Backtest and take a look.

    • @donhosbf
      @donhosbf 2 роки тому

      @@dcreech500 i did. Last Dip I threw another 100k at it. Besides this Bloody Dec. Its was ripping. I planned to dump and rebuy next dip on Jan 3rd. I couldn't afford anymore CapGains this year. But this Dec bloodbath delayed my plans slightly. Its a great investment. Just have to dump when it reached these fast highs. And wait to rebuy. I think a Long Hold will still work. But can make more dumping and rebuying??🤔

  • @Person-zt5nq
    @Person-zt5nq 4 роки тому +5

    "TQQQ, as is the case with any leveraged ETF, is an instrument best used over intraday time frames, not as a buy-and-hold investment." ... "Investors should monitor their holdings as frequently as daily".

    • @nodemocrat
      @nodemocrat 4 роки тому +3

      Person if you’re not willing to monitor daily, stay away from these ETFs

    • @unviaje3080
      @unviaje3080 3 роки тому +3

      ​@@nodemocrat @person but if you hadn't monitor it daily (just buy and hold) and had bought it in 4/23/2012 your growth would be %3.210,98 // I'm not saying
      that it's going to be up the next 10 years... but I don't understand the fear with this instrument... if you're going to buy it short term... that would give me anxiety because the level of volatility SHORT TERM its huge... But in the long term, TQQQ in has shown that it would outperform the market consistently... A deposit in 2012 of 10k would be now 331k

    • @nodemocrat
      @nodemocrat 3 роки тому +5

      I suppose that’s a fair response. I made $75k between May and the end of August in TQQQ, only to watch that gain disappear entirely by the end of September. I’m now back $77k in gains. My thought is that if the precipitous falls like we had in September reoccur, I would’ve been better off to sell earlier in the month and then buy back in when the market began showing signs of improvement such as was clearly visible in the early weeks of October. Instead of a capital gain of $77k, I might be sitting on 50% more. Your theory of long term investing in it is something no one can argue with; however, you can time the market in some situations. If I had a significant position in it back in March, I would’ve sold immediately to stop the hemorrhaging of losses. Perhaps it’s most prudent to hold a long term position subject to seeing signs of a market downturn- then quickly sell. When you see a pattern of several 4% or more days of losses, it’s time to sell.

    • @unviaje3080
      @unviaje3080 3 роки тому

      @@nodemocrat 77K ? WOU... That's something... I'm from Chile and i'm starting with 2k with positions in QQQ VT SMH (in a mutual fund of ETFs)... Here we don't have brokers that would give you an account at 2k. The mininum its 10k or 20k. Specially if you want to buy more "rare" products like TQQQ. Thanks for sharing your perspective my friend. I agree. It's about understanding the market. Knowing the sentiments. Buy the dip... Thank you again.

    • @nodemocrat
      @nodemocrat 3 роки тому +2

      @@unviaje3080 That’s troubling to hear that you need that much money to buy into this equity-a true disincentive to investing. I too am in QQQ, but it’s performance is not nearly as good as TQQQ-obviously.

  • @j-money1354
    @j-money1354 2 роки тому +2

    This show is amazing 💯✌

  • @Mshukrimahadi
    @Mshukrimahadi 3 роки тому +1

    is it possible for leveraged ETF to lose all of its value (wiped out) due to the leverage?

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  3 роки тому +3

      Anything is possible. But since inception 3x leveraged products like TQQQ, TECL and FNGU have survived the storm of severe drops. And in really bad markets where they lose most of their value, they'll typically do a reverse share split vs. retiring to the Bahamas by de-listing the product. Take care, Ron #ETFBattles

    • @Mshukrimahadi
      @Mshukrimahadi 3 роки тому +1

      @@etfguide haha.. thanks Ron

  • @MTXSHO9732vV8SHO
    @MTXSHO9732vV8SHO 3 роки тому +1

    Good basketball analogies in the game, any player without a well rounded set of skills will have limited efficiency. Although avoiding that is the whole point of ETFs which would explain do many ties

  • @demoix
    @demoix Рік тому +1

    Please capture NRGU versus a similar product in its sector (leveraged energy) in next battle. However, speaking FNGU vs. TQQQ, personally FNGU simply is much better if you can handle risk management.

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  Рік тому +1

      FYI, FNGU is an "ETN" which means it has credit risk if the issuer (BMO) defaults on its debt. Also, the 2023 bank crisis has heightened the risk of future ETN blowups. This is the reason I favor ETFs over ETNs. Best, Ron

  • @reymore1060
    @reymore1060 3 роки тому +2

    IYE vs ARKQ. XLY vs UGE

  • @hasanz5259
    @hasanz5259 4 роки тому +4

    TQQQ > FNGU > ARKW > SOXL > SPXL

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  4 роки тому +1

      FYI, we just did a SOXL vs. TECL matchup. Check it out! #ETFBattles ua-cam.com/video/swBA2pnqRTs/v-deo.html

    • @Frederick0220
      @Frederick0220 3 роки тому

      FNGU has had epic returns over the last year but my fear of it is that as an ETN, there’s a risk of it delisting. Several ETNs have delisted just this year and I think once it delists, it’s no guarantee you’ll be able to sell it. Is this accurate Ron and what are the odds of an ETN delisting?

  • @m.morininvestor9920
    @m.morininvestor9920 4 роки тому +2

    ''Experts only...'' ok I'll wait a little more 😅

  • @jesusavelar7540
    @jesusavelar7540 Рік тому

    Where to put the stop loss on fngu?

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  Рік тому

      At a level that’s suitable to your risk controls. The right number is highly personal

  • @prashants17
    @prashants17 5 місяців тому +1

    Over the last 5ys as of June 2024 FNGU has appreciated 4X more than TQQQ

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  5 місяців тому

      Good point. But as you probably know, FNGU is more concentrated and risky, thus the higher return. On the downside, it's also likely to perform worse vs. a broader index linked ETF. Thanks for watching ETF Battles!

  • @glorydays1565
    @glorydays1565 3 роки тому +3

    Enjoyable video to watch. Could have said more about structural differences and accompanying risks of ETNs compared to ETFs though. In this sense it is not even an ETF battle but a ETF vs ETN battle.
    Past performances are of course no guarantee for future returns. The American Dream ETF thus might become an American Nightmare ETF during the next 10 years (actually the performance of the last 10 years makes this scenario even more likely).
    Ever wondered why all these 3x leveraged ETFs where incepted later than 2009? Because typically they are wiped out of existence in a bubble scenario. Backtesting with historical Nasdaq 100 data reveals that an investment in TQQQ on the peak of the Dotcom Bubble (bursting in 2000) would have suffered a -99.95% drawdown and would have recovered to only 16% of initial seed capital as of today (i.e. ~21 years later) despite the unbelievable strong growth during the last decade.
    These kind of products are expert-only territory as mentioned in the video. There is no free lunch with leveraged ETFs and they are certainly not the 'future of investment' for mainstream investors.

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  3 роки тому +1

      Appreciate the thoughtful post Glory Days. The intellect of our audience is rather high and you're proof of that.

    • @glorydays1565
      @glorydays1565 3 роки тому +1

      @@etfguide thanks Ron highly appreciated.
      Just to keep the idea of the American Dream ETF still up:
      Backtesting of Nasdaq 100 data from inception in October 1985 until present day reveals a Buy-and-Hold performance of TQQQ of +90,153%. Thats a multiple of 902.53 on your initial investment and corresponds to an annual performance of +21.26%. Still no life cycle but at least tremendous performance over the past 35.31 years.
      The actual performance trajectory over time is quite a rollercoaster though as one can imagine. I am eagerly waiting how this plot will evolve over the next >50 years. Will be a joy to watch these ups and downs in continuous fashion.

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  3 роки тому

      @@glorydays1565 Good stuff GD. Thank you for doing that incredible back-test. Wow!

    • @glorydays1565
      @glorydays1565 3 роки тому

      @@etfguide it's also interesting to compare FNGU performance to TQQQ not only since the day of inception of FNGU but for the longest available time series the FANG+ Index can be computed retrospectively (Sep 2014):
      Performance difference of FNGU (3x NYSE FANG+ Index) vs. TQQQ (3x NASDAQ100) as of 30 Dec 2020
      1-year period: +294,58% vs. +94,19%
      Since inception of FNGU (Jan 2018): +437,52% vs. 238,85%
      Backtested to Sep 2014: +6863% vs. 1203%
      Concentration would have definitely payed off during this period.

    • @glorydays1565
      @glorydays1565 3 роки тому

      @@timeflies6347 could still drop another -99% or what do you mean exactly?

  • @HamondEggs
    @HamondEggs 3 роки тому +1

    Please do tqqq vs bulz

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  3 роки тому +2

      Looks like a good matchup. Thank you HammondEggs! Best, Ron

  • @Josue-411
    @Josue-411 3 роки тому

    With 3X leveraged ETFs, like TQQQ, do you usually buy and sell everyday or do you hold for longer periods?

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  3 роки тому +4

      Hi Josue, there is no definitive answer to your question because it depends on the variable goals of each individual. Although leveraged ETFs aren't designed to be bought and held over the long-term, those who have done it over the past 5-10 years have done very well.
      Here's my suggestion: Focus on your goals and what you're trying to accomplish vs. relying on what others do with their investments. That's my advice to you. May profitable results find you. Ron

  • @kyle7574
    @kyle7574 4 роки тому +1

    What happens if you hold tqqq long term

    • @cantu7614
      @cantu7614 4 роки тому +7

      Go to Google type tqqq hit the investment tab and see a 10 year period

    • @rubenl.4275
      @rubenl.4275 4 роки тому +14

      You get rich

    • @JusdoinstuF
      @JusdoinstuF 3 роки тому

      @@rubenl.4275 lmao

    • @gurmeetgill6752
      @gurmeetgill6752 2 роки тому

      Not really....look at it today!!!

  • @hanah4487
    @hanah4487 4 роки тому +2

    I love them

  • @rayyu5620
    @rayyu5620 3 роки тому +1

    QQQ Vs QQQM, QQQJ Vs ARKK,

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  3 роки тому

      Ray: That's a lot of Q's. Got it. #ETFBattles

  • @Paid2Live17
    @Paid2Live17 4 роки тому +1

    He said "that's good sauce" hahahaha

  • @LuckWhatChairRa
    @LuckWhatChairRa 2 роки тому +2

    i have TQQQ for 5 years now and when TSLA split, my tqqq shares doubled in numbers. I hope it will happen again when AMZN and TSLA splits again.

    • @montyi8
      @montyi8 2 роки тому

      Tqqq has crashed now and pending to go down further. How do you feel?

  • @EllisAidan
    @EllisAidan 3 роки тому +1

    Sorry but worrying about the cost in these ETFs is stepping over pounds to pick up pennies

  • @mattz1559
    @mattz1559 3 роки тому

    As of right now FNGU beats TQQQ at the price in my opinion

  • @tommay7735
    @tommay7735 3 роки тому

    URTY VS TQQQ

  • @dominicanoloko
    @dominicanoloko 4 роки тому +1

    How are people so against these funds? If seems like if you invest in this fund for the long term you'll be rich!! Correct me of I'm wrong someone...

    • @etfguide
      @etfguide  4 роки тому +6

      ...not everyone wants to be rich?! The numbers presented are correct. But as pointed out, leverage in a down market loses you money FAST. It's also more volatility than most people can stomach, that's why almost nobody buys and holds leveraged ETFs through a full market cycle. But the results of long-term investing, even with short-term oriented leveraged ETFs is impressive nonetheless. Our job is to present the facts, the pros and cons...and let you vote with your money. It's our utmost desire that all of our viewers enjoy a profitable outcome.

    • @dominicanoloko
      @dominicanoloko 4 роки тому +2

      @@etfguide thank you so much for the clarification. Losing 90% of the value of the stock can be stomach turning though

    • @Frederick0220
      @Frederick0220 3 роки тому

      @@dominicanoloko I believe it dropped 80% at the beginning of the COVID lockdown but even that’s anomalous and it has more than recovered since then

    • @dominicanoloko
      @dominicanoloko 3 роки тому +1

      @@Frederick0220 exactly sir. When it drops it freaking DROPS!! but it always recovers...since watching this video I've gotten into SOXL and FNGU and I've made 54% in a few months which is unheard of...let's see how the rest of the ride goes...

    • @Frederick0220
      @Frederick0220 3 роки тому +1

      @@dominicanoloko That’s awesome, m’dude. If you hold on to these bad boys, you’re gonna make an absolute killing. I recently invested in Bitcoin and I’m gonna invest in TQQQ, TECL, and a couple of the ARKs over the next few months. 54% over a few months really is epic. That’s 3 years for the S&P500!!!

  • @chrissteiner1986
    @chrissteiner1986 3 роки тому

    Large returns on Ragu